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OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Posted by Pun-PunFor group 0
Tilly
player, 99 posts
Heavenly Oracle
Mon 18 Mar 2013
at 21:52
  • msg #244

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Tilly is going to keep her slots open and prepare in them as necessary, since you can always do it whenever you want.  I think that it reflects her attitude as a spontaneous caster.
Pun-Pun
GM, 235 posts
The Pungeon Master
Mon 18 Mar 2013
at 23:11
  • msg #245

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

OK, but I still need to know which spells you chose :)

To clarify: you don't get the full list yet, only a few spells, one per point of wisdom modifier.

You can prepare those spells in your cleric slots, and you can also prepare in them any spells that you can already cast (from your other class) and that a cleric with your domains would normally be able to prepare in the same slot.

Was that clearer? :)
Baron Sider
player, 94 posts
Human male 70 yrs old
Wizard 20/Cleric 1
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 00:35
  • msg #246

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

That is much clearer. Now I understand.
Pun-Pun
GM, 237 posts
The Pungeon Master
Tue 19 Mar 2013
at 04:59
  • msg #247

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Also, I forgot to mention that you get WIS Orisons that you can prepare and use, in addition to the ones you prepared back when; spells you get from your original class that are cleric orisons can of course be prepared in your cleric orison slots.

I think this more or less covers the entire 0th-level list for most characters, seeing how most of them are probably in your other list already.
Pun-Pun
GM, 238 posts
The Pungeon Master
Wed 20 Mar 2013
at 22:28
  • msg #248

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Interesting object, the Mnemonic Vestment. Seems particularly useful for a certain character in this group.
Mirelinda
player, 133 posts
Starsoul Sorceress
They call me Grandmother
Wed 20 Mar 2013
at 22:34
  • msg #249

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Oh, please, as if I couldn't cast or UMD... wait, the scroll is not consumed ? Now that's interesting.

Of course it's only once a day, and I kind of like my own take on casting spells I don't know *cough limited wish*, but it is interesting.
Pun-Pun
GM, 239 posts
The Pungeon Master
Thu 21 Mar 2013
at 05:01
  • msg #250

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

The part that surprised me was: scroll *or spellbook*. It's an even more spontaneous version of Page of Spell Knowledge: you can cast any spell that is in a borrowed spellbook, once a day, from your own slots.

BTW, one Wish gets you five of those.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:11, Thu 21 Mar 2013.
Tilly
player, 102 posts
Heavenly Oracle
Tue 26 Mar 2013
at 23:54
  • msg #251

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Pale, we are waiting on ya!
Baron Sider
player, 98 posts
Human male 70 yrs old
Wizard 20/Cleric 1
Wed 27 Mar 2013
at 02:43
  • msg #252

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

I might have to look into wishing the spell books into existence in order to speed things up. Even at 10 minutes a spell level its going to take some time to scribe them all.
Pale
player, 59 posts
Wed 27 Mar 2013
at 02:51
  • msg #253

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

You are? Damnation, sorry. What are you waiting for from me, exactly? I've already spoken about the planet...
Pun-Pun
GM, 240 posts
The Pungeon Master
Wed 27 Mar 2013
at 10:17
  • msg #254

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

8 hours of magic items creation, 13 hours of scribing spells, 1 hour of spellcasting, 2 hours of rest. That's a full day :)
Pun-Pun
GM, 241 posts
The Pungeon Master
Sun 31 Mar 2013
at 17:36
  • msg #255

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Happy Easter, everyone. And if you don't don't celebrate it, well, may it be happy anyway :)
Dekar
player, 92 posts
Heavenly Knight
Dragonrider
Sun 31 Mar 2013
at 18:16
  • msg #256

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Easter's a good holiday for what we're doing IC anyway.
Baron Sider
player, 99 posts
Human male 70 yrs old
Wizard 20/Cleric 1
Sun 31 Mar 2013
at 21:03
  • msg #257

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Happy Easter everyone.

(More like 8 hours of magic items creation, 6 hours of scribing spells, 1 hour of spellcasting, 1 hour memorizing spells, 8 hours of rest.)
Pun-Pun
GM, 242 posts
The Pungeon Master
Sun 7 Apr 2013
at 11:18
  • msg #258

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

So, False Focus, just like Eschew Materials, seems to forget about foci - real, arcane foci, not divine ones. If you have better luck than I did in a google search for an errata that specifies that you can use that in place of focus components please let me know.

Otherwise, I'll have to house rule that, much like Eschew Materials, it works as a focus components unless it clearly doesn't make sense - e.g., when the focus is used by the spell's effect to do something that the divine focus would obviously be unable to replicate.
Tilly
player, 105 posts
Heavenly Oracle
Mon 8 Apr 2013
at 23:39
  • msg #259

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Could we take that as our bonus feat for the new level?
Baron Sider
player, 100 posts
Human male 70 yrs old
Wizard 20/Cleric 1
Tue 9 Apr 2013
at 01:32
  • msg #260

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

I was thinking the same thing as I like Eschew Materials. (Now if there was a feat called Eschew Focus, (requirements: Eschew Materials, Level 21) I would take it
Pun-Pun
GM, 243 posts
The Pungeon Master
Tue 9 Apr 2013
at 05:15
  • msg #261

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

We did say that we already allow Eschew Materials to ignore costless foci, as long as they aren't required by the effect (i.e., unless the spell alters the focus in some way).

Now you can make a single object that works as your focus for everything, unless the cost of the focus, as specified by the spell, is higher than its value. You have a 100 gp limit for the material component cost, but I'm on the fence about the focus cost: if you make a Focus that is worth more than that, I might let you use its full value if the spell requires a costly focus.

And it doesn't cost you much, either, since you are going to make magic items for all slots anyway.

And yes, since you have received a bonus feat, you may choose to spend it on False Focus.

BTW: The divine focus for a druid or a ranger is a sprig of holly, or some other sacred plant. Since it's costless, it makes sense that Eschew Materials allows Pale to ignore the need for a DF when casting Druid spells. I'll also house rule that False Focus gives divine casters the same benefit as arcane ones - otherwise we have that the same spell cast with a fake divine focus gives arcane casters an advantage over true divine casters.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:34, Tue 09 Apr 2013.
Dekar
player, 93 posts
Heavenly Knight
Dragonrider
Tue 9 Apr 2013
at 05:45
  • msg #262

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Do I even need a false focus?

My natural Paladin powers are already using something to function here.
Pun-Pun
GM, 244 posts
The Pungeon Master
Tue 9 Apr 2013
at 06:42
  • msg #263

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

False Focus allows you to cast spells with a material component ignoring the material component, up to the value of the divine focus you are using, with a cap of 100 gp.

So basically Holy Water for free.
Dekar
player, 94 posts
Heavenly Knight
Dragonrider
Wed 10 Apr 2013
at 04:11
  • msg #264

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

There's an idea. Wouldn't that be a nice addition for the planet if ALL Water was holy water?

Evil outsiders and undead would all die when it rains :)
Pun-Pun
GM, 245 posts
The Pungeon Master
Wed 10 Apr 2013
at 09:29
  • msg #265

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Or, we could make all water unholy water, so nobody can drink it before casting a "purify food and water" on it >:)~
Pale
player, 61 posts
Wed 10 Apr 2013
at 11:49
  • msg #266

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

Holy rain. That's got to be terrible for the background radiation...
Tilly
player, 106 posts
Heavenly Oracle
Thu 11 Apr 2013
at 23:08
  • msg #267

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

But very tasty!
Baron Sider
player, 101 posts
Human male 70 yrs old
Wizard 20/Cleric 1
Thu 18 Apr 2013
at 01:58
  • msg #268

Re: OOC: Who is doing what now?!

The Holy Rain would be handy if the world got overran by Zombies.

I was about to launch into a diatribe about foci but after looking at the spells that require them, other than Shapechange, there is not many that would be spells that that I would use anyway. Shapechange use to be the big one in prior editions but it is not the all powerful one now.  Is crafting a 1500 gp jade circlet necessary? Not sure yet as the world is waking up.
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