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OOC Thread No. 8.

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Usopi Venia
player, 1230 posts
Large knight whose
always optimistic.
Thu 28 May 2020
at 16:08
  • msg #39

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

I’ve already got magical gear, so the harness should go to a knight that doesn’t. Do Uthen and Turren have any?
Deise
player, 463 posts
An outcast
Thu 28 May 2020
at 16:33
  • msg #40

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

In reply to Colm Cernach (msg # 38):

I'd rather the spoils go to PCs over NPCs. The rationale that we dont want Doron to die could apply equally to the PCs.
Colm Cernach
player, 1089 posts
Cernach Chieftain?
Gliss Hearth Father
Thu 28 May 2020
at 18:18
  • msg #41

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Deise:
In reply to Colm Cernach (msg # 38):

I'd rather the spoils go to PCs over NPCs. The rationale that we dont want Doron to die could apply equally to the PCs.

No it doesn't. PC's leave, get killed (ask Brannon), retire or get booted. We are trying to build a country here, caught in the grip of an evil darkness. Everyone is expendable, but having a king to rule would be quite usefull.
Deise
player, 464 posts
An outcast
Thu 28 May 2020
at 19:30
  • msg #42

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

In reply to Colm Cernach (msg # 41):
I understand your point of view but I dont agree with it.
GM
GM, 4336 posts
Games Master.
Thu 28 May 2020
at 20:17
  • msg #43

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Leofwyn:
Also just checking, is Leaf not allowed to cast 'Brigantia’s Heart'? Or is she meant to ask permission or something?


I think the idea forwarded was that both Leaf and Comm cast it, one within the hall and one within the village square
Colm Cernach
player, 1090 posts
Cernach Chieftain?
Gliss Hearth Father
Thu 28 May 2020
at 20:55
  • msg #44

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Deise:
In reply to Colm Cernach (msg # 41):
I understand your point of view but I dont agree with it.

Colm's lieutenant Rachel has magic weapons. It's what marks her Colm's Officer.
Sir Turren Uvedale
player, 239 posts
A handsome knight,
Immaculately presented.
Thu 28 May 2020
at 22:49
  • msg #45

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

In reply to Usopi Venia (msg # 39):

Turren has Falchorus, magic javelin, and still has 5 fey-touched arrows. I'm not big on meta division of magic or treasure, so I'd look at it like this: Turren's major flaw is generosity. He'd not take the magic armour unless the other knights refused it or offered it to him. And then he'd need to polish it so it shone. Darth Vader helm style.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:22, Fri 29 May 2020.
Caith Cernach
player, 1406 posts
Wandering Healer & Sage.
She Who Bites Wolves Back
Fri 29 May 2020
at 01:25
  • msg #46

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Giles:
Did everyone else see the magical assessment of the Warlock’s gear- the potion presents some interesting possibilities


Thanks for the scholarly skills, Giles, and it's greatly appreciated. :)

GM in IC thread:
The Amulet is an Amulet of Sovereignty over Violence.

The sword is a +1 two-handed sword which requires a strength of 16 to wield, it seems to have a vague coldness about it but what this means cannot be determined as yet.

The plate and maille is a +1 harness and weighs helf what a normal harness of the same design would.

The potion will extend by 1 day any spell placed upon a person if that spell is subject to a Spell Expiry Roll. There are 2 draughts left.


Thanks boss! :)

The amulet...
Caith already has a pretty magical necklace of her own, and left another more problematic one behind in roughly the same place Deise's boots are, IMHO that disqualifies her from any claim on the Amulet, lovely as it is.

Leaf could use a protective device that does not encumber more than Doron, who can wear heavier mundane or magical armour than she can. Spellcasters in heavy armour spell failure rates vary, and last I knew, Doron is many things to his people (Mostly uncomplimentary if you ask said people!) but spellcaster isn't one of them.

Keeping the best bet Clan Cernach have of getting back into official existence alive is a primary goal here, sure, but I'd ask Doron about who he'd rather see stay alive through it's use, if you're so keen on him having it, Colm.

The blade...
Caith's not Strength 16 either, so again, she's not interested in owning it, but would be interested in it's strangely cold metal, what enchantment that might be caused by, and tales of the folk who made it.

The armour...
Again, Caith's interested in the armour, but not in owning it.

The oily coating is an effect she would like to understand the practical use of (Beyond keeping ferrous metal rust free with minimal maintenance) and method of it's making for her own curiosity's sake.

The potion...
Oh dear, that's a spellcaster catfight waiting to happen, as we have no less than five spellcasters - Colm, Leaf, Caith, Giles and Kores - and only two doses of the stuff.

Pragmatically speaking, Kores and Colm are the two closest to being able to replicate the potion later, so I'd argue for keeping one dose for research later on if the party survives to worry about such matters, because that's an alchemical means of making a lot of gold out of any number of spellcasters, not to mention a formula well worth anyone with the ability to be learning.

OK, now who does Caith have to duel to get the other dose?
Form an orderly line... XD

More seriously, we don't know when or what spell we most want extended until it happens, right? Keep it in party loot, save it for when it's needed and we'll figure it out when it happens. Might have to sacrifice the research dose to that end as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:05, Fri 29 May 2020.
Caith Cernach
player, 1407 posts
Wandering Healer & Sage.
She Who Bites Wolves Back
Fri 29 May 2020
at 02:28
  • msg #47

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Osric Grim:
Caith Cernach:
Osric Grim:
Sounds grand! Surely that and eating a dead man’s lunch will bring Osric back to close to full health? ;-)


I seem to recall a lecture from Colm earlier about sticking to the party's own food supply and Leaf's elementally made offerings?


Osric probably forgot Colm’s instructions, but if he did remember he probably assumed that didn’t apply to the Warlock’s tucker...

He’s not very good at following instructions... sensible suggestions yes, orders tend to rankle... ;-)


I'd consider that taking any suggestions from a woman capable of turning into a wolf at any moment while she's still a woman just making suggestions to be quite sensible myself.

Indeed, given part of her respect for Colm is that he's just as capable of setting fire to anything at short notice as she is most of the time, it's not all down to strength of arms, but the strength of will not to suddenly set fire to anything he might see as a threat to Clan Cernach and Glissom's future.

Caith doesn't do much in the way of commanding obedience by sorcerous means, but herding a capricious flock of free spirited beasts early on in life gave her a little useful experience when it comes to dealing with a wolfpack of a warband. ;)
Osric Grim
player, 207 posts
Giant grim Northman
Fri 29 May 2020
at 03:27
  • msg #48

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Caith Cernach:
Giles:
Did everyone else see the magical assessment of the Warlock’s gear- the potion presents some interesting possibilities


Thanks for the scholarly skills, Giles, and it's greatly appreciated. :)

GM in IC thread:
The Amulet is an Amulet of Sovereignty over Violence.

The sword is a +1 two-handed sword which requires a strength of 16 to wield, it seems to have a vague coldness about it but what this means cannot be determined as yet.

The plate and maille is a +1 harness and weighs helf what a normal harness of the same design would.

The potion will extend by 1 day any spell placed upon a person if that spell is subject to a Spell Expiry Roll. There are 2 draughts left.


Thanks boss! :)

The amulet...
Caith already has a pretty magical necklace of her own, and left another more problematic one behind in roughly the same place Deise's boots are, IMHO that disqualifies her from any claim on the Amulet, lovely as it is.

Leaf could use a protective device that does not encumber more than Doron, who can wear heavier mundane or magical armour than she can. Spellcasters in heavy armour spell failure rates vary, and last I knew, Doron is many things to his people (Mostly uncomplimentary if you ask said people!) but spellcaster isn't one of them.

Keeping the best bet Clan Cernach have of getting back into official existence alive is a primary goal here, sure, but I'd ask Doron about who he'd rather see stay alive through it's use, if you're so keen on him having it, Colm.

The blade...
Caith's not Strength 16 either, so again, she's not interested in owning it, but would be interested in it's strangely cold metal, what enchantment that might be caused by, and tales of the folk who made it.

The armour...
Again, Caith's interested in the armour, but not in owning it.

The oily coating is an effect she would like to understand the practical use of (Beyond keeping ferrous metal rust free with minimal maintenance) and method of it's making for her own curiosity's sake.

The potion...
Oh dear, that's a spellcaster catfight waiting to happen, as we have no less than five spellcasters - Colm, Leaf, Caith, Giles and Kores - and only two doses of the stuff.

Pragmatically speaking, Kores and Colm are the two closest to being able to replicate the potion later, so I'd argue for keeping one dose for research later on if the party survives to worry about such matters, because that's an alchemical means of making a lot of gold out of any number of spellcasters, not to mention a formula well worth anyone with the ability to be learning.

OK, now who does Caith have to duel to get the other dose?
Form an orderly line... XD

More seriously, we don't know when or what spell we most want extended until it happens, right? Keep it in party loot, save it for when it's needed and we'll figure it out when it happens. Might have to sacrifice the research dose to that end as well.

The counter arguments regarding the amulet would be:

1) give it to a frontline fighter. They get hit the most. We perhaps almost lost Turren and but for a turn of luck GM said Uthen would be dead and but for the healing spells we’d all be sushi on the Warlock’s plate.  We saw how effective the amulet was in keeping the Warlock on his feet fighting long after he should have been dead.  But we’ve got better armour and often have shields...

OR

2) we give it to Deise. He mixes it at the frontline, does dangerous manoeuvres and probably doesn’t have that many HP or heavy armour or shield.

BUT Leaf or Giles could also be an option...

Thoughts?
Osric Grim
player, 208 posts
Giant grim Northman
Fri 29 May 2020
at 03:39
  • msg #49

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Or given he’s already got a flame thrower perhaps Colm can loan his ancestral letter opener out to the frontline ;-)
Toirneach Lann
player, 2169 posts
Warrior & scholar
MP:12/12 HP:12/12
Fri 29 May 2020
at 04:10
  • msg #50

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Congrats guys on the ton of loot! Whoopie! I think this is the best treasure trove i have seen in the game so far!

Yeah I think every fighter should have a magical weapon. It will help to hit and do more damage.

Plate and maille = Plate mail? That one will give AF 6, mking the person immune to d6 abr weapons. Probably useful to the knight who uses 2 handed weapons exclusively?

The amulet is awsome! Since we rarely fight more than 1-2 encouners per day. Effectively doubles the wearer's HP.
Deise
player, 465 posts
An outcast
Fri 29 May 2020
at 06:22
  • msg #51

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

In reply to Osric Grim (msg # 49):
Amulet and potion is where the division of spoils comes down to in my view.

There is an argument for giving the Miley to the warriors. That is countered by the fact that they have relatively high HP with high AF. Double the protection already, but as the front line boy do they need it.

Caith, Giles and Leofwyn are lightly armoured with relatively lower HP. For me it is roll a dice among those three for the amulet.
Deise would love the amulet and while he has low level of AF he has a reasonably high HP so more of a half way house.

In all of this, notwithstanding the points raised by Colm do I agree with any rationale for giving the spoils of war to Doron.

He lives, fine. He died, too bad. If one of Deises colleagues died, that for him would be different. We get the flame back, prove what Kilnded is, then Cearnach Clan are on the way back and maybe Colm gets a kingship?
Osric Grim
player, 209 posts
Giant grim Northman
Fri 29 May 2020
at 06:29
  • msg #52

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

I suppose it’s probably not a democracy... perhaps it’s for the Prince and his Lairdship to divide the spoils amongst his warband...
Usopi Venia
player, 1231 posts
Large knight whose
always optimistic.
Fri 29 May 2020
at 07:50
  • msg #53

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

I’d think the amulet for Leaf or Giles since Caith’s loaded up on them and Deise has suggested it’d be better with one of the others.

The two handed sword has to go to somebody with 16 strength, which probably narrows the field. (Mine’s only 14, so it’s no use to me.)

Personally I don’t know if I’d give Doron any gear. I mean, if he’s ever being attacked and we don’t have someone near by (even if it’s just Gat) to buy him a little breathing room then we’ve already messed up. If that’s the case, then the magical armor and amulet would seem more valuable on someone more likely to be put at risk. I see the logic in giving stuff to him, and it might even gain us as a group some brownie points, but I think putting the objects in to a more prominent use would be more effective in protecting the prince in the long run.


Otherwise I’ve no real need for or thoughts on any of the other items, so whoever gets what is fine by me.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:51, Fri 29 May 2020.
Leofwyn
player, 181 posts
make like a tree
Earth Elementalist
Fri 29 May 2020
at 12:58
  • msg #54

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

I know we're heading into more difficult terrain, but Leaf hasn't taken any damage at all this entire campaign. She has 12 HP (not sure if that's a lot or not much compared to others) and will take the amulet if it's thought the best idea.
She only carries a standard-issue sword with her, and would therefore naturally avoid close combat.
Osric Grim
player, 210 posts
Giant grim Northman
Fri 29 May 2020
at 13:43
  • msg #55

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Things have gone to Hel in a hand basket if Leaf is in melee. Thinking it thru the best way to avoid that is to keep the warriors standing and swinging between the bad guys and the spell casters. So I think the amulet must go to someone whom we expect to regularly get hit, ie one of the 4 warriors...

But over to the will of whomever decides such matters...
Colm Cernach
player, 1091 posts
Cernach Chieftain?
Gliss Hearth Father
Fri 29 May 2020
at 14:06
  • msg #56

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Leofwyn:
I know we're heading into more difficult terrain, but Leaf hasn't taken any damage at all this entire campaign. She has 12 HP (not sure if that's a lot or not much compared to others) and will take the amulet if it's thought the best idea.
She only carries a standard-issue sword with her, and would therefore naturally avoid close combat.

Does Leaf need to wear an Amulet to channel her Elemental energy? Colm does and this is why he can't wear another.
Leofwyn
player, 182 posts
make like a tree
Earth Elementalist
Fri 29 May 2020
at 14:15
  • msg #57

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

In reply to Colm Cernach (msg # 56):

Nah, that's what her wooden staff is for.

And we could always swap if we needed to, right?
Toirneach Lann
player, 2171 posts
Warrior & scholar
MP:12/12 HP:12/12
Fri 29 May 2020
at 14:58
  • msg #58

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

In reply to Leofwyn (msg # 54):

12 hp is the hp I have ;) and I am well a fighter ;)
Caith Cernach
player, 1410 posts
Wandering Healer & Sage.
She Who Bites Wolves Back
Sat 30 May 2020
at 01:59
  • msg #59

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Caith has all of 9 Health to her name...
She has been on rather less Health than that, and in front line combat as a healer and spellcaster more often than she would see reasonable to mention.

She has no magical armour or weapons because magic is her armour and weaponry. Socerers cop it worst with miscast spells in heavy armour, but as Caith already hoards healing potions like any good party healer, and has the wolfskin she's slowly getting the hang of using and a healing amulet of her own, she manages somehow to survive.

Mostly by knowing that what she lacks in skill, contacts, knowledge or even raw PC stats to help Clan Cernach, other people can provide far better than she can.

Leaving Caith with just the problem of keeping an eye out for trouble before it eats her, finding an allegedly long dead Prince's head for an unexpected owl, and trying to keep everyone she cares about alive long enough to help stop the end of the world happening in her lifetime.

Somewhere in that lot she might even get to find out just who the fek she has to kill to stop the stench of corruption in Glissom from becoming a fatal condition and to clear Clan Cernach's name.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:14, Sat 30 May 2020.
Sir Uthen of Sadley
player, 123 posts
A gentle Knight
Ignore the wart!
Sun 31 May 2020
at 00:20
  • msg #60

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Uthen has no magic of any sort beyond a potion that is of limited value to him (I rolled poorly for items during character creation) and would use anything he is given with gratitude :)
Toirneach Lann
player, 2175 posts
Warrior & scholar
MP:12/12 HP:12/12
Sun 31 May 2020
at 00:53
  • msg #61

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Hehe I understand how u feel! I hd a crummy potion which I gave away and didnt roll well on stats. But dont worry! Ove time, you will become better!
Sir Turren Uvedale
player, 241 posts
A handsome knight,
Immaculately presented.
Sun 31 May 2020
at 14:07
  • msg #62

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

In reply to Sir Uthen of Sadley (msg # 60):

Check that armour then Uthen?
Caith Cernach
player, 1412 posts
Wandering Healer & Sage.
She Who Bites Wolves Back
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 04:55
  • msg #63

Re: OOC Thread No. 8

Sir Uthen of Sadley:
Uthen has no magic of any sort beyond a potion that is of limited value to him (I rolled poorly for items during character creation) and would use anything he is given with gratitude :)


For what it's worth, Caith may have done better on starting items.
Right up to the last roll, then things got weirder from there.
So sometimes a lack of luck on the rolls is a blessing in disguise really.

Being wiser, even temporarily, is a quality anyone can benefit from, including any warrior, as high Intelligence is the one stat in DW that boosts the recipient's combat capabilities as well as the more esoteric talents of spellcasters.

Why else do you lot think Giles is so deadly in battle? ;)
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