Whoot

Not according to Universal Digestion (it has to have animal or vegetable proteins)... but I won't argue against it!


Kinda a waste for her to have bought rations now though... but then they are tastier than dirt (but not as tasty as Celestial Priests...  I mean I'm just guessing.  Haven't eaten one.  Yet).

Hmmm.  I'm all for it though the more I consider it.  Eating stone probably explains why the stronger, bigger, brutish Trolls are so stupid.  They aren't eating other sapients like the smaller, smarter trolls are.

That fire flinging guy we found might provide a nice spicy meal ... and get rid of a whiner.  ;-)

In reply to Ulo (msg # 3):

Other varieties of troll have acquired DR and other properties from stone eating, like arcane and magic resistance from eating meteoric iron.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 5):

It seems the Celestial and the fire-weilding whiner need to team up to stay alive then! Of course, the trolls probably don't need another firebrand psycho as an enemy! From the whining I have heard, one is enough!

"You can't handle the truth!"

In reply to Melchizidek (msg # 6):

Also, it is official that Tortuga, player of Oren, Jin, Grend, Mancini, Azrael and Harlan (iirc) has left Northport.

Oh well ... he has shut down many of his games after only a few hundred posts too... leaving his players high and dry... unfortunate.

In reply to Brodak (msg # 8):

He would actually be a good player/GM if he had more stamina...yeah, Brodak, pity.

Quoting from last thread:



I strongly prefer treating languages as skills (per 3e and previous) over treating them as a learnable advantage.  Actual fluency requires a lot more hours of study and practice than three character points (six, if you also take literacy) represent.  Then again, a 3e character with very high IQ could get pretty high fluency in a bunch of languages for 1 point each, with literacy included for all with the single Literacy advantage (+10 points, as I recall, for a non-literate society, +0 if literacy is the norm).

Languages were broken, so SJ Games broke them further.  The simple fix would have been to have languages learned as a teen or adult work as if IQ were 10, or possibly less.  I'll probably look at running them that way (skill based on 10 instead of either IQ skill or advantage) if I ever run another GURPS game.

Under 3e I also had the option of starting skills at 0.5 points in GCS .... I really liked that... but Rich won't put it in the 4e versions because it's not regulation.

Since we're talking about talking...

I never liked 3e's take on Languages.  Is it more "realistic"?  Ish.  Is it more "gameable"?  No...

I vastly prefer 4e's take.  But I still decry them as being too bloody expensive.  It's a participation tax, which I go back and forth on whether I like that or not.

Of course being someone who likes to play characters who are either linguists (Jareth) or linguistically challenged (every other character I've made here so far) this particular corner of GURPS is one I paint myself into all the time.




[EDIT]
On 'half point skills':

You still have it, it's a Perk called Dabbler.  Though being a Perk your GM has to either not impose limits on Perks or make that one not impact the limit.
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In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 12):

I treat dabbler as a reflection of minimally remembered  half point skills.

Missed that ... I'll let Rich know and see if he'll put them back in ...

In reply to Brodak (msg # 14):

It is found in Power Ups: Perks

They aren't "half point" skills though... not really.

They are improved defaults, which is a whole nother kettle of fish.  But they can generally fill the same role.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 16):

Last call before initiating the Hadereun run cult hunt; Goran the Marked, Hograth, and Urrun will be the core, possibly with a dwarf construction  expert (character still being built).
There are a ranger, a cleric and a holy warrior, plus a dwarf who is bearly a knight. Anyone looking to play something arcane? The dwarf will probably  have traps and lockpicking.

The only character idea I've got is a swashbuckler/cleric or swashbuckler/holy warrior... that I keep pushing around on and not making firm decisions about.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 18):

We have a holy warrior and a cleric already...

Yeah... I know which is why I was hesitating to mention my only "good" idea.



I've already got one mage, an a sage/weirdo... so I'm kinda wantin to avoid the "brainy" types.  Which is where Jednesa came from...  and Stenet was a pick up that is kinda refreshing (it's sometimes interesting playing someone that you didn't create) and isn't too brainy, buit also isn't completely stupid (which I keep forgetting I get frustrated with).

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 20):

Actually the Holy warrior is a dwarf as well. I would suggest the mage/psyco from the pit city, but his necromantic side may see that being a short partnership...

I'm already playing one about as arcane as we're likely to get, and one of those is plenty for me.  With a martial artist/mage, a one trick pony archer, and a mage whose father was from another dimension, I think my plate is full...

i like the idea of an arcane/swashbuckling type, with some necromancy... or maybe i'll restructure my witch idea, losing the earth, and healing spells, and replacing it with alchemy perhaps...

Alchemy is a lot less expensive that going halfsies on Druidism!

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 24):

Yeah, but necromancy working for a church who considers undead an affront may not work so well, unless it is clearly for removing them, but that would be priestly...and we have one.

Better fire (for Flaming weapon, etc) or earth magic, perhaps with a touch of acid...the Churchs domains are Death, Earth and Law, though you may need Water for Acid. That would work well with Alchemy, perhaps.

the haderum? they seem comfortable with undead. they certainly like to use them to make an example of folks...

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 26):

Really? Not what I have heard...GM, what is their stance on undead?

they parade them around to the public, and make them bear signs stating their crimes. punishments include not only an execution, but undead servitude is part of sentencing. the haderum is grim, indeed.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:34, Tue 18 July 2017.

That grimness comes from their religious philosophy concerning the soul and it's state after death:  The body and soul have a continual link after death, as the body suffers so does the soul (or at any rate they preach this and many believe it so it makes a really good stick to beat the masses with).

To this end it is HIGHLY ILLEGAL to create undead or muck about calling up dead souls for chats, regardless of whether or not certain Guilds or Nobles get up to these very sort of shenanigans (said Guilds probably have a charter allowing them certain flexibility, but your standard Joe McStreetdude does not).

However, as with most things, what the rich, powerful, or incharge get up to is often quite different than what we, the lowlies, can get away with.

I'm quite sure that any open Necromancers are highly regulated and licensed and don't ever do anything even remotely untoward.  Ever.  Not even a bit.





At least that's how I see it.  My take could be wrong.

Didn't Razakeel say he could and would raise a corpse as a zombie, if only the cultists didn't have something preventing it?  There must be some leeway, perhaps in that an ordinary necromancer's zombie only persists for a short time?

Yeah... but I suspect that Raz being a Guildie might have an exception clause... or maybe it's not as illegal as I think... or maybe Raz likes to flirt with danger.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 31):

The "tenure" perk allows it, and Selan and Dagon have it. The Hadereum does do "Death plus Hard Labor" but are very against free willed undead and encourage sending them on to their reward. They would certainly frown on half dead, like those created by crit successes on zombie or by way of the limited resurrection spell, and would support vampire and lich hunters. Razakeel would try to pass off a zed as either alive or tell it to play dead; he has skills but not license.

aha

Ah, so Raz just has a set of big brass ones.  I knew I liked him for some reason.

And here I thought it was the same reason I like him -- because he doesn't faff around with a bunch of excuses when a spell doesn't work, but doesn't mind sharing why.

That too.  And unlike Ludlow, Raz can keep his lip zipped.  He's an all-around good fellow to round out a party.

Iskander is spread a little thin at his start, but wait til he gets some points, and starts learning spells... in addition to his physical prowess.

Awards coming for the early state Of the Palace, carching up tomorrow

In reply to Narrator (msg # 38):

Welcome Ketil Deepwalker to the Hadereum thread- he is a Dwarf and works for the NDAS

Non-Disclosure Agreement Society?
National Dental Advisory Service?
North Dakota Academy of Science?
Naked Dwarven Artificer Salespersons?

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 40):

It's from the Hadereum thread: Northport Department of Aquaducts and Sewers. Though I wonder if Urrun (or Goran for that matter) could use some dental advice...

As long as you avoid the armored bits they could last a good while...high protein, low sugar diet ;)

Thank you.  The Naked Dwarven Artificer Salespeople will be calling soon.  *Lol!*

In reply to Ketil Deepwalker (msg # 43):

Select a portrait!

In reply to Narrator (msg # 44):

In the Lochs tomb, where did the phantom skull come from? I know the Lich is around somewhere... is that him?

Kirpich, as I read it, I suspect it slipped past Abominable Club.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 46):

Mancini has obviously not heard of the good cop, bad cop routine...or in this case bad Leprechaun!

In reply to Aoife (msg # 47):

But if it just appeared, then it was probably conjured. If it came in, AC should have been able to have a swipe. Hence my confusion (as a player, I am sure Kirpich saw what happened!)

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 48):

AC could probably see it, even with a perception of 9, but was only told to attack the bony things. So, for a "new" opponent, you need to give clear orders, and you didn't  see it until it sailed over AC's 4 foot height.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 49):

Ah, of course. Is this the same skull (Lich) we were dealing with earlier, or a new one?

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 50):

All of the flaming skulls are my minions
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In reply to Skeletal king (msg # 51):

Ah, right. More Target practice...

I would assume our Dwarven civil servant is still getting his sheet squared away?

In reply to Urrun (msg # 53):

Like any civil servant, he has mountains of Paperwork to do. The bureaucracy is ever-expanding to meet the ever-increasing needs of the ever-expanding bureaucracy...better watch he does not get sucked into the bureaucratic black hole created by that!

In reply to Hograth Podkarmen (msg # 54):

Might not be on today, hitting movies, museum

In reply to Aoife (msg # 47):

I apologize... I had already replied before I caught on.

As my wife gets closer to her delivery date, I am finding myself going several days between checking this forum.  Sorry about that.  I am attempting to check at least every couple of days.

No worries man.  I'll happily crash our adventure into a lightpost while you're away...

/thumbsup

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 58):

Nodwin - good luck to you and your family!

In reply to Narrator (msg # 59):

In 3e we did toxic necromantic damage, but now, someone had to make it burning...

</quote>
If your toxic damage is leaving a lingering burning sensation, they have a ointment for that...

In reply to flaming skull (msg # 60):

Skull spirits still do Toxic damage...

Good luck with the Birth, Nodwin, and the changes that follow...the first?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:47, Tue 25 July 2017.

Recommend you let your wife do the birthing and you just support ... a whole LOT!

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 62):

They put DF stats for flaming skulls that are just that- skull spirits that do burning damage instead of toxic. They still do the damage as if there was no DR, and can set things on fire, but as a result, they can also be thwarted with anti fire magic, as well as pentagram and turn spirit.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:40, Tue 25 July 2017.

In reply to flaming skull (msg # 64):

Fyi a map copy produced at skill 12-14 goes for $50 and takes an hour to transcribe. A fine map, at skill 16+ costs $250, and a very fine map (made with cartography 18+ and illumination 14+) costs $1000.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 65):

We eat rice. We are very fond of rice cakes...

Hmmm.

Okay... these don't quite match stats in DFs 1 (flat $100) or 4 (various rates dependent on stats, etc) however...


Too pressed for time to check on how it matches up with stats in 8, that gets a bit more involved with materials, qualities, etc, etc, etc... but probably goes 50, 100, 150 (based on bonus it provides to Scholars* and non-Scholars), then modded by mats and qualities.



* Characters who have the trait Book-Learned Wisdom can gain additional bonuses from particulalry detailed maps, tomes, scrolls, etc.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 67):

I was going from DF4's pricing.  As I recall it. Let me review, and I will correct everything.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:38, Tue 25 July 2017.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 68):

Ok
A sketchy map is $25 and has -1 to all rolls using it

an average map is $50

A map of a dungeon is double that.-so $100

A map of a really obscure site is tripple.

An annotated map is +$50 per effective point in area knowledge useable by a sage.


Maps of varying quality can be got in the guild

In reply to Oni (msg # 66):

At the Academy, I've eaten rice cakes, curried rice, rice pudding, puffed rice, rice in sushi, fried rice, rice flour pancakes -- and probably a dozen more ways I've forgotten.  I liked it better with fish or meat, but you take one little vow...

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 70):

I can provide the fish...just add grumpy Ogre!

Nope, don't bother.  Not on my account.  Took a vow, now I'm a vegetarian.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 72):

Aww, OK then. But it is not meat... it is just Fish!

Aqua-protein...not meat.

So... what about grumpy Ogres that are turned into rutabagas?

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 75):

Definitly need to learn that spell! Thoug I should have made the spell Salmon, not Tuna...much more tasty!

In Defiled Sanctuary, it's been a while since I posted, it appears the party split up, but with no mention if I stayed with the staying group or if I went with the going group.

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 77):

I think you could take your pick...

Broderick does what with what?  Jareth hasn't agreed to selling any of the maps on his person, since he has none for sale*.  He offered to copy his maps, for the 'standard rate'... and as far as I know, no one else in Juniors has a "proper" map.

Jocelyn was also mapping the route down into the cultist's cells, but that's only a few city blocks worth of tunnels... but if Brody wants to pay $100 for Joce's map (and she also thinks it's a swell idea), I won't say no nothin about it.



* Which yes, is a risk.  Carrying all his maps on himself at all times is a risk to losing them... but until 'yesterday' he was also effectively homeless.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:49, Thu 27 July 2017.

Oh man... I was just rereading the threads to make sure I had our loot list correct... and Jareth is such a lying asshole sometimes.



I can just imagine the grumbles...

Evaine:  "Ain't gonna be far at all..."
François:  "Just over to the Guild's Undercroft he says..."
Evaine:  "No ladder or stairs he says..."

Heh... aha... ahahahahaha.  Oh man.  Inadvertently such an asshole.   Weeeeeeee.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 80):

I will 'ave to remember that if I deal with him! What did the voices say about him again? Surely they can't ALL be wrong!

In reply to Gareth (msg # 81):

So sorry about defiled sanctuary! I hadn't  seen an update since my last. Getting right on it.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 82):

What would be Ulos chance of recognizing Szuzanna as being a member of Christines group that cleared out the trolls?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 83):
Fairly minimal. Haskell  was more forward, and Szuzana spent more time dealing with the severed parts of your leatherbeast (a slaved monstrous troll whose skin was regularly harvested for leather) than she spent fighting...

Beat a 5

In reply to Narrator (msg # 84):

Beat a 5?

i'm assuming beat a 5 on 1d? (a good roll)
This message was last edited by the player at 01:45, Sat 29 July 2017.

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 85):

Roll under a 5 on 3d6 to recognize a person lingering in the back of a crowd on tbe other side of a melee involving fireballs about two weeks ago.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 87):

Oh, Ulo needs to roll...that makes sense now.

I'm going to voluntarily fail that roll.  It would be a 'bad idea' for Ulo to recognize Szuzana as one of the "evil murderers" who killed her family right at this moment.

It... it would probably kick off a blood bath.

It's probably best to keep her focused on the three she's most likely to recognize, Christine, Chris, and Haskell.  All of whom are safely (for Ulo as well) out of town.


It's been what, 4? 5 days since the Winecellar Massacre?

In reply to Ulo (msg # 89):

You referring to the successful mission to relocate unwanted residents to make way for a thriving business venture?

"Relocate" is only a correct word if being used by a sociopath.... and a lying one at that.  There was no relocation effort... now if you want try claiming "eviction", you've got a leg to stand on.
This message was last updated by the player at 06:27, Sat 29 July 2017.

In reply to Ulo (msg # 91):

Now, Ulo was not built with vengeance in mind, and is not quite, shall we say, sharply focused, but if this cane to something, I would prefer that there be guild arbitration before any species of pvp activity. If Ulo was built obsessively and with bloodlust, I would fear for Marie.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:44, Sat 29 July 2017.

/spit

Heh.  Yeah...  she's not the deadliest of spell slingers or the most "goal orientated"...


Oh yeah, I agree to that.  Which is why it's just shouting and not say, splashing the entire room with acid and letting the chips dissolve where they may.

I figure if she fails a Bad Temper roll it'll be tiny fists flying before spells, since, well, she isn't a combat caster.

In reply to Ulo (msg # 93):

About that missing hand...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 92):

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Lol yes. Don't make me have to buy pfff that disadvantage!

Many large companies use the term ' relicate' in exactly the same manner as Christine in the third world... history is written by the victors!

Oh sure.  But we haven't proven you to be the victor yet.

Not sure Gorgath would appreciate that. Would likely be quite upset.

Makes me glad I'm not in the Guild Hall at present.  I'd rather deal with ogres.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 98):

Oh so makes me wish I was. "What do you mean, I missed one?"

No one would appreciate it.  Not even Ulo once she stopped being angry.  If she ever got the chance.  Room full of adventuring types?  yeah, she wouldn't survive that.




Oh ho, yeah.  If Christine or Marie were in the hall there definitely would be violence.
This message was last updated by the player at 16:53, Sun 30 July 2017.

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 99):

There were a bunch that ran out the back way... and one you thought charred who lived.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 101):

Back on in the morning

So the most flea-ridden dive bar and ... I don't even want to know what goes on in The Leather Mask.

Not even speculating.  Nope.  Nada.

haha, yeah the name gave me the same vibe. probably popular with the orc crowd. xD not as bad as The gag and Collar...
This message was last edited by the player at 01:04, Tue 01 Aug 2017.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 103):

We send you there if you are a naughty boy!

That sounds like it would be more a reward for the naughty than a punishment...

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 106):

Who said anything about punishment? We only talked about sending naughty boys there...

No Naughty Girls there? No Fun then....

In reply to Brodak (msg # 108):

The leather mask is where the tanners  (and some NDAS workers) go to drink. It reeks.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 109):

Be back on tomorrow

so a couple shadow elves, a couple humans, and an ogre, walk into a bar... (Observation = last post in wastrel's hope, sounds like the beginning of a classic "bar" joke. xD)

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 111):

What is this about shadow elves, the greatest elves of all time?

that makes me wonder about the elves of northport. I'm partial to high elves, myself.

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 113):

No, mountain Elves rule...and they are not evil either. Just ask the trolls...

Danos raises a bright blue eyebrow in agreement with Christine.

The thought of elves causes Brodak to scratch his ass ... they are often just a pain there.

Meh.  Elves are elves.  T'e only thing special about some o' t'em is t'ey flexibility.  It's astounding how t'ey can shove t'ey heads so far up t'ey own arseholes.

'Course same said about most people.

/looks around... sees all the other Elves...

Oh, ah... wait.  I mean t'e Elves is t'e best, t'ey piss fine Wine an shit out Lembas Bread.

Close call.  Almost broke t'e code.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 117):

Indeed, we were getting ready to send the lads to have a reeducation sessions with you. Or find some happy pills if the computer suggested it...

Our telescopic vision allows us to identify and avoid haters from a long distance :)

Elves... smelves.  I prefer dwarves myself.

Err... don't mind me; just stirring the pot.

I see little difference between any of the races of Northport, other than size and color.  I have a slight preference for Sahudese humans, but that's only because my mother is one.

In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 121):

Heaby day at work, Family thing, be catching up tomorrow

i just got my hands on gurps star wars 4e....

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 123):

I know of a few GURPs space games that have struggled. I run a GURPs 4e Traveller one here, but there are only about 3-4 other folk interested I know of.

Apaet from Tortuga, who regularly starts new games and then leaves them before the 1000 post mark. At least 2 games I can remember so far, one of which was also a GURPs Traveller one, and the other a Post-Apocalyptic one I just took over...

GURPS Star Wars? That just sounds lethal, heh...

In reply to Urrun (msg # 125):

We had a game with a pointless system for GURPS Star Wars at one point, but it kind of ran out of puff...

I would assume they recommend some cinematic qualities to help curtail the high tech weaponry?

In reply to Urrun (msg # 127):

Not required. GURPs handles UltraTech quite well. I use similar Tech in the Travellar game I run, and I don't think the weaponry gets out of hand. Get in the way of a ship-ship weapon, and you would be rolling up  new character, but I don't think that has happened. Though there was a few occasions when tanks and infantry and ship weapons all mixed it up...

Definitely needed for Star Wars.  Otherwise all those "just a flesh wounds" would be lethal.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 129):

Star Wars itself is Cinematic, but if you were playing a Storm trooper, it would not necessarily be so!

Generally, yes.  But I mean, "Yes, You Definitely Need To Add In The Cinematic Rules" if you are using GURPS as there are no offical GURPS Star Wars supplements.

Unless you are running an "inspired by" campaign like my Sengoku Jedi* Star Wars campaign which was considerably more 'gritty' (even though I can't help myself and always run using most of the Action rules**).

I feel the need to pimp Mailanka's Psi-Wars*** game right about here... it's a more "played straight" inspired-by Stars Wars setting.


* Yes, the Waring States of Jedi

** There wasn't so much more 'death' as it was more 'grey morality'.  Neither the Rebels nor the Empire were "Good" or "Evil", they were varying shades of both as befits a game built using tropes from Star Wars and the Sengoku Jidai period of Japan.  In fact I gave my Players the choice (as a group):  Do you side with the Rebels or the Empire at game start?  Since the campaign was literally set up to fit either (at least at the outset).

Of course they all choose Empire.  And of course they didn't all stay Empire as the game progressed and things got even more gray.

*** http://mailanka.blogspot.com/2...psi-wars-primer.html


If you're playing Storm Troopers in Star Wars that's a "Meat-Grinder" game where everyone brings 50+ pregen characters and see how many they go through per session.

Worse than Tomb of Horros.  At least in ToH the characters have a chance of surviving.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 131):

Interesting. Actually, you asked about what movies were like Star Wars, but not it. I actually thought of Firefly before you mentioned it, but Firefly is pretty much set in a universe that could be traveller. I would definitely say the Traveller and Star War universes are much closer to each other than to Star Trek, for example.

I agree.  Traveller feels like it sits in the middle of the two, a little of one, a little of the other.

I've found that a little bit of Ablative DR can be used to create a somewhat cinematic feel in certain games without HP getting too out of control and creating some other issues.  I used Ablative (and some semi-ablative) tough skin to run a pro-wrestling GURPS campaign and be able to do so without one or two moves ending a fight right away.

I had never made the connection, but yeah, Firefly and Traveller do share some thematic similarly.

I would think that Vacc Suits and other armor would be more prevalent than in the Star Wars setting...but I won't pretend to be an expert on either setting...hence why I thought that the blasters and light sabers would really havoc on unarmored characters.

They do.  That's why I mentioned above that you really need to flip some switches in GURPS (turning on a lot of cinematic rules) if you want to run Star Wars (and some tropes, like not allowing Force Users to just willy-nilly Light Sabering people in combat and Jedi mind Tricking everyone*).

Honestly, the Action line is perfect (specifically Action 2 and 3) for running Star Wars.



* Or you do what I did and allow those things, which makes for a much grimmer, darker Star Wars.

I can completely see how that would change some things.

"A squad of Imperial Stormtroopers bursts through the door"

"Quickdraw and fire"

Vs

"A squad of Imperial Stormtroopers bursts through the door"

"Run for the back door, full defense, try to use the others for cover!"

I feel like GURPS would handle Battlestar Gallactica pretty well.

In reply to Walter Goldman (msg # 138):

I think it would handle most of these well. I have run Cyberpunk, VtM, Horror (modern and CoC converted 20's) and a 3e version of Fantasy based on Otherwhere.org's now gone Advanced Grottoes & Goblins. I had the bug for this genre since 89.

I think the Galactica reboot is pretty close to Traveller, in some ways, too.

Jump drives (though they have much longer range, that could be house ruled with computer requirements and fuel efficiency improvements), no beam weapons (just freeze weapon development at nukes and autocannon), artificial gravity, starships that can land (some of them) -- and lots of grit.

Jump drives in tiny ships is another house rule -- just waive the 100T hull requirement.

a 100 T hull is pretty tiny ... when you add up everything needed, it's hard to get below that level and have a ship useful for anything.

Once again, a little house rule work on fuel efficiency, sizes of engines and computers, and you could get a Viper (looks like about 4-5 T by Traveller measurements; similar size to a Navy fighter like a Tomcat or Phantom II) that can jump.  This is mostly flavor -- you still have jump drives for distance, maneuver drives (with reasonable point-and-boost physics, aside from ignoring reaction mass requirements), ships are the fastest/only communication method over interstellar distances -- rebooted Galactica is more like Traveller than unlike.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 142):

In my Traveller game on this site I keep the 100 T limit, but that is more of a tactical decision to make Carriers still useful. Otherwise, each planet only needs to build hundreds of fighters and send them in a giant swarm, taking advantage of the fact that in Traveller there are some limitations on the number of weapons, because weapon sizes are pretty much standardized. This Limit counters that.

But I do have systems taking up much less than the 0.5 dTon space limit imposed by GURPs: Interstellar Wars ship design for small craft (<10 dTons). I have many small fighters of 6 dTons...Note, this system works with dTons, or displacement tones, rather than actual tons...this is actually a measure of volume rather than weight...but I am getting into way too much detail now, so I better stop.

Traveller always ran on displacement tons.  A "standard ton" for ship design purposes was the volume of a metric ton of liquid hydrogen (fusion fuel, hence a large fraction of ship mass and volume for long-jump vessels at Traveller efficiency levels) -- approximately 14.5 cubic meters (two 1.5 m squares, each 3 m tall, for deck plans).

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 144):

I just got a player request from a fellow I had to remove for irregular posting- the character he had was Kebrel Hoat, the patron of all of the original huniors. He wants to be the captain of a pirate fleet,possibly involving airships. While that is stirring, it is really beyond my scope. The sea is too big of a (wet) sandbox for me to tackle without making it a railroad, and I kinda have my hands full.

This brings up something I've mentioned before...

Can we get a list of who is playing who?

So it's easier to see if someone is MIA completely, or just not paying attention in one thread.

For instance, if I knew what other characters the Player of Dareos was playing I'd have an idea if he was MIA in all his threads, or if he's just not noticed his cues in the Defiled Snacktuary.

some people like anonymity... unless the players personality shines through, for every character, part of the game is not knowing who they are, cos people tend to treat players differently, than characters. i know the Gm knows what I mean.

The GM can tell when a player of multiple characters is AWOL... and he can handle it... we as Players don't need to get involved.

In reply to Mellarill (msg # 148):

I am starting  a list...

Sure.  I can see that.

There are specific arguments to be made for and against it.



Myself?  I repeatedly name out who I'm playing (Jareth, Jednesa, Stenet, Ulo - evileeyore on the GURPS forums, the Player behind the characters).  If someone decides they hate my style and want nothing to do with me, then they know what characters of mine to avoid.  I'm all for it.

I hope I differentiate characters enough that if someone gets upset over one, it isn't a problem with the others (see Grend, Oren, Jin*)... but... if someone identifies a problem they have with me, the Player, something endemic to my style, I am okay with them not wanting to associate.  Likewise, if I discover a thing I know will cause issues for me*, then I'd like to be able to avoid associating in the future.

However, I'll accept the "rules of anonymity" to cover others  (note, the only 'pestering' I've ever done was short lived and in good humour)... if those are actually in place.  I don't know, our Narrator has been vague on that in the past.




* Not so much calling out that he had a problematic style, but rather that he had a distinct style.  One which was aggressive about displaying his character's worst flaws, which is great in many roleplaying settings.  I stand with it!

However... in a 'team-focused' play (like DF) it's... a bit not-so-good when those flaws are ones that will cause friction between the characters.  Friction enough to maybe cause characters to come to blows.  Which is against the OOC rules (intra-party combat has it's place, that place is in the Arena).

I have a ... "no retreat, no surrender" type of personality.  Each of my characters would have reacted strongly to his (much as pretty much everyone did).  In some cases that could have lead to or prompted character combat (as you, Iksander, know well).

So ... I got lucky and never ended up in a party with him (I was avoiding it only in that I avoided creating a Sahud facing character for the Sahudese thread).

Just as I'll deliberately avoid having Ulo and Christine ever meet up.  Not I have a problem with Christine's Player (they are doing a wonderful job!) but because I wouldn't even check Ulo's disads, it would be all attack-attack-attack-attack-attack until one of them was dead.  At least until this situation get's resolved in some manner.  Probably using talking.  And Diplomacy.  And economics.  And no where near enough blue-haired fire wizard elves in pools of acid conflict resolution strategies.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 150):

I am good with "A and B have same player"

That's leaving a lot of work to be done on the definition of "involvement".

Example:  Dareos.


If I know Dareos's Player is still actively posting in threads as other Characters, then I will chill and just give him time to catch up.  Maybe make another post calling out attention to whatever it is Stenet needs Dareos to respond to (which I have done).  If I know the Player is actively engaged, I won't wait seven days between them.  I'd have posted a few (probably exactly two) days later.  Shorter if the Player is very active (posting several times a day).

But... I was unsure.  To avoid giving the appearance of being rude In Character I waited a week.  Imagine how it would have looked had I posted every day... it'd look like Stenet was down there wheedling away at him!

Imagine:

Stenet:  Hey Dareos!
Stenet:  Dareos!
Stenet:  Dareos hey listen!
Stenet:  DAREOS!
Stenet:  HEY!
Stenet:  Hey listen!  Dareos!


(That, that seems kinda funny now.  Maybe I should have.  Heh.)





Okay, cool.

I think it might have been funny too...

I have no problem with folks knowing who I play (those who pay attention likely already know anyway; I occasionally forget to change the default character when posting in the threads).  I've already posted in the list thread.

Conversely, aside from players who post as if they enjoy provoking other characters, I don't much care who plays who.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 154):

Let me reach out to Dareos player...

I agree it would be funny.  Even to the point of running up the stairs and shaking him

"Hey!  Are you with us?"

Sorry for the delay.  I've become too accustomed to not being involved since my fighting skills are rarely needed and if we're doing well, my healing skills are rarely needed and I needed to focus on other things, so my check ins have become less frequent.

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 156):

There us going to be a bit of both soon

S'all good.  Just started to worry that we'd lost ya.

Apologies if the word "medallion" is eye-searingly obvious in that last post... but just drawing attention to it.

It blends in wonderfully.

Hard to see actually.

Yep.

I can only go so far in describing things without a roll being made. What is used fine clothing wirth again?


Also-medusaids are from Technomancer.

DF 8 Treasure tables, pg 17 for various garments (and jewelry).  Probably less than 40% if they are still soiled at point of sale.

Good thing there's a cleric around that can cast Clean on such an item before you try to sell it.  Donations to the future Temple of Sethygg are always appreciated.  :P

Nothing seems to have happened in Sneaking In -- did the sneakers get lost?  The rest of us at the Silver Jade Palace are waiting for the earth shattering kaboom panic and chaos...

If only he were conveniently located near the Guild instead off Cleaning an old abandoned abbey.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 165):

Leave my healer alone...I am quite happy with him where he is!

I'm just sayin... he could be here cleaning crap out of the pants of this dead guy instead of cleaning crap off shrines and windows...


Granted, I bet the window cleaning business pays better than this pants cleaning business.

Apparently I need to open a cleaning service in the guild hall.  LOL

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 168):

Starts as a cleaning service, finishes up being a Temple!

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 169):

I will be posting tomorrow- will catch up

In reply to Narrator (msg # 170):

30,000 posts...impressive!!!

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 171):

For those who need to know, fireproof underclothing is better handled by spell than by alchemy. While alchemist's aprons and or the fire resistant robe worn by ninja aware of fire using enemies, asbestos undergarments do worse than itch, and only have advantages over the fireproof spell when faced with dispell magic.


I might be a bit scarce for a bit, working out some issues at home.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 172):

Acknowledged, but what about the cost?

There is no "Fireproof" enchantment*.  The best you can do in GURPS is thus:

Staff/Wand/Jewelry of Resist Fire - $16,000
Salamander Amulet - $4,920
Alchemical Fireproofing - +4 CF


* Fir clothes or armor.  You can Fireproof an area.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:30, Sat 12 Aug 2017.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 174):

Is the alchemical fireproofing permanent for a +4 CF? That seems to differ from what the GM suggested...

looks like photobucket is trying to extort money by not letting us embed images to jazz up our profiles, unless we pay to enable 3rd party hosting. wow. what a bunch of bullshit. lol i gotta pay a monthly fee for that? how 'bout kiss my ass, photobucket? xD

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 174):

There was a specific item for sale, alchemists robes, that cost $150 iirc.

I am again recalling 3e; earlier iterations of this game had a furemage paying off debts to the guild casting fireproof. I thought it could be cast on objects, even if not as an enchantment.

And I'm in!

How are you good folks doing?

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 178):

"We are quite well, thank you.  May Sethygg's loving coils embrace you, newcomer."

OOPS!  Sorry, Dareos is nicer than I am, but he sometimes IC's in the OOC.

Welcome.

That's exactly what I told 'em.  FWIW, imgur provides third party hosting for free, doesn't even require registering, or you can use Flickr if you have an account.  Can't say how long it'll be before one of them (especially Flickr) starts extorting, though.

Welcome, Haveron.  You look amazingly like Snorri.  Might be a good thing he's out of town, else folks would mix the two of you up.

I think he styles himself after me ;)

Meant to reply before work. But wanted to look some stuff up which took longer than I had...




Two things:

1 - Yes.
2 - This was something I developed for a thread on the GURPS forums about Giving Cloaks Some Love:  http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=142345

It was well received and Narrator tentatively approved the stuff in the thread for use.

I was trying to look up where I got the +4 DF from, but I think it was one part math and one part "feels right". Note, it doesn't make one immune to fire damage... it just means your clothes won't catch on fire!




Alchemist’s Garb is $225 and it isn't fireproof in the least:




There's a lot of nonsensical ignoring of the rules in 3e, particularly in the Magic Items books.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 183):

Ok. Then I guess Gareth is looking for basic armour lining with fireproofing. Next question is, can he afford it?

In reply to Gareth (msg # 184):

Yet more reasons I take something for my absentmindedness... the mitigated part barely seems there. Lets see if I can get to everyone this afternoon.

Well... technically it's fireproof... based on a RAW interpretation only when protecting the wearer from a skill failure while extracting (frex) the fire glands from a Salamander (or like any fire breathing/exhuding creature).

Since that's primarily what it's meant for, protecting the wearer from their own Alchemy and Organ Harvesting (and probably Hazardous Materials (Biological/Chemical)) skill failures.


Jareth's garb/armor was 'given the treatment' mostly to protect it from the sewers...  and to make it easier to clean should he fall in something nasty.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 185):

And maybe not. I have been having some home issues, that need me to take time away from the screen. Sorry folks, it has been a rough week.

good luck, friend. take care of biz, we'll still be here!

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 188):

Thanks! Btw we may be  onboarding another player.  Hoping to add Haveron to whatever the troll trading group next does.

Hope everything gets well GM, and thanks· Looking forward to getting involved with the game ··..

:)

In reply to Narrator (msg # 189):

You mean my group?

In reply to Gareth (msg # 191):

Or mine?

Is there gunpowder/blackpowder weapons in Northport?

Not that I've seen, but I've only been here a little over two years player time, or about three-four weeks game time.

there's fireworks and stuff i think. if there is black powder, the sahudese invented it! ^_^

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 195):

The only black powder is in the form of nagatepo and fireworks, both imported products of Sahudese alchemy. The secret has not been shared, and weaponized rockets have not been introduced; firecrackers are considered a religious supply item, available from specific shamen.

Alright, was just curious :)

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 197):

As a reminder, all die rolls here are with 3d6 or as per damage amount. We do not use d20.

Too Bad ... 3D20 improve my odds good!

Makes your damage output more spiky too...  and the incoming damage as well.

Who said incoming get 3D20? I not play fair for cheap wages.

let me know when i'm good to go :)

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 202):

Srill onboarding your partner to be. Check in at the Wastrel's hope, several folks fresh from adventure are there.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:39, Tue 15 Aug 2017.

https://ctrlq.org/images/
great, free image hoster ^ no registration required, either.
for those who like to represent their characters a little better. take that, photobucket!
This message was last edited by the player at 21:05, Tue 15 Aug 2017.

Thanks, Isuel!  I've bookmarked it.  For now, Imgur is doing what I need, but one never knows...

contingency contingency

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 206):

Say hello to Berry, a wizard!

In reply to Narrator (msg # 207):

Hello Berry. Do you taste yummy?

What is your philosophy on magic, Berry?

In reply to bear (msg # 208):

berry funny.

Welcome to the Northport.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:13, Wed 16 Aug 2017.

In reply to Broderick Leibert (msg # 210):

We lost Kentil?

I was just wondering the same thing.

"Druck, little Ginger turn me into a newt!"


"I got better."




.





FIFMontyPython

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrn herrrrrrrrrrr!!!

Are we not men of science?

First we must determine if Aoife weighs the same as a duck.

Say, Ales, you might want to reread the description for Deflect Energy.  Magic, p. 83.

It's a  "blocking" spell, meaning it's one you can cast in "no time" as a reaction to an attack, and it's instantaneous in effect, meaning you can't keep it on for a while.  It's intended to take the place of a dodge or parry, but against an energy attack (like fireball, lightning, etc.).

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 215):

I am sure she is about Duck size...try to burn her and you will need to duck!

Edit: Damn spell checker...corrected!
This message was last edited by the player at 09:57, Thu 17 Aug 2017.

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In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 218):

Damn autocorrect is just not PG rated...corrected!

Hello everyone!

What's all this about a Duck? Are we turning people into ducks? Because I haven't learned that spell yet.

Welcome aboard berry :)

rabbits! chickens! cows, and ducks!...turn the lights on! fiat lux!!!

Talk about an old spell.

Should we move forward with A matter of concern for the Hadereum?

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 223):
the oldest! lol, i was waiting for somebody else to get the reference!

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 225):

Fond of that old Cantrip... I have not heard from Ketil for days. I suppose so.

looks like their breaching some barrows.

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 227):

Read over in search of the eye.

Ketil Doesn't sound like my kind of Character, but with under Junior House and People of the pit ending, there should be new characters that could be hired.

Johan can go marry his troll queen... he wasn't all that much fun to play (for me anyway) I could gin up a new character if that would help.

In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 229):

I was intending for that to happen. Lets give Ketil til Monday

In reply to Narrator (msg # 230):

Then Johan can become Kentil. Does Berry have a party to join? Not sure if we have a mage with us...

Wait, ending??  Oh, well, Juniors need to get on to something more important, like cleaning up other parts of the basement...

Yeah, I remember that old, old, spell, ending with plenty of bright light to see the big bottle of dishwashing soap sitting in the seat of a small carriage that lacks a place to hitch the horse.

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 232):

Looking to have Berry join with Haveron and Amelia and any looking to join with them, for example, Gareth, Gorgath and anyone else free.

Also Lacuda is still in her tub. Gorgath, could you take her to the docks?

In reply to Narrator (msg # 233):

Gareth will be happy to join her whan he gets some underwear. Or before, if she is cute...but he would not want to make Sorcha jealous!

can dwarves see in the dark, in DF?

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 235):

Dwarves have Night vision 5

i see

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 237):

No, I see...you are in the dark!

i'm more than man, so i have a few tricks up my sleeve.

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 239):

Out with the missus back tomorrow

And I see as well in the night as you, Hograth.

Did anyone else here back the DF RPG Kickstarter at the PDF level?  Just curious who else has the new rules now.

As Gorgath is just milling about, scaring the newbies, he'll oblige.

Besides, I think he can carry the tub by himself.

Thanks Gorgoth.  It seems Ulo has forgotten her new friend even exists in her excitement over seeing old friendly face.

I just got my copy of DFRPG Magic Items.

It has Resist Fire ($3,000/lb) and Resist Acid ($1,000/lb) as armor/item enchantments.

Triple cots to resist Essential Acid (Alkahest).
This message was last edited by the player at 07:38, Sat 19 Aug 2017.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 245):

Just got mine as well. Will be putting into use.

DF as in GURPS dungeon fantasy?

Can you guys link?

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 247):

They haven't put them up for sale yet. We were in the Kickstarter. Sadly, I  did not go all in on the hardback plus pdfs so I am only getting stretch pdfs. Waiting on shipment before implementation

In reply to Narrator (msg # 248):

May be catching up later, movie and bbq with the missus, last night was the Whitney, and walkabout.

DFRPG - Dungeon Fantasy Roleplaying Powered by GURPS
http://www.sjgames.com/dungeonfantasy/



Ditto.


I'm mildly annoyed at the change to Slamming... but if it takes into account SM, then Jednesa will still be Slam optimized.

I'm working out how I'm going to change my own DF campaign (in addition to a location change).

So an important question for you.  How are you going to deal with non-standard races?  Dark Ones and Fauns for example.

I'm probably going to allow some of the existing characters to move to the new game, but not all.   And I won't be allowing new PCs to use those races (no more Celestials or Air-Infused in my game!)


From a quick once-over, Slams look to be about the same and take SM into consideration.  I haven't done a side-by-side though.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:17, Sat 19 Aug 2017.

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 251):

Which game is yours, Dareos?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 252):

I've been running a serialized tabletop DF game since 2011 at local (Phoenix, AZ) events and conventions.  I'm actually going to StrategiCon in L.A. the first weekend of September and I'm running it twice there.

I track the episodes in a Facebook group.  I've run 81 sessions thus far.  Was hoping to hit 100 before retooling for the new ruleset and setting, but that's not going to happen.

In reply to Dareos Madrigar (msg # 253):

Ahh, sounds cool, but from Aus I wont be checking them out any time soon. I am not on Facebook either...

Slam in Basic (and thus regular DF) is (HP x Move)/100=dice of damge.  Size only comes into it as a factor of "higher SM means more HP".

From what I've heard the new DFRPG Slam rules are just a chart look up, and that chart is the Speed/Range chart.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:15, Sun 20 Aug 2017.

When are the copies of DF being sent out to backers?

I'm curious to see some of the artwork.

In reply to Walter Goldman (msg # 256):

PDFs have been sent to the backers who added PDFs.

The print copies probably won't be for another month at least (but I don't have any actual inside knowledge).  They're due to hit retail in early October, so backers should have them before that.

I vaguelly recall we were originally supposed to get them in August (in time for Gencon) but then they got held back at least once.

I just checked the thread, looks like boxes are shipping in October.

Oh... I'll have to check for pdfs!

In reply to Walter Goldman (msg # 259):

Be back tomorrow crazy day at work, plus overtime

I'll post a reply soon (as soon as i wake up) and keep it going! Sorry for the delay

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 261):

Just so you know, I have plot protection. If I am struck down,  Ales will have another enemy...
This message was last edited by the player at 15:10, Wed 23 Aug 2017.

i was wondering how that would work, if we all killed off his disadvantage.

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 263):

If not paid off in points, they keep coming.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 264):

And leaving cool stuff when they die? I WANT that disad!

Why is everyone picking on me all of the sudden? :P

Certainly, Ales will have another Enemy -- but we'll have one less person between us and the casino.  Perhaps Bresnark will have the sense to pack up his created warrior and flee instead of standing and dying.

OOC: Which spell is Bresnek using exactly, Narrator?  Golem, Doppelganger, Malefice, or something else?  I only ask because I passed the Thaumatology roll.

OOC: it's the spell "create warrior". i believe it's illusion, or creation schools.

Wait Enemies leave cool laying about when they die?  I need to get out and make me some Enemies!

I also succeeded on the Thaumatology roll, but have heard nothing back from the GM.  The roll may have become moot once the spell result was visible (but we should have gotten the Thaumatology result in time to react).

I've been assuming it was Create Warrior as well, but I don't think there's a reliable way (other than experience with Bresnark) to know whether it's a Brute or a regular warrior.

In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 271):

The spell was create (brute) warrior.

Folks, I have an art show tomorrow evening  and I  will mot get to post today ad I am painting a bunch of cthulhu to sell at the lovecraft themed bar I am showing at. I should be able to post tomorrow atvwork and all weekend. Thanks for bearing with me.

NP.  Watch out for those cultists; you can't trust most of 'em.

Okay, Brute Warrior it is.  Extra strong, not too bright, and two small axes.

In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 273):

Also slammed out of the way by Jin's table kick.

Keep in mind, if you crowd Ales, folks start disbelieving.

from what I'm gathering about the internets, it looks like the new Slam rules are some sort of ST+Move thing, so since ST takes into account Size*, I'm probably going to be happy with the new rules.


* Generally speaking, as bigger creatures tend to also be stronger creatures.

Are we using the "Getting Ready to Go" stuff from Dungeon Fantasy 2? And if so what are the guidelines for it? I may have forgotten to grab "personal basics".

Well, that's a "Berry" big problem.

HA!

Ok. I'll show myself out.

That is a very good question....  I look forward to the answer (though I think Narrator has allowed people to do that in that in the past when they've had a day or so to prep, I don't know, my characters have pretty much all just piled in full steam).

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 278):

I would have joined in the conversation, but Gareth is running of to prepare...

FWIW, technically, a rappel doesn't require a wall, even a low-tech body rappel (rope from above runs under one thigh, across the chest and over opposite shoulder, then down to the braking hand, braking done by pushing the braking hand under the unroped thigh to drag the rope along the back) can be done in free space.  There's a hazard of falling out of the sling in a body rappel, but it's much safer and easier than trying to slide down a rope with just hand or hands and feet to grip the line.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 280):

I stand corrected. Still need some climbing rolls.

Those without absent minded can divert funds to include basics, only Gareth has none due to the circumstances of his incarceration.
Berry, Make an IQ roll at +2, or see if your valet has a spare...

Having the perk :Standard Operating procedure: always has freshly restocked and replaced equipment means never having to bring it up, thos is a function of cost of living

We're those climbing roll requests for the Hadereum group?

In reply to Urrun (msg # 282):

Yes please

In reply to Narrator (msg # 283):

The illusion shell no longer serves its purpose as the actions do not match...

^https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XTpCwicwE^

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 285):

I might not be posting this evening,I have been bloodying my knuckles punching out the faulty computers at work (having to reboot twice for each case due to server freeze...) and I need to be more present at home.

Goodnews is a returning player, formerly Zeelzeel Shadowspear and Mythos Songau.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 286):

He is looking to bring in a rogue type so The wastrel cre doesn't need Mischa, unless Sorsha is going to be active there.

I want the cabinet maker... ifnhe is a wood worker he might be able to.build ships ;)

that's apples to oranges, really.

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 289):

I am a henchman. If Sorsha isn't playing, I can't play

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 289):

Oh hi, what thread are we suppose to be in?  :)

I don't thibnk we're in one yet - not properly anyway... just preluding to our adventure in the Wastrel's Hope

Actually, not just apples and oranges, more like expecting a watchmaker to be able to build a car.  Even if (big, BIG if) able to default the skills at substantial penalty, won't have the tools or materials.

lol... exactly what i meant... i just didn't wanna sound so bludgeoning. xD

Yea, i don't agree.

Maybe I should ask the 'wizards' instead.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:13, Fri 01 Sept 2017.

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 295):

Sorsha is in the Wastrel's hope. Sorry.

Enjoyed a day out with the missus, picknicking and such. Be back on tomorrow.

Narrator, do you use the Impulse Buys rules from either Basic or Power-Ups 5?

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 297):

The impulse buys rules with the misses are always in effect...

So we have three mages in the Wastrels Hope now?

There can never be too many mages!

At least now they might be able to do what they promise, eh Berry?

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 299):

Gareth only promises to burn things! He will keep it to, given half a chance...like him to show you?

Go ahead,

I got my ale. It'd be good to have a wizard that likes to blow some stuff up :)

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 301):

"I will blow stuff if I can, but mostly I like to burn stuff. And create food from time to time..."

He gives a little gesture, and some rice and vegetables appear on the table, some of which he starts to eat.

"Haff shome..." he offers through a mouthful.

[Private to GM: Rolled 11 under skill. He ould make it rather spicy or fiery, as might be expected! Can the Cook spell be used to simultaneously make it tasty?]

In reply to Gareth (msg # 302):

You do know this is Ooc...

Dont stifle the creativity!

Takes some food and nom noms "Mmm mmfggooodd"

:D

Ah sweet a second food mage! This means I won't be responsible for feeding the whole party!

Fun Fact: If you use food magic to turn the dungeon walls into food you can eat your way through the dungeon! I recommend cotton candy because it has the highest volume/meals ratio. They also are a great way to start combat. Just turn your opponents sword into cookies!

Actual Question: Should I assume spells with a cost by unit like Create Water and Create Food has a minimum of one unit?

Also how much in the way of healing are wizards allowed to take? I know it says anything thats another college or a prereq for another college, but I think that's everything. Hell, Resurrection is a Necromancy spell!
This message was last edited by the player at 16:17, Mon 04 Sept 2017.

By RAW?  Zero.  Technically*.

The best is to use Pyramid 3-60 Dungeon Fantasy III article Wizardry Redefined which reworks the prereq chain for spells that need to be reworked.

If necessary (like you don't have the magazine and don't wish to buy it) I can PM you the list of re-prereqed spells.



* In practice however, the Narrator has been allowing for us to take the Charm Perk, and then a single spell (or two or three, with two or three Perks) that fits to theme.

For instance Ulo, a Troll'wife' [1] 'Witch' [2], has Steal Energy and Steal Vitality [3] and will be picking up Share Energy [4] and Share Vitality as that fits to theme.


1 - She's unmarried.  For any eligible bachelor troll guys out there.  She's young and hungry... (and ugly as the day is long, someone done beat her with the burning ugly stick).
2 - Witch is a term of .. art?  She's a Wizard Harry!  And almost a Druid.  Almost.
3 - In my book Steal Vitality is totes a healing spell.  Just sayin.
4 - Share Energy is a Wizard spell.  Share Vitality is not.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 306):

Charms nonwithstanding, a straight up "Witch" usually has Magery1 and Power investiture 1, (usually in druid) or Wild Talent with spell retention, even at 125pt level.  In a way, using an Initate/Adept or Apprentice/Priest templates from DF 15 will get you something like the old Bishop  class, from Wizardry! (Funny thing, the Nintendo version of that, which I recently purchased, calls that hybrid class a Wizard rather than a Bishop)... for those inquiring, the Bishop of Sonne is a Veteran Treasure Hunting Initiate Adept. Yes, like other "name level" types he is clocking in at 500 points, but busy with a crusade someplace, which is why he is hiring adventurers not of his faith to clear the abbey...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 307):

Oops, sorry, wrong thread. Posted in the right one this time. Berry, the dungeon walls may work, but I doubt they will hold the sword still for long enough!

Worth noting that without any extensions, DF does allow wizards to learn Lend Energy and Recover Energy, both Healing college, because a wizard without Recover Energy is like a battery powered toy without spare batteries.

So, what is happening at Westrel's?


[Private to GM: Is someone else controling Mythos at the moment?]

In reply to Shroud (msg # 310):

The Wastrel's Hope is a dive bar frequented by a league of amateur dart
throwing teams, oddsmen and floating card games. Known for some foul ale
and recently, good fortified wine. A group is forming now.

Over in the guild, Mythos Songau has, along with several dwarves and
kobolds, upgraded the winch descending into troll country into a semi
stable elevator platform on the anticipation of trade. There is further
talk of walling up a section of that area, so as to secure it and separate
it from the undersewers of little Shevnia, but that may require permits
and a bribe or three...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 311):

A group apparently with three mages!

I keep shaking my head at the Winecellars crew... they are Ogres.  Ogres.

Even if they agree to be decent and docile types... eventually one of them is going to decide one of Du Claire's servants (or an errant sewer maintenance worker) is tasty looking and decide no they really wanted take in for dinner... or they'll get it into their thick heads that they are strong enough to do whatever they please.  These guys will need a wrangler that is stronger or scarier than they are for any sort of long term deal to work.

I mean sure, we've a couple of decent Ogres in the Guild*, but those are the rare exceptions.



* Gorgath.  Strong Claire.  A few half-ogres.  Can't think of any others off the top of my head.

On the other side, Jareth, we've got an administrator, a leprechaun, a fairly half-ass martial artist (whose magic has turned out to be almost useless, so far), and a shadow skulker.  Unless I'm forgetting someone

I'm not even sure what made us think we could take on a single ogre, never mind more than one.  The ability to kick a nine-footer in the head didn't do all that much good, and now that I'm reading Power Blow correctly, it's virtually useless in combat unless you have an inhuman skill level.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 314):

On the other hand, turning them into Tuna and feeding them to my pet python works wonderfully well! I think the long tern effects of that make them very peaceful...

Oh, don't get me wrong.  I don't envy your predicament at all.  The Juniors would be fighting a running away battle if we were down there in your place.

This is one of them there "If only the right crew were there this'd be an easy solve", but ya gotta work with what ya got.




I could be completely wrong of course, they might jsut go for some sort of deal...  And Jareth's inclination would also be to talk (but then he's 1/3 Agent and 2/3 Sage)... but yeah.  Aoife should just keep on fishin.  ;)

Now, don't give me that "running away battle" stuff.  You've seen me shoot.  And I don't much care how tough their skin is, their eyes are still soft.

Oh eye, you'da counted for one.  T'en Brodak, Mel, Joce, an Nodwin another... but in that scrum one o' us woulda dropped.  T'en t'ere'd be t'ree to four more Ogres deal with...

It'd be bad battle for us.  Just bad.

Less we got serious good tactics on our side an lotsa luck.  Lots of luck.  Like all of it.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 314):

You missed the barbarian with the 2 handed sword...
I was expecting a full on battle, not successful intimidation by fright check!

In reply to Hilerno Orison (msg # 319):

Damn 13 active threads...

I'd be totally down for a full on battle.


Lets do this. I already got a squad together.
This message was last updated by the player at 17:13, Wed 06 Sept 2017.

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 321):

You have a healer, Haveron?

Dont think so.. but then, who needs healing? I'm not planning on getting cut up too badly.
:)

Healers are welcome of course... but mostly for their hangover cures :)

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 323):

Should just check, the group coming back from the pit...are they reforming at all, or is this where the remainder from them go?

Yep, I forgot the barbarian.  Sorry.  GM has 13 threads, I've only got three, but I declined adding another character for the new groups because three is enough for me.

Still, the list I gave, plus a barbarian, probably still wouldn't account for five ogres in a face-on battle, even if one is a youngling.  If you can't beat 'em in a fight, try not to get into a fight.

Yer own damn fault for running a good game... and starting so many quests!

Hear, hear!