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Out of Character 8.

Posted by NarratorFor group archive 0
Rosewood
player, 24 posts
Pixie
Wizardling
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 19:14
  • msg #466

Re: Out of Character 8

Narrator:
Well,shit. I just found out that they took the +1 to Basic Speed out of Combat Reflexes when 3e became 4e! I am 15 years late on that!


Should that not be.  House rule.  We keeping the 3e rule of +1 to Basic Speed from of Combat Reflexes.  Unless anybody has issue it it.

he he...
Oly
player, 1143 posts
Badly disfigured face
Rank 2 Guild badge
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 19:29
  • msg #467

Re: Out of Character 8

I think it was supposed to make you act sooner, so they give a +1 or +2 to initiative now. does what was intended more logically now.
There are some concepts in 3e I much preferred ... Aware rather than Detect now, the first is passive, the second requires you to activate it.   The fact that Mages could sense certain things just by being near made much more sense to me...
Narrator
GM, 6731 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 19:30
  • msg #468

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Rosewood (msg # 466):

Nah just ignore that if building 75 pointers
Chye Isuel
player, 1555 posts
Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
Dragon descended, Youxia
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 22:00
  • msg #469

Re: Out of Character 8

it should be +1 to BS, it's an expensive advantage.
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 1757 posts
Dirty High Elf Sage
HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 22:58
  • msg #470

Re: Out of Character 8

Chye Isuel:
it should be +1 to BS, it's an expensive advantage.

WHAT??!?

Combat Reflexes is cheap as hell for all it gives.  Try building +1 to all defenses the 'hard' way...

Note, I'm against adding even more awesome into Combat Reflexes.  It's too much of a good thing already.

And no, it didn't add to Basic Speed in 3rd ed, or 2nd ed, or even Man to Man. Combat Reflexes has never added to Basic Speed.

My guess?  You're remembering house rules gwythaint.
Ardenas Barehand
player, 1289 posts
Human martial artist with
a few spells on the side.
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 23:07
  • msg #471

Re: Out of Character 8

Generally any "omnibus" advantages that changed cost from 3rd to 4th was because now they cost the sum of all the included bits, where 3rd often gave a discount for the package deal.

Boss, I'm pretty sure your formatting example is almost exactly what my HTML export from GCS produces.  If there are problems, I could probably figure out how to make some minor tweaks.
Christine Bjorn
player, 1675 posts
blue haired
mountain elf
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 23:18
  • msg #472

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Narrator (msg # 463):

Give me time, I can try to adjust my characters that way. Since I do them all manually, the character sheets of mine seem pretty easy to read to me. Is it just me?

I am happy with working with the spirit of the DF templates, understanding the restrictions are part of the Df world, though sometimes the details are a bit sticky when I have a certain character concept in mind that does not exactly fit. The halfcrazed fire mage kind of works, though the stay-at-home artificer did not fit exactly. But then, I usually start with a concept and flesh it out, rather than starting with a template and shoe-horning the concept into the template. Just me.
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 1759 posts
Dirty High Elf Sage
HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sat 31 Aug 2019
at 03:21
  • msg #473

Re: Out of Character 8

Ardenas Barehand:
Generally any "omnibus" advantages that changed cost from 3rd to 4th was because now they cost the sum of all the included bits, where 3rd often gave a discount for the package deal.

Combat Reflexes didn't change from 3e to 4e.  It did change from Man to Man to 2e (went from 15 points to 10 points) and from 2e to 3e (went back up to 15 points and added in +1 to all defenses*, +1 Fast Draw, and +2 Fright Checks).


* Yup, in MtM and 2e it was only +1/2 to Initiative and +6 to recover from Surprise/Wake up.
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 1760 posts
Dirty High Elf Sage
HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sat 31 Aug 2019
at 03:25
  • msg #474

Re: Out of Character 8

Narrator:
It makes it easier for me to read; it is how I write all of the NPCs if I am being Fancy I do
Attributes
Advantages
Disadvantages
Skills
Spells
Equipment

Just the category names?  Or everything?
Christine Bjorn
player, 1676 posts
blue haired
mountain elf
Sat 31 Aug 2019
at 04:23
  • msg #475

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 474):

I modified my characters with everything. Headings in bold, spell sub-classes in blue to break it up. probably should sort the formatting and allies next...
Narrator
GM, 6734 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Sat 31 Aug 2019
at 23:42
  • msg #476

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 475):

And for simplicity, folks, we are using bog standard allies from DF 5/9 and customizing them as they level. Of course, if you are at 260 points, your 62 point allies start at 65, your 125 point allies are 130 etc.
Recently, I gave someone's allies a couple of Slayer exclusive perks, based on the D&D logic that natural (or in this case, unnatural) creatures of sufficient HD could affect opponents normally hit only by magic weapons. The idea of the perks was to emulate Buffy doing aggravated damage to vamps with her bare hands. Play a slayer, it is an inborn trait, anyone else, there needs to be a serious plot based circumstance to acquire these and other slayer traits, like Hell Vision and Demon Sniffer, which are sort of "detect" and Aura or Magesight as powers.
Might be posting tomorrow, if not, Monday.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:52, Sun 01 Sept 2019.
Aldous Hack
player, 1 post
Housekeeper's orphan,
Street runner, rogue
Wed 4 Sep 2019
at 23:02
  • msg #477

Re: Out of Character 8

"Howdy, folks. Y'know, I'm gettin' almighty tired o' livin' like scum.  Father Robards's bin good, but he's stretched a bit thin, too.  I think it's time I found sumpin' 'at pays better 'n hangin' out wit' a bunch a' gobs that ain't fast enough, big enough, or tough enough to play jugga."
Nana Yurick
player, 1 post
Shevnian Barmaid
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 02:15
  • msg #478

Re: Out of Character 8

I don't seem to have a proper character sheet yet, like my other PC's have.
This message was undeleted by the player at 02:19, Thu 05 Sept 2019.
Narrator
GM, 6758 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 14:06
  • msg #479

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Nana Yurick (msg # 478):

Corrected. Meanwhile,  I need to map some sub basements to the unnamed inn run by the Yuricks for Adolus and others to investigate,  and stat out more of the yokai that are piling up in Veroigne...
Hetilda Yurick
player, 5 posts
"Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 16:01
  • msg #480

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Narrator (msg # 479):

i'll think of a good name for the inn, in the meanwhile...
i have the map of the main floor, but you mentioned it also has an upper floor, too.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:03, Thu 05 Sept 2019.
Narrator
GM, 6759 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 17:27
  • msg #481

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Hetilda Yurick (msg # 480):

An upper floor without exits, although I might add space for a kitchen garden...

Just so the New in Town folks know: matters the Gendarms ignore tend to be matters that the Hadereum ignores. If pressed,  the Gendarmes will be embarrassed and in turn make life difficult, because they are like that.
Anita Drake
player, 57 posts
Hey sweetie
Lets see your money pouch
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 19:59
  • msg #482

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Narrator (msg # 481):

Who pays the Gendarms wages?
Narrator
GM, 6760 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 22:10
  • msg #483

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 482):

The taxes collected by the Hadereum. If you go over their heads to the Hadereum,  they will refer you back to a sergeant of the gendarmes because they like to see chain of command followed (they are a beauracracy) and assume the issue was dealt with if no report was filed. Which means, if the watch ignores something, it never happened, unless it inv9lves another reporting agency.

In other words, a thief can't really threaten to call the cops without risking arrest or a beating.

This is why adventurers get hired in town.
Aldous Hack
player, 2 posts
Housekeeper's orphan,
Street runner, rogue
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 22:14
  • msg #484

Re: Out of Character 8

"Wages ain't the only way ta pay th' rent, Anita.  They's a few honest cops, but most of 'em take in as much in grift as on tha books."
Leroy du Lac
player, 89 posts
Mercenaire gent d'armes
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 01:50
  • msg #485

Re: Out of Character 8

hey rosewood! i bet you could easily follow these goons back to their lair, where they will no doubt tell their leader about what happened! If you can make yourself invisible, i bet you could eavesdrop on some crucial information, for the group!
Hetilda Yurick
player, 6 posts
"Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 12:00
  • msg #486

Re: Out of Character 8

We'll call our place "The Mug & Cauldron"!
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 12:01, Fri 06 Sept 2019.
Kazimir Yurick
player, 5 posts
Skald & Innkeeper
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 12:01
  • msg #487

Re: Out of Character 8

I like it, I like it! We'll have a sign made, with a stylized frothing mug and a steaming cauldron, to hang up.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:23, Fri 06 Sept 2019.
Narrator
GM, 6764 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 13:32
  • msg #488

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Kazimir Yurick (msg # 487):

Nice!
Rosewood
player, 29 posts
Pixie
Wizardling
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 14:17
  • msg #489

Re: Out of Character 8

Leroy du Lac:
hey rosewood! i bet you could easily follow these goons back to their lair, where they will no doubt tell their leader about what happened! If you can make yourself invisible, i bet you could eavesdrop on some crucial information, for the group!


Will do.
I hope the group was enjoying the fun Rosewood had with the thug.
You can expect more thing to be tied up, tied down or untied in the future :)
Anita Drake
player, 60 posts
Hey sweetie
Lets see your money pouch
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 20:14
  • msg #490

Re: Out of Character 8

In reply to Rosewood (msg # 489):

It was good to see them get their knickers in a knot about the shoelaces being untied...
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