Out of Roleplay 8.   Posted by Siriel.Group: archive 0
Solomon Chastain
 player, 1507 posts
 Delighted to meet you.
 Charmed, I'm sure.
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 02:47
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Tasha:
It's not quite that bad.  Right now, one on one, there are people in the group who come close to her.  And due to her utter lack of armour, as noted in this fight, one lucky roll takes her out.

I know.  I keeeeed.  ;)

Tasha:
The people who use armour ought to be petitioning Siriel for cash and opportunity to get better.  Come on, people, it's your thing, you've got tons of points in wear armour for a reason.

Yay.  One more thing I don't have!

Tasha:
Also, Tasha sucks horribly at anything but fighting.  And singing.

Hey, singing is one of my top 3 skills, and Tasha kicks my arse at that as well!

And I still manage to fit in "sucks at fighting" on my résumé.

Seriously, my top 3 skills are awesome.... if one wants to look really cool as a singing juggler.
Siriel
 GM, 1254 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 02:59
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
In reply to Solomon Chastain (msg # 974):

^Implying that Solomon wouldn't fumble while on the job^
Tasha
 player, 1850 posts
 My heart
 is a furnace
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 03:19
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Avelyn Golias:
Not that my Social rolls have ever succeeded in doing anything against NPCs. Oh wait, there was that one time it almost worked, until...

Tasha. >.<


Those guys had it coming.
Tasha
 player, 1851 posts
 My heart
 is a furnace
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 03:20
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Solomon Chastain:
Hey, singing is one of my top 3 skills, and Tasha kicks my arse at that as well!

And I still manage to fit in "sucks at fighting" on my résumé.

Seriously, my top 3 skills are awesome.... if one wants to look really cool as a singing juggler.


What you were looking for when you created Solomon?  :)
Avelyn Golias
 player, 1347 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 03:28
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Tasha:
Avelyn Golias:
Not that my Social rolls have ever succeeded in doing anything against NPCs. Oh wait, there was that one time it almost worked, until...

Tasha. >.<


Those guys had it coming.


That likely applies to more than 50% of the named cast.

Tasha:
What you were looking for when you created Solomon?  :)


A very good question for the Imperium.
Siriel
 GM, 1255 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 03:32
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Avelyn Golias:
That likely applies to more than 50% of the named cast.

Indeed. You guys have your inevitable doom coming, given how determined you are to stop a man from assuring world peace.
Avelyn Golias:
A very good question for the Imperium.

The answer would no doubt be something incredibly intelligent, such as needing a new brand of can openers but being too lazy to design one themselves.
Tasha
 player, 1852 posts
 My heart
 is a furnace
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 03:45
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Siriel:
Indeed. You guys have your inevitable doom coming, given how determined you are to stop a man from assuring world peace.


Yeah...I'm going to agree with Siriel.

Heck, Tasha would be the first to admit she has something horrible coming to her.
Assistant
 GM, 206 posts
 Faceless Minion
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 03:46
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Siriel:
The answer would no doubt be something incredibly intelligent, such as needing a new brand of can openers but being too lazy to design one themselves.


Boss, your feelings are showing...
Avelyn Golias
 player, 1348 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 03:59
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Tasha:
Siriel:
Indeed. You guys have your inevitable doom coming, given how determined you are to stop a man from assuring world peace.


Yeah...I'm going to agree with Siriel.

Heck, Tasha would be the first to admit she has something horrible coming to her.


Blood for Blood Empress! Kisses for the Kisidan plushie!


World War III for world peace from some backwoods cult in awe of their leader's fancy hair doesn't sound like Avelyn's cup of tea.
Tasha
 player, 1853 posts
 My heart
 is a furnace
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 04:02
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Funny thing is, I don't think we've at all figured out the guy's plan.  It's all a lot of circumstantial stuff, conjecture, and heresay.

:)
Assistant
 GM, 207 posts
 Faceless Minion
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 04:08
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Disregard my last message if you read it.  It occurs to me I shouldn't post anything about upcoming games until I'm ready.
Preston Child
 player, 386 posts
 A crushing defeat
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 05:17
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Assistant:
Disregard my last message if you read it.  It occurs to me I shouldn't post anything about upcoming games until I'm ready.


Upcoming games, I thought we dismissed this claim?
Avelyn Golias
 player, 1349 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 06:13
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Tasha:
Funny thing is, I don't think we've at all figured out the guy's plan.  It's all a lot of circumstantial stuff, conjecture, and heresay.

:)


The most heresay has come from Al Sheivan himself though.


Exactly how he plans to achieve this is a bit beyond me. The only way he'd conquer the world peacefully, off the top of my head, is having someone more charismatic than Abel, able to forge undying loyalty in people by walking by.

Preston Child:
Assistant:
Disregard my last message if you read it.  It occurs to me I shouldn't post anything about upcoming games until I'm ready.


Upcoming games, I thought we dismissed this claim?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBJI1_N6sVU

Sharp, no one else encountered the post you made yesterday that told us the truth about the next game. Only you and your wife ever saw the campaign data. I believe you, but without evidence from another source, the others believe Siriel was just trolling us again.

This message was last edited by the player at 06:14, Mon 31 Dec 2012.

Garon Quoros
 player, 602 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 06:25
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Avelyn Golias:
<quote Tasha> The only way he'd conquer the world peacefully, off the top of my head, is having someone more charismatic than Abel, able to forge undying loyalty in people by walking by.


Well, I guess it's possible, but I don't even know if Garon is even interested in lending his charm to Al Shevans cause.
Solomon Chastain
 player, 1508 posts
 Delighted to meet you.
 Charmed, I'm sure.
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 09:13
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Tasha:
Solomon Chastain:
Hey, singing is one of my top 3 skills, and Tasha kicks my arse at that as well!

And I still manage to fit in "sucks at fighting" on my résumé.

Seriously, my top 3 skills are awesome.... if one wants to look really cool as a singing juggler.


What you were looking for when you created Solomon?  :)

Precisely what I have.  His brand of "awesomeness" makes me chuckle constantly.  :)
Avelyn Golias
 player, 1350 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 09:46
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
In reply to Garon Quoros (msg # 987):

I hope to see you actually posting again soon. :)
Garon Quoros
 player, 603 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 09:50
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Avelyn Golias:
In reply to Garon Quoros (msg # 987):

I hope to see you actually posting again soon. :)


Well, seeing as I am no longer doing triple overtime as a result of my coworker being shanked, things are looking a bit better. XD
Avelyn Golias
 player, 1351 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 11:35
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
In reply to Garon Quoros (msg # 990):

Glad to hear it. The no more triple over time thing. Not the shanking.


On another note, I've just realised I dropped the ball on the Jared cutscene convo. Sorry Jared.
Tasha
 player, 1855 posts
 My heart
 is a furnace
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 11:47
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Avelyn Golias:
The most heresay has come from Al Sheivan himself though.


Exactly how he plans to achieve this is a bit beyond me. The only way he'd conquer the world peacefully, off the top of my head, is having someone more charismatic than Abel, able to forge undying loyalty in people by walking by.


Thank you for making my point for me.  :). 'No idea what the guy is actually doing' only translates to 'let's find him and stop him!' In Player haracterese.  :)

We don't really know anything solid about what he's up to.  We have his thoughts that things have to change.  Some of his philosophy about peace.  The guy dealt fairly with us (we kind of didn't, but that's another matter).  His people, when attacked, didn't pull out hidden magic or weapons and fight; instead, they got slaughtered because they aren't fighters.  When pursued by people intent on attacking him, in the presence of the man who tried to murder his followers, he took possibly the most peaceful method he could to dissuade us.

And again, we don't really know anything one way or the other.

But now it's 'we must stop the nefarious Al Shievan!  By the sword if need be!"

Rather than, 'we need more info and Casus was a prick.  Lets find Al, apologize, and then try to figure out what's what.'

I just find it funny.  Okay, a little boggling as well.
Tasha
 player, 1856 posts
 My heart
 is a furnace
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 11:52
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Maybe it's guilt.  That's one theory.

I mean, first we killed the Azur Alliance guy and he left us a note that made us feel badly. And he said, 'get the orb!'  And called Al an idiot.  But that's all.

Okay, it seems he also actively warned us against Casus.

You see, Al Sheivan has, in his infinite foolishness, acquired the attention of a certain third party. They are on their way to acquire the artifact - by any means necessary.
The catastrophe that would occur if they succeeded cannot be overstated. No matter who you serve, you would not enjoy the result.


And then we headed out and helped Casus.

.....

I'm still puzzling that over.  :)

So maybe there's guilt.

Then we kind of turned on Al, helping Casus (the catastrophic 'Third Party' mentioned above) against him, threatening him, waving weapons at him, and generally going back on the spirit of our bargain with him based on the word of Casus, a guy who had just shown himself to be the sort who would murder a whole lot of people to get what he wanted.

Maybe we're making Al out to be the bad guy here because it helps us feel better about these things?  :)

I don't know.  Anyway, what has Al done that is so horrible?  That we've actually seen evidence of, not just heard about from people we should hold in suspicion?
Avelyn Golias
 player, 1352 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 12:14
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
In reply to Tasha (msg # 992):

Your old man memory may be blurring a few bits there, Sharp. ;)

We were most certainly *not* intent on attacking Al Sheivan. If he was still aware of our plans the same way he was when we began to enter his fort, he would know we weren't planning on attacking him. We made plans for attacking him if we had to. What we did want, i.e. examining the chest, might very well might have inconvenienced him.

As for his plans, he's specifically stated what he wants.

""And well it would be if such could come to us freely and without force! But the world is too far fractured, war is inevitable.

And so I seek someone who can unite those who are now hesitating between the two titans that are the falling Empire and the rising Alliance. One who will understand the plight of the common man, but not be blinded by it.

I am not so idealistic as to think that it would be simple, or quickly achieved. But it is something that must be done. Humanity will stand united once more."


Even if Al Sheivan somehow achieved this without bloodshed, it would not be in the Empire's interests.

Tasha:
Maybe it's guilt.  That's one theory.

I mean, first we killed the Azur Alliance guy and he left us a note that made us feel badly. And he said, 'get the orb!'  And called Al an idiot.  But that's all.

Okay, it seems he also actively warned us against Casus.

You see, Al Sheivan has, in his infinite foolishness, acquired the attention of a certain third party. They are on their way to acquire the artifact - by any means necessary.
The catastrophe that would occur if they succeeded cannot be overstated. No matter who you serve, you would not enjoy the result.


And then we headed out and helped Casus.

.....

I'm still puzzling that over.  :)

So maybe there's guilt.

Then we kind of turned on Al, helping Casus (the catastrophic 'Third Party' mentioned above) against him, threatening him, waving weapons at him, and generally going back on the spirit of our bargain with him based on the word of Casus, a guy who had just shown himself to be the sort who would murder a whole lot of people to get what he wanted.

Maybe we're making Al out to be the bad guy here because it helps us feel better about these things?  :)


Again, you've got some very fuzzy memory here Sharp. It doesn't sound like you're joking either.

I've already said that striking any deal with Casus was not the best decision, and made it clear both in and out of roleplay on that.

However, here is what we did not do. We did not threaten Al Sheivan. We did not help Casus against Al Sheivan. We most certainly did not go after him based on anything Casus said.


Tasha:
I don't know.  Anyway, what has Al done that is so horrible?  That we've actually seen evidence of, not just heard about from people we should hold in suspicion?


He's planning to create a fourth superpower that will significantly weaken the Empire's prospects for reunification. That's not necessarily *horrible* in a general sense by itself. It does make him Avelyn's long term enemy, a big one if she thinks him remotely up to the task, which she does.

This message was last edited by the player at 12:21, Mon 31 Dec 2012.

Corim Shastur
 player, 608 posts
 Your world is a joke.
 Be chewed by the beasts.
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 12:16
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Corim quite liked Sheivan. He seemed interesting.

Granted, the last person he thought that of turned round and murdered 50% of the party...
Solomon Chastain
 player, 1509 posts
 Delighted to meet you.
 Charmed, I'm sure.
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 12:50
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
In reply to Corim Shastur (msg # 995):

Hey, Solomon got on OK with the guy too.  Al even said he'd be willing to talk further with him about his aims, if/when they met again.

I don't think he was quite so happy with other members of the group though.  :(
Tasha
 player, 1858 posts
 My heart
 is a furnace
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 12:51
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Avelyn Golias:
Your old man memory may be blurring a few bits there, Sharp. ;)

We were most certainly *not* intent on attacking Al Sheivan. If he was still aware of our plans the same way he was when we began to enter his fort, he would know we weren't planning on attacking him. We made plans for attacking him if we had to. What we did want, i.e. examining the chest, might very well might have inconvenienced him.


Sorry about the fuzzy memory, but 'attacking him if we had to' is kind of odd.

And after he got away, we've been all about 'stopping the nefarious man'.

quote:
""And well it would be if such could come to us freely and without force! But the world is too far fractured, war is inevitable.

And so I seek someone who can unite those who are now hesitating between the two titans that are the falling Empire and the rising Alliance. One who will understand the plight of the common man, but not be blinded by it.

I am not so idealistic as to think that it would be simple, or quickly achieved. But it is something that must be done. Humanity will stand united once more."


Even if Al Sheivan somehow achieved this without bloodshed, it would not be in the Empire's interests.


And?

If the guy can put together something that works as well or better than the Empire (which isn't working terribly well right now - yes, Elisabetta is doing all she can, but that's it), what of it?

I don't see us haring off to try to stop the Azure Alliance, or any number of other countries who have split off from the Empire.  :)

quote:
Again, you've got some very fuzzy memory here Sharp. It doesn't sound like you're joking either.

I've already said that striking any deal with Casus was not the best decision, and made it clear both in and out of roleplay on that.


This changes not the fact that I'm still boggled it even happened.  And I'm not pointing a finger directly at you, Avelyn.  This is just in general.

I'm boggled.  And I'm feeling badly at times that I've been playing Tasha, because had I been playing anyone else who had half a brain in their head and a good set of morals, I would have had to have them walk away at that point.  But that's part of the challange of playing Tasha.

quote:
However, here is what we did not do. We did not threaten Al Sheivan. We did not help Casus against Al Sheivan. We most certainly did not go after him based on anything Casus said.


Forgive me if my fuzzy memory picks it out that way, given we went after Al after we bumped into Casus and we made a deal with him, we hunted Al Sheivan, talked about him being a degenerate, discussed that he must be defeated, talked about attacking him (before you comment, these are all things that were actually said - again, I'm not pointing fingers directly at you, so please don't take it that way, this is a general comment on how we've been regarding Al), getting furious because we were 'tricked' by Al, feeling badly for the deaths of the murderous mercenaries (boggles yet again), wanting to defeat Al and his men (that was you, by the way), getting irked at Al for merely stopping Tasha from pursuing him, etc.

Then there's this:

"For all your noble talk and righteousness, since we met, not a single one of your followers has been harmed, while you have launched an unprovoked attack on mine. After we wiped out your attackers no less! Any distrust you encounter, you have invited upon yourself."

Actually, we were in the company of the dude whose people had murdered a whole bunch of his people, and we were pursuing him.  And his 'attack' on Tasha was basically 'okay, you're using some supernatural means of tracking me, stop that now.'

Dunno, that all doesn't come off as putting us in a good light.  :)

But okay, my bad, we didn't do it because of Casus.  I cop to that.  Apologies.

Tasha:
He's planning to create a fourth superpower that will significantly weaken the Empire's prospects for reunification. That's not necessarily *horrible* in a general sense by itself. It does make him Avelyn's long term enemy, a big one if she thinks him remotely up to the task, which she does.


And that's fair enough, for Avelyn.  :)  Given the state the world is in, I'm personally not surprised someone has come to this conclusion.

This message was last edited by the player at 13:28, Mon 31 Dec 2012.

Tasha
 player, 1859 posts
 My heart
 is a furnace
Mon 31 Dec 2012
at 12:54
Re: Out of Roleplay 8
Solomon Chastain:
Hey, Solomon got on OK with the guy too.  Al even said he'd be willing to talk further with him about his aims, if/when they met again.


I think this could be wise.

quote:
I don't think he was quite so happy with other members of the group though.  :(


I cannot imagine.  :)