Chora's Den   Posted by Kami.Group: 0
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Mon 1 Dec 2014
at 07:47
Chora's Den
New ooc.
Dorugo
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Mon 1 Dec 2014
at 07:49
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Kami (msg # 1):

She kicks everybody's ass.
Kami
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Mon 1 Dec 2014
at 07:52
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Dorugo (msg # 2):

There iß a difference between kicking all the ass and kicking all the ass awesomely. But for now I shall not judge her fully till I know more about her.
Dorugo
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Mon 1 Dec 2014
at 08:07
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Kami (msg # 3):

You are forgetting how epic Archie and Shelly are, yet she floors them.
Also, she stole from Matt using a Whismur, one of the weakest Pokemon available.
Kami
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Mon 1 Dec 2014
at 08:13
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Dorugo (msg # 4):

I think they're cool in concept. But still just cause she's strong doesn't mean she's awesome. She could be another Roxie or another ghetsis.
Yeah I don't know who that is. So even without plot aid I don't know how impressive that is.
Dorugo
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Mon 1 Dec 2014
at 08:39
Re: Chora's Den
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Mon 1 Dec 2014
at 08:43
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Dorugo (msg # 6):

Dudes awesome but unless Z flips his ass that don't help her case. I don't know I might be biased since I haven't like a dragon trainer since lance.
Dorugo
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Mon 1 Dec 2014
at 08:46
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Kami (msg # 7):

She spun his ass around with a Whismur... twice.
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Mon 1 Dec 2014
at 09:36
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Dorugo (msg # 8):

That reminds me, Ash had the power of king of the ocean for a while.
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Tue 2 Dec 2014
at 05:26
Re: Chora's Den
I'm at work, but I'll check in tomorrow.
Daedalus.
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Wed 3 Dec 2014
at 06:31
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Rivka (msg # 10):

Extremely NSFW.
http://vimeo.com/112606238
Dorugo
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Wed 3 Dec 2014
at 06:38
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Daedalus. (msg # 11):

Don't like it, never have. :/
Daedalus.
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Wed 3 Dec 2014
at 06:50
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Dorugo (msg # 12):

The video? D:

Detailed breakdown of the symbolism:

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Matthew J Barnes Breaking it down:

Dude leads an otaku lifestyle, loves collecting figures and making models. What's there not to like? Lots of pretty anime girls, tits and ass and sex. During the first section, his goofy face showed he's shamelessly enjoying every bit of it. Suddenly the scenery changes to a more sinister tone. It's a vicious cycle where he's ensnared by it, symbolized by the cage and face-on-screen-surrounded-by girls motifs. This addiction is represented by a masked woman. The addiction suffocates him in pleasure, waking him up.

The masked woman jumps out of the screen, pouncing on him and removing her mask. He's scared but wait, that face seems awfully familiar. Ah yes, it's the face of his ex-girlfriend whom he broke up with some time ago. His girlfriend loved him even though he was totally consumed by his addiction (eating internal organs motif). They had a great relationship together, beautiful moments captured on camera. But she was replaced by this masked woman (his addiction).

He realizes what he has lost, the partner that he had. He screams, knowing he had lost the one who loved him most. He knows what must be done: He must fight the addiction. He dons his powersuit and guns down those sexy girls on the streets. Yes, he's almost reaching his girlfriend, just a little more! He's willing to go through any pain to reach her!

But no, it's not the girls that he must defeat. It's his addiction, the masked woman. The final big boss in an impenetrable mothership. Behind that masked woman lies his girlfriend and the way back to his former life. Missiles fire at him but instead of fighting back, he releases flares to dodge them. He doesn't retaliate, merely avoiding what he must do. He despairs, succumbing to the masked woman kissing him. He doesn't fight back. He is torn and shattered, waking up everyday to find that nothing has changed.

A story told with incredible animation.


Dorugo
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Wed 3 Dec 2014
at 08:51
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Daedalus. (msg # 13):

Disagree. I see it as an internal conflict between love and lust.
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Wed 3 Dec 2014
at 09:35
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Dorugo (msg # 14):

Im on my phone but I'll try to watch it. So far noobs answer sounds likely.
Dorugo
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Wed 3 Dec 2014
at 11:52
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Kami (msg # 15):

*sigh* Fine, I'll elaborate and make it longer so you'll agree with me.

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If you look at his plausible age range, he fits the common "coming of age" cliche perfectly. A common theme in coming of age stories is love and sexuality, which clearly takes center stage in this video. The entire story is told through dream, which alludes to the conflict being mostly internal rather than external. This is very clearly a work of the boy's own subconscious rather than being a memory or allegory of a love lost.

The blue haired girl (henceforth called "Lust") starts off seemingly innocent enough with mild innuendo, but it then quickly multiplies and seemingly consumes his mind/life. At this point, we see a heart, representative of love, inverted to become a swaying ass. This shows clearly that Lust is the polar opposite of love. It is around this time that Lust takes a decidedly more lewd appearance. Lust is presented with a similar style to the way many viruses are drawn in anime. (Think of the first Digimon movie, for instance. Very many stylistic parallels.) On a behavioural level, Lust has become insatiable and obsessed, almost addicted, this representing the boy's own spiraling addiction to porn/sex. The piercing Lust now wears and the chains linking them also hold a high degree of imagery. The first and most noticeable is that the chain linking the piercings and collar are commonly used to show submissiveness or pet/slave status, but there is an implied role reversal in that the boy is a slave to Lust and he is slowly becoming more and more disturbed by this fact. When Lust comes out of the computer and into the physical world, it represents his perversion beginning to have an actual impact on his real life. Lust now consumes him and shows her true nature, both dark and dangerous.

In stark contrast, there is the pink haired girl (henceforth "Love"). First we should examine why her hair is pink. Pink represents love and innocent femininity (as opposed to red, which is a more sexualized aspect of womanhood). Pink is the color of a blush, for example. This is likely a visual cue to associate this girl with innocent love. She is introduced as confused and seemingly helpless. Love needs to be nurtured and cared for, as opposed to Lust forcefully demanding attention. We see all these examples of the joy Love brings the boy, but Lust has forced the two apart with very little resistance. It's also worth noting that, even when entirely naked, Love has no visible nipples nor labia.

There is also the matter of the pink haired Lust. You may be thinking that the leader of the Lust army is, in fact, Love. The thing is, when the leader Lust removed her mask, she actually donned another mask. This is representative of the way these issues are presented to us. Every day we as individuals are bombarded with the message that Lust is actually Love. We are told time and time again that Love is about sex and fucking. This is actually one of the strongest points for my case. This Lust, masquerading as love, holds herself with apparent dignity. This is the face of Lust that is presented to the world. She is the driving force of this army, yet she takes the face of Love to hide her own. This actually causes him to turn his back on Love because he can no longer tell the difference between the two.

Next, there is the boy entering the action sequence. He reflects on the love he has lost to Lust and undergoes a dramatic transformation. This is the quintessential "becoming a man" part of a coming of age story. You may notice the armor and all appearing, but did you notice that his actual body changed? Look at his face, for instance. He now appears much more mature and serious compared to the way he started out. If we look at the city he is in, we see posters everywhere advertising Lust. His previously internalized struggle with Lust is now shown to be quite external as a literal battle against the whordes (intentional) of Lust. As Lust destroys him, we see his face flash back and forth between his more mature look and his younger look as he begins to doubt himself as a man. Even at this point, the leader of Lust continues her deceit, kissing him to hide the fact that she rips his head off. (Seriously, go back and look. When she starts to kiss him, he still has a body. As she kisses him, you can see his head slowly rise. Next thing you see, he's only a head.) She has, quite literally, taken everything from him now.

Now, in the original there is a 1:30 long, pretty much pointless intro thing that has absolutely no connection to the video. It's not important. Now, what IS important is that the original video looped back to 1:31 as soon as the time ran out. The video wasn't just looped, it was looped back to the actual start of it and, actually, it was looped fucking perfectly. If you look at the beginning and end of the video Noobs linked, it is THE SAME FUCKING SCENE. This infinite looping of the video shows that he will always struggle between Love and Lust. He will always try to regain Love. Lust will always win out, though. He will always fail because once we turn our backs on the true Love the only two options we are given by this world is Lust and Lust disguised as Love. No matter how hard we fight, we can never go back to the way it was before Lust took over.

So, check fucking mate?
Daedalus.
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Wed 3 Dec 2014
at 17:10
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Dorugo (msg # 16):

A convincing arghment, yes.
Kami
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Wed 3 Dec 2014
at 18:28
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Daedalus. (msg # 17):

If you hadn't mentioned the bit about it being like a coming of age story but yeah so far just from what I've heard it does sound like the video is more like what dragon described but unti i see it i cant be sure.
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Wed 3 Dec 2014
at 19:56
Re: Chora's Den
The video is gone.
Dorugo
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Thu 4 Dec 2014
at 01:48
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Kami (msg # 19):

Just do a video search for Me!Me!Me! and you'll find it. It's fucking everywhere.
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Thu 4 Dec 2014
at 03:45
Re: Chora's Den
In reply to Dorugo (msg # 20):

What is it about that vid that makes it so interesting.