Meta-game & Rules Discussion.   Posted by The Empire.Group: 0
Vander
 player, 300 posts
Tue 18 Jul 2017
at 15:57
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion

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Vander
 player, 301 posts
 AC-19, PD-20, MD-15
 HP-54/54, Recovery-8/7
Wed 19 Jul 2017
at 18:11
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Sorry, I was not able to post yesterday. Here is a summary.

quote:
Shadow Walk

You gain the shadow walk at-will power:

As a move action before you have used your standard action this turn, if you are not engaged, you can make the following ‘attack’ against all nearby enemies, targeting the enemy among them with the highest Mental Defense.

Attack: Charisma + Level vs. MD

Hit: Remove yourself from play. At the start of your next turn, return anywhere nearby that you could have moved to normally during your turn, and deal double damage with your first rogue attack that turn.

Miss: No effect. You can’t attempt to shadow walk again until your next turn, but you still have your standard action this turn.

Adventurer Feat On a miss, you can still use your move action normally (but still can’t shadow walk this turn).

Champion Feat Twice per day, you can reroll the rogue attack that follows your successful use of shadow walk.

Epic Feat Twice per day, you can reappear from your shadow walk in a nearby location you wouldn’t have been able to reach unimpeded physically, for instance, on the other side of a portcullis or door, or high up a wall.


Now, the only nearby foe was Shakru, not the owner or his magic sword. I have the adventurer's feat-so I had missed Shakru's MD I would still have my normal action. Furthermore, as they power 'removes me from play'-I don't think the sword would be able to attack me-however, I don't think I would be able to block the owner's movements this turn because I am 'not on the game board'.
Sigmund
 player, 491 posts
 AC22 PD 17 MD 14
 HP: 70/70 Rec:7/9
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 09:11
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Right, Sigmund's action was a miss as well, so it probably doesn't alter the Owner's action. One query, since Gilad and Sigmund both engaged him to make melee attacks, would they get Opportunity Attacks against the Owner when he moves into the Emporium?
The Empire
 GM, 772 posts
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 09:18
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
OK, I think my mistake was not using the Owner's MD rather than Shakru's, since the Owner, though fleeing, is technically nearby.

Vander, please assume you Shadow Walk failed and post your standard action please.

Also, Sigmund and Gilad, you might get an AoO - don't have my rulebook hear (am on my hols in sunny Tessin), but if he makes a disengage roll he can avoid the AoO, right??
Gilad Rott
 player, 338 posts
 The Bard
 HP: 54/54 Rec: 9/9
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 09:29
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
The Empire:
Also, Sigmund and Gilad, you might get an AoO - don't have my rulebook hear (am on my hols in sunny Tessin), but if he makes a disengage roll he can avoid the AoO, right??


Yep. Normal save, with a -1 penalty since he's engaged with two of us.
The Empire
 GM, 773 posts
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 09:48
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
You both get AoOs :)
Vander
 player, 302 posts
 AC-19, PD-20, MD-15
 HP-54/54, Recovery-8/7
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 12:36
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
In reply to The Empire (msg # 447):

In that case, can I use my tumbling strike to disengage form Shakru, move, and then re engage with the owner? As I would have moved past Shakru, I would still have a move action to block the owner's movement after my tumbling strike.
The Empire
 GM, 774 posts
Fri 21 Jul 2017
at 09:02
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
You are not engaged with Shakru yet Vander. I don't think you cab actually engage the Owner with this action (you'd be using your move action to engage Shakru, then your standard action to make the tumbling strike and disengage), but you could use it to get past Shakru into the Emporium without triggering an opportunity attack.
Vander
 player, 303 posts
 AC-19, PD-20, MD-15
 HP-54/54, Recovery-8/7
Thu 27 Jul 2017
at 15:15
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
In reply to The Empire (msg # 451):

I dont really want to hit Shakru. Can I just use my tumble special ability to get past him and then do tumbling strike on the owner?
The Empire
 GM, 776 posts
Fri 28 Jul 2017
at 06:58
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Yes, but just this once :)
Vander
 player, 304 posts
 AC-19, PD-20, MD-15
 HP-54/54, Recovery-8/7
Fri 28 Jul 2017
at 16:36
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
In reply to The Empire (msg # 453):

Thank you.

:)

Also, my HP is max 54, not 45 I think. I am 4th level now. So after the roll with it I should be down to 44 hp, not 20.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:38, Fri 28 July 2017.

The Empire
 GM, 778 posts
Mon 31 Jul 2017
at 10:33
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Gilad, since it's easy to be misunderstood online I want to tell you something: that's a pretty big assumption you have made IC...

When the Owner was last "killed" by his floating sword, at the last second he disappeared and one of the unfortunates from the workhouse appeared in is place. He and the Owner swapped places. What happened just now looked identical to that...

This message was last edited by the GM at 10:33, Mon 31 July 2017.

Gilad Rott
 player, 341 posts
 The Bard
 HP: 54/54 Rec: 9/9
Tue 1 Aug 2017
at 05:56
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Whoops, seems I jumped the gun there! Wishful thinking.

Edited my last post.
The Empire
 GM, 783 posts
Mon 14 Aug 2017
at 10:13
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Just to be clear there is a whole bunch of the Emporium you haven't seen, starting with the back room behind the counter (that the Owner was heading for). You are in the, for want of a better word, showroom...
The Empire
 GM, 795 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 18:10
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Always expect the unexpected! I thought you were going to press a few crystals randomly :)

So Gilad, please roll 4d20 (don't forget include all rolls), then consult the tables. Higher is better. This may be a good time to remind everyone that you get one free re-roll per combat.

Exterior shield
1     Shield feedback loop. All of the townsfolk are crisped by a surge of radiant energy.
2     Shield upgrade. Shield HPs are doubled.
3-7   Nothing happens.
8-10  Shield drops for one round.
11-13 Shield drops for two rounds.
14-17 Shield drops for three rounds.
18-19 Shield disabled.
20    Shield projected forwards 15ft or so, encompassing all the villagers.

Interior shields
1     Shield feedback loop. Vander turned to dust, attacked with +8 versus PD 20 damage.
2     Shield upgrade. Shield HPs are doubled.
3-12  Nothing happens.
13-14 Shield drops for one round.
15-16 Shield drops for two rounds.
17-18 Shield drops for three rounds.
19-20 Shield disabled.

Secret Bit

Random effect to Gilad from stabbing a magical nexus
1     Magical overload. Every item in the Emporium's showroom explodes. All townsfolk are killed, all PCs in the room attacked +15 VS PD 20 damage.
2     Hole in reality. Teleported outside.
3     Localised Surge. The floating sword goes uncontrollably berserk.
4-12  Frazzled! Take (16-your roll)/2 d6 damage from the feedback.
13-14 Zapped. Stunned for one round.
15-17 Nothing happens.
18    Refreshed. Take a free healing surge.
19    Infused with magic. All magical effects doubled until the end of the adventure.
20    Supercharger. Gilad's sword gains a permanent power-up (to be determined).
Gilad Rott
 player, 351 posts
 The Bard
 HP: 54/54 Rec: 9/9
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 21:15
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Edited my last post with the rolls... which were actually pretty good!


Gilad Rott rolled 15,19,17,20 using d20,d20,d20,d20 with rolls of 15,19,17,20.  Emporium Crystal Destruction!
The Empire
 GM, 804 posts
Tue 31 Oct 2017
at 18:10
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Folks, you could just about hear Vander yelling from the cellar when the Emporium was empty, but now the showroom is full of dozens of screaming people! You cannot hear much of anything not yelled a few feet away.

Vander and Zanne managed to communicate via the power of love this time :)

Game update on Thursday folks.
The Empire
 GM, 814 posts
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 09:14
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
OK everyone level up, including Shakru. No need to level up Sigmund.
The Empire
 GM, 815 posts
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 13:11
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Will discuss magic with you in PMs.

Sadly none of you experienced the infinite!
Gilad Rott
 player, 360 posts
 The Bard
 HP: 72/72 Rec: 9/9
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 09:45
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Gilad's all leveled up!
Shakru
 player, 286 posts
 Half-orc barbarian
 Hits 45 / 38 rec: 5/4
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 10:42
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Hi guys

Will level up later today when the girls go out shopping
Vander
 player, 321 posts
 AC-20, PD-21, MD-16
 HP-72/72, Recovery-8/8
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 16:23
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
I too am leveled up!

:)
Zanne
 player, 261 posts
 Human Sorcerer
 R 9/9 HP 64/64
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 19:24
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Same here!
The Empire
 GM, 816 posts
Fri 29 Dec 2017
at 08:59
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
Excellent! Can I ask you all a favour - can you plese dig out you Relationship rolls from the last adventure (assuming you posted them)? Would appreciate it. Will get the magic item PMs off in the next few days.

If you could also make the rolls for this one too would be great!
Vander
 player, 322 posts
 AC-20, PD-21, MD-16
 HP-72/72, Recovery-8/8
Fri 29 Dec 2017
at 15:12
Re: Meta-game & Rules Discussion
In reply to The Empire (msg # 467):

10:11, Today: Vander rolled 9 using 2d6 with rolls of 5,4.  high druid (positive).

10:11, Today: Vander rolled 2 using 1d6 with rolls of 2.  Prince of Shadows (conflicted).

This message was last edited by the player at 19:54, Fri 29 Dec 2017.