Do we need heavy ordinance tools or are we good?  NVGs....party buy?

I would say personal buy

Alright...updated gear a bit.  I have 7,147 to kick into the group pot.

I'm doing personal gear tonight.  How much is it per magazine?  COuldn't find it in the V1 rules.  $1 per x mag capacity?

Yeppers $1 per shot of capacity

BTW, speaking of fuel, are we getting a still?  In which case it would make sense to have a wheeled vehicle to pull it along.  As I've stated before a vehicle for the NCOIC to take care of beans and bullets is quite common.  Spare parts for the M1 and M2?

In reply to Briareos (msg # 66):

B-Rock has a good point. No one has asked what fuels the team vehicles are set up to run. According to the rules, flawed as the often are, players get to choose whether the group vehicles are set up to run ethanol or methanol. Even though Alpha 1-40's Company Commander is the group's CO, I'm pretty sure that decision would have been made at Battalion or Division level.

Hell I'm flexible. You guys wanna run on fairy dust, go right ahead. GDW's error when it comes to this area is stating that helicopter engines can't be run on alcohol fuels, but the M1 series can. Uh, hello? What do they think powers the tank engines? So, in RBS tank and helos can both run on alcohol fuels, although both those vehicles are running in small numbers if at all these days.

A lot of cars here run on LPG, as it is so much cheaper than fossil fuels. Of course, the engines were made to run on petrol, so all the engines shudder and shake like they are sick. Even the newer cars can run on LPG to their detriment.

A lot of Hummers in the American Army are High Backs. Not to be confused with the turtle backs, the high backs are unarmored cargo vehicles with the back or 'bed' part is topped with metal tubing covered with green canvas. Link:

http://www.google.pl/search?q=...biw=1024&bih=586

There is a picture second from the left on the top row but it's not a good one. To see it with the canvas off, scroll down to Page three. Second row, third from the left. Yes, I know it's a model, but it is what the high back looks like with the canvas off and the metal tubing still on.

As a final note, as someone with first hand experience with the UAZ, I can honestly say that it really isn't more than a four place station wagon painted a funky green with a really underpowered engine. Even with the two rear seats removed, it has a 'bed' about half the length of an American pick-up truck.

Just stating the facts as I see them. I can't help it if I enjoy it so much. :)

Jozef

In reply to Niewiele Dupek (msg # 67):

I like the idea of running helo's on alchohol too.  It's a fantasy game so, why not?

I was waiting to find out what we were running the vehicles on to see what kind of still or gas we would need to run them (vehicles).

I'm going to have about $20,000 in funds to throw into our pool so, we have a couple of different options if we're going to decide which 'alky' fuel we're going to use and carry. We may also want to use a fuel trialer as well!

I think the Hummer we get should be armed with a .50 cal and we should have a cargo vehicle or trailer.

I understand we have some new people who recently joined?  Welcome to the game!  Please let me know if there is anything you may need help with.  As soon as you are done with your gear, please let us know if you would like to contribute to group funds to buy stuff for the entire group.

Also, one FYI, I am not, nor have I served in the military.  I will try to do my best so If I'm not 100% spot on with something, please forgive me ahead of time.

In reply to Captain Allen Gamble (msg # 68):

RBS:

Just bought half a ton of coal and had my 'friend' Łukasz(ex-girlfriend's friend's boyfriend...what is that, like 'friend in law'? :p) drive me there and back. The roads were slippery because of the melted ice and snow in places and the 500kg in the little trailer made it quite an interesting trip.

I dare you guys to buy a bunch of kupa and put it in a trailer. I really do. Jezu Maria...as if fighting two armored divisions with just two vehicles isn't suicidal enough, you want to string along something from The Beverly Hillbillies too! Oh man this is going to be fun.

I know we haven't had the game brief, but I was thinking maybe the extra stuff could be somewhere in the city and is 'happened upon' by the team. Maybe it's co-located with the Div HQ and you have to fight your way in to get it. Who knows?

You could always stop and disconnect the trailer. Leave a couple soldiers to guard it. Like a jet about to dogfight which dumps fuel to be as light as possible, the trick to any armor battle is this: don't be a station wagon.

Although, if you want to do the trailer debacle, er...solution, I say go for it. I can't wait to jack-knife that pieprzony thing!

Jozef

The trailer would be hitched to our support vehicle, so that the two main combat vehicles would be free to maneuver in combat.  So a cargo humvee, or even command humvee would work fine to carry extra gear, haul the still, and run as a light scout vehicle.  If we got the bucks, maybe we can have a dirt motorcycle as a truly scout vehicle, can be used by any of the Cavalry Scout folks.

ND, could we get an update to the vehicle/group roster?  Thanks.

Okay, sorry for being absent over the weekend but I had exams to prepare for and that lead to being fairly busy.

For personal gear, I didn't go further then personal weapons and gear, clothing, a small radio, and a couple of MREs.  Figured we could buy more food once a supply vehicle was nailed down/hang a couple boxes off the tank.  Or we could play the ugly Americans and 'forage' for food as we go along....

I agree with just getting a Humvee and then dismount or so (NPC/PC) behind to guard it when we go into battle.  It doesn't seem like such a good idea to scout with the thing carrying all our supplies and fuel production unit though.  We may have to make do with the Bradley carrying the dismounts ahead and letting them foot patrol it.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:56, Mon 10 Dec 2012.

In reply to Sgt Beth Nunnenkamp (msg # 71):

I didn't go crazy with personal gear like I usually do.  I kept it simple and have about $20K for the pool.

Can everyone please list or PM me what you are going to contribute to party funds?

I will be contributing $13,310.50 to the unit pool.

$7,147.00

I bought ton of tools for fixing our gear and vehicles.  About every type of tool I could find.

$18,000 will be my contribution.  I saw that someone went out of the way and purchased a lot of tools.  I did buy a case of frags and a case of AT mines with my starting gear.  I also purchased [13] mags for my CAR-15, a scope, and a case of ammo for it as well as a case of ammo & [6] mags for my Beretta M-9.

I have a tentative total of $38,457.50

I've only got $8,927.00 to contribute.  I didn't have much to begin with or so it seems compared to others.  I didn't buy large amounts of reserve ammo or food, as I figured it would be a part of the group pot.

I bought bolt cutters, an AN/PRC-126, battery charger, magazines for my grease gun and 1911, plus clothing, and loose ammunition.

Hi folks, I'm the latest victim to sign up!  I'm looking forward to the game and I'll just go ahead and apologize to everyone playing a female character now.

Why's that?

I figured I'd try the GM's motivation table suggestion and I drew the 'Lustful' card for one of Gavin's motivations.  The guy is a DOG.

I feel that now is the time to remind all the ladies, 'Don't hate the player, hate the game.' :)

On the plus side, he may come with a pimp ride.  Still working with the Ref on that but I'll let you know what happens.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 04:48, Thu 13 Dec 2012.

Howdy, 'Lee-Tee' Barr!

BTW, were we supposed to keep some of our remaining funds as liquid funds (i.e., cash, like gold or something)?

Wow we've got a lot of brass riding around with us.  Welcome lootenant.

Actually I'm going to take back some of my cash for a giant speaker, wiring, and a tape deck.

EDIT: I went ahead and drew for motivation; Ace of Clubs plus the five of clubs. Hm...
This message was last edited by the player at 06:25, Thu 13 Dec 2012.

In reply to Sgt. Kitty Summers (msg # 81):

"Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full."

Keep in mind that by this time, all of the nation-states, what we think of as countries, have fallen by the wayside. No more banks, no more 'faith' in paper currency. Gold? Maybe in Gavin's grill. The idea of GDW assuming that everyone, down to the local farmer, would go to the local bank, which only has paper currency, and withdraw their life savings in gold the day before the first nuclear weapons were dropped, well,...

Kinda seemed far fetched to me. I know it's a game, but the reality of any societal collapse(Argentina, Weimar Republic, etc) has always been the problem that there was no agreed upon barter system to replace the paper currency. Once people realized the proverbial jig was up, there was chaos. T2K is o different.

TRADE, Proszę Państwo, that is the name of the game. So as an  .50 cal equals four 7.6mmN equals 8 5.556mmN equals 16 9mmP, etc. etc.  These soldiers have been 'in country' for only a couple months, but before that the Division had settled in Germany since late 1997. So, depending on your specific character's history, he/she/it has been living 'like a European' possibly up to three years.

What does that mean in everyday terms? Weening ones self off electricity, excessive water use, and of course, living very hand to mouth. You're hungry, you shop for the day. The extreme lack of space means that the characters are very 'aware' of the locals. They are good, bad, and indifferent, depending on the motivations of locals and the actions of the PCs.

So, this whole 'where do we get food?' problem GDW assumes the soldiers have seems unrealistic to me. Farmers have chickens, pigs, cows, and other things that go bump in the night. This is less their reality in Germany, as the Headquarters units would probably handle all the procurements. However, they would at least know how to try to use the locals to live off the land.

My understanding of the equipment monetary value was to say that the characters have accumulated equipment equivalent to the dollar amount given.  So, it's not supposed to be actual cash.  I was thinking that possibly some form of gold may be retained, as despite the end of the world as we know it, some still value precious metals and rare stones/gems.  Certainly GDW encouraged the FOR, SCR, FRM, and FSH skills.  Every game may be played differently where some still value those precious metals and gems -- there's always hope that the world will climb out of WWIII and go back to "normal", however delusional that might be.

So, I think whatever "money" is left in the pot should be liquidated into some sort of hard asset like ammo, equipment, and especially medicine.

No akurat zgadzam się! Not to go all 'Glenn Beck' on you, but you can't eat gold. If you're my neighbor, you can eat pigeons, but that's a depression for you. Actually he's one of these 'elderly school' hardline types. I think he and his brother(one lives on one side of me, the other one the other) were eating pigeons before the economic bonka of 2008. ;)

Don't get me wrong I'm not taking the piss. 'Unfortunately', poorly educated people all over the world will be the only ones to survive a Mad Max scenario, with the exception being military units, police, etc. Funny, innit? The world doesn't give a shit now about the same people that will be the only people the world does give a shit about in any 'hypothetical' doomsday scenario.



It's not just 'hope and change' that's got people confused over there. Millions of Poles have been sold this BS that, "Hey, you're part of the EU now, wouldn't it be great to get a lot of DEBT?!?!" Man, I would not want to be a politician when 39 million people realize they've been had. Now, increase that to 7 billion people, and that's what the bankers will have to face, if we can pull them out of their little bunkers before we all get irradiated.

What a great time to be alive. :)

Jozef