This is the OOC thread for stuff that does not pertain to this particular game, be it D&D stuff, funny cat pictures, or stories about cats playing D&D.

I made this just to make sure that the other OOC thread stayed game-related. I don't mind talking about non-game stuff here, hell, I do it more often than any of you, it's just that having a second thread satisfies my OCD.

Sadly, this means that the post count in our main OOC thread won't balloon nearly as quickly.

I like balloons. :)

DAI, wake up you asshole. There's people waiting on you.

I'm gonna go pass out. I have stayed awake like three hours too long and I have business calls in the A.M.

Shit.

RYLD is going to be like, way more bad ass than JACK. Totally. I can feel it.

Now hurry up and take your god damn turns so you can go and find his sorry ass.

Shit.

JACK/SILI/Mogki and myself stayed awake far too late last night being nerds, and then I stayed awake a few hours after that.

Just woke up, and now I'm hoping in the shower before some evening plans. I updated the game slightly more, I hate RAIF's character, and I'll finish the post as soon as I get a free minute at home.

I'm going to go pass out for a while. See you guys on the flip side.

Going to be slammed for work today, again, mostly because I'm a horrible employee.

I have also not slept yet since yesterday afternoon, so when I pass out it will be for a while.

Just letting you kids know.

So... tired...

Vil, quit your god damn job so you can update the game(s) more often.

With this post, I am the only person I can see talking in here when I open this threat.

I am a sad, sad man :(


Oh wait! Maybe it's because Shiro isn't in here posting his idiocy-ridden crap every day!

I am a happy, happy sad man :|

It's a bit tough to get used to. Besides, all you use it for is excuses why you're not going to be on anymore.

I let you guys know when I can't be active as a courtesy, fucker.

I'm still on at least every day, if not several, several times during that day like usual.

What game is that?

Soul Calibur V, honestly it's 90% for the character creation system, but also because I have played and owned each one at one point or another.

Bleh. No interest in that. The good news is that you can pause it so you can RPOL MORE.

Well duh, though I am not sure how that wouldn't be true for any video games nowadays(barring online games)

3 was awesome, 4 was fanservice, I'll probably get 5 sooner or later.

"bears and shit"

That's it. Next encounter. It has to be.

HAHA! Bears are actually some of my easiest targets with their crap touch AC!...

Except now they are monk bears, with 4 arms or something crazy like that >.>

Monk Ghost bears. They get their Charisma modifer to their Deflection AC (which is now +10 for some reason. These were really pretty bears).

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Ah well, at least I can play out my idea to make DAI a tiny sized shadow elemental*

*You know, when you said that Sara's necklace was going to tighten until his head popped off...I am still up for this idea you know, higher dex and tiny size bonuses to attack rolls rock.

Black belt, not monk. The difference is that black belts get to add Con to AC.

This? This makes me cry...

Good point.

Oooh. 400 posts from your game, Tes. :p Catching up like a boss.

When you have idiots like shiro spamming non-stop...

And then there's the part where you have more people.

And then there's the part where you're a dirty damn cheater, fucker.


I think we should measure it by posts in the IC threads. Baha~!

Now, I need to go walk the dog. I was just on a 2 hour-long conference call that sucked balls and I want to stretch my legs and make my puppy happy.

I'll update as soon as I get back!

RL D&D game is in two hours, I have nothing prepared, and I want a nap.

You guys can have your stormy showdown when I get back ;p

I think it's time I took a shower and took a nap.

DAI, you blast goblin #4 back into unconsciousness.

There's a fuck ton of rolling to be done before the next turn, and my eyes are getting heavy.

Woohoo! Re-unconsciousness!

Just learned something neat in another rpol game I'm in. Apparently there are actually language group privelages the GM cancontrol, so instead of writing "Goblin sounds" and PMing it to someone, you can just turn on language goblin for that person, and then write [Language unknown: tedhisrea ndeounlat hicato ilfiev] and only those with goblin on will be able to read it, the rest see gibberish.

EDIT: For instance: I think only I or tes can read it, me because I wrote it, tes because he's GM since none of the language groups are on in this game.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:41, Sat 11 Feb 2012.

Ah, I see, they're under the private groups option. Interesting. That does come in handy.

Languages.

If you don't see a line to you for every language you speak, let me know.

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excluding common
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:49, Sat 11 Feb 2012.

Yeah, I thought it was pretty neat...I had been brought in recently for the game, and looking over old topics that hadn't been archived yet, I noticed all of them saying "Language Unknown: a jkjtr akuk" etc. GM then gave me my language groups and now I could read them plainly(only player that really used it prmarily did so for abyssal, which I knew)

Tonight is a make-up game for my RL D&D group and I have like nothing prepared for them. Shiiiiiiiii...

I also need to take a nap, take a shower, and go to the store at some point... and get something to eat. Oh, and I'm giving one of the guys a ride here before the game.

I'd also like to update this game as often as I can in order to bring Alex/RYLD into the mix.

I have five hours to do all this. Woohoo =/



Anyways, from now on, when you guys update the game and I'm not obviously online, if you'd like to text me it'd speed things up:
(931) 446 4747

K, passing out for an hour and then my RL game'll last until midnight. See you kids again late tonight or tomorrow morning.

"you just happen to be smarter then most"

DAI, if you're going to insult animals and mindless creatures, at least use correct grammar.

I have no idea what you are talking about >.>

"you just happen to be smarter then most"
"you just happen to be smarter than most"

I think you're making it up.

Did you delete my last in-game post?

+2 initiative, everybody

Gonna go nap before I go out drinking.

Have fun slowly destroying your liver :D

Not that I can complain, my brother is making his own homebrew...coming together rather nicely.

Hey Rules Lawyer, question for you...both by RAW and general opinion:

If I had an animated flask/bottle filled with a potion, could I order it(vocally, free action) to on its next round pour the potion into my mouth? It would have a climb speed so holding onto my face in the middle of combat isn't an issue.

EDIT: Way I see it is you're either paying X000gp for a refillable potion speed-drinker, or spending a 6th level spell for a single potion to go faster...either way it doesn't seem that unbalancing, but that isn't always the deciding factor.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:40, Tue 14 Feb 2012.

The only way that any creature, object, or whatever else could possibly cause you to drink a potion when it is not your turn is if you are unconscious.

You, your character/creature/etc, must spend the Standard action to drink a potion that you have at the ready.

So if I am understanding you correctly, no, your idea will not work out of the gate by virtue of breaking this rule before you even get to the point of considering whether or not an animated object of the right shape could be told to do such a thing.

Hmm, but I could have one tasked with pouring a potion down my unconscious throat? Or to at least climb up so I only have to spend the standard action and not fish it out of my pack?

If you specifically animate an object to stay latched on to the side of your head and feed you a potion when you're ready to drink it, just buy a fucking potion bladder for like 50 gold out of Drow of the Underdark and get the exact same result without any of the fuss.

Could you also task it to automatically apply the potion to you when you fall unconscious? After all of that effort, I'd say yeah, you probably could.

Would having this thing attached to the side of your face and climbing around cause some sort of undesirable consequence, such as an armor check penalty, penalty to spot/listen, or taking up your actual face equipment slot? Maybe, though that is up to the DM.

Well in those instances it would be more of a "when I fall unconscious climb out of my belt pouch and feed me a potion while other people are fighting, hopefully not CDGing me" sort of thing, it wouldn't be latched onto my face the whole time in that instance.

Potion bladder though...dunno what that is but it sounds weird, and weird fits the character.

It's a slotless piece of equipment that has a waterskin jimmy-rigged to a straw that sits in your mouth. You can drink a potion as a Standard action that's stored in the bladder without provoking AoO. It costs less than 100 gold I'm pretty sure.

Pretty sweet. Those crafty drow are crafty.

Slotless, as in I can have 10(half kidding)?

I figured it was something you like, implanted inside of you to drink a potion as a swift action but takes like X minutes to refill through some special pressure pump kit or wahtever, that might be a liiitle complex for DnD tech though.

It's getting to be close to my bedtime, kids. We made some good progress today. After this fight there's really nothing scheduled or probable (assuming that you don't fight this guy 20 more times) between you getting to the halfling encampment and now.

Damn it...and now I can never unsee it...

Damn it... I am going to play through Mass Effect 1 & 2 as well as finish The Witcher in the coming couple of weeks...

Hmm...makes me wanna pick up the witcher again, I started it a while ago but got kind of stuck in the swampy area after the first big city..admittedly I just got thrashed by some monsters and set it down for a while, then that while became a few months >.>

Yeah, losing momentum in an RPG of any decent size pretty much kills it for me most of the time. That's why I've gotta finish Witcher now. If I go through ME 1, 2, and 3, there's no way I'll ever come back to it and remember everything.

playing mass effect 3 multiplayer right now

It's... multiplayer?

Yes. And surprisingly fun.

Yay, ZEIG is back for a bit. Do you know abouts how long?

No more army. Minimum 6 months grace but I don't think I could do it if I went back. Damn gout.

I should be around for a long time this time.

Huzzah! Viladin also sounded happy that you were back when I talked to him earlier. We joked about you coming back as Karel the Skald, hardened from his...days...of adventuring on his own(and that he likely got the highest form of fortification possible).

Ha, maybe. I probably won't be able to catch up on the main thread tonight. The friend that was supposed to.pick me up from the airport is in the hospital with appendicitis so I'm gonna visit her after I get back in.

My sympathies. I almost died of appendicitis when I was about 7.

She's doing alright. We ended up talking about a campaign we've been cowriting for a few months cause I did a ton of work son it while sitting on the sidelines waiting to be discharged from the army.

Did they at least pay you for all that time of theirs you wasted?

And is this going to be a real-life campaign or are you going to do it on play-by-post?

K. Good.

We'll get crackin' when I get done with work today. Good to have you back, ZEIG.

Right now it's team magic. This should be hilariously... awful. At least you'll learn Life soon.

Yup, I got paid for all that time.  And they could have paid me for 2 months less, they're just slow as hell.

Campaign is probably going to be play-by-post since I don't know anyone around here that I'd want to play DnD with.  It still has a lot of work to go through though.  Even after I finish it I need to play test some home brew monsters and see if they're lol or not.

Well I can't speak for everyone, but I have a slowly increasing boredom and what is essentially no life. That being said I'd be willing to take part in it, I can fill most roles but I've never been a fan of prepared casters...unless I am crafting the bajeezus out of stuff.

I'm only interested in playing if everything dragonlance, eberron, and forgotten realms is completely off of the table. It's a bunch of poorly-designed drivel.

And I'm not suggesting you adopt anything here, but it contains the list of sources I'm talking about if you scroll down to the "Sources:" section.
http://meinkraft.servebeer.com...ic.php?f=17&t=36
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:54, Thu 23 Feb 2012.

Gonna go get some dinner and buy some booze for later tonight. Going to give you guys a chance to post up and figure out all the inventory concerns.

Looking forward to hitting this game hard again now that ZEIG is back. I always hate playing someone's character for them. Sorry the army was a waste of time, sir, but it's good to have you back here with us loser nerds that aren't going anywhere in life!

That's a good list of stuff, I agree with a lot of it.

For me, I haven't read a ton of books, so I was going to ask for approval of anything non core.  I'd really like to stick mostly to core for base classes, but if people wanted to do other things and ran it by me first, I'd probably agree to it if it wasn't ridiculous.

It'll be a while before I get it up and running anyways.  I have lots of work to do on it and I would need to draw up all of the information necessary for people to know before they genned characters.  I.E. acceptable races, how races are different in this setting, the pantheon, different class restrictions (namely alignment), etc.

I'm reading through the main thread now, will post when I can.

So I was looking at another discussion some of my nerd friends are having, and one guy just relayed the story of his level 5 expert sumo wrestler. His way of solving the caloric intake was amusing.

He wore two rings of sustenance and had three sets everlasting rations, then ate everything he could find. He finally died after he started taking INT and CON damage from diabetes.

Sounds like he needed to take a couple levels of Paladin to fix that problem.

Yeesh...sounds pretty bad >.> He should have just looked up an actual sumo's diet and gone with that, the dual rings of sustenance was a funny idea though...

There's a build out there, primarily for Half-Giant Psychic Warriors, that relies on getting as big and heavy as you can and jumping on enemies. It does fairly impressive damage at 1st level, I've heard.

Guess who was in jail last night. Egh.

Oh shit. Are you on the lamb?

I will NOT hide you from the Law. :p

Phew. Ok. This past weekend was pretty awful.

Let's get back to it. Sorry for the lull.

Since Grim can't take adventuring, maybe we can inspire him to make a career change to furniture mover?

Two humans with 8 strength are like two halflings with 10 strength, haha.

Also, you know, you could just pay some young guys like 1 gold a piece to do it. That's more money than they'll ever make in a month.

yeah, but then he'd give them the haversack.

Soooo...you're going to have to cough up that jail story.

BTW, google wave being read only now is hilarious. I was in BCT for effectively 5 months and I'm rereading some of the original content from back in June/July and comparing it to how things have evolved now. It's pretty interesting.

BCT?

Probably Basic Combat Training. Possibly Battle Combat Tactics. Probably not Bacon Combat Tomato.

I'm gonna go with Basic Combat Training, although Bacon Combat Tomato sounds delicious.

So, assuming we all get back on track and get to posting like we used to, we'll need to begin looking for another person.

If any of you have any ideas or whatever else, let me know.

The DM of SILI and I's skype game expressed interest, but I think he might slowly grow to hate me so I don't know if that'll pan out >_>

Hmm, I have a question and it isn't a 'loophole' sort of question, but more asking if this was actually an oversight.

Innate Spell from Complete Arcane, requires Silent, Still, and Quicken Spell. Lets you cast a spell at-will once per round as a spell-like ability, but you permanently lose a spell slot 8 levels higher.

The thing is...it doesn't have 8th level spells as a preprequisite so...what happens if you take it when you can only cast 5th level spells? Would it have no use unless you managed to get a -3th level spell to take it for?

I hate you so much sometimes. It's clear from the text. So damn clear.

1:
One spell slot eight levels higher than the innate spell is permanently used to power it.
2:
As well, spellcasters who become unable to cast spells of the level of the spell slot used to power the innate spell become unable to use the spell-like ability.

So if you chose a second level spell as a spell-like ability and then permanently gave up a 9th level spell slot... that you don't even fucking have... you can never cast your spell like ability, and the feat is wasted until you can.

The requirement of a higher level spell slot isn't explicitly present, no, and as such, personally, I might allow a player to take it a little earlier before they can use it just so they don't have to wait to use their 18th level feat on it.

I actually missed the part about losing that spell slot meaning you lose the ability, but otherwise I am in agreeance with the idea of taking it early even though you couldn't use it. Just like how I would have no issues with a 1st level caster taking Quicken Spell if they really wanted to.

You can, RAW, take Quicken Spell at any level, even if you can't utilize it, just like Innate Spell.

Theoretically, though, you have to be a 7th level full-progression caster before you can actually use Quicken Spell unless you use some sort of bullshit means from a bullshit source or have taken Arcane Thesis for a cantrip at 6th level.
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:45, Thu 01 Mar 2012.

Hey tes? You often note how magical arms and armor resize to their new holder 99% of the time, do you happen to know where that could be cited from? I've been looking over the DMG in the magic item section and can't find it, and I need to prove it for the GM of a game I'm in.

It's a game that has been primarly land-based, but involves helping out the Aventi(stormwrack), so water travel and combat is expected...that being said my druid is likely going to be swapping animal companions every once in a while, and I wanna buy some armor for them, but without proof of the resizing/shaping, my riding dog's armor wouldn't really work if I needed a shark.

You're fucked in that situation.

Magical gear only resizes to fit the wearer between humanoids and things very damn close to them. So a magical crown meant for a medium half-elf would fit a small gnome just fine. A magical ring made for a large giant would fit a medium dwarf just fine. That kind of thing.

Going between such varied species is simply out of the question. Armor is another point of elaboration as well, which fucks you even harder. You definitely can't take an armor made for some drastically non-humanoid species and then slap it on some other one with no strings attached.

Moreover, you're not even close to breaching the armor proficiency discussion that comes with animal companions and barding.

Oh no, I spent the feat for my dog to learn how to wear light armor.

So no changing armor? Well then I'll get the next best thing: A greater crystal of water adaption allowing my dog to swim and breathe water, so I won't need to change around companions as much.

Just to be clear though: The armor would be able to resize/fit pretty much any canines, barring ones with extra appendages like a Cerberus for example, right?

Ok, why would you spend a feat to teach your dog how to wear light armor? Mwk studded leather has no ACP, and therefore no penalty at all, and mithral chain shirts are in the same boat as well. Really, the only way you need to worry about proficiency on animal companions is if you're going to put them in plate mail. A brown bear in full plate is a thing to behold.

Some DMs will let you get by with teaching your pets to wear armor as tricks. I am one of those DMs. I suggest you ask for that in the future if you can.

And yeah, your armor you bought for your dog would fit any creature that has the same proportions and is roughly the same size. A wolf, riding dog, probably a blink dog--along those lines. If you got too far away, say, a Feral Yowler from MM3, then it's up to DM discretion.

I know we're all excited with the other game(s?), but come on kids. Post what you're doing.

SO yeah, for reasons that escape me, IE has fucked up on rpol where I can no longer highlight stuff to change color(though I could always do it manually I guess), or to copy-paste(only on rpol...works on other sites for some reason), and I can't even use the cursor to select a specific part of the text to jump to, gotta maneuver by using the arrow keys >.>

Posting from firefox now, as might be obvious since my post in ZEIG's game was...well correct, but this all started happening in the time I was asleep, so I have no idea what's going on >.>

Reason I use IE: Because until now, it has always worked for me....and firefox is notably slower on my computer.

Bad news:

Intoxicated. This game's gonna be on hold most of the night.

Aaaaand I got sucked back into minecraft.

Currently making the Rime Mountains, starting with the dungeon you guys just went through (complete with torches, yay minecraft!).

Internet's spotty right now.

Move the game(s) along, assholes!

Hey I'm waiting on SILI here, I already posted my inended action and...unless he spotaneously learned a song of Shout I don't think his action is gonna change mine >.>

Just to note: I said 30ft, but make it the maximum distance that I can still PBS them...not sure where they all are really.

You can tell where they all are by seeing which characters have the "Swarmed" status. From there, you know that any surrounding squares with the ',' character also contain the swarm.

I was getting ready to complain (again) about you guys not posting, but then I realized it was 4am.

What the fuck time did I wake up? Jesus. Must have been around 4:30/5pm. Whoops.

The april fool's jokes are pretty decent this year.

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And I meant off of RPoL. This color scheme is fucking destroying me. I hate it quite a bit.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:44, Sun 01 Apr 2012.

Seriously. It's a nice idea, but I was tired of it by 10:00AM. I'm ready for my dark blue to be back.

Mine is naturally dark green anyway. The yellow's kinda wierd.

Gotta go help a guy move his washer/dryer. Be back in 10-120 minutes.

I, um, woke up next to something not as pretty as I remember it in another state of mind. Game's paused for a bit.

... did he post that while she was watching?

No, I did not, though she was in the room at the time. She is now gone.

She wasn't awful, but definitely not good. AFK showering away shame.

Today is going to be a shitty day for work. I'll try and check ZEIG's game, but I doubt this one gets updated at all.

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Got a moment to update the game on my laptop while taking a break to the little boys' room. Yay.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:54, Thu 12 Apr 2012.

Ok, have to get back to work. I spent way too much time on this, heh. Like before, I'll still check the other game.

Today is going to be another extremely busy day, and then I might do some fun stuff for Friday night.

I don't know yet. And knowing me, just like half of the time I say this, I'll still update the game anyway. Just trying to be polite and let you kids know (and this goes for your game, too, ZEIG).

Hey tes, I know you can deliver touch spells through unarmed strikes, but can you do that while using a gauntlet? Like if I had a gauntlet on, and used Shocking Grasp, could I then punch someone while counting as armed for 1d3+Str+Xd6 Electrical?
This message was last edited by the player at 12:48, Sat 14 Apr 2012.

A touch spell isn't deliverable through an unarmed strike. It's just a touch attack in its own right.

You don't cast Shocking Grasp and then punch someone for 1d3 nonlethal + Shocking Grasp. The spell itself is a weapon. In fact, you are considered armed while you have one cast and ready to go. Go read the SRD. This, like 19/20ths of the questions you ask, is answered there.

There are class features (such as the duskblade has) to change this mechanic, of course.

AFK drinking all night.

I thought if you had Imrpoved Unarmed Strike, you could choose to deliver a touch attack spell in the form of an unarmed strike...though I cannot remember where I read this...

With or without improved unarmed strike, any mage can choose to deliver a touch spell through an unarmed strike or natural attack.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/comb...m#standardCastaSpell
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070410a

You cast it (at it's normal casting time), decide to hold the charge, and then may choose to take the unarmed attack action. (Holding the charge means you're armed, so you can also take an AoO). So no, you can't Unarmed Strike + Touch Spell with the same action, unless you're a 3rd level duskblade or have a similar class ability (I'm pretty sure this is what you were going for).
This message was last edited by the player at 01:39, Sun 15 Apr 2012.

That is what I thought, just didn't know you had to hold the charge to do it.

Thanks for the aid there, if nothing else holding the charge can actually have benefits in that you can then mix the touch spell in with a full attack action...or is it a separate standard action to release it, even as an unarmed strike?

If you're making a full attack while holding a charge, the first successful attack discharges the touch spell so that it takes effect on the enemy, whether you want it to or not.

Sort of related, but I just did some thought on what I can achieve at 20th level(and not a single level sooner) with Belkar.

Assuming strength is only being increased by Crown of Might's discharge, for the highest potential damage possible...because I think this looks ridiculous.

Preparation: Store Vampiric Touch into a Spell Storing weapon(Or Bloodstone if available, as it can only store vampiric touch but empowers it).
Use one of Spellsword's Channeled Spells(usable 3/day, lasts 8 hours or until discharged) for Vampiric Touch.
Use Smiting Spell on Shocking Grasp.
Use Duskblade's Channel Spell for (you guessed it), Vampiric Touch.
And finally, use Blade of Blood and sacrifice 5 HP.

Attack roll is +46(28 if power attacking), assuming only a +1 weapon and no other increases.
Damage with full power attack(thanks to true strike) comes out to 1d8+25+5d6(Smiting Shocking Grasp)+9d6(Spellsword Channel)+9d6(Duskblade Channel)+9d6*(Spell-Storing)+3d6(Blood)

*Is multiplied by 1.5 if using a bloodstone weapon, also gives superior temporary HP.


The damage range comes out to 61-243, average of 152. It takes three 3rd level spells(one of which could have been from several days prior), one 2nd level spell(cast within a minute of being uses), and one 1st level spell(used as a swift action).

The best part I'd have to say is that it's almost entirely physical or untyped damage, and shocking grasp can easily be replaced with something like Dimension Hop(teleporting them 45ft with no save) or Touch of Idiocy(1d6 penalty to all their mental stats, no save).

Hmm...Duskblade/Spellsword, a Spell-Storing one, and a Smiting Spell would be a potential 4d6 penalty to all mental scores for(due to CL) 3 hours...eats up three 2nd level spells and a single 3rd level spell, and if I have a ring of wizardry for 2nd level spells by then I'd have...17 2nd level spells/day O.o

I think I just discovered what people have been telling me for years about the dukblade...and I just never sort of picked up on.

It's good, yes, but you're a 20th level character and that's once per combat. And you deal much less to undead.

How do I deal much less to undead? Vampiric Touch is untyped damage, deals full to everything.

It is assumed that vampiric touch is negative energy, as it is necromancy. Even if you have someone that rules against it being negative energy, which it totally is, then it specifically states 1 LIVING creature touched. That part is non-debatable in that it doesn't affect non-living creatures.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:32, Sun 15 Apr 2012.

Any living creature, yes. Target line.

Sorry, I missed that one. I've never heard of someone making it negative energy though.

Still, for undead I could just do a bunch of Shocking Grasps, though quite a few undead are immune to Electricity  as well...In fact almost none of my spells would be so good against them, but that is exactly why I have my rages.

Fair enough, necromancy isn't automatically considered negative energy as RAW. If it isn't negative energy then what is it then? Negative energy certainly fits the bill, as all necromantic abilities (as in raising dead) is powered by Negative energy. Untyped damage in magic is near non-existent, being force damage if not ability damage. I'd houserule Necromancy 'untyped' to be negative energy, myself.

You do have disrupt undead and fire spells though as well. You will fight undead at all levels, including high levels if you make it that far, but this is not an undead heavy campaign. As some DM advice, don't base your build around undead unless you want to exceed in some very specific battles. :p

I guess really my only issue with it being negative energy damage is that it could heal an undead AND give you temporary HP(which makes no sense), but it can only work on living targets to begin with.

Then again, there are ways for living creatures to gain negative energy affinity. I think it deals regular hit point damage because if it didn't, then when I use it on a sufficiently leveled Dread Necromancer I'll be healing him and giving myself some temporary HP, and doesn't that make less sense then Vampiric Touch dealing damage for damage's sake?

If nothing else then vampiric touch doesn't deal negative energy damage, but undead are immune to energy drain, making the damage towards undead negated. I agree that it shouldn't be healing undead (although if it healed undead, it would be damaging the caster in this situation), but if it doesn't heal then it should be ineffective.

Either way, things with negative energy affinity are incredibly rare, but if I used it against someone would it hurt me? Or just have no effect since they are effectively 'undead' for the sake of negative energy effects?

Instead of negative energy I'd say it is effectively an energy drain effect, so ineffective vs. undead and not harming you when used offensively. Not quite that FF-esque. See the OOC thread in the other game for what we're going to decide on WF.

That is fully acceptable, it certainly is nice to have a GM that will actually discuss and compromise on disagreements, I hope I don't get spoiled and expect my RL GM to start being civil in those instances >.>

I didn't read any of the previous shit after like the first sentence of the second message after I posted last. Let me know if I should.

Gonna be another one of those days for work.

AFK 1-18 hours, probably closer to 1.

>.>

I've just been sitting on vent for like 2 days....I need to go back to work soon or I will be fired.

That's nice. Who the hell are you?

See OOC message #5008 and PM new player.

Oh! Jake! I thought teslas didn't like you? :p

Come on man...teslas doesn't like anyone. He just finds internet peeps that can handle his brand of...self-ness, and then goes about trying to either A) Bug them into a nervous breakdown, or B) Hardening them so that they are pretty much immune to internet trolls.

I've been immune to trolls for a good while now. Teslas has only strengthened my resolve.

What immunity to trolls I didn't gain from teslas, I gained from boot camp. Then again, my rage has hit an all time high of late. Damn you job market! Damn you angsty teens on my lawn!

I still lose it every so often, usually teslas is there to get caught in the overflow and...oddly enough I find sometimes his lack of reaction, no bouncing my anger/agitation back at me helps me calm down >.>

Is it weird that I can want to strangle him at times, and yet find I am actually learning fucking life lessons from the guy?

Don't let him see that. It'll only feed his ego.

I find Bear Mace an effective tool for chasing away annoying teenagers.

That...does sound like it would work...

Alright. Wow. Crazy weekend.

Now let's get our nerdy asses back in gear.

Everything else?

Good, you have a real name now.

Also, move it, assholes.

I just got done playing the D&D board game that was only released in the U.K. like ten years ago. It's pretty damn fun.

You play as Lidda, Mialee, Jozan, and Regdar from the PHB. You fight enemies that fuck your shit up, find loot, and level up from 1 to 3 over the course of like 20 different missions.

ZEIG posted in the other game that he's out for the count for the evening. I'll take a page from his book and probably be AFK from 8:30 until Sunday morning... or at least be really drunk later tonight.

Nerd friends are coming over to play some of that old D&D board game I talked about earlier. They'll be here any minute, but I'll start writing the next post. I don't expect to be finished with it.

I think we'll play a few maps, so it'll be 2-4 hours of me being AFK.

Nobody said anything about this when I posted it in a smaller game, so I'll repost it here:

These would be a lot harder to make, but damn it looks kinda good. The symbol to the right of the label of who or what something is is the type of ground that it's standing on, so you can color-code both. For instance if something is standing on an Ice Slick you can still make the ground beneath it light blue while keeping the color code for the creature's HP. Or, you could clearly show which square a large creature was standing on was difficult terrain. Or, if a goblin was lying prone in a bush, which has happened, for some odd reason, about 30 times in this campaign.

D = DAI
J = JACK
b = big enemy
. = grass



And this is what it fucking takes to make that little 4x4 grid:

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<table>
<tr>
  <th><tt>--</tt></th>
  <th><tt> 1</tt></th>  <th><tt> 2</tt></th>  <th><tt> 3</tt></th>  <th><tt> 4</tt></th>
</tr>
<tr>
  <th><tt><b>A</b></tt></th>
  <td><tt>..</tt></td>  <td><tt>D.</tt></td>  <td><tt>..</tt></td>  <td><tt>..</tt></td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <th><tt><b>B</b></tt></th>
  <td><tt>J.</tt></td>  <td><tt>b.</tt></td>  <td><tt>b.</tt></td>  <td><tt>..</tt></td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <th><tt><b>C</b></tt></th>
  <td><tt>..</tt></td>  <td><tt>b.</tt></td>  <td><tt>b.</tt></td>  <td><tt>..</tt></td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <th><tt><b>D</b></tt></th>
  <td><tt>..</tt></td>  <td><tt>..</tt></td>  <td><tt>..</tt></td>  <td><tt>..</tt></td>
</tr>
</table>

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And I formatted it like my programmer background told me to. It could have looked like this, super fucking readable:

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<table><tr><th><tt>--</tt></th><th><tt> 1</tt></th><th><tt> 2</tt></th><th><tt> 3</tt></th><th><tt> 4</tt></th></tr><tr><th><tt><b>A</b></tt></th><td><tt>..</tt></td><td><tt>D.</tt></td><td><tt>..</tt></td><td><tt>..</tt></td></tr><tr><th><tt><b>B</b></tt></th><td><tt>J.</tt></td><td><tt>b.</tt></td><td><tt>b.</tt></td><td><tt>..</tt></td></tr><tr><th><tt><b>C</b></tt></th><td><tt>..</tt></td><td><tt>b.</tt></td><td><tt>b.</tt></td><td><tt>..</tt></td></tr><tr><th><tt><b>D</b></tt></th><td><tt>..</tt></td><td><tt>..</tt></td><td><tt>..</tt></td><td><tt>..</tt></td></tr></table>

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This message was last edited by the GM at 10:45, Wed 09 May 2012.

Right, saw that but was too tired to reply/comprehend...still am but I feel I will not have any luck sleeping tonight, honestly it had been a while since my last insomnia bout so I'm not that surprised.

Anyways: That DOES look like a better grid...but it'd get so damn confusing(for me, a non-programmer), I can at least make half-assed ASCII maps.

I'm thinking about how practical it would be to write a script to handle making it for me.

Unless I suddenly got transported to backwards land, or just don't know the meaning of 'practical', unless this takes like weeks to make I'd say that is very much so in your favor.

I think the only issue would be combat on the ship, or non-square shaped rooms...it would be fundamentally understandably, but I'm having issues picturing how it would look what with each square being 'doubled up' for the chance a player is standing there.

No, what I meant is that I type it out in ASCI into some kind of simple text field how I want it to look, and then it shits out the information with all of the correct tags so that it can be posted in table format.

Then once I have that I can put in the creatures or movable objects.

If it takes me 20-45 minutes to make every new map, and I do that 25 times, I'm out well over thirteen hours of my life. Writing the program would only take like an hour, and I could just paste in a normal ASCII map that I've made and output the tags in the correct places for the table code.

In fact, now I really want to do this.

Do it. When you're finished, give it to me, heh. Maybe, that might destroy what little sense of map making I've developed so far. Sounds like a great time saver for you though.

Wouldn't it be faster to make a map on gametable, take a screenshot and host it on a site like imageshack?

I HATE dealing with image hosting providers.

I also am not a huge fan of the interface in gametable or whatever else. For me, and I'm the only one that matters, making ASCII maps is just easier. They take more time to make, initially, but it's far easier to log into only rpol (I do it on several machines) and just edit what's already there than it is to log into rpol, then boot up whatever map tool, then take the screenshot and upload it to whatever, and then get their link and post it into the game.

Furthermore, sometimes image hosting providers take your shit down. A year from now I still want to be able to go back and look at every fight the party has been in. This is a playtest, afterall, so that is useful.

I know what you mean, I've been using imageshack since 2004 and so far none of my images have ever been taken down. I can go back pages and pages of all the things I've ever hosted...except one...I think...which got taken down because it was a rather large SWF file.

My point is, we all have a way we would rather do things.

I looked up Fighting Defensively and it saidThen I read Fighting Defensively as a Full-Round Action and it saidSometimes WOTC makes my head hurt. Can anyone see the difference? I can't.

I think there saying you can make one attack or a full attack while fighting defensively. They are just being clear.

So clear they wrote the same thing twice. They could have just as easily put fighting defensively as a non action, so it would affect any and all attacks.

Yeah, that's just how the PHB worded it before there was the whole discussion of of free vs. swift vs. non-actions.

The way it works is that you just take a -4 penalty to all attacks you make for the entire round, and gain +2 to your AC. You MUST attack something to gain the bonuses, which is kinda silly in my opinion, but yeah.

Well if you didn't attack you could just use total defense, I think this was to avoid someone fighting defensively while double-moving or something else that takes up their standard action.

EDIT: To clarify, my RL group has ALWAYS house ruled in a 'defensive stance' wherein you spend a move action to gain a +2 dodge bonus to AC, increased by 1 with 5+ ranks in tumble. The common use of this was 5ft step into flanking, attack, bonus to AC without taking penalty to attack.

Can't be done with full-attack like FD, but the standard action version realistically would only even be used if you already spend your move action, so they didn't trip over each other in our games.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:31, Thu 10 May 2012.

Having the bonus to AC and combining it with the swift action for provoke I'm pretty sure was the main intent of this (as stated above). That's pretty solid. This is totally a pld/war from FFXI kind of deal.

If you're referring to the Defensive Stance, funny thing is we actually made the rule when one of us mis-remembered total defense as having a lesser version(which was actually fighting defensively), but then we tweaked it when we re-read the section and it's served pretty well since.

I dislike this. A lot.



The problem with Total Defense is that you don't threaten any squares around you. You can't make AoO's. You can't flank for your allies. You don't make casters or ranged characters step back before blasting you. You don't do a lot of things. With Fighting Defensively, you still do threaten your squares, which can be pretty huge--especially if you have a reach weapon.

The only house-rule I'd make is that you're not required to attack to fight defensively. You can use a Standard action to fight defensively even if you didn't want to attack. You take a -4 penalty for all attack rolls until your next turn and gain +2 Dodge to your AC (+3 with Tumble synergy).

There are some times you may not want to attack, and others that you might not be able to on your turn. Even still, you may very well want to take AoO's or provide flanking for your allies when it's not your turn.



And yeah, ZEIG, Provoke + Total Defense was kind of like the "HEY, COME FIGHT SOMEONE YOUR OWN SIZE. oh god oh god oh god oh god.

I find it weird that Fighting defensively and Combat expertise can be used togther, it really does make it so a character with combat expertise should never take a full defensive.

Its a weird factoid.

It seems that, RAI, you should not be able to use Combat Expertise and defensive fighting at the same time. Moreover, there are a slew of things that only trigger when you're fighting defensively OR when you have taken at least a -2/+2 with Combat Expertise.


Here's the wording the SRD that implies their exclusivity:

Normal
A character without the Combat Expertise feat can fight defensively while using the attack or full attack action to take a -4 penalty on attack rolls and gain a +2 dodge bonus to Armor Class.

Total Defense also says this:

You can’t combine total defense with fighting defensively or with the benefit of the Combat Expertise feat (since both of those require you to declare an attack or full attack)



RAW, they stack. They both only require that you perform an attack action, and they're both Dodge bonuses (which always stack). I am going to chalk this one up to shoddy editing and do some more research. I've never had anyone try to do this before.

Found the answer in the rules compendium. It literally says:

If you do so, you take a -4 penalty on attack rolls until your next turn to gain a +2 dodge bonus to AC during the same time. This bonus stacks with the AC bonus granted by the Combat Expertise feat.

So yeah. There it is. You totally can.

The Rules compandium says:

FIGHTING DEFENSIVELY
You can choose to fight defensively when attacking as a standard action or a
full-round action. If you do so, you take a –4 penalty on attack rolls until your next turn to gain a +2 dodge bonus to AC during the same time. This bonus stacks with the AC bonus granted by the Combat Expertise feat.

Honestly I dont really care if they stack because I think it should work as follows. Combat expertise replaces Fighting defensively and full defense. If you take at least any bonus on combat expertise you are fighting defensively. If you take the max penalty you count as taking a full defensive (for the purposes of effects benefiting a full defense.)

Its seems a more elegant solution to me.

Otherwise a person with combat expertise will never be able to use the benefits of feature that go off of full defense because he is better off in all cases just using combat expertise.

Before I started doing the reasearch on combat expertise, full defense, and fighting defensively i didn't even know the two abilities could stack.

And more research revealed why I had the sour taste in my mouth. In 3.0 they explicitly did not stack.

Beat me to the punch.

I've yet to find anyone that types as quickly as me, has less of a life, and is better at rules lawyering.

I also have all the 3.5 books in the other room and all of the PDFs all of my machines (even the wii's external harddrive).

I have had to learn to curtail my rules lawyering. Ive walked into long running games and taught people things they are doing wrong in systems they have been playing for 10 years that I just picked up to play with them.

I think the fighting defensively and combat expertise working together is a hokey thing.

I also think the trick Id use if you got rules lawyery on me and require me to make an attack before I get my AC bonus Hokey will the 2nd of two option is hokey.

Ill prepare an attack to hit the first enemy to move into range, which is so hokey if that wont work couldn't one just attack the square next to them and get AC bonus that way.

I have no idea what your last post was trying to say. I don't know if it's the fact that I'm on beer #3 at 10:43am, or if it's because your thought -> words mechanism isn't working as efficiently as it could.

Would you mind elaborating a bit more?

Alright ill try.

Basically rather then having combat expertise just be another way to add more stacking dodge to your AC by subtracting to hit.

The purchase of combat expertise means your character replaces the effects of fighting defensively and full defense with the effects of Combat expertise.

So basically you are considered to be fighting defensively for any feats or class feature that use that if you have taken at least a -1 to you attack roll for a bonus to AC from combat expertise.

If you take your max penelty to attack roll. In the case of normal combat expertise that would be your BAB or -5 whichever is less, it is considered you taking a full defense for the purposes of class feature and feats that require such an action.

In example if a fighter at 7th level takes a -5 to my attack rolls to get a +5 to AC. Since this is my max bonus i am considered to be full defensive. That would mean the guard class feature would add another +2 to my shield bonus to AC.

In the normal system, I would have the choice use combat expertise and fight defensively +7 AC -9 to hit can make AoO.

Or take a full defensive. +6 to AC can not attack can not make AoO do not threaten AoO cant flank.

A second example under this idea. If I take a -1/+1 combat expertise I am considered fighting defensively. So if I have 5 ranks in tumble Id get -1/+2 Ac from Synergy.

If I took the full -5/+5 then I would be considered to being full defense and get -5/+7 if I have 5 ranks in tumble.

Under normal system if I went for a full defense in this system The AC bonus would be +6.

The Combat Expertise and Fighting defensively bonus would be -9/+8 Ac.

The biggest thing I'm showing her is under the current system Full defense is never better then Combat Expertise and fighting defensive.

Another mod might be that -2/+2 combat expertise is fighting defensively but that seems arbitrary. A person is fighting defensively if he takes a penalty to attack to raise his defense.

That makes a bit more sense.


And yeah, that's just how Combat Expertise and Total Defense work. If you have Combat Expertise, Total Defense becomes sort of a futile option unless you don't have something to attack. Not having something to attack, by the way, still happens quite a bit. They might be out of your range, they might be invisible, you may not want to hit them for some reason, etc.

The way to approach the thought of the Combat Expertise feat and the fighting defensively option is this:

You're actively, with your weapon(s), keeping enemies at a distance, parrying attacks, and generally making yourself a less desirable target. If you go on total defense, you're just trying to move out of the way of everything as best as you can, and give your opponents the advantage to direct the brawl. If you take the time to spend a feat on Combat Expertise, then you're better off using your weapon to defend yourself. If you put ranks in Tumble, then you're better at attempting to dodge attacks and jump out of the way.

It's not a bad idea to give fighter/knights their +2 shield AC when taking a -4 penalty to hit with Combat Expertise. I'll throw that into our list of potential changes. We do try to steer away from mentioning feats specifically or making exceptions and additions to the way feats work. The only time we mention feats in class ability descriptions is to clarify what stacks/compliments/conflicts and what does not.

I dont have books in front of me at this moment but there is no reason I cant in theory attack air and get my combat expertise bonus to AC or ready an attack with combat expertise penelety applied to it. Either option (even if i dont make the attack because the trigger comes up) im still using my weapon to parry avoid and keep you away from me.

Logicly it does not follow.

No, you cannot attack air. No, you cannot attack yourself, and no, you cannot attack an unattended object.

Attacking your allies to get the bonus is highly frowned upon, although legal. Do not do that.

So here is situation then combat expertise only works on a standard action or full round attack. So I ready an attack action and the attack action is after i make an AoO I make a normal attack trigger hitting or missing with an AoO. The attack is going to use combat expertise -5/+5 but doesnt happen till after the AoO is made so I get my full to hit on the AoO and then take a -5/+5 to AC for all attacks during that round after the trigger occurs?

Please tell me this isnt the argument your going to hold to.

Either the penelty bonus applies from the moment I state the intent (in which case I can always use Combat expertise even when i dont have a target to hit) or that ability is correct because a AoO is not a standard action attack or full attack and therefore combat expertise cannot be used.

I find the combat expertise always being able to be used more beliveble then the other way.

Slightly off topic, but something you said made me think of it.

Can a Fighter provoke an invisible enemy? Technically you can't target an invisible enemy (like with spells and such), but if provoked verbally they would still hear it. Granted, everyone would still hear it and provoke isn't magically AoE because of it. Perhaps you could target the square they are believed to be in with provoke? Just a quick line of thought.

ZEIG first,

Provoke is an (Ex) action, so it can have some leeway with line of sight/effect. The text has been edited slightly since the last version but it could use some more.

To provoke something, these conditions must be met:

1: The target must have an intelligence score of 3 or higher.
2: The target must be able to see or hear you (it does not need to share a language).
3: You must target a singular something with Provoke, you cannot provoke enemies of which you are not aware.
4: Provoke can only cause a save and the berserk effect on your target (though clever use and role-playing may entice others to attack you as well. There are also times that provoke may be resisted with a successful will save, but the target still decides to attack you at the DM's discretion).


So if you saw a monster cast Vanish on themselves, and you're pretty sure it's in the same room as you are, yes, you can Provoke it. If you were suspicious an invisible monster was watching you that you had not yet seen, there are no valid targets for provoke. Does that clear it up? Provoke is laregly up to DM discretion in edge case scenarios like a few of our abilities (aero's potential knock back damage, treasure hunter, etc). The point of it is to make sure that the rule of cool can be observed while still imposing practical limitations.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:08, Sat 12 May 2012.

Like I said before, I thought the mechanic was silly, I've just never done anything about it. This is a decent question.

Readying an action is something you do on your turn. You essentially delay your standard action to a different part of the initiative, then act there. Fighting defensively is a function of using your standard action, so because you're not actually taking the standard action yet, you do not gain the benefits of fighting defensively (or combat expertise). They take effect once your standard action takes place, and then persist until your next turn (in your new spot in initiative)

That's just how the game works. For now we'll stick with that--because I happen to agree with it.

If it did not work this way, you could declare your intention to fight defensively when you do take your readied attack action and gain the benefits for nearly an entire round before you potentially act. While not game-breaking, it is an extremely awkward mechanic if handled that way.

So yes, in your example, you would make the AoO at full attack bonus (and no AC bonus). The fighting defensively does not happen until you actually spend your standard action to fight defensively, which you've delayed taking.



The part I don't really like is that you must attack something to gain the bonuses of fighting defensively. Technically, this could mean allies, objects, invisible enemies you "think" are there and all sorts of ugly exploits. It would make every bit of sense to me that you could, on your standard action (whenever that may be), begin fighting defensively until your next turn.

Any AoO's you make for the rest of the round take the -4 penalty, and you gain the +2 bonus to your AC. I dislike the mechanic where you must attack something to get the benefit.

(Forgive me Garus, but you weren't there for this, I'll try to be descriptive) IE: In the other game with the dwarf I had to throw my battleaxe at that thing with a ridiculous penalty (and it hit because dwarves fucking rock) to get the AC bonus while still threatening squares for Belkar to move around and flank. I don't really care for that. How did chucking my axe defensively at a different target help my AC against the golem any more than simply declaring my intention to be defensive but not on total defense?

It's clunky. The whole thing is clunky.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:11, Sat 12 May 2012.

I have no problem with having to sacrifice my standard action to get the benfits of fighting defensively/combat expertise id rather have that be the rule then have to do something ridiculous like attack a sqaure for no reason. I have an issue with the idea that a character cant gain the benefits of fighting defensively/combat expertise if he has no opponent to hit and therefore cannot defend himself as well as if he had attacked.

Well it's like Warblades- They have to make a standard attack to regain their maneuvers, if there are no enemies nearby they merely spend a standard action prepping themselves, or doing a flourish to gain the benefits.

I'm generally of the opinion that D&D rules serve a purpose. If that purpose is not served due to shitty rules, then fuck them. A standard action to fight defensively without a target should absolutely be an option imho, and when RAW breaks down let the DM handle it. Of course, each DM will handle it differently, but unless it is something totally insane, most players will play and enjoy the game regardless of how 'they' feel the ruling should go.

Sometimes that can get out of hand, considering that many rulings eventually fall apart if you try to compare the system to reality too much (physics and scientific laws, specifically). If there is a ruling go with it, if RAW doesn't explicitly state it then rule what you think is best logically (mechanics-logic and scientific logic combined). If RAW does explicitly state it but it still sucks, then change it.

I'm not overly familiar with the fighter class in this game and its abilities, but the idea of fighting defensively isn't solely a fighter issue. If you are fighting, you should be considered on the defense anyways (unless raging and berserk, hence the AC loss). If you are extra defensive, you sacrifice accuracy in order to defend yourself, but are still ready to attack at your penalty. Complete defense does not threaten. Who's to say you need a target to gain this bonus? If it is ruled so because the DM/PH states it that way then it is a poor choice imo.

Just fyi, I really don't like this fighting defensive mechanic, ESPECIALLY the part where it combines with combat expertise. I was always of the opinion that combat expertise was a better way of fighting defensively, the fact that they stack is beyond all logic to me, despite sources stated. I haven't really looked at the mechanics side of the logic involved though, so pardon me if it actually makes sense there. Either way, needing a target to be on the defense while still being aware of your surroundings and semi-prepared to attack (fighting defensively rather than total defense) seems odd to me.

ZEIG, I pretty much agree with most of what you said in your previous post.


Everyone, I've got a shit ton of work to do today. There's no deadline or time-scale on any of it, though, so just text me if you guys post and I'll be able to respond to either game.

Same as yesterday. Apart from a conference call at 1:30pm CDT that could last 10-120 minutes, just text me and I'll be able to hop on and respond.

I think i just figured out how he got the name Garus from the gaint version Gar.

It was a joke Gar save us. It was what the halfling used to say as a joke. Eventually it got shortened to Garus.

... ok? That's awesome... and stuff...

What is a "gaint"?

Im bored and its lame...

Giant...i cant spell at all.

From 2-4pm today, until 2-4pm on Monday, I will be traveling. I will have my phone and laptop, so I can still check the games, but my posting rate may suffer.

Or, you may see no difference at all. It all depends on wifi availability and how long I'm doing what I'm doing while I'm there (grandpa's 80th birthday dinner party and mini-family reunion).

Walking out the door now. Spending the night at my parents' house. Not sure if they have wifi or whatever now. Leaving the state the day after in the morning. Possibly see you kids on the flip side, possibly before.

Posting on the phone is a bit rough. Please excuse small typos and the like. The time in the subject will be a bot behind as well.

I'll go back and OCD edit everything the next time I'm at a computer.

4.50$ bourbon drinks at the bar across the street turned into a bout of edward 40-hands. I am struggling to type right now. Forgive the stagnant posting rate for the next while.

$4.50 seems a little pricey, but I also don't buy bourbon drinks that often(read: at all) so I guess I can't really say from experience.

I'm not even sure I wanna know what "Edward 40-hands" is...

Take a 40 oz thing of alcohol strap one to each hand and you cant remove them till you have drank them.

That's a lot better then I was expecting, also sounds fun as hell. Thanks for the info.

$4.50 for liquor is pretty good unless you're in a college town.

If it's a single, a little pricy depending on the brand.

If it's a double, hot. Give me some.

Drinks at most bars in this town (college town) are what would normally be considered a double. If you order a double, it's basically just straight alcohol.

Oh yeah, nothing's come up yet so it should be okay, but I just realized you should probably add at least the mature tag to this game, given the language we tend to use in public areas and whatnot. I can't remember if there's been enough descriptive gore to warrant adult for safety's sake, but if any Mature should be enough.

I've thought about that, and after reading RPoL's rules, we're in a gray area. Generally speaking, if you're not sure, it's better to be safe than sorry.

At the same time, I think it's ridiculous that saying "shit" or "god damn" in a game makes it mature. Kids hear that stuff on the school bus. This is the internet. Going to rpol.net and finding our specific game is a hell of a lot harder than going to, say, 4chan. For every blocked site some poorly-written software content blocker stops kids from going to, there are six more it doesn't block. If parents use a white list instead, and don't investigate what a large number of people post about on this site... yeah. No.

This game as yet has only had language and violence as bad as on cable television. We've not covered any dark themes apart from stabbing people, armed thievery, and the general theme of bad guys doing bad things. The phrase "raping and pillaging" being used out of context in everyday speech is more of an affront to children than this game could possibly be.


If parents can't keep their 11 year old or younger kids off of rpol, they can't keep them away from far, far worse things on basic cable, the general public, or, you know, the fucking internet.


So no. Unless explicitly told by a moderator to change the tag of the game, I don't plan on doing it. It might be a decent idea to make the OOC threads private, though.


"Adult" covers really fucking creepy shit that will never come up in this game. If it is ever suggested that we make this game adult by a moderator, we'll pack up and go somewhere else, and the periodic small donations I make to rpol will stop.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:09, Tue 29 May 2012.

I agree, I was just noting it since I've seen a few games get shut down for 2 weeks or whatever because the GM didn't put a tag on, or put the adult tag on and didn't get age confirmation from some players, or did any of the other 6547 things you're not supposed to do etc...

I was just noting it since I didn't want any of us to get in trouble, for instance I know someone who can't join mature/adult games because long time ago a GM didn't ask for age confirmation, now he isn't allowed into or to run games with that content- and he gets moderated regularly.

Meh. I asked the new guy(s) how old they were. I think I've talked to all of you about your age or we've all volunteered the information at some point in the past just bullshitting. I'll send out a PM here in a sec asking all of you how old you are.

Well you don't have to unless it's an adult game(or Mature for GMs who just wanna be sure), but I've seen games ask for that even without the tags to know if they're bringing some 13 year old in who's gonna be...well 13 all over the place >.>

Game of Thrones is either a really high quality yet lackluster softcore porn, or an HBO series about a pretty damn good fantasy setting.

Either way, I'm enjoying it.

Guess that officially makes me the only person I know who hasn't watched it or read it.

I've seen the first episode and would like to see the rest.

BTW, I think it's Dai's turn. He delayed until after Jaga.

Looks like Dai already said something.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:26, Thu 31 May 2012.

Looking over the playtest materials for "D&D Next"... it's like they slapped on some really, really basic houserules onto 3.5

It's literally just a bridge between 3.5 and 4.0. I don't know if I have an opinion yet.

tes(or anyone): Can you remind me on something? Can a wizard cast a spell with somatic components while holding a quarterstaff even though it's a two-handed weapon? I can't find mention of it but...that wouldn't leave a hand free, right? I mean you could always just 'hold' it in one hand, but what action(if any) would it be to swap back to two-handed so you can threaten squares?

The Sahuagin Baron took a hand off of his 2H weapon in order to grapple me with his 'free' hand as an attack of opportunity. Judging by that circumstance, taking a hand off of a 2H weapon is an immediate action, or at least can be part of any triggered action such as an AoO.

I remember because I was really, really pissed about it and almost died for something I didn't know was possible. Taking a hand off of a 2H weapon to cast a spell is part of the standard action to cast the spell in the first place. Holding it in 2H again? Probably also part of the same action, it takes a split second to do. This is going by what's happened in the past, I never found a ruling on it.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:48, Fri 01 June 2012.

Taking one's hand off of a two handed weapon (or putting it back on) is a free action.

Some people house-rule it to be a non-action that you can do even when it is not your turn. I am not one of those people. Much like having your eyes closed or open, you decide at the end of your turn what your hands are doing, and they stay that way until your next turn.

Say you're a Wizard 6/Swiftblade 3 and you took martial weapon proficiency: greatsword. On your turn, you just take a hand off of your sword to cast whatever spell you want, and then put it back on.

Moreover, a quarterstaff is a double weapon, not a two-handed weapon. The difference is subtle, but you can still wield a quarterstaff in one hand and attack with it just fine. Go read the damn SRD.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equi...ons.htm#quarterstaff


And you don't have to take your hands off of weapons or shields in order to grapple someone. You can do it with your hands full. I don't remember exactly what you're talking about with the baron fight, but it might have just been for flavor purposes that I described him taking his hand off of his trident. It was a one-handed weapon anyway; he was simply using it with two for the higher bonus damage on his primary attack. Plus, it looked awesome.

And the baron was, well, is, by far my favorite mini-boss. You guys let him run away to fight another day.

In reply to teslas (msg #230):

Far as I can tell it ONLY counts as a one-handed weapon when fighting with it using TWF

I don't think you're as stupid as your statement implies, but I know you're unobservant and lazy. Go back and read the text for double weapon. Read the text for quarterstaff. Everything you need to know about them is right there and pretty damn easy to understand.

If you seriously don't understand after that point, I don't know what to do for you.

Another question, this one because a friend is making me seriously wanna smack him.

Sanctum Spell(CArc) Reads that all effects tied to spell level(including save DC) are lowered by 1 out of your sanctum, later it says it uses a spell slot of the spell's normal level.

He insists that you can use this to lower a spell's require slot, and even goes as far as to claim WotC has been asked about this and confirmed as such, but has yet to supply a link. Please give me faith in the word and tell me that it isn't so, that Arcane Fusion cannot infinitely loop Santum'd Arcane Fusion and some 1st level spell.

It says "a creature wielding a double weapon one-handed...", but it's still a two-handed weapon, I've just assumed that this was for something like a large character using a medium quarterstaff one-handed couldn't TWF with one arm.

It is not a fucking two-handed weapon. It is a double weapon. Moreover, it's a double weapon with special rules.


Your friend is a bad. The burden of proof is in his court. If he claims something works or is true, he must prove it to you and everyone else, not the other way around. Have him find that link. The only way it's going to exist is if he makes it first.

If some idiot DM lets that obviously illegal "trick" fly, then all of you at the table deserve to put up with hsi stupid shit for choosing to play in some idiot's campaign.

Again, all you have to do is read the god damn text that's on the page. It is very clear. There's not even a RAI vs. RAW discussion here.

http://dndtools.eu/feats/tome-...sanctum-spell--2508/
Since I'm feeling a little less hateful than I should, and since you somehow might miss it otherwise, look at the last sentence of the "Benefit" section.

I know, I told him the SAME THING, but he isn't listening, I just needed to know since I trust your word over my own when it comes to DnD.

Okay, so I misunderstood double weapons this whole time, got it...does this mean a Dwarven Urgrosh can be used one-handed as a 'battleaxe'? Two-bladed sword as a 'longsword'?

It's all right there waiting for you. Read, damn you, read.

Double Weapons

Dire flails, dwarven urgroshes, gnome hooked hammers, orc double axes, quarterstaffs, and two-bladed swords are double weapons. A character can fight with both ends of a double weapon as if fighting with two weapons, but he or she incurs all the normal attack penalties associated with two-weapon combat, just as though the character were wielding a one-handed weapon and a light weapon.

The character can also choose to use a double weapon two handed, attacking with only one end of it. A creature wielding a double weapon in one hand can’t use it as a double weapon—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round.


Sword, Two-Bladed

A two-bladed sword is a double weapon. You can fight with it as if fighting with two weapons, but if you do, you incur all the normal attack penalties associated with fighting with two weapons, just as if you were using a one-handed weapon and a light weapon. A creature wielding a two-bladed sword in one hand can’t use it as a double weapon—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round.

(It's the same situation/text for all of the six double weapons in the SRD.)


And double weapons are two-handed weapons for some intents and purposes. An example would be if someone tries to disarm you. You get the +4 bonus if you're using a double weapon, regardless of whether you're holding it in one hand or two. The same is true for all special cases involving double weapons (edit- meant two-handed weapons), such was when wielding a lance one-handed while mounted.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:12, Sat 02 June 2012.

But why would it be in the two-handed section if it's only counted as such for specific situations? It seems more like a one-handed weapon with an extra trait then a two-handed weapon.

Because the creators didn't care what the hell went into the book?

Well fuck them and their little dog too then.

No clue about that one. Maybe the table for two-handed weapons looked a bit slim so they just threw them there to avoid having to make another entry?

But the handedness and damage and finesse and whatever else discussion happens in the first place because the rules aren't the clearest they could be, though you can draw definite conclusions from them. People hate hearing how their idea of it it all has been wrong, and a lot of people house-rule it back to the way they'd like it work--which is fine, really, since that's one of the major strengths of D&D. You can just change what you don't like or what you might think be more awesomer.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:28, Sat 02 June 2012.

You kids' activity has been shit this weekend. Stop having friends and shit... and cars that collide with your homes.

Just got done with my RL pathfinder game, tired as all hell, could probably make a post but...buh, DAI wouldn't really have much to add to ZEIG's post before JAGA had time to react or ask any questions.

I worked a bunch and had a rehearsal, and I'm pretty much waiting on another's response. Today I get to have friends.

Gonna nap.

Text me if anyone posts (in either game), serrrrsly. Last time it was like six hours after someone had posted I got a text.

I have no money this weekend so I'm just sitting at home napping and wishing I had money.

I'm going to go get hammered on box wine like a boss. Apparently my roommate's girlfriend knows other girls who are not super ugly who are also nerds. Good thing I've let my neck beard grow out all the way.

edit-
As always, feel free to text me if you guys are waiting on me.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:05, Tue 12 June 2012.

Put a picture of your fabulous neck beard up as the game map.

Gonna grab a shower then go watch Prometheus. We'll continue when I get back.

13:35, Today: SILI rolled 50 using 1d100 with rolls of 50. Random Encounter.

You guys already did the random encounter in that range (the scorpions you just fought). It wouldn't be any fun to do it again. We'll assume nothing happens so you can keep traveling.


I am a slave to the dice. They are fickle bitch-faces, but I follow them, probably to a fault.

You just hint at the fact that it MIGHT have more power then We know of, then you just go "HA NO!!!"

15:56, Today: ZEIG rolled 35 using 1d100. random encounter, the dos.

This is the most peaceful land we've ever been in. I have half a mind to settle down right here and say fuck the world, I'm trying to get eaten less here.

All the giant death scorpions are busy eating the poor, harmless wild chocobos in the fields, apparently.

The celestial rocs are migratory, so they're not here this time of year.

The krakens only beach themselves to mate every six years, so as long as you get out of here before the end of the week you're golden.


Perfect time to visit the western flatlands!

I'm looking forward to moving you guys along. You're about to head on down into one of the dungeons from FF1 after months and months, haha.

I'm way behind on work today, and I'm an idiot for even checking ZEIG's game and posting this, really. I'll have more time later this evening.

Still way behind on work for the week. Hopefully tonight and this weekend we can get cracking.

DAI/ZEIG, no alchemy for the night?

If ZEIG doesn't I guess I will, trying to decide if I wanna do like him and just make a bunch of 1st level potions, or take the time to pump out slightly higher level ones. I mean potions of Elemental Armors would come in quite handy, but they eat up a lot of supplies.

Zeig will help Dai with any potion making, take the +2.

The board game Twilight Imperium is fantastic.


For the rest of the day I have to go repair holes in the ceiling and walls of my old college party house. I moved out two years ago, but I still have a sizable security deposit that I might be able to get back a portion of. Rent there was 1500/month and we had five people... so many holes.

I am covered in gypsum. I do not miss my two summers of hanging drywall for a living.

If JAGA hasn't posed by tomorrow when I wake up, we'll continue on. He's had long enough and didn't say anything about not being available during the weekend.

lol, garus is shitting one square southwest. I'm 12.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:10, Thu 28 June 2012.

lol

south east or south west?

Uhhhh, I don't understand the joke, wherever it is.

Garus's post says that he went south west.

fixed

JAGA, where do you work if you don't mind my asking?

Also, if your phone has 3G, it almost assuredly can be used for a hotspot. What type of phone do you have?

I work in New York City. Macmillan publishers. It can be used as a hot spot, but I can't afford a lot of data. I get 250mb a month, most of which I use for work.

Holy shit. That's like, nothing. You'd think New York would be out of the stone age. Out here in bumfuck TN I can't get less than 4 GB a month with 4G LTE. There's just no option for it.

Macmillan publishers? You guys sell real quality pieces of shit...

http://us.macmillan.com/killinglincoln/BillOReilly

I prefer to look at the good books We publish. also I have no say in who We publish, just who gets to review the books we do publish. For that book, I gathered the biggest list of idiots I could get and got the book to #2 on the New York Times bestsellers list. It's just a job, people who want to read bill o'reilly will read it, people who don't want to read it won't read it.

You're glazing over one of the topics that comes up in entry-level ethics. I'm content to let you do it, too.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. As said by Texas "This is 'Merica!!!"

I've tried everything I know to get around these net blocks. Anyone have any suggestions?

In reply to JAGA (msg # 274):

Not sure if it works the same way as just blocking specific sites, but have you tried looking for a proxy site to access rpol through?

Anything I'd do to help you would probably really piss off your employer if they found out about it.

There are things you can do on your end, but I really don't care to spend the hour or more it would take to figure it all out.

For starters, just to see, is it your computer you bring to the office, or does the machine belong to them (likely)?

I've tried proxy sites as well as direct proxy servers.

It's their machine.

Then the best we could do is have you install a program which you might not have the rights to install. It could scan all of the open ports on your network to see what you have to work with.

We could also do desktop sharing so I could see what is actually going on.


The first thing, if your have a competent IT staff and are at a moderate-to-large sized company, will throw up a red flag pretty god damn quick.

The second thing is less likely, depending on the company's day to day operations.

phone wireless is unblocked again...sweet.

My phone keeps changing Jaga to Bags

I am poor as fuck after last weekend's drinking and moving into a new place, so I'll be home all weekend long. Text me if you're waiting for me.

Also, I don't know about you guys, but I am loving the super-long dice roll history. I don't know when they changed that (over a week ago), but it's nice from a number-loving autistic's point of view, as well as from a DM's.

I hadn't even noticed that! Man, now I'm gonna make some huge retarded mistake while intoxicated some night and someone will discover it a week later.

Holy shit, when did that happen? Huh...well I like it, always nice to have the last week plus to go back over instead of seeing a post and thinking 'isn't that a bit off...?' before finding the dice log refreshed that morning >.>

Ope, I've got to take a shower and be a real boy for the next couple hours.

Phew. This past weekend went by quickly. Shit.

We'll get back to it this evening.

I know I said we'd get rolling, but I keep getting drunk or having to do work or sleeping.

Sorry kids. I think about you all the time, I just don't do anything about it. You're like that girlfriend you don't really care about anymore, but don't want to break up with them because the sex is still good. Except for DAI. It was always bad, and probably always will be. Read a book on it or something.

This is my token 5-minute phone call to satisfy your attention needs even though we're not going to hang out today.

But seriously, we'll get this rolling late tonight or tomorrow.

Maybe I should try working on this for some of the people I know...it seems my friends like hanging out significantly more then I do, not sure if that's something to do with my glowing personality, or maybe I just hang out with a lot of interaction-dependent people.

No, you probably should not. That's what the more flamboyant gays do. Normal, straight men do not call each other to just say "hey".

I was talking about when you have a girlfriend. They demand attention. If you don't really like them, then it's annoying to give it to them. Some are more needy than others, of course.

Posting from laptop. My fucking desktop's onboard LAN ports just took a shit after a power blackout. I have no idea how just they could fail.

I don't like updating the game from the laptop unless forced to do so, not to mention I was midway through like three posts on Rpol when the power blinked. I think I'm going to call it a night.

I'll give someone 50 kajillion EXP and a dragon (color of your choice, age category at DM discretion) will come and give your character a handjob if you mail me a replacement PCI ethernet card. I can't believe I even need such a thing in this day and age...

If it wasn't just my character getting a hand job, I might give one to you.

Seriously that sucks though. While I'm in LEEE thread, my last day at my old job is today/tomorrow/Saturday. After that I work a normal 30-hour week, 3:30-9:30PM EST Tuesday-Saturday, so expect better communication from me in the future. Oh my god a stable work week sounds amazing.

Yeesh, sorry to hear that dude...does seem kind of off that that would just sort of happen from a blackout, but I guess severing the power to most complex electronics(computers, recent game systems etc) can seriously fuck shit up on like a 1/1 million chance, such as the 'wait until it's powered down to unplug it' sort of advice.

I do not know what that thing you need is, or where you live though...so I doubt I'd be able to mail ya one any time soon(real shame, DAI riding around on a dragon sounds awesome)

Actually, it's even worse as I just found out trying to listen to some Pandora while sleeping.

The speakers probably blanked the on-board audio, which I noticed was fried as well. That probably took the onboard ethernet ports in turn. Then, it hard locked just a few minutes ago, and would not reboot due to not finding the boot drive. Even getting it to POST took about 120 seconds, which is way not normal.

Chances are the motherboard is just donskies. At least I still have this crappy laptop.

And you ALWAYS power down a computer before you unplug it. Always. Many, many applications, especially linux-based stuff, will not write everything to the harddrive. They will keep it cached in memory, and only periodically write things to the harddrive as needed or when idle, and even then it may be incomplete.

If you unplug a computer while it's running, especially if it's in the middle of happily running windows or another OS, you could seriously fuck up your shit. The odds of this happening are about 1/5000 for modern windows and a little higher for linux/macOS (heavily depending on your distribution), but you roll that 1/5000 chance enough times and it becomes pretty likely.

Anything with moving parts being unplugged while in operation, like your harddrive spinning around at 120-250 rotations per second, should definitely be powered down or in an idle state before having the power cut abruptly.

TL;DR:
Computers are not appliances. Shut them off before yanking the cable.

Damn...when it rains it pours, right?

And yeah...I said that, not sure why you felt the need to elaborate, unless it was the details of stuff you were trying to fill me in on >.>

Yes, I was trying to impress upon you the importance of not hard-pulling a computer in operation. Most people don't know what it can sometimes do.

Magic internet boxes are magic.

Well the internet box is a moden/router setup, and while they have power sources as far as I know they don't have moving parts, and aren't as bad about the 'unplug while operating' thing, though still I tend to hold that practice for all electronics at all times...I got shocked a lot as a kid, wasn't much of a quick learner until my pre-teens.

Just now, my laptop charger went out. I can no longer charge this machine until I get another one. Jesus fucking christ...

See you kids on the flip side. Going to shut this down for now to save battery.

...dafuq man? Seriously, it's like the PC gods have turned their backs on you...

I got my laptop rebuilt correctly. Moreover, since my desktop is fucked, I just keep my super awesome keyboard with the laptop now. Let's get back to it.

/Cheer! Sorry to hear about your computer, but glad to have you back. I'll probably die when this laptop finally shits the bed.

"Cry havoc and let slip the hogs of war."

"Dogs of war."

"Chocobos of war!"

"Look, whatever farm animals of war! Shut up. Let's do this!"

I'll be home all day today, or at least have my laptop with me and be bored.

If a couple people post in this game, or any other game for that matter, and I haven't noticed within 30 minutes, send a text.

I got extremely drunk last night, and slept in until about just now, and now I'm going to my real-life D&D game.

Have fun at yer game, my group hasn't been able to meet up in about 3 weeks :/

Some plans I wasn't accounting for actually worked out. I need to clean my house up a bit and go out and buy a few things, but if I get time and can update the game I will before it gets too late.

Garus stabbed the body next to him, but it still seems alive. Now all of the things get to go.


Sorry to keep you kids hanging.

Things went well, to keep it short. I'm back, and we'll move on if I don't pass out after dinner.

Glad to hear you had a good time.

Woops, I somehow missed that SILI posted. Probably because he didn't text me. *cough*

Jesus fucking christ the other games on rpol are horrible. And what the hell is with everyone having adult and mature games.

Dai wanted me to let everyone know that his internet is down, just an FYI.

Yea, a lot of the rpol games seem terribad. It's a little insane how much investment it takes to figure out just how awful a game is unless they are obviously terrible. I consider myself lucky in a lot of ways.

Mature is generally so they don't get in trouble for combat, or deciding to be descriptive on how the goblin's head is separated from its body. Adult, for the most part, I've seen people use not for the intention of anything, but just so they don't get in trouble for any language or whatever they decide to use.

There are a lot of creepy sexual adult/mature rpol games as well. While adult/mature tags don't necessary mean that (both mine and tes' games should really have one of those tags simply due to OOC language and alcohol themes) RPing crazy sexual fantasies is pretty much the same thing as phone sex and is at least just as sad, if not much, much sadder. I'm pretty sure that's what is weirding teslas out. It is a lot more prevalent than you might think too. Freakin' awkward, unless you're into that kind of thing, I guess. Me, I'd rather get my jollies off irl, especially since people often roleplay things outside of their reach irl (fictional magic user, fictional crazy powerful warrior, in this strange case someone that can actually get laid...). Really kind of sad when taken in the context of some of the creepy adult games.

While not every game that emulates something is doing it because it is too hard irl to accomplish, many of them are, especially when it comes to the crazy creepy people RPing sexy-time fun-filled fantasy shows. *shudder*

Ok, all of your character sheets need to list how big your character's penises are, and when and how you're most often aroused... sexually.

1,000 word minimum.

Why? I mean I get the point, but I seriously doubt any game goes that far into detail...I mean getting sick kicks online is one thing, but if they read a novel to do so then I guess more power to them...not enough people read these days anyways.


I just find it humorous that you, who practically preached the whole 'it's the internet so it doesn't matter' thing in Vil's game...get so hot and bothered(see what I did there?) over some adult rated games.

Heebie motherfuckin' jeebies. It's just creepy.

At least I haven't seen anyone playing FATAL.

I know for a fact FATAL is run on rpol, if only because I remember a player in another game regretting his decision to run one, but not backing down from it.

I was slammed when I posted last night. The bar I work for had a blue moon party.

Anyways just end my movement after the 15', so no movement.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:59, Sun 02 Sept 2012.

Axis and Allies time. I'll be gone for a bit.

AFK for quite a bit of the rest of the day, though I should be able to check in once or twice before tomorrow, hopefully.

You guys have most of a plan ready. Fucking use it. Shit.

Are Jaga and/or Garus capable of pulling us faster than we can swim?

strength of 18(20 with the staff, but I have to be holding it)

Maybe.

I can't pass a DC 10 by taking 10, so more than half of the time I won't be moving at all. Anything is faster than that, plus the initial sinking like a rock is bound to be more than 30' a round that I move IF I am able to pass a swim check.

You guys are over-thinking this a bit... I'd hate to see what would happen if you had to do something even more complex, like making a sandwich, or... anything else the party has ever done up to this point.

You're fucking trying to sink it water. There are thousands of stone bricks around you. This shit is simple.

Maybe by the time I can check in again in a few days someone will have banged on the keyboard enough to accidentally type out a plan--albeit with some forgivable grammatical errors.

And Garus is way heavier than a brick, I've already said I have no problem tying myself to him and just sinking like a log IC. And why are we posting game-OOC stuff in the everything-but-game OOC thread?

I don't know.


And you're all waiting for someone else to say something. When everyone is waiting for someone else to say something, nothing ever happens.

One of you assholes read everything that everyone has posted, take some initiative, and get the party started.

I've landed and had a couple nights' worth of adventures already. I haven't ready anything (from either game, ZEIG), but tonight I will get to it. The power adapter I brought does not work properly, so I hope to find another one today.

Talk to you kids soon.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:34, Tue 25 Sept 2012.

Ungh. So drunk. Will try to update, will see how far we get.

Ungh. So hung over. Will try to update after I shower and clean up the place a little bit, will see how far I can get before having to leave for Paris.

Alright, so since this came up in another game: Who is JAGA? I could just be forgetting when Alex(from the other game, original player of the petrified monk idea) lost internet and was replaced, but that doesn't answer who he is exactly...which I don't recall us discussing.

EDIT: Alex, not Evan, Evan was the one who ran a game for a week or so.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:27, Sat 29 Sept 2012.

JAGA is some dude from the internet that has never been in the game or any other rpol game in which I've been a part of before his character here.

JACK->SILI and I were in a skype game with him which has since stopped, which is where I (and JACK->SILI) met him.

I come from the internet.

On a scale of one to fucking awesome, Marrakesh is pretty damn cool.

...and I still had time to log on and check the game. Post you assholes.



Also, AZERTY keyboards blow bags upon bags of dicks.

AZERTY keyboards? Never heard of them.

it has been a while.

They're pretty much only found in french-speaking countries. They fucking suck. If you want to know why, use google, look at a picture of the layout. Luckily I can change the region settings on this thing to make it mostly QWERTY, but some of the keys are still in fucked up locations making it pretty damn annoying even still.

We'll continue on down the natural-looking tunnel when I get back to Belgium on my own damn laptop at a place with decent internet and all of the other good stuff. We leave in the morning from here, and will finally get back tomorrow night. I don't know if I'll have time to log on and post before passing the fuck out.

There's a small chance I have time tomorrow before we leave, otherwise, talk to you kids in roughly 36 hours.

I brought my laptop with me this time, but I only have 10-15 minute periods maybe twice a day to get on here and post. It takes me only a minute or two to reply to the other two (well, three) games I'm in, and usually upwards of 20-45 minutes to post for this one.

If I have time, I'll update this one, because you guys are finally getting into some real meat and potatoes shit here. Unfortunately, it's just more cost effective and courteous to more people to not hold up the other three games than it is to try and squeeze out a rushed post here, especially since DAI, ZEIG, and SILI share two out of the three other games with me.

I hope to be able to update this game tonight, if we're not bombed on wine and the lady doesn't expect me to, you know, not ignore her for a prolonged period of time.


Kk, need to take a shower and go out and laugh at more of these fucking Italians. It's like they read every stereo-type ever conceived and conform to them perfectly.

I had a lot of time on a laptop in an airport just now on an extremely tiny net book. It was enough to type a book for another game making fun of the DM (you suck, VIL), but basically impossible to open a few tabs and make a competent and hardy post for this game.

I'll be back on my laptop tonight. Thanks for being patient, kids.

In reply to teslas (msg # 341):

No problem, been somewhat distracted myself by other things, have been falling behind a little in some of the games I'm in. Hoping to get back into the swig of things soon.

Obviously, I lived through the plane ride home. They lost my bag, however, fuckers. Luckily my presents for my parents and my electronics were all in my carry-on.

I'll be back at my own apartment Sunday afternoon, as said in the PM. We'll get started again then, or the next day if nerd-night runs long.

Looking forward to it!

Back in town, finally. Need to do a bunch of errands today, but tonight I should finally have time to get this going.

Son of a bitch. I had an entire post made up and I guess I hit preview instead of submit. When my computer automatically shut down an hour after I got up, everything was lost...

It's late now, and I was only checking in to bitch that nobody had responded yet.

Sorry guys. I wasn't even drinking.

The new laptop charger is in the mail and should have been here today. I am fucking going insane without reliable and easily usable access to the internet.

I'll keep you guys posted, but checking on the phone is a pain in the ass.

Drive to the store and buy a laptop cable already! How u no interweb?

I ordered a new cable today.

They refunded me for the first one. If it does get here, I'm claiming that it never got here, and that they're assholes.

Well the latter half would be true at least >.>

GOOD FUCKING NEWS, EVERYONE.


I am typing this on my laptop as it is charging.

I'm going to update the other games I'm in (sorry to those of you who share them with me) and then come back here.

There's a chance a friend comes over in the next 45 minutes and they'll be able to boobs me into going out tonight. Even if this happens, the computer is now up and running, and we're going to get rolling.

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I'll be going out tonight.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:56, Sat 17 Nov 2012.

I have no idea what I'm doing for thanksgiving other than being at my parents' house at 3pm that day. I might leave wednesday morning and come back friday night, or I might drive out there at noon on thursday and come back directly after eating.

They just sold their house moved and moved into a small place while their new one is being built. I don't think they have internet yet (or if they'll even bother to get it since they're moving again). I can check the game and post in the OOC on my phone without issue, though content creation is hard on the tiny screen, non-existent keyboard, and lack of ease of access to all of the campaign material I have stored online.

At any rate, we're back and moving along again. It's been too long, and for that you have my apologies.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:56, Tue 20 Nov 2012.

And remember:

Text me when you guys are waiting on me.

First of all, hope everyone's thanksgiving went well. I am stuffed fat like a good consumerist american whorebag should be.

My grandma had a little bit of a fall earlier today, but unfortunately it was at the top of a staircase. I'll get some more news in the next couple of hours, but obviously it could come up that I go AWOL for a bit if there's anything serious going on. I'll probably be able to give you guys some sort of warning before this happens. Just a heads up.

Now I'm going to head to bed to sleep in case I need to do some driving tomorrow.

Turns out the old lady is doing damn well considering what she went through. No driving.

Good deal, stairs are dangerous shit.

I'd love to read your post IC but I just made dinner for 20 people and as soon as work is over I'm going to join them for drinking and bad decisions.

Post!

Also, I'm leaving town tonight to do some more carpentry for my roommate's parents. I should be back Friday midday. I'll have my cell phone, but not my laptop, so I can reply so long as a lot of dice rolling isn't necessary.

Going to lay down for a nap.

Tonight is my axis and allies game. I usually get home a bit on the other side of 1am after it's all packed up and done with.

In other news, I'll be in Chattanooga for most of the weekend starting Friday afternoon.

Most of the info on my holiday travels is in the PM, just wanted to pop in and tell you that I'm still alive. I probably won't have too much time to post tomorrow before leaving to NOLA for the celebrations the night of the 31st.

If I die in a drunken stupor, or if any of you die, it was good playing with you. Talk to you kids next year.

This is the final check-in. Today was the last day that my guest and I were doing traveling. From here until the 7th we'll be staying in the town I'm from. I still won't be super-active during the day, but at least now I can check daily.

See you kids much more often starting the night of the 7th. Happy New Years and all that mess.

Happy new Years to you too.

Was away for the vacation, Got back and my computer is broken. Will try to get it fixed asap. I'll post on my phone when I can.

Get to work! I'm excited to be a PC again.

Gonna head to bed. I have a job interview in the morning (hopefully the last one before I start work (hopefully this week)). After I get home from that we'll move right along.

In other news, I'm no longer unemployed!

The money isn't as much as I had hoped (but it's still not bad), however the team of guys I'll be working with seems like this will be a damn good time.

Considering we've been going through some random girl visiting me, the holiday break, and then my month of stomping around other continents before that, my activity level will remain unchanged if not go up substantially.

Wait, you didn't have a job this whole time? I missed out on so many opportunities to hound you.

I haven't had a job since like fucking mid-August.

So Since everything around me is asleep and seems to be out good. Just have me stand up and walk quickly to cut off the crawlers on Jaga from getting to Dai Sili and Zeig. I should have 9 squares of movement which puts me due northwest of Dai if I miss counted just put me in the place I can reach that best cuts the crawlers off from Zeig.

Sorry, fell asleep. Posted!

These creatures are on the smaller side right?
This message was last edited by the player at 14:34, Thu 17 Jan 2013.

They are size Medium.

I forgot about my initiative buff thing, why didn't anyone tell me it was my turn? I've been dicking around in the other game all day.

Because you are a big boy and can read, not to mention the thread was red.

I've been away all day until now anyway.

I read the thread early this morning and missed it being my turn, so it wasn't red past 11AM EST. I've been hitting F5 and posting in the other game, surprised no one called me on it.

So...you still sore about that whole 'getting JACK killed over some water' thing? :p

Where all my insomniacs at?

Now that my internet is back up...*raises hand* yo.

Heads up:

I have to wake up for work in less than five hours. I will be gone from now until probably 6pm or so. I will probably be dead tired when I get home, so no promises on being able to post until later in the evening.


Have a good one, kids.

Ah, shit. I forgot a promise I made to a friend for tonight.

I am sorry I called you fags fags and berated you for not posting instantly, and now that you have, I have to leave.


Hopefully I get back soon enough tonight to update the game.

I'll be at work all day today. For the first few days, maybe couple of weeks, I won't be able to check rpol while there most likely.

Yea, gotta watch those ellipses. Whatever you do, don't put two spaces after a sentence! He'll deduct XP.

teslas doesnt haste give me one more attack at full attack bonus.

Yea, you should get an extra hit, and unless I'm reading something wrong shouldn't your iterative be +9/+9/+4? It is +9/+6 atm, but maybe Mighty Strikes or some magic item changes that.

Yeah I forgot your extra attack from Haste. Let me go edit that in. I was posting in between eating breakfast and sending emails for work before I got there.

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Fixed. You missed on your iterative attack but hit with your extra one from Haste, so the damage remains constant and the post is (only through luck), still valid.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:18, Thu 24 Jan 2013.

I know it is for me, good thing I have the next post typed up already. Take comfort that both of your DMs are alcoholics. Actually, just me, I think teslas drinks with people.

JAGA, damn it man.

Probably AFK most of the rest of the night. I think we're getting an impromptu not-superbowl party together.

Gotsta pass out before work in the morning. See you kids tomorrow.

Been sick all day. Going to pass out.

Still kinda shitting water off and on from the stomach bug, found a new girl toy, and have been busy with the new job. The other D&D games I'm in I've been almost exclusively posting from my phone. It's nearly impossible to create ASCII maps from a damn phone. In fact, we'll just say it is impossible because before I'm done I'll throw my phone into a wall in a fit of rage.

Pretty soon here it's real-life nerd time.

I have not forgotten about you kids, and I really want to move along.

In reply to teslas (msg # 390):

No worries, the game has managed to survive this long so I'm sure we can wait out a stomach bug. I don't think anyone is going to blame you for not wanting to do an ASCII map on your phone.

ASCII maps aren't even readable on my phone, let alone creatable. Definitely no hell given there.

Hurry up and get better/stop having a social life/quit work so we can fight some illithids or drowned though, something real bad.

Sorry I've been gone so long. Last semester of college is hard. A lot of project going out in every class.