In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 779):

Time to look at the people you are hanging out with...

Wasn't including Jareth in the 1/4th... even if he can fake it on occasion.  ;)

Want Respect I get it  He hefts his axe.

Wow, Amazon's Silk browser sucks even more than most Android browsers.  On top of that it completely rejects my hardware keyboard...  Off to get Firefox or Chrome.

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 783):

Did Mario notice on that last post that she got a headache even if she passed the fright check, or did Clarence misread that?

I'd advise skipping Firefox as well, last I used it, it was so locked down as to be almost useless.

After a long winded, unexpected and unwanted time away, Gorgath* should be back to posting.


_{*This also includes the assassin charming Astra Black, but he's off-screen}

In reply to Gorgath (msg # 786):

Hooray!

I'll double check that, but the fright check was only for those with Thaumatology skill.  Mario is as ignorant of magic as he is of lots of other things the Brothers used to teach about (because they were wrong!).  Main difference is, they didn't teach anything about magic, so he doesn't think he knows anything about it, either.

And, um, Clarence?  Mario's a man...  ;)

Good to see you back.



Don't you also run Grimbo?

I kinda miss Grend, Jin, and Quint. that player could be a little trifling sometimes, but he made things interesting.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:52, Sat 23 Feb 2019.

Ugh, not me.

Virtually every post came across as "You're not doing it right, here's the proper way."  Both in and out of character.

By the time he left, he was starting to learn, I think -- Jin had gotten almost to the point he was tolerable, after Sakemoko took him to task in character...  Before that, though, it was a clear-cut case of My Guy Syndrome, coupled with a player who liked to build That Guy...

lol! yeah, he was trifling.

Agreed.  But I still feel I missed out on something by not having Jednesa in play early enough to get a sparring match with Grend...

;)

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 793):

Jednesa would be able to pick him lup and smash him like Hulk with Loki
"Puny orc!"


I lost a good player in Hitomi during the Oren/Hare Atreu fight, and it is further one of the reasons I don't tolerate pvp. Big issue developed about using social skills on other players, one that still irritates me... if you can inspire with leadership, you can intimidate too. You can play it as being irritated at the person displaying agression, AND you cannot make people act against their advantages/disadvantages, like seducing someone who is ace, for example. Sex appeal only results in a positive reaction, maybe infatuation, for example.

It is still kinda hard to deal with someone whose paper character is charismatic when the player is abrasive though.

Maaaaaybe...  Grend was a more skilled martial artist than Jednesa.  But yeah, if she got her hands on him it would be over.  I just wanted to hear the lamentations of the Player when his "No one can beat a Real Man Orc(TM)" Character finally got mopped up...





The way I deal with that in my home games is the same way I deal with NPCs using social skills on PCs (and vice versa):

A Social Influence skill will only at worst part impart penalties to the Character (PC or NPC) if the Character goes against the direction of the influence (Influencing the PCs Basic pg 359).



Nothing more.  If one PC uses Sex Appeal/Intimidation/Diplomacy/Fast Talker/etc on another and the victim says "Nope, your sexiness means nothing to me" then the victim would suffer a penalty based on the MoS on actions they take against the 'Influencer'.  I wouldn't tell them they have feelings for them, or have to be nice to them, or anything else.

This does get tricky when it's one Character lying to another, but I just hope good RP rules the day rather than me having to intervene somehow as a GM...
This message was last edited by the player at 23:37, Sat 23 Feb 2019.

Good thoughts there. I like the approach.

Well, Clarence is none too bright, and with his fine looks and social skills, he can't be too picky!



Lol, probably a good thing he did not try to seduce Christine then! If he went for the kiss, I would say the 15d Fire breath would be pretty much an automatic hit to the face, would it not?

But social skills are the hardest in PC v PC, especially when the player is radically different from the character (and does not think it is that way!)

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 795):

I think applying the penalty to contrary actios is the way to go, much like throwing a -4 to rolls for phobic characters. It makes it easier when someone is like "I don't care what their charisma is, I kill them."
That should only be as effective as "I don't care that it is dark and they are wearing plate mail and have a defensive spell, I hit them with my axe."

Gotta roll with penalties boss.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:10, Mon 25 Feb 2019.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 798):

Would penalties apply if acting in line with phobias, as the example above, or would that give a bonus?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 799):

Phobias blow your focus. If the object of your phobia is present, you are at -4 on all rolls, even if trying to kill the object of your fear. Ever see someone afraid of waterbugs try to kill one? Usually they scream and run, but have trouble looking directly at the target when hitting it with a shoe. They hate it, and want it dead, but are not as focused as someone with intolerance and bloidlust.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 800):

I see. So would an attempted Kiss trigger coitaphobia, or just sight of certain organs?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 801):

Someone proposing a kiss would be will+2, a peck on the cheek in greeting would be -1. Someone embracing you and kissing, as would someone advancing and giving a lurid description of intention would be a straifght roll, just like seeing a graphic  sculpture. Walking in n a couple under a blanket would be-1, without the blanket -2, with an invitation to join in -3, and a roman orgy -4

What I'd like to know is if some Bard used all their bonuses and Sex Appeal skill on Christine and her MoF was like, -10, how would this affect her apropos the "And Christine would just Fire Breath him when they goes in for the kiss".

Clearly, Christine has a phobia and would seek to avoid the Kiss.  However, a penalty of -10 on her actions would be pretty difficult to overcome in the "she struggles to escape the clutches of the kissing Bard" department.


Especially if later the Bard uses all their Diplomacy to become friends with her.  Having been traumatized by The Kiss, Christine (the character) is well within her rights to never like the Bard, but also would be constantly hampered by penalties to actually act against them?

This sounds like a great new novel, straight off Northport Presses in 2019.

I know I would love to see how long the Bard lasts before Christine unleashes fire breath and fury.