Here will be all discussion relevant TO the game but not IN game including:

Rules questions
General Game discussion
Scheduling/notifications/etc.

In reply to GM (msg # 1):

To start with, I think we're all wrestling to get the hang of this play-by-post timing (I know I am).

Also, Alveris is out for a little while on vacation, so there's that.

In reply to GM (msg # 2):

When somebody who is not the GM says something, do we have to wait for a GM post to "confirm" that those events happened before another character replies?
This message was last edited by the player at 13:08, Thu 06 June 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 3):

Also, Matt seems to be controlling several NPCs in addition to his own character (Puck, Oberon, etc.).  Is this acceptable, and if so, do we have to clear such sub-characters with you?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 4):

This is my first time doing the play-by-post so for now I'm just going to let things roll and see how it goes.  May need to refine the methodology later but for now:

1) Use your best judgement on whether or not the GM needs to confirm.  If you want to do something like wander somewhere in the Sub out of combat, unless you have a reason to think I would stop you (locked door, captain's quarters) go ahead and do it.  Similarly in combat, you can generally summarize results of your roll (miss, hit, kill, etc).

If you go somewhere you've never been, it's a good idea to let the GM describe what's there before doing anything else.

Mostly, try to be fair and don't do anything stupid. I can always rein in the control later if needed.

2) Control of NPCs: That sort of thing is fine for background and very simple stuff (if you want a Gnomish sailor to set up a one-liner for you, that's fine).  Again, I'll trust y'all to be fair and make changes later if need be.

As a guideline, don't have NPCs do anything that would really affect gameplay unless I say so, and check with me if you think an NPC should show up in a scene or do something significant.  If you want a sailor to get a drink for you, fine, who cares.  If you want him to steal secrets for you, that's gotta be roleplayed, rolled for and okayed by me.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 4):

The cool part about playing this sort of campaign is you can really get into the exposition that lends itself to reading and participating in good role playing. I like the way Jon put it.

Adding flavor like having Puck knock me around a bit pre campaign because he's my enemy and a dick? Of course the GM's going to love that.

The idea in a lot of ways is to develop characters and interactions that don't affect gameplay but flesh out your character. This is where when you play in person you lose a lot of subtext because you're 5 dice happy guys at a table.

Write the dialogue of the shopkeep. Pontificate about Evlish orgies. You get the chance to tell your character's whole story- kick it out.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 6):

All:  Don't forget to roll your Wild Die (d6) as well whenever you make a skill or combat roll.

For the uninitiated (or those who have forgotten), Wild Card characters (all PCs are Wild Cards) you roll a d6 Wild Die "alongside" your regular skill or combat rolls.  You don't add the Wild Die to your roll, you take it as an 'alternative' in that you can choose either the result of your skill die or the result of the Wild Die.

Both regular skill dice and the Wild Die can 'explode' (re-roll and add result if you roll the max die value).

If you roll a '1' on both the skill die and the Wild Die, bad things will happen to you.

In reply to GM (msg # 7):

Additionally, you can always use the PM Private Message function to talk to the GM if you don't want anyone else to see what you're saying.

In reply to GM (msg # 8):

I haven't forgotten about you all. Jon and I are going back in forth in PMs.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 9):

What die settings do we want to use for this, I saw no mention of the savage worlds system.

In reply to James (msg # 10):

Using standard Savage Worlds.

The die roller will let you roll 2 dice without adding them (regular and d6 Wild Die).  I'm not sure how well it does the 'explode-and-reroll'.

In reply to GM (msg # 11):

As an additional note concerning how much freedom you have to write cause-and-effect.

Right now, Alveris is unconscious.  We did all relevant rolls for those effects via PM.  In such a situation, you can write the details of how you regain consciousness and what you do, but only once the GM approves that you CAN indeed regain consciousness.

In short, you can write the details once approved for an action like that.

In reply to James (msg # 10):

It appears from my last roll that the settings:

Manual: dX, D6
Reroll max checked
Record both dice checked


Seemed to explode the die nicely

In reply to James (msg # 13):

In combat or other initiative-scenarios, it's ok to PM me and can queue up an order and I'll have it go off on your behalf when your turn comes up.  However, you're under no obligation to do that if you want to see how things turn out first.

In reply to GM (msg # 14):

Also, Savage Worlds has a non-lethal damage system if you choose to use it.

If you are using an appropriate weapon (fists, club, pillow, dildo, flat of sword, etc) you can choose to cause non-lethal damage.  Instead of death, the NPC is knocked out.

In reply to GM (msg # 15):

WAIT!  There are dildos available in this game?!  I'm changing my character.

In reply to James (msg # 16):

of note:  only some dildos are non-lethal.

In reply to GM (msg # 17):

Of further note- Alveris has an unlisted d8 of knowledge in this particular category as well as a bag which may be of particular interest to the discerning PC or NPC. (@ GM Discretion)

In y'all's goblin fight, I think you're forgetting gang-up bonuses for Conrad/Alveris, since you're both adjacent to and threatening the goblin.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 19):

Correct.  If you attack a target that has already been attacked this round, you get +1 to hit for each person already attacking to a max of +3.

Since the Goblin has a shield twice its size that you DON'T want to hit, this cancels any penalty he would have based on being 'unarmed'.

In reply to GM (msg # 20):

Is that a modification on the gang-up rules when using miniatures?  Typically you get a +1 for each adjacent ally to the target (that is providing some kind of threat), even if they haven't attacked yet.  I think we can keep track of who's next to what, but you're the boss.  That does make gang-up bonus significantly less powerful.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 21):

Just looked it up, apparently I mis-remembered:  The adjacent allies don't have to have attacked that round, just be 'attacking/harassing' in general (normally because they attacked in this or a previous round).

Also the max is +4, not +3, apparently... just doesn't happen very often.

Also, the goblin fight seems like an optimal time to wild attack, as the -2 parry isn't likely to be an issue.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 23):

What's a wild attack?

You attack with reckless abandon, showing little concern for your own defense.  +2 attack AND damage, -2 parry until your next turn.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 25):

Right.

Matt doesn't have a rulebook so he's never seen that.  Based on his description of the attack, I'm going to rule it was a Wild Attack.

In reply to GM (msg # 26):

16 persuasion roll.

I'm going to take some time to strongly ponder what I would like to have happen before I follow Connie out the door.

Another thing to consider in combat, for those of you who don't have the book: Tricks and Tests of Will.

Tricks are opposed Agility or Smarts (based on the description of your trick, i.e. tapping someone on the other shoulder and catching them off guard).  Success means the target gets a -2 parry until his next action; a raise means the target is shaken.

Tests of Will are similar.  Either Intimidate vs. Spirit or Taunt vs. Smarts.  Success means you get a +2 bonus on your next action against the target; a raise means the target is shaken.

Both tricks and tests of will are an action, but not an attack, so you can do a test of will followed by an attack in the same round (albeit with a -2 penalty).  It's a good way to deal with high-parry enemies that are deficient in smarts, agility, or spirit.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 28):

Great FYI, thanks!

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 28):

This will become very relevent once I get my voice back....

Stupid carrots.  I hate carrots.  It could have been anything you wanted other than carrots.

In reply to James (msg # 30):

So at what point does my fatigue go away and my voice come back?

Also, how often will our bennies refresh?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 32):

Your fatigue levels will vanish in a moment or two.  If it matters, you'll have a 'bumps and bruises' type fatigue level as a secondary effect but that will last only a half hour or so meaning it's unlikely to matter much rules-wise but feel free to play with it story/character-speaking.

With respect to Bennies, since we have no 'sessions', they'll refresh on a freely-scaling basis as a function of the scale of a given conflict plotted on both a combat/skill check axis and a plot significance axis (read: "when the GM says so").

In reply to GM (msg # 33):

How often does the GM tend to say so?  I need to know how carefully to ration these suckers.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 34):

Last time I asked, the GM just laughed at me so I'm loathe to ask again.

If I had to guess, and this is only from what I've heard 'round the campfire so to speak, the GM will try to do a reset based on A) a major conflict and B) passage of time.  Probably whenever there's a major battle and we've got some downtime to recover.

Again, that's just my guess lad, mostly it's rumor and you can't believe every rumor anyhow.  Just as oft I've heard it said the GM is a madman, or maybe that he's everywhere.  I've even heard it said that, in some way, we're all the GM, just different facets of one great whole.

Truth be told, I was never good at that sort of higher thought, never much had need for it.  But these are dark times...

In reply to Olek Longthrow (msg # 35):

ROFL

Just a heads up guys as I'm sure its about to come out in the not too distant future.  My father is the head of the fey military forces (just below the heads of the court) so to that end anyone who is familiar with the Fey military will know him.

I assume that means you too Olek.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:26, Tue 16 July 2013.

In reply to James (msg # 36):

Do you share a common surname? If you do, this seems like something Alveris would already inherently know based on his lineage, place in the court, and knowledge of courtly procedures.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 37):

We do share a surname, hence why I never give it.  He will know immediately when my surname is revealed.

Additionally we are likely about to start running into a knowledge gap within the team.  Should these expositions take place through PMs or should it happen in the main discussion thread and we play it as if we don't know?
This message was last edited by the player at 16:45, Wed 17 July 2013.

In reply to James (msg # 38):

Allow me to introduce you to my loving father, General of the Fey army, Aurvon Blackwood.

In reply to James (msg # 39):

I don't care how you choose to do it, but it would be nice if James and Alveris could choose colors for speech that are more distinct from one another...

In reply to James (msg # 39):

Roll for purple? d20?

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 41):

I'll change my color (now aqua).

Don't know if you have seen this but I thought that it would perfect given the current events

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UqFPujRZWo

Whose my minion?  Whose my minion?  You are!
This message was last edited by the player at 15:13, Tue 23 July 2013.

In reply to James (msg # 42):

Just an FYI I will be out of town tomorrow until next tuesday.

In reply to James (msg # 43):

Not a big deal, since you failed anyway, but I believe sleight of hand (which isn't a skill in the book, but who am I to argue?) would be opposed, probably by my Notice roll, in the future.

Thoughts, o mighty DM?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 44):

Slight of Hand was a special skill created for James, he's the only one who has it.

In a situation like this, yeah, it would make sense that his roll would be opposed either by smarts or agility (depending on what James is using the Slight of Hand) to do.

In this SPECIFIC situation, since he rolled a 1, no opposed roll is needed.

For future reference, in combat, Gnomish sailor NPCs will act on Conrad's card and he will choose their actions.

Francis (if you're in combat with him) will act on James' card and he will choose said actions (he's a hireling now).

In reply to GM (msg # 45):

It would make sense to be opposed by Notice, since that's the point of sleight of hand IRL (also I'm better at notice).  But yeah, in this situation, not an issue.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 46):

Everyone, if you haven't already, please update your character sheet (not description) to list all languages you speak so that I can quickly see.

In reply to GM (msg # 47):

Another comment:

If y'all really want to talk to one another IN character in a language some players don't speak, feel free to us the Private Message "PM" system.

Just note in your description that you "say something in Gnomish" or whatever.  I think you can include me in the PM if you want so that I can see it and I can make sure to tell the other Goblin assassins hiding around the ship what you said.

Clearly it's a little early for it yet, but how are we handling XP and advancement?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 49):

At some point I'll do a "session break".  That will reset Bennies, give XP and allow for advancement.

The goal is to have that correspond with what a normal in person "session" would have been.

In reply to GM (msg # 50):

Big chunk-O descriptive text for the game.  I paused in case anyone wants to say/do/prep anything before continuing the bell ride.

Do said dark shapes appear to be moving in an alive way?  How big are they?  Are they a threat?

EDIT:  Notice crit fail.  There are shapes?
This message was last edited by the player at 19:47, Wed 31 July 2013.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 52):

Crit failure eh?

There are no shapes Ulthlor, why would you suspect there were shapes?

In reply to GM (msg # 53):

Testing to see if I fixed my signature.

EDIT: Yup. Tantric Troubadour. Notary Public. Alveris Alderis.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:40, Wed 31 July 2013.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 54):

Do aqualungs come equipped with access to the PA system?  Do gnomish uniforms have "comlinks" on them?  How advanced is the Empire's steamtech?  We appear to be pretty cutting edge.

I'm also assuming Conrad knows how to use one of these things.  If that's not something I'd have covered/know how to do, I might have to take a different action.  Conrad's not suicidal...
This message was last edited by the player at 16:45, Thu 01 Aug 2013.

Neither is Uthor.  Seems to me they'd be pretty intuitive, though.  Probably to the point of not requiring a skill check to use.  Maybe needing an engineering or boating roll to do something fancy like an agility trick though.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 56):

The aqualungs do not access the PA system, nor do Gnomish uniforms have a starfleet logo you can tap to talk.

All Gnomish sailors (or those assigned to a sub) would have at least a briefing on how to use an aqualung.  They're tough, durable and not complicated (for gnomes).  You do not need a skill roll to use it in the way it was intended.

A Fey, however, WOULD need a roll to use an aqualung (unless a trained Gnome put it on for them).

Doing anything fancy with or while in the aqualung, naturally, could certainly require a roll.

In reply to GM (msg # 57):

In a question much along the lines of some of the nuts and bolt character leveling questions... how many levels do you think this game is going to go?  Will our characters make it to veteran or seasoned?  Just trying to figure out how to layer my upcoming edges.

In reply to James (msg # 58):

To that question I honestly have no answer.

The stuff I have planned spans at least 3-4 "sessions" if that helps.

That being said, if people have fun and the campaign goes on and on... who am I to argue?

In reply to GM (msg # 59):

Also, it should go without saying that:

A) There is currently no talking between the Bell and the divers

B) no talking between divers

In reply to GM (msg # 60):

Except, of course, by using the totally official and in no way just made up Imperial Diving Sign Language system, which all seamen are required to learn before boarding.

Right?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 61):

Totally legit.

Please roll Knowledge: Maritime Code or (if you choose) Knowledge: Diving History.

In reply to GM (msg # 62):

re: flashlight tricks- That was an awesome idea Chris!

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 63):

Thanks!  Just wish I'd had one more point on it.  It would have been shaken.

Also, @DM: I believe I still get an initiative card for future rounds.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:05, Fri 02 Aug 2013.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 64):

Yeah, you and the Fey would normally get a card anyhow, but since you're all on hold and I didn't plan on this combat lasting long, I chose not to bother.

No, I do not allow Bennies to be used on a snake eyes.

In reply to GM (msg # 65):

I would like to revisit this policy, for reasons that are completely unrelated to the current storyline :P

@James: You know we can't hear you anyway, right?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 67):

But the crew potentially can depending on income, and we're having a private convo. I think it's more fun even as a metagame abstraction if you aren't sure of what.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 68):

Eh.  It's fine, but it's a huge buzzkill to see "NEW POST" on the game only to find there's nothing new for me to read at all.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 69):

Completely off topic I found this in the post today
goo.gl/zsqqpF

Thought it was absolutely hilarious, classic board games in less than 30 min.  Chess had me crying.

In reply to James (msg # 70):

Very nice article, indeed.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 71):

To speed things up, I rolled for Conrad's damage.  Post edited.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 71):

I've updated my previous post in the game thread with the damage dealt to the shark.  One of the damage dice I rolled maxed out, but I didn't let it "explode" because I couldn't remember if damage rolls COULD explode.  If they can, there should be 1d6 more damage to account for.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 73):

New question.  If the harpoon has an attached line to it, it the harpoon still attached to the gun?  I assume I cut off the last one with a release mechanism so I could load the second one, but I don't know if I want to release this one unless the line's pretty short.

Related: I get to punch a shark, but the only thing cooler than that would be to be able to Scorpion him over to me first.  Get over here!
This message was last edited by the player at 13:28, Mon 05 Aug 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 74):

We'll say the Gnomes include a quick-disconnect feature on the harpoon line mount.  While reloading, you could have released the first one.

You now, however, DO have a shark on a tether.

This can be treated as a Grappel in a sense, you can make an opposed STR check to reel it in and the Shark can make an opposed STR check to either yank it out of your hands or pull you along with it.

Damage dice can explode.

Also, a note on grappling: Both parties involved can choose to roll either STR or AGI in the opposed roll.  In this case, though, I could see the mighty DM ruling that only strength can be used to reel the shark in.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 76):

That's how the harpoon was written and how the GM rules.

Mighty indeed.

In reply to GM (msg # 77):

It should also be noted, a target which is Shaken DOES still get its Parry value as a defense against further attacks.

In reply to GM (msg # 78):

Would Conrad or Uthor know whether to expect the Dark Reach to have its own oxygen supply? If the pump's on the fritz and we are banking on it to provide us with air, we're probably hosed.

I suppose we don't know, because we weren't sure if it was still watertight, right? We didn't notice it bubbling out or anything.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:22, Mon 05 Aug 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 79):

You didn't see any bubbling, meaning it's either airtight or already flooded.

When you open the hatch you'll find out in a hurry.

In reply to GM (msg # 80):

Well then... let's find out. As Bill from Star Fox likes to say: The hatches are open!

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 81):

Lose 15 experience...

In reply to GM (msg # 82):

If James has nothing posted in the next couple hours, just assume he's lost in thought and isn't answering.

In reply to GM (msg # 83):

If James doesn't answer/is lost in thought, does he still open the hatch?  This has combat implications.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 84):

If GM rules he's lost in thought or something, he's shaken for first round combat (immobilized by fear), and it would just be the 3 of us for initiative, I would suppose.

Jon- Can we assume that he follows us but is incapable of action? It's highly unlikely we would leave him alone at the entrance, but I'd hate to see us stall out waiting.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 85):

I don't want to leave him in the entrance hatch with a dead sailor.  I just want him to open the hatch initially before following along on autopilot :P

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 86):

For future policy, if we have a temporarily inactive player, the character will be assumed to 'follow along' but not really do anything.

In combat they'll hide or be ignored as GM sees fit.

Otherwise they will just follow quietly, but they will not open doors for you.

Despite the wisdom presented in that pivotal scene in the original "Gamers" film, you cannot adopt a "Send in Mark" strategy for combat with inactive players.  This applies to having someone touch something you suspect to be trapped, etc.

In reply to GM (msg # 87):

Fine, fine.

I think according to your rules he technically has three days to respond though, right?

Do we want to revise that to a 24-hour grace period for all players?  We've been moving at a pretty good pace.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:38, Wed 07 Aug 2013.

Also we're not really sending him in, we're having him open the hatch so the people with weapons can go in first.

Also what bout something like making a heal check to tell us how the gnome died?  That's not going to put him in danger.

I'm in favor of revising for a 24-hour grace period though.  Failure to respond puts you on hold until you do.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 89):

Hey Guys,

Sorry about that, not that any of you but Jon will know who I'm talking about....

Marion proposed to me on Sunday night.  So there has been a lot of discussion and calls to family over the last few days.

In reply to James (msg # 90):

Well, congrats!  If you had to be tardy, that's probably the best possible reason :)

Congratulations!  Yeah, what Aaron said.  Totally understand the absence there.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 92):

Thanks All :D.  It sexciting and really scary.

In reply to James (msg # 93):

The GM refuses to correct "sexciting".  It does not appear to be a typo.

In reply to GM (msg # 94):

Also, I appreciate the enthusuasm for secret communications (I really do).  But if you're openly (i.e. not whispering) Common or Gnomish, everyone can understand both of those so you don't need to use PM.

Fey, Goblin, etc. you can PM.

In reply to GM (msg # 94):

HAHA, I wish it wasn't a typo.  I think I'm going to say I meant sexciting.

In reply to James (msg # 96):

Just got engaged two months ago and I have more spreadsheets, wedding books, and venue visits planned than I would honestly want to admit. Welcome to hell my friend, er, and , Congrats!

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 97):

Marion says we should elope.  She recommends you do the same.

In reply to James (msg # 98):

Imagine that the person behind Alveris Alderis is probably the same sort of person who would write and play a character like Alveris Alderis.

Like Alvie would EVER pass up on a giant party where he's the center of attention.

When else will I have another opportunity to ask fearless GM to help me do a kegstand?

Savage worlds, or at least, your universe within it, doesn't get into Low light vision, but typically, elves are granted such a benefit.

Fearless GM- Do Fey have low light vision?

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 100):

In the vein of desperately wanting low-light vision, I posit the following:

It's also common knowledge that gnomish submarines - particularly later models - always equip their engine and pump rooms with an ingenious series of defense panels designed to introduce an electric charge into the surrounding environment -- including water up to several inches in depth.  Rubber-soled Gnomish boots, of course, provide resistance to such a charge.  These units, invented by Vlad Snakeroaster, operate on battery power, so as to be effective in the event of an underwater ambush while cruising on low power.

Standard issue, I tell you.  And voice activated.

***

Entirely Nonfictional Gnomish Proximity Defense Panels

Range: All living or otherwise animated targets within 5 meters
Activation Phrase: "Delta India Echo!"
Hit?: Automatic unless target makes Vigor save (raise required if liquid present)
Damage: d6 (d8 if conductive liquid present)
Special: Cannot affect anyone insulated from the conductive medium connecting the panels
This message was last edited by the player at 15:03, Thu 08 Aug 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 101):

Ladies and gentlemen, Conrad Son of Leif, pushing the boundaries of tongue in cheek to all new levels of phallic appearance..

Please note:  When I rolled my fighting die, I thought I was at range 1, with a +2 gang-up bonus from Conrad and Alveris' readied weapons.  Subtracting 2 from my roll (thus negating the bonus), I still hit with a 9, which is a raise, so my damage would be unaffected.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 103):

I don't recall how it's worded in the book, but generally the gang-up bonus only applies when there are other combatants.

As the snake was still at range and neither Alveris nor Conrad had engaged it (and indeed could still choose to flee without a counter-attack), they would contribute no gang-up bonus.

Ultimately, doesn't make much difference here though.

Also, no Conrad, no.

In reply to GM (msg # 104):

Without rulebook, I wasn't sure what to substract for throwing at vipers in proximity of everyone. My initial throw was a 9, so unless that modified is somehow -3, I'm going to assume I hit.

I didn't take the -1 for it being "dim" because Uthor was deliberately shining a light on them. I also considered them in range since they came to bite Uthor who had engaged the Boa @ Range 2.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 105):

Sounds about right.

I gave the range mostly to emphasize that nobody was currently "in melee" with them but that you/they could move within range on your turn.

The -2 for the vipers is based on size, it applies to melee and ranged at any range regardless of who else is where.

The rules provide no penalty for shooting/throwing into melee except:

If you roll a 1 on your shooting/throwing die (regardless of wild die), you hit a randomly selected target out of the possibilities.  This could mean the original target or a friendly.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 107):

Right, that's independent of the whole size issue though.

Very true; you still take the -2 to hit, though not the -1 because I deliberately made it not dim.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 109):

Yup and that's how I rolled it. Good to hear we were calibrated.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 110):

Since Gnomes are also Small, do they get to ignore the penalty associated for hitting other things in the same size category?  If so, I think I actually connected.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:33, Fri 09 Aug 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 111):

Yes, it's easier for a Gnome to hit a Snake than a Fey (in melee, at range your own size makes no difference).

However, there is still a penalty, albeit a smaller one, and a Fighting roll of 2 vs Parry of 6 means the 1 difference isn't enough to make a hit.

It doesn't make sense to have a -1 penalty for gnomes to hit the snake (which is Size -2, yes?).  Normal sized creatures don't get a -1 penalty to hit gnomes.  It makes sense to either be -2 or no penalty, but I don't see the logic for -1.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 113):

Maybe normal-sized creatures DO have a penalty to hit Gnomes...

Perhaps if that's a houserule from our glorious DM.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 115):


Traits:
Small - Gnomes get -1 from their Toughness but are at +1 difficulty to hit at range.

Snakes were +2 difficulty at Jon's discretion, which honestly, considering their size and mobility on the liquid surface, I didn't really question further.

TLDR- Gnomes indeed get a to hit penalty at range..

Right, but not in close combat.  The snakes' innate attack penalty applies to all attacks made against them by virtue of their size (-2).

EDIT: The -1 to ranged attacks that gnomes get appears to be a houserule already.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:39, Fri 09 Aug 2013.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 117):

So, here's what's going on with this.

In the rules, size modifications are broken into 2 parts (at least in the Explorer's Edition) size mods for to-hit and size mods for toughness.

For some reason, they assign toughness mods on a sliding scale of like -3 to +8.  Size mods for to hit, however, are only -2, 0 or +2.

This synchs up for something like a snake, -2 toughness and -2 to hit.  The snake stats you see are lifted directly from the book.

Where the rules are wonky is with midsized things.  The rules for Goblin state that they get -1 to toughness, but not -1 to hit.  Ogres, however, state that they are "slightly larger" than humans and get +2 toughness and +2 to hit.

My decision, for midsized creatures like Goblins, Gnomes, etc. is to give them both a -1 Toughness and a -1 to hit mod (which I wrote as for ranged, but should apply to ranged AND melee).  So then, yes, a Gnome attacking a snake has only a -1, not -2 as it would be for a Fey.

In general, the whole size mod attack doesn't really make any logical sense.  Sure, it's easier for a snake to hit something very large IF it's standing still, but in one step a human can clear several feet of distance, which means a simple step could easily put you well out of snake range.

Oh well, I decided making the toughness mod and to-hit mod match was simpler and more consistant, even if it makes no sense either way.  I have modded the character creation rules to note that Gnomes are -1 to hit overall.

In reply to GM (msg # 118):

What is the poisons strength so I can roll a heal check against it.

In reply to James (msg # 119):

I'm not sure you can do a Smarts Trick and an Attack on the same turn without suffering a -2 penalty to the thing you're doing second (in this case, the attack).  Could be wrong though - oh wise and merciful DM?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 120):

It's -2 to both abilities I accounted for it in the total but dint write it into the equation. I edited it and should be correct

In reply to James (msg # 121):

Correct.  Trick and an attack would be -2 to each.

In reply to GM (msg # 122):

So, what room of the ship are we in?  I can't tell if this is supposed to be the engine room, or if it's a precursor to the engine room.  Do I need to make a knowledge: boats check to find out?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 123):

Like, I see that it says "maintenance compartment" or something, but is that en route to the engine room?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 124):

You'd guess so, but you're not familiar with the specific layout of this sub.

In reply to GM (msg # 125):

So, are there other visible hatches in this room?

EDIT: nevermind, I'll do that in-game.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:15, Mon 12 Aug 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 126):

To all players, my sincerest nonapologies for introducing the likelihood of krakens.

Yours,

Alveris Alderis - 4th wall shattering Sexual Troubadour, Notary Public

Bah.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the kraken, I shall fear no evil.
For my harpoon gun is with me.
Locked, loaded, and ready to go.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:11, Tue 13 Aug 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 128):

How large is the opening to the room? Should I assume it's basically impossible for the gnomes to go in and for me to still be able to fire knives in at snakes without somehow skewering said gnomes like pincushions?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 128):

I loled

In reply to James (msg # 130):

Not impossible to throw knives over a Gnome's shoulder at enemies... not recommended.

...at least with knives you don't need to worry about tinnitus.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:37, Tue 13 Aug 2013.

In reply to James (msg # 130):

My entire character sheet and background, until Jon edited it, was written in the third person, and was fourth wall shattering.

Alveris is basically some unholy amalgamation in concept of Sterling Archer (personality), Deadpool (general disposition and 4th wall shattering), and Jayne (complete lack of trust) from Firefly.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 132):

Snakes are about to to take their turn.  Interrupt now or forever hold your peace.

In reply to GM (msg # 133):

What's the actual penalty inflicted by Blind?  Beyond failing notice checks, I mean...

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 134):

-6 to all tasks requiring vision and -2 to social interactions.

Probably shouldn't mention that your parry is 2 while blind...

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 136):

I was falling back anyway... :P

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 137):

Allow me to be the first to say that, if James manages to throw any important maps into the water after both fey just kind of ignored the OTHER map we found, I officially give up on trying to stay on the rails :P
This message was last edited by the player at 19:15, Thu 15 Aug 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 138):

Scene setup clarification:

The ladder leading up is in the Maintenance Access room.

Uthor and Conrad are still in the Pump/Air reg room.

In reply to GM (msg # 139):

That doesn't change what I'm trying to do, though.  I'm assuming that there's a code room with 2 fey in it.  A ladder leads down from the Code Room and into the Maintenance Access.  This room is connected to the Pump/Air Reg room, which Uthor and Conrad are trying to leave.

If James and Alveris were able to get back to the Code Room in one go, I feel like Uthor and I should be able to travel at least to the Maintenance Room without trouble.

And I'm aiming to be just behind Conrad.  Re: readying an acton. I believe that just counts as going on hold.  You can attempt to interrupt a snake's move or attack by making an opposed agility roll.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 141):

All correct.

In reply to GM (msg # 142):

Dammit, SNAKES.

Ok, so the spitters are down a hallway, right?  Was it not possible to position myself at a right angle from that hallway? That was the entire point of falling back - to minimize our exposure to ranged attacks.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 143):

If you climb back into the access room, yeah you can move off to one side and get out of their fire.

In reply to GM (msg # 144):

Noted!

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 145):

Alveris you dorked it up really hard on that comment to connie, I loled.

Re: Alderis' comment

For those interested, the correct term is herpetophile, or more specifically, ophidiophile.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 147):

I honestly considered looking it up, but decided it was way funnier if I didn't.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 148):

I hate you both, in varying amounts.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 149):

Heh, good move on the swarm

In reply to GM (msg # 150):

Haha thanks.  I'm just glad it wasn't a faceplant-inducing critical miss...

In reply to GM (msg # 150):

I was going to start looking for a shovel or something of the like in the back room, but just as I was typing it that was posted.

In reply to James (msg # 152):

Can y'all see the new map I uploaded?

In reply to GM (msg # 153):

Yes.

Ok, so we were already at the "engineering" hub, which is how we drained the room.  We now need to go into the reactor room?  Let's do that.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 154):

There probably aren't even any velociraptor snakes laying in wait!

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 155):

Based on my previous post, I'm putting myself as far away from the hatch as is spacially possible while still maintaining visibility to the hatch and the gnomes.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 156):

which hatch?

In reply to GM (msg # 157):

The one that leads into the reactor room of death. As far away from reactor door as possible.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 158):

so against pipe pillar or in another room?

In reply to GM (msg # 159):

I will be in another room, Starboard cargo on the other side of the inconvenient pilar of pipes when the door is opened.  I will then return to the gnome unless otherwise interrupted.

Uthor trains his flashlight on the door, drawing his axe and standing behind Conrad.

In reply to GM (msg # 159):

 Same room as far away as possible. Against pillar as you're describing I guess

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 162):

So, can I open this door or are we waiting for a GM event?

The numbers of snakes in the GM post are inconsistent with the numbers described.  Please update so the poor saps outside the reactor know what they're dealing with.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 164):

I should be at the far end of the pump room, farther than Alveris, should I still make a vigor roll?

In reply to James (msg # 165):

If he didn't ask me to, and you're further away, I'd assume you're kosher.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 166):

I thought your last comment was to get far away in the same room, i.e. Engineering?

I should probably stop "helping," but if someone soaks all wounds (including an NPC wild card), they're also not shaken.  The boa should be fine (stat-wise at least).

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 168):

He soaked enough to negate actual damage but not enough to get rid of Shaken.  Also didn't make much difference since he wanted to slide over and nibble on some Fey anyhow...


All: Please make sure you track your injuries/status/bennies in your character sheets.

You don't have to soak extra to get rid of shaken.  If you soak all the wounds, you automatically aren't shaken.  Unless that's a houserule for you.

But that's cool, if he wanted to nibble fey.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 170):

How long will it take for those snakes to get to me?  Will they be able to reach me in a single movement?

In reply to James (msg # 171):

I think they move at the speed of betrayal... :P

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 172):

You mean the speed of self preservation?  Theres a huge difference.

In reply to James (msg # 173):

Yes, they can move and attack you in a round.

In reply to GM (msg # 174):

Also, Alveris, wait your turn!

I like your enthusiasm but let me draw initiative first!

If the boa's not in melee, it hits with a raise.  If it is, you throw against its parry rather than the flat 4 target number for range.

Hitting with a raise doesn't automatically shake the target, but it does add 1d6 to your damage roll.  Your Wild Attack bonus applies to the full total of the roll.

In reply to GM (msg # 175):

I thought your failure to redraw initiative should be construed as a continuance of the previous round. Sorry :(

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 177):

How does the 4 damage work? Technically, I had already taken 3 overflow damage from my bennies. I have a toughness of 6 in armor. Does this now wound me? Sorry to be so green, just uncertain how this works.

I've also been taking some pretty epic multi action penalties to move/throw in the same round. It's not uber clear to me in Savage Worlds what a 5 foot adjust (Read- movement that is not an action) consists of.

Please just consider the rest of my action to occur as written, when appropriate, at your discretion. I dart away from the snakes (as you wrote in), while throwing a knife at the giant oncoming boa.

I can also revise my action as necessary, preserving what I can of rolls already made.

Moving is not an action, so you don't incur penalties for throwing in the same round.  Damage always checks vs. toughness.  It's not like HP.  If you take 4 damage and have 6 toughness, you're fine regardless of how many wounds you have or whatnot.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 178):

Ok, so... we'll assume Alveris's last action happens now, and move on to James?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 179):

How would this work with a benny soak? Would the benny reduce the initial damage received, and then your toughness overcomes the rest?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 179):

GM can you concur moving and throwing in same round isn't considered multi action? What stops this from being like a John Woo style matrix where I run my max pace flinging knives and stuff every round?

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 182):

Benny soak is odd to explain: check the book.

Movement up to pace is not an action.  You can move and attack.  However, drawing a new knife IS an action.

Good point about the knife drawing.

So soaking with a benny works like this, for those who don't have the book.

When you get hit and would take a wound, you can spend a benny to attempt to soak.  You can do this once per attack.

Roll vigor.  Each success and raise negates one wound.  If you negate all wounds you would take, you're also not shaken.

Additionally, you can spend a benny at any time to automatically recover from shaken (even if you've already rolled to recover).  This is not an action.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 184):

Confused about my location. I climbed out of the pump room, but am now above engineering. If I go partway back down the ladder (out of snake reach) and start hucking knives, what room am I looking at? Engineering or pump?

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 185):

You confused me too...

There is no ladder leading out of the pump room.  The only ladders are up from Engineering or Up from the Maintenance room into the COde room.

The ladder in Engineering was the only one even remotely in range.

In reply to GM (msg # 186):

taking my turn now.

In reply to James (msg # 187):

Can I make it up the ladder in the maintenence room next turn?

In reply to James (msg # 188):

No.  Can get into the Maintenance room.

In reply to GM (msg # 189):

So I soaked one of the wounds, do I need to do roll again to soak nettlesnakes or do I just take that one since I didn't get the needed raise?

A soak roll is good for one attack.  You soaked the hit that would have wounded you, thus also recovering from shaken.  Then, the nettlesnakes "re-shook" you.  So you should be shaken currently.  You should roll to recover, as it will soon be your turn.

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In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 191):

So I unshook off of the attack then got dinged twice again so I have one wound now correct?

In reply to James (msg # 193):

Looks that way, unless you have another benny to spend soaking the third attack.

So it's Nettlesnakes (soaked), Viper 1 (shaken), Viper 2 (wound).

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 194):

Good to know my math is in line.  Thanks

In reply to James (msg # 195):

Heh, I've had far worse co-GMs Chris...

Heh.  By all means let me know if I'm overstepping here.  Just passing on the rules to the players who don't have the book.  Which they should buy, however, because it's cheap and awesome.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 197):

I have a copy, its just not something I readily keep in my cube at work.

In reply to James (msg # 198):

I do not have a copy of the book.  I just know some of the rules from the last time I played.  It's good to have rules clarifications available from anyone who knows the answer, if it's a mechanic - keeps things flowing. IMO, anway :)

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 199):

Works for me!

In reply to GM (msg # 200):

Who's turn is it?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 201):

Our other herpes riddled fey ;)

In reply to James (msg # 202):

Sorry gang. I'm on vacation tomorrow/Friday, so today was a crazy day of meetings and doing what everyone but Nick will understand to be "Kizner things", although, I suppose none of you have a barometer for it in the corporate context. Imagine awesome.

Logging in now.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 203):

I'll be out of town from Friday evening 'til Wednesday evening.  I'll do my best to check in once a day, but I can't promise anything.

Let's wrap this combat up before I leave, eh? :)

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 204):

Then start killing things! :P

And by the time you get back I fully expect Francis will be out of the brig.

In reply to James (msg # 205):

(In his best Vader voice): "You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor.  Take him away."

EDIT: Also, START?  I've killed something like 8 snakes in the past 3 rounds.  It would have been more, but SOMEONE said I wasn't allowed to augment my axe further by making it spew bolts of chain lightning while calling myself Thor, Gnome of Thunder.  Jon.

Maybe with a high enough engineering roll...
This message was last edited by the player at 13:51, Fri 30 Aug 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 206):

As always, you're always welcome to TRY augmenting it...

Maybe tap into the ship's main power lines?

Prolly a good idea to explain Death/dying in SW at this point...

Wild Cards (PCs and some NPCs) can take 3 wounds.  Each one imposes -1 on Pace and Trait rolls.

If a Wild Card would take a 4th wound, they instead become Incapacitated and must make a Vigor check (including penalties for wounds etc, so normally at least -3).

The number of wounds you take over 3 is irrelevant.  If you are at 3 wounds and take 1 you go Incapacitated.  If you are at 3 wounds and take 6 more in one hit, same result.

This is likely the case for Alveris and James.  Please make your Vigor checks (including modifiers for wounds, fatigue, etc).  Remember you get a wild die, so whichever is higher trumps.  The result is either Success, Success with Raise, Failure or Crit (both dice are "1").

Let me know how it goes and I'll tell you the outcome...

In reply to GM (msg # 207):

The nettlesnakes shouldn't be able to act... unless they unshook.  The smarts trick was a hit with a raise...

Otherwise I'm making vigor checks

In reply to James (msg # 208):

Is the penalty -1 for each instance of the venom?

In reply to James (msg # 209):

He can always use a GM benny to force the swarm to recover, but I'm not sure what exactly the barrel thing did to the snakes.  We'll need the GM to weigh in there.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 210):

The Blue Viper venom is a little less nasty than the 'book' version of poisonous snakes.  It just Exhausts you, no matter how many times you get poisoned (-2).  The book version will kill you with repeat poisonings...

Swarms have Spirit d12, they're very hard to keep Shaken.

In reply to GM (msg # 211):

yeah I read the book venom and thought oh good god.  OK so I'll try to stay alive...

In reply to James (msg # 212):

This would also be a good time to make a Life Insurance roll.  Potentially for all of us. :)

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 213):

Net vigor roll of 0.

In reply to James (msg # 214):

Well, that's probably Bad™.

You took, what, a -3 for wounds and a -2 for exhausted?  I'm not sure they stack (though they might).  And I'd still rule that to be "better" than a critical fail.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:59, Fri 30 Aug 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 215):

It wasn't a crit fail as that is 1,1 on the dice I had a 2,5 he says in the previous post to subtract wounds and exhausted.  I'm not sure where on the death track that places me.

In reply to James (msg # 216):

Mr. GM, your opinion?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 217):

A regular failure is some degree of bleeding out.  Waiting to see what happens with Alveris' wounds before I update everyone.

In reply to GM (msg # 218):

I'm out of bennies. Can I take more than one wound in a round?

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 219):

A player can absorb up to three wounds before they have to roll on the Incapacitated Table, which is where you can die.

So Conrad is Shaken and has 3 Wounds right now.  If he takes any additional damage at all, he'll go into the Incapacitated Table and could die.

Rough example:
If you're at full health with no bennies and have to deal with a 19 Damage roll: Subtract your toughness from it.  Then you get hit with one "notch" of damage for every 4 points that are left.  4 = Shaken + Wound, 8 = Wound, 12 = Wound, 16 = Vigor or Die ('course that roll is at -3 for all the wounds, so the chances are not good).


This message was last edited by the player at 20:51, Sun 01 Sept 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 220):

Matt, just need a Vigor roll for incapacitaion.  I can make it for you if you'd like.

In reply to GM (msg # 221):

James:another vigor roll would be great.

In reply to GM (msg # 222):

You lie.  It would not be great.

It would be terrible.

In reply to James (msg # 223):

Still -5 I'm assuming?  Another 0.

In reply to James (msg # 224):

If I die I want to be reincarnated as a goblin ;-)

In reply to James (msg # 225):

If you take control of Francis, I suppose we might be able to figure out a way to get you into Alveris's protective custody or something...

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 226):

In case it matters: the decision to return to the sub is up to you guys, it won't ruin the plot, just steer it slightly differently in each case.

Uthor is the only one fit enough to actually go back down there.  I don't mind him going as long as it doesn't bog down the game too much for the others who won't be as involved in the action.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 228):

Damn nettlesnakes!

Well being all unconcious and the like I don't have much say, but do know that we only have an hour and if you can't get to the sub and back in that time then wound's won't heal and the point is kind of moot at that.

Also I have a medical pouch with tools that I am conveniently wearing if that will help the crew.

Why would I be unable to make it down there.  I'm not incapacitated in any way, though I am hindered by my injuries at the moment.

How do those heal, anyway?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 230):

As Nick pointed out, normal medical attention (and many healing magics) only work for "fresh" injuries.

After that it's up to BIG magic and natural healing.  Natural healing is a Vigor roll once every 5 days (modifiers for wounds you already have, travel conditions, etc).  Success removes 1 wound, raise removes 2.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 230):

What I'm thinking of is the time to research the crew, organize them, load them into the bell, find the equipment, fight the snakes, leave the reach, load them back into the bell, travel back up and give it to the doctors.

Also considering that we have to subtract the time that we spent getting off of the boat and back to the ship.

Fearless leader (GM) how long did it take us to limp away from the reactor room and get back to the november.

In reply to James (msg # 232):

Not long, a few minutes, but yes you would need to hurry.

I should note (from my description of the diving bell entering the Red Spring.  The "flash of light" I described was the lights in the Spring's Diving room as you were pulled from the dark water.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:20, Fri 06 Sept 2013.

In reply to GM (msg # 233):

But we're getting "fresh" medical attention as we speak.  How effective is it?

I definitely have no interest in going back down there with a global -3...

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 234):

The medic will be done in a few minutes, and will get the party to the following:

-Remove all Shaken effects
-Remove all poison effects
-James will be stabilized and dropped to 2 Wounds.  He also gains a permenant Injury "Battered Guts" (Vigor reduced by 1 die to min d4).
-Conrad will be dropped to 2 Wounds.
-Alveris will have his temporary Injury removed and dropped to 2 Wounds.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:20, Fri 06 Sept 2013.

In reply to GM (msg # 235):

Am I awake or still out?

In reply to James (msg # 236):

Having 75% of the party sitting on 2 wounds for the next 5 days seems like it will preclude any options that involve combat or precision.  If we don't torpedo the Reach, we'll have to send other mooks down there to clear it.  I guess that settles that; I didn't realize healing was such a slow process in SW.

Thanks for clearing up the flash.  Ignore Uthor's meltdown-related comments.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 238):

Without magic or someone skilled, healing can be a bitch.

In reply to GM (msg # 239):

Thats where the savage in savage worlds came from.

Now you see why you protect your squishies.

If I'm awake I can try to heal at -4 but thats a dicey proposition.

I was going to petition the GM for a new magic heal at the level break but we'll see if I pull through.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:03, Sat 07 Sept 2013.

In reply to James (msg # 240):

It does no good to "protect the squishees" if you can't heal the tank afterward.

I'm all for the strategy, I'm just sayin'... I was durable enough to not roll on the incapacitated table, and I'll end up in the same boat as both of you, more or less.  2 Wounds.

It's interesting.  I need to adapt to it.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:41, Sat 07 Sept 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 241):

The flip side being all the damage we all shrugged off because it never exceeded our toughness.

It's a change from DnD in the sense that you won't get nickel and dimed to death. But when you do get hit, like in real life, you get fucking hit.

Yeah.  It helps to think of your bennies as your "hit points."  They're your supply of soak rolls.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 241):

You didn't protect the squishy, hence why you are looking for healing supplies for the healer... kinda ironic really.  If anyone had bailed me out of the snake pit I could have likely taken care of our collective wounds and we may not even have had to leave the ship.

In reply to James (msg # 244):

your aggressive commitment to being a coward coupled with us not metagaming made that impossible.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 245):

Fair enough.  I would have been better off in the hold with only the two snakes to keep me company....

In reply to James (msg # 246):

Seriously, take a look at the log. I was AOE tanking 8 targets while Matt was doing his best with what was left. We were two-manning a four-man encounter, and I think the fact that nobody died is pretty amazing in and of itself.

I would have loved to protect the healer, but when you're one or two rooms over do you really expect me to take 8 attacks of opportunity because your craven character can't sit still?

Rawr, etc.  The characters were each played the way they were meant to be.  I enjoy the lack of metagaming here -- it just leads to the situations we've found ourselves in.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 247):

You are correct. I do think it was good we didn't meta game. I keep forgetting the goal isn't to "win" ie world of Warcraft. I have to keep reminding myself that. We will just adapt to the new situation.

In reply to James (msg # 248):

On the topic of not meta gaming, I see some hot party-splitting action in our future.

Unrelated: we're all going to die.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 249):

Oh yeah.  I'm getting murdered while in a wheel chair looking at maps by traitors.  Downton Periscope 2 picks up with a gnomish/fey submarine looking for the lost son of the general and a gnomish submarine on a secret mission.

In reply to James (msg # 250):

Gnomish sailor stats should be in the NPC stats section.

Each will have leather armor, a hatchet (1-handed axe) and a repeater.

James looks to be staying behind, just let me know who all else is going.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:27, Mon 09 Sept 2013.

In reply to GM (msg # 251):

Sounds good to me.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:56, Mon 09 Sept 2013.

Now that I think about it, any word on advancement/benny refreshing?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 253):

Go ahead and refresh Bennies.

Leveling will likely occur after the Dark Reach is dealt with.
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:33, Tue 10 Sept 2013.

In reply to GM (msg # 254):

Is it 3 bennies?

In reply to James (msg # 255):

Unless you took "luck", "Great Luck", "child" etc. yes.

In reply to GM (msg # 256):

Cool.

Are we able to take weird edges?  I'm looking at healer for level break.

Was Olek convinced or do I need Alveris' help?

You forgot your wound penalties, looks like.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 258):

awwww crap.  Damn!

In reply to James (msg # 259):

Do wounds really make it harder to be persuasive and such?  I feel like you'd get pity points or something.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 260):

I was just about to ask if i get a +2 to persuasion for being injured in the line of duty.

Rulebook says "all trait tests" and also pace.  I imagine the pain makes it harder to concentrate and formulate a coherent persuasive argument.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 262):

Also, I think James waited to ask Olek about that until we were out of the room, Chris.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 263):

Fixed

In reply to GM (msg # 264):

Conrad, I'll put you in charge of rolling and taking actions for the other Gnomes.

Assistance rolls add to the person actually doing the work for every success and each raise.

Working as a group, the two Gnomes will get a single Repair roll (d6) but since they are working as a group, they get a wild die too.

In reply to GM (msg # 265):

YAY! I HAS GOBLIN!

I actually had two scathing taunts to throw at Olek if he didn't give me what I wanted... I'll hold onto those for later ;).

In reply to James (msg # 266):

Oh, PLEASE drink once more from the poisoned wine casks... :)

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 267):

How does Francis' text look?  Is it too similar to mine?  Should I pick something more contrasting?

In reply to James (msg # 268):

GOBLIN WINE TASTER.

Why is this the best campaign ever

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 269):

Hell I'm not drinking the nova fruit laced wine.

In reply to James (msg # 270):

Conrad/Uthor

You've explored everything on that middle floor.

You can go up or down from the Engineering, or you can go back up to the Code room and go forward.

In reply to GM (msg # 271):

Updated!

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 272):

Are they hearing the rustling of very soft bandages in the pipes all around them?

In reply to James (msg # 273):

Nonchalantly: How flammable, on a scale from "water" to "actual fire", is Gnomish beard wax?

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 274):

I keep wanting to post but I'm having a hell of a day.  I'll get something up later today.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 274):

And you can actually burn the water in the proper chemical condi....

oh god I'm a dork.

In reply to James (msg # 276):

Can I just say I absolutely love the imagery right now.  Its like in Lord of the Rings when Denethor is making Pip sing to him and Faramir is riding into his certain doom at Osgiliath.

The fey eating cheese and drinking wine while the gnomes are in a far off sub the lights flickering and hearing rustling in the pipes.

In reply to James (msg # 277):

Hey Jon,

Can we get stats for the medic?  The standard crewsman does not have a healing die.

In reply to James (msg # 278):

Hey Matt, you are a bit turned around on that the end result of what we did was:

You have a 5 check to read the manifest

I have a 4 check to read the maps

...and we have apparantly a remarkably intelligent goblin.

In reply to James (msg # 279):

Nope. I had a better post written if I was reading the maps, so now I'm reading the maps too.  Honestly, we were sort of in the middle of doing both, so I just ran with it. I'd have definitely been a little more loyal to the flow of things if this was actual combat/game effecting. Jon's going to let us figure out whatever the hell he wants us to figure out from the maps/manifest largely independent of our rolls.

Alveris:Deadpool::Grass:Green
This message was last edited by the player at 02:03, Fri 13 Sept 2013.

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 280):

The medic is just a normal crewman with a die in healing, likely d6.

In reply to GM (msg # 281):

Also, maps should be updated (only for those who are on the Dark Reach)

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 280):

Some gras is brown, and there are several varieties of r....

Oh god I'm doing it again.

In reply to James (msg # 283):

Do we know where the Alabaster sea is?

Is this midwinter?

Also do we know what else was in or where that barrel came from?
This message was last edited by the player at 14:34, Fri 13 Sept 2013.

In reply to James (msg # 284):

The map was found in the barrel the goblin was in. Not that I'm there to tell you that.

Also, man, those repeaters plus wounds are super hard to aim...

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 285):

All I'm hearing is Conrad Son of Leif was one of the last personnel transferred into Command on the Reach.

Or should I call you Comrade Traitor?!

In reply to Alveris Alderis (msg # 286):

I wasn't going to say anything but you know

Walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

Its probably a duck.

Unles its one of those, things.

In which case you are so screwed.

And to think you were trying to hold poor innocent Francis in the brig because he knew your deep dark secret!

In reply to James (msg # 287):

Is stuffing he repeater into my belt, drawing a new one, or equipping my ae the sort of thing that costs extra -2 penalties?

Stuffing is; dropping isn't.  Drawing a weapon is an action either way.

I am seeing this in my head too.  It's an awesome montage of chatting and studying and plotting mixed with scenes of combat elsewhere.  Love it.

Agreed.

Also, wound penalties don't affect damage, nor do multi-action penalties.

Wounds only reduce pace and trait tests.

Huh, seems I forgot to attempt to recover from shaken on my turn.  I rolled, but didn't get a raise.  Since I acted, assume I spent a benny to recover automatically.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 292):

Sounds good.

I've got a lot of extraneous rolls on the chart.  I keep forgetting to check "Reroll Max," "Record Separately" and "Drop Lowest."  Ignore the incorrect rolls.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 294):

Yeah I keep messing up too, especially with the two NPCs.  Rest assured the values I'm using are as close to accurate as I can manage!

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 295):

That's half the reason I use secret rolls.  That and I roll so many dice... the log would go on forever...

In reply to GM (msg # 296):

It's enough to open the door.  I'll do a walk-in description later.

In reply to GM (msg # 297):

You guys fall all to peices when there aren't any fey watching over you *sigh*...

In reply to James (msg # 298):

Hey, at least my minions are effective at things...

Unrelated: MEDIC!
This message was last edited by the player at 20:36, Mon 16 Sept 2013.

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 299):

Did you see Francis with that smarts roll?

SMARTEST. GOBLIN. EVER.

Find me some equipment on the dark reach, we may be able to get rid of another wound on me and I should be able to patch you up all nice and new like.

In reply to James (msg # 300):

Is Olek coming back?  Or is it off on our next adventure?

In reply to James (msg # 301):

Olek is still in the room with you...

The Spec Ops armor is thus:

Covers torso, thighs, upper arms.

Armor +2 (Ignores 1 AP)

Has integral holster/belt for repeater cartridges, axe, flashlight, knife etc.  Back has sling for medical kit and 1 grenade (so teammate can access them from behind).

Also has straps so that you can quickly attach/detatch from climbing harness/grappeling hook or so a teammate can easily drag you from battle when injured.  If you want there is also a climbing harness in the gear.

The Portable Assault Gun (P.A.G) is a stationary crank/compression gattling gun.  It breaks down into several pieces, but it takes 2 to carry the whole thing.  Once assembled, one shoots the other loads etc.

In reply to GM (msg # 302):

My questions in my last post were aimed at Olek about Urf and Hyle and checking the inventory.

How much does Spec Ops Armor weigh?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 304):

It's based on Kevlar armor from core rules.  That doesn't include accesories, grenade, etc.

AutoGnome stats are up in NPC section

In reply to GM (msg # 305):

Just a random question... something that bothered me and I just realized why...

Africanized asps...

Is there an Africa?  Are we assuming standard eart flora and fauna, just some new humanoids running around?

Yeah I was wondering that too.  Is this supposed to be the real world but with gnomes?  Or is it a fantasy world?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 307):

to be fair there are no giant boa or rhinoceros snakes so I imagine its fairly similar though.  There is no need to call a snake anything other than a snake... its just the geographical aspect of it.

In reply to James (msg # 308):

It's a breed and style.  In this sense, "Africanized" means they were bred, raised and trained by the famed snake handler Afrika McGee.  It does not refer to the place.

Also that particular asp was from Africa.
This message was last updated by the GM at 16:28, Tue 17 Sept 2013.

In reply to GM (msg # 309):

It's a magical, far-away land filled with milk and honey horrible, horrible poverty.  You can see why the snake had to seek its fortune as a mercenary.

So there is an Africa?

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 311):

James: giving Alveris some time to reply/post.

Gnomes: There were a total of three grenades, right now Conrad, Magni and Modi have them

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 311):

There is no such place as "Africa".  It's largely myth and fable.  However, there IS a real place that tales of "Africa" are based on.

That real place is, unfortunately and unimaginatively now that I think about it, also called "Africa".

In reply to GM (msg # 313):

ROFL!!!

In reply to James (msg # 314):

Hey Guys,

I just got slammed at work.  I'm not sure if I'll be able to respond the way I would like to until late tonight.  Just an FYI.  If I can I will log back in and do so.

What are everyone's conditions so I can roll heals appropriately.

Additionally there was mention of an iminent dinging, can we hit level before the healing or is that considered part of the 'saga of the reach'?
This message was last edited by the player at 16:18, Wed 18 Sept 2013.

In reply to James (msg # 315):

Yes.  Dinging will be at the end of the Saga of the Reach.

In reply to GM (msg # 316):

I don't think anyone was really hurt except for me on the Reach.  I'm at 3 wounds.  One of them is "fresh" from the last battle.  The other 2 are what were left after the last time you healed me, so probably can't be healed again normally.

Take your time!

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 317):

How much time has passed since they left?  Are we still within the hour?

Remember I didn't heal it was the gnomish medics who did.

Fearless GM, will I be able to take a shot at healing Connie?

Also I'd like to do my action before Uthor takes the vial, I'll work it into the post, I'll try to write something up when I get home (but will be late tonight)
This message was last edited by the player at 21:11, Wed 18 Sept 2013.

In reply to James (msg # 318):

You can attempt to heal Connie's 3rd wound, yes.

All other wounds are outside the time limit.

In reply to GM (msg # 319):

So the TLDR version of my post....

-1 wound for James
-1 wound to Alveris?  (Can lead an Alvie to pickled will o the wisp but can't make him dirnk)
-1 wound to Conrad for standard healing
-1 other wound to Conrad for the will o the wisp.  If you drink.

In reply to James (msg # 320):

Head's up!

I'm back, though my posting may be a little irregular and slow for a while.

Also, new daughter is happy and healthy!

In reply to GM (msg # 321):

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

In reply to James (msg # 322):

Huzzah!  Congrats :)

Glad to hear it!  Congrats.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 324):

Thanks all!

In reply to GM (msg # 325):

Connie and James, quick break.

Resolving some things in the Dark Reach prior to Alveris and Uthor's return.

In reply to GM (msg # 326):

Aye Aye captain

*drunken salute*

In reply to James (msg # 327):

Oh and Marion wants pictures.  And how is mom?

In reply to James (msg # 328):

I'm going to be on "pause" until Jon says he wants me and James to resume.  May be more at work with the helmet than we know?  I dunno.  And that's the point, I suppose.

Also, yes, pictures.  And status updates! :)

In reply to Conrad son of Leif (msg # 329):

I will too but could not resist the kosher reference.

In reply to James (msg # 330):

...AAAAND we're back.

Un-pause

In reply to GM (msg # 331):

Is he wearing the helmet?

Unfortunately, he is.

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 333):

Do you know why that's bad, or just that it is.

Just that it is.

Sounds like we might be finally done with the Reach!  On to new adventures!

In reply to Uthor son of Magnusson (msg # 336):

Indeed.

For completing chapter 1: Reach Darkly, you all "Ding!" to level 2 and reset your Bennies.

Once you've updated your character sheets, please describe how you are going about searching the ship or your assigned portion thereof.

In each room/area please give me a Notice check.