Well, I'll be waiting for your comments; let's roll! :D

0.o .......... That is all

I don't get the reference I'm afraid, unless it's to do with school classes?

That, and it's also a musical interval. :)

Never heard of the musical one, and I didn't realise the sixth form for school was known outside of England :)

Internet does wonders for expanding one's cross-cultural knowledge. :)

And beside, given all the secrets lying around in this game, a bit of learning can only be of help, right? ;D

Just to clarify-

the Foxes and one Drakkar will be climbing the waterfall.  Rain, Snake, and Sun Feather will be exploring the underground river without any back-up.  Is that what Vyctar's suggesting?

I think Vyctar' asking if anyone else can breathe underwater for a long time, given Rain's comments. Snake's suggestion was IZahira goes alone while tghe rest reclaim the old camp and start getting info on the camps from returning Drakkarim

Not exactly. You're right on the first part, Rain, but on the second part, he's actually suggesting that Zahira explores the underground river on her own - unless one of you has the skills to do so in place of her - while the rest of you stand waiting near the lake, crafting a camp there.

Also, you might not know it in character, but Vyctar earlier suggested that you and Zahira might try to sneak past the Acolytes camp and search for the rest of his men - Vyctar is asking Sun Snake if they should wait for the two exploratory missions to be completed before making an attempt at doing that.

EDIT: well, double posted with Sun Snake - hopefully my clarification is still relevant. :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:37, Mon 15 Oct 2012.

Ooohh, new OOC thread. We're still rolling, yeay :D

And I hope to get back to posting this week. . .

No idea what climbing bonuses we get, but I'm assuming they won't modify a 0,1 nor 2 above a 5. Seems boringly unheroic to lose 9EP due to a non-plot essential climb, but there we go!

Could be worse.  Remember Swift Blade? ;)

It's a +2 from climbing equipment; somebody with Huntmastery would also get a +3, as climbing counts mong the reasonable uses of Hunting.

So no, without Huntmastery, your 2 would become only a 4, Sun Snake. You seem in need of some healing, don't you? :)

Rain seems to be better at physical activity than she thinks she is.

Perhaps her powers are making her grow stronger? ;D

I think Swift would get along well with Zahira.
She'd like her style, hehe ;)

When I get time I'll have Sun Snake point out the flaw in Zahira's showy-ness. :p

:) Which flaw?

It makes too much of a mess?


Waste of good fish-things that...
Anyone got any potatoes?  We can make chips to go with them :)  hehe.

No, you do need WP to hunt - but, a single roll could suffice for the entire group, and DC 6 is not that difficult for someone with Huntmastery, is it? ^_^

I never said it was a good flaw...

Dusk Rat, al of you have the Hunting skill - Swift Fox just has Huntmastery, that gives her a +3 bonus on such rolls, but everybody can hunt for food by paying 1 WP and beating a DC (4 if it's only one meal, 6 if it's for the entire group). And yes, you can use any of your other abilities to help with the roll... if you can suggest an appropriate way for it to work.

Ah, so I can't hunt without WP?
The DC isn't that difficult, no.  Unless the Dice Roller is in a sadistic mood again, hehe.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:00, Wed 17 Oct 2012.

Well, the spending WP for Hunting is a balancing factor. You see, if rolling for food didn't cost any WP, you would never attempt the group roll - you would just roll the single meal rolls, because they're easeir to make. Additionally, I can't really restrict the number of times you can hunt in a day, because that's not realistic... but then, you would be able to re-roll forever, until you beat the DC, making the entire purpose of the roll pointless. True, I might just solve all these problems with GM arbitrating, but I think a more standardized system is more fair for everybody involved. Thus, Hunting costs WP, and I can't make an exception... I'm sorry.

*falls out of chair laughing*
"Scowling Snake"...  I like it, hehe :)


Just working on a post now :)
This message was last edited by the player at 12:49, Thu 18 Oct 2012.

"Scowling snake, foxy sabre" is my new martial arts film

Or possibly suicidal Fox if you could see the other thread ;)

Yep. You lot have no idea the amount of crazy that can be contained in a single fox, believe me! ;D

Dusk Rat, I would allow you to have Brook help Swift Fox, which means transferring your +1 bonus to her, at a 2 WP cost... not sure if it'd be worth it, considered that Swift already has a much higher inherent bonus from her own skills, but since bonus accrue, I'll let it to the two of you to decide.

Sounds like he has too much WP to pump in to Huntmastery, Nexus and Battle magoc stunts. Give some to the rest of us!

Just checking, do I need multiple hunting attempts to find so many meals for the whole team if they're not searching for their own?
As in extra WP cost and rolls needed? :)

Post is up, I'm off to Spanish to do the second day of my midterm. Be back in about an hour and a half. :)

If you're looking for full-group meals, rather than only one for you, then the only difference is an increase of the DC by 2. You make just one roll at a DC 2 higher, and you find enough food for the whole team.

Of course, the balancing factor is that, if you fail, you won't be allowed to try again like you would for a normal hunting roll - the normal hunting roll failing means you failed an attempt, the "whole group" failing means the area doesn't contain enough food for you to properly feed off.

You're in a woodland area, so DC is 4 for normal hunting, 6 for group hunting. Not that hard, is it? ^_^

And Sun Snake, I was under the impression that I just very recently filled all of your stats back to the maximum? What more could you want? ;P

WP is the currency of creativity and roleplaying - you can't have too much!


Edit: Also, is it too sad for me to wish we had 20,000 more posts right now?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:12, Thu 18 Oct 2012.

Urgh, I'd rather not spend more WP - it comes back so slowly and we know we're in a dangerous area, or getting close to one. I'd rather not spend any if I have to...

:) Then I suggest you leave it up to Swift - she has pretty good modifiers, it'd not be very hard for her to pull off the hunt.

As for the falcon and finding things lunch-shaped, the problem is that he doesn't know prey from predator here! Also, he's afraid of the eagles. They'd eat him. :)

Yep, but Swift is very protective of her new friend.  And she isn't afraid of eagles.  (In fact if she can shoot one down with her bow, would it count as a meal?  hehe) :)

It would be plenty good to eat - just a bit disrespectful of the mascto animal of Sommerlund... Shark would approve. ;)

Just my luck.  Rolled a 1.
Can I use an FP to reroll?  (Got an 8 for the second one.  Just wanted to check it was allowed first).

Ah, I had no idea there were eagles around - where was that mentioned? Did I miss it? Wow, I'm glad I haven't let my fuzzles go running around...

Well, they live near the mountains, and you're going in that direction; it wasn't too relevant, and I think even an eagle would have trouble spotting a small mouse under the cover of trees.

And yes, Swift Fox, you can spend the FP to reroll - which means you just hunted your lunch and dinner. Well done! ^_^

Why do I suddenly feel like ive bitten off more than I can chew :(

Because you have, of course. You're walking along the path that was meant for the full group; it's only natural that you're in over your head!

Either Sabre has found a nest of Kraan or something, or he's simply attacked Sun Fox for the Sommerswerd and is realising he's not invincible :)

This path was meant for the full group???!!! 0.0

Probably, you were only supposed to scout the way to see if it was an alternative route. If Sun Fox has pushed you onwards, then that's just the GM trying to get you to kill yourself off I suppose!


Like if you had scouted the Agarashi route to the end on your own I guess.



Still, look on the bright side, if you succeed, you'll probably level up again right away by the sounds of it. And if you can get Sun Fox killed, you'll get the Sommerswerd! :D

Also, the Rain Feather stuff is touching. Unless she's then putting 'she thought sarcastically as she plotted their deaths' in private lines to the GM after all her statements.

Not that anyone would put private lines to the GM explaining the character's thought processes ever. That just seems like it's covering up for dishonest and evil intent...

<.<
>.>
O.O

Third post - Ls, is it your birthday today? Happy birthday if so!

In reply to Sun Snake (msg # 46):

That doesn't sound suspicious at all, Sun Snake! And beside, who would ever do it? ^_^

Also, I wasn't aware it was Shark birthday today, but if it is, I join in wishing her to be well. :)

Yeah, no-one would ever do that.  Not even if their character had a tendency to hide her true thoughts so much that they needed explaining.  Can't imagine anyone would have a character who would hide things from her friends like that though...

*whistles innocently and quickly changes the subject*

Oh yeah, happy birthday Shark!  If indeed it is your birthday :)

=O

Was shocked then remembered it probably popped up on the Aon site. . .

Aye, I think I'm officially "late 20's" now. /sad face.

Also I found a white hair in the shower this morning. It was. . . ironic?

Thanks! :D

All these characters so honest and forward in sharing their secrets and helping their fellows... I'm proud of you all! ;D

And don't worry Shark, late '20 still sounds pretty young to me! ^_^

Late 20s isn't so bad.  I'm in the mid 30s now, and my life feels like it's on permanent fast-forward...  Days feel much shorter than I remember them being for some reason :(

You have many more days to compare them to! And I'll bet your days aren't as varied as they used to be when much younger.

I always theorized it was 'cause each day is a smaller portion of your life thus far, so they seem shorter. It makes sense in my head. . .

But yours sounds legit to, Beo!

Went to a Gaelic Storm concert. Those folks know how to throw a concert! Now I'm listening to all manner of bands I used to love. . . . ah, its been a good 27 years.

Well, couldn't it be a bit of both? ^_^

Also, I'm not sure if I should feel intimidated right now... it seems like I'm still the little kid of this group, being younger than everybody else. Should I worry? ;)

Hehe I think the same thing as you, Shark, about time being a smaller proportion of your life as you get older. So when you're four, a year is a whole quarter of your life, which is frigging massive. When you're eighty-four, that's a teeny-tiny little fragment, comparatively speaking. So the older you get, the faster stuff such as Christmas seems to come around, whereas when you're younger it seems to take forever. Bleh, I'm gonna be thirty in a couple of years. I'm getting older but I'm trying not to grow up too much - I don't plan on forgetting what it was like to be a kid and so become all boring and serious all the time. I don't mind arsing about a bit, giggling ridiculously, and generally having childish fun playing games and stuff :D.

Nah, don't worry, we're all quite friendly.

Just stay off my lawn!  *shakes cane at you*  hehe ;)



I definitely miss being young though.  back in the days when I still had hopes and dreams that seemed possible...

Maybe that's why my characters are always young.  I'm yearning to be that way again :)
(Besides I first discovered the LW and Fighting Fantasy books when I was young, so I'm feeling all nostalgic for my younger adventuring days.  Oh the stories I could tell of my days exploring far-off lands, discovering great treasures and slaying evil monsters...)  :)
This message was last edited by the player at 11:46, Fri 19 Oct 2012.

Place holder update in Fox's thread is done Shadow

Thanks for letting me know, Sabre Fox! ^_^

As for when I saterted to read Lone Wolf, Swift, the first book I ever read through was a borrowed version of Dawn of the Dragons... it took me some time to hunt down the earlier numbers, and only when I got to P. Aon did I was able to play through it all. So I guess in that sense, I'm a much younger fan that most others here! ;P

Dawn of the Dragons is actyually JD's favourite book, so there you go!

I find it entertaining, and one of the best books in the GM series, but after having read them all, my favourite is actually #12; I explained that I first read #18 to clarify at which point in time I first met the Lone Wolf gamebooks as a whole. :)

What about you all? What is your favourite Lone Wolf gamebook?

Posh! My mum went back and finished graduate school in her 40s, and now, in her 50s, she's getting a degree in some sort of translational medicine/scientists talk to medical people thing.

'tis never to late to go for your dreams :)

Books 2, 5 and 12 are my favourites...I think I have a special place in my heart most :)


And lol, I never feel as old as I am, so there you go (maturity wise :D  )

It's one of the reasons why the Legacy crew is effectively travelling that way. The choice of movement in book 18 felt so natural that I felt it justice to repeat such an experience :)

Lol, you're asking me what my favourite gamebook/Lone Wolf book is? ;)

You then just need to read them all to give us your opinion, Dusk Rat! ^_^

And Snake, I mostly agree with you - 12 is my overall favourite, but after it, the 5 is probably the best one, followed by the 1 & 2 (which I see as a single story), 7, 10 and 18.

I liked them all! =D Favorites though. . . I dunno, which ever the last one I did was pretty great (I think it was 12? or 10? I don't remember. That was like 2 years ago now! Yikes!)

When I have a life outside of grant writing again I should read the rest. . .

when ever that happens.

PS. We're nearing the 1yr anniversary of this game! What an accomplishment, 'tis fantastic!

Wow, seriously? It's been nearly a year already?!? When did it start, then? It doesn't feel like a year...although I suppose I spent quite a lot of the time not actually posting anything :D.

According to the "Game Rules" thread, the game first post was made the 16 of november, so yeah, we're one month from this game first anniversary. :)

Shark, the last you played through if I remember right was 9, the one where Lone Wolf fights Zahakan Khima - that is, unless you started reading the others on your own.

The book 9 is a good one, I think, but one thing that keeps it from being as good is that, in the Book, beating Khima in combat has, like, a 5% or so possibility of happen - is among the top three hardest fights in the series, and having a combat so difficult robs the game of a little of its charm. :)

Damn. And I bitch about a 12% success :P (this happened in another game, it was actually for a 6-round fear check, too. I failed! My horse did not.)

Horses are trusty animals. :)

But yeah, to make matter clear, the best CS that can be had in that battle is a -4, and that only after making optimal choice over the previous three books and owning some one-of-a-kind items from the previous ones, you reach the battle at the end of a grueling siege section that gives you no chance to heal, and just before the battle you receive a 8 END wound - and Khima has about twice your END at that point. It's literally a fight from hell.

Although winning it gives a satisfaction that must be felt, really; it makes it all worth it in the end! ^_^

It helps that Kimah is the guy who lived back from book 5...you'rte just itching to kill him and make him eat that Orb of Death he betrayed you for!


Thoguh LS had even more reason to hate him n the MSN playthrough!

I'd say Dawn of the Dragons is my favourite too, purely for the tense feeling of being on a huge continent-hopping race against time, while practically everyone you meet on the way is out to get you (the bow shop owner was a particularly unpleasant surprise the first time I played it!) :)

I really wish the female Lone Wolf adventures had continued, mostly because I was really itching to see what Zipp would have made of the antagonist in Book 19 (trying to avoid spoilers for anyone who hasn't read it yet).
Zipp did some really nice work building up the NPCs and antagonists to be more than they appeared in the books, and I really don't think Joe Dever made full use of the potential of the Book 19 villain.
I think Zipp's version would have been some serious high-octane nightmare fuel considering everything LW went through up to that point in his game :)  Could have made the Zakhan Kimah fight look like a pleasant little chat over tea and scones, hehe.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:11, Fri 19 Oct 2012.

Honestly... 8's always going to be special for me- I found a copy of "The Jungle of Horrors" in my middle school's lost and found box at the end of my sixth-grade year, and never looked back.  I found a few more of the pieces to the series over the next year, but then I literally hit the jackpot- finding a set of books 1 through 14 at the local Goodwill for five dollars.

I still find old character sheets on occasion when I go through my old writing notebooks and game notes... :)

As for book 19... (spoiler ahead, don't view if you don't want to read!)

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Rain Feather came about as a result of imagining what Wolf's Bane would have been like in the FLW adventures.  Attitude, views, everything.  I was almost ready to ask Zipp if he wanted someone to play Wolf's Bane live, too. *blushes*  Once I saw that the adventures had fallen through, well... I kept the character idea around and worked on it when I joined this game.  Changed the hair color, added the past, and went psychic-and-magic based instead of physical.  Kept the attitude, but at the same time, also made a faint glimmer for her to possibly redeem herself if she wanted to.

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Book 19 was filled with potential, yes... and I feel it kind of wasted it. Still, that's why we play these games, isn't it? To realize the hidden potential? :D

Lol, I'm assuming Rain Feather is playing Zahira and on our side, rather than the other way around :D A dangerous game either way!
This message was last edited by the player at 18:22, Sat 20 Oct 2012.

It might upset Foxy of she really is going turncoat :(

Hmm, now I'm curious to see what Rain Feather is planning there... :)
Assuming she doesn't run into something nasty in that cave first!

Also the spoiler bit was intriguing.
I never noticed that about Rain.  She's definitely an interesting character though.  I hope she makes it all the way to the end, just to see how she turns out :)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:15, Sat 20 Oct 2012.

Indeed, it's interesting to see how the character's personality came about!

I don't think Zahira will mind being used as a meat shield here, will she? :)  hehe.
Besides, she might get angry and kill whatever it is for you.

I got this mental image of Zahira triggering a massive rock fall onto herself, then just shaking them off and going "Heehee, that tickles!" :)

Meanwhile, I think conversation dried up before it even began with Team Toran...
Now we're just waiting to see if we get eaten during the night :)

Team Toran can't speak to each other for five minutes and Team Maakengorge can't stay together for five minutes :D


"Woohoo! We're finally back together! Quick, let's split up again! Wait a minute...I appear to have a few NPCs around...quick, let's split up from them too / send them off to their rocky deaths!"


Team Maakengorge needs to be in a horror game not an adventure game. Or a Scooby Doo game, I guess :D


Given Laughing Shark's talkative nature and ability to separate from the group, I'm naming her an honourary Maakengorge member now, For all we know, she's closer to there than Toran anyway!

This was just be embarrassing if Rain Feather located Lone Wolf here, wouldn't it? :D

I'm glad her thread is the visible one!

Why would it be embarassing, Sun Snake?

Also, for the Toran team: before moving you forward, I'm awaiting for confirmation that you're taking no measures - no sending rats, no trying magic, no cutting down trees and going to check - about the creature Dusk Rat felt in the woods. Once that's confirmed, I'll be able to update. :)

Erm, didn't I say I'd be okay sending the fuzzles? If I detect anything weird nea them I'll call them back. Can Brook go too or would he have trouble negotating the twisty root thingys?

Brook wouldn't be able to get through, yes.

I thought you'd just asked but not actually sent them, Dusk Rat - I'll have them get back and give you an update shortly then.

Well Swift was planning to stay awake and watchful until someone took over the watch.
If none of the others would, she'd likely stay up all night...

Just think about it, the others blissfully snoozing away while Swift is watching over them, alone with her (possibly homicidal) thoughts and slowly going even crazier from sleep deprivation.
Do you really want that? ;) hehe

It would make for an interesting development at least! ;)

Ah the problem with not posting IC for a month. . . I forgot what I was up too. . .

EDIT: And my IC post was post number 11500! Whoo!
This message was last edited by the player at 23:51, Tue 23 Oct 2012.

You were up to creating confusion and sowing chaos, as usual for you, Shark. :)

Awww, I guess Rain found the mother.

:) The mother of what?

The mother of pie.

I'd assume it was the mother of those things Zahira wiped out earlier, hence why it's after her for revenge.

Rain Feather giving it a migraine earlier probably didn't help! :)

You were right, Swift Fox, of course... though perhaps the migrain did helped; I'll let it to Rain to judge on that point. :)

Toran team, I'll be waiting for you to confirm me how the turns are going to be handled before updating you - and I'd like for Frost to chime in, as well, in case he wanted to get a share of the watch. ;D

Looks like Rain got herself a creepy fangirl :)  hehe

I think I was lucky to beat that one... I was tempted to reroll that first attack, but I have one FP left... and I want to save that for a possible insta-death roll.

Close calls aren't good :(

Anyway, time to discover the new eggs and have Zahira want to smash them all I guess!

Why aren't close calls good? They make everything more exciting! :D

Wow, I jokingly called it :( Oh well, so I guess Lone Wolf is dead then, and our team found him and won! Or something, I@m a little bit fuzzy o

Hmm, and let's see if Sun Snake was paranoid or not, or if showing the Seeing Stone to another powerful magic user is a bad idea or not...

Good thing Zahira didn't recognise the body...

Edit: Oops, nm, it was the Seeing Stone she asked about, not Lone Wolf's body.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:31, Thu 25 Oct 2012.

Indeed, Zahira was reacting to the Seeing Stone; in fact, she was rather unsurprised by Lone Wolf's body, all things considered. Of course, there's actually no reason why she should know whom body she's seeing, either. :)

Oh dear 0.o More developments. I have a feeling that the separate threads are all gonna come together! lol

Sabre Fox and Sun Fox are going to fall through the roof  on to the eggs, are they? :) At least Sun Snake is being sensible and doing nothing untoward.

Sun Fox will be mighty upset though :(

You don't know the half of it, Sabre Fox. :)

Team Maakengorge will stay true to form by coming together for a brief moment and them probably fall apart once more!

Is this the point where Sun Fox's mind snaps and she goes on a crazed murdering rampage forcing the others to fight her? :)

No fair though!  That was the same plan I had for Swif... Err, I mean, sounds ok to me... ;)

I daresay Sun Fox#s reaction and future plans will be far more ywisted than that.


Funny, I've just realised what Sun Snake's reaction will be. A pretty obvious one, but it might actually take him by surprise...

I wonder if anyone can predict Swift's reaction when she finds out...

Might be interesting :)

Lone Wolf's body!? What!?!!

Wrong time to tune into the OOC Thread! :o

Hmm yeah, that might have been a bit of a spoiler for anyone not following Team Snake's antics...  :(

Well not entirely an unexpected development, considering the situation the game started out with.
Opens the way for more political shenanigans back at the Monastery now...

Well I think there was always the option that Lone Wolf was actually going to be alive as a twist and that keeping him alive from people trying to take advantage of a new institution would be the focus.

Anyway, Zahira's sudden caring for the wellbeing of a body makes me nervous.

You never know, he might be half dead with Nexus giving his Deliverance time to heal? 0.o

I don't think that should stop us from seeking vengence and KILLING THEM ALL! ALL!

...you go first, Sabre :)

And sounds like Zahira might get more than she bargained for at the end of this.


Still a little too much caring for the sanctity of a corpse for my liking...

Maybe she likes corpses...  (too much!)  (O.o)

Hmm, if Lone Wolf's dead, is the plus side that we get to take his place and go to sunny Ixia? Assuming we survive our present three-way predicaments....

That would depend on where the Deathstaff ends up being, isn't it? ;D

Ooh, I'd totally missed that connection! Is that what the Deathlord has in TDoIxia?

Yeah, I wondered about that.  Since it was the power of the Deathstaff that "woke up" the Deathlord in that one, the whole Ixia thing could probably be prevented if the Deathstaff was destroyed here.

Not sure about the events of "Dawn of the Dragons" though.
And someone still has to get the Moonstone back from Naar.  Before giving it back to the Shianti.
I could go on...
Busy future ahead for the Kai :)

Well, my idea is that the Moonstones will never make it to Naar's hand, but that's just me - you're all free to imagine the future to be whichever you want. :)

Is not like there isn't plenty of evil for the Kai still to fight in Magnamund, after all! ^_^

Yeah, I don't think it was ever explained how Naar got hold of the Moonstone.
(Although I'd guess the disappearance of Grey Star, hinted at in the New Order series has something to do with it, since he was the last one to find it.  Can't remember what he did with it though, need to play those ones again sometime).

I believe Grey Star threw the Moonstone back in the Daziarn. That's supposedly where Naar got it from, although how he did it was never explained.

Ah, the one where, having got a lift in a flying ship out to the far west of the continent, Lone Wolf has to walk back. :)

Isn't that a question to be asnwered in the forthcoming Lone Wolf books? I do not recall the Moonstone being mentioned at the end of Grey Star as being cast out (been a while since I read them, the books are back at my mun's house) and I haven#t really done more than scan through the book where the NO GM returns the Moonstone.

Of course, both are on PA to check, I guess!



And poor Rain Feather, she's about to get questions by a powerful critter on very little EP! Be careful Rain!

I think I've figured it out...

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Think back to the end of the GS and LW series. The Moonstone's been banished to the Daziarn, so Grey Star recovers it and brings it back to this side.  He ends up using it to seal the portal that the big bad in his series uses to try to exchange himself so Agarash the Damned can return to Magnamund- he ends up chucking the Moonstone into Naar's realm to buy enough time to seal the portal.  That's how Naar gets it, I think. 

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Ok, I'm just going to leave this O.O here for no reason.... no reason at all...

Ah ok :)

Yeah, it's been a while since I played the Grey Star ones, and I was focusing more on not dying in those ones, since there's never enough WP when you need it.
(Kind of like on here!  hehe)

Also I'm definitely interested in where this little chat between Rain and Zahira is going... :)

:) So, what do you all think of the dragon's look?

It's just how I imagined it.  Like part of the forest itself.
Very nice :)

I actually kind of suspected that breaking up part of its carefully arranged tree wall there wouldn't exactly make us welcome.
But as Swift I couldn't really think of another way in, and besides that probably wouldn't have occurred to her.  She just sees a barrier she needs to get through :)

Well, Dusk Rat hasn't gotten aten so far, so you can assume the dragon has a cool enough temper, at least! ;)

Oh damn a dragon in the mix now?! Bah, Shark's in the dull thread!

That was your choice though - beside, you'll have stuff to do soon enough, I hope... it's just a matter of getting through the Cloak and Dagger stuff, really. :)

If it's any consolation, Swift would rather be in your thread.
She feels a bit unappreciated in this one ;)  hehe.

She's got a cloak and several daggers, so would fit nicely!

I feel like I need to make a flow chart or something. I can't keep up with it all :S

Yay! Dusk Rat got to speak with a Dragon! Watch out, she'll want to ride it if you let her :p

Plagiarism! 0.0

Dragons are my thing in Legacy ;)

Bah, I'd written an entire campaign based on dragons. Clearly the dragons are MY idea.

Dragons are in the public domain, aren't they? ;)

That said, this one dragon is a tree-lover one; that makes it unique enough so that it doesn't interfere with yours, right? ^_^

Tree-hugger hippie dragon! :)  hehe.

Hey, I had a dragon that was actually plantlife (corrupting magic, twisted form, yadda yadda) and Ameena faced off against it, so I call double plagerism!

Well, mine is friendly, so it's different, right? :P

If it's not trying to strange everyone with its root feet, suffocate them in noxious gas, and basically has a hatred from pain, then yup, completely different :D

Bah! I wish it'd woken up sooner when the Vakeros set half the forest on fire, then he might be toast himself. :)

:) It was some distance away, and outside the area the dragon is protecting... but yeah, that would have been fun to see!

Although, I think at the time it would have felt a bit like a Deux ex Machina, don't you agree? ;D

If it killed the Vakeros it's a Deux Ex Machina. If it's ANOTHER dangerous thing to navigate that could kill everyone, then it's just good old fashioned entertainment.

Maybe it wouldn't know exactly who was responsible for setting fire to half the forest, so just decided to kill everyone in the area?
That's what I'd do if someone woke me up early by trying to set my house on fire :)

:)

But would it be Deus ex machina if the dragon was always there and happened to kill the Vakeros but not FF, because in their tussle the Vakeros had ignored the sanctity of nature in order to try and kill FF, whereas FF had done nothing against nature in trying to escape? As far as I understand it, FF would have to have had absolutely no chance of surviving his encounter with the Vakeros unless something completely unknown intervened for such an intervention to be Deus ex machina. Not that - had that happened - FF would have had any way of knowing whether or not he might have survived regardless, but as it was, he did.

It would nevertheless have seemed like a dubious way of saving FF. And talk of Deus ex machina reminds me of why I - regretfully - gave up on Doctor Who, and why I wish I'd managed to catch up with it once Steven Moffat took it over. Still want to do that.

At the very least watch 11th hour, gthe first one! Unless you have, in which case...watch it again :)

I liked that one :)
The 11th Doctor does have some cool moments.
He's kind of crazy like the 4th one, but with a hint of a dark side like the 7th :)

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs7...y_FranGipani6181.jpg

Is that the first Matt Smith one? I liked that, but it was the only one I saw - Saturday evening didn't use to be a good time to catch things. I don't want to start part way through his tenure, so I do indeed need to at some point watch that one again and keep going in order.



Sounds wonderful! I've always regretted that Sylvester McCoy's Doctor was cut off in his prime - that 26th (I think) Series was taking him and Ace somewhere really interesting. There were hints at darkness when the Doctor eventually returned, but I didn't notice it really coming to anything for as long as I was watching. I imagine that under Steven Moffat, proper, interesting storytelling has returned.

Yep.
Technically "The End of Time" was his first one, since that was when he first appeared for about a couple of minutes.  But he only really got let loose in "The Eleventh Hour" and showed his crazy side a bit.
(I loved the bit where he was trying all the different foods in Amy's house, hehe) :)

Yeah, Steven Moffat wrote some of the creepiest episodes.  Like "Blink", that was one of his.
I've never looked at angel statues the same way since...

Oh yes, that was brilliant! I don't know what series that was, but I remember that being one of only a small handful that was any good. Such a shame, because David Tennant was great, but nearly every episode of his that I saw was really disappointing. But with the bloke responsible for Blink (and The Empty Child and The Girl in the Fireplace and so on) in charge, I can only think it's way better than it used to be. And one day the DVDs'll be cheap and I'll catch up. :)

Doctor Who's sometime Saturday replacement seems to be Merlin, which I've only just seen a couple of episodes of recently and I'm not sure what to make of it. Certainly not blown me away, but looks like it could be good. Anyone know if it has been better in the past, if it's patchily good or if it's always the same?

Not sure if it's better.  I like it.  Though there's a friend of mine who refuses to watch any of Matt Smith's episodes 'cos she doesn't like the way he plays the Doctor and thinks that David Tennant leaving and him taking over was the worst thing that ever happened to the series.
Can't please everyone I suppose :)  hehe.

I don't know about Merlin.  I never got into that one.
I haven't had any TV reception for the past year now so I'm kind of out of touch with everything.

Yikes. Is that a technical problem or did you move to the middle of nowhere? But you have internet? I suppose no TV is quite healthy in a way, and most of it could easily be done without, but I'd struggle without the BBC (and its repeats on Dave :) ).

Sorry for the disappearance, had to get the laptop un-screwed.  Back now, so everything should be good. :)

Really should think about a new laptop- this thing's a dinosaur...

In reply to Frost Ferret (msg # 156):
Nah, in recent years we've been getting really strong winds every winter here.  Last year they almost reached hurricane speeds for a night.  Blew up one of the turbines at the local windfarm and caused a lot of damage to house roofs and fences.
It also ripped my satellite dish right off the wall, the one I put up because my aerial got demolished by the previous years' storms.

Basically it's not worth replacing them every year.  Also it's nice not having to pay the licence fees for some of the reality show junk they put on now.
They should be paying me to watch that rubbish!


Welcome back Rain :)
Nice having an un-screwed laptop.

Good to be back.  That huge storm didn't help anything, either.  It's been cold and blustery here for the last few days- made the mistake of going out to class with wet hair and felt like my head was an ice cube for three hours.  Not a fun way to sit through Spanish class, with your activity partner wondering "Does she have the flu?  I really hope she's not sick, I can't afford to get sick..." when I'm sitting there shivering...

Ouch.  Frozen heads aren't fun :(

I wonder if Snake is listening in there ;)  hehe.

Merlin is cool - I've been watching it since it started :). I think this series is the fifth, with more to come. If you haven't watched it before, might be an idea to start from the beginning, since it is an ongoing story and a lot of stuff has changed about various characters since it started.

I'm also up to date with Doctor Who and looking forward to whatever's gonna happen at Christmas. :D

Anyone been following Red Dwarf?

I didn't know Red Dwarf was still going.  Thought its popularity kind of died out with the last series when they tried to bring back the rest of the crew.
I'd heard something a few years ago about them working on a movie, but never heard anything else.  Dunno what happened with that.

Is it still going?



I'm wondering what Zahira would make of Swift Fox if they met, hehe :)
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The PBS station here used to carry a few episodes late at night, but I haven't seen it lately.  Might try and Netflix for it, it may be up there.

You didn't know they're showing a new series of Red Dwarf? Aaahhh, they are! Episode four just finished twenty minutes ago! The "bringing back the rest of the crew" thing was Series VIII. That was years back. Then a couple of years ago was a mini-series called Back to Earth. It...wasn't so good. Now we have Red Dwarf X (dunno whether they'll make a Red Dwarf IX at some point to fill in the gap, lol), which has been showing on Dave at 9pm every Thursday evening for the past month. It's been good so far :).

Nope, didn't know about that.  Been out of touch with what's on TV lately :)


*peers at Rain Feather...*
ooo, that looks like the guy Swift saw in Toran.  He gets around, doesn't he? :)
Might need Zahira to do her mass destruction thing here...

If he goes for the throat, I am more than a little doomed, I think.  He's geared for a battle, and Rain might be strong psychically, but she's going to run out of juice pretty soon.  If Zahira can't handle him, Rain doesn't stand a chance in hand-to-hand.

I've been dubious about Red Dwarf X since giving up twenty minutes into Back to Earth (which I assume they're counting - somewhat unreasonably - as series 9), but your assessment makes it sound worth watching. I think my brother's been recording them anyway.

Yeah, I was wondering whether Merlin was worth going back to the start with. Question about it: based on only two episodes admittedly, while the relationship between the two main characters is entertaining, they seem to be so good and honourable as to be neither corruptable nor capable of bad or misguided judgement, meaning that the dilemmas that they're placed in lack tension, because it seems obvious they will always make the good, right choice. Has that always been the case or is my two episode snapshot misleading?

Cue dramatic battle! Im just hoping that Haaxadrom will stand with Rain Feather :/ Then again, it brings up concern, that post read from Zahira that the power source they required may infact by Lone Wolfs body if im not mistaken? Upon re reading, it could mean the intention of them searching separately was to find his body from Rain Feather. Either way, Zahira could be in trouble :)

Unless she is a Helghast imbuded with Right-Hand magic as it seems :(

Merlin - yeah, after five seasons the main characters need to be wise, but they still make kmistakes, especially arthur. In fact it's been hinted that his nature - maybe even his compassion - may be his undoing. The early stuff has uther as king, who is an interesting 'villain', morgana on the side of good, and merlin and arthur much younger - so more prone to may]ke mistakes, especially arthur as an arrogant bully :)

Red dwarf - yeah, hear good things too, but I only hve my comp, so can't get Dave unless anyone tells me otherwise. Need to wait for the DVDs I guess!

Lone WOlf#s body - yeah, remember that time when Sun Snake started mentioning bodies in a distracted way then laughed hysterically? Though were good times...

Rain's thread - very cool post! I'm really hoping not your last, at least the dice roller threw a few very good rolls at you to balance the 4s. Kinda keeping up reading stuff in off moments. Good luck Rain!  Don't die!

Well at very least it seems that Haaxadrom isnt dead. And he has already intoned the Flaming Blade ;)

As the good rolls Rain made, I doubt its gonna be that easy against Zahira. Pity that the Sommerswerd is elsewhere :(

About the only attack I have against her is the Blue Crystal Ring and my mind attacks.  I'm hoping for 7's and 8's on rolls- hopefully that 8 will allow the mind attack to stick and keep Zahira from attacking for three rounds, so Haxadrom can stack some damage on her.  I just hope he takes half the damage- if I go toe-to-toe, it's been nice knowing you guys.

Are the others out of range though?  Might try sending a psychic call for help to Sun Fox.  Just a thought :)

I really hope you get to kick some undead butt after that little speech though.  Very nice post :)
Also Hax turns out to be a good guy after all?  Who knew? :)  (Hope someone tells that to Swift before they meet up.  She still thinks it would be safer to kill him on sight.  Or try to anyway!)

...has the Vakeros (who you can't be sure is actually Haxadrom) actually done anything that means he's not an enemy, except attacking the creature that was the bigger threat and taking advantage of the rift between you?

Good point...  Hmm.
Oh well, better to kill him anyway, just to be on the safe side! ;)

Yeah, he's maybe having second thoughts, but that just means that anyone who knows about his trechery will be killed doubly quick to cover it all up!


After all, the SOB sent a squad of Gourgaz to kill Sun Fox and the Kai, then kept the weapons. Unless he has a helper, or unless he was so negligent as to leave them and they attacked alone. But I doubt it.

You might find you need to play both sides in a war of attrition Rain. Or, you know, just run....


Plus if Vyctar wasn't lying about LW's body being the power source, that means somehow LW is being used to power the abominations, and perhaps that's why the Vakeros is here right now. Maybe even Valador is not far behind (staff teleporting anyone)


All in all, so not out of the woods.


Good thing Sun Snake isn't doing anything foolish right now. Nor Sabre. I'm sure all the other Kai are alive and well and stuff.

I hope Valador is there.  It'll give Swift Fox some time to find and loot his house ;)  hehe.

(oops, did I just say that out loud?  *tries to look innocent*)

Shouldn't you be worried about the dragon right now?

Sorry, didn't have time to get on here yesterday... In response to Frosty about Red Dwarf and Merlin...

Red Dwarf - Back to Earth isn't Series IX - it takes place after Series X. This is mentioned in Back to Earth. So they do still need to make a Series IX at some point ;). Red Dwarf X is more like the earlier series, say V or so, where they're travelling around having random encounters with stuff or generally getting on each other's nerves with their various character traits :). And there's audience laughter too - the lack of it in Back to Earth felt "wrong" to me.

Merlin - Yes, the good guys do make mistakes. That's been the central focus of some episodes, especially for Arthur, but sometimes for Merlin as well. Sometimes one of them will have two different people offering them advice on how to solve a situation and end up taking the wrong advice (even if it was offered by a friend and not someone intentionally trying to persuade them to do the wrong thing). The rest of the episode (and often future episodes, not necessarily those immediately following that one) then tends to deal with the consequences of that decision. If certain characters hadn't made certain decisions, things would have turned out differently. I don't recall if you said which episode(s) you'd seen, but they were recent ones, right? Well, the characters mostly started out in very different positions to where they are in the current episodes. Morgana may be the best example of this. The characters aren't "static" - they have changed and evolved over the series. Arthur, for example, was a bit of a bullying twat at the beginning, though he did show signs of being honourable and stuff. Now he's grown, become more "mature", and tends to (try to) do the honourable stuff all the time. He still likes hitting Merlin with stuff though ;).

Sorry, Toran Team - I'd made a quite considerable mistake in writing my last post - you might want to read it again, as it should be much clearer this time. Sorry for everybody.

Would you be willing to let me get away with a loud "burst" of psychic power- pretty much a call for help?  If the winner of this little fight decides they have a bone to pick with me, well... I'm not going to last three rounds in combat.

Even if I was to allow something like that, nobody is close enough that they would reach you before you were forced into the fight. So, given that it would both be pointless, and it's outside your powers (you haven't even Divination, let alone Spirit Walking or even just Telepathy!), I really can't allow it.

If you want, though, you could just run the way the Vakeros came from while the two of them are fighting it out; you could even bring Lone Wolf along, if you wanted to. Should that be the route that you wish to walk, I'll be willing to let you modify your last post and turning it into an escape post; it's your choice.

However, if you're staying to fight, than you're staying for what happens after the fight too; you really can't have it both ways. The decision is yours, Rain, but you do have to choose - I'm afraid that, in this instance, I really can't grant you a third option.

Let me know, ok?
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I'm sticking it out.  In for a penny, in for a pound.  Besides, even if I do die, at least I told off Zahira, so that's a plus.

Not to mention I still have two ring charges and enough WP for a few more attacks.

As you wish then! ^_^

I'm in a decent mood.  The local hobby shop has had the next seven volumes of my favorite manga in stock for what seems like forever, but i couldn't bring myself to pay twelve dollars each for them...

...but something inside was nagging at me to stop in when I went shopping today, and it's a good thing I did.  The hobby shop put all its old manga on clearance.

Guess who came home with $80 worth of manga for $28? :D

:) Now that's a great stroke of luck!

If I may pry, would it be too personal for you to reveal which Manga this one is? As always, I'm very curious. ^_^

Ai Yori Aoshi.  It's older, but I'm a sucker for a good romance.  Found volumes 9 through 15, and finally found a volume of the original Eureka Seven manga.  Now I have to start collecting that- it's one of my favorite series. :)

Since its now established it is infact Lone Wolf they wanted that brings up two possibilities. Either they wanted it as a trophy, the 'power source' wouldnt actually have any magical power as it were. It would be a symbol to the free nations that Lone Wolf was infact killable and might be a rallying cry for the Drakkarim to gain allies and might even give the Nadzaranim a reason to back down when they invade.

Second, they may want to make him something like a Helghast 0.0 After all with Zahira, it may be that she was infact part human with a Helghast inhabiting the body as a protoytpe with how strong she is.

Either way, its not good :(

Did they say that it was tied in to the creatures seen around? Or just the 'power source' would be used to combat the creatures seen around?


And Merlin just had one of those 'characters make questionable decisions' thingies yesterday, so even in series five they still make mistakes :) Though they missed the chance to have people yell at Arthur about using old magic!

He said that he was looking for the power source that had been used to create the creatures. Of course, he was lying when he said that; it's probably the only straight lie he's told so far. All the rest - like Zahira pointed out - were more half-truths, carefully worded sentences, and occasional omissions.

As to the extent of that lie, and what that implies, fee free to discuss about it here in the OOC thread... but remember, none of your character knows it was not true, so I'll be expecting none of you to suddenly realize it unless they got some really big new information to make them realize the connection.
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Well the reason I brought it up was to make sure if Sun Snake made that accusation it was not from faulty logic on the player's part, so as far as I was concerned Sun Snake cannot see the connection of Lone Wolf's body being the power source - indeed, when he discovers where the body was found, he'll know it isn't - and so would have challenged the statement as a lie anyway

Assuming he's still alive, of course

Aww, Zahira's dead :( In a way, very sad. Also, we might be very, very screwed with Vyc now.

The good news is Rain Feather isn't being instantly murdered by the Vakeros, so that's cool!

Don't speak too soon... her life is hanging on a very thin thread. Rain and Zahira together might have been able to otufight the Vakeros and escape him, but I think I made it pretty clear that he's a lot stronger than any of you could singularly be in a fight, with the only possible exceptions being Sabre Fox and Laughing Shark. In a straight up fight, he's supposed to take a full team to be brought down - and to be an hard fight, at that. Of course, straight fights are not the only way to deal with threats...

Also, I'm happy you found Zahira's death somewhat sad; I hoped you would. She was a pretty fun character to write, and her very existance is central to a major theme this game has, so I felt it necessary to give her a worthy death scene.

Aww, that was kind of a sad ending for Zahira :(

Hopefully the Vakeros won't decide to do the same thing to Rain Feather now too.

On the plus side, maybe Sabre Fox will get that duel with Vyctar he wanted after all ;)

Huh. Weird. Deliberately skipping to 10 before 9? Why? But sounds worth catching up on at any rate - Series 1-6 was one of the best sitcoms ever. EVER! :)



Yeah, saw yesterday's episode - well, through a haze of cooking and washing up (not ideal) - and was more impressed. I liked Merlin doing the 'wrong' thing, particularly his struggle to speak against his true beliefs because of his concern for Arthur. Not sure I'm getting much consistency from Arthur even within three episodes with regard to fighting against all sorcery - wasn't he using a magic horn to summon the ghost of his Dad a couple of weeks back? Still, it's a neat set up having a wizard looking after his friend's best interests at all costs, even though that friend has it in for wizards. And it's a solid fantasy TV show, of which there are very few, so I think my love of fantasy is going to coerce me into getting hold of the first series and giving it a go. Thank you for the recommendation, chaps. :)

Gratz!

Skipping 9 was a joke - they didn't want to be tied to the direct continuation of the old series, so pretended as if we'd missed a whole series and then had ther specials as series 9. It would be as if they called series 3 series 3.5 to account for the fast forward there too!



The merlin thing, yeah, Arthur has not been so opposed to sorcery in general, in fact he turned to a disguised merlin to heal his father, but morgana interfered and so arthur then banned sorcery when it looked like the it would finally work out. Uther before arthur had a hypocrytical use of sorcery (some really cool beats in the early series eventually come out about that) so it's more other people not lambasting arthur for it, rather than arthur's desperate use of it, that bugged me about the horn episode. In general it's more consistent though. Hopefully you'll enjoy it!

Yeah, Arthur is slightly less against magic than Uther was. In fact, he's mainly against it only because Uther was, really. If Uther hadn't been so anti-magic (most of the time...the hypocrite), maybe Arthur would have had a chance to make up his own mind. I kind of feel sorry for Merlin, though, having to say "Hmm yeah, magic is...bad. And erm...yeah, you shouldn't use it..." when he obviously really, really wants to say the opposite.

And remember in the horn episode, there were only two people besides Arthur who knew he'd used the horn. One of them queried it at the time and admitted he'd have done what Arthur did were he in that position. The other is old enough to know there'd be no point in saying anything. Everyone else just got freaked out by all the weird shit going on but didn't know what had caused it.

Yeah, nice one by Colin, it was a cool beat to hang on to where he had to come down on one side or the other - and then finding it was the wrong choice after all! And yeah, Merlin does seem to keep quiet about stuff more often than not and not push himself forwards, so I guess its in character for him not to yell at Arthur about it. Though he should have :p

Well, if you look at it from Arthur's point of view...Merlin is basically with him all the time when they're out, and is always the first person he turns to when he needs to go out on some kind of mission or whatever. So Merlin has seen more of Arthur's private troubles than anyone else (even Gwen). So he knows what kind of problems Arthur has, and hat Arthur has seen some times when magic can be helpful (or at least, not instantly hostile/deadly). So Merlin has reason to understand why Arthur isn't completely anti-magic. Plus there are a lot of magic-users out there, and in treating them like crap Arthur is failing in his desire to unite everyone. So his options are basically to kill all the people/creatures that use magic, or to make peace with them. But to make peace with them will go against what Uther strove so hard to achieve. And some magic people have done bad things. But treating the magic people like crap means they have reason to dislike him in return, and might try to kill him and stuff (which of course has already happened plenty of times ;)). So it's a tricky one to resolve, and Arthur's not old enough to have become fully close-minded and set in his ways. So sometimes he does go against stuff he's said before. But only in front of Merlin ;).

I hope Rain Feather proving she needs to be silenced will somehow work out to her advantage!

I'm assuming this man is Haxadrom and not someone hunting/working with Haxadrom.

Oh wow revelations in Rains section!!!!! I told you lot not to like that bastard Valador!!! But would you listen to Foxy???!! Nooooooo!!!

Of course, the funny thing is... how much of this stuff is actually a revelation to certain people :D


Poor Sabre got sidelined at the wrong time, I think!

Did I mention that Rain would be really, REALLY happy to see Sabre or anyone at this point? Honestly, that ice-queen face is coming in handy- if not, well... she might have run away screaming by now.

Two things that are not gonna be good

1. Being around Sun Fox when she learns LW is dead

2. Being around Sabre Fox when he learns of Valadors involvement.

Now which is worse may seem obvious at first glance.......

Believe me...... It's number 2 0.0

Well, just remember that Swift always believed that Valador was up to no good too.  She'd have been on your side...  Err, assuming you could actually get her to talk to you at all of course :)

See, you guys don't know Fox's fury when he gets going. You have all seen small bits of it, and his lethal Helghast bisecting technique with Vigilance. Valador is probabally the closest person in the world that Fox personally hates....... Do the math ;)

I'm hoping I'll have managed to top that for you by the end of the game, Sabre Fox - if I do everything right, we should end up with Sabre Fox having a true nemesis at some point, one much more suited to him than Valador... but we'll get there when we get there. :D

Oooooh! Promises promises!!!!

As long as he runs through Valador on the way that would be even better :)

Is this where Sabre Fox and Sun Fox join forces to form a third team: "Team RAGE!" :)

It's Sun Snake, isn't it...


And yes, it appears that Valador is totally evil, not just 'on the cusp of evil/non-bad bad guy to divert our attention.'

Of ocurse, there seems to be so many evil guys going around...


Personally, I'm still voting for Wol-Dumar to be one of the top Big Bads. As a player...Sun Snake is just about on board with Valador now.

That would really tick Swift off, if Wol-Dumar turned out to be a Big Bad too.
Normally Banedon is the only mage she trusts, but he managed to work his way in there too a little bit.

If Banedon turned out to be betraying her too, then she'd definitely be a good candidate for "Team RAGE!" ;)

I'm not too sure Wol-Dumar is evil though.  Swift has her reasons for trusting him...

Haaxadrom seems like another interesting person Fox would enjoy talking to :)

And incidentally a good ally since we have renged on our agreement with the Drakkar :/

What's this 'we' business... Sun Snake's notlifted a finger against Vyctar nor his men...


...in a public thread at least...

Whether or not the others of us have been perfect gentleman to the Drakkar or not is irrelevant. We killed his mistress 0.0 that Is all

He need to discover it first, though.

I mean, it happend in a remote place that is pretty hard to reach, and it's not like Vyctar had any kind of connection with Zahira so that he'd immediately know if anything happened to her, right?

;P
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Well that was an unpleasant eventuality I hadn't considered...

As if he is gonna believe monsters killed her as Rains story after the mass lake creature slaughter! Haha

How about "a Vakeros did it"? Would that work? ;P

Well that is more plausible, but the fact Rain escaped and Zahira didn't screws that one over

"A Vakeros did it!"

"Where was I when this happened?  Err, well...  Umm...  I was distracted by something shiny!" :)  hehe.

Luckily if Rain's plan worked, Sun Snake knows LW is dead before Vyctar knows Zahira is dead, so there's some wiggle room and forewarning already.

Assuming Snake learned LW is dead and didn't go crazy/commotose.

And assuming Vyctar even learns Zahira is dead.

And assuming Vyctar is still alive.

And assuming Snake is...


Edit: *Sniff* and we're assuming Rain is in the clear and will make it back alive... :(
This message was last edited by the player at 23:04, Sun 04 Nov 2012.

The way Shadow's going with this, Rain's going to get poofed away along with LW's body and I'll be off on my own again... :)

Assuming we're all alive, we'll come and get you no matter where you get *poof*ed! :)

Unless you get *poof*ed over to where Team Toran is, and they see you with the Vakeros and attack you both on sight assuming you've gone over to the Dark Side ;)  hehe.

Ok, I'm gonna stop giving Shadow evil ideas now...

Yay! Sun Snake and Swift Fox get to do a sneak off after all! You've just dinged too, so you've got all sorts of super powers to outclass Sun Snake too! Weeeee....


Wait, suddenly that doens't sound as good :(

So Hax isn't evil after all :)

He's just gone a bit crazy (O.o)


Assuming he could get past Swift's intention to stab him on sight, they might actually agree on something though... :)

Phooey.  Another game lost to GM burnout.  Back to Wanted: Players, I guess...

Eh?  What game?

It was a game based on the old Ghostbusters RPG that was released a while ago.  The GM just up and said "I can't do this any more, the game's closed."  It stinks, because I was looking forward to it, but eh, it happens.  Just have to find something else I can play now that I have room on my schedule for two more games.

I'm sorry to hear that, and I know how it goes. (Hey, I feel the glares now...)

*e-hugs* Good luck on the hunt for a good'un! Aside from this and Sabre's games all the ones I've been have sorta shut down too. I'm not complaining since I don't have the time or will anymore, myself, but I understand :-(

Ah sigh, one of them I shall miss. . . .

I understand completely; I've been in abotu seven games that died in their first month so far... it's really frustrating.

I wish you the best of luck, Rain - I hope you'll have better luck eventually! ^_^

I can sympathise there :(
I used to be a regular on another RP site (http://rpgforumsonline.com/)
And every single one I joined on there just faded out and died.  Sometimes the GM would say they didn't have time to run it anymore or something like that, but mostly it would just suddenly stop for no obvious reason, like everyone just decided they weren't going to post in it again but forgot to pass the memo on to me too, lol.

One of them was an RP that had been running for months on there.  Died out within weeks of me joining it.  That one hit me kind of hard actually, made me wonder if it was my fault, like were my characters too boring, or was my style of writing too dull and they were just too polite to tell me?
After that I quit RPing completely until someone on Project Aon talked me into joining Forests of Ruel.
(After reading the Female Lone Wolf adventures and wishing I could join in too, hehe) :)

Anyways, I hope you'll find something else soon.
Maybe you could start your own though?  You've already proven you can create interesting characters :)  *points at Rain Feather*

Bah, I love your characters Swift. They are better than a fair deal that I have seen on this site. Sometimes I think just making a drastic change can be hard on folks, I don't know! But aye, your characters are great. Moon Dancer is the only one keeping Serenity remotely stable at the moment, and Swift was a lot of fun to run with, too.

In large I think people just take on GMing with out a proper understanding of how much work it is. Speaking from experience. . .

I sort of stopped going to my gaming club 'cause of a lack of game continuation - games would start up but then fizzle out a few weeks later for various reasons - people repeatedly not turning up, players joining a different game started by someone else, the GM getting bored/running out of steam, etc. On a couple of occasions literally the only session we had was the character gen, then never actually started playing. Rather than keep going, sitting around for a couple of hours, and then trudging home, I eventually figured I could have more fun just sat at my own computer. So I haven't been to club since erm, around July some time, I think. Also, I think I may have been a bit crap at some/most/all of the games anyway :P. Maybe I should stick to playing via typed messages - it's easier to do description and dialogue that way ;).
Actually, I've just realised this is the only game I'm playing that's currently still running! Wow. The DnD-based one on the DM forum seems to have, unfortuantely, died off since the GM hasn't been around for a couple of months or so now :(. That's a shame 'cause I was enjoying that game. I want to RP in a game where I can really get into it and enjoy it and stuff. I suppose I'll just have to wait and see...maybe something will come up.

In reply to Alyanna Ragnath (msg # 232):
Aww, stop it.  You're making me blush :)  hehe.

I'm glad you like my characters though.  I imagined that the Kai were just normal people behind all of their superhuman abilities, so could still be haunted by the same sort of inner demons that normal people would be.
Except in their case, things could be much worse.  (I actually removed certain aspects of Swift's back story early on 'cos they seemed a bit too extreme to me too.  When I start giving myself nightmares, it's time to put a shorter leash on the dark side of my mind!)

I know what you mean about some GMs not realising what they're getting into.  That's the main reason I'm not running my own game on here.  My spare time is too unpredictable.  (Not to mention my limited plot writing skills couldn't cope with players who go off the plot rails from time to time, would take a week or two to think of something and update it!)
"I know you don't want to go into that cave, you'd rather go off and investigate somewhere else, but your GM your Sixth Sense really really really wants you to go into that cave.  Are you sure you won't reconsider?  No?  Did I mention that there are loads of monsters wandering around?  Must have forgotten to mention them.  Very tough looking monsters too.  You can't see any monsters in the cave from here, why not go there instead?  Come on, hurry up before the monsters notice you!  You want to fight your way past the monsters?!  Did I mention that they're Helghast monsters?  Do you have a magic weapon?  No!  Well get your butt into the cave, now!" :)

You guys would hate having me as a GM :)  hehe.



Nice choice Rain Feather has been given there.  "Should I kill you now?  Or kill you later when I figure out that you're not really helping me?" :)
This message was last edited by the player at 01:42, Tue 06 Nov 2012.

Well, she could just try and prevent him from figuring out that she's not really helping him... or, you know, actually really help him. That's her choice.

She could also try and escape, if she wants to; after all, Frost Ferret managed to, why shouldn't she be able to do the same? ^_^

The only problem is that I bet Ferret had a full complement of WP and I've got 6 in my main tank, if you will.  In a fight, I've got two shots to smack him with a Disabling Attack to buy enough time to get some distance between us, and two FP to try and make it stick.

I'm thinking if she can use herself to at least get Sabre, Snake and the Suns the body of the Grand Master, Rain will offer to "help" with Haxadrom's plan.  What do you guys think?  She might be able to at least get a message through, but it would mean taking away the Maakengorge team's ability to contact outside help, and they'd lose Rain if they had to tangle with Vyctar and his Drakkarim.... which they will most likely do when he finds out Zahira is dead.

By the way, today is Election Day here in the States, so it might be a slow day for all American posters in games on here (myself included).  I'll do some posting before I have to head to class (a few more if Shadow is around), but tonight might be slow (going to be glued to the TV watching election coverage).

Whoo! R-74!

*crosses fingers*

Yeah, I'll be fairly occupied with it too....

Did we just crossed the 12'000th post without noticing? :)

I know it has to be of one among Shark, Sabre and Rain, but I don't actually know who got it... you people are posting a lot! I'm happy. ^_^
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:00, Tue 06 Nov 2012.

Maybe Haxadrom stole Post 12,000? ;)

:) It's possible, I suppose, but it would feel more appropriate if it had been one of you players; after all, if the game is still going so strong, the merit is of you all! ^_^

By he way, now that you all have a clearer idea of Haxadrom's plan, and the breadth of it, as well as the character himself... what's your general opinion of him? I always like to get feedback on the NPC, and considering he's probably the most important one in the game, all things considered, it'd be nice to have an opinion on how he comes out to you readers' eyes. :)

Rain's pretty much cowed by him- not because of his views, but because he pretty much could have killed her in a second, but didn't.  She doesn't mean to follow through with the plan, but right now, well... she's scared to death and trying to find a way to let her compatriots know what is going on without getting them all killed- we might have to fight Vyctar, but the Vyctar fight followed by the Haxadrom fight would be like fighting Kimah and the Chaosmaster one right after the other.

You need to get back to Toran and hook up with Swift's team to increase your numbers.
Swift's itching to stick a few holes in whoever is responsible for all this mess anyway.  May as well let her off the leash now ;)  hehe.

:) Wouldn't it all work better off if it was the Toran team to reach the Maakengroge, rather than the other way around?

ooo, so Swift might actually get a chance to try her one-shot kill special against Vyctar after all? ;)

Not sure how they'll get there, unless we can sweet talk Valador into teleporting us there.  (Or kill him and steal his staff, hehe).
And we're too busy looking for missing Kai anyway :)

I thing Valador pretty much just ensured that Rain's going to rat him out.  He just dropped the bomb that Valador and he are doing the same thing her grandmother did- trading humans to the Nadziranim for magic power.  The fact that they're Kai, no less... yeah, he's going to be sorely disappointed in her.

I kind of hope Swift doesn't meet Sun Fox again though...

She thought Sun Fox was a friend.  Maybe even started to trust her a little bit.
Finding out she was part of a plan that caused Kai to go missing really won't go down well.
This might not end well for one of them... ;)

*nursing hangover* oyi, why elections on TUESDAY!?

I really need to read up on ya'lls threads, they sound so interesting...

@LS - awww, you just need to drink until the next election to ensure the hangover never gets to you! :)

And yes, I perhaps gave you a bad template for running a game with two groups split up to start with. Every thread tends to be tons of work on its own, and yeah, online games can be a little taxing.


So of course, three cheers for Shadow managing to keep this one running so smoothly for so long! It's an impressive feat, especially since I got the impression you did't think you were going to run an online game at any point, were you?


@Swift - if you want to be an evil GM, there are so many tricks to force player choice in a sandbox. They don't wanna walk into Plotown and disappear in to the dungeons instead? Have an underground cave town they found!



@Dusk - wow, didn't trealise you'd stopped going to the club! That's a shame :( Yeah, I hope Raixel reappears and restarts the game. She's done it once, so I hope she'll return again! I did see her logged in once, so she is around-ish somehow!



Regarding Hazadrom - he seems a fanatic. I like that he's basically playing both sides of the argument, like saying 'yes, i'm evil, but it's good and it lets you do good. I can't wait for his eventual meltdown, or at the very least watching his increasingly twisted justifications.

What's more interesting is the power dynamic going on - Valador and himself basically plotting each other's deaths and using each other. I really enjoy that he knows and is actively preparing for it. I sort of assumed him a stooge to Valador, or at leats willing but now having second thoughts. His current mindset and awareness is far more interesting.


All the Valador evil plan revelations are quite cool - makes me wonder exactly what LS has found out, since she knows/knew more of the plot than the rest of us recently. Has she found another head of this multi-headed evilness, or just found out the Valador side of the final plan?


So, the question is will be be facing magically altgered monsterous Kai, or will we actually start facing 'true believer' rogue Kai? And will any of us end up on the wrong side of that. Swift seemed to be getting provisionally courted for that, as was (is/has been) Laughing Shark. Are we all far to straight to get caught out like that?

Well, seeing the answer to that would be one of the things that I really wanted to see when I planned the game in the first place. ;)

And I'm happy that you like Haxadrom! I tried to build the character in an original manner; from a certain point of view, he's the more evil character in the game - he was the one who involved Valador with his plan in the first place - but he's also conscious of his evil actions and doesn't forgive himself for them, even if he deems them necessary. As for him being smart enough to not be a stooge... well, he sort of needed to be to come up with the plan in the first place, right? Also, I liked the idea to subvert the cliché of the dumb muscle. ^_^

Not sure if this question is for me or for Shark, Sun Snake - can you clarify?

I doubt Haxadrom knows anything about Swift or her past.  But if he finds out and uses it the right way, then depending on certain other circumstances affecting her mental state, it is actually possible for him to talk Swift into joining him.

Of course at the moment it's likely she'll be hostile towards him on sight, so that's assuming he manages to avoid getting one-shot-murdered out of nowhere before he can even say anything to her...
(Though he's probably wearing Plot Armour that gives +100% resistance against 'Stealth Murder' damage, it's normally standard-issue equipment for bosses!) ;)

The question was for you, Shadow - I got it in my head during Culling that you were happy to be a player not a GM.

That's because I was happy to be a player! I like iterpretating a single, well defined character and being surprised by what happens. It makes for a greatly immersive experience. :)

However, I do love to plot and write up complex stories, too, so being a GM is plenty fun for me - I just didn't thought at the time that I had the skills to be as good as it as I would like. You see, I hate doing things half-heartedly (one of the reason I would never GM more than one game at a time), so I wouldn't want to be a mediocre GM, and I was worried I would be. I'm very very happy that you all find me good enough to want to play the game, and you can be sure I'll do all I can not to disappoint you! ^_^

So what that means, I guess, is that I'm very happy with being a GM, but if I could also be a player in a game as deep and involving as Culling was, I'd be even happier - unluckily, it's pretty hard to find such games around. Still, I'm always searching, which hopefully will eventually yeld results!

As for your question, Swift Fox, nobody in my game is going to have 100% plot armour; I've built this game to be supremely flexible and I'm going to stick to it - for example, I had made plans that included the possibility of you lot killing Alyne at the beginning of the game, as well as planned what would happen if the Maakengorge team decided to challenge Vyctar, or if some of you reacted differently to various villains' offers than you did in the game.

You yourself might remember that, when you met Valador and Haxadrom, I explicitly stated that, you having managed to avoid detection, you could kill one of the two if you wanted to? I was serious there - if you'd killed one there, then he would have died, and I'd have updated the plot to work without the one you had murdered. I try my best to be fair!

Of course, that also mean that sneaking on them is going to be hard for you to do again... but, that's why, if you manage it, it will have been deserved, and what can be better than a victory you have to earn? ;D

I was tempted to try killing one then actually, but it would likely have lead to the survivor killing me instantly, so I decided not to :)
Swift might be crazy, but she's not stupid...

It's definitely interesting to see all the various possible twists and turns that can happen in a game, some perhaps more unexpected than others.
I'm trying to sort out stuff like that in my own stories, but those ones by their very nature are forced to keep the player firmly on the rails to a certain degree.
I doubt I'd be able to GM a game like this where the players have the freedom of action to do things that I might not have expected them to do or even planned for.

That said though, I'd be very tempted if I ever came up with a good storyline that would work with a multiplayer game.
I already have plenty of NPCs after all :)

But yep, I'm happy with how this one is running.  Playing as Swift Fox has helped me develop aspects of her character more than I ever could have just thinking about them with a notepad.
If you're thinking of running another game after this one ends, I'm definitely in :)  hehe.

Well, I must admit that the idea is running around in my head from some time, but I'm not going to start anything until Rebirth is ended anyway, and that'll take long enough that I might change my mind in the meanwhile, although I doubt it. :)

I've gotten interested in the Pathfinder system - I've tried and failed to play in many games within the system on this site, although the two I'm currently in are promising - and I'm thinking of either playing an E6 game in that system, or trying to adapt the Final Fantasy setting for the Pathfinder system to play a FF-like game. Not sure if any of you would be interested in these kind of games, but they are what I'm planning at the moment... although only in a very far future at the moment. :)

Does that satisfy your curiosity, Swift Fox? ^_^

Hmm, not sure.  I know absolutely nothing at all about the Pathfinder system.  In fact I've never even heard of it.
Also I dunno if I could fit my Kai characters into a non-Kai universe.  Would depend on what kind of characters existed in that world.
Might work in Final Fantasy settings though.  I've only played 7 and 8, so anything other than those and I'd be guessing a lot :)  hehe.

You are allowed as a GM to put a story on rails, as long as you ask the players first and they agree :) Every game doens't have to be a sandbox!


Pathfinder is the tweaked D&D system that carried on as a sort of 'edition 3.75' while real D&D went to 4th edition

I don't really know the D&D system either, hehe. :)

And I know what you mean, but I'd want my players to have freedom of movement.
It was the only problem I have with the book format where you're forced to limit the options available to the players.

I want them to feel like they're not limited like that.  I'd want them to feel like they're in a real world and can do anything that you'd be able to do in a real world.  Do they keep travelling along the road to get to the next place on their journey, or do they stop a while and search around the scenery to see if there's any hidden treasure?  Do they wander off into the forest instead?  Do they climb a tree to try and get a look at anything that might be up ahead on the road?  Or do they just sit around and chat a while?  Lots of options :)

My only worry there would be that I wouldn't be able to predict every possible action and have a plan ready for it.  That they might take an option that didn't occur to me at the time and I have to scramble to come up with some half-baked idea for what might result from that.  (I hate using half-baked ideas!)
Or knowing my luck, someone would end up stealth-killing my main villain about 5 minutes into the story! ;)

:) I know some people who would say that 4th ed. is not a "real" D&D any longer, but since I'm not invested in that discussion as I never played 3.5 or 4th; I just wanted to point out the fact that the matter is hotly debated. ;)

As far as my experience with Pathfinder goes, I got across the rulebook pdg randomly at one point, read it all and found it fascinating; it is a very flexible system that allows for lot of customization and flavou. From what I can tell, the main difference between Pathfinder and 3.5 D&D is that Pathfinder is a much more self-contained and less chaotic update of the 3.5 ruleset.

Anyway, if you're curious about it, Swift Fox, you can find anything you want to know here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/home

It's an open content site that contains most everything ever written for Pathfinder; having the accessibility of such a comprehensive online list of what can be done with the system is one of the things that makes me like the idea of starting a game of it - it makes the rules much easier to check and consult for everybody involved in a very agile manner.

I cant say that Fox wouldnt mind taking a crack at Haxadrom before long, or even Vyctar. Or possibly a sour mouthed Lieutenant ;)

Needs WP first thought :/

Bah, we get no experience from fighting either of them, just reduced resources to deal with the next villain. Let's make them hug and be bestest friends forever instead!


And edition wars always happen, after all 3rd edition wasn't like D&D was either and got complainbed about at the time, and even now by really old school playerws!  I like all editions. Pathfinder is simply refining 3.5 and dealing with some of the 3.5 issues while keeping the system the same - though part of that seems to be class power creep. D&D itself addressed the issues in 4th edition by changing the system radicallyu in some ways, and so it's legitimately as a different a system as 2nd edition was to 3rd. So they're different enough to play together, but also the reason for the butthurt by fans of 3.5.

3.5 and Pathfinder I would not really class as different at all. 3.5 has the historic legacy of slowly building up that Pathfinder starts withm, but already there's class expansions and equipment expansions. I think if you play them you'll find them pretty much the same, just there's enough specific rules tweaks to trip you up flitting between systems, and probably 3.5 would feel a little more restrictive after Pathfinder, just because you loose some of the power creep that makes the characters more flexible but powerful across the classes.

My game GMing Ameena was modified 3.5, all the old LW games were modified 3.5, but I've loved playing under 4th edition, and recently a friend and I GM'd each other under Pathfinder. So they're all fun and none stick out as bad systems to base your game under once you get used to their quirks.

The old 3.5 system was OGL appart from levelling up, so you can see almost everything here to compare if you ever want to:
http://www.d20srd.org

Well, as I said, thus far I've only played Pathfinder, so I'll trust your more experienced words on the differencies and similarities between them all, Sun Snake. :)

The reason I liked Pathfinder is for how flexible yet solid the class system looks and the flair and entertaining way the classes themselves are designed - coming at it after having RPG experience mainly from video games, it felt relatively simple to learn and complex enough to offer plenty of customization. I'm just instinctive that way at times. ^_^
For what you say, Sabre Fox, wether or not you'll have the chance to face either one between Vyctar and Haxadrom, or even both, will only depend on what your team want to do... and, who knows? If you're already back with the group before Rain makes it back, you might even have the chance to go toe to toe with the Vakeros very, very soon! ;D

And Fox wont even have a clue he needs to act :(

Ooh, a subject I can talk about! :D

I haven't played Pathfinder myself but I think I have a PDF of the book (and if not, I can get it). I've played DnD 3.5, sort of - not at tabletop, but Neverwinter Nights uses 3.5...okay I suppose in a way that doesn't fully count since it's single-player and you're rather more restricted and stuff...but at least I've had a go at the levelling-up system a bit, and stuff. I've played lots of DnD 4th and it's good fun :).

Has anyone played WFRP? That's Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. The system is similar to the Warhammer 40 games (Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Deathwatch, and Black Crusade) in that it uses percentile dice and you must roll a number equal to or lower than your stat in order to pass. But of course, it's Fantasy rather than Sci-Fi so instead of spaceships and bolt pistols you have horses and crossbows, or whatever.

One thing I quite like about the system (Fantasy, not 40k) is the way the classes work. They're not called classes, but careers. You have a small selection to choose from at the start of the game, partially restricted by race (Human, Elf, Dwarf, Halfling...there are probably expansions with other races but I've only ever played the base game, and then not for very long). Basic stuff like "Vagabond", "Wanderer", "Apprentice Mage", "Squire", etc. This will determine your starting equipment and cash (class choice in the 40k games also determines your starting stuff). You don't technically "level up" but change career. There are a load of other careers you can go into, but in order to do so you must meet the requirements. Every career has stat requirements - usually two or three stats if I remember rightly, which must meet the minimum requirement for that career. For example, to level up in a combat-based career you might need a Strength of at least 40 and a Weapon Skill of at least 35. You also need to possess the trappings for that class - items and/or resources which you must have in your inventory or have access to. You must also be (or have been) in the appropriate career(s) which go into the one you want. For example, you can't go from being a Squire to being a Journeyman Mage - you must have been an Apprentice Mage at some point first. Resources you need can be anything from simple, small items (for example, I think to become a Thief, or is it a Cat Burglar, you need a lockpick and a sack) to much larger and less portable resources (a Ship Captain needs a ship, an Outlaw Chieftain needs a band of outlaws).

There is, of course, a world in which the game is set, with its own countries, regions, backstory, etc. If you're familiar with the Warhammer universe at all, it has stuff like the Warp and the Chaos gods and stuff, I think. But you know, I bet you could take the class/career system thingy and just put your own story around it. Because of the way careers work, you could have a whole storyline based around one (or more) of the player characters developing into some uber person with followers and/or a house/castle/ship or whatever, and build the adventure solely around what the characters want to do, rather than giving them a more generic plot ("Omg the world is in danger and that weird gemstone that random bloke just gave you as he died from horrible burns is the only thing that can help save the world, and omg quick the bad guys are coming for you RIGHT NOW so you have to run away on an epic quest to SAVE THE WORLD because otherwise you'll be dead and game over" :D). I mean, the game would still have a plot, but if the players had some idea of where they wanted their characters to go (personality/development-wise), the GM could work with that and build the story accordingly.

Or something like that, anyway ;).

I don't mean to derail anything. . . but I'm happy! My state now views me as a peoples!

*dance*

I've been in a euphoric high since yesterday afternoon, and I'm still exploding all over the place. Yesterday I hugged everyone at work and bounced around the lab for a good hour. . . I'd refrained from here, but now I can't help it anymore!

*dances more* I'ma peoples, I'ma peoples!!!!!



*ahem*

But back on topic. I enjoy Pathfinder a good deal, and if I ever attempt to run a game again, I think it would be in that system. I like the simplified skills and what have you, but it still has the awesomeness of DnD.

I actually would love to try a Dragon Age game one of these days, but I haven't seen many around. I wonder if the system doesn't suck balls or something. The Warhammer sounds interesting from your description, I'll have to keep my eyes out for a game in that. . . when I have time again.

Now I go make an in-game post...

*bliss*
This message was last edited by the player at 18:11, Thu 08 Nov 2012.

Err, sorry Shark but I have no idea what you mean by saying you're "a peoples", lol.

I've heard about the Dragon Age game but haven't played it myself. I know it uses d6s but not specifically how. Might be like Farscape or something...at least I think that used d6s. Doctor Who did.

I have PDFs of all the WFRP books if you want them. Same for pretty much anything else actually. If anyone wants PDFs of anything just PM me your e-mail address with request(s) and I'll see what I can do :).

If anyone's thinking of starting up a Fantasy-based RPG, consider me interested :). Well, if it's generic Fantasy, yes. If it's set in a specific world (ie, one from a pre-existing game/book/flim etc) then that'll depend on the world ;). I've played Dragon Age Origins a couple of times so if that comes up, I'm fine with it :).

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I would very much love to play a game in Thedas! I've got a concept for an renegade keeper . . . which when I think about it, sounds a little like Shark. She's got a taste for dwarven ale, and all that.

I'm happy you're a peoples(???) :)  (And a particularly dancy bouncy huggy peoples apparently, hehe).

Congrats! :)


I know a little bit about the Warhammer 40K universe.  Read a couple of the novels before.  And way back in my younger days, I played a few games of that board game "Space Crusade" that was kind of the "less complex than the RP version, but still more complex than your average board game" version of the tabletop strategy game version of it.

One time I wandered into the "Games Workshop" in the town of Ayr here that sells all the models and stuff, just having a look around out of curiosity, and one of the guys in the shop just challenged me to a game on the "demo table" they have in there.
Felt a bit like one of those "random battle encounter" moments where everything goes all swirly and the fight theme starts up, lol.
Since I wasn't so familiar with it, I got quite soundly defeated, but it was an intriguing introduction to the game :)

I'm sure I've seen a more 'medieval fantasy' themed version of it too (just called Warhammer, without the 40K).

Looks interesting though :)


EDIT: Now Doctor Who I know well.  That was my first exposure to the world of sci-fi geekery, hehe :)
This message was last edited by the player at 18:21, Thu 08 Nov 2012.

I really need to get into Dr. Who. I feel like I lose my nerd card for only seeing a few episodes.

I'd actually also love to try a game in a more sci-fi setting. I'd be tempted to try a Star Wars game, but I feel like my knowledge of the lore is so woeful, and the fan base so hard core, that I'd get shamed out of the game. I've seen a few Mass Effect games pop up from time to time, but they always seem kind of . . . poorly run. Its another world I'd love to game in, though.

I was following a Doctor Who RP on here up until recently, but it seems to have ground to a halt after some of the players had to drop out.

Still, they can be fun.  As long as you don't end up with the situation where ALL of your players want to be Time Lords :)  hehe.

Yay to peoples being peoples!

And...now I have to run to work, no time for more comments :(

Ahh, yes, I've played Space Crusade actually, but the computerised version. I owned the Atari version (well, I still do actually, it's here in my room but I haven't played on the Atari for some years now, lol) and at that point had never heard of Warhammer. Space Crusade was just a space game where you move around in square tiles and shoot at aliens, being careful not to accidentally blow yourself up with your own rocket launchers and plasma pistols. Once I started going to club, I saw a pic of a Space Marine on one of the books (or possible a minifigure thingy for the Warhammer 40k tabletop wargame) and said "Hey, that looks like one of those Space Marines from an old computer game I used to play..." and was told that yes, that's because it's the same setting so it is a Space Marine from Space Crusade, in a way :D.

I've played quite a lot of Sci-Fi RPGs 'cause most of the people at club seemed to prefer Sci-Fi to Fantasy. I'm the other way round but I will play Sci-Fi if it comes up. So I've played all four of the 40k RPGs, Doctoe Who, Star Wars, Farscape, and probably a few others as well, all to varying extents. The longest was a game of Dark Heresy which lasted for about eleven months, while the shortest was probably Deathwatch which lasted for only one session (not including char gen) :P.

Looks like we both got introduced to Warhammer 40K in similar ways then.
When I played the board game, I thought it was just a stand-alone concept, but then later discovered there was this whole huge mythos behind it.

I'd probably have gotten into the whole thing with the miniatures if I could afford it.
I like crafting and tinkering with things.  (Maybe should have played more of a craftsmanship discipline character on here!)

And I also like the idea of being able to customise things like that.  Creating your own game pieces, in that case.
I feel that takes it beyond just being a regular player in a game and more into the realms of individual imagination.  Carving out your own little niche.

Kind of like on here where we can create our own characters :)


I kind of like trying to combine sci-fi and fantasy too.  Like maybe a fantasy story with advanced machinery in it.  (Like the Skyships in this game).
Or something like in Doctor Who where characters can travel back in time to a more primitive age.
I suppose I have difficulty restricting myself to a single genre :)

You get some Fantasy stories which have technologically-based magic, usually referred to as Technomancy. You also sometimes get worlds in which magic and tech exist. For example, if you've played any of the Thief series of games, in those there are three factions. One is tech-based (sort of steampunk-ish) and the other is magic-based (they make weird plants grow and have strange creatures on their side). Another example is worlds such as Krynn or Norrath in which Gnomes are a race who tinker with tech stuff, though again it's nothing too "futuristic" - generally it's nothing more advanced than steampunk. You also sometimes get Fantasy stories which involve time travel, a trope generally associated with Sci-Fi.

Generally I prefer straight Fantasy, though - I like the two genres (Fantasy and Sci-Fi) to remain separate. Less confusing and stuff ;).

@LS - regrding Doctor Who, you could do worse than watching 'The Eleventh Hour' as I recommended to Frost. Since it's like a really really soft reboot of the series (since the show runner changed and a new doctor had came in, along with new companions) then it gets you up to speed and is a good place to start. If you really get in to it, then after those two and a half series, you can go backwards and see the 2005 soft reboot of the series.



Regarding Warhammer 40k, I got in to it probably around 12 but not with the basic stuff, but with the 'epic' range. That was where all the cool huge vehicles you could buy for the figures were like the base units, and you got to have entire armies, not just squads, fight. With building-sized titans and gargants and huge vehicles, etc :)

Annoyingly, I was the orks while my friend was the space marines, which would be fine except you got six plastic titans for a normal boxed set price, whereas I had to very slowly buy the equivalent gargants in metal. So he always tended to kick my arse!


Space Crusade was cool, had the board game and expansions and even had the white dwarf rules for adding some of the 40k models to the mix. Also played the computer game a lot, which was fun - crushing genestealers in doors...soory, I meant soulstealers, obviously they didn't fully clear the rights...and so on. The wierd thing was that there was a programming glitch so white dice never naturally rolled double 2. So your marines were far more immune to orks and gretchin - especially the commanders - but vice versa you normal bolter guys were a little more useless :(


And the4e is something about the 40K setting that is appealing, just the sort of medieval feel in a high tech world (the reverse of what usually happens). Things liek the space marine ethos and organisation, the weird tech-magic and psychic skills of the librarians, etc. All wacky fun.

And then you can have some genestealer/tyranid goodness thrown in if you want a more aliens feel! :D

I just had the basic Space Crusade board game, and the "Dreadnought Factory" expansion.
I liked the Dreadnoughts.  Had some fun as the alien commander setting up some nasty little ambushes with two of them trapping the marine squads in a crossfire.  *evil chuckle*
Always assumed they were just big clunky "ED-209" style alien robots, but apparently they're actually some weird tech-magic cybernetic gimmickry.
Gotta get some more of the books.  The last time I read any was years ago.  Games Workshop here probably has them all.
And maybe if I go back in there, I'll get hit with another "random battle encounter!"  hehe :)

Played a Flash game recently that seemed to be based on that, called "Chroma Wars".  Anyone seen it?
Was intended as part of a series I think.  It had "Techno-Magi" who were like Psykers, and could be trained to launch elemental attacks like fire and lightning once per battle or heal your other units.
And they had enemies called "Abyssals" who were like "Doom"-style demon monsters.
Might turn out to be good if they make more of them :)

"The Eleventh Hour" wasn't bad.  Though I dunno if you'd need to watch "End of Time" to find out why he's crashing at the start.
I think the start of the new series (with the 9th Doctor) is more of a starting point.  Since any newbies to the series are kind of learning about The Doctor at the same time as Rose is.
There's a friend of mine who absolutely loathes Matt Smith though and refuses to watch any of the 11th Doctor episodes.  The fact that she has a crush on David Tennant probably didn't help ;)  hehe.

Nah, I think Eleventh hour did a great job of being a very soft restart. It's funny how usually the companions crossed over through a Doctor regeneration for continuity, so until the TV movie onwatds you rarely got the chance to have the Doctor summarised again from the perspective of a new companion. And if you don't like Matt Smith (madness!) then you have the benefot of going back t oEssleston and Tennent. In reverse, if you like the new start, you don't have long before you gotta get used to a new Doctor once more.

Anyway, what we're geting at Shark is you need to just watch them all right now! Now! :p


And yeah, the Dreadnoughts - the Space Marine ones and the corrupted Chaos ones - are dead soldiers incased in tech if I recall correctly. More robocop than Ed-209! Another cool concept :)

I don't mind Matt Smith actually.  Only the 11th Doctor and Tommy Cooper could make a fez into a fashion accessory, hehe :)

I'm not really so keen on them changing Doctors so often now though.  I mean when the series first started out, they'd sometimes last for quite a few series, but now they seem to be dropping like flies.  I suppose modern actors don't have that same level of commitment to a single role anymore...
He's only got two more "lives" left now, so hoping they'll go easy on them!
(Have to admit I'm curious as to the solution they'll come up with to extend the regeneration limit on him.  There's no way they'll just let it drop after the 13th).

In a recent discussion I was having with someone over E-mail, we were just wondering if they'd make a female Doctor for the 13th :)


(Just dawned on me, I should probably post something in the Team Toran thread...)
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To be fair Tom Baker aside I think all the Doctors only served for around three years, the same as David Tennant and Matt Smith so far. It's just that the expanded series structure meant there's more hours of the old ones. Although of course the new series episodes are a concentrated version of the old ones. I mean a six episode arc of the old show probably only had the same plot as a single or double epsiode of the new show!


I'm al;so interested in what happens between these current two regenerations - as that's when the Valeyard is supposed to emerge!

And I'm not sure if they'd go with a female Doctor, though it would be interesting. Well, aside from Joanna Lumley got to unofficially play the doctor in a comic relief or children in need show way back :)

I'm more wondering if they'll do a Doctor cross-over for the new series t ocelebtrate the 50 years. They did it in the past with the three and five Doctors ones, it would be cool to see Tennant, etc back for one last time.

I thought I was the only one who knew about that :)  hehe.
Hope the script writers remember it.  Supposed to be between the 12th and 13th I think, since he was nearing the end of his lifespan at that time.

They already hinted at an inner dark side with that "Dream Lord" episode.

Yeah, though I mis-remembered the timing of it ages ago so with the weird semi-regeneration stuff during Tennent's run, I thought it might kick off then.

And both RTD and Moffat have such encyclopaedic knowledge of Doctor Who I know they would not miss tha plot point. If anyone new comes to be the show runner though...

I wondered about that too.  If they're following the regeneration limits strictly, then Tennant was both the 10th AND 11th Doctors, and Matt Smith is actually the 12th :)

They don't seem to be working it that way though.  Unless they're holding it back for a future plot twist...

Stephen Moffat seems to be far stricter about tying up plot threads than RJD - going so far as to have the cracks explain away the Cyberman Christmas episode of RJD's, and having an episode dedicated to changing the Dalek look rather than just changing them and not caring about the older ones.

Though I think some of the weird tricks in the new series regarding Regeneration energy probably mean and RJD's own semi-explanation probably mean it didn't count and you can mess around with that energy as the plot demands :p


And with the whole 'fall of the 11th' comments I think Matt Smith is counted as the 11th Doctor, unless there will be a massive twist involving David Tennant, River, and the Doctor's name! Which would be cool, actually!

Not so keen on the new daleks actually.
I liked the "Time War Armour" ones though, those bronze coloured ones that have been around since Eccleston's first series.
They really look like an improved version of the old design that could have been created in-story for the Time War, especially with the shielding, and that neat little rotating turret bit in the middle.
The original ones were built more as sort of mechanical exoskeletons for the creatures inside them, but these ones are more like purpose-built fighting machines.

The new ones seem more like tanks though.  A bit too bulky for my liking...
The petrified one in "The Big Bang" episode looked kind of cool though :)

The good news is that enough people seem to agree with you that when it came to the Asylum of the Daleks this series, they mostly stuck with the 2005 version rather than the newest ones. Though cool to see pretty much all the styles around in that episode!

Yeah I haven't seen any of the latest series due to not having TV reception here.
But I read something like that on the Wiki.  The in-universe explanation is that they created "pure Dalek" versions of the Time War Armour Daleks to use as regular fighting troops, while the red "Drone" ones direct them like an officer class.

Always thought of the Daleks as kind of military minded, so that does suit them really :)

*makes flying visit*

First series of Merlin purchased. (From HMV to support one of only two record/DVD shops left in Worcester, and because I shall be more circumspect about Amazon purchases now we know they pay no UK tax [not impressed].)

First half dozen episodes range from terribly clunky up to passably entertaining. But then a couple of deliciously dark - and much better written - episodes intervene to make the whole thing seem much more promising. Starting to really warm to it. May very soon be hooked. Cheers chaps. :)

Investigating team - busy at the moment, so can't really spend time needed to do justice to the big thing that's just occurred. If you're ready to move on, don't wait for me - I'll try and make choice and descriptive post as and when.

I knew Sun Fox and Sabre Fox would have a scrap over that sword eventually ;)  hehe.
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Poor Sabre, he's done all this hard work to make a cool entrance, and soon Rain's going to top him!

You all think so little of me :( Wait and see what he says ;)

Bet it's still the right opinion! :p

Its strange, because you dont know the half of what he went up against yet! Old Foxy done you lot proud ;)

I daresay! But imagine if Sun Snake somehow knew Rain Feather was in trouble.... your story might need to be told on the run :D


I shudder to think what you've faced, given what's been thrown at Rain and Snake in your absense!

Well im sure you have a nice story to tell, so get telling! ;)

Mine is probably the least of the three, filled mostly with cowardice and the avoidance of massively overpowered villains :D


Still waiting for a minor confirmation from Shadow.

Sabre was too, so that makes two of you, actually.

As for what happened to everybody... well, I'll let it up to you to tell the tale! ^_^

Post incoming.

So Vyctar knows...  I wonder how much he knows? ;)

*sits back and waits for the fireworks to start...*

Who knows who know what about what who knows about what!

Well im sure we will find out! ;)

Eventually, yes. :D

Sun Snake, we double posted.

It's ok, I spotted it and have posted accordingly :D  Quite a tangled web being woven. Can't wait to hear the tale opf the battle form Sabre at some point, and see the thread later still!

So, hopefully Rain Fetaher shows up soon to really complicate matters. If not, hopefully whoever wins the hidden battle of the Deathstaff will try to leave the other way first.

And then we can use Sabre's scouted passages to hook up with Rain, and hopefully not run in to pissed off survivors armed with a Deathstaff!

:) Well, what Rain Feather will or will not do will greatly depend on what you do, that's for sure. Remember, Sun Fox needs a lot more sleep... and Sabre Fox suggested that he wanted some, too, at one point in his thread.

Which he has some right to, as you'll see once he gives you his own account of what happened from his own point of view... ;D

Yeah, but Sabre wants sleep every two seconds anyway, so just because it's deserved this time is neither here nor there. :p

And sure, we all know metagame wise Rain Feather isn't dead and will be appearing unjharmed, but in game Rain Feather's fate is uncertain and all we know is something powerful enough to do bad thigns to Zahira just occurred.

So quite hard to justify sitting on our arses sleeping, especially if we have the secondary problem of the High Priest potentially taking a swim down the waterfall to say 'hello' to us all with his shiny Deathstaff! :D

Well at this rate we might not have time for him to tell you guys if we have to run!

Eh, I'm sure Rain Feather will ahve to wealk the long way around and we'll have tons of time for tales.

We better of course, because we'll suddenly have an angry Vakeros on us when she returns by the sounds of it!

Well, at least you know you won't have the High Priest on your heel yet - since both you and Sabre Fox were smart enough to close off your retreat route, he'll have to take a long, circuitous route to get back to his base... all the more time for you to prepare, right? ^_^

Also, now that you know what befell Sabre Fox, can you see why I said it was something that was meant as a meeting for the full team? :)

Lastly, while it's true that you'll want to find Rain Feather, I was under the impression you also wanted to keep Vyctar on your side... was that a wrong impression?

Like I said, hopefully the Cener and Acolytes will cut thier numbers down fighting in thier trapped space!

It's Sabre Fox that sounds like he wants yto sneak off. Vyctar is all 'lets wait forever for all my guys then we will go find Rain.'

Sun Snake wants to go nowm but he'll discuss it with Vyctar first. Just not right now, because I need to get ready for work and stuff :p

It was actually Snake's initial statement that made Fox think that. Sort of Snake saying, im listening in to thier conversation, Zahira is dead, they are gonna turn on us seemed the perception! ;)

Lol, I'd apologise for creatign the confiusion but it seems fun to have such a paranoid misunderstanding!

 - "Right, so we ran away from them... what exactly made you so jumpy?"
 - "Me, you were the one that said it was dangerous!"
 - "No, you did!"
 - "Nooo, you did!"

Repeats for about five minutes until Haxadrom kills both characters while Rain Fetaher cheers him on, because she clearly chose the wrong side to be on before :)

I hope Sabre's around to post. Seems things are goign to get decidedly interesting for everyone...

Oh, they are, indeed... :D

That happened faster than expected!

Well, Haxadrom isn't one to let thing go by without acting; he believes that, if something is broken, it's his duty to fix it as fast as he possibly can.

You know, like he's going to do to all of Magnamund. ;P
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:19, Fri 16 Nov 2012.

I'll add another addition post on what Sabre will do shortly!

I'll let you post first since you are a post behind!

These things come and go so fast, I just wanted to flag up now the fact that soon we will have a post count of 12345!

Answering the question here to not clog the main thread. :)

Haxadrom is probably one of the bigger man you've ever seen - he's certainly more powerfully built than Sabre Fox or even Starfire. Of ourse, he also doesn't look like a Drakkar at all - he looks 100% Vakeros. So it's up to you, really, to decide whether or not he might be that one.

Sun Snake has never let uncertainty stop him from making comments with certainty, so if a huge guy who looks like he could have bee nteh Drakkar, and also looks like a Vakeros, and has Lone Wolf's body, he's going to assume this is one of the big bad guys.

Even though that actual true fact come from half-verified presumptions, assumptions and Vyctar's lies :D

Well, that'll just make it even more fun when he discovers the truth, isn't it? ^_^

I might be flaky tomorrow, so with apologies to Sabre Fox, I'll just post my post just now.

Soooooo.... we might be in a tough fight with less than perfect resources here, except for an army of expendable Drakkar.

Sun Snake does have the strength potion in his backpack. Not sure if NPCs can use it, and are assumed ot have WP they never use. Certainly I don't think any of us want to or can use it with an 8WP cost. However, I daresay Vyctar or one of his lieutenants would have a better time against Haxadrom's strength if it was matched.

And of course, we could mock Haxadrom by explaining exactly where that came from, if Rain Feather can confirm this is indeed Haxadrom.


In that vein, if Rain Feaher reveals it is Haxadrom, we could do some provisionaly soften up of our target in an overly clever way if everyone is keen? We could have Sun Snake attemtp top link Sabre's mind to Rain's, so that Sabre's perfect recollections of Haxadrom's father and sister can be pushed right in to Haxadrom's mind by Rain Feather as a psychic attack. And then if we want to get readlly creative, we can try a variant of the last time we did something similar, and then turn that vision in to a vision of Haxadrom as the Agarashi, as the his sistrer as Rain Feather, and then blast him with Sun Snake's emotional recollection of the evil of the Agarashi and Rain Feather's terror of being attacked.

Might be good for a laugh, or weaken the man in interesting ways. Maybe.


Anyone any other ideas? Not that it matters, of course. I meant, HAxadrom's still planning on just killing three Drakkar and leaving, right? I mean, right? Won't have shifted his plans at all to have them read so easily like that, right? I'm sure we're all safe as players here even if we fail, right?

Well, you're getting creative, that's for sure! ^_^

The idea in itself isn't bad, but it requires powers you lack - the ability to fish out memories from Sabre Fox's mind for one (last time you only sent feelings and impressions, not images), as well as Telepathy to handle the multiple-link connection.

And indeed, you have imperfect resources and an opponent with unclear goals... hopefully having  dirty dozen of Drakkarim will be enough to tip the scale. Of course, that's only if you can find a better way to use them than what Vyctar has planned... ;D

About the sharing of potions, of course the NPC can use them - but, you've just seen what happens in a battle of such an high level when a fighter is distracted for a mere second; Vyctar really wouldn't have the time to drink the potion at this time...
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Well let's see how Vyctar and Fox tag team works ;)

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I too am curious to see what you'll think up! ^_^

Dual-wielded Vigilance AND the Sommerswerd?!  (O.o)

Poor Halen might not be getting her brother back after all...

Well even Vyctar wanted Haxadrom in chains, so hopefully Sabre isn't as bloodthirsty as a Drakkarim Colonel!