Ok, lets start of fresh. Post any ooc stuff here, but please no spoilers! Some of the other players may not have advanced into the campaign as much as you!

We have a new player! Welcome Sin Ya!

Woren, would you be so kind to show Sin Ya the ropes, maybe give her heads up? A general impression of the game?

Just please, no spoilers.

Oh a new player my my welcome after being the only for such a long time it's hard to believe.  Welcome Sin Ya your in for a treat I can assure you of that after all I'm very far into the game so I should know ;).  In any case don't worry about any spoilers from me that's not the kind of person that I am.  However I will say this much that if you give this game your all and have fun then you'll do just fine, but if you need anything feel free to ask I'll try to help in any way I can :).

Thank you and don't worry I will catch up. Warning I am a bit of a monster.

There will be no "catching up" Sin Ya. This is a solo game. I'm going to run you through the same campaign as Woren, but you two will not "meet". Its the same game but he is the protagonist in his campaign and are the protagonist in yours.

Unless you mean you'll post like crazy in which case yes it's possible to catch up, but highly unlikely because in Woren's game we're 2000 posts into the game already.

It's true we have been at this for some time as I like this game I don't give up so easy and make sure to put my all in to it.  And yes we are both the hero of our own story, but that doesn't mean I can't help you.  If you have any questions I can try and answer them for you.  Like for an example if you are not all that familiar with rpol or how to post I can help with that or any other general questions you may have.  Also I'm guessing you were speaking metaphorically not literally when you said you were a monster, lol.  I myself am a bit of a badass though lol XD in any case welcome.

And unfortunately Sin Ya had to leave due to being too busy with hosting his own game. But a new player has taken his place. Welcome Astaire Inkaku!

Nice to meet you distant cousin or whatever if you need anything my offer extends to you as well.

Woren, it is great to meet you! I am really pumped to start this asap and look forward to picking your brain about general facts (no spoilers). I read the above posts by you and assume that you would extend the same courtesy to me ;)

But of course if you need to know anything about rpol, how to post or about how to play the game let me know and I can help.  After all I have been here for some time so my knowledge is at your disposal.


This message was last edited by the player at 22:30, Sun 25 Oct 2015.

It is certainly appreciated =D

Sorry for the lack of activity guys, I was on vacation plus my net provider crashed for a day. Now that I'm back to work the posts will resume at the usual pace. Sorry again.

In reply to GM (msg # 12):

Hello GM its me, im reading the handbook i found. So now what do we do?

Yo hey new comer nice to meet you.  It seems like you are going to be part of my game for a little while at least until you get the hang of things.  After that you might go on your own journey and make your own story.  So as far as I know you can take over one of the npc's in my game.  I have a few ideas already for you and don't worry the ones I'm giving you will be awesome.  So the suggestions I have for you are the following:  Kineson he essentially a really awesome ranger who also has a giant wolf as his best friend.  Fumio a samurai and diplomate by nature with a VERY high diplomacy skill his focus is on challenging others and using his own abilities to help the others in my group.  Zed he's a bit more difficult he's mage and a strong one at that however he's very stuck up might not be the best fit for you.  Ylwa a barbarian women who loves freedom and kicking the crap out of people. And that should be everyone else in my group either would not be a good fit for you or are severing a different service(if you will) that I much rather leave to the gm sorry.  I can give you full details on any of these people if you want including stats and anything else you might need.  Also once you get a feel for things and make a choice I'll let you see my stats as well as we will be fighting together.  However don't feel obligated to join my game you can always request your own game.  Like I said you will be a part of my game because of how green you so in the end this is trying to help you gain a foothold on this game.  No matter your choice just know that I will try and help you in any way I can so feel free to ask me anything and I'll do my best to answer :).

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 14):

Kineson sounds good! I think his character is more of action than talking which would suit me nicely. hopefully I won't be the one to drag the story down. So what do I do now? Or where do I start?

Kineson = the male version of this (both cases)


Things you need to know about him:
-He's a forest guardian and I mean that literally (Hunter plus Warder multiclass character).
-He is indeed a "serious" an "stoic" character, I had put a few of those in the game to balance out all the goofballs. He prefers the outdoors and the company of his wolf Hashiro over being stuffed inside castles and cities and the endless chatter of people (he is a ranger after all). He is a boy of few words and serious action.
-He was born in Ryuku village (see the bottom right corner of the game map). That place is "goofball central", however every generation or so the forest spirits (kami) choose a child to be the guardian of the mountain. Kineson was just a little boy when he wandered off into the woods and got fascinated by nature. He became a ranger and aside from the occasional visit to settlements (to sell pelts and buy some necessities) he had no contact with civilizations.
-He was 14 years old when he first met Woren. The forest had seen an unusual increased amount of monster activity and he was chasing a band of orcs. With Woren, Jirou, Ellie, Riana and Volgan's help he defeated the orcs. He was injured but had to resume the chase (some of the orcs fled, plus there was still work to be done back in the forest). Despite some protests, Woren used his party's remaining healing power on Kineson and Hashiro instead on his own. (good call on TDs part since this was one of the requirements to recruit Kineson later)

-Much later, Kineson met with Woren again. It was revealed that the increased monster activity was due to the monsters fleeing the massive Imperial army heading this way. With some convincing, Woren made Kineson see that standing alone against the tide would solve nothing. That his best chance on stopping this threat was to join up with him until this blew over.

-Kineson has been with him ever since. He's 15 years old now, the youngest "combat capable" person in the group (there are younger characters, but they are strictly support types). He's also a major badass. In fact I'm not entirely sure who would win in a duel, Woren or Kineson and Hashiro? Maybe one of these days you guys can duke it out.

Ha ha ha it would be interesting to see the three fight, Woren has become a badass as well and has grown even stronger.  Right now it's the gm's turn to post and we are about to have ourselves a party.  I've already given the gm some ideas on how the party should play out.  Let's just say it should be fun.  You can if you want to rp as Kineson or just wait a bit until the party trust me you'll get a chance if you wait.  A few options if you want I can give you a few suggestions.  For example as the gm said Kineson is starting to get to that age where he could start to feel stirrings for girls and he may even have someone in mind, but that would mostly be up to the gm.  However as such he could talk to Woren in private as Woren already has a girlfriend in game (Ellie in case you are wondering) as such he could ask for Woren's help especially because they are so close in age.  Woren is 16 right now fyi.  I can also like I said send you a pm with all the stats you need.  However I think it might be best to first ask how familiar you are with the system as I don't want to overwhelm you with to much.  So just let me know and we can go from their also don't worry to much about dragging me down.  If you ever feel like you are or if you feel as though your ready you can always ask to have your own game.  Oh yeah one big suggestion I can give you is to not to read through every post I made.  Their are a few reasons for this.  The first should be obvious as their are a lot of posts after all me and the gm have been at this for almost a year.  The second is in case you ever do want your game you won't know too much about the game and can make your own choices as that's half the fun :).  In any case that should be it just let me know when you want your stats and I'll give it to you :).

No he's not. Woren started out as 17 (probably) and is nearing 18 (probably). I say probably because no one knows exactly how old he is or when he was born because he was already a small child when Inkaku brought him to Kyoto to raise him.

But he's definitely not 16.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:26, Sun 10 Jan 2016.

Whoops my bad sorry about that.  Still I don't think my idea was a bad one.  Another one has already been suggested by the gm.  Kineson challenges Woren to a fight to test both of their power.  That could also be interesting :).
This message was last edited by the player at 13:33, Sun 10 Jan 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 19):

Well to be honest,Im really not that familiar with the game. I was a Hexian roleplayer and have tried some rping, playing quidditch and all. I read the manuals so i knew the basics but playing beats reading . So how do use my char?

The best way for you to learn is to fight me oddly enough.  Challenge me to a duel in game not right at this moment you would be better off waiting till the next day in game.  It's a party in game so no need to ruin it lol ;).  Kineson works best while riding Hashiro as such when you decide to fight me I'll take on both of you.  Keep in mind Woren respects Kineson heavily so you can set the pace for the battle.  For example you have magic spells you can use I also have magic.  If you use magic I might use magic and stuff like that.  When we start we roll for initiative to see who goes first it's listed in your sheet.  I'll give you an example of a quick combat.
00:12, Today: Woren Inkaku rolled 19 using 1d20+7. initiative .
It looks like this

Next we start to fight fyi the fight would be non lethal meaning all attack rolls are reduced by 4 for example if you have a +16 to attack while fighting non lethal you have a +12.  You have to beat the ac of the person you are fighting.  For example if I had an ac of 23 for example (btw I don't) you would need a 23 or higher.  You then roll damage so let's say you do 1 d8 +5 you then roll that to see how much damage.  We keep going until one our hp's hit zero and then we are knocked out.  So let me give you an example roll  for this.
00:16, Today: Woren Inkaku rolled 23 using 2d8+13. damage.
00:16, Today: Woren Inkaku rolled 39 using 1d20+25. confirm cirt .
00:15, Today: Woren Inkaku rolled 40 using 1d20+21. Attack.
Actually this is perfect as well you have a crit range normal 19-20 but it can be higher.  So if you roll a 19 or 20 like I did you then roll again to confirm crit and if you beat the ac again you confirm the crit and do either double triple or maybe more damage.  SO I normally do 1 d8 but because I got a crib I did 2d8.  You then take the damage away from your hp.  So if you have 100 hp you would then have 77 hp.  We keep going back and forth until someone wins.  I can explain more to you later on this is a basic example to try and help you.  I'll tell you more later I'm tired now sorry :(.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:21, Mon 11 Jan 2016.

The best source as I'm sure the gm has already told you is here.http://www.d20pfsrd.com it has a lot of info on this game system and can answer many question, but if you ever don't understand something feel free to akk :).

Ooo I like this pic it's perfect for when Woren draws out his sword what do you guys think.

Quit fitting since he also uses a shield.

Agreed ha ha to be honest I've been trying to find a good pic that might depict what Woren looks like.  To be honest I found a decent one, but to be honest I think this would be better used in like a requirement poster to show how people might view him.

Nice pic! You even got the part about the shining crest symbol on your hand being engraved on your shield part right.

Hey thanks I wasn't to sure about it to be honest, but Im happy you like it :).

Before I fight you can I see Kin's sheets?

I don't have his sheets I think the gm has them I'm sure he'll give them to you soon.  But since I'm here might as well give you my breakdown.

Woren
Hp: 112/112 (10 temp hp)
AC:29
Touch ac:15
Flatfooted: 26
combat maneuver defense:28 +2 to disarm and sunder attempts
Bab:10
damage reduction 3 from armor
stamina pool: 12/12
spells 1 first level wizard spell, 1 second level wizard spell 1 third level wizard spell
Path of war techniques: 4/4


Fyi I have a few tricks up me sleeve so I'm not going to show you everything hope your ready ;).  Oh and you keep misspelling my name I only have one r not two because I like to be unique lol.

Do I? Sorry I haven't noticed it. Don't worry I don't intend to lose to.

Kineson, your sheet was provided to you when you were added to the game. Do you see on your screen in the top left corner where it says "Character Details"? THat's where your sheet is located.

EDIT: BTW the current post is your cue to step in. I think Woren could use the company.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:07, Wed 13 Jan 2016.

You did do that roll wrong your initiative was right but you rolled for damage without the attack.  When you look at your weapons it should have everything you need to attack.  It should look like this.
Weapon         Atk   Damage   Type   Crit    Range   Special
+2 herosword | +25 | 1d8+13 |  S   |19~20x2|       | 1-hand
+2 herosword | +22 | 1d8+19 |  S   |19~20x2|       | 1-hand+power attack
+2 herosword | +25 | 1d8+13 |  S   |17~20x2|       | 1-hand VS criminals

This is my stuff though yours is different obviously also now might not be the best time to attack him for two reasons.  The first being something is going down in the great hall the second is he's emotionally unstable right now.  He has to find a way to break things off with his first love and he's in a lot of pain.

Oh, well next time, il get it. And speaking of woren, if thats what you think then let me use a bit of force of nature to make amends!

Dude, I'm with Woren on this one. Kicking a man while he's down AND while the castle's in a panic?! That was a dick move.

BTW, how would you like it if I hosted your very own game? Just you and me 1-on-1. I ask because you're not up to pace with the current game and you may feel left out.

Well, it seems Kineson will be getting his own game. Feel free to posts details of your games to each other since it will have nothing to do with each other.

I can also put you in the same group so you can read each other's stories/games if you'd like.

Sounds good will he be taking over Kineson permanently?

No, Kineson will return to your game as an NPC and s.desciple will create his own character.

Got it thanks.

I hoped i didn't mess up your game big time. I'm really thanking you for your offer! Maybe next time when I get the hang of the basics we can play together in some other games! n_n

Nah it's cool I've gotten really good at flipping situations to better the story or at least keep it going.  If you ever need my help in your game feel free to ask.

Lol sorry GM, I just got a bit excited. I am beginning to sound like a kid again. Lol

what I really want to know is how to create a sheet and how to attack.. I have been reading and reading but I can't create the sheet. like what will be my base melee attack, or how do I put Armor class, that kinda stuff.. It's confusing...

Ah square one then ok I'll try to help you.  You could also look at the example sheet to try and help, but I'll try and explain things.  You should have 32 points to point buy your stats.  So you first step should be to pick a class.  So let's say you want to use sword like me well a fighter would be your best bet. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter  So in this example let's say Bob or rather you is a fighter well the skill you want most is str.  And lets say your human which means you also get a +2 to any stat.  btw this should help in point buy http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics...cores/ability-scores.  Anyways let's say you want to be a little more balanced.  So lets say your stats look like this

Str 18 (10 points +2 from race)  +4
Dex: 12(2 points) +1
Con  14(5 points) +2
Int 14(5 points) +2
Wis 14(5 points) +2
Cha 14(5 points) +2

your hp is always max -2 however in this case your con is +2 so they even out so max would be 10 for fighter for 30 or 33 if you choose to put favored class ability in hp.

From their you go to what lever you will be which should be three and look on the site I gave you to find your base attack bonus +3 in this case.  You then add your strength mod to it since it's close quarters so +7.  So not factoring in feats you would roll 1 d20 +7 to attack.  Next ac your best bet is to break it down it makes it easier.  Lets say you have full plate mail http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipm...C-Armor-Shield-Bonus this should help their.  so that +9 so your ac and lets say you have a heavy shield +2 ac it would look like this.

base 10 +9 armor +2 shield +0 dex

for a total of 21 ac.  Keep in mind I did not add the Dex mod as using heavier armor comes with a cost that you can't move as well therefor you would be denied your ex bonus until you get stronger.  from their you would do your feats http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats.  What type of feats you take are up to you depending on how you want to play.  Now mind you this is all an example keep in mind you do have only 3,000 gp to start with the cost of every item is always listed so use this well.  I hope this helps I can go even deeper into detail if you wish however I do highly suggest you make up your own mind on how you want to play as it will help you find the correct feats and other things to focus on :).
This message was last edited by the player at 02:39, Sat 16 Jan 2016.

So let's say I'll build a level one human monk this could be my stats? Since


Class(es)   : Monk
Class Bonus :
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 Ability Scores

 Strength     : 9 (-1)
 Dexterity    : 3 (-4)
 Constitution : 5 (-4)
 Intelligence : 3 (-4)
 Wisdom       : 9 (-1)
 Charisma     : 3 (-4)

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 Saving Throws

 Fortitude  :
 Reflex     :
 Will       :

Conditional Bonuses and Penalties :
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 Combat Statistics

 Hit Points        :
 Base Attack (BAB) : +0
 Initiative        : +3     3 Dex + 0 misc

 Base Melee        : +9    0 BAB + 9 Str + 0 misc
 Base Ranged       : +3   0 BAB + 3 Dex + 0 misc

 Combat Maneuver   : -1         0 BAB - 1 Str + 0 misc          <- CMB
 Maneuver Defense  : +5    10 + 0 BAB - 1 Str - 4 Dex + 0 misc  <- CMD

 Armor Class       : 13    10 base + 0 armor + 0 shield + 3 Dex + 0 misc
 Touch AC          : 13    10 base                      + 3 Dex + 0 misc
 Flat-Footed AC    : 10    10 base + 0 armor + 0 shield         + 0 misc
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 Attacks

W
 eapon       Atk    Damage    Type   Crit    Range   Special


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 Racial Abilities and Features

 Bonus Feat: Humans select one extra feat at 1st level.
 Skilled: Humans gain an additional skill rank at first level and one additional rank
 whenever they gain a level.
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 Class Abilities and Features

 Proficient with the brass knuckles, cestus, club, crossbow (light or heavy),
 dagger, handaxe, javelin, kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shortspear, short sword,
 shuriken, siangham, sling, spear and temple sword.

 Not proficient with any armor or shields. When wearing armor, using a shield, or
 carrying a medium or heavy load, and loses his AC bonus, as well as fast movement
 and flurry of blows abilities.

 When unarmored and unencumbered, add Wisdom bonus (if any) to AC and CMD.
 Gains a +1 bonus to AC and CMD at 4th level. This bonus increases
 by 1 for every four levels thereafter, up to a maximum of +5 at 20th level.

 These bonuses to AC apply even against touch attacks or whenflat-footed.
 Lose bonuses when immobilized or helpless, when wearing any armor, when carrying a shield,
 or when carrying a medium or heavy load.

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 Traits and Feats

 Starting at 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action.

 Racial Feats :
 Bonus Feats :

 At 1st level, a monk gains Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat.
 At 1st level, the monk gains Stunning Fist as a bonus feat, even if he does not meet the
 prerequisites.

This is just what I gleaned from yours.. I haven't completed the whole sheet but I hope I got the gist!

Your close but not quite their here let me show you mine fyi I left some things out for many reasons.
Name: Woren
Height         : 5'11"
 Weight         : 190
 Race           : Human
 Alignment      : NG
 Speed          : 30ft
 Total Level    : 10
 Experience     : 105,000 / 71,000
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 Character Class Information

 Class and Level      : Fighter level 10
 Class and Level      :
 Class and Level      :

 Favorite Class(es)   : Fighter
 Favorite Class Bonus : +1 Hit point AND +1 skill point
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 Ability Scores

 Strength     : 20 (+5)     10 point buy + 2 racial + 0 level + 2 misc
 Dexterity    : 16 (+3)      5 point buy + 0 racial + 0 level + 2 misc
 Constitution : 14 (+2)      5 point buy + 0 racial + 0 level + 0 misc
 Intelligence : 22 (+6)      7 point buy + 0 racial + 1 level + 6 misc
 Wisdom       : 18 (+4)      2 point buy + 0 racial + 0 level + 6 misc
 Charisma     : 20 (+5)      3 point buy + 0 racial + 1 level + 6 misc
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 Combat Statistics

 Hit Points        : 112 (10/10 Temp HP)
 Base Attack (BAB) : +10
 Initiative        : +7     3 Dex + 4 misc

 Base Melee        : +15    10 BAB + 5 Str + 0 misc
 Base Ranged       : +13    10 BAB + 3 Dex + 0 misc

 Combat Maneuver   : +15         10 BAB + 5 Str + 0 misc          <- CMB
 Maneuver Defense  : 28     10 + 10 BAB + 5 Str + 3 Dex + 0 misc  <- CMD
*+2 CMD vs disarm and sunder

 Armor Class       : 29     10 base + 11 armor + 2 shield + 3 Dex + 3 misc
 Touch AC          : 15     10 base                       + 3 Dex + 2 misc
 Flat-Footed AC    : 26     10 base + 11 armor + 2 shield         + 3 misc
 *+1 AC, CMD and Reflex during Haste; +2 AC VS crminals

 DR 3/-
 Stamina pool: 12/12
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 Attacks

Weapon         Atk   Damage   Type   Crit    Range   Special
+2 herosword | +25 | 1d8+13 |  S   |19~20x2|       | 1-hand
+2 herosword | +22 | 1d8+19 |  S   |19~20x2|       | 1-hand+power attack
+2 herosword | +25 | 1d8+13 |  S   |17~20x2|       | 1-hand VS criminals

*+1 atk when using haste from boots
*+1 atk and dmg VS empire troops
*+4 atk when confirming critical
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 Saving Throws

 Fortitude  : +12   7 base + 2 Con + 3 misc
 Reflex     : +9    3 base + 3 Dex + 3 misc
 Will       : +14   3 base + 4 Wis + 7 misc

 Conditional Bonuses and Penalties : +2 VS fear
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 Racial Abilities and Features
 Racial feat - Gain 1 bonus feat at lvl 1.
 Skilled - +1 skill point per level.

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 Class Abilities and Features
 Proficient with all simple and martial weapons. With all armors and shields.

 Bonus feats - At 1st, 2nd and every 2 levels thereafter gain 1 Combat feat.
 Bravery - +3 to will saves.
 Armor training 2 - Reduce ACP by 2 and increase armor M.Dex by 2. Heavy armor
no longer impedes speed.
 Weapons training - +2 atk, dmg and disarm+Sunder CMD with Heavy Blades.
 Advanced Weapon training (Armed Bravery) - Bravery applies to all will save throws.
The DC to intimidate you is increased by double your bravery bonus.
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 Traits and Feats
 Trait #1 : Courageous - +2 save VS fear.
 Trait #2 : Armor expert - Reduce ACP by 1.
Racial  Feat: Weapon focus (longsword) - +1 atk with longswords. You can spend 2 Stamina points to have this feat apply to any weapon for 1 turn.

 Level 1 Feat: Power attack - optional: -3 atk; +6 dmg (+9 if 2-handed). By spending 2
stamina points you can turn off this feat at the end of your turn (instead of just at the start
of your turn).
 Level 3 Feat: Signature weapon(longsword) - +3 to attack with longsword
 Level 5 feat: Martial Training I - You can now use the Iron Turtle discipline.
Bluff is now a class skill. Gain two lvl 1 maneuvers. You can ready 1 maneuver. You can
regain 1 maneuver by spending a fullround action. All maneuvers are regained once a
fight ends.
 Level 7 feat: Athletic - +2 climb and swim. +4 if you have +10 ranks in them.
 Level 9 feat: Triple strike - 1/day, for 1 round, for each attack action you perform
you gain 2 extra attacks on the same target. These attacks are perform with non-magical weapons.

 Bonus 1 feat: Improved initiative - +4 initiative
 Bonus 1 feat: Combat Stamina - Gain a stamina pool equal to BaB + Con mod. When you attack
with an unarmed strike, manufactured or natural weapon, after the dice roll but before seeing the
result on whether the attack succeeds, you can spend up to 5 stamina points to increase the attack
roll by up to 5 points.
 Bonus 2 feat: Combat Reflexes - Gain extra Aoos equal to Dex mod. If you miss an Aoo you can
spend 2 stamina points to perform a 2nd Aoo attack for the same action that provoked the first,
but with a -5 atk penalty.
 Bonus 4 feat: Weapon Specialization - +2 bonus to dmg With longsword. You can spend 2 Stamina
points to have this feat apply to any weapon for 1 turn.
 Bonus 6 feat: Martial Training II - Gain two level 2 maneuvers and 1 stance.
You can ready 1 extra maneuver.
 Bonus 8 feat: Martial Training IV - Gain two level 4 maneuvers and 1 stance.
You can ready 1 extra maneuver.
 Bonus 10 feat: Expert trainer - Retraining any takes you half the time it normally would
(and thus half the gp cost).
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 Skills and Languages  9x10= 90 skill points

 Your maximum ranks in a skill are equal to your total level.
 Class skills with at least 1 skill rank in them gain a +3 "class" bonus.
 [c] denotes a class skill.
 ^ denotes a skill that cannot be used untrained.

 [ ] Acrobatics         : +00    0 ranks + 3 Dex + 0 class + 0 misc - 3 armor
 [ ] Appraise           : +00    0 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Artistry           : +00    0 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [c] Bluff              : +13    5 ranks + 5 Cha + 3 class + 0 misc
 [c] Climb              : +12    5 ranks + 5 Str + 3 class + 2 misc - 3 armor
 [c] Craft: weapon      : +00    0 ranks + 6 Int + 3 class + 0 misc
 [c] Craft Alchemy      : +19   10 ranks + 6 Int + 3 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Diplomacy          : +00    0 ranks + 5 Cha + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Disable Device ^   :   -    0 ranks + 3 Dex + 0 class + 0 misc - 3 armor
 [ ] Disguise           : +00    0 ranks + 5 Cha + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Escape Artist      : +00    0 ranks + 3 Dex + 0 class + 0 misc - 3 armor
 [ ] Fly                : +00    0 ranks + 3 Dex + 0 class + 0 misc - 3 armor
 [c] Handle Animal ^    : +10    2 ranks + 5 Cha + 3 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Heal               : +9     5 ranks + 4 Wis + 0 class + 0 misc
 [c] Intimidate         : +12    4 ranks + 5 Cha + 3 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Know: Arcana ^     : +16   10 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [c] Know: Dungeon ^    : +13    4 ranks + 6 Int + 3 class + 0 misc
 [c] Know: Engineer ^   : +14    5 ranks + 6 Int + 3 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Know: Geography ^  :   -    0 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Know: History ^    :   -    0 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [c] Know: Local ^      : +13    4 ranks + 6 Int + 3 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Know: Nature ^     :   -    0 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Know: Nobility ^   :   -    0 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Know: Planes ^     : +16   10 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Know: Religion ^   : +16   10 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Linguistics ^      :   -    0 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [c] Lore Evocation ^   : +18    9 ranks + 6 Int + 3 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Perception         : +14   10 ranks + 4 Wis + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Perform:           : +00    0 ranks + 5 Cha + 0 class + 0 misc
 [c] Profession:Soldier^: +19   10 ranks + 4 Wis + 3 class + 2 misc
 [c] Ride               : +8     5 ranks + 3 Dex + 3 class + 0 misc - 3 armor
 [ ] Sense Motive       : +06    0 ranks + 4 Wis + 0 class + 2 misc
 [ ] Sleight of Hand ^  :   -    0 ranks + 3 Dex + 0 class + 0 misc - 3 armor
 [ ] Spellcraft ^       :   -    0 ranks + 6 Int + 0 class + 0 misc
 [ ] Stealth            : +00    0 ranks + 3 Dex + 0 class + 0 misc - 3 armor
 [c] Survival           : +14    7 ranks + 4 Wis + 3 class + 0 misc
 [c] Swim               : +12    5 ranks + 5 Str + 3 class + 2 misc - 3 armor
 [ ] Use Magic Device ^ :   -    0 ranks + 5 Cha + 0 class + 0 misc

 Languages : Common, Elven, Dwarven.
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 Money and Equipment

 Armor     : Adamant Fullplate armor +2 (+11 AC; m.Dex 3; -2 ACP; Heavy; 50 lbs)
 Belt      : Belt of Physical might +2 (+2 Str and Dex; 1 lbs)
 Body      :
 Chest     :
 Eyes      :
 Feet      : Boots of Speed (10/day as a free action gain haste for 1 round 1 lbs)
 Hands     :
 Head      :
 Headband  : Headband of mental superiority +6 (+6 to all mental ability scores; max
3 knowledge skills; 1 lbs)
 Neck      : Amulet of Natural Armor +1 (+1 Natural AC)
 Ring #1   : Ring of protection +2 (+2 Deflection AC)
 Ring #2   : Ring of Foe Focus (+2 AC and saving throws VS 1 enemy at a time)
 Shield    : MW heavy steel shield (+2 AC; -1 ACP; 15 lbs) 170g
 Shoulders : Cloak of Resistance +3 (+3 save rolls; 1 lbs)
 Wrists    :

 Weapon : Hero Longsword +2 (+2 enhancement; 1 Hero point; Intelligent: NG; INT 14;
Empathy; Leaping (the weapon moves to your hand automatically); 30ft senses; Ego: 22
At will: Create Ice (turn 1 square into difficult terrain); Infuse weapon (+1 dmg)
Double take (2 rolls on perception); Balance Weapon (+1 atk); Irksome weapon
(http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/...lls/i/irksome-weapon); Bash (+2 atk on next attack;
-10% miss chance VS concealed enemies); Guardian Mote (absorb 1d3 incoming weapon dmg);
Parry Strike (+2 AC VS next melee attack); Parry Shot (+2 AC VS next ranged attack).
1/day Augury; http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/augury
1/day Dispel Magic; http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/...pells/d/dispel-magic
3/day Cure light wounds; Heal 1d8+5 HP
1/day Symbol of Healing; Heal 2d8+7 HP to all creatures with 60ft. Damages undead.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/.../s/symbol-of-healing
1/day Weapon's Storm; Create 2 duplicates of your weapon for 5 rounds that attack the
same enemy you hit. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/...ells/w/weapons-storm
Special Purpose: Slay/Defeat Imperials; Devotion power: Detect Imperials within 60ft) 4 lbs
 Weapon :
 Ammo :

 Other Equipment :
 Item                     #   Cost   Weight   Location   Notes
 MW Backpack              1    50g    4 lbs   Back       +1 Str carry (125 lbs)
 Cold-Weather Oufit       1     8g    7 lbs   Worn       +5 vs cold weather
 Handy haversack                      5 lbs   Backpack   59/120 lbs capacity
 -Traveler's Outfit       1     1g    5 lbs   Haversack
 -Soldier's Uniform       1     -     5 lbs   Haversack
 -Goblet of Quenching     1   270g    1 lbs   Haversack
 -Mysterious Box          1     -     3 lbs   Haversack   Empty
 -Cauldron of plenty      1     -    25 lbs   Haversack
 -Grooming kit            5      -   10 lbs   Haversack   130/250
 -Gear Maintenance kit    5      -   10 lbs   Haversack
 Bag of holding I         1 3,125g   15 lbs   Worn       211/250 lbs capacity
 -Large Tent              2    60g   80 lbs              Each fits 4 medium creatures
 -Campsite Kit (6 people) 1    12g   58 lbs              No rations, cooking kit, firewood
 -Shaving kit             2     4g    3 lbs              35/50
 -Money                   -  3,566g  35 lbs
Consumables
 -Potion of Barkskin      2                              +3 Nat AC for 1 hour
 -Potion of Magic fang    2                              +1 weapon enchantment for 1 min. to animal
 -Potion of C. M. wounds 12                              heal 2d8+3 HP
 -Potion of Remove disease1                              Cures disease
 -Shield of Faith +4      1                              Potion, +4 Deflection AC for 12 minutes
 -Acid                    6           6 lbs              1d6 acid splash dmg
 -Alchemical fire         6           6 lbs              1d6 fire splash dmg
 -Holy water              5           5 lbs              2d4 holy splash dmg
 -Tanglefoot bag          3   150g   12 lbs              Same as entangle spell
 -Vile of Dragon Bile     1
 -Vile of Scorpion venom  4
Miscellaneous
 -Periapt of Protection from Curses
 -Spiritualist rings      1
 -Book ???                1           5 lbs
 -Treasurer's Seal        1           1 lbs
 -Circlet of persuasion   1                              +3 to Cha based checks.
 -Hat of Disguise         1                              Same as Disguise self spell

 Money : 77 GP; 4 SP; 4 CP (0 lbs)
 Gems  : 25,000 GP worth

Current Load  : 104 lbs.

 Maximum Load  : 460 lbs.   (0~153 light; 153~306 medium)
 Lift Overhead : 400 lbs.   (equal to Maximum Load)
 Lift          : 800 lbs.   (equal to Maximum Load x2)
 Drag or Push  : 2000 lbs.  (equal to Maximum Load x5)
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Maneuvers:
Initiator level: 10

Known:
1st:
Iron shell - Roll an attack roll with your shield (full bab + Shield AC)
against a single enemy melee or ranged attack (that is not a spell or power). If
your attack roll is higher negate that attack. Immediate action.

2nd:
Taunting Turtle - Choose 1 enemy. If he fails a DC 17 will save he MUST
attack you on his next turn. Swift action.
Enraging strike - Attack 1 enemy. The attack does +10 dmg and if it hits
the enemy has to make a DC 16 will save. If he fails it he MUST attack you with a
melee attack on his next turn. He suffers a -2 atk penalty on that attack. Standard
action.
Defensive Shell - Make a shield bash against an enemy attack aimed at an ally.
If successful the attack is negated, Immediate action.

3rd:
Burnished Shell - Make an opposed attack roll plus shield bonus to AC vs an
enemy spellcaster's CL to deny the effects of a spell targeted on you. Immediate action.

4th:
Aggravated Wounds - Anyone you hit for 1 round suffers a cumulative -4 penalty to
attacks against anyone other than you. Swift action.
Snapping Riposte Counter - Roll an attack roll with your shield against an enemy
attack roll. If your attack roll is higher negate that enemy with your sword. Immediate action.

Stances:
Defending Shell - Increase Shield AC by +3.
Iron Tortoise Stance - While in this stance: Increase reach of Aoos by 5 ft.
Gain 1 Aoo per turn (stacks with Combat reflexes), treat CMD as though you are 1
size step larger.

Readied:
-Aggravated Wounds (Swift)
-Iron shell (Immediate)
-Burnished shell (Immediate)
-Snapping Riposte Counter (Immediate)

Things you got wrong: you are level 3 not one and you didn't spend your points right.  If you don't spend any points you have a 10.  Every time you hit an even number like 12,14,16 etc you can another +1 to that stat and anything that uses that stat.  For an example if you had a  strength of 18 that would be +4 like I said already.  Your current sheet you would have -1 if not more in everything and you don't want that trust me.  Look at that site I gave you for more info on point buy.  Now mind you you are close try using the info I gave you and my sheet to build on your knowledge and let me know what else you need to have explained to you and I'll do my best to help.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:41, Sat 16 Jan 2016.

Ok let me clear it out..

 For level one let say with nothing but the base stat, not counting the gears and such..

 Ability Scores

 Strength     : 19 (+4)      9 point buy + 0 racial + 0 level + 0 misc
 Dexterity    : 16 (+2)      6 point buy + 0 racial + 0 level + 0 misc
 Constitution : 14 (+2)      4 point buy + 0 racial + 0 level + 0 misc
 Intelligence : 13 (+1)      3 point buy + 0 racial + 0 level + 6 misc
 Wisdom       : 18 (+4)      7 point buy + 0 racial + 0 level + 6 misc
 Charisma     : 13 (+1)      3 point buy + 0 racial + 0 level + 0 misc

And so my Stats would be:

 HP                : d8
 Initiative        : +2     +2 Dex + 0 misc
 Base Melee        : +14    10 BAB + 4 Str + 0 misc
 Base Ranged       : +12    10 BAB + 2 Dex + 0 misc

 Combat Maneuver   : +14          10 BAB + 4 Str + 0 misc          <- CMB
 Maneuver Defense  : +26     10 + 10 BAB + 4 Str + 2 Dex + 0 misc  <- CMD

 Armor Class       : 12     10 base + 0 armor + 0 shield + 2 Dex + 0 misc
 Touch AC          : 12     10 base                      + 2 Dex + 0 misc
 Flat-Footed AC    : 10     10 base + 0 armor + 0 shield         + 0 misc

And Saving Throws would be:

 Fortitude  : +2   0 base + 2 Con + 0 misc
 Reflex     : +2   0 base + 2 Dex + 0 misc
 Will       : +4   0 base + 4 Wis + 0 misc

Then I'll be adding the stats from class and race the from the items such as armor right?

Not quite right your getting closer first of all you don't have misc I only have those because of my magic items.  Also your additions from your stats are wrong.  here this will tell you about ability score http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/gettingStarted.html.  You did however spend your points right so kudos.  Also you bab would not be ten it would be three typically.  Mine is a ten because I'm level ten.  also you don't roll for your hp like I said it's max -2 however max would be 8 +2 from con -2 from game for 8.  your almost their though so try rereading through the sites I have given you they are your best source.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:33, Sat 16 Jan 2016.

Hello, gonna go through and do stats once I can get at my books.

Oh new person welcome if you need any help let me know ok :).

I've had experience making characters (I sometimes just stat people up for fun:P) but every game I've tried to join never started, or almost immediately died off.

I used to do that as well I always used the four d6 drop the lowest re-roll ones way of doing that.  I used to have fun trying different things just to see what I could make.  Still if you need anything feel free to ask ok.

I like point buy. I tend to poke around to see what kind of fun, powerful builds I can make while not being plain Munchkining, and in-character, by way of synergy.
I'll show what I have once I do my preliminary work, before then going back to finalize.

Wow, school got busy. I had to use the time I usually post/work on stuff like that to do my homework because I had to work tonight. :P

Was gonna do it last night, that didn't work, surprise event. :P

And life, school, and my job have interfered more. Partway done, hopefully I can finish the rest soon if I don't get more Homework.

In reply to Allyin (msg # 55):

Intercepting Shade - Make a counter attack roll with your bow against an enemy's
attack within 110ft. If successful the attack is negated. Immediate action. (Solar)

In this case does the Boat count as a ally or even self, and the Eel Count as a charging Barbarian?

Umm what?  Hey are you the same player from before?  If not when did you get here?  Sorry I'm a bit confused with you showing out of the blue.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 57):

Litterally, I used to play here but couldn't handle being a single player and being party leader. Dm passed me this character to Mull over as far as stepping into the campaign.

I noticed you were attacking the Eels, or atleast shooting at the water.
I figured this maneuver could be used to target one while it charges/attack the boat to attack, it while it's visible and potentially stop a attack while damaging it without worrying about aquatic combat rules.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say no the boat is not an ally it's just a boat that we are riding on.  Also don't worry about aquatic combat we are firing on it from the ship because going in after it is stupid.  Oh and I took your turn for you to hep you out so we can keep moving and to give you time to get used to things.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:43, Thu 21 Apr 2016.

I haven't decided on this character, I'm not too keen on manuvers or companion/elodion mechanics. Feel free to keep on playing, it was merely a suggestion.


I have a charging rogue with a spear in mind that would benifit from having a teamwork user in the group.

HOLY CRAP what a day and rpol goes down sorry everyone for the delay I also apologize for taking your turn but thanks for understanding.  In the end if you are allowed to make your own charter is up to the gm not me.  If you need any help let me know ok.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 61):

Lol your not taking my turns, right now I'm only reading along to your story.
 Once I figure out something cozy for me, and plausible/fitting for the dm i'll look at finding a way in, for now, Entertain me!

Uh huh.


lol XD my story is something to say the least and it's really REALLY long and I have no intention of stopping anytime soon.

Rpol unofficial updater app?

?????? huh WTF are you talking about I just keep track of this via my computer.  I don't think their is an app like that at least not as far as I know.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 65):

There is on google play, gives you a text alert and a notification link to the game.

Busy building 2 regular character sheets in other games atm.

Hmmmm, lets make a short recap of Woren't adventure thus far, shall we?

Jumping off cliffs into raging waters; witnessing unholy massacres; war; government cover ups; undead supermonks; ninjas; city riots; betrayal; war; shadow weavers; outrunning gigantic explosions; mystic trents; heralds of the gods; prophesy; secret pasts; ancient psychotic possessed nymphs; war; criminal masterminds; infiltrating behind enemy lines; brush with death a few dozen times; gambling yakuza; sneaking through enemy occupied cities; war; undead zombie hordes; cloned vampires; escaping cities under siege; war; founding new nations; eradicating evil syndicates; dealing with planeswalking soul-trading merchants; monsters from other worlds; and last but not least, WAR!

In reply to GM (msg # 67):

Oooo! I heard yakuza.



Did you kill them, can I be the loyal hound assassin back from the hunt to find master dead in a pool of blood?

No Woren recruited them. You can choose to be one of them if you wish. One of them is a sea captain/smuggler, the other is his brother.

In reply to GM (msg # 69):

Does the brother have a reason to be in the general region, are we doing a prison break?

No he does not have a reason to be on the ship. Yanma Ho is in Kuskus. He's part of the government (the treasurer to be precise). You are all currently traveling to Kento because Woren got news that the climate was ripe for forming an alliance.

In reply to GM (msg # 71):

Is there a recruitable barbarian/rogue ish character there I could step into?

Yes, but much later in the game if by the way things are going is any indication. Woren is kinda reactive rather than proactive.

Yeah I kinda am although I'm getting better everyday and continue to improve, but I also like the way Woren is it's fun :).

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 74):

If I remember correctly you had to drag me after the river north to save my life companion from a execution with a time penalty.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 74):

I was not criticizing your way of playing. Common sense dictates that you should put out the fire in front of you before you go looking for other places where a fire might start.

Oh and Woren, the guy playing Kineson right now left Jirou to die ^{(boo, hiss)}. And speaking of you, Kineson feel free to RP in the current thread.
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:52, Sat 23 Apr 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 76):

I have read the past 12 pages to get a impression, I was planning tonight for catch up.

In reply to GM (msg # 76):

Ha ha I figured I was more so saying that I keep getting better as a player with the more I learn is all.  Also wow you let Jirou die thats heartless.  Then again Woren is the kind of guy who values those close to him and will do everything in his power to help them.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 78):

Hey I was just sacrificed by those I trusted, for the sake of the village, left for dead, and imprisoned in good faith.
No one told me jirou was my sister's lover.

He wasn't. But he was your best friend.

In reply to GM (msg # 80):

Pig headed, run back to the village just betrayed you, and more then that made your life miserable for years, Fool.

In reply to Kineson (msg # 81):

Yes, you're right. Don't go and reveal the truth. Don't go and stop the entire world from plunging into war. Fool.

In reply to Kineson (msg # 79):

Looks like if I am going to roll a rogue I need to do it now, are those snowy i'm gone for weeks survival training mountains I see in the picture?

That's a rough idea. Could give up traps for, Or my charcter sheet post can vanish.

Rake Archetype:
The rake is a rogue who is open about her skills and talents, often to the point of being boastful. Usually she has the protection of an important figure who finds her services useful, but sometimes her bravado is enough to keep enemies away. She is often used as a face for the group for diplomacy, gathering information, negotiations, or to gain the most lucrative contracts and quests from local authorities.


Survivalist Archetype: The survivalist focuses her talents on surviving harsh and unforgiving conditions that would kill a lesser rogue. Whether in blazing deserts or frigid arctic wastes—or simply the cold, hard reality of the streets—the survivalist uses her training to both ensure her own success and provide for the safety of her allies.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:42, Sun 24 Apr 2016.

In reply to Kineson (msg # 85):
So
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tum...6wb1qhyte9o1_500.gif
Or
http://www.chadsenga.com/wp-co.../01/gintama257-2.jpg
This message was last edited by the player at 16:55, Tue 26 Apr 2016.

This is basically how I envision Woren right now.

It's a very accurate depiction given the armor he wears and his fighting style (sword and shield). Not to mention the bright sword fragment (a sun and sword on his shield and he uses a shield based technique but also can summon a swarm of blades).

In reply to GM (msg # 88):

I don't want to harm your kineson character sheet, do you need to move it before I rewrite it?

I have a copy of that sheet as well as several others as I handle almost all the rolls for them.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 90):

well I was referring to the dm, as I was assigned the character with sheet, then only my named changed, so I don't know they have a digital copy before I write over it.

Him and I share a pm with that sheet so it should be fine.  I also looked over your sheet are a you a multi class type of character?  If so can you please say how many levels you have in each class?  Kinda like this warrior lv3 rouge lv4 etc.  Also that post in game seemed like something for the OOC not for in game it's kinda confusing.  Oh and one more thing I looked at the dice roller why were you trying to gather info?  If you are doing this then you need to specify in post what you are trying to learn and you also need to roll a diplomacy roll to see if you manage to gather said info.  Hope this helps and don't take any of this the wrong way I'm just trying to help.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 92):

It was a pm, and as for that sheet, I'm multi archityped single class.

I would be more then happy to explain it after I join :-)

I did try to gather info, but decided it was taking to long and abandon the skill check / quit.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:03, Wed 27 Apr 2016.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 93):

Personality wise, my character is a save his own hide and keep his life as easy as possible.

Life hasn't been kind to him, never was, but he also never did anything to deserve good things. He represents the worst crimal scum, the ones whose qualms about killing are twofold. Mainly it causes mess and problems, and two live and let live till letting live is a danger to you.

There worse and better criminals out there. I'm just a skilled survivalist, the streets are a rough place to grow up, someplaces more then others.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:41, Wed 27 Apr 2016.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 94):

It started out as a lawless rogue, then poison and evil conditions were set, then I decided poison was a pain to deal with, so I switch over to ninja since they are practically the same, then ninja had to many supernatural abilities so we bickered, then I found a combat style I thought was cool worked it, then scanned the archetypes and found one that thematically fit what the dm wanted, and mechanically fit what I needed. Then we did some spinning around.

This is the difference between rogues and ninjas.
Trapfinding = Poison Use.
Evasion = ki pool + lightstep.

I grab a archetype to get rid of uncanny dodge for greater ability to trigger sneak attacks, the scout.

Picked up a ability that makes my sneak attack add Fixed damage(thus multiplied in a crit, even though my primary attack form has a basic critical chance).

Then I got rid of   Evasion/Ki-pool+LightStep for the Wolfhead archetype.
Ruffian for +hp and Saving throw boost putting me roughly on par with monks, and trading TrapSense for NoTrace.

And added in the poisoner archetype for poison stuff replaced with NoTrace.

So when the musical chairs are all finished, every ability is accounted for though i'm mixing archetypes from ninja and rogue.

I am XENA with poison smoke bombs, good saves and ok health. I can not walk on water normally, and I can sneak attack you even if your looking at me just by moving around first. If we have someone with snatch arrows, that would be awesome, because I can't catch my chakram even though I can bounce them to new targets. Just not worth the fingers to learn to try.

Once I sneak attack you, you bleed and I can sneak attack some more because your bleeding.

My craft alchemy score is insanely high, though if I use it for anything besides poisons the dm may hit me with a book.

My heal is high enough to be used in a clutch situation, or if I accidently poison or sneak attack the wrong thing, or on my self(thanks to a trait) if I run off like the wounded dog I am.

I am streetwise, not epically but enough if dm lets me take 10s sometimes.

I am Evil, I don't go out of my way to avoid hurting(innocent) people in a fight, but also don't try to pick places with (innocents) to fight in usually. Don't expect me to save your butt after you get jailed unless I have a personal investment of my life or other significant reason to do so.

What is obvious is you guys pulling a stunt like that at fourstreams will get you and a lot of bad people and a lot of innocent people dead in the process, if there is such as a thing as innocent people in fourstreams. Everyone that's anyone also knows about the kuskus debacle and you can bet they will be watching you closely.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 95):

I used to have 5 core games run by 1 dm and then he cut it to 3 games updated weekly instead of every 1,2 days.
'S game slowed down, and the other one I am trying to join is taking a while to start.

Mostly I'm just board.

Well I got a hold of the gm and he is very busy with work, but as someone who has been a part of this game for over a year I can safely say that when he gets a chance he'll post.  But as I always say rl always comes before rp, but with some luck things will get better :).

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 97):

I know the drill, just down seasons are bad for my mental heath. Other game is in full swing now though.

It's as Woren said, I've been busy IRL but I'm back now. Sorry for that but to those of you new here know that I'd never abandon the game without telling you.

If I ever decide to permanently abandon the game ^{or kick someone out} I'll at least have the courtesy to tell you beforehand (even if it's just to say "I've had it with this shit! GTFO!") instead of just vanishing without a word.

In reply to GM (msg # 99):

never said otherwise, just off-gassing :-(

In reply to GM (msg # 99):

Nice to have you back gm :).

Just a small reminder, the party size maximum is 6 people. No more. If Saito joins you'll need to send someone else packing.

Yeah I know so my current part is Maiko, who will never leave Woren's side.  Genger who will be of great use in these lands for his knowledge.  Clint who won't leave if their is even a small chance to find this women.  Luc our mage and Kineson so that leaves Kineson as the odd man out for now.  So I'll send him back for now.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 103):

Seems to be one more option, you having a boat, clint may be able to cross the river before his woman  with the bridges out at fourstreams.

Why do you keep saying that the bridges for Fourstreams are out?
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:54, Mon 02 May 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 105):



Miss-Interpreting this, I thought Kento was where Woren set up shop, and north of it was fourstreams where this guy came from, but he couldn't get there because of bridge burning. closer inspection implies Woren is from Yuzna, and that the captical of Kento isn't Fourstreams.

*sigh* please look at the game map.

Woren's castle is that little red dot in Yuzna state that says Necron's castle ruins.

Kento is a country west of Yuzna. The bridges connecting Yuzna and Kento are destroyed.

Fourstreams are those 3 red dots at the north end of Kento (on the border whene Merdrarel begins) is Fourstreams, the official capital of Kento.

In reply to GM (msg # 107):

He could always try to ditch your flying in the sewer :D

True. Or squeeze into some basement as soon as he's out of sight.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 108):

Really REALLY.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 110):

Open air Markets generally have enough sun shade he could run into the crowd, hide and ditch both of you or atleast you, then use the crowds to keep maiko hindered long enough to get away, and dart in a ruined building.

He actually did do that and it was effective, except Woren had a bird's eye viewpoint and the crowds were mostly human (all of which gawked at him) so disappearing among them while under such screwteny from Woren wasn't really an option.

Did I also mention tengu have wings?
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:46, Wed 04 May 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 112):

During the gliding bit, but you didn't specify if they have a fly speed other then falling gracefully :)

Glide, by definition, means graceful falling and not flying. Pathfinder system-wise that means:

This message was last edited by the GM at 23:49, Wed 04 May 2016.

Saito, feel free to jump in at any time.

In reply to GM (msg # 115):

With party in tow?
This message was last edited by the player at 15:54, Thu 05 May 2016.

Why not.

I'm a little confused. Why roll stealth when you're steping up out of the crowd and puting arms around guards?

In reply to GM (msg # 118):

For a abrupt and sudden entrance, I assume he has a pack of guards and I want to be on him before one of the others shout out a warning.

Dramatic reveal lol XD.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 120):

To put it simply, so head would be flatfooted when I appear behind him, for circumstantial bonuses and to add something for him to think about in the future.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:23, Fri 06 May 2016.

...you did read the private message in the previous post saying you had a past with that man, right?

In reply to GM (msg # 122):

Yes but I really can't see a character that is both terrified of something from his past AND willing to let the cause of that terror go unpunished.

I'm also no longer the little kid I was then, and have had to face other scary things since that day.

I'm a selfish jerk, and right now I have a demon from my past, and my ticket to being a 'free' man on the line. If Razoul gets my ticket, then pretty little Woren won't be so pretty anymore.

Nothing like someone whose life you ruined years ago, coming up behind you to scare a little sense down your spine.

Recommendation: You want to scare somebody? Use Intimidate.

Also, use common sense.

In reply to GM (msg # 124):

Intimidation is bad, that starts fights. Intimidate things you don't mind getting in a fight with.

Diplomacy is for avoiding fights, and causing distractions.

Yes because it's so easy to get on someone's good side after you've

So the gm just gave me a brief summery of your past what your doing would cause a fight.  You don't have to be afraid of him, but until Woren can maybe help you your still wanted and hated by this guy.  A good idea for you is that you are surrounded by Woren's allies and a crowd of people so rally them.  Use the fact that Woren just showed off his mark make them turn into a mob of sorts.  This way they can start to make the captain feel like he's wrong or has to let Woren go or else he'll have a riot on his hands for detaining a know hero and important person with whom they want an alliance.  I think this might be best don't you gm?

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 127):

So I beat their roll, and tied them, so their +4 initiative modifer trumps my +3 and they get to act first.

No, you don't tie them, their grapple check simply fails (probably because you dance away of the way before they can pile on you). Their initiative roll was 21. You have yet to make an initiative roll (although I can make those for you in the future if you want to).

In reply to GM (msg # 129):

Guards rolled 21 using 1D20+4 initiative?
Saito rolled 21 using 1d20+3 initiative

In this case you are faster. Because you're initiative modifier is bigger.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:18, Fri 06 May 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 131):

Ok then, must have misread something again.

Makes my next course of action clear. Heckling sounds good, but will require some help if I find some rules for it somewhere.

Oh wait, sorry my bad, I only just noticed that THEIR initiative modifier was greater (not vice versa). Yup, the grapple was a success. They caught you. You're screwed if you don't turn it around.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamema...g/combat#TOC-Grapple
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:28, Fri 06 May 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 133):

Not much of a surprise round, any chance of dropping a smoke bomb amd letting them grapple each other?

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 134):

Nevermind, I'm grappled not pinned I think. Means I could do it, but concealment only helps so much when your hugged.

To even do what I want i'd have to break grapple first and still have time to drop a bomb.

Congrats Saito, Woren vouched for you. You are a free man, again.

In reply to GM (msg # 136):

No longer restrained yes, more like parolee, Lots of stigma, and probably going to have a plains clothe shadowing me around whenever convenient for the guard.

Which means I probably won't have access to poison making materials while in town due to scrutiny for everyone's safety, and I'll assume I have none made and will have to acquire or craft any I do need at my own risk.

Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaah no they're not going to do that. This is a fantasy world, not modern day American police force.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 137):

http://datadrivencity.com/wp-c...f-jail-free-card.jpg


Wink, he wants to wait cause you smell like road, travel on the ground like a commoner to get here, is looking for a way to blackmail/manipulate or otherwise influence you in discussions to his advantage, and generally was not prepared for you arrival which may have displaced his hidden agendas by actually showing up, or he just wants to ensure your things are returned first.

I'm sure it is one of these.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:03, Sun 08 May 2016.

Maybe but Woren essentially just did this.

The noble court was just using double-talk all the time. For example, by saying you are younger than him he's implying you are too young to be a leader and questioning why he (or anyone) should take you seriously. Then he answers his own question by saying you are "gifted from birth" for such a position in order to beat that argument before you can say it by reversing it on you by saying you aren't "gifted" after all since you're not blood related to Inkaku (the name upon which you've based your entire position). So in essence he makes a full circle and hammers in the suggestion that you are too young for leadership and thus shouldn't be taken seriously.

The nobles are laughing because all of this (and more) is going over Woren's head (who takes everything that is said literally) and thus comes off as an uncultured savage that has no place leading a country.

Finch (who knows doublespeak) figured out what was going on and tried to help you, but was outgunned (because in a battle of court innuendo your position is your armor and your wit+circumstance+record is your weapons).

Would you like me to translate the rest of what was really said in the noble court?

In reply to GM (msg # 141):

I"d rather keep making conspiracy theories and throwing them out there, maybe I'll think up a good one eventually maybe..

I guess but Woren does not double talk he just says hey guess what I may be young I may not know about court stuff but I'm a warrior unlike you.  Which means unlike these guys he's seen battle and not lived in safety and that he is also one of the only members of the alliance left.  As such they don't really have a choice but to deal with him or stand alone and get crushed because they are too stupid to realize that they will be executed just like the leader of Yuzuna to prove a point to the rest of the people.  Woren will happily cut to the heart of the matter and will not become a yes men he will tell it how it is without fear.  So yeah mic drop lol XD.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 143):

Does Maiko have Wholeness of Body (Su) or does she still have that 30 damage from jumping off a roof.

Yes well as you said, he doesn't doubletalk so he didn't tell them any of that.

BTW the post is up. Saito feel free to join in at any time.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:32, Sun 08 May 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 145):

Option, I suggest we send 1 person outside capable of nabbing a window jumping tengu boy.

Too bad nether of you thought of that before posting your posts that you'd be entering the room.

Yeah, Woren has a lot of hissy fits. You better get used to it.

Also I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that it was Woren who chose to keep the 2 conflicting fragments for their power despite the warning from Luc that ill fortune would come his way..

In reply to GM (msg # 148):

Makes sense, Normally I would have stopped the people in the hall and asked, Woren's little brother, ye'h tall, feathers.

Then been like, you knows he waiting for you to go near that door right, he is a cheekly little brat like that.


But it's been a intense morning for me, and I feel like eggshells are everywhere now that i'm not condemned to death on sight by any one, any time. Not that most people are aware of that.

Gambling, gambling dⁱ/_estresses everything.

You can make the rolls for me, or tell me which ones I should roll :D I'm trying not to get in fights, but if one does happen I'd like to get out of it without more then a scratchy dust cloud and running away. If intimidate fails to cow them.

If you're gathering information then a diplomacy roll with a 1d4 (to see duration in terms of hours). If gambling then a profession roll. Keep in mind that if you don't get 8 hours of sleep/rest you ill suffer fatigue.

In reply to GM (msg # 150):

Well gotta gamble to sleep/eat, have almost no money on character despite everything. It was morning (according to the picture) before we started running around town and breaking things. Even with all the politics it can't be much more then 4-5 in the evening.

dawn is roughly 6 am to say the worst that gives me 4 hours of gambling.(by my estimate).

Saito Hajime rolled 16 using 1d20+11.  Gambling tonight.
Saito Hajime rolled 31 using 1d20+13.  Bluff check(s) if needed.
Saito Hajime rolled 18 using 1d20+11.  Sense Motive Checks.
Saito Hajime rolled 21 using 1d20+13.  Sleight of hand.

Looks like I'm rusty, skilled, but rusty.

It wasn't morning when you arrived, you had already traveled for 6~8 hours beforehand because no one is crazy enough to travel at night. The mount you are riding could step on a hole and break a leg, not to mention send you flying crashing down.

In reply to GM (msg # 152):

Also, Woren, don't be afraid to treat me like any other party member in your posts. I'm still a minor character, not a lead role.

Yeah. He's like a serious version of Gally.

In reply to GM (msg # 154):

I need help with the reference(unless it was in game to another character)

I left under the impression magic just works so I left before the negative confirmation.
I'm going with being locked out by woren, not knocking(plus the wardrobe he put in front of the door.) As I wish to cause him as little discomfort as possible.

So I was on my own for lodgings and food last night.

Its starting to turn into a running theme.

I'll field this one.  I could have used disintegrate but I didn't as such suffocation has a short range and the kid was out of that range.  The reason why I didn't use that other spell is because it would have turned the kid to dust and it would have been obvious as well.  Not only that odds are good that would be an evil move where as suffocation can be deadly can easily just be released at will.  Woren's alignment is CN right now which I need to fix and as such I'm trying to stay away from more evil stuff.  As for Gally  well think of him like you a rouge but kinda stupid and also a complete fanboy of Woren.  As for locking you out we can just assume everyone had private rooms provided by the lord of this city so you are all set hope this helps.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:20, Mon 09 May 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 156):

Spoilsport

Huh?  Spoilsport how?

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 139):

You had you own luxury suite the whole time.


This message was last edited by the player at 19:59, Mon 09 May 2016.

Trust me it's not a normal thing in Woren's life let's just say things have been rough for him to say the least.

Yeah, which explains why he's had quite a few pity parties in private rooms already.

In reply to GM (msg # 161):

I was referencing myself.

And it could just as easily have applied to Woren since he does indeed do that ^{*points at picture above*} a lot in private rooms.

A blurb for Woren.

Woren a badass who can turn you into little tiny pieces with ease gets the short end of the stick and becomes depressed lol XD.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 164):

Well if sleep is what you want I am a doctor, I can prescribe potions and powders to make you sleep, in several levels of knocked out.

Saito, any input on your end?

This message was deleted by the player at 00:39, Tue 10 May 2016.

I meant any input on your end. A post and rolls describing what you're doing while the others are at the kitsune bridge district.

When you roll for gathering information you only do 1 roll, not a separate one for each topic.

In reply to GM (msg # 169):

So my 19 works on all 3 topics and I roll 1d4 for each topic?

or do I get all the topics covered in the 1 d4, cause that would be awesome. Better there were a lot of weasels that were shocked to see me and didn't believe the rumor that I was back in town then :D

Either-way Worren has a few hours to do things before I get my info, unless we hear a rumor right off the bat and clint rushes off.

it's 1 to 1 meaning you roll one diplomacy roll and one time roll.  May I also suggest you start including your times with your rolls like me.  Trust me I have made a lot of mistakes on this game but looking at the dice roller you got real damn lucky with your first roll.  However by not placing time's you can easily confuse people or make it seem like a different roll is the actual roll.  On a side note nice job with your roll :)

It should look like this fyi
18:45, Today: Saito Hajime rolled 32,3 using 1d20+13,1d4.  Diplomacy: gather Info.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:09, Tue 10 May 2016.

Hold Person needs line of sight. I thought it went without saying that the streets in the slums twist and turn.

Hmm figures oh well I was going to use a different spell but it would cause mass damage to everything like tempest hammer or Sirocco, suffocation won't work and I know my alignment will shift to just evil if I kill him.  GOD"S I want to do something but I can't FUCK must resit urge for evil.

It's ganna be a little hard to run AND cast the spell. You and he are using run after all.

Oh no it was worse much worse it would have been bad but I decided against it so I think I'll leave it at that for now.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:58, Tue 10 May 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 175):

ZMOG I've been playing Neutral in a party of good alignments.

Much apologizes. Less how to stop this mess, more how to end the crap. I'll fix that.

You're suppose to be neutral evil.

In reply to GM (msg # 177):

Si, not nearly enough eggshells broken as opposed to stomped.

o Worren, there is definitely something down there. Don't you know never chase the locals where even the locals don't go.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:28, Wed 11 May 2016.

YES! Saito did the "forehead rub" thing! He's officially part of the gang now.

(you'd be surprised how often Woren does that)

In reply to GM (msg # 180):

Does that or induces that behavoir in others, mine was a few cares short off slowly dragging my facepalm down really slowoy purubbing my face into ackward shapes.
do i know of this prophecy? Is it a tengu thing cause birds of prey and rodents? Is it a sign of time to take the city by force?

Saito sucker punches Woren. Dum dum duuuum

The plot thickens.

That may have been a very big mistake Saito is in way over his head against Woren.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 183):

Just because your base attack is 2.3 times my character level, while power attacking, and dealing none-lethal with a sword. Luckily pathfinder doesn't have those pesky get hurt for punching people rules.

A suggestion you gathered info right if you figured something out it might be smarter to tell Woren about it rather then you know randomly attacking the guy who got your freedom, is your boss, the leader of the team and a badass.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 185):

No, this isn't related to gather info.  Not in the least.

Believe it or not, he did it for your own good (or at least thought he was). He though Woren was having a nervous breakdown and going crazy (since he hasn't had experience in learning that Woren is always like this) so he thought it prudent to knock him out then take him to see treatment.

In reply to GM (msg # 187):

Screw treatment, he is chasing this kid full of hate, half killing himself in the process, getting luc knocked out, telling maiko and gengar to jump in the sewage. He is outta control and needs to sleep, and get his wounds checked out.

See, what I told ya, thinking of your best interests.

Still he did learn something useful out of all of this. The kid is almost as much at a disadvantage in these sewers as you are. Probably lost since he clearly doesn't know the layout (if he did he would've avoided the sadist from earlier). He must've entered it out of desperation and is now looking for a way out ASAP.

LOL he's trying to intimidate him X^'D

This message was deleted by the player at 23:41, Tue 17 May 2016.

Lets see if I have this all right:

1. Saito moves to edge of canal. Woren follows.

2. Saito drop smoke bomb and jump over the canal. Woren walks right over the edge and splashes down.

3. Saito ready action. Woren sheathes shield and weapon, swims and climbs up. Provokes Aoo and ready action.

4. Saito shoots Woren and moves away. Woren climbs up and draws weapon/shield.

In reply to GM (msg # 192):
It was my understanding.

Smoke bomb, splash, kick him while he tries to climb, run away before he can stab.

Yeah I guess.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 194):

Now saito is standing there and worren is issue a challange still?

Yup you ever hear the expression don't poke the bear you poked the bear.

__|  |~~|  |_____
     |~~|
_____|~~|_________
~~~~~~HH~~~~~~~~~~~~
_____~HH~__________
__  W|~~|
[]|  |~~|   _____
[]|  |~~|  |[][][]
[]| S|~~|  |[][][]
[]|  |~~|  |[][][]
[]|  |~~|  |[][][]

H is for Hydra, W is for Woren, S is for Saito, ~ is for sewage.

I think this would help:

In reply to GM (msg # 198):
He tries to climb up, saito kicks him twice, but woren can't finish climbing because woren is standing there?


If that's the case, Woren Swam back over in his last post AND climbed out, then got a (take a round to give yourself 10 feet to start running?) running start to jump across?

Saito has plenty of time to prepare for the jump, though how he reacts is dependent on if Woren has threatened him with bodily harm instead of just none-lethal.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:17, Wed 18 May 2016.

Woren is now beside you after climbing up.  But go ahead keep attacking him like an idiot see what happens.

Actually, he has a point. Woren tried to climb but couldn't due to Saito. So he swam back, climbed the ledge then jumped over and drew his weapons.

This gives Saito 2 extra rounds to do with as you please. But woren is not right next to Saito because Saito moved ↓↓↓ before.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:47, Wed 18 May 2016.

Sorry about that.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 202):

So the only I need to know now, is did woren still threaten me with actual violence?

What do you think?

In reply to GM (msg # 204):

I think he is a bull in a china shop that brings a sword to a fist fight, and has a few friends that are willing to step in if make the wrong moves.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 205):

Golden empire is Creating/Breeding monsters and monstrocities, Attacking neighboring countries, and fielding comparatively large armies?

Creating/Breeding monsters and monstrocities - No proof of that.

Attacking neighboring countries - Yes.

Fielding comparatively large armies - Oh yes.

_{Surprise surprise}

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 197):

Saito joins the headless chickens screaming worren was right, its the end of the world, the gods themselfs are disgusted enough to take action.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 209):

Question, whose soldiers are on the wall, this is probably very important.

The Fourstream's human soldiers.

EDIT: BTW this is the second time Woren has gone off to do a "I told you so" rant rather than to something heroic. Remember this image TD? ^^


Ahhhh, the bards always leave these parts out of their tales.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:23, Tue 24 May 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 211):

Ok, does finch have a weapon?

In reply to GM (msg # 211):

Well let's see here he's been stolen from, insulted, had his father insulted, chased a kid that always had an escape route no matter what, he feels like he will never get his money back, save the kid got nothing, was in essence lied to by the old women when she assured him he would get what was his back, fought a hydra, was in the sewers and is now having to deal with an assault I think it's  beyond understandable for him considering he's having a very bad day.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:50, Wed 25 May 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 213):

Week, but more importantly does that little sneak have a weapon, no one ever said cid gave me back mine.

I'm going to guess you have a weapon as I'm about to send you and Geneger to fetch the general. Or you can argue to just put Gneger on it your choice.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 215):

Actually Maiko might be the better choice, cause I don't think we want to open the gate so moving in the z dimension could be a component, especially on the return trip.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 216):

Wrong general. nvm

May I recommend you send only 1 person and have Luc conjure a mount for them so they don't take forever to get there?

I know Luc doesn't have the mount spell ready but you can use his bonded object ability that 1/day allows him to cast a spell he knows but doesn't have prepared.

Ah good call I'll post something to reflect that Saito your saying here time to see what you can do impress Woren.

Saito, you have your stuff back, Cid returned them.

In reply to GM (msg # 220):

ok but I still want a dagger if there is one lying around, they get siege weapons I can at=least get a dagger.

You have a wakizashi, why would you need a dagger?

In reply to GM (msg # 222):

Want, not need if I can't find a good place to jam a dagger, or a good place to throw one. I can't be called a rogue can I? it's more disposable  then my sword.

Knowledge Engineering skill can be used a lot in this situation. Just saying.

I'll wait until the map to post things here are the rolls.

01:11, Today: Woren Inkaku rolled 24 using 1d20+22. know engineering Luc.
01:11, Today: Woren Inkaku rolled 18 using 1d20+14. know engineering Woren.

Light ballista:    hardness of 5 and 50 HP; 10 speed
Standard Catapult: hardness of 5 and 50 HP; 0 speed
Assault bridges:   hardness of 0 and 160 HP; Width 10ft; Length 40ft
Escalade Ladders:  hardness of 10 and 80 HP; Width 10ft; Height 40ft
Corvus:            hardness of 5 and 10 HP per square; Width 10ft; Length 15ft
Rams:              hardness of 5 and 120 HP
Siege Tower:       hardness of 5 and 60/240/640 HP; 15 speed; soldier capacity: 5/20/50

Giant rock throwing thing: Hardiness ??? and ??? HP
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:41, Wed 25 May 2016.

Oh and also this let's see what we are dealing with.

11:54, Today: Woren Inkaku rolled 22 using 1d20+13. know local.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 227):

Siege towers have a mounted ballista, a 'open air' back, and ladders instead of stairs or a ramp?

@Woren
You're facing the usual lvl 3 Imperial soldiers (spearman, swordsmen, archers, wizards... Average AC is around 20, give or take, and HPs are around 35) although there could be some veterans (lvl 6 guys) among them. Like those huge armiger guys. Each siege engine has a lvl 6 commander with the rest of the units being lvl 3. The siege wizards are standing at 400ft distance along with the other siege engines. They are all lvl 6 and are casting metamagic Siege Spells (the usual 1/2 dmg to objects doesn't apply and they do double damage to objects).

@Saito
Yes, yes, yes.

In reply to GM (msg # 229):

So nice of them to give dex denying chokepoints, cid would have a field day at the top of one of those ladders, or worse if we can sneak him under the siege ram.

Well I'm sure Cid is doing something I don't have his sheet not that I need it, but I figured putting some dice rolls might help speed things along or at least I hope it does.  Like I said though Luc can command those wizards especially since under him they will become even stringer and able to start eliminating the enemy.  The way I figure it dropping their numbers is key to slowing them down and then when the siege stuff gets closer then I can switch off.  With some luck everything is in order and we can start this epic battle huh :).

Why'd you have Clint shoot only once?

Kinda forgot for a second it's -5 for two shots right not that it matters if he's attacking a person it's touch and I image getting the ladder (if it can be destroyed) will be easy to shoot as well.  An edit is in sorry about that.

Look at my previous posts. I listed the siege materials. A ladder has 80HP.

Also, don't forget that clint has a double barreled gun. Meaning he can shoot up to 4 times per round (albeit at an additional -4 penalty).

Ah good to know one last edit another couple of shots and I think it's just enough to break the ladder and it looks like Saito went which is good so we can keep things rolling.

...You do realize that ALL the towers probably have a 'moving citadel' unit in them, right?

Also, don't you think that was overkill? I mean 1 tower has only 60 HP.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:46, Thu 26 May 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 236):

Question, did I drop the guy in front of me, all the images are messing with my phone. I'm goign to assume I didn't.

You did. The sneak attack damage applied because there was a Kentonese defender on his other side and he was already damaged a little. It's also the reason why the attack worked in the first place (+2 atk from charge and +2 from flank).

Split the difference then 115 dmg so 60 leave 55 dmg so the question becomes what's best to take out with it I know the bridges that they have take out a bunch of them each has 10 per square they should be able to take out five of them.  Take out the one holding the ladder on our side effectively taking both out in one.  Unless you have a better idea.

You also forgot the extra +3 damage per spell. Suffice to say, you took out 2 of the 4 large towers. I just need you to tell me which 2.

The one docking near Luc, the one near you, the one near Saito or the one south of Saito.

EDIT: You already made your choice. You are shooting the towers this turn. Hopefully you'll give more thought in the next round.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:08, Thu 26 May 2016.

The one near Luc (they are squishy need to protect the mages)  and the one near me.  The way i figure it I take down those two I can keep them safe and when their numbers get reduced more I can move to the other section of the walls and start causing trouble their.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 241):

Updated, taking off sneak attack damage.

Question how many towers are left also I did not know what a corvus was  I looked it up.
Corvus: A corvus is a boarding device that features a hinged counterweight system for mounting a bridge vertically on a siege tower or a vehicle, with a hooked end to grab onto a target vehicle or structure. A corvus is usually 10 feet wide and 15 feet long. It has a hardness of 5 and 10 hit points per square. Using a corvus requires a DC 10 Profession (siege engineer) check as a full-round action; if the check fails, the corvus fails to catch on the target and must be reset (a full-round action). A corvus mounted on a vehicle can target another moving vehicle (see Vehicles). Doing so requires an opposed driving check to get the corvus into the correct position, which is within the length of the corvus and adjacent to the other vehicle. Once a corvus is attached, it takes a Strength check as a full-round action to dislodge the corvus. Alternatively, if the corvus is attached to a vehicle, either vehicle driver can make a driving check as a standard action to dislodge the corvus (a check that succeeds by 5 or more destroys the corvus). The base DC for either of these checks is 15, and the DC increases by 5 for every Small or Medium creature currently standing on the corvus. If a corvus is disengaged while creatures are standing on it, those creatures must make a DC 15 Reflex saving throw or fall. Succeeding at the saving throw allows them to move to the nearest area of safe ground, but such movement provokes attacks of opportunity. A corvus cannot be armored.

So if I destroy these do I essentially make it impossible for them to to get onto the walls using these towers?  I need to know this because their is going to be a switch in tactics if the answer is yes.

Well, they can always try and jump the distance.

There are 2 large towers left, 3 huge and 2 gargantuan.

Come to think of it, thanks to the assault bridges they can come pretty damn close.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:00, Thu 26 May 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 243):

Think of them like draw bridges, it will be like the draw bridge falling down into the moat and having to jump across onto the wall.

^ it should only be about a 7 to 2 foot gap.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:52, Thu 26 May 2016.

Well fuck suggestions I'm all ears here.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 246):

Half destroy the assault bridges(flaming spheres) let them break under the weight of the siege towers.

Clint seems to be able to destroy ladders from a long distance, me and maiko can get at the ballista on the towers when they get close.

You should try some kind of moral thingy especially on the people in the town. Walls only work so well I give them less then a half a hour, time for the militia to get atleast armed and maybe put traps in town.

The town is burning.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 247):

Their army is awfully focused on 1 side of the city.

Maybe it's a focusing strength there, maybe its a not so fake feint. How many troops should they have?

The head of this snake (and all its artilery) are seemingly exposed to the rear.

Well that's how sieges generally work. If you don't focus your strength on as fewer points as possible you'll just exhaust yourself banging your head against a wall.

As I said before, you roughly gauge 5,000 enemy troops, where as the kentonese are around 1,000.

Well I know what I'm doing next turn but I have a question of the insane kind.  If I cast flame sphere and then tempest hammer on the flame sphere which is in essence a giant tornado can I do this.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 250):

Due to spell oddities I might suggest syncrnized burning hands through the holes in the gate to create your backflow.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:44, Thu 26 May 2016.

I doubt it'll be that big but yes, the tempest hammer will do extra damage in it's entire affected area as if the entire area was under the effect of flaming sphere.

EDIT: BTW I don't have access to my computer right now so I can't update the map. I can continue the battle if you don't mind going without one.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:00, Thu 26 May 2016.

I don't mind small problem for some reason I can't access the site I normally use for info on spells and such as such I'm working off of limited info.  when I try I get nothing here http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/...lls/e/enlarge-person.

In reply to GM (msg # 252):

I think I have my immediate area visualized, if clint shoots down my ladder we should clean up my "point" in a moment.

Burning hands and flaming sphere are similar to their dnd counterparts.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 254):

 http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG...ls/burningHands.html

 http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG...s/flamingsphere.html

Ohh never mind it's back up sorry all we can keep going btw I'm thinking getting rid of the ram is a good idea so I'm going to focus on it with my next spell http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/...pells/tempest-hammer

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 256):

Oh, its call lighting but wind, not a persistant vortex.


Litterally, i'd say the spell wording don't interact, but reasonably it makes sense.

Try it with glitterdust.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:11, Thu 26 May 2016.

Well their lies the question if I use this http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG.../spells/sirocco.html in combo with glitter dust would the wind from it cause it to affect more people.  Also I plan of casting the spell and then falling back to a safer area with Luc to ensure his safety which should be fine right?

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 258):

I'd rather pair that for a instant kill effect on some form of siege or hot spot if tempest hammer is still in effect, the pair would probably deal double damage each to a construct, and use the higher dc to avoid getting knocked away +3.

Glitter dust isn't as broken as dnd, but it is still a viable smokescreen. I'd save it to block a tight space with blinded people running into each other, or create a escape opportunity)


Magic combos aside, I can't clear that southern tower by myself and luc had 0(skilled) defenders repelling ladders last I checked. And I'm pretty sure we don't want Malakia: Waren was RIGHT! deathargh to die if he is still alive. I think he was on the other side of the wall.

Clint and luc probably both need to be pulled back and treated(well clint hasn't really taken any previous damage) maybe have someone cast protection from arrows in the mage group.


Personally I say Once we get the Kitsune, we should let them in the front gate, and use stinking cloud and just mow them down with ranged and slaughter the ones that get to the kitsune line(maybe pikemen set against charge).

half moon around the stinking-cloud of fail, and just kill them enmass.


Dispel magic may be able to clear the acid on the gate(dm opinion)

Dispel magic can also fizzle any fireballs the enemies have left.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 259):

suggestions Off?

Our wizards are a sitting duck, that globe of invulnerability paid off, but we should probably keep them alive, particularly since there may be a tomorrow.

Yes on the acid (because it's a continuous effect that lasts several rounds, although the one on the gate ended), and no on the fireballs because they are an instantaneous effect.

I think their are six bridges right?  I figured having six fire things causing continually damage is good.  It will sever many things causing damage to the bridge the ladder the people and the ram this should work I hope at least.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 262):

Your right, as a medium range spell it can't counter spell at longer ranges, but it was a thought.

It was a decent idea and the idea  with the fireballs with the bridges were good as well.  With luck this I did everything all right and this will work.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 264):

The first bit, now that the mages are done, and we negated their 'surprise' attack, its a good old fashion siege once we get all the attackers off the wall.

Time to regroup and re-organize.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 255):

On question, I thought we were on the southern wall, starting heading south, is that towards malakai?


Edit, they are off to my right, phone can't handle cacheing every imagine at once.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:42, Sat 28 May 2016.

Luc was in the northern section;
Woren and co were in the central section (the one nearest to the gate)
Saito was on the southern section.
Malakai was on the part of the wall even farther south (↓ of Saito).

Clint and Malakai ran away from their respective wall sections and are now in the area of the city adjacent to Saito's section of the wall. Meaning if you, Saito, were to jump/climb down 40ft you'd be in the same area as Clint and Malakai on the picture.

In reply to GM (msg # 267):

Saito Hajime rolled 33 using 1d20+13.  perception malakia's men.


-5 distracted, -5 50feet, -5 terrible conditions. 33-15 = 18
Compare to: Hear the details of a whispered conversation DC 15?
This message was last edited by the player at 22:49, Sat 28 May 2016.

I would think it would be easy to hear the shooting also I'm going off on a limb and assuming Clint says something or gives a signal or something to let Woren know and from there you can just follow Woren.  Or at least thats what I think but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 269):
If we have to wait for clint, that's another round we have to wait to react to it.

terrible conditions, siege engines pounding all around.
distracted, I'm busy getting shot at and trying to aim a shot.
50 foot distance, it's a 40 foot drop + some change sideways.

massive penalties to perception.

Sorry for the delay guys. The game will pick up at full steam tonight.

In reply to GM (msg # 271):

relax, take your time. Give Saito a chance to pay back that cross dressing noble, and since I'm under no obligations to worren, I can leave this battle with a free conscience.

This is what I'm going for. http://i113.photobucket.com/al...Ring/Arrow-storm.jpg
This message was last edited by the player at 00:41, Tue 31 May 2016.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 272):

In reply to GM (msg # 852):

What was I supposed to do,

A, Pour a cup of tea and suggest they look over the edge after a minute.
B, Bark drill Sgt orders to soldiers in combat
C, Roll a lie roll for the truth
D, Take someone and throw them off the side
E, Point and Laugh

Ya, probably would have gotten a better reaction laughing at Lord Malakia bleeding all over the place. It's noisy the only way to be heard is by shouting anyways.

Or F: Do the same thing you did but with a diplomacy roll.
or G: Don't get involved with leading. You're a rogue, you're suppose to be anti-authority to begin with.

In reply to GM (msg # 274):

No, but I'm developing a deep-seated hatred of crowds.

What is the difficulty of moving along the inward battlement, ↙,↓,↓,↓,↓

Just shove them aside. Moving through a square occupied by an ally carries no penalties (thougfh you can run or charge through one) but you can't occupy the same square as an ally.

The defenders on the wall where you are and moving south (those who aren't shooting at the invaders below) to counter the enemies that are climbing up the wall on ladders in the southern section. They are as packed as sardines on the wall where the forces are meeting so you won't be able to get in close. You best bet is to climb down off the wall (like Clint, Woren Maiko and Luc did), then climb back up at the next section. CLint just cleared the enemies clogging the stairs but that won't last for long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuEEiLOTfs4

So I have a very insane thought and I could use some feedback Luc has scrolls of well this http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/...party-spells/typhoon.  If I use it well it will do a little more then slow them down but I'm hoping he can cast it in safety maybe just below the stairs poking his head out or something.  I'm also thinking of either using common monster 3 on the brigades not claimed/ slowed down or maybe fireball/scorching ray just something to set them on fire cause the enemy to slow thought?

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 277):

It's not insane, and with that kind of range, you could cast it from behind the wall, mostly at the sky.

The insane part is getting it close enough to do damage, without completely decimating the defenders and causeing more wall damage.

~ 500 feet is 1/30th of the miminium spell radius.  A tornado well placed would decimate their entire long range siege department, and be imo would cause a massive moral penalty just from wind burn.

lv 17/18th to get 9th level spells = 17 minium caster level, so minimum radius unless he can shrink it as if cast at a lower caster level, is 17/5 = 3.4 Miles
This message was last edited by the player at 01:57, Tue 31 May 2016.

Hmm not bad wanna know the even more crazy part he has seven of those and is versed in wind magic so using it should be easy. A mile is over 5,000 ft I doubt hey are that far.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:00, Tue 31 May 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 279):

I'm saying it's like using the dropping the greatwall of china to divide north and south korea.


precision aiming something that big without catching the city too will be the trick. The question is will it drag the city down with it.

Summon monster III, will be hard to use, as it will be easily swarmed over in this scale of combat, and it also can summon lower forms in larger numbers 1d3+1 Summon monster I.

Given the nature of the conflict. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestia...rules#TOC-Trample-Ex- Or something that enables you to perform a action like a small flier or aquatic threat might be the best usage, will provide a 1 round distraction if the mages need one.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:07, Tue 31 May 2016.

Cross your fingers dude let's hope this works right in the middle on the enemy near their siege engines as well this will be interesting.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 281):

Range 1 mile/5 levels
Area radius of 1 mile/5 levels

I guess if he just casts it at maximum range, we could be safe as the effect will roughly stop in front of him, Or we could go with Woren's literal interpretation.

I mean it, I am so outta here.

I think any spell can be focused or reduced and Luc is well versed in wind magic so I'm going to guess he can cause it to be smaller.  Gotta wonder if the gm saw this coming I doubt it.

As I said at the beginning of the siege, the enemy's rear guard is 450ft away from the walls. Meaning the entire army is pretty darn close to the city.

Also, WOren isn't suppose to, strictly speaking, KNOW about those scrolls. Luc hasn't told anyone about them. And finally, Luc can't cast a new spell while he's using concentration to keep an existing one in place. Same goes with the mages...nvm I just checked both spells on srd20. Nether tempest hammer nor flaming sphere need a concentration check in order to keep going. Their duration is self-sufficient.

On a side note, spells cast from scrolls don't use the mage's modifiers (or non-mage if the character is casting it using the Use magic device skill) nor is it subject to any other of his abilities (unless he has certain feats, such as Scroll Metamagic, Scroll mastery, Cypher Magic, Scroll-Slinger, ect...or certain wonderous items (like mnemonic vestment) nether of which Luc has). Imagine a scroll like a box where some cook put soup in it then close the lid. When someone casts a spell from a scroll that's the same as opening the lid from the box and serving that soup to someone. It's not the caster's soup, he didn't cook it, he's just serving it which is why he has no control over the flavor of the soup.

EDIT: You can use his staff though. It's useful. It can cast Weather Control. Or you could combine Typhoon/Weather control with Control Winds AFTER you cast ether of those.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:35, Tue 31 May 2016.

So he has to use his staff first for weather control then control winds and then typhoon in order to make it so he can not only control how big it is but how fast it grows.  I looked it up and he can speed things up According to control winds for every three levels a mage has he can increase the winds by one level.  Assuming we use his level while using this staff that would be four levels he can increase it by.  Plus I just told him to do something crazy and well this is crazy.  I put in an edit that he uses all three of these things in whatever sequence needs to be one it might take a bit but right now desperate times call for desperate measures.

Even if you don't want to have Luc use typhoon using this http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG...ls/controlWinds.html and he get's it to really strong winds http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamema.../environment/weather.  -8 to siege engines and then get it up one more it becomes impossible. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/...ls/c/control-weather then he uses this we are in winter it could cause a blizzard with a ton of wind in a central location good lord I would not really need typhoon this would cause tremendous damage and slow them down a ton.  or at least I think so.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 286):

Not sure if early spring or late winter.
Note, shape winds can easily shut down the entire army with a windstorm, which in my opinion would knock over the remaining towers and trebutches.

Control weather is 100% going to affect the town.

Well one last edit is up to make things clear he uses control winds on the enemy as for the summoned monsters anything that can fly might be best if their is no space for ground things.  I'll leave that up to the gm though as that might be best.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 287):

The most dastardly combo I've come up with is control winds, to blow outward from the city, and then control weather to create a indescriminante hail storm, using the winds to shield fourstreams by blow most of the hail out of the city.

Minimizing our damage, and giving them bruises and potentially muddy or icy terrain.

I love this. It's like watching you guys figure out how to perform brain surgery with a sledge hammer. Because that's what a tornado is, a blunt instrument.

Lets say you use Control Weather to cast a hurricane/tornado. That causes the spell effect to originate from the user (Luc) in a 2 mile radius. And it's hard to be very accurate with it.
BTW it's Late winter.

Control Winds only affects the weather within 750~1000ft at most, so those in the immediate area may be shielded from the worst of the storm, but the rest of the city won't.

And finally we have the issue with the nature of winds itself. It's not like if a typhoon has an area of effect of 3 miles that at 3 miles + 5 ft all the effects instantly stop.
(imagine the left side is the tornado and the right side is 5ft beyond the spell's affected area)


The intensity of winds diminish by one step each range increment (Tornado > Hurricane > Windstorm > Severe > Strong > Moderate > Light), Meaning if you launch a tornado in the rear of the enemy forces then you will experience hurricane winds and windstorms in the rest of the city, which BTW would work to the benefit of the enemy since ranged attacks will be impossible, and defenders on the wall rely on ranged attacks to keep the enemy away a lot more than then invaders rely on ranged attacks in order to get through.

Remember the link to the LOTR siege I posted? Imagine if the humans couldn't shoot down at the orcs from atop the wall.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:31, Tue 31 May 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 290):

I wasn't refering to the tornado, I was refering to the listed effects of control wind, one causes straight lying winds, one causes wind to beat down and outward, another simplly creates a outward rotating wall(s) of wind.

Given the nature of the spell, using it to push the hail out of the city or cause it to loose most of its momentum before it hits anything is probably within reason.

Thus luc could probably center a zone around the city with control winds that doesn't get affected by control weather with control winds.

No tornado funnel required.

Worren the one that wants a tornado.

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 275):

Second look, since it has a fixed height, he could litterally use it to create a shield of wind above a large portion of the city.

Well then how about this instead it has more control http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/.../p/path-of-the-winds.  Not only that it causes a wind wall.  The problem I'm having is time we need time and to stop them so I need something extreme or we lose simple as that.

Edit: either that or I need a serious suggestion here because I'm grasping at straws.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:13, Tue 31 May 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 293):

Mud would be a major hassel to them, the rivers have already been stated to be full from winter melt, a wide area rainstorm would probably be the least destructive way to slow them to a crawl.

Mud costs 2 movements, river surge may interact with their bridges, floating them away, or weaking the earth under them.

Hmm that's not a bad idea the gm has stated that the weather has been warm if I use control weather for a rain storm (with the warm weather this should be possible)  It would cause a big rainstorm and slow them down and this would go from Gondor to Helms Deep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXC-jJhFaUI.  Thoughts gm I could use some input here.

Oh, well that would certainly work. A lot in fact. The moat/stream would increase (meaning they'd need bigger assault bridges, and that would take them at least a few hours).
Table: Siege Engine Assembly
Engine Size   Time Required   Workers Required
Small         1 minute        1
Medium        10 minutes      2
Large         1 hour          4
Huge          2 hours         6
Gargantuan    4 hours         8
Colossal      8 hours         12

But be that as it may, I think both of you are missing the larger implication such a largescale spell might cause. Remember, in this world magic is rare and weak and spells above level 6 are considered beyond the capabilities of mortals. The appearance of such a spell would attract a lot of attention (I assume some of it undue) to on otherwise unremarkable battle in the course of a war. It could attract Oreimo's personal attention (and lets face it, you're not ready to face him yet), it could be a sign that greater forces are at play, people could interpret it as a god trying to start a new following in this world (if you recall, the Stoneaxian leader, that obnoxious dwarf, is among the very few clerics left in the world and by far the most powerful. He can cast spells beyond lvl 6 but only because they are granted to him by the gods, as he explains, which is why he's the undisputed political and spiritual leader of one of the most powerful countries in the known world).

In terms of military power the Alliance States used to be ranked like this:
1. Stoneaxe (number 1 by far. No one among the Alliance disputes that fact)
2~3. Tolan and Kento. It's not clear who's 2nd and 3rd. If ether of them were stronger than the other then it wouldn't be by a big margin. But Tolan was generally considered the more reliable option because they didn't have the internal instability of Kento (or if they did then at least they didn't let it affect their foreign policy).
4. Merdrarel They pack more magic than any other Alliance state, but their army is still too small.
5. Yuzna They don't actually have an army (I'm not counting their city watch as an army). When they do go into battle the vast majority of their forces consists of mercenaries, meaning the strength of their military might is equivalent to the depth of their pockets (and they do have deep pocket). The problem is that hiring mercenaries takes time. This delay in deployment (and questionable dedication of the mercenaries. I mean who's to say they wouldn't turn tail and run the moment things go bad? A patriot fights and would gives for his country, but a mercenary fights for gold and would never give his life for it. Risk it, yes, but never give it.) is why the other Alliance countries consider Yuzna unreliable.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.  Then how the fuck am I supposed to win this huh 1,000 vs 5,000 Woren is one man and he can only do so much.  Here are his spells I have no idea I literately have NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT TO DO!!!!
Level 0     4 spells per day    - bonus    DC 17 (10 + level + ability)
Prepared:
-Detect Magic
-Ghost Sound
-Prestidigitation
-Breeze

Level 1     4 spells per day    2 bonus    DC 18 (10 + level + ability)
Prepared:
-Foe's measure
-Protection from evil/chaos
-Shield
-Mage armor,
-Mirror image
-Gentle Breeze

Level 2     4 spells per day    2 bonus    DC 19 (10 + level + ability)
Prepared:
-Glitterdust
-Web
-True casting
-Fog cloud
-Gust of wind
-Gusting Sphere

Level 3     4 spells per day    2 bonus    DC 20 (10 + level + ability)
Prepared:
-Dispel magic
-Invisibility sphere
-Protection from energy
-Haste
-Air geyser
-Ablative Barrier

Level 4     3 spells per day    1 bonus    DC 21 (10 + level + ability)
Prepared:
-Hurricane blast
-Lesser Globe of Invulnerability
-Stoneskin
-Gale Scythe

Level 5     3 spells per day    1 bonus    DC 22 (10 + level + ability)
Prepared:
-Dismissal
-Suffocation
-Fickle winds
-Tempest hammer

Level 6     2 spells per day    1 bonus    DC 23 (10 + level + ability)
Prepared:
-Sirocco
-Path of the Winds
-Disintegrate

Sigh ok how about this Luc does something whatever I got nothing this turn Luc is in your control gm because I GOT NOTHING!!!!

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 297):

Use Luc to counter their advantages, and use your super hero lackies, to push back where the need is greatest, and start organzing things. One of your assets is bleeding to death, assuming your sword didn't heal him, Malakia.

clint's kill count alone just went from 20 some odd to 34 some odd.

Like I sais earlier, consider letting them in the gate and creating a kill zone, if they all rush into a stinking cloud, they will practically be sitting ducks.

As the dm said about packed like sardines, in combat esp on this scale, soldiers can be horrible lemmings, pushing where they  expect or think there is a advantage because they can't see the whole situation.

And if someone yells at you, that your general is down there under attack, atleast 3 of those lemmings will loook.

Controling this is more about shaping the choas.

That might work I'm just frustrated that's all I'm sorry about this it sucks not having a clue what's best.  It causes me to second guess myself.  Tell you what I told Luc to do something crazy what that is, is up for Luc to decide so having the gm choose his spell actually makes sense.  Summon monster is still a good idea we need to secure the walls before we can try and create a kill zone regardless however.  Because if we don't then letting them in through their would do us no good.  They would use the walls to get in behind us and then flank us and attack on both sides so right now the walls need to be focused on and then we can go from their.

n reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 300):

That would be why I split to tackle a different problem area. I'm crippled because I am missing 1 feat to deal with crowds, and I have another 4 feats tied up in poison of which I have none, though I know worren got juicy ones like dragons bile.

How do you know that?  I have these not exactly sure if you can reach into my bag and get these or if they will help you but if you can go ahead.
Vile of Dragon Bile     1
Vile of Scorpion venom  4

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 302):

It would take me a hour playing mad scientist to use them to any good effect now anyways.

I grumbled about wanting a dagger and poisons before we climbed the wall and you kind snorted at me and told me fight or die now.

With dragon bile, a hour, and a good sneak around their army in the rain, I might be able to take down their leadership but there no time for that now.

Well you know big battle and all that stuff happens ok which one of these bridges is causing this mass inflow of enemies?  Since using a spell above level six is out of the question because then the emperor himself will get involved and he will one hit kill me I just know i.  How about air gyster instead right on the nudge it would bring water as well and possible cause the bridge to topple over.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 304):

Close range spell, would probably  require looking over the wall to cast imo.

Wizards run on batteries, fighters run on hit points.

Air geyser would probably be a ton more effective against armingers or whatever later.

As for the bridge it would probably be "video of dock with dynamite underneath" ish.

Focus on clearing the wall, don't use the wizards every round.

Fair enough gm would you mind auto battling Luc for one round please?  I know you said you would have a person act in accordance to their fighting style and such so this might be best thanks.

Did you consider the Path of the Winds spell? There's your scalpel based windstorm.

Infomercial voice:
With this nifty handy-dandy spell you can send the enemies on the wall flying back where they came from.

But wait, that's not all! In the offer we'll throw in Luc's School Understanding (Wind) and Potent Magic exploit for the low low price of just 1 exploit point so you can just tip over that pesky enemy siege tower.

Did I say siege tower? I meant to say siege towerS! This spell's direction can be change 1 per turn as a move action by up to 45 degrees, yes you heard right, not 10, not 20, but up to 45 degrees! blowing away not only the enemies and enemy tower in the new destination but also every enemy along the way, WOW!!! You'll just be sweeping your worries away. ^{Disclaimer: the spell affects all targets in the area of effect including allies so exercise caution where you aim that thing}

But wait, that's not all!! YOU will not be affected by the spell! Watch as you stroll around while your enemies flutter away like leaves in the wind. Is there anything else that can make you feel like a god? How about the ability to do this INDEFINITELY? Yes, you heard right, this spell comes with an indefinite duration ^{Disclaimer: the spell is indefinite only for as long as Luc maintains concentration}

But wait, we haven't even gotten to the best part yet!!! If you cast this spell now we'll also throw in not one but TWO Wind Wall spells in the package completely for free! You heard right, you get 3 spells for the price of 1! Blast your enemies away while simultaneously keeping safe and keeping your loved ones safe!

Life doesn't get any better than this so don't wait, read the letters at the bottom of the screen and cast this spell, NOW!
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:32, Tue 31 May 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 295):

/shrug mobile windwall, needs glass shard to be a scythe.

So now I need to know this does Luc have the shot?  If so how many people will be affected once I know this I can can figure out how best to take my next turn.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 309):

1 target, however the target can be large.

Dm had me thinking the arminger was some kind of mecha construct.

Gusting sphere could be good here depending on how dm resolves bulrushes against tower shields.

Glitter dust is probably going to be best here. Blind wizards and blind armingers and blind archers. Maybe next round the other group will be close enough to hit both.

If tower shield blocks LoE geyser needs to have a angle to get him.

Blinded

The creature cannot see. It takes a –2 penalty to Armor Class, loses its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), and takes a –4 penalty on most Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks and on opposed Perception skill checks. All checks and activities that rely on vision (such as reading and Perception checks based on sight) automatically fail. All opponents are considered to have total concealment (50% miss chance) against the blinded character. Blind creatures must make a DC 10 Acrobatics skill check to move faster than half speed. Creatures that fail this check fall prone. Characters who remain blinded for a long time grow accustomed to these drawbacks and can overcome some of them.

He will affect 13 enemies + Tower + ballista + the guy on the tower shooting the ballista.

EDIT: ninja'd. The above written explanation refers to path of winds.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:49, Wed 01 June 2016.

Well I hope it can get the mage or at least the spearman near Maiko to open a line for her if not well trips for days either way.  Forgot about mages they cast a spell to help them maybe stink cloud or scorching ray.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:28, Wed 01 June 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 312):

I don't think the mages followed luc, he seemed to be on top of a building,

In reply to Saito Hajime (msg # 313):

Question, when Clint uses scatter shot, it acts a cone that rolls attack rolls.

Would concealment incur the standard miss chance or would it just shot gun spray as normal since I'm not sure how much aiming he does.

That I don't know but I know the mages are behind which is why I said for them to cast a spell to either kill the people going for the gate or slow them down.  Also I already went over this with the gm but I'm using an ability of Luc to merge two spells I do this by lowering one spell and then raising another.  I'm doing path of winds and air geyser.  My hopes are that by doing this I can effect even more people and have a ton of them fly up into the air and then out of the castle to the ground below where they will go splat.  I'm also not sure how many d20 to roll for his next scatter I'm guessing 16 for the foot soldiers that are right in front of him but I much rather make sure and then I can take it from there to help the gm.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 315):

Well if he mixes them, anyone knocked up is going to be counted as flying medium creatures for path of winds, which entirely changes how effective the spell is, physics of trajectory and speed of impact aside.


Right now that large scorpion venom is looking sweet, applying it to 10+ soldiers in all that armor is looking really nice. Half tempted to go into to town and pillage some inhaled poisons.

Actually since the town is doomed, why am I not pillaging?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:56, Thu 02 June 2016.

To answer your questions:
No, the mages didn't follow Luc. Check out the top left corner of the map I posted in an earlier post IC


No concealment doesn't affect scatter shot, and yes it fires in a cone. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipm...Firearm-Descriptions


Path of wind blows horizontally →
Air Geyser blows only vertically ↑
Combine the two and you get a spell that blows enemies away ↗
Quite literally like this


And no, nothing is physically stopping you (yet) from abandoning the fight and go pillaging. But as Woren has time and again learned this lesson, every action you take may have broader consequences down the road. Take the ogre thug in Kuskus for example. Woren dismissed him at the time (even though he was no match for him and his party) simply because he was too tired from the previous struggle with the crime syndicate to be bothered with that lowlife. If he hadn't done that then maybe he wouldn't be having the problems he is currently having with Kuskus and the rise of the new crime wave.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:44, Thu 02 June 2016.

In reply to GM (msg # 317):

My suggestion is to instead of moving and shooting, move to a better position to shoot then sweep them next round with clint.

Maiko practically knocked down the entire southern row of soldiers and ?you? Cast glitter dust, so hopfully that will cause more mayhem.

Not sure but smart might be letting clint get right up in their faces for that touch attack goodness, he seems to have a lots less ammo then he had a while ago.

If your waiting on me i feinted, unless worren tells me otherwise.

Good to know this should work well I still don't know how many dice to roll fro Clint here this is a guess.  Also technically you control yourself Saito so you do you, but like the gm said everything you do has an effect later on not the least of which would be pissing Woren off more who you have already pissed off on several occasions.  Regardless I hope this clears everything up but if not let me know and I can fix anything that needs to be fixed.

06:02, Today: Woren Inkaku rolled 145 using 16d20 with rolls of 7,12,10,4,10,2,8,12,10,8,18,10,3,3,14,14. spray fire.

Ok this image I found is badass and I had to share it lol XD.


Edit: this is better now you can actually see it.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:48, Sat 04 June 2016.

And surprisingly accurate too.

BTW I'm about to post, just finishing up Luc's flavor text and the surprise at the end.

In reply to GM (msg # 321):

wonder if luc could use a bull rush from a gusting sphere sideways to hit a target.

--> Target

Then since it's a wind ball, use the wind to resolve a successful bullrush like so

 _^
 |
 |
Target


Sphere of upwardly gusting winds

I'll need a concentration check for Luc each round.

Oh sorry about that what's the dc of that the spell dc I'm guessing?  Also I think my hp is wrong I could be doing the math wrong so if so sorry but according to my calculations.  72 hp +8 80 -19= 61 which is right but if I took half damage from that one spell that did 10 (which I did) I should have taken 5 so I think it should be five higher plus the 10 hp I just recovered.  so it should be76 I think if I'm wrong it's 71 obviously.  Again I could be reading this wrong and I realize it's only 5 hp but every bit helps in a battle like this.  Also here is the roll again sorry for the trouble.

05:48, Today: Woren Inkaku rolled 23 using 1d20+19. luc concentration .

AH OH CRAP I LOOKED OVER MY POST I NEVER PUT IN THE ROLLS THAT EXPLAINS IT HERE THEY ARE PROOF I DID IT SORRY UGH DAMN I"M STUPID.

23:15, Tue 31 May: Woren Inkaku rolled 21 using 1d20+14. reflex.
23:15, Tue 31 May: Woren Inkaku rolled 25 using 1d20+9. reflex.


Edit: oh the things I find oddly enough all these images are great considering all the tales being told of Woren.


This message was last edited by the player at 10:57, Sat 04 June 2016.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 325):

Yesterday: Saito Hajime rolled 19 using 1d20+10 Knowledge Local.  None combat goal to aid fight, that even a criminal could help with.


We dicussed using weather to flood the riverMoat, however a large portion of the river also flows through the city roughly dividing the districts(?). Is there some way to drain the city portions of the river, more specifically to keep the river from coming IN to the city's canal/riversbeds. Thus diverting the flow that would normally run through the city, against the walls and around the city essentially flooding the moat(s).

A civil engineering feat, like giant sluice gates behind the wall that fall down and act and mostly seal off the flow, allowing to the maintenance or construction of the current river ways pathways.


http://ceephotos.karcor.com/wo...ate-Ann-Arbor-MI.jpg

Yes, it's possible (the city has floodgates). But you'd need a successful knowledge engineering check to figure out how to operate them.

In reply to GM (msg # 327):

I'm sure there is somebody whose job it is to work them, possibly old or fat or both.
Real question is can I act on that knowledge with that check.

I'm sure there normally is someone. ^{The operative word here being 'normally'}

Oh I noticed you put my heal as 0 I should have one left just so you know because it went from 2 to zero when I used it.  Sorry if this comes off as hmm I guess jerky is the best word but I much rather you make sure because you never know if I'll need that (because odds are good I will).

Mmmmmm^mmm, jerky...


I'm sorry, I zoned out. You were saying?
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:28, Sun 05 June 2016.

Ha ha I guess I was saying that I didn't want to come off as a jerk an A-hole as someone who's trying to question you more so saying how I want to make sure I have everything I can in order to sway the battle in my way.  On a side note I hope everything is in order I know I put a few things in their.  Like how Luc will fall back if his spell is broken or can't be used to knock the other towers down.  However using disintegrate is well within his abilities plus gaining temp hp is the best I can do that's non-healing in order to keep him going.  If their is anything out of order let me know and I can fix it but I think with the big guy dead(which he should be) we can advance the battle because odds are good these normal guys seeing Woren and the others make short work of them will make them run away.
Tower shield
Benefit: In most situations, a tower shield provides the indicated shield bonus to your Armor Class. As a standard action, however, you can use a tower shield to grant you total cover until the beginning of your next turn. When using a tower shield in this way, you must choose one edge of your space. That edge is treated as a solid wall for attacks targeting you only. You gain total cover for attacks that pass through this edge and no cover for attacks that do not pass through this edge (see Combat). The shield does not, however, provide cover against targeted spells; a spellcaster can cast a spell on you by targeting the shield you are holding. You cannot bash with a tower shield, nor can you use your shield hand for anything else.

When employing a tower shield in combat, you take a –2 penalty on attack rolls because of the shield's encumbrance.

No, he's not. The armiger is still alive and kicking.

The heal thing was a typo. I'm making the post now. You good with no tactical map? If no then it'll take a while longer.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:25, Sun 05 June 2016.

Yeah I'm good.

In reply to Woren Inkaku (msg # 334):

Hmm, probably prone now, even if i'm flanking +2, that's -4 for being prone.

Trust me this guy is dead one way or the other I covered my bases just in case.  A tower shield can only protect one area the area he faces the shield.  As such him being shot by Clint will kill him and even if it doesn't all make has to do is move to the side of him put him in the dirt and then he's done.  Now comes the planing process and  figuring out if we can maybe do some healing even if it's just a little every bit helps.

He was facing ←
Clint used a move action to clear the gun and a standard to attack from →

Yes he was but he shouldn't be now.  And even if this is an error I covered my bases by having Maiko put him on his ass and then punch until dead.  So we should be able to get on with the plan of defending the city.



Edit also so it's clear the five foot step Clint took was this way ↖
This message was last edited by the player at 01:49, Mon 06 June 2016.

Poor clint, Woren just provoking all those AoOs and leaving him to deal with 3 guys at half health, with a overheated gun.