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In Gurps DF, can you build Traps from Dex?

In reply to Masugatan (msg # 2):
you could get lock picking at DX/A and get traps at a -3 from your lock picking skill.
Lock Picking 2 15 DX/A
Traps - 12 IQ/A for example, is how I did mine.
if you wanna build traps up through DX, increase your lock picking, as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:39, Sat 20 Apr 2019.

Build?  Building Traps uses the same stat.  Setting a trap can default to DX in Basic (and DF).


In DFRPG for some reason Lockpicking is based on DX (probably to make it easier for Thieves) as is Traps*.

* Actually Traps use either IQ (setting), Per (spotting), or DX (disarming).



So we now need gwythaint to make a ruling on which ruleset we're using.

Jareth, I'm pretty sure they were talking about "build" as in "character build" -- that is, basing Traps skill on DX instead of IQ.  Apparently DF offers that option with Lockpicking.

For myself, I don't think that would pass the reality check.  Yes, picking a lock can/could be learned based just on feel and finger agility, without any underlying knowledge of how locks work (though I'd probably limit that to TL3 to TL6 mechanical locks only, if I were GM; many modern lock designs absolutely require you to know how the lock works to have any chance of picking it open).

Setting or especially constructing traps, on the other hand, I'd have to say (in my opinion) is much more about knowledge, and can't be based just on muscle memory or manual dexterity.  You have to know how a trap works to construct it, whether it's a simple figure-4 trigger for a spring loop or deadfall, or something based on a pressure plate that releases a string of crossbows behind a wall at the other end of the room.

DF uses the skills straight out of Basic.

DFRPG changes Lockpicking to be DX based.


DFRPG doesn't care about the reality sniff test, it cares about "is it good for the game".  Apparently Kromm decided Lockpicks based on DX was good for the game.  I, shockingly agree.  It sort of solves the "the Thieves niche is easily abused" problem that DF has.  It doesn't solve the "the Thief Template sucks in combat" problem that they both have.

You mean the “high IQ characters can too easily adopt thief stuff” sort of thing?

Yeah.  How many groups have a Lockpicker-Trapspringer that isn't a Thief?  I bet every group that doesn't have an Oly* in it still has at least one or two Characters that can easily sub in for a Thief at lockpicking and traps.




* I'm pretty sure Oly is the only Thief Character we have, though I strongly suspect Masugaton is aiming at going that direction as well.

In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 7):

That is part of the problem. Having +5 striking strength on surprise hardly equates to D&D backstabbing ability unless coupled with targeting vitals or chinks in armor.
I am definitely for spending points on Target Vitals (targeting maneuvers are by location, as in strike leg, strike neck, strike vitals, strike head, strike eye).
I was reading the whole "why clerics are weak" thread on Dungeon Fantastic, and am going to try a Brute+Priest build for clerics...

The per to detect, IQ to set, and dex to disarm works for traps, DF2 talked about making lockpicking a DX skill.
Building a 10 IQ fighter type into an expert trap spotter/builder/disarmer needs points dumped into per and the skill;
Increased perception would help in general.

Reanna is a thief, and Sorsha has a thief lens, Mischa is a thief/artificer

The winning build seems to be archer/burglar or skirmisher/burglar with weapon mastery.

I'm not as versed on DF as you are, but now that you have mentioned it I totally see the hole in the system.  I'll make a couple suggestions that might help with that.  For Mage/Sage builds, they just don't spend as much time on the Thief skills to have more than a passing interest in them.  You could house rule a few things to balance out the gap in a few ways:

* Limit them to 1 point in anything not a core skill for the high IQ folks, unless they specifically want to be a MU/TH build
* Make the skills one level harder for MU types, so DX/A skills become DX/H skills, which also discourages Building in that direction.
* I like adjusting the odd skill to be DX based, where it would make sense, to encourage that to be more of a TH skill.  They're going to have a high DX in almost all builds, so it would work.
* Maybe limiting PER for more bookish types would be the way to go, as a way to make the social skills more attractive to TH builds.

I don't want to encourage hacking up the system just to balance things out, but I always thought TH builds were hard because you had to have both IQ and DX.  You'd expect to have skills like Body Language be good for the class, but they frequently aren't because they ultimately base off of IQ.  You have to buy your PER up independently, when MU types get it as part of the build.

I hadn't really done more than noticing the issue, but I thought about it a lot more today.  Interesting.

In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 10):

Part of the built-in class disads are reduced move and per for casters, and thieves have full move and increased per but reduced will.
Scouts end up with the best per and move combos, and archer/burglar is quite good. We have a few brutes and squires with the adept lens as fighter/magic-users.
The problem with clerics is that fighter wise they are built as guards. Sure, 12 ST beats the 10 of the wizards, thieves, bards, and swashbucklers, but it isn't quite what you expect of a warrior priest.

Coming from the 3E GURPs, I keep forgetting so much of Dungeon Fantasy is based on the templates.  I imagine that does balance things out quite nicely.

That works in games where vitals tend to exist in your enemies... Undead for instance tend to lack those vital spots... as do other traditional dungeon monsters (like ooze, slime, jellies)... so a lot of people who aren't Scouts, Swishypokelers, and Theifs (IE 'low damage dealers") tend to not bother with them.


I favor the Holier Warrior build myself (swap Born War Leader, Higher Purpose and Holiness 2 for Power Investiture 4, then 40 Advantage points into IQ and 10 Advantage points into spells).

Or just DX Cleric (spend 40 Advantage points on DX drop 10 spells and buy Combat Reflexes).  They still need to build their way into being a decent fighter (buying up ST and HT 14), but then so do Holy Warriors.


Yeah, Scoutlar and Theifbuckler are stronk builds.






Which is wht DFRPG swapped Lockpicking and Traps (Disarming) over to DX.


As gwythaint mentioned, Wizard Templates lose Per.  In fact, they're the only Template that does.  Every other DF Template either keeps Per equal to IQ or buys it up (Scout and Thief).






Yeah, sticking to Templates means no Thief, no decent Lockpicking or Traps (Scouts can get good at Traps).

Allowing strong deviations from or outright ignoring Templates (as this game does) means no need for a Thief.

Granted... as several DF game journals I follow has shown, even sticking to Templates and not allowing Out-Of-Template skills, there is still no need for Thieves.  Doors and locks can be forced and traps can simply be survived.

That's why several GMs out there support the Theifbuckler and Scoutlar builds (by which I mean "make Lockpicking and Traps in Template for them and do nothing else").
This message was last edited by the player at 23:50, Sun 21 Apr 2019.

Thieves need to be able to do something fantastic. All the other classes have the ability to above and beyond a regular person. Spells, weapon mastery, etc.

Thieves need something other than hitting hard.

Shadow jumps

Spider-walk on walls

Non magical disguise

In my home games I've rolled Camouflage and Silence together into a new Advantage called "Shadow Walking".  It costs 5 per level, adds to Stealth just like Silence does but also counts versus sight.

For Thiefs it just works as long as they are being 'stealthy' (ie rolling Stealth) and they can buy 6 levels, for Halflings (up to 4 lvls) it only works if their are larger creatures or objects around to 'hide amongst', for Shadow Elves (also up to 4 lvls) they literally need to be stealthy in an area that gives Darkness Penalties.  The Racial and Template versions stack.


I also let Thiefs swap out High Manual Dexterity and Perfect Balance for 4 levels of Thief Talent which adds to Acrobatics, Climbing, Lockpicking, Stealth, and Traps.

I've been told this makes Thief more popular by my Players... but... it still hasn't netted an overall increase in Thief Characters being made.  My Players still prefer Thiefbucklers and Scoutlars.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 15):

I have had success with thieves at different point ranges; I have seen play where a 125 point cutpurse with surprise striking strength +5 and luck kept up with the brutes in the party. I think the power ups from DF11 like non-detection should be available out of the gate. Everyone should be able to be awesome im their niche. While I don't mind dwarves having traps and lockpicking, or scouts having traps, And the odd dabbling sage with curiosity, the stand alone thief should be best at these things. I know the template reads as normal guy with expert skills, I usually try to build mine with combat reflexes. This needs revisiting.

I will be back early tomorrow.

Alchemy is a cool and useful skill, but it takes time expenditures to brew the potions. often weeks per batch, depending on the difficulties and ingredients involved. when a few days game time can last years, how is alchemy a feasible skill to have, when the brew times are involved for potions?

This is where a clear cut delineation of which set of rules we're using would be useful.

In DF/RPG Alchemy doesn't take weeks, it takes one week and reduces the cost of potions by 20% on a success, increases them by 10% on a failure.  The idea being your making the potions yourself.  Armoury and Poison does the same.  Herb Lore cuts the cost of Natural Preparations and Healing Potions in half (or adds 10% on a failure).

useful. Thanks!

Nodwin looked very hard at Herb Lore and a lab with his last point expenditures, but decided against it.  Reading up on the threads, it has been something like 4 days of play time for this group, and 3 years in driver time.  Based on the character build it should be near the top of the list.  As a player, it seemed much less practical.  This group has quite a bit happening in the immediate time frame.  We wouldn't see the results of our Herb Lore for quite some time.

For the record, that's not meant to be negative or positive.  It's a descriptive.  That's just how this game runs, and I'm fine with it.  We have interesting stuff to do.  :)

Raises hand.

I guess I'm more or less what Jareth called a "scoutlar" -- I've got lockpicking and traps, climbing and stealth, none at high skill, but enough I'm more likely to succeed than not -- but I consider myself an archer.  The other stuff is just what a shop guard has to do to get ahead enough to buy adventuring equipment -- light armor, decent bow, and that Quiver...

I'm not sure gwythaint would make it take two weeks in game to brew something up (especially if it's literally "20% off the price" rather than "brew up something not purchasable").  Maybe a day or two, and we could set those days as "getting stuff done days" which we find makes them go by much, much faster.


So, how about it GM?  How long does Alchemy, Herb Lore, and Poison brewing take in game?





You're an Archent.  Mostly Archer with some Agent mixed in.

Just like Jareth was a Psagent.  Mostly Sage, a very little Psi, and a little Agent.  Though... it just got turned into Psigent.

All this template mixing and labeling makes my head hurt.

I'm just one of the Merry Men.  With aspirations to be Robin Hood.

Well, based on us taking over a row of slum houses, we're currently in the 'Hood'.  You're half way there.  Rename yourself Robin, and as far as I'm concerned you have it covered.  You'll just have to steal from some rich people so we can gentrify the neighborhood...

I have the skills of high military  command, a pirate, and thief, and a swordsman and martial artist, who has some slight magical affinity and arcane knowledge. mostly, to help him identify and use magical items, than for any future spells...

*Skills* (51)
Karate 4 15 DX/H
Judo 4 15 DX/H
Pole Arm 2 15 DX/A
Two-Hand Sword 2 15 DX/A
Fast-Draw Two-Hand Sword 1 15 DX/E (+1)
Flail 4 15 DX/H
Bow 1 14 DX/A
Fast-Draw Arrow 1 15+1 DX/E
Swimming 1 13 HT/E
Climbing 1 14 DX/A
Stealth 2 15 DX/A
Acrobatics 2 14 DX/H
Lock Picking 2 15 DX/A
Traps - 12 IQ/A
Area Knowledge (Northport) 2 13 IQ/E
Current Affairs (Little Sahud) 2 13 IQ/E
Leadership 1 12+1 IQ/A
Soldier (TL4) 4 13 IQ/A
Savoir Faire 1 12+2 (military) IQ/E
Savoir Faire 1 12+2 (High Society) IQ/E
Savoir Faire 2 13+2 (Dojo) IQ/E
Tournament Law/Games - 12 (Sahudese Martial Arts)
Diplomacy 4 12+2 IQ/H
Carousing 1 13+2 HT/E
Bartender - 12 IQ/A
Cooking 1 12 IQ/E (Sahudese)
Butcher 1 14 DX/A
Performance/Ritual 2 12+2 (Sahudese/Aralaise) IQ/A
Singing 1 13+3 HT/E
Musical Instrument 4 12+3 Lute IQ/H
Musical Instrument - 13 Murin Khuur (Horsehead Fiddle)
Musical Instrument - 13  Zither IQ/H
Musical Composition - 13 IQ/H (Strings)
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*Maneuvers* (+10)
Targeted Attack 4 15 (two-hand sword/naginata, using sword technique) [Neck] *+1 w/ weapon bond*
Targeted attack 4 15 (flail) [Head] *+1 w/ weapon bond*
Cat Stance 2 15 (karate)
Arm/Wrist Lock - 15 (judo)
Knee Strike - 14 (karate)
Head Butt - 14 (karate)
Elbow Strike - 13 (karate)
Choke Hold - 13 (judo)
Disarm - 15 (judo)
Break fall - 15 (judo)
Binding - 15 (judo)
Throw - 15 (judo)
Trip - 15 (judo)
I'm more focused, but still a good mix of social and thief skills mixed in
This message was last edited by the player at 17:52, Wed 24 Apr 2019.

Alchemy takes he shortest posible time without the artificer specific advantages like instant gadgeteer.


Work has ben hectic, and I have a family thing tonight, will try to catch up to

you could take the efficient perk to shorten brew times to 80%, of what they would be normally without increasing risk of mishap, right?

In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 28):

I need to look it up, reread DF4

There is nothing in DF 4 about potion brewing that doesn't also require Quick Gadgeteer (and even then it's real thin on the ground "GM Fiat" level of rules).

What you want is Pyramid 3-82 Magical Creations, Dungeon Brewmaster by PKitty.  If you don't have it I'm happy enough to copy the two-three paragraphs of DF'ed brewing rules and PM them to you.

But essentially it boils down to (HAH!):  Takes one day, requires 20% of the potion's purchase value in reagents and a Lab, takes a skill roll.  Taking more time gives the Alchemist a skill bonus just like Takes Extra Time (but the potion cannot be left, the brewer must be attending it a full work day, every day).  Chemicals can be rushed and done in 4 hours for a -5, but not potions (unless you're a Quick Gadgeteer).

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 30):

A one day turnaround is fine, we meed to get you a lab (I would recomend the former cultist rooms for that, out of sight, crit failures are less likely to set the house on fire.

OOC  Nodwin has Herb Lore, but not much money.

I recommend this:
* Sell the gem for a crap ton of money.
* If someone can use the sword as an upgrade, I'm all for it, otherwise sell it.
* Make an agreement among all the party members that we will pay for the lab off the top, and divide the rest.
* Split the rest of the money among the group.
* Split whatever the lab produces among everyone evenly, until we have paid for the lab in product.

Anny additions or modifications are welcome.

In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 32):

Or use the stone to wish for an upgrade to the lair, including a furnished lab, thereby not selling a potential nuclear weapon?

I consider that a worthy inclusion.

Perhaps we can wish that Thanos never created the infinity gauntlet...?

Hmm, sound Good... me thinking, talk later .... smoke drifts upward...

In reply to Brodak (msg # 35):

Goig tobe scarce this weekend, watching Endgame.  Anyone else getting 404 errors here lately?

Jase mentioned the file system filled up due to log files.  Probably just clutter from the past 10 years or so.  I expect the issue is resolved by this point.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 36):

Yes, almost everyone did.

I had 404 last night and this morning.  I could get the site menu, but NONE of the links from it would load; at that point, I figured the site admins already knew there was a problem and would fix it when they could.

Me too; any subpage (i.e. anything not rpol.net) 404-failed constantly for two days or so. It seems to work now.

Yeah, the harddrive had filled with logs.  Jase cleared it out so we're good for another decade...

Nice job of buying future-resistant systems.  Now if only some process would automatically delete the oldest logs if space is needed for new ones -- and limit the space used to a settable value, so there's still room for the message base.

Ok, cool. I was wondering if something was up.

I work in computer support for Unix/Linux, and you would be surprised by how many professional business admins let exactly the same thing happen.  It's better now than it used to be, but I wouldn't throw any shade at anyone for that event.  It has been 10 years after all.  Now I'm making a few assumptions in saying this, but I also have a feeling they are pretty accurate.

And... Jase isn't paid for this... and he's been exceptionally busy and away from the site more and more the last 5 years... and a handful of his old mods moved on*... and...

This whole thing is a labor of love for Jase and the Mods.


* As evidenced by the Avatar Image threads where the new Image Mods have been dropping every ball the last 6 months (not exactly their fault, but...)...

An excellent idea for you gwythaint... https://orwin-dm.tumblr.com/po...amned-murder-machine

Everybody can thank me later!

aw man! that'd be like scrooge mcduck's worst nightmare.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 46):

The high DR Pudding template from Monsters3 is supposed to describe a protoplasmic creature with gravel stuck to it, so that would do nicely, except it would have treasure!

In reply to Narrator (msg # 48):

A new Thief character (but old player), a mugger for the Juniors, with a fence as an ally. Now, how to introduce her to the thread?

Looks Like a Muslim Female...

In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 50):

Or someone who likes to be discrete...

Walking around in black wrappings isn't my concept of discrete ... but that's just my opinion.

Hey GM are you going to post in Rice Run again? Just wanted to keep it from slipping down to page 2...

In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 52):

It certainly helps in being not recognized...if I ever ditch it!

Or is this one better?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:36, Tue 30 Apr 2019.

A bit better I think ... but then Jocelyn is not exactly shy about who she is ...  I am sure there are a couple where they lady conceals her face with out looking like someone to be concerned about.  We girls need to stick together now.

In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 55):

True indeed, we do.

sssisssstas, are doin' it, fo themmmmmmsellllllllllllllllllllllves!

In reply to Ales Konstantin (msg # 53):

Posting today

Cool.

who are these new and curious PCs?

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 60):

Nobody at all. Just a couple of immigrants looking for work. Nobody of note...

In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 61):

Well, that is not entirely true. I can create some fine gear, and buy and sell of some as well.

"Nodwin speaks wisely... I regret that I have no skills in evaluating truth of statements, but at least the merchant should be given a chance. The security bitch is not needed and should be sent away, she is probably a guild plant anyway."

LOL xD

Just playing the Character...

Still funny.  :)
We have to get you and Gareth in the same group. Social skills for the win.

No, I think not... wholly different driving forces involved. They'd get along like fire and gunpowder!  Short, hot, lots of flash and nothing of value produced.

In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 65):

Go on. Nothing of Value? Entertainment is the whole reason for this game!

Nothing of value?  That combination can break rocks to release the gems or ore within!

Oh, good grief.  Am I a little slow?  Or is Ashbury not Martin's father's brother?  O.o

All of this going over my head. Right now, all I can thinking about is a menagerie of supernatural creatures that are blocking the road.

you know, I'm sort of interested in joining junior house. i have an idea for a character that could be of good use...

Nodwin needs a bit of guidance from the GM before answering Jareth.  I have happened on a bit of a religious question which I cannot answer.

[Private to GM: OK, ethical question for you...

Create Food costs half the fatigue if you're taking something "close" to food and turning it into food.  What are the moral and ethical ramifications if Nodwin goes down to the sub-basement and creates a bunch of food out of a dead body?  I can see a lot of people being disgusted by that.  I can also see a bunch of people who would appreciate the practical use of magic (2 birds, one stone - body gone + food).  Plus, there is the soul of the dead person to consider.  Would Vejovis consider this acceptable, and affront to the faith, or something in between...?  I want to know what you think before I act on it.  If appropriate I can roll Theology, just let me know. ]

In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 72):

That is a very practical question, but I would say Nodwin would not accept that idea. Good question in the pm, though.

[Private to Nodwin Zideqick:that would be suited to a less benign death cult than the SJW that is Vejovis.
More suited would be using shape earth to dig a grave, and casting it again to bury.]

In reply to Narrator (msg # 73):

I am likely to be scarce , might be posting on Sunday.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 74):

Had a meeting at work yesterday when I would usually be catching up, today I had a deadline for digitally cleaning several projects, and errands to run I wasn't planning on. I will be in a place tomorrow where I can catch up, thank you for besting with me.

We're your besties.

In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 76):

All good. Gives me less excuse not to study for my exam today!

In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 77):

Got stuck at work babysitting a disabled patoent because the EMTs went out for coffe, lost a half hour of screen time, will try and catch up tomorrow.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 78):

So much for catching up today; seven freaking enemas (15 fluoro cases total) worked through my break and an hour past my shift because the scheduling team needs a foot enema. Smdh.

Or maybe just an enema with a foot long nozzle! That would be sure to make their eyes roll.

Water Jet for the win!!!
Sounds like you need the 3d version...

Now that's a shopping list!  I'll need to borrow some money...

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 82):

Half a pound of gold is about 130 cpins worth $80 each...

Oh, thought that was to be paid after.  If that's up front, then all I have to worry about is how not to get mugged after spending the first one.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:34, Sat 11 May 2019.

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 84):

That is true. Someone in your party did detect the location of a bunch of silver though

Twas I....

In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 86):

Do you need a hand to collect it? Better than dead bodies...

Do you really want to go hying off with just three* of you into the Dungeon over a pouch of silver?

/incredulous look


* Presuming that Charlene is up for it...

(I mean Jareth would be up for it, but he's crazy in the casaba)

We'll look for the silver next time we're down there.  While watching out for stuff that doesn't belong (like bhole, ghula, etc.) and stuff that does (like maned rats and slorn).

If slorn are up in the areas we're likely to be in, something went awry.

Oh! and like that has never happened before!

few creatures born, meaner and dumber, than a slorn...
This message was undeleted by the player at 10:07, Mon 13 May 2019.

Yep.  Too dumb to die.  Have to kill 'em at least a couple times.

Seems to me I've read of that specific version of that spell resulting in access to much liquid soap and an overheavy cart with poor capacity...

It was a car not a cart...

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 95):

Goung to be catching up Wednesday

It took me for-freaking-ever to find that sidebar (though I guess a Fiat would be over heavy with poor capacity)...

"All right. You get light. You also get a tunnel full of assorted farm animals. You also get a red metal thing with wheels, which blocks the tunnel behind you. It looks like a small wagon, but there’s no place to hook the horses. On one end is a big white bottle."

i couldn't resist. when i rolled that crit, for the light spell, it just seemed so appropriate!
This message was last edited by the player at 13:04, Tue 14 May 2019.

In reply to Sederic (msg # 98):

Make another roll t see how critty the crit is (permanent sunlight, barnyard animals, sports car and soap all on the table)

12:38, Today: Sederic rolled 16 using 3d6. how's that?

In reply to Sederic (msg # 100):

Low impact, minimally weird crit. If the second or third rolls were under 6, it would have gotten funky.

that's a good thing, then!

In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 102):

Rolling a second crit would have had far reaching effects; Jocelyn (at the very beginning) rolled a 4 plus a 6 plus a 5 casting winged knife, and ended up making her target look like a pincushion (with 37 knives) and attracted the interest of the Lord of Knives...
Mal'ga Mar critted on seek object, and will always know where the item is.
Zarat created a simple illusion that lasted four hours. A double crit on your light spell could have been permanent continual light. A crit weird result woud have got you the farm animals and the car, and some curious elder things...

permenant light down there woulda been must useful.

In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 104):

Not so sure about the curious Elder things though...lol

Oh, I'm not Curious at the disadvantage level, just the player character level...  ;)

A couple ways to look at that:
A.  Wow, an elder thing that is curious...
B.  Wow, that's a curious looking elder thing...
I think either could potentially go badly.

Oh, yes.

Either way doesn't bode well for mere humans.

In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 108):

I have Curiosity -15

i usually give it to my players, but at the -5 level.

Players constantly checking out what's in your cupboards eh?

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 111):

Wil catch up tomorrow. Having trouble with focus.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 112):

Stalking Balar has been archived, so I cant post that I approach cautiously, keeping to where there is cover...

Reanna, there's a new thread you'll most likely be directed to when the GM returns.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 114):

So there is!

In reply to Reanna Draegan (msg # 115):

Be running about with the wife for a few days, not sure when posting next (might be Monday, might be sooner)

So, Yr-go is Elder for tribble?  O.o

Except instead of a furpile in your food supply, you get fungi in the eye...

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 118):

https://hereticwerks.blogspot....15/05/yr-go.html?m=1

Pardon me, I'll be out shopping for some sort of eye protection to wear while sleeping...

I had no idea his little flying pet was an eater.  :(
I'll have to have Nodwin apologize to Clarence...

Well, you weren't playing Nodwin when that revelation originally dropped a few years ago.   I was expecting something vaguely horrible to happen, they are called 'eye-thieves' for a reason.

I didn't remember that either ... seems they need to be constrained.

True statement there.  I did read over the whole thread before I started the character.  However, I'm sure it was a much bigger revelation back then, and got more eye time.  I didn't retain anything about the yr-go until the GM put up something.  I was as uneducated on the topic as Nodwin.

It was a single line said by Jareth once with probably much more ominous sentences around it...

Msg #445, Junoirs link to a message in this game




See?  First and last lines, very ominous.

Just in case you haven't seen it, this is the bone gate, your houseguest and their pet:


https://drive.google.com/file/...lE/view?usp=drivesdk

So, what we have here is the equivalent of an out of town guest's dog getting into the pantry and eating all the bacon.  Only the bacon crock is a person...

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 127):

And there was no established agreement about conduct on the part of either.

A stranger in a strange land, the Ymid knows not our custom of hospitality.

As Scotty would say:
Eye, Captain!

...oh wait, that was Aye...

(please don't dock me a point for that)

In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 130):

Boo!
This message was last edited by the player at 16:23, Mon 20 May 2019.

Has Christine just admitted she's been a snake in trousers all along, or did Dareos go full Sethygg?

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 132):

I must be slow, but I missed the implication...

Are you a new Player added to the roster of the Abandoned Abbey?  Because you posted to that thread (Beneath the cloister's winery)...  hence my referral to two Characters in that group, one of whom who hates/fears trouser snakes* and the other who worships a snakey god.



* Or maybe it was just sex in general.

lol that's funneh...

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 135):

oops...Lol. I think I posted as wrong character...but at least the error is humorous!

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 135):

judy was a prude!  her friend was scared of dudes! they both went to northport, and joined the adventurer's guild! oh i don't know why! oh i don't know why! perhaps they'll die! *oh yeah* perhaps they'll die! *oh yeah* perhaps they'll dieeeeee! *ohhhhyeahhhh*

I figured it was you misposting as Aoife's ally.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 138):

Be posting tomorrow

In reply to Narrator (msg # 139):

Enjoy the weekend, be traveling with my wife. See you Monday

In reply to Narrator (msg # 140):

Back tomorrow, hope the weekend was good

In reply to Narrator (msg # 141):

Work allowed no time to post. I apologize,  but this is stressing me out.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 142):

From our perspective, this is just a game, though a great one, but not worth stressing out. Stressing out about Real Life, well, don't stress too much. Even life is a temporary situation...it will pass!

Yes, whether you like it or not.

In reply to Azrael (msg # 144):

To the folks in the caravan, your original plan was to find a magically hidden fortress that only a few people seem to recall seeing from a distance, and no one has ever been to, there was a sage consultation about that.

And this was the Path to it... I got that...

I don't recall reading that, but I'm newish too.  Thanks for the mention.

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 147):

Here are Haveron's earlier threads:
Over in the Wastrel's hope
link to a message in this game

And
 the Dismal Tower
link to a message in this game

In reply to Narrator (msg # 148):

A timely reminder...

In reply to Gareth (msg # 149):

Rereading older threads to give a better map for juniors. There had been a map, but it has been misplaced since October 2015...

Or last Thursday.  I can never remember which...  ;)

Don't look at me. I've got Eidetic Memory.

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 151):

Redrawing, might also know where the original was...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 153):

away for the day, working on commisssions

looking to retire sederic,aegis, and tanaka, anyone want them?
took over a friend's account til he returned, and he's not coming back.

I'll post tomorrow, dealing with lack of sleep right now

I would consider one, if not already in an existing thread.  Perhaps 2 if they are fairly simple to play.

In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 157):

Tanaka is a samurai poet currently in Rice Run.
Aegis is a potent weapon master in Balar's Hoard
Sederic is a fighter/mage with a cursed sword in Ashbury's Abattoir

Sorry  I couldn't  get on today, work was rough.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 158):

I can take Sederic. Since I have taken 2 in Balars whorde, it starts to get unbalanced for me to take a third, and I am far from a poet, though that does sound interesting.

On a similar note, I will likely be away from 7th July to 1st August.

Whichever you want of the leftovers is fine.  Or both.  Leave it up to the GM, and if others want in feel free.

I still owe you a couple historical threads anyway, need to get caught up on at least one character.

cool, cos i just made a junior pc, and that makes it my 4th. i'm getting disinterested in my foster kids. they need a new home. xD
This message was last updated by the player at 21:03, Wed 05 June 2019.

That's why I've only taken on one foster, and as soon as he gets back to town I'll be changing him up slightly.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 162):

Balir, which of the other two fighters would you prefer, Tanaka of Aegis?
The other one wil be played by Broderick's player

I am distributing in order of request recieved.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 163):

I may just have gotten into some unpleasantness at work, I may not be posting today, and definitely not much of the weekend. Sorry to be so distant.

Hope it all works to your favor.  relax and deal with RL, we'll be standing by as always.

I don't have a ton of Eastern philosophy, and am more Engineer than Poet, so probably not Tanaka.

Hello, everyone.

Greetings

In reply to Brodak (msg # 168):

Hey there.

do juniors get a larger xp payout?

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 170):

Nope, Smaller... 125 CP to start ... and I don't think EXP awards are any larger. GM just keeps the tasks within the Juniors ability.

In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 171):
merci beaucoup

Bitte Schön

I am going to be running a tt  con game in August set in Northport,  and using 187pt characters. I plan on offering (upgraded) versions of Ludlow, Razakeel, Szuzana, Molag, Grimbo, Harlan, and possibly Masugatan. Any other suggestions?

In reply to Narrator (msg # 174):

Sederic, Tanaka, and Aegis have all changed hands, and can proceed.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 175):

Cool. Are we doing anything, or just chatting? read back a bit, but they seem to be just chatting about the hole in the street...

it's the GM's next move. on that thread.

I'm training a guy from out of the country this week, so I'm around but not as active as I usually am.

In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 177):

I had paused because of the eminent player switch.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 179):

Other characters up for grabs:

Goran the Marked, a battle priest of Hors, the Shevnian god of winter solstice and death
(currently in a matter concerning the Hadereum)

Sorsha, Sorceress and thief, comes with Mischa, who is a thief and artisan (ostensibly a cabinet maker who collects knives)
(both currently in Near Al Menir)

Shroud, a scout thief,
(currently in Near Al Menir, but soon to be dropped off in the city if no one picks him up)

I'll take Goran, might as well stay with the religious theme, and I don't have anyone in that thread.

Also, I happened to pull the Sunday weekend rotation this week.  Should have ample time to get up to speed on all the characters and get them up and running.  Might have a few side questions for you along the way boss.

it is an inevitable phenomena that guild members do murder one another. how does the guild handle infighting and foul play within the ranks?

In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 182):

I try to avoid it as much as possible. It is a real pain in the ass, and I prefer for people to walk off. Please talk to me in OCC or pm before things get that far

In reply to Narrator (msg # 183):
oh i wasn't meaning among pcs, just as far as how guild justice works, since it's pretty much a bunch of murder hoboes and miscreants.
i meant as in story-wise.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:27, Fri 14 June 2019.

In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 184):

They guild prefers that they enter a formal duel on the arena grounds so that bets can be placed on the outcome in their favor, and that prearranged contracts for the disposal of ones goods in case of death be purchased (such as if you don't want your opponent to get them instead) and prepayment to the Necromancer to NOT raise you as a zombie, unless you prefer the reverse.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 185):

i see, now. thanks!

In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 186):

If I leave your character sheet open for edits, that is not so you can more than double your point total to fit your character concept. This kid of thing is not acceptable

In reply to Narrator (msg # 187):

I am not posting ANYWHERE until I get resolution on this, and may end up removing a player permanently.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 188):

Hadahah is out. Done. He jumped up all of his characters by 40-270 points nope nope nope

In reply to Narrator (msg # 189):

Character deleted and banned. No more of his shit

In reply to Narrator (msg # 190):
uh oh spaghettios

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 191):

I need to take a break from this. I put a lot of work in attempting to accommodate a player who violated the basic social contract of the game.
I gave him  a chance to rewrite the character at 250 points, and they neglected to include the previously decided cost of the golem that had been the character's main concept. Just wasting my time.


I have enough issues with the mutilation of character sheet structure that GCA does in breaking down racial packages and alphabetizing them. I accept occasional rearrangement of points, swapping unused disads for new ones that better fit character concept, or consolidation of partially bought advantages for equivalent ones with the same effect. These modifications are always discussed in occ forums and pms, and approved or modified before implementation.

I have to agree that that is not permissible ... I have had a few players try to under value advantages ... done it myself with weights, costs and prerequisites, but always above board and with some rational. They are not always accepted.  Anyone can succeed by cheating, but if we all did it, the games wouldn't be fun, since you could just adjust things to be all powerful.  250 point characters are pretty darn powerful anyway.

cheating when you're already playin' by yaself is pretty damn funny though... *covers mouth*

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 194):

True too...

I've never used GCA -- but I've used GCS since well before it was swapped to Java to simplify cross-platform use (same program works on Windows, Mac, and Linux).  It lacks the direct support of SJ Games, and the developer is a bit swamped at times so fixes and such can take a while -- but it's been very stable for a long time, users can add stuff (like new spells, advantages, and skills), and the source code is open so programmers can even fix the code if they speak Java.  There are support mailing lists so users can easily contact the developer as well as help each other.

Handles templates pretty well, IMO.  Ardenas was done on GCS, and was my first DF character build.

What it doesn't have is long descriptions of anything -- the developer considers that copyrighted material that exceeds the public play aid license SJ has given.  That's fine, if you use abilities from books you have access to, you won't have problems with it -- and users can add notes to things for quick in-play reference.

Now, that said, anyone can cheat at an RPG if they put their mind to it; I've seen it done in OD&D back when a character sheet was a random piece of ruled notebook paper or graph paper.  My take on it was, it was like cheating at solitaire, only worse because you can ruin someone else's fun.

And ruining the fun for others is the only genuine sin in RPG play.

Sorry about all the chaos.  It's already so much work to run these games as it is.  I understand why it happens, as gamers we all probably feel the temptation.  It's all about being mature individually so you can be a good citizen in the game.

On another subject, Happy Father's Day to all for whom that applies.

In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 197):

Happy fathers day to all!


At least the work done in designing the adventure will get reused in my con game.

Did a wrap up that should work for my needs.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:49, Sun 16 June 2019.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 198):
a gruesome ending for broderick & co., and only one survivor!

"That's the usual number."  Said Golias to Silverlock...

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 200):

Nasty indeed. It seemed like a sudden end...

All that gold just waiting there!

In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 202):

I am leaving it exactly like that for the tabletop group in August. They will be 2-3 weeks into the future...

haha if we run into their zombies, that'd be icing on the cake.

I'm to meet up with the dismal tower group, when you leave there.

I didn't get all the back histories done yesterday - came down a bit ill so i was just happy to finish the work day.

As seen by my posting, I am back - and apparently I did miss quite some unpleasantness. I'm quite sorry, Gwythaint, that you had to deal with that - given that you spend so much time on creating such an extensive and excellent game, I really wish you the most excellent and cooperative players.

same, sorry that guy was such a waste of time!

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 208):

I should be back posting tomorrow.

In the meantime,

https://gwythaintny.wordpress....ng-from-bad-players/

Wow. I mean, just wow.

Particularly after all the work you poured into accommodating them. Again, I'm quite sorry for that.

well, if he tries to come back under another name, his style and methods will give him away. he can't help himself, apparently.

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 211):

Work has been a bit rough lately, mightnot get to posting until Sunday.

Happy Solstice all!

I still owe you a historical read-up on a couple characters.  It's on the to-do list.  Was training a co-worker for the last 2 weeks, and I didn't anticipate it being that involved.  Should be done in the next day or three.

In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 213):

One of the OR techs at my job had a heart attack a few weeks ago (he's doing fine, but will be out of work for months), and they have been pulling me out of my usual workspace where things are slow enough that I can post regularly, and having me run set up and imaging in surgery, and chase after portable post operative cases.
 Now I frequently crank out a lot of portable exams when I am assigned  to that detail, but I generally build my own workflow; when I am in the OR, everything is pager driven, and absolutely infuriating.

(This is a little more than my typical "work has been busy" comment, but y'all have been watching my posting become erratic, so here is why. That and my wife has been working from home, so the time difference between our shifts has been gone from my posting schedule.)

Anyway, I'll  be back tomorrow...

Sounds like the sort of work that causes people to go Postal!

when it's good, it's gravy, and when it's bad, it's poo poo!

That kind of work can work you about to death when the **** hits the fan.  But, you leave at the end of the day knowing you saved lives.  On a good day you see the relief on the faces of the family members, and might even get a thank you from someone who knows what you've done.  It really matters when you make a difference like that.

In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 217):

innapropriate use of Languages:

I have decided to use the high valerian translator and the R'lyeh translator for Eldrich, and the Black Speech of Mordor for goblin, for those trying to run my gobbledygook  through babelfish or google translate. only problem comes up with  ASCII characters that rpol's htm will not support.  For elvish I will use a Sindarin translator.
That one takes some doing, but you can use it to render the Swabian Salute of Gottfried "Götz" von Berlichingen. I find that I am happy with any language that let's me say that.

Elvish: Lefi- mui adel
R'lyehian: lllln'gha ya mgep
Goblin does it best: kiukuk mausan aukuk
Shevnisn (Slovak) does well: pobozkaj mi zadok
Likewise Orcish (slovakian): Poljubi me v rit
And of course, Aralaise: va te faire foutre
and Valdassyan (arabic) has a single word: amlalquni

High valerian can't do it.

Strangely, some words don't reverse translate; the name of the demon from the thread here https://rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=56335&ti=131&date=1527802723 had originally been translated a bit differently, as this rude phrase

---

Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)
pig fucker

---

and now means something different.
This message was lightly edited by the GM at 23:43, Wed 26 June 2019.

You could use the English "Bugger"  and call him Pig Bugger...

Well, as I understand it (and I could be wrong, haven't looked there in a long time), the online Valyrian translator is based almost entirely on words and phrases that have appeared in the GOT series or in Martin's novels.  Given Martin isn't a philologist like Tolkien was, he didn't go out of his way to create complete languages; he just threw in semi-random words with the sound he wanted.

Let me make a note to myself: R'lyeh and/or Valyrian for Eldritch.  That's the same as what I've been calling Elder Speech, right?

In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 220):

That would be the thing exactly.

BTW, "Near the Bone Gate" is showing 998 posts in thread.  Not sure why the game menu shows only 990.

And as I mentioned in that thread, NO ONE SHOULD POST IN IT ANYMORE*.  If it hits 1k posts it stops being searchable.



* Not aimed at you Mario.  ;)

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 223):

Right-O! Report to living by the street collapse.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 224):

Also, we are onboarding more juniors, one is a swashbuckler type, and they may forma team with Leroy, and any defectors from the main group, or Masugatan when he gets back with the loot from Balar.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 225):
it's a hoot 'n a hollar, when yer livin' in squalor!

I haven't gotten to Aegis, but he'll be along with the end of the Hoard thread as well, I would think.  Not sure how many players we have among the characters, but he'll be available if needed.  Depends on time commitments and all, and what the interest is.  I don't have to break him out if we have all the slots filled.

In reply to Aegis (msg # 227):

As I was onboarding two at 125, I have to see what the second one is. A spellcaster or a thief would be good.


Jareth, Mario, found that reference. Pay comes after.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:35, Fri 28 June 2019.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 228):

Who needs the thief?

In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 229):

I am forming an alternate group of juniors (without Ymid) for some onboarding players.
Leroy can be poart of that group. There is a swashbuckler named Wiley Filcher, and two others not settled yet (one may be an apprentice wizard). Anita could join them, as everyone is kinda stealthy so far. if the last guy picks an archer then we have a good group
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:43, Fri 28 June 2019.

Okay, so we're fronting the money for all those exotic materials, including more than a dozen royals for the flying potion?  Unless others are doing a lot better than I am, or we quickly find a safe(ish) way to dispose of Alaric's sword and its gem, we haven't got that kind of money in loose coin...

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 231):

Read the Dismal Tower thread, you have a potential barter situation.

Back on tomorrow
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:07, Sat 29 June 2019.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 232):

One of the new characters looks to be a pixie spellcaster.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 233):
the last one got eaten by the void monster!

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 234):

And one is buzzing about looking fr her sister, who a troll stuck in a jar

In reply to Narrator (msg # 235):
didn't you draw a picture of that? i think i recall that particular drawing...

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 236):

Poor little pixe sisters. These big humans are best treated from afar....as far as possible!

In reply to Aoife (msg # 237):

https://drive.google.com/file/...nM/view?usp=drivesdk

In reply to Lulu (msg # 238):

Lik is now working

In reply to Narrator (msg # 239):
yeah, that's the one I was referring to. neat!

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 240):

Group should be up this week;Leroy, Anita, Wiley, Rosewood the pixie, and a brute mercenary who may know Leroy. I would have preferred an archer, but you get what you get.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 241):

Relying on my crossbow skills? Hope the enemy does not have rapid fire then!

In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 242):
i'm also an armbruster!...soon as i can afford one! armor is expensive, but well worth it.

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 243):

Armbruster? I had to look that one up...not sure I see the connection, but thanks for the warning!

Armbruster - Urban Dictionary
https://www.urbandictionary.co....php?term=Armbruster

A faggot who thinks that everyone but himself is a tool.

In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 244)
it was the proper occupational term for a crossbowman, particularly mercenaries.
we have some gay players and people who are are activists for gay rights, so that's probably offensive... just a heads up.

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 245):

I actually did not make that up. If you do a google search on the name, you will, I expect, find the same, though I did find it amusing. I believe the term you were looking for was arbalist, also spelled arbelist.

In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 246):
yeah, i saw it. but the term i gave is correct, so much so, it's actually a surname, in the manner that smith, fletcher, miller, was. surnames by occupation. https://www.houseofnames.com/armbruster-family-crest
This message was last edited by the player at 12:46, Sun 30 June 2019.

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 247):

Really? I could not find it in any of the online dictionaries. Though I did find it as a surname. Is it a french spelling perhaps?

In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 248):
swiss-german, in fact.

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 249):

Ah, that would explain not finding it in an English dictionary...

I assume given that there are gay players/ gay rights activists on here, that the term is being used strictly as a synonym for crossbowperson.

In reply to Ales Konstantin (msg # 251):
absolutely. i didn't even know it was any other thing than it's proper usage, honestly... leave it to urban dictionary to corrupt words, though. lol... i even saw the term in DF henchmen itself!
This message was last edited by the player at 13:06, Sun 30 June 2019.

First link that came up for me on google:
https://www.ancestry.com/name-...n?surname=armbruster

... but then I've trained my google well.

well, when i do get a crossbow, i plan to get a grappling hook that i can fire with the crossbow, to aid me in climbing. i'm also stealthy too, but my mail gives me a small penalty. not too bad, though...
This message was last edited by the player at 15:12, Sun 30 June 2019.

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 254):

I will have to look at what kind of special order that would be. It would have to be a collapsible grapnel in order to be fired any distance, and even then would be a minimum of -2 to aim, as much as -4... They probably have stats for it somewhere...



And yes, I am one of those sctivists. Far too many family members not to be.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 255):

Crossbow Grapnel....................................................................................................$300...........................................9 lbs
*thats from the 4th edition reference handbook, with all the great stuff.*
it's probably meant to be fired from a heavier crossbow, for sure. like fowling and military, or composite, and steel crossbows.
Oh, and we're getting a brute merc, that wants to know me, for his intro?
This message was last edited by the player at 16:36, Sun 30 June 2019.

In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 256):

He is a merc, will be traveling with you so to tie things up, you worked the same gig?

Damn it!I was onboarding someone, and they updated their character sheet while I was typing. Forty minutes wasted, allthe work lost. There is a format I need to see to make sense of a sheet. If you do GCA, I need to see it my way.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:17, Sun 30 June 2019.

Very bad Pixie. :(

Goes and sit in corner and leave character sheet alone.

In reply to Rosewood (msg # 259):

I did not communicate that I was working on it still, I had saved while I was reading up on flight speed and basic lift for 5 ST.

I just had a very traumatic experience dealing with a former player who kept rearranging his sheets, and GCA breaks up the templates into an unmanageable (for me) form.

Ok

I understand.  I post and talk to you before I do anything with my character sheet.
Now and in future.  That way I not make same mistake again.

I just looked though the picture.  No pixie picks at all.
I have to make do with close up of face I think.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 257):
yeah, i suppose i could know him from the guild.

Rosewood, you can also format and upload a picture of your own.  Takes a week or two to get approved, but then you can switch to it.  That's what I had to do; couldn't find anything vaguely close.

In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 263):

There are about four female pixies. Bummer. Two angels in male, and one that had a detailed archway behind that could be mistake for insect wings...
Rosewood is nearly done, the archer will be dine tomorrow and I will get back to posting

BTW how much for a flyswatter? :P

For a nominal fee, Ales will be glad to cast Rain of Fire and get rid of your insect/pixie problems. 😆

You folks may be mistaking pixies for fairies.  It's the latter that bite, at least according to Hoggle.

Well, I hear pixies are pretty good, as satay.

I'm just a simple swordsman though, a kid off the farm, just like Luke Skywalker except without the force powers, the hot sister he wants to boink, the cool sword, the dad who doesn't like sand, and the taste for blue milk.

In reply to Wiley Filcher (msg # 268):

"Is someone burning something without inviting me??"

In reply to Wiley Filcher (msg # 265):

In a bit of GURPS inspired fiction I was writing, The little winged fey without antennas were Ellyll, as per Fantasy Folk, and Pixies had the antennae and were kind of bluish, and would cast Curse by the swarm.
Now: swatting: They are sm-6, and have enhanced dodge and flight...Rosewood can launch attacks from -11 distance without rolling to hit...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 270):

I believe we have long since lost Gorgath, so we are going to lose him here, and in another day, at El Menir, all of the other disappearing characters, Sorsha, Mischa, Shroud.  That will leave the party as Gareth, Haveron, Amelia, Adept Yissthenis, Berry and Var.

Unfortunate but necessary... some were interesting, others not so much.

In reply to Oly (msg # 272):

So I should join the group New in Town, after seeing Benito start work?

In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 273):

Yes. That is where the action will be

In reply to Narrator (msg # 274):

Hope to be back tomorrow

Do you know Mordenkeinen's lubrication and Bigby's Helpful Hand?""
it's even funnier if you get the references

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 276):

Be back after the weekend

Why yes, I do believe the Evil Cleric is dead.


Granted... he was unconscious, but that no excuse for letting a berserk Ogress rip your head off.

My quest for a nice male pixie photo has been educational to say the least.
One I not sure I really wanted to experience.
Of the few male fairy photo on the net about 95%+ look like they are male strippers that have just come of the stage.  Some for hen parties other the following on act from the village people.

Well if I ever wanted to prove to myself I am straight I just have.
All I wanted was pixie with nice flowing wizard coat.
It has been an interesting experience.

I may have to commission my own pic.

(Sub note I have friends of all sexual out looks and have no issues).
This message was last edited by the player at 20:44, Tue 09 July 2019.

In reply to Rosewood (msg # 279):

I may be able to help you with that...

lol.  The internet can be an interesting and creepy place.  :)

[Private to GM: If you get a RTJ from Dr. Destructo, he's a long time GURPs guy who I have played with for 25 years now.  I actually taught him GURPs way back then, and converted him from the bad system.  He runs his own GURPs game here, and has done several over the years.  He'd be a good addition, although we'd probably want to find a thread where we could play together.

I tend to be more of the good guy, sometimes with lawful thrown in.  He plays a good gray character.  For example, he would play Aegis well, I think, given the way the character is written up.  At one point I mentioned a game run by Ceredyn where he had PCs running the bad guys in this large plot arc.  Dr. Destructo was the lead bad guy, and did a good job with it.  That said, I don't want to pigeon hole him.  He can play anything.  Most of all, he wouldn't be a behavior problem.  :)

For a while he ran a game where the main characters were all experimental blends of humans and animals.  If he does come by, he may want to play one of the animal demi-humans.  Not for me to decide, though.  I just happened to talk to him a bit today, and he expressed interest in the game.  Not sure if he'll commit though. ]

flame lord just may require essential water... that'd sure lick 'im

Licking Flame Lords is contraindicated, no matter how hot they may be.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 283):
roll a crit, and kool-aid man bursts through the masonry. "Oh yeah!" and quenches the flame lord, with his soft drink, that both kids and moms love, with 25% less sugar than leading soft drinks!
This message was lightly edited by the player at 22:41, Tue 09 July 2019.

A quick search for "male pixie wizard" turned up these:

https://www.figuren-shop.de/en...e-fly-away-5717.html

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/...65418176471/?lp=true
(this one has a bunch)

https://www.fairyglen.com/aa87870.html#.XSUbXzC_iXM

Removing "wizard" broadened the search a bit.

http://maysi-art.blogspot.com/...e-fairy-pixie_9.html

https://www.123rf.com/photo_11...tion-of-a-pixie.html


Of course, I don't know if these are at all close to what you're looking for, but maybe something here will help...

Sorry, Chye, you were correct.  Pages B347-348: 3-4 is always a crit, 5 is a crit on 15+ effective skill, and 6 is a crit on 16+ effective skill.

Likewise, 18 is always a crit fail, 17 is a crit fail unless effective skill is 16+ (and always a fail, even for  higher skill), and any roll that fails by 10 is always a crit.

I might have been recalling the 3rd Edition version, or something from Hero System (which I've played a fair amount of the past few years, as the usual GM for the group I was in is a long time Champions player).

In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 286):
it's cool. we always referred to a 3-4 crit, as a "natural" on the scale.
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In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 287):

Whew. Just spent about seven hours drawing. Will catch up tomorrow.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 288):

Total crap day at work; our Apps were down and most of the equipment. The amount of times I had to reboot stuff from the breaker... No rest for the wicked. I will be on early tomorrow morning.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 289):

Just spent several hours cleaning one of my recent commissions. I may not be on until Sunday. Been writing up plot/encounters for the new players

In reply to Narrator (msg # 290):

Al Menir is going to fast forward to the city; we are losing Gorgath, Shroud, Sorsha ans Mischa. A Druid will be joining you, but as your group consists of Gareth, Berry & company, Haveron and Amelia, it might be a good time for new characters to join, or to take over characters. Gorgath and Sorsha are really specific to their creators, so I would like to retire them..Shroud is a scout-thief, and because barely used, can be customized.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 291):

The druid will be also playing Shroud, so the party has a non-fire caster also different from Berry, and oce again a thief type.


Back on tomorrow, work was ugly. Aeems every other day they overbook fluoroscopy.
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In reply to Narrator (msg # 292):

Will be back Monday, spending time with my wife

In reply to Narrator (msg # 293):

Total SNAFU at work, could not post at all.will try again tomorrow. It has been harried, between people on sick leave, vacation, and four people leaving the job for work closer to home/ changing modalities.

Hello everyone.  I'm no stranger to gaming or GURPS, and the style I'm used to is a bit deeper into story telling so please forgive me if my posts are a bit meatier than the standard fare.  A friend got me in here who says this game is awesome, I'm excited to be a part of it.

Burke is my main but I have also taken over playing Shroud.

Welcome ... several of us play multiple characters, usually in different threads.

Welcome, Burke.  Lots of us here are more interested in the role play than the roll play, as it were.  I'm the same player as Ardenas Barehand and Chou-Zhen Mou.  Ardenas is a martial artist with a small talent for Movement college, and Chou-Zhen is a wouxia elementalist mage, fathered on a Sahudese woman by an Elder Thing.

I'm an Archer.  If I live long enough, I'll be the best one alive.

Hello all, Returning player playing a new character, I am the one that created Shroud, have fun with him!

In reply to Ryojin (msg # 299):

And also Zeelzeel Shadowspear!

Thanks for the warm welcomes.  Cant wait to get started.

I'm a big Shadowspear fan.  His blessing has saved my bacon at least a couple times in the last couple in-game days.  Possibly more than that, if the GM has remembered at times I haven't.

I was also going to make a pixie wizard/necromancer but I see someone is playing a pixie wizard already. Maybe I should roll up my Pixie knight again, or was he a barbarian? :D

Nah, we need the ultimate in useless... Pixie Thief!

Sorry, but pixie thief is useful, if you want the ULTIMATE then you go Pixie scout.

In reply to Ryojin (msg # 305):
a pixie thief would have trouble toting away their spoils.. lol he'd have to have some help, and a trap could more easily kill them, depending on it's nature. i think a scout is probably the best bet, for a pixie. that or a druid or wizard.

Are they even stronk enough to turn the tumblers?!?!

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 307):
good question... maybe with poltergeist

This is more or less what Locksmith is made for.  Fine manipulation, as for internal lock parts (but not limited to them), but without the automatic process that's Lockmaster.

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 309):

so they'd have to be a mage as well, just to be a thief of any sort, pretty much.

In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 310):

Just load a pixie scout up with resistance to poison and about a gallon of bladeblack, have em shoot from range -4 and it is -10 to hit them even without building them as an archer and throwing in a scout-wizard lens to make them invisible. Just saying.

I thought your job was to maintain game balance...?  Asking for a friend.

Oh, that's some serious min-maxing.  How about Pixie + Invis + Deathtouch?

In reply to Bechazruhk Burke (msg # 313):

Deathtouch mifht not kill you, and pixies in close combat are smears.
The above build is useless vs something with immunity or even the second tier of resistance to metabolic hazards, like, say orcs, and are flat out dead in no mana zones. A basic Archer can one shot them on a six or less, a scout on an 8 or better, and that is without aiming.


Be on early tomorrow, and probably Sunday, wife is working from home, so less screen time.

Nah, his job is to challenge your Character and your Party.  So build for what you want to fight the GM to throw at you to overcome your strengths and expose your weaknesses...

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 315):

sorry, won't get to posting today, heading out with the wife

In reply to Narrator (msg # 316):

Those joining Near Al Menir should first read On The Road to Al Menir, partly asan example of how not to handle splitting the party.

Berry, if you are with us still, sing out.

Haveron should pick up a guard retainer, at 63 points.
 I can't remember the name of the thread where you met up, but it might be The Wastrel's Hope... Several groups started there.

Will do boss.

Gareth, did you get a little misplaced?  You were in Al-Menir, and suddenly you're looking for shoes near the street collapse?

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 319):

Oops, rectified...

In reply to Gareth (msg # 320):

Will catch up tomorrow, been onboarding enemies...

My family and I will be opening a tavern soon, in the neighborhood.
(I have like, 5 people to write up. wife, two daughters, and a son.)
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In reply to Kazimir Yurick (msg # 322):

Be catching up tomorrow,  had a high art production day

In reply to Narrator (msg # 323):

Should be catching up tomorrow,  work left me with no downtime.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 324):

Be put this weekend with the wife, may pist before Monday, but probably then.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 325):

Btw, does anyone know if Berry's player Lamech is still active? If not, she is going to stay in Al Menir...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 326):

Can't help you...do not know sorry.

Not in any of my games

Yeah, sure, one lucky roll and the guy who can only cast Movement spells is suddenly the authority on magic...

Casting spells doesn't make one an authority on magic... says the guy who can't cast spells but is an authority on magic...  ;)

lol

In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 331):

For those going to Al Menir: there is not ever going to be any splitting of the party ever again.
Y'all need to discuss selling Gareth's loot. You may need a guide, or Amelia can spend her points on language and cultural familiarity in order to find a sage ir sell thibgs. The group id down to the Adept, Gareth, Haveron&Amelia, Burke & Shroud, and Ryojin.

Even with a native speaking Amelia, there won't be anyone who can read the language except for Haveron's new hire, unless Burke is a native Valdassyan with some spoken Aralaise. This group is going to be a little more interdependent, and if you are hiring a guide, that is $30 a day. Cost of living in the city is scaled from $150 per week each, unless you have miserly.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:45, Sat 03 Aug 2019.