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In reply to GM (msg # 1):
Wow! How long has this game been? I joined in 2016 lol

I joined in 2016 too!

The 1st post (I think) of the game was on 31st Jul 2012.

Wow, am I the oldest one now? It feels weird, I used to be the newest!

Heh...nice new pic there Dann!

I thought Kores joined the same time as you? As did Colm I believe...
This message was last edited by the player at 15:38, Thu 18 Jan 2018.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 5):

Yeah, but Kores retired.  Chlainn is a newcomer….

If I remember well, Kores was already there. Colm was not named Colm at the time, but he was already there as well.

In reply to Dann of Clan Valin (msg # 7):

Finan, I remember he got chopped and I had to go save his life.  Otherwise he was unconscious and immersed in water.  I think hold breath only works if you're conscious.

I got the initial invite from the church guy, the father.  Kores was hoping to get some ancient Selentine loot.  I suppose he found a few answers.


Maybe the GM can turn him into a bad guy....

Usopi: From there it’ll just come down to actually dealing damage, which may be difficult since my paranoid player brain is saying that they aren’t actually people but just animated suits of armor) we don’t see any eyes or skin or hair or anything right?


From the smell at least, whatever is inside that armour hasn't bathed in a very, very long time....there are signs beneath the helmets but its as if there is something dark coloured ( some sort of material?) under the helmet which makes it difficult to see anything clearly really....

In reply to GM (msg # 9):

I think, if we make em' laugh, they'll snort....

In reply to Kores Varias (msg # 8):

Very rich history;)

Sorry guys! Sigh...major tactical blunder! Twice in a row! Hope I don't cause any deaths...:(

I have been in this game since the start, but have taken a few breaks thus far.
We have been through a couple of players and several characters so far, the MOST hazardous game I've been involved in!

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 12):

Haha, we can always just run, but I think this was still a good tactical choice. We have greater numbers, but fewer fighters that can stand tor to toe with any one of their fighters. Plus, if the other two enemy tanks come over the rise we’ve got ranged fighters who can pepper them while we hold the line.

I also don’t know what the other options are tactically. We could have charged up on to the ridge but then we would have had no maneuverability. One side of this ledge we’re on has a cliff face headed up right? Our climbers could climb and maybe fire down/throw heavy boulders on the enemy from elevation?

There is an overhang ( as shown in the pics above) but someone very brave/foolhardy could attempt a climb up the cliff face about 5m to the top above...a fall would be....unpleasant...

Note to self for later:

Drake- 15
Lann- 14
BR- 13
Dann-12
Brannon-11
Chlainn-8
Griff- 6
Usopi-4

In reply to GM (msg # 16):

Reflexes....  we knights are really fat....

Hmmmm, now to see if we can eliminate one of these mooks without losing one of our own! Double down baby!

Edit - If I get hit again I’ll trade places with somebody, but I’m pretty sure I can survive another blow.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:57, Tue 23 Jan 2018.

Can Griff engage an enemy in melee??

Not at the moment. We’re on a thin walkway with barriers on either side. We can only engage two by two, so we’ll have to trade out when one of us at the front takes significant damage. (My guess is after this round cause I’ve already taken -5hps)

Unless maybe you’ve got a spear or lance something. I’m not sure what your weapons are.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:58, Tue 23 Jan 2018.

Just a mace. Will wait for my chance and hope my spell doesn't expire - I'm assuming I roll round by round, right?

whelp, I definitely missed my target (though Chlainn got a critical hit on him, so hopefully he’s dead unless his hp total is crazy.)

I’m pretty sure I’m clear of taking another hit though, so I’ll trade out with somebody in the next round and rest up a bit from my wounds.

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 22):

its not double damage, just automatic armour bypass.  Would be nice if I struck off his helmet though, I wonder what porcine features they have....

I'll be glad for Drake to trade places with Usopi to the frontline. Though I will defer in favor of Dann.

However I think this is a good place to try a shove. Get one or both enemies off the cliff. So how it looks like is this: once Usopi backs away, 2 of us basically dive at one of the enemy, one going for his torso, the other for his legs. The object is to grapple the guy and shove him off the cliff. Either imbalance him with one quick hard shove so that he topples over the edge (roll a natural 1 on 1d20?), or slowly push him inch by inch to the edge and then some.

I will leave the mechanics to GM. But it may look like this:
The 2 of us who dives, each makes a grapple attack by rolling attack normally. On success => successful grapple. So the enemy can be single grappled or double grappled. And then the shove begins, basically a Strength check pitting our combined Strength vs the enemy's Strength.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 24):

Wish we had blood sword battle perspectives.  I liked the 2D boxes...  Got a vague idea of what the battle looks like.  Maybe we can just retreat to a wider place.

No chandeliers to swing on?  If only we had a sapper!  We could create a false surface for them to walk on...  or install chandeliers to swing on....

Its an idea but be aware that was a very lucky roll from Drake, they are larger and stronger than your largest and strongest member and quite capable of pitching one of you off as well....they just like cutting you open more...aesthetically speaking.

Totally note that GM. But perhaps, just perhaps, 2 of us working together against 1 of them might grant some advantages that tip the balance in our favor...:P:D

And Drake is also waiting on Aphail's smelly smoky burning furs to throw on the helmets of those outsiders! :D

On a separate but related note, I realize we need some distance attacking and/or grappling options. Halberds and spears, perhaps staffs, flails (whether the morning star or spiked chain variety) and whips, and even weighted nets. And certainly bows and crossbows. This is for fighting overpoweringly tough opponents where straight melee doesn't work.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 27):

Ah, Kores would be able to come up with all sorts of alternatives.  Not as great as a sapper.  We had all the time in the world to build siege engines and other anti armour hardware..  Would you believe it my 1st rank sapper was belittled in the hiabour forums??!!?  They just operate on a different time scale from most adventurers...  Says they wouldn't accomplish much in King Under the Forest...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_Horse

There has been speculation that the Trojan Horse may have been a battering ram or other sort of siege engine resembling, to some extent, a horse, and that the description of the use of this device was then transformed into a myth by later oral historians who were not present at the battle and were unaware of that meaning of the name.

Methinks this was a mechanical wooden tank but the original plan failed and their man powered motility failed to work and they locked themselves in....

Griff might be a good choice as well. He's got the might spell on, but I'm not sure how long it lasts.

Also, I know a crit doesn't do double damage, but my hit and Brannon's arrow did 9 hp of damage to the same guy last round. Your hit then of 5 damage would then total 14 hp. I've got 14 at full health, so I'm curious how much farther these guys can go then me. (I may be feeling emasculated by them. :P )
This message was last edited by the player at 08:04, Wed 24 Jan 2018.

No Usopi. The 1d6 is for Armor Bypass, which is not needed since it is a critical hit. Damage for a mace (is that what you are using Chlainn?) is a straight 4 points, plus any Strength bonus Chlainn has.

If I didn't guess wrong, Griff is a Mystic. Even though enhanced with Might spell, he still presents a very soft and vulnerable target. Dann would have been preferred to step into the hole. But then again guys, are we trying the grapple and shove thingy? Or you wanna continue with the slash and bash melee?

Ah, I see how I missread it.

I’m fine if you guys want to try the grapple and shove. I’m not obviously cause I’ll be stepping back to open the space, so no immediate risk to me. :D

I feel like if we had something particularly advantageous to the push. Is there a mechanic in place if the objective of an attack is to trip the target not hurt them? I imagine trying to roll a prone dude over the side of a cliff without him man handling you over the edge yourself.

Worse case scenario you all die, I beat and expoditious retreat (because you can’t kill the taint of evil if you’re dead) I go find the wildings whose leader girl has a crush on me, and I inspire them to come back and enact a more carefully laid out, ewok style ambush. ;)

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 31):

Lann is a warlock.  What armour has he got on?

Toirneach Lann
A son of a wise woman of Clan Gar. Toirneach Lann started his training as a youth under an elderly spear-witch who taught him to combine sword and sorcery to overcome foes.

Tall and lean, Toirneach Lann is pretty quick on his feet and is usually dressed in his suit of maille which was a gift from his mentor and friend, the spear-witch Magia. His pock marked face which was a result of a childhood illness causes people to shun him.

Dann's description doesn't indicate.  I thought he was a barbarian?  Chlainn is in mail too.

yeah, all I got is a d6,4 mace.  Thought it would make a change from swerdes...

Not sure, if I push, I might end up throwing myself over.  Reflexes are very low for the armoured squad as it is.  We need a sapper!



That is a good plan Usopi!  We're all expendable and can reroll new characters!  Hell, I might even come back as a flying head!

Dann has a full mail armor and a +3 shield (plus a +1 sword).

Haha ok, then I vote for Dann.

In reply to Dann of Clan Valin (msg # 33):

Wow, +3 shield?  Where did he pick that up?  I thought Kores was making off with all the best loot!



Oh damned, they're shooting!  Glad we're armoured in the rear as well as the front, people get shot up from behind in this game...
This message was last edited by the player at 15:17, Wed 24 Jan 2018.

Ok so I am guessing we are NOT doing the shoving thingy. If that's correct, then yeah, Griff, better to let Dann go upfront have his ass kicked 1st...:P :D He is indeed much better equipped.

Agreed :)

In reply to Griff Koehler (msg # 37):

Is there no vegetation, roots or anything to swing on?  Someone could probably grab hold of it and swing to the other side.

That's quite a fall if you lose your grip, though!

In reply to Brannon Darrow (msg # 39):

Maybe someone with high reflexes. Otherwise, just wait for the tanks to resolve the battle of kursk...

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 40):

I better get out of combat.  Maybe I didn't tell anyone, but I had a vicious dog bite near the neck, and now a two handed sword wound....

Solid rock....a little moss and lichen...

In reply to GM (msg # 42):

Ok. So Chlainn may go down this round ( 4 hp remaining) and can someone remind me why Dann is on 7 hp?

:)

I don't know about Dann's hp. But yeah you guys, please step back and let others come forth to take the punishment...

Yowza.... maybe we should just retreat fully down to the first cave? I don’t like the idea, but I assumed we were starting this fight at full strength and didn’t consider some of us might already be wounded. :(

I will have Drake do a check on his comrades next time. So that such information is surfaced in a timely manner, and not in such inconvenient circumstance. :D

As for retreat, I am unsure. Perhaps we try holding them here for a few more minutes?

Ok so I will just do some shameless metagaming...:( Sorry GM. I really am actually...sigh...

Lann...you are at least Rank 3 right? You have a ton of spells that can help!!! Serious! :D Can you look at what you can cast? Silent Warrior? Imperil? Illusion? Havok? These 4 allow you to help the fight immensely without stepping into melee. And if you actually do replace Dann, Fortune and Enhancement would greatly improve your effectiveness! And after the fight is won and the enemies neutralized, Lann can break out some healing.

Do you have the Players' Handbook Lann?

Usopi - badly injured. plate armor.
Chlainn - badly injured. plate armor.
Dann - injured. chainmail.
Drake - fresh. leather armor.
Lann - fresh. chainmail.
Brannon - fresh. Bow.
Griff - fresh. Bow.

For the frontline, to hold the 2 enemies back:
Drake should replace Chlainn right now. And if Dann takes one hit, then Lann should replace him. Because (I am guessing) Lann and Drake have the next highest Defence score. And Lann's chainmail armor would be a good boost to his durability.

For overall strategy:
There are only 2 enemies, though they are very tough. Good chance we can overcome them and win. But straight combat is not going to cut it. Unconventional means are needed. Magic is most straight forward - looking at you Lann! :D

If not, then we wait for Aphail and the furs. Once he arrives, we fling the furs on the enemies and light them on fire. That would give some advantage to us. Gotta see if that is enough to win. If not, we will think of and try something else to widen the advantage.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 46):

Chlainn is in Chainmail.  I think I tend to use chainmail for all my knights...  wouldn't mind acquiring plate in the game but hey, I needed the money....

Technically I would say I’m only injured, not badly injured. I can take another turn in the fray if needs must. I assumed I was going to take damage from that last hit because I’m still not great at reading DW rolls.

Do heal spells take a long time in game to take effect or are they instantaneous? If their instantaneous Lann could just heal us as we switch out back and forth from the front.

Would it help if one of us rushed after aphail to make sure he was actually coming? The man might be cowering in fear in the lower caves.

I cannot remember, probably because of a previous fight. That must have been some time ago, maybe as far as our trip to this frozen mountain cave.

In reply to Dann of Clan Valin (msg # 49):

I've taken to using up the space.  That dog bite took place around November 2017, which was maybe less than 2 days ago in game time....

Heal spells are instantaneous.

Actually the most effective intervention in the fight would be Lann and his magic. Those few spells I suggested would already be quite enough to really turn the tide and almost flip the situation on its head. Aphail is Plan B actually.

But then again, Drake doesn't know what Lann can or cannot do, hence the poor Mercenary is still stretching out his neck waiting for the herdsman to return with the needed furs...

In any case, I will take it, against my better judgement, that Griff has replaced Chlainn. :) I will come in when Griff or Dann needs a swop...

Ok. I'll fix that.

Ok. Just Usopi and Chlainn injured then.

Let's hope Drake's too busy to notice that... :D

In reply to Brannon Darrow (msg # 53):

Whoops...  need to roll up another red shirt soon...

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 54):

Arbalest is 3 or 4 rounds to wind?

In reply to GM (msg # 55):

I thought it was 5 rounds, fire on 6...

yeah, fire on 6....

Thanks!

In reply to GM (msg # 57):

Lann.

Chlainn is currently on -1 and bleeding out.

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 45):

Yup I m ranked 4. Wearing chainmail. Got both the old book 6 and the new player hb.

Currently I have enhancement on. Ready to heal injured warriors. Yeah I guess I could cast spell to get my warrior to strike a blow. Does he has space to stand?

GM can Griff get to Chlainn and if so, attempt to stabilise him?

Belay that, just saw the in-game part.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:27, Sat 27 Jan 2018.

Ok, so reading the current collection of posts I’m. A bit confused. I thought our current front line was Griff and Dann, and that Lann was going to heal Chlainn to keep him from dying. However, Griff and Lann both posted to be interacting with Chlainn. Does that mean we’ve accidentally left Dann to fight on the line on his own? Because that would be..... a bad idea. I guess Gat could take a turn on the line rather than leave the line broken....

Actually Drake divested himself of most of his stuff before climbing up. Left them with Lute at the bottom of the cliff. :D So...guess the arrow hits him in the back. :D


Yeah...Griff where are you now? On the frontline or helping Chlainn?

Frontline. Apols. Will edit post tomorrow when sober :)

In reply to GM (msg # 58):

Gosh I'll get to him ;(

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 47):

Don't knights begin with plate? Just downloDed the book into my phone!
Hope we get xp soon ;)

Edited my post. Of course I rolled a 20 :(

Always play the knight in chainmail.  Back in an earlier game with Sir Basril and all the other fighters I play...

Had to pay for the Arbalest.

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 67):

oic.. Why cant I find alarbest as a weapon in my books?

Players Guide.

Lol, that was some impressive acrobatics Drake, but I’m not sure how you’re going to survive when the other two dark riders come in behind you and sandwhich you in between four of the buggers.

On the topic of game rules, I can’t aid Chlainn in cranking his weapon in order to speed up the reload process right?
This message was last edited by the player at 04:21, Mon 29 Jan 2018.

Not really, its kind of a two handed windlass....we can say you did one round of winding this round while he was being healed.

If you have a look at the pics posted on the last page of OOC 2, Drakes jump becomes even more scary...a miscalculation would have had him face planting into one of the rocky overheads. :)

In reply to GM (msg # 69):

Thank u. Didn't buy that. New series I only bought the dragon warriors, beastiary and fren or foe.
Haha shall buy that when there's offer.

Should have got the bundle when it was up a few months ago. ;)

In reply to GM (msg # 74):

Hm, bundle.  Sounds familiar.  I tend to buy all the books when it comes out.  No time to skim through the pdfs, keep buying stuff and I spend more time on fallout 4 and more recently skyrim.

Bought the pendragon bundle, and rifts bundle, and there was a wfrp bundle...

Thought I might even buy the werewolf/vampire game bundle, but no time to read em'...

Got all the time in the world to bullshit about during office hours though....

Spectacular indeed, and risky for sure...but it did gain 2 advantages for us - one more man joins the fray, and one more front opens behind the outsiders.

We really should avoid that thick armor. Until Aphail arrives with the oil-soaked furs, I can see no other attack now except to try tripping/pushing/shoving them off the cliff. @GM: The companions working together should reasonably improve the chances of this succeeding right?

As for the approaching reinforcements...hahah...Drake has something up his sleeves for when they do appear. :D

Posted my attack before I saw Drake's call for a push. Can I switch my action? In general, should we be posting in Reflex order?

That's fine Griff. Unless you really want to change your action. :)

Drake's Reflexes is 15.

Also, I assume I’m incapable of helping with this since I’m no longer in the front lines? Hopefully the one being pushed is the full health one and not the heavily wounded one. ;P

Well...when (not if) we clear these 2 outsiders on the steps and their reinforcements, we are gonna assault the upper caves and face the big kahuna himself/herself. Together with probably his/her strongest companions. Let's think abit on how we can defeat them given our obvious disadvantage against their heavy armor.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 80):

How about bear themed illusions?  They might actually think some higher power is making its presence known.  They did arrange to kill so many innocent bears...  I think there was more than the one we shot up right?

Do we have any crossbows?

Ah, this is where Tobias would have been handy. :D

Two handed swords or spears might also work - they've got good armour bypass rolls. With my bow, I've got a 1 in 6 chance of piercing plate! Poison might be helpful, but we've still got to get it past their armour!

Good ideas all around - bear illusions, sharp weapons.

Is everyone with all your equipment? Is Drake the only one who left his stuff downhill while he climbed up? He will need his stuff with him - some of those may be helpful for the assault.

The party have already blown our stealth. Drake will need about 10 minutes (right GM?) running downhill (going the way Usopi and Chlainn came up via) and back with Lute and the rest of Drake's equipment.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 83):

Not sure if this will help, but Rommel on anti tank warfare...

With only 300 tanks he was able to defeat the british with 800 tanks.  Reasons due to the fact that they split their forces.

Rommel also mentioned that all efforts should be dedicated to destroying enemy armour.  Anti aircraft fire and trapping them.  That way you will have the initiative and be able to pick your battles when you dominate with tank forces.

Now, how that will help us in this situation I am unclear, but I would not dismiss a historical figure who excelled in tank warfare.  Guderian was also great with tanks but hitler told him to retire due to his 'heart condition' and withdrawing tanks to a defensive area in Operation Barbarossa.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 80):

Didn’t the borderers say there were five heavy armor guys and one light armor guy leading them (presumably with magical abilities)? We’ve killed 1, we’re fighting 2, depending on what is coming for reinforcements we may only have the light armor guy left. (Plus any of the borderers he’s broken enough to join him.)

If we can finish these two (push one off the edge and kill the other one) before the reinforcments show up, it might be best to withdraw and face the reinforcements at the lower cave ledge where we can surround them?

If the reinforcments are borderers (doubtful since the footfalls are “armored”) then we can just convince them to aid us.

As for the lessons of Rommel, we are clearly the shermans to the enemy’s panzers in this scenario. :P

Edit - also just noticed you’re the only one that tried the push Drake. :P
This message was last edited by the player at 15:39, Mon 29 Jan 2018.

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 85):

Hmm what does shoving depend on? Strength or reflexes? I can try since my stats are now 18/18 for both. Might work for me. I can try after this round.

Reflexes to get a hold and Strength to move them.  Drake is likely in a whole mess of trouble this round. ;)
If Griff or Dann fall back you would be able to get there....not happening this round though.

I should like to add here that whichever outsider Drake is grappling/wrestling with, it should not be able to engage in melee with either Griff or Dann. Unless it turns out to be a non-contest afterall and it easily and quickly breaks Drake's hold on itself and throws the Mercenary backwards or off the edge. :)

Word to the wise never stand in front of Brannon with a bow.

So I’m assuming then that throwing big rocks isn’t an option? Also that I didn’t remember any other pths up? (I remember a mention of alternate steeper pathways, but I can’t remember if thise were leading up to the lower cave or to this one as well.

To Drake, perhaps climbing down the ledge, edging across, and climbing back up on our side might be good?

As far as the furs being set alight and thrown over the heads of the black riders, can we do that from the rear ranks or donwe need to be in direct contact with them?

Also, Dann, Griff, how’s your health looking? I still have enough hp to soak another blow if it comes down to it.

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 90):

Something about these online dice rollers.  I am sure natural 1's and 20's don't come up that often.  Something about these electronic random number generators...

In all previous games I've played, I've always taken javelins because of their armour piercing qualities and their high rate of fire.  Guess on this occasion I'm taking the slow loading 88' gun.  Can the party survive 5 rounds before I start blasting away?


Always thought that the dragwars rules should have some tweaks.  For an unarmed man to go head to head with an armed man with a sword, I'd say there would be a big difference.  WFRP had some pretty nice combat initiative rules, though I have a lot of negativity about other aspects of wfrp 1ed combat.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:36, Tue 30 Jan 2018.

You know, maybe I'll just shooting. :D

In reply to Brannon Darrow (msg # 92):

How about throwing flasks of oil?  Should make it real slippery...

@GM: How far is the top of the stairs from the fighting? How many rounds will the reinforcements take to reach and join the battle?



@Usopi: There are no alternative paths up to the Upper Caves that we know about. As far as we know, we are all right now fighting on the only path up - the stone stairway.

Imho our best bet right now is to work together and push the 2 outsiders off the cliff. Think of it this way: if we continue melee, we come up against their superb armor, against which our numbers grant us no advantage. But if we grapple and push them, our numbers matter. We can work together and overwhelm each of them with sheer numbers and multiplied strength and push them off the cliff. There are risks of course - any ungrappled outsiders can still strike at us with their weapons. And also some of us might get pushed off the cliff too. But consider this: this risk isn't greater than meleeing them, but grants us a bigger chance of defeating them.

I think in the next round, Drake's rolls probably grants him a good handhold on one of the outsiders. Perhaps this means the guy is now grappled, cannot strike anymore, and has no choice but to join in the Strength and Reflexes contest with Drake. Nobody helping Drake is gonna end badly for him that's for sure. :( But if someone else comes in to help, we can either push this asshole off, or Drake can disengage and deal with the coming reinforcements.

As for the furs, I think they can only be used up front and not from behind the melee lines. But if some of us are grappling with the outsiders, the furs will also hit our people. So we probably should use the furs for the next round of combat against the approaching reinforcements.


Yeah maybe stop shooting is a good idea. :) 1d6 armor bypass is quite poor odds against normal plate anyway.


Hmmm...are these paths we are fighting on smooth stone? :) If not, then this isn't going to work is it?

Sorry. There are no loose rocks. And this is the only trail up to here.....well...not the only but the only one on this side of the mountain.

Furs from the rear ranks will stand a good chance of setting your midranks alight.

Griff is uninjured....Danns got a wee scratch.

In reply to GM (msg # 95):

Hm, wonder whether we can try some alternative, like surrender...  well, just thinking out loud.

Hm, do we know how far that guy fell?  Wonder if anyone might run down there and bring in some armour piercing hardware...  Should've got myself a shortsword instead of a mace....

These guys are tough, and that is fair enough, but we are certainly have had a streak of bad luck here...

Dann is not in the state of mind of surrendering right now, come what may.

Or throwing flasks of oil onto the Black Riders. Then setting them on fire.

Though I have bad memories of friendly-fire incidents involving, well, fire... :D

Surrender is out of the question for Drake.

And he does have some stuff up his sleeves, that he will not hesitate to use if he really has no choice.

I would like to make a plea here guys - please help with the shoving. Melee will NOT kill off the outsiders fast enough. Even if we hit AND get past their armor on every blow from now on. I am estimating we need at least another 4-5 successful hits on each before they succumb.

[Private to GM: 2 flash pellets in his belt. Tested working. Plus that grapple and rope made of that oily black metal that Drake can use...for some acrobatic moves...]

The one grappling with Drake now, and therefore having his back to Dann and Griff, should be the most exposed. Defence should be 0.

Haha I’d help with the shove if I can, but it’s gotta be griff and Dann right? Maybe I can hold on to them by the belt and help them resist being pulled over with the knight?

As for dice rolls, I think we had this discussion once in one of Bonivant’s star wars games. Didn’t we figure out that there can’t REALLY be a random electronic number generator because they all require some form of equation to process what gets rolled and written equations can only simulate randomness? Not that there’s anything we can do about that, but I do recall us figuring out the equation leaned more towards rolling 1s.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 100):

So, I was checking my inventory, and I have ten feet of rope. I could perhaps throw this to Drake and he could tie himself off so that if he is thrown over the edge I might keep him from death? Alternativley if that would take to long I could do the same to whoever on our side is going to help him? I don’t know how rope tricks work in this system, or if tying a rope around one’s waste would take a full combat round or what, but it’s an option. (Alternativley maybe throw it through to drake and then pull it taut to propel on of the riders over the edge without having to grapple?)

So the problem is Drake is currently grappling with the outsider. :)

And Griff...you are a Warlock? If not, your Spell Expiry is rolled with a 2d6. Expires on a double 6. Statistically, this is better odds than the Warlock's 1d20 expiring on roll of 20.

Wow OK, that wasn't the case in the original rules, right? Will roll 2d6 from now on.

Not a bad plan, Chlainn can take a dive!  He can play his superman thing...  what better to knock off an odourous chainmail black knight than by projecting another knight at him?  Would be worthy of a python sketch...

No this part of the rules is the same, old and new version. The book's explanation is that Warlocks' spells are powerful but "short-lived" compared to other spell casters. If you ask me, the expiry chance is indeed higher for Warlocks but really not that much actually.


You could have Chlainn maybe help out his poor comrade? Remember that bloke Drake? Who is already grappling with one of the black knights? ;)

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 107):

Ok, well, I think I'll tie a rope to myself, Usopi lets go of the rope...  no kidding, we'll do the drake thing but this time with a heavier guy.  At least I should be able to do something by round 3 if not sooner.

So you are joining in the grapple together with Drake against his opponent? Thanks Chlainn! Gotta see how it works out now. Dann and Griff are on the frontline.

Ok I am just thinking...perhaps lassoing may work from the 2nd row, behind the frontline combatants. And once the rope catches, several of us can pull on that rope at the same time to imbalance and jerk the jerk off the cliff...heh pun there...

And since Drake is grappling with one, to avoid lassoing the poor man to his opponent, perhaps the lassoing could be applied on the other outsider instead.

Can we help with the grapple from the 2nd row? I thought we had to be in contact with the enemy to do so.

I’m down to try anything that anyone suggests, though if we want to lasso someone I assume that’d be a reflex check, and Chlainn and I have terrible reflex scores. Maybe Brannon would be able to Lasso someone?

The real question I guess is, do I soend this round tying rope around Lann’s waist so that I can try and catch him if he is dragged over the edge by the black rider (whenever he does get a chance to reach the front lines) or do I give the rooe to someone to try and lasso the second dark rider?
This message was last edited by the player at 16:19, Wed 31 Jan 2018.

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 110):

I figure it'll take a round just to nod and get the idea across, then maybe 2 rounds to tie, then Chlainn will let loose the panzer missile!

Chlainn will put down his arbalest and grab hold of the rope, in case there's no time to tie....

Lol, I can tie it around your waist while you crank the arbalest and presumably I can tell you the plan while I tie.

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 112):

Should be easier around my leg.  Around the waist seems to impede my arms.  These guys are massive so its like fighting ogres almost.

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 111):

So dio I or chlainn head butt the enemy or both?

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 114):

Just hold the line.  We tanks will handle the rest.

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 115):

Usopi, just a reminder, don't let go of the rope!

So Chlainn, I’m still pretty sure you can’t charge yet, because there’s no open space to reach the baddies yet.

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 117):

Wish we had a bloodsword style map.  Maybe you can hang the rope somewhere and I can swing into the air!

Might as well keep cranking up the arbalest...  That is if I can't fly!
This message was last edited by the player at 05:55, Fri 02 Feb 2018.

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 118):

Translated into Bloodsword terms there is a square grid 2x8. The right boundary of the long sides is a stone wall, the left boundary a sheer drop.


BR3  XXX
XXX  XXX
DRA  XXX
BR2  BR1
GRI  DAN
CHL  USO
LAN  BRA
XXX  APH

XXX = blank space.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:01, Fri 02 Feb 2018.

In reply to GM (msg # 119):

Ok, it’s a bit awkward but Chlainn will take a leap over and grab BR2's legs.  Griff might get distracted but with Chlainn anchored on 'the mountain' I figure he can get away with some wild things….


….or at least try to.  Dagger in left hand, he reaches out with his right....

Whelp, this should be interesting. If you guys manage to send the knight over the ledge see if you can grab On to each other. Otherwise I’m not sure how Drake plans on surviving. :D

On the other hand it looks like Griff criticaled with 16 strength, so hopefully the wounded one is dead. :P

Drake's not diving over the cliff hoping to take the outsider together with him. Like what Chlainn seems to be doing. Instead he's trying to shove the outsider off the edge without himself going over too. There's probably a risk of him going over, but yeah, not a certainty. Sure he will try and grab Chlainn if he needs to.

I can hold that arbalest, if needed. I mean, I could take a shot with it, too, but I think my track record suggests that wouldn't be a good idea... :D

Nooooooo!!! Don't put the elephant gun pew pew in the hands of the bobo shooter! He's gonna kill us! ;D

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 124):

By the time he loads it, combat might've been resolved…  I suppose siege situations are a different thing….

don't think I would personally do what Chlainn is doing, but remember, this is the medieval age and people had less heavy metals, dioxins and other persistent chems messing up their brains...

Suppose, it would probably be a multi stage thing, grab onto the ledge, then reach for a leg...

In reply to GM (msg # 119):

Does that mean I can't strike the enemy since I have an ally in front of me?
Hmm

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 126):

Theres' griff and chlainn in front.  Chlainn is all set up and ready for take off.  all systems go.  Have a safe flight!

Anyone else here win a copy of the original Dragon Warriors paperback from the competition in White Dwarf?

Not me.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 122):

Lol, I know you’re not TRYING to, but the last action of that bad guy was to drop his weapon amd grab you tightly, so I figure if he goes over he’s gonna try to take you with him.

Absolutely. You are right. Heh... And with that new outsider approaching from behind, Drake's options are alittle limited. Extreme situations require decisions that involve extreme risks...:D

Pfft. ONE of you at most.

I have a question on the rope check math. Are the -# values based on how far over strength the rolls were? Would that mean that if someone has a bad strength score it would actually be safer for them to NOT help hold the rope? I have no issues if that’s the case, and can see how that makes sense, but it would mean we try to hope the rope a different way as this fight goes on.

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 133):

Is there room?  Maybe Chlainn should start pulling himself up.  Mind you, he's only got a dagger.  Maybe he can join in the wrestling...

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 134):

Game wise, is it possible for me to help in chlainn in grappling the foe? If not can we fall back so the front guys can pull back and we have enough room to do a royal rumble?

Well, we’ve got 2 Dark Rider’s dead, one being grappled, and one just.... watching cause he thinks it’s entertaining? That’s how I read that part. I also am assuming that the weird voice is the cult leader we were told about and he’s slaughtering the borderers with crazy magic. A part of Usopi just wants to stop holding the rope and rush past these two dark riders to go engage the cult leader, but the other part has sworn himself to keeping Chlainn from falling over the cliff. :(

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 136):

Well, the tide is changing, Chlainn will somehow pull himself up, given sufficient room, then we go charge on!

Kind of.....Lanns botch kind of throws everything out of whack.  The more you have helping the better...as long as no one rolls a 20. Also for each successful person I'll add extra bonuses...just last round only Usopi rolled well...basically more people is better no matter their scores.


If Usopi had 20'd as well there would be a lot more room for Griff and Dann on the path. :D
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:45, Sat 03 Feb 2018.

 next round it is possible for you to move into Chlainns vacated spot. Your still behind Griff and Dann, but one of them can move up to let you in now one of the enemy is down.

Pulling back is about ten minutes rearward/downward march on old stone stairs before you get to a spot where the path is slightly wider.

In reply to GM (msg # 139):

Well, things don't seem so bad.  I thought we'd be on a 2 vs 2 stand off forever.  Now that we can manoevre into position...  Chlainn will realize his situation, get scared and drag himself back to safety, if theres room.



Or you can tie the rope somewhere and leave him to hang around...

Theoretically....and barring fun dice results you can climb up and be where Drake was standing before he went all pre-suplex....of course you may catch a Drake/Hadrik in the face on the way up depending how things go.

In reply to GM (msg # 139):

Great I move into his spot n use my blade to smite e enemy while my stats grant me a bonus to hit n do damage;)

It's the enemy in front of Griff that's down, right?

I don’t think so? the enemy in front of you is the one Drake is on, so that would make him still alive. The one in front of Dann is the one that died as far as I can tell.

Correct.

In reply to GM (msg # 145):

So would I b able to stick my sword into the last enemy since I m behind griff? Without harming him or drake of. Purse.

There’s an open apace adjacent to the still fighting bad guy that he could move in to right? The space where the other dark rider died?

BTW GM I noticed you rolled an ABR for me. Do we not skip that on a 1??

I did?  I made a roll for you to avoid being knocked off the ledge by Chlainns insane rope antics.

There is a space vacated by Chlainn...theres currently a very taut rope there bit Lanns Enhanced abilities can avoid it. If/When Dann moves up, Lann can move through Chlainns former spot into Danns former spot.

My mistake GM :)

Lol, there’s lots of big fail dice rolls in this round. :D

So I have a question, Chlainn and the baddy are in the same space now correct? so I would be able to help Drake try and shove the prone knight over the edge now? Drake has the reflexes and I've got the strength, so maybe we can actually get this guy over the edge and move on to save the borderers before they all get slaughtered.

Absolutely.

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Hmmm...Usopi you will wanna post that last in the IC thread...;)

This is quality slapstick!

In reply to Brannon Darrow (msg # 157):

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 156):

Oops, that what I get for trying to write a post while my roommates rush me to play video games with them. :P

Wow...this fight is proving to be really difficult... Should learn from the experience! :)

I also find the dice roller suspicious. What are the odds of having so many 20s ans 1s in a single combat?

In reply to Dann of Clan Valin (msg # 161):

Oh, this could be bad, two of our guys rush this guy...


I've always had issues with these electronic random number generators.  I know it was a mess in xcom 2012, and yet some people try to justify it as a perception thing.  I remember someone kept rolling 00 on a d100 when rolling up 40k rogue trader armies and had vortex grenades everywhere.  I'm sure he rolled them up after 20-30 tries....

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 162):

Well we could switch to using Orokos if you lot never want to ever pass another die roll. :D

Their are some kinks with the rpol roller but its the best I've come across so far....besides...lots of 20s and 1s make things more...interesting....:D

I concur. Plus, I don’t know what Orikos is and don’t want to learn it. ;)

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 164):

Will have to do for now.  Maybe I should get some missile with a faster fire rate, they'll end up phasing in and out and materializing in interesting places....

In reply to GM (msg # 163):

I don't see many 01s when rolling for items. Issit just the d20 that's jinx? lol I dint mond rolling my own crystal did!

So, quick question, am I dead? :D

If I’m fallling and I can try to grab the cliff face or something then cool. Or maybe if I can try and ride the black rider down and land on him to cushion the bllow a bit?

Miracle Max the Wizard: Turns out your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. See, mostly dead is still slightly alive. ;)


There are a few different options...we'll see what the others come up with in the few seconds they have to act.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:56, Sat 10 Feb 2018.

In reply to GM (msg # 168):

Way I see it, being bigger and heavier, he'd end up at the bottom.  Heard that when people jump the torso always hits first.

And since he pulled me off after we’d shoved him, he started falling first as well, so maybe landing on a couple of plate armored corpses is less painfull then just hitting the ground. :P

Sorry Usopi. Stupid plan was mine. Mostly. And you guys followed my lead.

Wow...worst rolls ever. And in actual fact worst plan ever - since it relies so heavily on rolls to succeed...

Ah, for all it’s faults I wouldn’t mind D&D’s feather fall spell. :P

Relax. It's a game. :)

If you were following Chlainns plans you'd still be in the woods in three months time arguing over plans for siege towers. :D

In reply to GM (msg # 173):

Yes, but sappers make use of their time.  We would have created so many traps, all the wild life would've been killed off for 5 square miles.  Think of the first rambo movie and how sapper john rambo managed to trap and spike most of those cops.

Uh? Who you trying to stab Lann? ;)

Should I post again trying to do something?(Catch Drake, grab a cliff ledge, ride baddy to the ground) Or am I in limbo till the next round?

Just feeling bad if Usopi were to die...:(

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 177):

Maybe he can come back as the party healer.  Not sure but I thought Usopi had massive reflexes as well as strength?  Oh, hold on, no, we knights are really fat and slow.

Lol, I have a gimp leg actually. But I can just rp as my hound Gat. He’s about as bad ass as me anyway. :P

Maybe Griff should drop his weapon instead and attempt to grab Usopi while someone (Lann?) tries to make the armored enemy release his grip on him? Griff enhanced strength might allow him to lift Usopi back to safety.

Chlainn, Drake, Lann and Griff, all have a chance to catch Usopi as he tumbles over the edge. Drake has already tried and failed miserably. Shall the rest all make an attempt to do so?

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 181):

I let the GM make the rolls.  I'm whipping my rope towards him.  Wasn't sure what the correct term is, but I think you'd call it whipping.

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 182):

Blessed lunar new year to all! Been busy celebrating the new year and battling a bout of flu. Apologies for tardy postings.
So we caught usopia?

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 183):

We might all go down if they don't get a handhold.  Chlainn has no choice, he's tied to the rope and it might take too long to cut the rope.  He wouldn't do that anyway.

Blessed Chinese New Year Lann, and everyone. :)

Hope you get well soon Lann.

Not sure about Usopi yet. We gotta each post our next actions, and GM will resolve them and post the result.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 185):

Sorry Lann, I know you post from your phone but its a little hard to interpret short posts some times.

Are you attacking one of the two armoured figures in melee with the kids or chasing the bloke who just ran inside the cave?

Is there space for Brannon to help with the rope? Or is he just going to be in the way?

I figure he'd be more likely to help Usopi if he can, but if that means he's just stood around doing nothing, he'd probably head up with Dann and Lann to see what he can do in the fight up top.

Well you have 3 comrades swinging off a cliff, while 1 comrade is about to be pulled over by the combined weight...I am sure there is something Brannon can do to help? ;)

Like throw down a rope secured somewhere firm? ;)

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 188):

Maybe you can cut the rope?  Chlainn wouldn't, but thats not to say someone else wouldn't.

Rope I have - not sure how much space there is to secure it. I have a shovel, but no pick - I guess I could use it as a makeshift grapple and wedge it in somewhere...

Edit: There we go. Not sure how long that will take in game time - perhaps the GM will be kind enough to let me retrofit that into Brannon's standing around.

Otherwise, the rope'll probably reach you just as you get back to the top. :D
This message was last edited by the player at 10:04, Mon 19 Feb 2018.

In reply to Brannon Darrow (msg # 190):


Hmmm, ok. I'll do the round on the stairs and hopefully Lann will clarify so I can do the up top. :)

In reply to GM (msg # 186):

Oops, chasing the guy who went into the cave. Sorry I will amend the post.

Are we moving a tad fast? I thought GM said it would be a few rounds before we got up top, which I assumed meant he was going to run a few rounds up top before he brought us back in to it. If not I’ll post actions for what specifically I want to do up top.

Ooopps...you are right. Sorry GM. Missed that somehow. I'll edit my post...

GM, let us know when the fabulous cliff hanger acrobatics group reach the top and are able to act. :D This includes Usopi, Chlainn, Brannon, Griff, Drake, Aphail, 2 Borderer lads, and Lute.

As of now, we are all moving quickly topside towards the sound of fighting.

Lutes busy minding the horse.

In reply to GM (msg # 196):

Once I know what Lanns up to in the cave re. spells/following etc. I'll tee it all up. Getting up there and chatting will be as far as those below get. Dann will have another round of combat before then.

Can I attempt to both convince the borderers to stop fighting each other and help us against the dark riders AND charge the dark rider still attacking the borderers? I’m not sure how action economy works in Dragon Warriors per round, and I don’t want to overstep if I need to pick one at a time.

I'm fairly flexible on how much talking you can get done in a round. So go for it.

Whelp, if we can unit the borderers as one and just swarm these two riders with our superior numbers maybe we can weedle them down fast enough to help Lann.

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 200):

Let the panzers advance!  All others will support them!

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 201):

Hm…  Chlainn would ordinarily go save the youths since they seem to be under equipped.  Is Dann spraying arterial all over?  I guess even that ain't as bad as getting cut down.  Chlainn has hit the dirt once anyway….

Once we're done murdering these dudes, I want A) probably this dude's sword cause it sounds cool, and B) to take off his helmet and get a good look at him. The level with which they seem to shrug at everything from team deaths to being set on fire is... to much for a normal person.

Well, that's tough luck I guess (even though Dann was actually trying to retreat). It's the game, if there is no risk there is no sense of danger and no reward.

GM I want to thank you for all these months playing with you, that was really enjoyable. I really went into Dann, it is a shame to see him go that way. I am looking forward to playing in one of your games again.

Sorry...I didn't get that from the IC posts. Dann is dead? I had thought perhaps he was seriously injured...

Because he was already on the retreat and his opponent had its head covered with burning fur, I had thought that Dann would be alright...

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 205):

Oh damn.  Guess we didn't need the tanks and needed more artillery support/medics.  Kores probably could've laid waste to everything or revive the fallen.


Maybe you can be our new medic?  I'm not into marvel super heroes but it seems like we all need our special powers.

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 206):

I guess we shouldn't split the party.  This was how Rommel managed to defeat 800 british tanks with a force of 300.  300 plus all the resources he had to defeat british armour, and then he had the initiative to push on, strike where he wanted.

Oooops, yeah. Didn’t realize Dann was dead.

Also, even if he is dead I’m assuming that you’d be allowed to make a new character in this game.

Also also if he is dead, what’s our policy on looting a companion’s body? Because that +3 shield would be a bummer to bury. :P

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 208):

Uh. When I added the wound to Danns character yesterday he was reduced to 1 hp.

He's rough but definetely not dead.

Not Dead.

1 hp.

If you go unconcious I'll note it in the OOC section.

If your enemy hadn't critted you would still be on 6 hp.

That's a real relief...:D

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 212):

Chlainn is bleeding everywhere.  He'll need support when he goes down....

I'll wait for a few more IC posts before moving on.

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 206):

Yes I think we need more healers. I m almost out of mp. Hope we are near regeneration time.

You've got a couple of hours til sunset.

In reply to GM (msg # 216):

Ok I think e need a lot of luck n team work to kill the big bad wolf!

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 217):

Um...well hopefully Dann comes back to see that he's not dead..... :(

Alright, I read the messages but I was not in a position to post until now.

I am still trying to wrap my head around what happened. Dann started this fight with his full 13HP. He took a 5 HP wound fighting his first opponent in the stairs, then after defeating him he went upstairs, slipped and took 2 HP more, got wounded a second time by his next opponent for 5 HP and a third time for running into flames (must be some kind of borderer blindness...) for 5 HP. In my book, it all adds up to 17 HP. So Dann should be at -4, with no hope for immediate healing attention, having used his only healing potion to help a friend.

Except if I have missed something, things look rather bleak.

Now I hear you GM, and if we consider that by miracle Dann avoids death (for example, by having the sense to avoid fire when retreating? Or maybe the wound wasn't as bad because he used his armor / shield to protect himself?), I suppose he is still standing? In that case he will keep away from the fight for some time to recollect. If he goes unconscious, the current post is still valid I suppose, if read from the point of view of the character.

Please advise...

Ahhh! Your right! I didn't go back far enough. Your character sheet still said 6 hp..which i think tripped me up.

 The last wound you retreated and despite being blinded and on fire your opponent managed to roll a crit....which I wasn't really expecting. :D

So Lets go with Danns unconcious on the ground, but Griff can stabilise him this round with his Rustic Healers Kit getting him back from Dead to Unconcious...so from -4 to -2.

I'll also point out that Brannon has a 2 Healing Balms that he was given by Colm before the journey.

How does that work.

Sorry I fucked up. :)

Well, this will not be held against you: it is hard enough to keep track of things as it is.

Dann did take risks. I figured that he would retreat as soon as he was down to 1HP and others were around to distract the opposition. Evidently, that was not enough precautions.

I guess that at this stage, Dann's life is not in his hands anymore!

:)

See IC.

You can take Aphail until Dann rouses.

In reply to GM (msg # 222):

Surely Dann can come back, maybe missing a limb or something.  Kores has a solution, last time I checked he was 13 experience below 6th rank....  maybe one of his friend materialized from ongus....

Man oh man do I want that champion’s sword. (I’d also want the armor except that it would make me look like all scary and evil and we can’t have that.)

Thank you for the offer, but I will be out of town for the next 4 days. Dann's predicament actually comes at a good time (if I may says so)...

Cool.

Ok, I'll wait a couple of hours for Griff or Brannon then post next round.

Just got back from hols, can you PLS NPC me for this round while I catch up. And thanks for the heroics, Griff reacted instinctively, given time he might have decided one less aristocrat is a good idea ;)

Give me some Int and Looks rolls Drake and I'll get interpretive.

Just note they are a fair way from the edge.

Looks roll? Hah...but the outsider can't see?! :D Here are my rolls anyway:

07:30, Today: Drake Taubron rolled 17 using 1d20.  Looks check.
07:29, Today: Drake Taubron rolled 12 using 1d20.  Intelligence check.

07:31, Today: Drake Taubron rolled 8 using 1d20.  Looks check 2.
07:31, Today: Drake Taubron rolled 10 using 1d20.  Intelligence check 2.

vs Looks score 10; Int score 13.

How far are they from the edge? I would have guessed not more than 10m...
This message was last edited by the player at 23:36, Mon 26 Feb 2018.

10-15m, its a pretty wide shelf with about 20 people on it currently ( you mob, black riders + borderers.

Hmm, do we want to do this lure strategy then? Might be jusy as effective to keep fighting them now that they’re blind and on fire.

I guess it's up to individuals. I'll just say that this strategy apparently DOES NOT put you in danger of being hit for crazy damage by the black riders' weapons, while giving a chance to still kill them dead.

Anyways, just wanna note that that last black rider with the commander epithet is almost completely fresh and hits with a wallop. And hence bloody dangerous. Drake will continue to lure him over the cliff.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 232):

We're engaged.  I think Chlainn will shuffle to the side so that someone can take him from the flanks or rear.

So the guy we’re fighting just killed one of the borderers. Are the other’s that attacked him with cudgels still engaged with him or did their friend being set on fire kill their courage?

Still there....for now...

In reply to GM (msg # 235):

Is the baddie I m following the priest?

Well hes the only one you've seeb not in armour....so likely.

In reply to GM (msg # 237):

Hopefully I can survive lol

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 238):

Can we manage a bloodsword style map?  I got a vague idea I'm in combat with the captain.  Is he being lead on by Drake or is that the other one?  Or am I fighting the non-captain?

Chlainn will keep attacking.

Rimfax? We have a devil worshiper to deal with here...

Captain: Drake, Griff, Brannon, Aphail

Champion: Usopi, Chlainn, 2 lads

In reply to GM (msg # 241):

Ah, ok, and I've managed to piss him off...  good.....

In reply to GM (msg # 241):

I can't hit the priest even with an attack of 18?

18? Missed with ATT 15. Oh....Enhancement..I'll check wxpiry theb edit if necessary.

Update: Edited IC.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:49, Mon 05 Mar 2018.

In reply to GM (msg # 244):

Naturally, Chlainn was holding the zweihander all this time whilst he was fighting.  He will drop the Mace and then use his zweihander, which was on the other hand anyway….

Whelp, sounds like it sucks to be Jon at the moment. :P

This NPC's time is up. :D

Aren't we still fighting??

Griff's opponent is dead.

Dead dead or just Mostly Dead?


(I mean considering you guys have done 20 points of damage to him I would HOPE it was Dead Dead. :P )
This message was last edited by the player at 10:37, Mon 05 Mar 2018.

I thought Griff was helping Brannon tend to Dann?

Or Brannon was helping Griff tend to Dann, as you prefer! :D

Nah, he moved back to combat last round, even got a blow in.

Anyone else left to hit? If not will change my post.

In reply to GM (msg # 244):

Yup was thinking priest or sorcerer would not have high defense. Oh I think damage is 5? Since enhancement is +1 Dmg?

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 247):

Possibly my turn soon..: lol hard to decide what to do but as they say when in doubt, just attack ;)
Besides if i m hth with the priest, v hard for birdie to hit me w missile attack?
This message was last edited by the player at 15:16, Mon 05 Mar 2018.

Help is coming to you Lann. Meanwhile, if there isn't anything else you can see to do, then attack away.

Added +1 dam.

In reply to GM (msg # 256):

Surely Usopi wouldn't have a problem removing a sword from the stone?

:P depends how crazy magical the sword is, how strong the rider was, etc etc. I just don’t want to delay getting in to Lann if pulling the sword out would take a full action or something.

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 255):

Hi GM m I still able to attack?

Yes.

In reply to GM (msg # 260):

Love how Lann is bored by being one roll away from dying from poison or contracting a fatal, disfiguring disease.

In reply to GM (msg # 261):

No sound of fighting?  Left or down eh?  If we can't tell, and if Chlainn can't get an answer from them borderers….

In reply to GM (msg # 261):

Oh I m bored by missing two hits by one! I would have killed him if I didn't roll two 13s?
My looks already 6;)

Keep trying Lann! You can make it! :)

And Usopi...nice touch there with the frightened Borderers. ;)

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 264):

I hope so! Ain't priests supposed to be weak? Hope he doesn't have 15 hp! Else I have to pray u guys arrive pronto!

I hope u guys can hear my mighty roar!
This message was last edited by the player at 12:21, Thu 08 Mar 2018.

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 265):

Number generator is nuts.  To think that great game designer Julian Gollop was defending it as a 'perception' issue.  Julian is a damned great game designer in the 80's, british game designer who moved to bulgaria.  He said the weird results you get, like 94% on target shots missing to be 'perception' issues.

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 266):

Ok I got a critical hit so I should not complain though I remember I had a d20 die that was skewed to rolling 20...

Is the priest dead? If he is we liberated the peasants? Let's invite colm back to b king! N loot this place clean!

Generally if all your insides are outside and your spine is severed you are dead, yes. ;)

You havent even arrived at your destination for message delivery yet.

In reply to GM (msg # 268):

Are you certain?  There are mysteries beyond your comprehension and I've watched Kurt Russell's 'The Thing'.  Perhaps we should incinerate every scrap....

In reply to Kores Varias (msg # 269):

Ok I search n loot n then burn! I think we shd put a clever borderer to guide these peasants.
Hmm do we get some xp?

Aren’t we short one gross creature corpse?

No one has told you it exists.

In reply to GM (msg # 272):

I shall cut the priest head off and parade it around the cavern. It should make the enemies weaken their resolve and cheer the oppressed borderer a.

Lol, I know noone has told me about it in character. :D

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 271):

What gross creature corpse? The flying thing?
Tank God for maille. Mayb I shd wear plate in future n suffer penalties.

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 275):

Lann: Nothing on the body but the dagger, a pouch of snuff and a bronze necklace in the shape of a horse skull wound with serpents.
Chlainn: No scabbards.
Usopi and others: With the aid of light and hellish red glowing eyes, which Lann is currently displaying and Usopi may wish to notice, it can be seen that the ceiling is some 30m up and covered in stalactites and shawls...there are hollows and possibly other tunnels up there.
Drake: the dagger is wickedly sharp and the pommel is in the shape of a horses skull. There is a reservoir in the pommel filled with some green syrup like Assassins lotion which funnels out along small grooves in the blade.
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In reply to GM (msg # 276):

Is it dusk? If so I cast neutralize toxins on Jon. Else I can only cast heal injury.

It is just on dusk so you can cast both.

In reply to GM (msg # 278):

Knowing Chlainn, I doubt he would go anywhere near those corpses, and will push, prod or lift the corpses with the other end of his zweihander...

Well...you did say he was breaking down the priests body into smaller pieces...and he was a carrier....

But you rolled incredibly well anyway so no issue.

In reply to GM (msg # 280):

Ok, could've got some on him, blood spurts and all.  Chlainn will be even more careful in future.  Medieval biohazard proofing.  What he needs is some animal gut membrane gloves, sulphur and leech extract....

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 281):

Damn thought it was poison. Now we best scram.

Is there a reason we’re taking the priest’s head? If all the corpses in here are carrying a plauge then taking the head back to some population center would likely just spread the disease, which would just make things worse and give these baddies one last victory from beyond the grave. I’d say just toss it on the fire with the rest of the dead and lets get out of here. :P

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 283):

The youths need to be reassured that the priest is dead and they can do their own thing.  Maybe spare bears from now on.  Without proof they might avoid this area and still take orders from strangers.

Maybe something else would suffice.  But at least Chlainn ain't carrying it.

I think we need to show it to the...  female leader?  We met their group when we pincushioned the bear earlier right?

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 284):

I think we put it in a cloth bag? Or use the priest possessions as proof of our doughty deeds?

Ok so...

We cleared out the most dangerous outsiders - those champions and the priestess. So what is left is to clear these caves as best as we can, and then "give it back" to the borderers themselves to conduct their cleansing rituals and what have yous.

Right now, we need to get Jon to a healer who can help. And the rest of us need to rest and heal up.

So...
1. Sweep the caves and clear out any dangerous beings still there - like that flying monster. But we do not need to clear it "spick and span". Just the most dangerous ones. Leave the remaining to the clans.
2. Sweep the caves and "retrieve" all the kidnapped Borderer kids. Gather them together and march them home. Or at least down the mountain.
3. Get Jon to the nearest healer.

So Drake's priority will be to get Jon out to the town or village where there are priests who might be able to help. Lann's spell has helped keep Jon alive for longer, giving more time for us. He will probably pick up Lute on the way at the bottom of the mountain and proceed onwards.

As for the rest of the party, maybe you can decide together how to organize yourselves to do #1 and #2?

And after everything, we can meet back somewhere? And continue the adventure? I distinctly remember Strawberry and Boar...still waiting for us to defeat em..:)

If you take Jon to the city that rules these borderers they might feel indebted to us for saving them. Take aphail so he can vouch for you? If I recall correctly I think it was the same one that the cattlemen Chlain Griff and I were traveling with were headed to? Maybe take Lann and Dann since Dann is so badly wounded and Lann can cast heals while yall travel to make sure Jon survives? (Casting some on us before he leaves of course if we’re tasked with killing the gross flying thing.)

If the head is just to prove to these borderers that they’re safe then cool, we can get them all outside, dump it on the ground to show them, and then immediatly burn it as well.

I figure if we burn the carrier corpses and maybe some of those furs we brought upto fight the black riders in a big pile in this main chamber the smoke might drive the flying creature out and in to our waiting weapons?

If Drake takes Jon to that city then we can lead the borderers back there as well and just meet up there. Yall have some sort of message to deliver to somebody. As far as I know Chlainn, Griff, and I are free agents to do whatever, so we can just tag along.

Priest.

Did you want to re-examine that plan with the new information you have....can deduce....

:)

Isn't Glissom the only city in, well, Glissom?

There won't be any big settlements nearby.

Still - sounds like a plan, though I'm not sure how popular we'll be bringing a diseased person into company. Might be best if someone goes in to scope out the aid first?

I thought we were still in Ereworn. Not sure where in the mountains exactly we are, but the borderer cattlemen spoke of going to their lord to tell him about the cultists we were headed to kill.

Your in Glissom...well..the border is a little fluid but almost certainly in Glissom.

Indeed it is.  Your headed for a broch loyal to Colms clan...current politics are...well the npcs you met recently have covered most of it.

Does Brannon recall who and where you are headed?

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 287):

How many borderers are there? A few tens or hundreds? We should bring them out. They are farmers not dwarves. I think I m down to 3 or 4 mps. Mystic can heal also?

You were told the numbers before but there have been fatalities since.

In total there are 20+ survivors, most are weak, none appear to show symptoms of the Plague.....four are pregnant...

Calling borderers farmers is liable to cause issues...sure, they're a little more civilised than the folk of Lanns Clan but they've been Reavers within living memory.

Mystics can heal themselves only.
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In reply to GM (msg # 294):

That's not enough to make a serfdom. Maybe we can lead them back to their village? Hmm pregnant with what is the question.
I sense deeper trouble. Ok so do we know more about this rimfax guy?

Btw is Brannon the priest and griff the mystic? Usopia and chlainn are both knights? Aphail is an npc?
This message was last edited by the player at 23:51, Mon 12 Mar 2018.

I thought the cattlemen implied that these borderers were from the same clan as them, as we were close to whatever their town is called. (I’d have to check back through the thread and see.)

Yeah, the pregnant ones could be an issue, but Usopi isn’t willing to abandon or kill them just because their spawn COULD be some sort of demon creature, when it’s just as likely that the priest was just impregnating them for his own kicks. And we CERTAINLY can’t wait around here till they give birth.

I believe you are right about all those class allocations, though not being partied with brannon from the start I can’t be sure. Aphail is the borderer You guys captured at the lower cave.

Rimfax I gave you IC knowledge about a few posts back. It may occur to Lann to ask Brannon about it but the only other one to look at the priests belongings so far is Drake....and its not really his area of expertise.

Brannon= priest.
Griff= Mystic
Both knights
Aphail NPC Hunter.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:27, Tue 13 Mar 2018.

Aphail is the guide the cattlemen sent with you.

There is also a dying woman in the lower cave that I don't think anyone outside was ever told about.

The Clan situation is currently...slightly...complicated, but thats basically right.

In reply to GM (msg # 298):

Was there any loot?  Our characters might not have any knowledge of disease control, but lets get mobile people outside, after looting valuables.  Those who are ill we should leave some water with them whilst we get out and just notify whomever authorities are in the area.

Those bear killers, they were headed somewhere right?  Didn't they have a leader?

Here.

They did....well two...kinda...probably upstairs...remember their names and what they look like?

Judging from what Chlainn saw while butchering the priest, he was in no position to sire anything...being castrated.

The group with the female leader is from a neighbouring clan. The bear hunters leaders were two lads who didn't like each other much.

In reply to GM (msg # 302):

I hope they have more love for each other after this.

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 303):

Ok, so I'm keeping all 20 silver florins then!

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 304):

Haha so do we find more magical items? Oh dann ok already?
Btw boss can give some xp please? Lol

What about Griff!

It's the poor what gets the blame, It's the rich what gets the pleasure, Isn't it a blooming shame?

In reply to Griff Koehler (msg # 306):

You're not that active for me to recall…  and I can only glance back a few posts.  Chlainn reluctantly passed over 10 silver….

In reply to Chlainn Vacrolann (msg # 307):

Oh well after so many near deaths all we got are some crummy items. Haha what's our next step guys? Continue on to deliver the letters? I think we rest a night while I expend all my magic to heal everyone. No point moving half injured.

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 308):

*Evil sadistic laugh*

In reply to Kores Varias (msg # 309):

Well no one ever said doing the right thing paid well. :D

In reply to GM (msg # 310):

That's quite true.. I wonder how things will turn out bad we ignored them.

In reply to Toirneach Lann (msg # 311):

Maybe you guys can rob merchant caravans?  Lots of cash and good there.  Y'know, become outlaws?

I guess life goes on...the adventure goes on...and our character development goes on. The decision to help or ignore is part of our character development...

In reply to Kores Varias (msg # 312):

Why not kill the king and we take over the kingdom?

Hmmmm...that's within you desired character development? :) It's not in mine for Drake...hah...

In reply to Drake Taubron (msg # 315):

Ah, but despite any 'good' things King Hadric has done, we only need to build up the propaganda that he is a sadistic cat killer, steals food from children and is associated with failed harvests and in general a bad guy, and then we can revolt and overthrow him!

Profitable too!