Msg 53 in Prospective players playground.

"Two Miracles cast in a row will allow you to carry across 25000 gp worth of diamond powder, as will two Wishes in a row. Limited Wish can convert that to most things with a market value of 1500 gp or less (up to masterwork items; wondrous items and" the like are out)."

Msg 106

"Just to be clear: one Wizard is allowed to bring across (with a double Wish, one to delay the actual activation of the other until a certain trigger, much like a Contingency spell) 25kgp worth of diamond, meaning you could pass through, trigger the delayed Wish, and then cast another Wish (which you can then presumably prepare from memory the next day assuming you have it in your Spell Mastery list).

A single Wish allows you to create 25kgp worth of "n-of-a-kind" magical items, so "I Wish for two Blessed Books" should give you exactly what you asked for.

Just don't try "I wish for a Blessed Book and..."
This message was last edited by the player at 00:58, Sun 03 Feb 2013.

You seem to have more time to dig up things, Baron.  Can you help me make a kit?

In reply to Tilly (msg # 70):

Been working on that also. (On call today so kind of stuck at home) Here is what I first designed and then the current one.

Survival kit of the Pioneer. Kit designed to sustain 4-6 people/medium sized creatures while they start a settlement in the unknown.

Sustaining spoon     5,400
Restorative ointment 4,000
Cauldron of Brewing  3,000
Ring of sustenance   2,500
Handy Haversack      2,000
Shining Wayfinder    2,000
Versatile vest       2,000
Vest of tools        1,800
Wand Endure elements   750
Campfire bead          720
Feather Token-Tree     400
Travelers Any-tool     250
2 Ioun Torches         150
4 man tent              30   25,000


Current version
Sustaining spoon        5,400  -
Restorative ointment    4,000 1/2
Vest of tools (2)       3,600 10
Cauldron of Brewing     3,000  5
Handy Haversack         2,000  (5)
Shining Wayfinder       2,000  1
Wand endure elements(2) 1,500  -
Campfire bead (2)       1,440  -
Travelers Any-tool (4)  1,000  8
Feather Token-Tree (2)    800  -
Ioun Torch (2)            150  -
Healer kit                 50   1
4 man tent                 30  40
Survival Kit(Common) (4)   20  16
map makers kit             10   2  25,000 in haversack  83.5/120 lbs

If we have the healing part taken care of, then swapping the Restorative ointment for a pot of Marvelous pigments might be better as that will give us 2k of gear if you are up to doing a bit of painting.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:22, Sun 03 Feb 2013.

I can cast Restorations. Indeed, my starting spell selection includes 5 of them so the mages can keep casting.

I do know that at the least, I need to make myself Adamant Full Plate (with as much magic as I can put on it), an Adamant Shield, and an Adamant Longsword (Adamant needs the least amount of upkeep. Then, I guess, get some defensive magic items. My job is essentially 'tank for all the 20th level pure casters'

OK, so... You cannot wish for magic items with Limited Wish, not even in 3.x.

This means items such as campfire beads, or wands of endure elements, or feather tokens, will have to be included in the kits or packs that you are designing now, or crafted by hand by limited-wishing for the components.

The limit I previously stated for Limited Wish was 1500 gp worth of raw materials, so you could for instance "wish for the materials required to craft four wands of endure elements").

I have the healing covered... hmm, Tilly is more of a sculptor and baker than painter.  She can craft constructs, and make us guardian statues.  She can also craft clothing, and a little bit of armor and weapons.

Mirelinda has the painting skill (+25)

Oh, good then!

Mirelinda, would you like Marvelous pigments in place of the Restorative ointment?

Yes please, that way I can paint all the cheap fiddly stuff that is not worth wasting a limited wish on.

How does this look everyone?

Survival kit of the Pioneer. Kit designed to sustain 4 people/medium sized creatures while they start a settlement in the unknown. We do not assume any responsibility for using the trees in the kit as raw materiel and welcome all the hard work that the Druids do in taking care of nature.

Vest of tools (4)       7,200 20
Sustaining spoon        5,400  -
Marvelous pigments      4,000  -
Handy Haversack         2,000  (5)
Wand endure elements(2) 1,500  -
Campfire bead (2)       1,440  -
Feather Token-Tree (3)  1,200  -
Mule back cords         1,000  .25
Travelers Any-tool (4)  1,000  8
Ioun Torch (2)            150  -
Healer kit                 50   1
4 man tent                 30  40
Survival Kit(Common) (4)   20  16
map makers kit             10   2  25,000 in haversack  87.25/120 lbs

Sounds good. Although 2 wands of endure elements ? Mirelinda doesn't need it (at least not as long as the cold is the problem). And I should hope we have that problem licked before the first wand runs out.

And Mirelinda is firmly planning to limited wish herself a lot of comforts very quickly. In fact, back long ago I had this wonderful idea of putting all her wardrobe in a chest, marking it, and then casting limited wish "I wish for a duplicate of the chest which bears my arcane mark, with all its contents". But for some reason at the time the GM said no...

Oh well, Mirelinda can sew, and with arcane forge she'll have a new wardrobe in no time flat.

It would be a unique item and you can't wish for those... However, if you have any room left in your money allotment, you could make two of those, call them "Mirelinda's spring-summer-autumn-winter collection" and treat them as a kit.

Think of the extra wand as back up and can always be used in creating other items that need Endure elements. Besides, if we were all 1st level characters, it would take the three weeks or more to build a decent home. Here we would be like leaders of major countries being dumped on an island and being told to restart civilization with only one staff member each.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:07, Sun 03 Feb 2013.

I give you Mirelinda's Dowry Chest, which she put back together, twice, before leaving. 7 outfits, with extra scarves, and plenty of expensive materials for beautiful dresses:

Large Chest                             10 gp  100 lbs
Entertainer's Outfit x2                  6 gp    8 lbs
Pickpocket Outfit                        5 gp    3 lbs
Traveller's Outfit x3                    3 gp   15 lbs
Cold Weather Outfit                      8 gp    7 lbs
Silk scarves, embroidered, x5 assorted  25 gp    5 lbs
Pocketed scarf                           8 gp    0.5 lbs
Bladed scarf                            12 gp    2 lbs

Bolt of linen, 25 sq.yard              100 gp
Bolt of Silk, 10 sq.yard, dark green   100 gp
Bolt of Silk, 10 sq.yard, deep red     100 gp
Bolt of wool, 10 sq.yard, black         60 gp

Thin leather, 4 sq.yard                  2 gp
Thick leather, 4 sq yard                12 gp

2 beaver pelts                           4 gp
2 ermine pelts                           8 gp
2 fox pelts                              6 gp
2 mink pelts                             6 gp
2 seal pelts                            10 gp

TOTAL                                  500 gp


P.S. yes, I know it's full of useless items that will do us no particular good, but it's Mirelinda's Dowry Chest, so there...

Well, now we will be ready to marry you off to someone!

Baron, I like it.  Just in case, it might help if I shared my spell list?

Spell list:


0: bleed, create water, detect magic, detect poison, guidance, light, mending,
purify food and drink, read magic, resistance, spark, stabilize, virtue (cleric),
ghost sound, mage hand, enhanced diplomacy (cleric)

1: bless, blood money, color spray, cure light wounds, divine favor,
know the enemy, protection from evil, remove fear, sanctuary, shield of faith

2: admonishing ray, align weapon, consecrate, cure moderate wounds,
hypnotic pattern, lesser restoration, levitate, make whole,
masterwork transformation, minor image, status

3: create food and water, cure serious wounds, daylight, invisibility purge,
magic circle, magic vestment, stone shape

4: cure critical wounds, death ward, divine power, freedom of movement,
restoration, protection from energy, rainbow pattern, order's wrath

5: breath of life, cure light wounds (mass), fabricate, life bubble,
overland flight, rapid repair, spell resistance, telekinesis, true seeing, wall of stone

6: animate objects, blade barrier, chain lightning, cure moderate wounds (mass),
harm, heal, greater dispel magic

7: cure serious wounds (mass), destruction, dictum, greater restoration,
greater scrying, greater teleport, jolting portent, prismatic spray, reverse gravity

8: antimagic field, cure critical wounds (mass), discern location, divine vessel,
euphoric tranquility, greater spell immunity, stormbolts, sunburst

9: mass heal, meteor swarm, miracle, true resurrection, time stop

(I can create water and food for us easily.  Create Food makes enough food and water for 60 people for 24 hours.  It is good to have backup, though, since I could get killed!)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:07, Sun 03 Feb 2013.

Here is the spell list that I will be taking. It should help with getting something built on the first day. (5 Walls of stone)

Divine Magic
Level 0 Resistance, Stabilize, Create Water

Arcane
Level 0 Prestidigitation, Mage hand, Mending, Light.

Level 1 Mage Armor x2, Charm Person. Enlarge Person, Feather Fall,
 Endure elements x2
Level 2 Extended endure elements, Fox's cunning, Bull strength, Cats grace, Owl's wisdom, Bears endurance, Eagles grace.

Level 3 Fly, Extended share memory x6

Level 4 Stone Shape x5

Level 5 Fabricate x3, Wall of stone x5

Level 6 Move Earth x3, disintegrate x2

Level 7 Rampart x3, Elemental body IV x2, (split slot)

Level 8 Polymorph any object x4, Sunburst

Level 9 Mass Icy Prison, Mage's Disjunction x2, Meteor Swarm, Mass Hold Monster.

Here's mine for today-

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 0¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Create Water
Know Direction
Light
Read Magic

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 1¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Magic Stone
Dream Feast
Ant Haulx2
Air Bubble
Endure Elements
Blood Moneyx2

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 2¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Soften Earth and Stone
Endure Elements, Communal x2
Lesser Restoration x2
Web Shelter
Wood Shape

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 3¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Stone Shape x5
Daylight
Sky Swim
Water Breathing

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 4¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Spike Stones
Air Walk
Control Water
Dispel Magic
Cure Serious Wounds
Freedom of Movement
Life Bubble

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 5¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Wall of Stonex5
Commune with Nature

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 6¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Stoneskin
Greater Dispel Magic
Ironwood
Move Earthx4

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 7¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Elemental Body IV
Control Weather
Wind Walkx2
True Seeing
Greater Scrying
Rampart

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 8¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Earthquake
Finger of Death
Word of Recall x2
Wall of Lava
Whirlwind

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Spell Lvl 9¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Elemental Swarm
Regenerate
Foresight
Shapechange
World Wave
Tsunami

Since we have food taken care of between the spells and pigments, I was thinking that we can swap out the Sustaining spoon for another pot of the pigments and some other goodies, (1,400 gp remaining) Suggestions? Remember, it has to fit in the remaining space in the haversack.

Vest of tools (4)       7,200 20
Marvelous pigments      4,000  -
Handy Haversack         2,000  (5)
Wand endure elements(2) 1,500  -
Campfire bead (2)       1,440  -
Feather Token-Tree (3)  1,200  -
Mule back cords         1,000  .25
Travelers Any-tool (4)  1,000  8
Ioun Torch (2)            150  -
Healer kit                 50   1
4 man tent                 30  40
Survival Kit(Common) (4)   20  16
map makers kit             10   2          in haversack  87.25/120 lbs

How about a lot of spices, so the food tastes good?   :)

Oh and some seeds!  Tilly wants to make a garden at some point, assuming more world generates.

Well, I think that can be covered by the pigments but if you find a magic item or kit that has what we need, let me know.

My spells...

LV1:Blood Money (x5) Keep Watch (x2)

LV2:Bull's Strength (x3) Lesser Resto (x3) Endure Elements (Communal)

LV3:Heal Mount (x3), Dispel Magic (x2), Resist Energy (Communal)

LV4:Restoration (x5!)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:05, Fri 08 Feb 2013.

A couple of things about this selection of spells that your character would be aware of...

- Endure Elements, Communal, is actually pretty terrible: the duration is divided among the targets, so it takes the same number of castings as a standard Endure Elements to cover the same number of people for the same amount of time, except from a higher level slot.

- Keep Watch works on multiple people per casting, so you only really need one, or two in case something happens and you need to recast it.

- Bless Water is (M) (silver worth 25 gp) so you will need Blood Money (1 STR per casting) to fuel it.
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:05, Mon 04 Feb 2013.

Oops. Do you have better suggestions? I was just trying to help as best I could.