Out of Character 8.   Posted by Narrator.Group: archive 0
Narrator
 GM, 6215 posts
 DM says
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Fri 19 Apr 2019
at 19:56
Out of Character 8
Here we go
Masugatan
 player, 244 posts
 street thug
Sat 20 Apr 2019
at 01:15
Out of Character 8
In Gurps DF, can you build Traps from Dex?
Chye Isuel
 player, 1457 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 20 Apr 2019
at 01:35
Out of Character 8
In reply to Masugatan (msg # 2):
you could get lock picking at DX/A and get traps at a -3 from your lock picking skill.
Lock Picking 2 15 DX/A
Traps - 12 IQ/A for example, is how I did mine.
if you wanna build traps up through DX, increase your lock picking, as well.

This message was last edited by the player at 01:39, Sat 20 Apr 2019.

Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1636 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sat 20 Apr 2019
at 04:31
Re: Out of Character 8
Masugatan:
In Gurps DF, can you build Traps from Dex?

Build?  Building Traps uses the same stat.  Setting a trap can default to DX in Basic (and DF).


In DFRPG for some reason Lockpicking is based on DX (probably to make it easier for Thieves) as is Traps*.

* Actually Traps use either IQ (setting), Per (spotting), or DX (disarming).



So we now need gwythaint to make a ruling on which ruleset we're using.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1191 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sat 20 Apr 2019
at 12:17
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth, I'm pretty sure they were talking about "build" as in "character build" -- that is, basing Traps skill on DX instead of IQ.  Apparently DF offers that option with Lockpicking.

For myself, I don't think that would pass the reality check.  Yes, picking a lock can/could be learned based just on feel and finger agility, without any underlying knowledge of how locks work (though I'd probably limit that to TL3 to TL6 mechanical locks only, if I were GM; many modern lock designs absolutely require you to know how the lock works to have any chance of picking it open).

Setting or especially constructing traps, on the other hand, I'd have to say (in my opinion) is much more about knowledge, and can't be based just on muscle memory or manual dexterity.  You have to know how a trap works to construct it, whether it's a simple figure-4 trigger for a spring loop or deadfall, or something based on a pressure plate that releases a string of crossbows behind a wall at the other end of the room.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1637 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sat 20 Apr 2019
at 23:35
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
Apparently DF offers that option with Lockpicking.

DF uses the skills straight out of Basic.

DFRPG changes Lockpicking to be DX based.

quote:
For myself, I don't think that would pass the reality check.

DFRPG doesn't care about the reality sniff test, it cares about "is it good for the game".  Apparently Kromm decided Lockpicks based on DX was good for the game.  I, shockingly agree.  It sort of solves the "the Thieves niche is easily abused" problem that DF has.  It doesn't solve the "the Thief Template sucks in combat" problem that they both have.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 107 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Sun 21 Apr 2019
at 05:31
Re: Out of Character 8
You mean the “high IQ characters can too easily adopt thief stuff” sort of thing?
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1638 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sun 21 Apr 2019
at 13:52
Re: Out of Character 8
Balir Ironhide:
You mean the “high IQ characters can too easily adopt thief stuff” sort of thing?

Yeah.  How many groups have a Lockpicker-Trapspringer that isn't a Thief?  I bet every group that doesn't have an Oly* in it still has at least one or two Characters that can easily sub in for a Thief at lockpicking and traps.




* I'm pretty sure Oly is the only Thief Character we have, though I strongly suspect Masugaton is aiming at going that direction as well.
Narrator
 GM, 6217 posts
 DM says
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Sun 21 Apr 2019
at 14:00
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 7):

That is part of the problem. Having +5 striking strength on surprise hardly equates to D&D backstabbing ability unless coupled with targeting vitals or chinks in armor.
I am definitely for spending points on Target Vitals (targeting maneuvers are by location, as in strike leg, strike neck, strike vitals, strike head, strike eye).
I was reading the whole "why clerics are weak" thread on Dungeon Fantastic, and am going to try a Brute+Priest build for clerics...

The per to detect, IQ to set, and dex to disarm works for traps, DF2 talked about making lockpicking a DX skill.
Building a 10 IQ fighter type into an expert trap spotter/builder/disarmer needs points dumped into per and the skill;
Increased perception would help in general.

Reanna is a thief, and Sorsha has a thief lens, Mischa is a thief/artificer

The winning build seems to be archer/burglar or skirmisher/burglar with weapon mastery.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 108 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Sun 21 Apr 2019
at 16:19
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm not as versed on DF as you are, but now that you have mentioned it I totally see the hole in the system.  I'll make a couple suggestions that might help with that.  For Mage/Sage builds, they just don't spend as much time on the Thief skills to have more than a passing interest in them.  You could house rule a few things to balance out the gap in a few ways:

* Limit them to 1 point in anything not a core skill for the high IQ folks, unless they specifically want to be a MU/TH build
* Make the skills one level harder for MU types, so DX/A skills become DX/H skills, which also discourages Building in that direction.
* I like adjusting the odd skill to be DX based, where it would make sense, to encourage that to be more of a TH skill.  They're going to have a high DX in almost all builds, so it would work.
* Maybe limiting PER for more bookish types would be the way to go, as a way to make the social skills more attractive to TH builds.

I don't want to encourage hacking up the system just to balance things out, but I always thought TH builds were hard because you had to have both IQ and DX.  You'd expect to have skills like Body Language be good for the class, but they frequently aren't because they ultimately base off of IQ.  You have to buy your PER up independently, when MU types get it as part of the build.

I hadn't really done more than noticing the issue, but I thought about it a lot more today.  Interesting.
Narrator
 GM, 6227 posts
 DM says
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Sun 21 Apr 2019
at 20:07
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 10):

Part of the built-in class disads are reduced move and per for casters, and thieves have full move and increased per but reduced will.
Scouts end up with the best per and move combos, and archer/burglar is quite good. We have a few brutes and squires with the adept lens as fighter/magic-users.
The problem with clerics is that fighter wise they are built as guards. Sure, 12 ST beats the 10 of the wizards, thieves, bards, and swashbucklers, but it isn't quite what you expect of a warrior priest.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 110 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Sun 21 Apr 2019
at 20:27
Re: Out of Character 8
Coming from the 3E GURPs, I keep forgetting so much of Dungeon Fantasy is based on the templates.  I imagine that does balance things out quite nicely.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1640 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sun 21 Apr 2019
at 23:48
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
I am definitely for spending points on Target Vitals (targeting maneuvers are by location, as in strike leg, strike neck, strike vitals, strike head, strike eye).

That works in games where vitals tend to exist in your enemies... Undead for instance tend to lack those vital spots... as do other traditional dungeon monsters (like ooze, slime, jellies)... so a lot of people who aren't Scouts, Swishypokelers, and Theifs (IE 'low damage dealers") tend to not bother with them.

quote:
I was reading the whole "why clerics are weak" thread on Dungeon Fantastic, and am going to try a Brute+Priest build for clerics...

I favor the Holier Warrior build myself (swap Born War Leader, Higher Purpose and Holiness 2 for Power Investiture 4, then 40 Advantage points into IQ and 10 Advantage points into spells).

Or just DX Cleric (spend 40 Advantage points on DX drop 10 spells and buy Combat Reflexes).  They still need to build their way into being a decent fighter (buying up ST and HT 14), but then so do Holy Warriors.

quote:
The winning build seems to be archer/burglar or skirmisher/burglar with weapon mastery.

Yeah, Scoutlar and Theifbuckler are stronk builds.





Balir Ironhide:
I don't want to encourage hacking up the system just to balance things out, but I always thought TH builds were hard because you had to have both IQ and DX.

Which is wht DFRPG swapped Lockpicking and Traps (Disarming) over to DX.

quote:
You have to buy your PER up independently, when MU types get it as part of the build.

As gwythaint mentioned, Wizard Templates lose Per.  In fact, they're the only Template that does.  Every other DF Template either keeps Per equal to IQ or buys it up (Scout and Thief).





Balir Ironhide:
Coming from the 3E GURPs, I keep forgetting so much of Dungeon Fantasy is based on the templates.  I imagine that does balance things out quite nicely.

Yeah, sticking to Templates means no Thief, no decent Lockpicking or Traps (Scouts can get good at Traps).

Allowing strong deviations from or outright ignoring Templates (as this game does) means no need for a Thief.

Granted... as several DF game journals I follow has shown, even sticking to Templates and not allowing Out-Of-Template skills, there is still no need for Thieves.  Doors and locks can be forced and traps can simply be survived.

That's why several GMs out there support the Theifbuckler and Scoutlar builds (by which I mean "make Lockpicking and Traps in Template for them and do nothing else").

This message was last edited by the player at 23:50, Sun 21 Apr 2019.

Gorgath
 player, 442 posts
 HP 20/20 FP 11/13
Sun 21 Apr 2019
at 23:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Thieves need to be able to do something fantastic. All the other classes have the ability to above and beyond a regular person. Spells, weapon mastery, etc.

Thieves need something other than hitting hard.

Shadow jumps

Spider-walk on walls

Non magical disguise
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1642 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Mon 22 Apr 2019
at 01:13
Re: Out of Character 8
Gorgath:
Thieves need to be able to do something fantastic.

In my home games I've rolled Camouflage and Silence together into a new Advantage called "Shadow Walking".  It costs 5 per level, adds to Stealth just like Silence does but also counts versus sight.

For Thiefs it just works as long as they are being 'stealthy' (ie rolling Stealth) and they can buy 6 levels, for Halflings (up to 4 lvls) it only works if their are larger creatures or objects around to 'hide amongst', for Shadow Elves (also up to 4 lvls) they literally need to be stealthy in an area that gives Darkness Penalties.  The Racial and Template versions stack.


I also let Thiefs swap out High Manual Dexterity and Perfect Balance for 4 levels of Thief Talent which adds to Acrobatics, Climbing, Lockpicking, Stealth, and Traps.

I've been told this makes Thief more popular by my Players... but... it still hasn't netted an overall increase in Thief Characters being made.  My Players still prefer Thiefbucklers and Scoutlars.
Narrator
 GM, 6228 posts
 DM says
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Mon 22 Apr 2019
at 20:16
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 15):

I have had success with thieves at different point ranges; I have seen play where a 125 point cutpurse with surprise striking strength +5 and luck kept up with the brutes in the party. I think the power ups from DF11 like non-detection should be available out of the gate. Everyone should be able to be awesome im their niche. While I don't mind dwarves having traps and lockpicking, or scouts having traps, And the odd dabbling sage with curiosity, the stand alone thief should be best at these things. I know the template reads as normal guy with expert skills, I usually try to build mine with combat reflexes. This needs revisiting.

I will be back early tomorrow.
Grimaldi
 player, 384 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 07:19
Re: Out of Character 8
Alchemy is a cool and useful skill, but it takes time expenditures to brew the potions. often weeks per batch, depending on the difficulties and ingredients involved. when a few days game time can last years, how is alchemy a feasible skill to have, when the brew times are involved for potions?
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1643 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 10:23
Re: Out of Character 8
Grimaldi:
...how is alchemy a feasible skill to have, when the brew times are involved for potions?

This is where a clear cut delineation of which set of rules we're using would be useful.

In DF/RPG Alchemy doesn't take weeks, it takes one week and reduces the cost of potions by 20% on a success, increases them by 10% on a failure.  The idea being your making the potions yourself.  Armoury and Poison does the same.  Herb Lore cuts the cost of Natural Preparations and Healing Potions in half (or adds 10% on a failure).
Grimaldi
 player, 385 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 10:57
Re: Out of Character 8
useful. Thanks!
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 400 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 17:18
Re: Out of Character 8
Nodwin looked very hard at Herb Lore and a lab with his last point expenditures, but decided against it.  Reading up on the threads, it has been something like 4 days of play time for this group, and 3 years in driver time.  Based on the character build it should be near the top of the list.  As a player, it seemed much less practical.  This group has quite a bit happening in the immediate time frame.  We wouldn't see the results of our Herb Lore for quite some time.

For the record, that's not meant to be negative or positive.  It's a descriptive.  That's just how this game runs, and I'm fine with it.  We have interesting stuff to do.  :)
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 851 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Tue 23 Apr 2019
at 19:27
Re: Out of Character 8
Raises hand.

I guess I'm more or less what Jareth called a "scoutlar" -- I've got lockpicking and traps, climbing and stealth, none at high skill, but enough I'm more likely to succeed than not -- but I consider myself an archer.  The other stuff is just what a shop guard has to do to get ahead enough to buy adventuring equipment -- light armor, decent bow, and that Quiver...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1645 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 03:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Nodwin Zideqick:
Reading up on the threads, it has been something like 4 days of play time for this group, and 3 years in driver time.

I'm not sure gwythaint would make it take two weeks in game to brew something up (especially if it's literally "20% off the price" rather than "brew up something not purchasable").  Maybe a day or two, and we could set those days as "getting stuff done days" which we find makes them go by much, much faster.


So, how about it GM?  How long does Alchemy, Herb Lore, and Poison brewing take in game?




Mario Crowfoot:
I guess I'm more or less what Jareth called a "scoutlar"...

You're an Archent.  Mostly Archer with some Agent mixed in.

Just like Jareth was a Psagent.  Mostly Sage, a very little Psi, and a little Agent.  Though... it just got turned into Psigent.
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 852 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 08:52
Re: Out of Character 8
All this template mixing and labeling makes my head hurt.

I'm just one of the Merry Men.  With aspirations to be Robin Hood.
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 401 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 14:00
Re: Out of Character 8
Well, based on us taking over a row of slum houses, we're currently in the 'Hood'.  You're half way there.  Rename yourself Robin, and as far as I'm concerned you have it covered.  You'll just have to steal from some rich people so we can gentrify the neighborhood...
Iskander
 player, 1611 posts
 Iskander Cambriel Almonte
 Valdassyan Adventurer.
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 17:43
Re: Out of Character 8
I have the skills of high military  command, a pirate, and thief, and a swordsman and martial artist, who has some slight magical affinity and arcane knowledge. mostly, to help him identify and use magical items, than for any future spells...
Chye Isuel
 player, 1461 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 17:51
Re: Out of Character 8
*Skills* (51)
Karate 4 15 DX/H
Judo 4 15 DX/H
Pole Arm 2 15 DX/A
Two-Hand Sword 2 15 DX/A
Fast-Draw Two-Hand Sword 1 15 DX/E (+1)
Flail 4 15 DX/H
Bow 1 14 DX/A
Fast-Draw Arrow 1 15+1 DX/E
Swimming 1 13 HT/E
Climbing 1 14 DX/A
Stealth 2 15 DX/A
Acrobatics 2 14 DX/H
Lock Picking 2 15 DX/A
Traps - 12 IQ/A
Area Knowledge (Northport) 2 13 IQ/E
Current Affairs (Little Sahud) 2 13 IQ/E
Leadership 1 12+1 IQ/A
Soldier (TL4) 4 13 IQ/A
Savoir Faire 1 12+2 (military) IQ/E
Savoir Faire 1 12+2 (High Society) IQ/E
Savoir Faire 2 13+2 (Dojo) IQ/E
Tournament Law/Games - 12 (Sahudese Martial Arts)
Diplomacy 4 12+2 IQ/H
Carousing 1 13+2 HT/E
Bartender - 12 IQ/A
Cooking 1 12 IQ/E (Sahudese)
Butcher 1 14 DX/A
Performance/Ritual 2 12+2 (Sahudese/Aralaise) IQ/A
Singing 1 13+3 HT/E
Musical Instrument 4 12+3 Lute IQ/H
Musical Instrument - 13 Murin Khuur (Horsehead Fiddle)
Musical Instrument - 13  Zither IQ/H
Musical Composition - 13 IQ/H (Strings)
-
*Maneuvers* (+10)
Targeted Attack 4 15 (two-hand sword/naginata, using sword technique) [Neck] *+1 w/ weapon bond*
Targeted attack 4 15 (flail) [Head] *+1 w/ weapon bond*
Cat Stance 2 15 (karate)
Arm/Wrist Lock - 15 (judo)
Knee Strike - 14 (karate)
Head Butt - 14 (karate)
Elbow Strike - 13 (karate)
Choke Hold - 13 (judo)
Disarm - 15 (judo)
Break fall - 15 (judo)
Binding - 15 (judo)
Throw - 15 (judo)
Trip - 15 (judo)
I'm more focused, but still a good mix of social and thief skills mixed in

This message was last edited by the player at 17:52, Wed 24 Apr 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6234 posts
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Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 20:14
Re: Out of Character 8
Alchemy takes he shortest posible time without the artificer specific advantages like instant gadgeteer.


Work has ben hectic, and I have a family thing tonight, will try to catch up to
Grimaldi
 player, 388 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 20:46
Re: Out of Character 8
you could take the efficient perk to shorten brew times to 80%, of what they would be normally without increasing risk of mishap, right?
Narrator
 GM, 6235 posts
 DM says
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Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 21:08
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 28):

I need to look it up, reread DF4
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1646 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Wed 24 Apr 2019
at 21:48
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
I need to look it up, reread DF4

There is nothing in DF 4 about potion brewing that doesn't also require Quick Gadgeteer (and even then it's real thin on the ground "GM Fiat" level of rules).

What you want is Pyramid 3-82 Magical Creations, Dungeon Brewmaster by PKitty.  If you don't have it I'm happy enough to copy the two-three paragraphs of DF'ed brewing rules and PM them to you.

But essentially it boils down to (HAH!):  Takes one day, requires 20% of the potion's purchase value in reagents and a Lab, takes a skill roll.  Taking more time gives the Alchemist a skill bonus just like Takes Extra Time (but the potion cannot be left, the brewer must be attending it a full work day, every day).  Chemicals can be rushed and done in 4 hours for a -5, but not potions (unless you're a Quick Gadgeteer).
Narrator
 GM, 6237 posts
 DM says
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Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 16:20
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 30):

A one day turnaround is fine, we meed to get you a lab (I would recomend the former cultist rooms for that, out of sight, crit failures are less likely to set the house on fire.
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 402 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 17:10
Re: Out of Character 8
OOC  Nodwin has Herb Lore, but not much money.

I recommend this:
* Sell the gem for a crap ton of money.
* If someone can use the sword as an upgrade, I'm all for it, otherwise sell it.
* Make an agreement among all the party members that we will pay for the lab off the top, and divide the rest.
* Split the rest of the money among the group.
* Split whatever the lab produces among everyone evenly, until we have paid for the lab in product.

Anny additions or modifications are welcome.

Narrator
 GM, 6238 posts
 DM says
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Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 17:27
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 32):

Or use the stone to wish for an upgrade to the lair, including a furnished lab, thereby not selling a potential nuclear weapon?
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 403 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 17:29
Re: Out of Character 8
I consider that a worthy inclusion.

Perhaps we can wish that Thanos never created the infinity gauntlet...?
Brodak
 player, 335 posts
 orc warrior
 brutish but honorable
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 17:31
Re: Out of Character 8
Hmm, sound Good... me thinking, talk later .... smoke drifts upward...
Narrator
 GM, 6249 posts
 DM says
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Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 20:24
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Brodak (msg # 35):

Goig tobe scarce this weekend, watching Endgame.  Anyone else getting 404 errors here lately?
Balir Ironhide
 player, 114 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 20:29
Re: Out of Character 8
Jase mentioned the file system filled up due to log files.  Probably just clutter from the past 10 years or so.  I expect the issue is resolved by this point.
Oly
 player, 1073 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 1 Guild badge
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 21:34
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 36):

Yes, almost everyone did.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1193 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Fri 26 Apr 2019
at 23:12
Re: Out of Character 8
I had 404 last night and this morning.  I could get the site menu, but NONE of the links from it would load; at that point, I figured the site admins already knew there was a problem and would fix it when they could.
Darius Kopaki
 player, 135 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Sat 27 Apr 2019
at 06:54
Re: Out of Character 8
Me too; any subpage (i.e. anything not rpol.net) 404-failed constantly for two days or so. It seems to work now.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1648 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sat 27 Apr 2019
at 11:23
Re: Out of Character 8
Balir Ironhide:
Jase mentioned the file system filled up due to log files.  Probably just clutter from the past 10 years or so.  I expect the issue is resolved by this point.

Yeah, the harddrive had filled with logs.  Jase cleared it out so we're good for another decade...
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1194 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sat 27 Apr 2019
at 16:17
Re: Out of Character 8
Nice job of buying future-resistant systems.  Now if only some process would automatically delete the oldest logs if space is needed for new ones -- and limit the space used to a settable value, so there's still room for the message base.
Ales Konstantin
 player, 738 posts
 Spellsword
Sat 27 Apr 2019
at 17:14
Re: Out of Character 8
Ok, cool. I was wondering if something was up.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 115 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Sat 27 Apr 2019
at 17:18
Re: Out of Character 8
I work in computer support for Unix/Linux, and you would be surprised by how many professional business admins let exactly the same thing happen.  It's better now than it used to be, but I wouldn't throw any shade at anyone for that event.  It has been 10 years after all.  Now I'm making a few assumptions in saying this, but I also have a feeling they are pretty accurate.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1651 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sat 27 Apr 2019
at 17:40
Re: Out of Character 8
Balir Ironhide:
It's better now than it used to be, but I wouldn't throw any shade at anyone for that event.  It has been 10 years after all.

And... Jase isn't paid for this... and he's been exceptionally busy and away from the site more and more the last 5 years... and a handful of his old mods moved on*... and...

This whole thing is a labor of love for Jase and the Mods.


* As evidenced by the Avatar Image threads where the new Image Mods have been dropping every ball the last 6 months (not exactly their fault, but...)...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1652 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Mon 29 Apr 2019
at 06:21
Re: Out of Character 8
An excellent idea for you gwythaint... https://orwin-dm.tumblr.com/po...amned-murder-machine

Everybody can thank me later!
Chye Isuel
 player, 1466 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Mon 29 Apr 2019
at 06:37
Re: Out of Character 8
aw man! that'd be like scrooge mcduck's worst nightmare.
Narrator
 GM, 6254 posts
 DM says
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Mon 29 Apr 2019
at 15:13
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 46):

The high DR Pudding template from Monsters3 is supposed to describe a protoplasmic creature with gravel stuck to it, so that would do nicely, except it would have treasure!
Anita Drake
 player, 1 post
 Adventuress
Mon 29 Apr 2019
at 22:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 48):

A new Thief character (but old player), a mugger for the Juniors, with a fence as an ally. Now, how to introduce her to the thread?
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 395 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Mon 29 Apr 2019
at 23:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Looks Like a Muslim Female...
Anita Drake
 player, 2 posts
 Adventuress
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 00:28
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 50):

Or someone who likes to be discrete...
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 396 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 00:40
Re: Out of Character 8
Walking around in black wrappings isn't my concept of discrete ... but that's just my opinion.
Ales Konstantin
 player, 741 posts
 Spellsword
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 02:06
Re: Out of Character 8
Hey GM are you going to post in Rice Run again? Just wanted to keep it from slipping down to page 2...
Anita Drake
 player, 3 posts
 Adventuress
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 02:36
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 52):

It certainly helps in being not recognized...if I ever ditch it!

Or is this one better?

This message was last edited by the player at 02:36, Tue 30 Apr 2019.

Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 397 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 03:07
Re: Out of Character 8
A bit better I think ... but then Jocelyn is not exactly shy about who she is ...  I am sure there are a couple where they lady conceals her face with out looking like someone to be concerned about.  We girls need to stick together now.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1612 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 04:13
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 55):

True indeed, we do.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1467 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 07:04
Re: Out of Character 8
sssisssstas, are doin' it, fo themmmmmmsellllllllllllllllllllllves!
Narrator
 GM, 6258 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 17:36
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ales Konstantin (msg # 53):

Posting today
Ales Konstantin
 player, 742 posts
 Spellsword
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 17:45
Re: Out of Character 8
Cool.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1469 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 1 May 2019
at 00:37
Re: Out of Character 8
who are these new and curious PCs?
Anita Drake
 player, 7 posts
 Adventuress
Wed 1 May 2019
at 01:24
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 60):

Nobody at all. Just a couple of immigrants looking for work. Nobody of note...
Benito Drake
 player, 2 posts
 Respectable shopkeeper
Wed 1 May 2019
at 01:26
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 61):

Well, that is not entirely true. I can create some fine gear, and buy and sell of some as well.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1470 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 1 May 2019
at 16:55
Re: Out of Character 8
"Nodwin speaks wisely... I regret that I have no skills in evaluating truth of statements, but at least the merchant should be given a chance. The security bitch is not needed and should be sent away, she is probably a guild plant anyway."

LOL xD
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 399 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Wed 1 May 2019
at 16:59
Re: Out of Character 8
Just playing the Character...
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 412 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Wed 1 May 2019
at 17:40
Re: Out of Character 8
Still funny.  :)
We have to get you and Gareth in the same group. Social skills for the win.
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 400 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Wed 1 May 2019
at 17:55
Re: Out of Character 8
No, I think not... wholly different driving forces involved. They'd get along like fire and gunpowder!  Short, hot, lots of flash and nothing of value produced.
Gareth
 player, 410 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Wed 1 May 2019
at 20:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 65):

Go on. Nothing of Value? Entertainment is the whole reason for this game!
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 861 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Wed 1 May 2019
at 22:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Nothing of value?  That combination can break rocks to release the gems or ore within!
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1200 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Wed 1 May 2019
at 23:01
Re: Out of Character 8
Oh, good grief.  Am I a little slow?  Or is Ashbury not Martin's father's brother?  O.o
Ales Konstantin
 player, 744 posts
 Spellsword
Wed 1 May 2019
at 23:23
Re: Out of Character 8
All of this going over my head. Right now, all I can thinking about is a menagerie of supernatural creatures that are blocking the road.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1473 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 2 May 2019
at 12:01
Re: Out of Character 8
you know, I'm sort of interested in joining junior house. i have an idea for a character that could be of good use...
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 414 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Thu 2 May 2019
at 16:35
Re: Out of Character 8
Nodwin needs a bit of guidance from the GM before answering Jareth.  I have happened on a bit of a religious question which I cannot answer.

[Private to GM: OK, ethical question for you...

Create Food costs half the fatigue if you're taking something "close" to food and turning it into food.  What are the moral and ethical ramifications if Nodwin goes down to the sub-basement and creates a bunch of food out of a dead body?  I can see a lot of people being disgusted by that.  I can also see a bunch of people who would appreciate the practical use of magic (2 birds, one stone - body gone + food).  Plus, there is the soul of the dead person to consider.  Would Vejovis consider this acceptable, and affront to the faith, or something in between...?  I want to know what you think before I act on it.  If appropriate I can roll Theology, just let me know.
]
Narrator
 GM, 6269 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 2 May 2019
at 19:40
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 72):

That is a very practical question, but I would say Nodwin would not accept that idea. Good question in the pm, though.

[Private to Nodwin Zideqick:that would be suited to a less benign death cult than the SJW that is Vejovis.
More suited would be using shape earth to dig a grave, and casting it again to bury.
]
Narrator
 GM, 6276 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 3 May 2019
at 18:15
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 73):

I am likely to be scarce , might be posting on Sunday.
Narrator
 GM, 6287 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 7 May 2019
at 21:36
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 74):

Had a meeting at work yesterday when I would usually be catching up, today I had a deadline for digitally cleaning several projects, and errands to run I wasn't planning on. I will be in a place tomorrow where I can catch up, thank you for besting with me.
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 423 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Tue 7 May 2019
at 21:37
Re: Out of Character 8
We're your besties.
Anita Drake
 player, 10 posts
 Adventuress
Tue 7 May 2019
at 21:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 76):

All good. Gives me less excuse not to study for my exam today!
Narrator
 GM, 6299 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 9 May 2019
at 20:12
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 77):

Got stuck at work babysitting a disabled patoent because the EMTs went out for coffe, lost a half hour of screen time, will try and catch up tomorrow.
Narrator
 GM, 6307 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 10 May 2019
at 20:57
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 78):

So much for catching up today; seven freaking enemas (15 fluoro cases total) worked through my break and an hour past my shift because the scheduling team needs a foot enema. Smdh.
Brodak
 player, 340 posts
 orc warrior
 brutish but honorable
Fri 10 May 2019
at 21:03
Re: Out of Character 8
Or maybe just an enema with a foot long nozzle! That would be sure to make their eyes roll.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 119 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Fri 10 May 2019
at 21:05
Re: Out of Character 8
Water Jet for the win!!!
Sounds like you need the 3d version...
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 864 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Fri 10 May 2019
at 22:53
Re: Out of Character 8
Now that's a shopping list!  I'll need to borrow some money...
Narrator
 GM, 6312 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 10 May 2019
at 23:01
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 82):

Half a pound of gold is about 130 cpins worth $80 each...
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 865 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Sat 11 May 2019
at 18:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 82):

Half a pound of gold is about 130 coins worth $80 each...


Oh, thought that was to be paid after.  If that's up front, then all I have to worry about is how not to get mugged after spending the first one.

This message was last edited by the GM at 18:34, Sat 11 May 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6320 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 11 May 2019
at 18:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 84):

That is true. Someone in your party did detect the location of a bunch of silver though
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 402 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Sat 11 May 2019
at 20:11
Re: Out of Character 8
Twas I....
Clarence Montague
 player, 238 posts
 Torchbearer
Sun 12 May 2019
at 10:24
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 86):

Do you need a hand to collect it? Better than dead bodies...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1671 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sun 12 May 2019
at 14:28
Re: Out of Character 8
Clarence Montague:
Do you need a hand to collect it? Better than dead bodies...

Do you really want to go hying off with just three* of you into the Dungeon over a pouch of silver?

/incredulous look


* Presuming that Charlene is up for it...

(I mean Jareth would be up for it, but he's crazy in the casaba)
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 866 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Sun 12 May 2019
at 18:16
Re: Out of Character 8
We'll look for the silver next time we're down there.  While watching out for stuff that doesn't belong (like bhole, ghula, etc.) and stuff that does (like maned rats and slorn).
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1673 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sun 12 May 2019
at 19:37
Re: Out of Character 8
Mario Crowfoot:
We'll look for the silver next time we're down there.  While watching out for stuff that doesn't belong (like bhole, ghula, etc.) and stuff that does (like maned rats and slorn).

If slorn are up in the areas we're likely to be in, something went awry.
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 403 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Sun 12 May 2019
at 19:48
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth Mooncalled:
If slorn are up in the areas we're likely to be in, something went awry. 



Oh! and like that has never happened before!
Grimaldi
 player, 402 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Mon 13 May 2019
at 10:06
Re: Out of Character 8
few creatures born, meaner and dumber, than a slorn...

This message was undeleted by the player at 10:07, Mon 13 May 2019.

Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1207 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Mon 13 May 2019
at 21:49
Re: Out of Character 8
Grimaldi:
few creatures born, meaner and dumber, than a slorn...


Yep.  Too dumb to die.  Have to kill 'em at least a couple times.
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 872 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Mon 13 May 2019
at 21:56
Re: Out of Character 8
quote:
"Rabbits, Chickens, Cows, and Ducks..Turn the lights on! Fiat Lux!"


Seems to me I've read of that specific version of that spell resulting in access to much liquid soap and an overheavy cart with poor capacity...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1674 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Mon 13 May 2019
at 23:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Chou-Zhen Mou:
quote:
"Rabbits, Chickens, Cows, and Ducks..Turn the lights on! Fiat Lux!"


Seems to me I've read of that specific version of that spell resulting in access to much liquid soap and an overheavy cart with poor capacity...

It was a car not a cart...
Narrator
 GM, 6327 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 14 May 2019
at 01:43
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 95):

Goung to be catching up Wednesday
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1676 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Tue 14 May 2019
at 03:11
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth Mooncalled:
Chou-Zhen Mou:
quote:
"Rabbits, Chickens, Cows, and Ducks..Turn the lights on! Fiat Lux!"


Seems to me I've read of that specific version of that spell resulting in access to much liquid soap and an overheavy cart with poor capacity...

It was a car not a cart...

It took me for-freaking-ever to find that sidebar (though I guess a Fiat would be over heavy with poor capacity)...

"All right. You get light. You also get a tunnel full of assorted farm animals. You also get a red metal thing with wheels, which blocks the tunnel behind you. It looks like a small wagon, but there’s no place to hook the horses. On one end is a big white bottle."
Sederic
 player, 266 posts
 half elven
 sword mage
Tue 14 May 2019
at 13:04
Re: Out of Character 8
i couldn't resist. when i rolled that crit, for the light spell, it just seemed so appropriate!

This message was last edited by the player at 13:04, Tue 14 May 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6328 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 14 May 2019
at 15:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Sederic (msg # 98):

Make another roll t see how critty the crit is (permanent sunlight, barnyard animals, sports car and soap all on the table)
Sederic
 player, 267 posts
 half elven
 sword mage
Tue 14 May 2019
at 16:42
Re: Out of Character 8
12:38, Today: Sederic rolled 16 using 3d6. how's that?
Narrator
 GM, 6329 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 14 May 2019
at 17:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Sederic (msg # 100):

Low impact, minimally weird crit. If the second or third rolls were under 6, it would have gotten funky.
Grimaldi
 player, 403 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Tue 14 May 2019
at 17:44
Re: Out of Character 8
that's a good thing, then!
Narrator
 GM, 6331 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 14 May 2019
at 18:31
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 102):

Rolling a second crit would have had far reaching effects; Jocelyn (at the very beginning) rolled a 4 plus a 6 plus a 5 casting winged knife, and ended up making her target look like a pincushion (with 37 knives) and attracted the interest of the Lord of Knives...
Mal'ga Mar critted on seek object, and will always know where the item is.
Zarat created a simple illusion that lasted four hours. A double crit on your light spell could have been permanent continual light. A crit weird result woud have got you the farm animals and the car, and some curious elder things...
Grimaldi
 player, 405 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Tue 14 May 2019
at 18:58
Re: Out of Character 8
permenant light down there woulda been must useful.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1621 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Tue 14 May 2019
at 20:13
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 104):

Not so sure about the curious Elder things though...lol
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 873 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Tue 14 May 2019
at 22:13
Re: Out of Character 8
Oh, I'm not Curious at the disadvantage level, just the player character level...  ;)
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 428 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Tue 14 May 2019
at 22:32
Re: Out of Character 8
A couple ways to look at that:
A.  Wow, an elder thing that is curious...
B.  Wow, that's a curious looking elder thing...
I think either could potentially go badly.
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 874 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Wed 15 May 2019
at 08:47
Re: Out of Character 8
Oh, yes.

Either way doesn't bode well for mere humans.
Ymid
 NPC, 57 posts
 Mysterious sorcerer
 With one huge eye for a h
Wed 15 May 2019
at 14:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 108):

I have Curiosity -15
Chye Isuel
 player, 1481 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 15 May 2019
at 15:06
Re: Out of Character 8
i usually give it to my players, but at the -5 level.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1677 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Wed 15 May 2019
at 20:49
Re: Out of Character 8
Chye Isuel:
i usually give it to my players, but at the -5 level.

Players constantly checking out what's in your cupboards eh?
Narrator
 GM, 6341 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 15 May 2019
at 20:58
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 111):

Wil catch up tomorrow. Having trouble with focus.
Reanna Draegan
 player, 360 posts
 Burglar, scout
 Rank 2 Admin badge
Wed 15 May 2019
at 22:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 112):

Stalking Balar has been archived, so I cant post that I approach cautiously, keeping to where there is cover...
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1211 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Wed 15 May 2019
at 22:52
Re: Out of Character 8
Reanna, there's a new thread you'll most likely be directed to when the GM returns.
Reanna Draegan
 player, 362 posts
 Burglar, scout
 Rank 2 Admin badge
Thu 16 May 2019
at 00:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 114):

So there is!
Narrator
 GM, 6359 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 17 May 2019
at 01:56
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Reanna Draegan (msg # 115):

Be running about with the wife for a few days, not sure when posting next (might be Monday, might be sooner)
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 868 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Fri 17 May 2019
at 08:58
Re: Out of Character 8
So, Yr-go is Elder for tribble?  O.o
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1680 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Fri 17 May 2019
at 11:44
Re: Out of Character 8
Mario Crowfoot:
So, Yr-go is Elder for tribble?  O.o

Except instead of a furpile in your food supply, you get fungi in the eye...
Narrator
 GM, 6360 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 17 May 2019
at 13:31
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 118):

https://hereticwerks.blogspot....15/05/yr-go.html?m=1
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 869 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Fri 17 May 2019
at 22:47
Re: Out of Character 8
Pardon me, I'll be out shopping for some sort of eye protection to wear while sleeping...
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 433 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Fri 17 May 2019
at 23:08
Re: Out of Character 8
I had no idea his little flying pet was an eater.  :(
I'll have to have Nodwin apologize to Clarence...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1681 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sat 18 May 2019
at 03:38
Re: Out of Character 8
Nodwin Zideqick:
I had no idea his little flying pet was an eater.  :(

Well, you weren't playing Nodwin when that revelation originally dropped a few years ago.   I was expecting something vaguely horrible to happen, they are called 'eye-thieves' for a reason.
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 404 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Sat 18 May 2019
at 20:52
Re: Out of Character 8
I didn't remember that either ... seems they need to be constrained.
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 435 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Sat 18 May 2019
at 21:12
Re: Out of Character 8
True statement there.  I did read over the whole thread before I started the character.  However, I'm sure it was a much bigger revelation back then, and got more eye time.  I didn't retain anything about the yr-go until the GM put up something.  I was as uneducated on the topic as Nodwin.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1683 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sat 18 May 2019
at 21:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Nodwin Zideqick:
However, I'm sure it was a much bigger revelation back then, and got more eye time.

It was a single line said by Jareth once with probably much more ominous sentences around it...

Msg #445, Junoirs link to a message in this game

Jareth:
Jareth unhooks the Sewer Key from his greatcoat and hands it too Nodwin, "If this go terrible, get everyone out.

T'e flying eye thing is a Yr-go, an 'Eye Thief', a servitor construct.  It's Master is coming an demands we do not move.  If this good or bad...  I do not know.  Gonna be strange at t'e very least."



He sighs pulls out his flask and takes a long pull, "An people wonder why I drink..."



See?  First and last lines, very ominous.
Narrator
 GM, 6361 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 19 May 2019
at 02:17
Re: Out of Character 8
Just in case you haven't seen it, this is the bone gate, your houseguest and their pet:


https://drive.google.com/file/...lE/view?usp=drivesdk
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 870 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Sun 19 May 2019
at 11:10
Re: Out of Character 8
So, what we have here is the equivalent of an out of town guest's dog getting into the pantry and eating all the bacon.  Only the bacon crock is a person...
Narrator
 GM, 6362 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 19 May 2019
at 12:07
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 127):

And there was no established agreement about conduct on the part of either.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1684 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sun 19 May 2019
at 14:23
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
And there was no established agreement about conduct on the part of either.

A stranger in a strange land, the Ymid knows not our custom of hospitality.
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 436 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Sun 19 May 2019
at 14:29
Re: Out of Character 8
As Scotty would say:
Eye, Captain!

...oh wait, that was Aye...

(please don't dock me a point for that)
Ymid
 NPC, 59 posts
 Mysterious sorcerer
 With one huge eye for a h
Sun 19 May 2019
at 14:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 130):

Boo!

This message was last edited by the player at 16:23, Mon 20 May 2019.

Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1685 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Mon 20 May 2019
at 00:05
Re: Out of Character 8
Has Christine just admitted she's been a snake in trousers all along, or did Dareos go full Sethygg?


anaconda:
How spread out are the archers? ie for Area spells, how many could I get in 2 or 3 yard diameter?

anaconda
 player, 11 posts
Mon 20 May 2019
at 00:12
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 132):

I must be slow, but I missed the implication...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1686 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Mon 20 May 2019
at 02:31
Re: Out of Character 8
anaconda:
I must be slow, but I missed the implication...

Are you a new Player added to the roster of the Abandoned Abbey?  Because you posted to that thread (Beneath the cloister's winery)...  hence my referral to two Characters in that group, one of whom who hates/fears trouser snakes* and the other who worships a snakey god.



* Or maybe it was just sex in general.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1484 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Mon 20 May 2019
at 11:23
Re: Out of Character 8
lol that's funneh...
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1624 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Mon 20 May 2019
at 11:25
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 135):

oops...Lol. I think I posted as wrong character...but at least the error is humorous!
Chye Isuel
 player, 1485 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Mon 20 May 2019
at 11:27
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 135):

judy was a prude!  her friend was scared of dudes! they both went to northport, and joined the adventurer's guild! oh i don't know why! oh i don't know why! perhaps they'll die! *oh yeah* perhaps they'll die! *oh yeah* perhaps they'll dieeeeee! *ohhhhyeahhhh*
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1687 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Mon 20 May 2019
at 12:52
Re: Out of Character 8
Christine Bjorn:
oops...Lol. I think I posted as wrong character...but at least the error is humorous!

I figured it was you misposting as Aoife's ally.
Narrator
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Tue 21 May 2019
at 19:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 138):

Be posting tomorrow
Narrator
 GM, 6405 posts
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Fri 24 May 2019
at 23:26
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 139):

Enjoy the weekend, be traveling with my wife. See you Monday
Narrator
 GM, 6406 posts
 DM says
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Mon 27 May 2019
at 21:56
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 140):

Back tomorrow, hope the weekend was good
Narrator
 GM, 6407 posts
 DM says
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Tue 28 May 2019
at 19:55
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 141):

Work allowed no time to post. I apologize,  but this is stressing me out.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1631 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Tue 28 May 2019
at 20:56
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 142):

From our perspective, this is just a game, though a great one, but not worth stressing out. Stressing out about Real Life, well, don't stress too much. Even life is a temporary situation...it will pass!
Azrael
 player, 479 posts
 Charismatic
 Exorcist
Tue 28 May 2019
at 21:00
Re: Out of Character 8
Yes, whether you like it or not.
Narrator
 GM, 6422 posts
 DM says
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Thu 30 May 2019
at 23:27
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Azrael (msg # 144):

To the folks in the caravan, your original plan was to find a magically hidden fortress that only a few people seem to recall seeing from a distance, and no one has ever been to, there was a sage consultation about that.
Adept Yisslitheniss
 player, 143 posts
 Reptileman cleric
Fri 31 May 2019
at 00:02
Re: Out of Character 8
And this was the Path to it... I got that...
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 235 posts
Fri 31 May 2019
at 04:56
Re: Out of Character 8
I don't recall reading that, but I'm newish too.  Thanks for the mention.
Narrator
 GM, 6425 posts
 DM says
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Fri 31 May 2019
at 16:47
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 147):

Here are Haveron's earlier threads:
Over in the Wastrel's hope
link to a message in this game

And
 the Dismal Tower
link to a message in this game
Gareth
 player, 428 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Sun 2 Jun 2019
at 11:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 148):

A timely reminder...
Narrator
 GM, 6433 posts
 DM says
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Sun 2 Jun 2019
at 19:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 149):

Rereading older threads to give a better map for juniors. There had been a map, but it has been misplaced since October 2015...
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 886 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Sun 2 Jun 2019
at 22:57
Re: Out of Character 8
Or last Thursday.  I can never remember which...  ;)
Mancini
 player, 230 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Mon 3 Jun 2019
at 00:41
Re: Out of Character 8
Don't look at me. I've got Eidetic Memory.
Narrator
 GM, 6434 posts
 DM says
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Mon 3 Jun 2019
at 18:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 151):

Redrawing, might also know where the original was...
Narrator
 GM, 6440 posts
 DM says
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Tue 4 Jun 2019
at 21:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 153):

away for the day, working on commisssions
Chye Isuel
 player, 1497 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 5 Jun 2019
at 20:01
Re: Out of Character 8
looking to retire sederic,aegis, and tanaka, anyone want them?
took over a friend's account til he returned, and he's not coming back.
James
 player, 52 posts
 Knight
 of noble lineage
Wed 5 Jun 2019
at 20:05
Re: Out of Character 8
I'll post tomorrow, dealing with lack of sleep right now
Balir Ironhide
 player, 128 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Wed 5 Jun 2019
at 20:07
Re: Out of Character 8
I would consider one, if not already in an existing thread.  Perhaps 2 if they are fairly simple to play.
Narrator
 GM, 6441 posts
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Wed 5 Jun 2019
at 20:20
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 157):

Tanaka is a samurai poet currently in Rice Run.
Aegis is a potent weapon master in Balar's Hoard
Sederic is a fighter/mage with a cursed sword in Ashbury's Abattoir

Sorry  I couldn't  get on today, work was rough.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1637 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Wed 5 Jun 2019
at 20:27
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 158):

I can take Sederic. Since I have taken 2 in Balars whorde, it starts to get unbalanced for me to take a third, and I am far from a poet, though that does sound interesting.

On a similar note, I will likely be away from 7th July to 1st August.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 129 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Wed 5 Jun 2019
at 20:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Whichever you want of the leftovers is fine.  Or both.  Leave it up to the GM, and if others want in feel free.

I still owe you a couple historical threads anyway, need to get caught up on at least one character.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1497 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 5 Jun 2019
at 21:03
Re: Out of Character 8
cool, cos i just made a junior pc, and that makes it my 4th. i'm getting disinterested in my foster kids. they need a new home. xD

This message was last updated by the player at 21:03, Wed 05 June 2019.

Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1694 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Thu 6 Jun 2019
at 02:22
Re: Out of Character 8
Chye Isuel:
cool, cos i just made a junior pc, and that makes it my 4th. i'm getting disinterested in my foster kids. they need a new home. xD

That's why I've only taken on one foster, and as soon as he gets back to town I'll be changing him up slightly.
Narrator
 GM, 6443 posts
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Thu 6 Jun 2019
at 18:56
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 162):

Balir, which of the other two fighters would you prefer, Tanaka of Aegis?
The other one wil be played by Broderick's player

I am distributing in order of request recieved.
Narrator
 GM, 6444 posts
 DM says
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Thu 6 Jun 2019
at 18:58
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 163):

I may just have gotten into some unpleasantness at work, I may not be posting today, and definitely not much of the weekend. Sorry to be so distant.
Adept Yisslitheniss
 player, 144 posts
 Reptileman cleric
Thu 6 Jun 2019
at 19:01
Re: Out of Character 8
Hope it all works to your favor.  relax and deal with RL, we'll be standing by as always.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 130 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Thu 6 Jun 2019
at 19:51
Re: Out of Character 8
I don't have a ton of Eastern philosophy, and am more Engineer than Poet, so probably not Tanaka.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 1 post
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Fri 7 Jun 2019
at 03:01
Re: Out of Character 8
Hello, everyone.
Brodak
 player, 341 posts
 orc warrior
 brutish but honorable
Fri 7 Jun 2019
at 03:52
Re: Out of Character 8
Greetings
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1638 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Fri 7 Jun 2019
at 04:06
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Brodak (msg # 168):

Hey there.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 2 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 9 Jun 2019
at 21:50
Re: Out of Character 8
do juniors get a larger xp payout?
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 408 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Sun 9 Jun 2019
at 22:13
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 170):

Nope, Smaller... 125 CP to start ... and I don't think EXP awards are any larger. GM just keeps the tasks within the Juniors ability.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 3 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 9 Jun 2019
at 22:23
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 171):
merci beaucoup
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 409 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Sun 9 Jun 2019
at 22:28
Re: Out of Character 8
Bitte Schön
Narrator
 GM, 6447 posts
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Mon 10 Jun 2019
at 00:19
Re: Out of Character 8
I am going to be running a tt  con game in August set in Northport,  and using 187pt characters. I plan on offering (upgraded) versions of Ludlow, Razakeel, Szuzana, Molag, Grimbo, Harlan, and possibly Masugatan. Any other suggestions?
Narrator
 GM, 6451 posts
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Mon 10 Jun 2019
at 19:49
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 174):

Sederic, Tanaka, and Aegis have all changed hands, and can proceed.
Sederic
 player, 286 posts
 half elven
 sword mage
Tue 11 Jun 2019
at 02:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 175):

Cool. Are we doing anything, or just chatting? read back a bit, but they seem to be just chatting about the hole in the street...
Grimaldi
 player, 425 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Tue 11 Jun 2019
at 03:32
Re: Out of Character 8
it's the GM's next move. on that thread.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 132 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Tue 11 Jun 2019
at 14:39
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm training a guy from out of the country this week, so I'm around but not as active as I usually am.
Narrator
 GM, 6453 posts
 DM says
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Tue 11 Jun 2019
at 16:01
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 177):

I had paused because of the eminent player switch.
Narrator
 GM, 6461 posts
 DM says
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Wed 12 Jun 2019
at 19:55
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 179):

Other characters up for grabs:

Goran the Marked, a battle priest of Hors, the Shevnian god of winter solstice and death
(currently in a matter concerning the Hadereum)

Sorsha, Sorceress and thief, comes with Mischa, who is a thief and artisan (ostensibly a cabinet maker who collects knives)
(both currently in Near Al Menir)

Shroud, a scout thief,
(currently in Near Al Menir, but soon to be dropped off in the city if no one picks him up)
Balir Ironhide
 player, 133 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Fri 14 Jun 2019
at 15:37
Re: Out of Character 8
I'll take Goran, might as well stay with the religious theme, and I don't have anyone in that thread.

Also, I happened to pull the Sunday weekend rotation this week.  Should have ample time to get up to speed on all the characters and get them up and running.  Might have a few side questions for you along the way boss.
Grimaldi
 player, 432 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Fri 14 Jun 2019
at 19:47
Re: Out of Character 8
it is an inevitable phenomena that guild members do murder one another. how does the guild handle infighting and foul play within the ranks?
Narrator
 GM, 6465 posts
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Fri 14 Jun 2019
at 20:40
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 182):

I try to avoid it as much as possible. It is a real pain in the ass, and I prefer for people to walk off. Please talk to me in OCC or pm before things get that far
Grimaldi
 player, 433 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Fri 14 Jun 2019
at 21:22
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 183):
oh i wasn't meaning among pcs, just as far as how guild justice works, since it's pretty much a bunch of murder hoboes and miscreants.
i meant as in story-wise.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:27, Fri 14 June 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6466 posts
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Fri 14 Jun 2019
at 21:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 184):

They guild prefers that they enter a formal duel on the arena grounds so that bets can be placed on the outcome in their favor, and that prearranged contracts for the disposal of ones goods in case of death be purchased (such as if you don't want your opponent to get them instead) and prepayment to the Necromancer to NOT raise you as a zombie, unless you prefer the reverse.
Grimaldi
 player, 434 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Fri 14 Jun 2019
at 21:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 185):

i see, now. thanks!
Narrator
 GM, 6471 posts
 DM says
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Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 13:29
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 186):

If I leave your character sheet open for edits, that is not so you can more than double your point total to fit your character concept. This kid of thing is not acceptable
Narrator
 GM, 6472 posts
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Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 13:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 187):

I am not posting ANYWHERE until I get resolution on this, and may end up removing a player permanently.
Narrator
 GM, 6473 posts
 DM says
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Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 16:00
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 188):

Hadahah is out. Done. He jumped up all of his characters by 40-270 points nope nope nope
Narrator
 GM, 6474 posts
 DM says
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Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 16:04
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 189):

Character deleted and banned. No more of his shit
Chye Isuel
 player, 1508 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 16:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 190):
uh oh spaghettios
Narrator
 GM, 6475 posts
 DM says
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Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 17:57
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 191):

I need to take a break from this. I put a lot of work in attempting to accommodate a player who violated the basic social contract of the game.
I gave him  a chance to rewrite the character at 250 points, and they neglected to include the previously decided cost of the golem that had been the character's main concept. Just wasting my time.


I have enough issues with the mutilation of character sheet structure that GCA does in breaking down racial packages and alphabetizing them. I accept occasional rearrangement of points, swapping unused disads for new ones that better fit character concept, or consolidation of partially bought advantages for equivalent ones with the same effect. These modifications are always discussed in occ forums and pms, and approved or modified before implementation.
Oly
 player, 1101 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 20:55
Re: Out of Character 8
I have to agree that that is not permissible ... I have had a few players try to under value advantages ... done it myself with weights, costs and prerequisites, but always above board and with some rational. They are not always accepted.  Anyone can succeed by cheating, but if we all did it, the games wouldn't be fun, since you could just adjust things to be all powerful.  250 point characters are pretty darn powerful anyway.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1509 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 21:43
Re: Out of Character 8
cheating when you're already playin' by yaself is pretty damn funny though... *covers mouth*
Oly
 player, 1102 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 23:52
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 194):

True too...
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1229 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 11:14
Re: Out of Character 8
I've never used GCA -- but I've used GCS since well before it was swapped to Java to simplify cross-platform use (same program works on Windows, Mac, and Linux).  It lacks the direct support of SJ Games, and the developer is a bit swamped at times so fixes and such can take a while -- but it's been very stable for a long time, users can add stuff (like new spells, advantages, and skills), and the source code is open so programmers can even fix the code if they speak Java.  There are support mailing lists so users can easily contact the developer as well as help each other.

Handles templates pretty well, IMO.  Ardenas was done on GCS, and was my first DF character build.

What it doesn't have is long descriptions of anything -- the developer considers that copyrighted material that exceeds the public play aid license SJ has given.  That's fine, if you use abilities from books you have access to, you won't have problems with it -- and users can add notes to things for quick in-play reference.

Now, that said, anyone can cheat at an RPG if they put their mind to it; I've seen it done in OD&D back when a character sheet was a random piece of ruled notebook paper or graph paper.  My take on it was, it was like cheating at solitaire, only worse because you can ruin someone else's fun.

And ruining the fun for others is the only genuine sin in RPG play.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 134 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 15:13
Re: Out of Character 8
Sorry about all the chaos.  It's already so much work to run these games as it is.  I understand why it happens, as gamers we all probably feel the temptation.  It's all about being mature individually so you can be a good citizen in the game.

On another subject, Happy Father's Day to all for whom that applies.
Narrator
 GM, 6476 posts
 DM says
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Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 18:16
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 197):

Happy fathers day to all!


At least the work done in designing the adventure will get reused in my con game.

Did a wrap up that should work for my needs.

This message was last edited by the GM at 18:49, Sun 16 June 2019.

Chye Isuel
 player, 1511 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 20:47
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 198):
a gruesome ending for broderick & co., and only one survivor!
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1230 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 23:35
Re: Out of Character 8
"That's the usual number."  Said Golias to Silverlock...
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1643 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 05:26
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 200):

Nasty indeed. It seemed like a sudden end...
Grimaldi
 player, 437 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 05:51
Re: Out of Character 8
All that gold just waiting there!
Narrator
 GM, 6478 posts
 DM says
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Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:12
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 202):

I am leaving it exactly like that for the tabletop group in August. They will be 2-3 weeks into the future...
Grimaldi
 player, 438 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:18
Re: Out of Character 8
haha if we run into their zombies, that'd be icing on the cake.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 7 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:29
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm to meet up with the dismal tower group, when you leave there.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 135 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:47
Re: Out of Character 8
I didn't get all the back histories done yesterday - came down a bit ill so i was just happy to finish the work day.
Darius Kopaki
 player, 151 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 08:07
Re: Out of Character 8
As seen by my posting, I am back - and apparently I did miss quite some unpleasantness. I'm quite sorry, Gwythaint, that you had to deal with that - given that you spend so much time on creating such an extensive and excellent game, I really wish you the most excellent and cooperative players.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1512 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 09:40
Re: Out of Character 8
same, sorry that guy was such a waste of time!
Narrator
 GM, 6484 posts
 DM says
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Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 20:55
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 208):

I should be back posting tomorrow.

In the meantime,

https://gwythaintny.wordpress....ng-from-bad-players/
Darius Kopaki
 player, 152 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Thu 20 Jun 2019
at 14:27
Re: Out of Character 8
Wow. I mean, just wow.

Particularly after all the work you poured into accommodating them. Again, I'm quite sorry for that.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1513 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 20 Jun 2019
at 17:39
Re: Out of Character 8
well, if he tries to come back under another name, his style and methods will give him away. he can't help himself, apparently.
Narrator
 GM, 6487 posts
 DM says
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Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 20:23
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 211):

Work has been a bit rough lately, mightnot get to posting until Sunday.

Happy Solstice all!
Balir Ironhide
 player, 138 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 18:01
Re: Out of Character 8
I still owe you a historical read-up on a couple characters.  It's on the to-do list.  Was training a co-worker for the last 2 weeks, and I didn't anticipate it being that involved.  Should be done in the next day or three.
Narrator
 GM, 6492 posts
 DM says
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Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 23:41
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 213):

One of the OR techs at my job had a heart attack a few weeks ago (he's doing fine, but will be out of work for months), and they have been pulling me out of my usual workspace where things are slow enough that I can post regularly, and having me run set up and imaging in surgery, and chase after portable post operative cases.
 Now I frequently crank out a lot of portable exams when I am assigned  to that detail, but I generally build my own workflow; when I am in the OR, everything is pager driven, and absolutely infuriating.

(This is a little more than my typical "work has been busy" comment, but y'all have been watching my posting become erratic, so here is why. That and my wife has been working from home, so the time difference between our shifts has been gone from my posting schedule.)

Anyway, I'll  be back tomorrow...
Brodak
 player, 342 posts
 orc warrior
 brutish but honorable
Tue 25 Jun 2019
at 02:21
Re: Out of Character 8
Sounds like the sort of work that causes people to go Postal!
Chye Isuel
 player, 1516 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 25 Jun 2019
at 02:46
Re: Out of Character 8
when it's good, it's gravy, and when it's bad, it's poo poo!
Balir Ironhide
 player, 139 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Tue 25 Jun 2019
at 15:37
Re: Out of Character 8
That kind of work can work you about to death when the **** hits the fan.  But, you leave at the end of the day knowing you saved lives.  On a good day you see the relief on the faces of the family members, and might even get a thank you from someone who knows what you've done.  It really matters when you make a difference like that.
Narrator
 GM, 6504 posts
 DM says
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Wed 26 Jun 2019
at 14:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 217):

innapropriate use of Languages:

I have decided to use the high valerian translator and the R'lyeh translator for Eldrich, and the Black Speech of Mordor for goblin, for those trying to run my gobbledygook  through babelfish or google translate. only problem comes up with  ASCII characters that rpol's htm will not support.  For elvish I will use a Sindarin translator.
That one takes some doing, but you can use it to render the Swabian Salute of Gottfried "Götz" von Berlichingen. I find that I am happy with any language that let's me say that.

Elvish: Lefi- mui adel
R'lyehian: lllln'gha ya mgep
Goblin does it best: kiukuk mausan aukuk
Shevnisn (Slovak) does well: pobozkaj mi zadok
Likewise Orcish (slovakian): Poljubi me v rit
And of course, Aralaise: va te faire foutre
and Valdassyan (arabic) has a single word: amlalquni

High valerian can't do it.

Strangely, some words don't reverse translate; the name of the demon from the thread here https://rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=56335&ti=131&date=1527802723 had originally been translated a bit differently, as this rude phrase

Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)
pig fucker
and now means something different.

This message was lightly edited by the GM at 23:43, Wed 26 June 2019.

Brodak
 player, 343 posts
 orc warrior
 brutish but honorable
Wed 26 Jun 2019
at 18:08
Re: Out of Character 8
You could use the English "Bugger"  and call him Pig Bugger...
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 892 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Wed 26 Jun 2019
at 21:46
Re: Out of Character 8
Well, as I understand it (and I could be wrong, haven't looked there in a long time), the online Valyrian translator is based almost entirely on words and phrases that have appeared in the GOT series or in Martin's novels.  Given Martin isn't a philologist like Tolkien was, he didn't go out of his way to create complete languages; he just threw in semi-random words with the sound he wanted.

Let me make a note to myself: R'lyeh and/or Valyrian for Eldritch.  That's the same as what I've been calling Elder Speech, right?
Narrator
 GM, 6506 posts
 DM says
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Wed 26 Jun 2019
at 23:43
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 220):

That would be the thing exactly.
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 898 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 08:57
Re: Out of Character 8
BTW, "Near the Bone Gate" is showing 998 posts in thread.  Not sure why the game menu shows only 990.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1708 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 11:23
Re: Out of Character 8
Mario Crowfoot:
BTW, "Near the Bone Gate" is showing 998 posts in thread.  Not sure why the game menu shows only 990.

And as I mentioned in that thread, NO ONE SHOULD POST IN IT ANYMORE*.  If it hits 1k posts it stops being searchable.



* Not aimed at you Mario.  ;)
Narrator
 GM, 6511 posts
 DM says
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Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 13:49
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 223):

Right-O! Report to living by the street collapse.
Narrator
 GM, 6512 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 13:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 224):

Also, we are onboarding more juniors, one is a swashbuckler type, and they may forma team with Leroy, and any defectors from the main group, or Masugatan when he gets back with the loot from Balar.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 18 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 14:11
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 225):
it's a hoot 'n a hollar, when yer livin' in squalor!
Aegis
 player, 222 posts
 Veteran Mercenary
 Master-at-Arms
Thu 27 Jun 2019
at 19:21
Re: Out of Character 8
I haven't gotten to Aegis, but he'll be along with the end of the Hoard thread as well, I would think.  Not sure how many players we have among the characters, but he'll be available if needed.  Depends on time commitments and all, and what the interest is.  I don't have to break him out if we have all the slots filled.
Narrator
 GM, 6519 posts
 DM says
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Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 00:26
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aegis (msg # 227):

As I was onboarding two at 125, I have to see what the second one is. A spellcaster or a thief would be good.


Jareth, Mario, found that reference. Pay comes after.

This message was last edited by the GM at 00:35, Fri 28 June 2019.

Anita Drake
 player, 19 posts
 Adventuress
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 02:38
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 228):

Who needs the thief?
Narrator
 GM, 6520 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 16:21
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 229):

I am forming an alternate group of juniors (without Ymid) for some onboarding players.
Leroy can be poart of that group. There is a swashbuckler named Wiley Filcher, and two others not settled yet (one may be an apprentice wizard). Anita could join them, as everyone is kinda stealthy so far. if the last guy picks an archer then we have a good group

This message was last edited by the GM at 20:43, Fri 28 June 2019.

Mario Crowfoot
 player, 902 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 22:35
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Jareth, Mario, found that reference. Pay comes after.



Okay, so we're fronting the money for all those exotic materials, including more than a dozen royals for the flying potion?  Unless others are doing a lot better than I am, or we quickly find a safe(ish) way to dispose of Alaric's sword and its gem, we haven't got that kind of money in loose coin...
Narrator
 GM, 6525 posts
 DM says
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Sat 29 Jun 2019
at 12:55
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 231):

Read the Dismal Tower thread, you have a potential barter situation.

Back on tomorrow

This message was last edited by the GM at 13:07, Sat 29 June 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6526 posts
 DM says
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Sat 29 Jun 2019
at 19:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 232):

One of the new characters looks to be a pixie spellcaster.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 22 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sat 29 Jun 2019
at 19:35
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 233):
the last one got eaten by the void monster!
Narrator
 GM, 6527 posts
 DM says
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Sat 29 Jun 2019
at 21:15
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 234):

And one is buzzing about looking fr her sister, who a troll stuck in a jar
Leroy du Lac
 player, 23 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sat 29 Jun 2019
at 21:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 235):
didn't you draw a picture of that? i think i recall that particular drawing...
Aoife
 player, 583 posts
 Leprechaun
 Priestess of Cerrunos
Sat 29 Jun 2019
at 23:09
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 236):

Poor little pixe sisters. These big humans are best treated from afar....as far as possible!
Lulu
 NPC, 6 posts
 pixie
 healer
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 00:08
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aoife (msg # 237):

https://drive.google.com/file/...nM/view?usp=drivesdk
Narrator
 GM, 6528 posts
 DM says
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Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 01:59
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Lulu (msg # 238):

Lik is now working
Leroy du Lac
 player, 28 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 02:10
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 239):
yeah, that's the one I was referring to. neat!
Narrator
 GM, 6529 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 11:25
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 240):

Group should be up this week;Leroy, Anita, Wiley, Rosewood the pixie, and a brute mercenary who may know Leroy. I would have preferred an archer, but you get what you get.
Anita Drake
 player, 20 posts
 Adventuress
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 11:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 241):

Relying on my crossbow skills? Hope the enemy does not have rapid fire then!
Leroy du Lac
 player, 29 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 12:16
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 242):
i'm also an armbruster!...soon as i can afford one! armor is expensive, but well worth it.
Anita Drake
 player, 21 posts
 Adventuress
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 12:27
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 243):

Armbruster? I had to look that one up...not sure I see the connection, but thanks for the warning!

Armbruster - Urban Dictionary
https://www.urbandictionary.co....php?term=Armbruster

A faggot who thinks that everyone but himself is a tool.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 30 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 12:39
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 244)
it was the proper occupational term for a crossbowman, particularly mercenaries.
we have some gay players and people who are are activists for gay rights, so that's probably offensive... just a heads up.
Anita Drake
 player, 22 posts
 Adventuress
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 12:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 245):

I actually did not make that up. If you do a google search on the name, you will, I expect, find the same, though I did find it amusing. I believe the term you were looking for was arbalist, also spelled arbelist.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 31 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 12:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 246):
yeah, i saw it. but the term i gave is correct, so much so, it's actually a surname, in the manner that smith, fletcher, miller, was. surnames by occupation. https://www.houseofnames.com/armbruster-family-crest

This message was last edited by the player at 12:46, Sun 30 June 2019.

Anita Drake
 player, 23 posts
 Adventuress
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 12:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 247):

Really? I could not find it in any of the online dictionaries. Though I did find it as a surname. Is it a french spelling perhaps?
Leroy du Lac
 player, 32 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 12:52
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 248):
swiss-german, in fact.
Anita Drake
 player, 24 posts
 Adventuress
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 12:57
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 249):

Ah, that would explain not finding it in an English dictionary...
Ales Konstantin
 player, 761 posts
 Spellsword
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 12:57
Re: Out of Character 8
I assume given that there are gay players/ gay rights activists on here, that the term is being used strictly as a synonym for crossbowperson.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 33 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 13:05
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ales Konstantin (msg # 251):
absolutely. i didn't even know it was any other thing than it's proper usage, honestly... leave it to urban dictionary to corrupt words, though. lol... i even saw the term in DF henchmen itself!

This message was last edited by the player at 13:06, Sun 30 June 2019.

Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1711 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 13:36
Re: Out of Character 8
Anita Drake:
Really? I could not find it in any of the online dictionaries. Though I did find it as a surname. Is it a french spelling perhaps?

First link that came up for me on google:
https://www.ancestry.com/name-...n?surname=armbruster

... but then I've trained my google well.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 35 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 15:10
Re: Out of Character 8
well, when i do get a crossbow, i plan to get a grappling hook that i can fire with the crossbow, to aid me in climbing. i'm also stealthy too, but my mail gives me a small penalty. not too bad, though...

This message was last edited by the player at 15:12, Sun 30 June 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6530 posts
 DM says
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Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 16:22
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 254):

I will have to look at what kind of special order that would be. It would have to be a collapsible grapnel in order to be fired any distance, and even then would be a minimum of -2 to aim, as much as -4... They probably have stats for it somewhere...



And yes, I am one of those sctivists. Far too many family members not to be.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 36 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 16:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 255):

Crossbow Grapnel....................................................................................................$300...........................................9 lbs
*thats from the 4th edition reference handbook, with all the great stuff.*
it's probably meant to be fired from a heavier crossbow, for sure. like fowling and military, or composite, and steel crossbows.
Oh, and we're getting a brute merc, that wants to know me, for his intro?

This message was last edited by the player at 16:36, Sun 30 June 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6531 posts
 DM says
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Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 18:55
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 256):

He is a merc, will be traveling with you so to tie things up, you worked the same gig?
Narrator
 GM, 6532 posts
 DM says
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Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 20:11
Re: Out of Character 8
Damn it!I was onboarding someone, and they updated their character sheet while I was typing. Forty minutes wasted, allthe work lost. There is a format I need to see to make sense of a sheet. If you do GCA, I need to see it my way.

This message was last edited by the GM at 20:17, Sun 30 June 2019.

Rosewood
 player, 1 post
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 20:24
Re: Out of Character 8
Very bad Pixie. :(

Goes and sit in corner and leave character sheet alone.
Narrator
 GM, 6533 posts
 DM says
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Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 20:48
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 259):

I did not communicate that I was working on it still, I had saved while I was reading up on flight speed and basic lift for 5 ST.

I just had a very traumatic experience dealing with a former player who kept rearranging his sheets, and GCA breaks up the templates into an unmanageable (for me) form.
Rosewood
 player, 2 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 20:58
Re: Out of Character 8
Ok

I understand.  I post and talk to you before I do anything with my character sheet.
Now and in future.  That way I not make same mistake again.

I just looked though the picture.  No pixie picks at all.
I have to make do with close up of face I think.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 37 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Sun 30 Jun 2019
at 22:35
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 257):
yeah, i suppose i could know him from the guild.
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 894 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Mon 1 Jul 2019
at 09:04
Re: Out of Character 8
Rosewood, you can also format and upload a picture of your own.  Takes a week or two to get approved, but then you can switch to it.  That's what I had to do; couldn't find anything vaguely close.
Narrator
 GM, 6534 posts
 DM says
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Mon 1 Jul 2019
at 20:13
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 263):

There are about four female pixies. Bummer. Two angels in male, and one that had a detailed archway behind that could be mistake for insect wings...
Rosewood is nearly done, the archer will be dine tomorrow and I will get back to posting
Wiley Filcher
 player, 1 post
 swashbuckler
Mon 1 Jul 2019
at 20:39
Re: Out of Character 8
BTW how much for a flyswatter? :P
Ales Konstantin
 player, 762 posts
 Spellsword
Mon 1 Jul 2019
at 20:42
Re: Out of Character 8
For a nominal fee, Ales will be glad to cast Rain of Fire and get rid of your insect/pixie problems. 😆
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 908 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Mon 1 Jul 2019
at 21:33
Re: Out of Character 8
You folks may be mistaking pixies for fairies.  It's the latter that bite, at least according to Hoggle.
Wiley Filcher
 player, 2 posts
 swashbuckler
Tue 2 Jul 2019
at 05:43
Re: Out of Character 8
Well, I hear pixies are pretty good, as satay.

I'm just a simple swordsman though, a kid off the farm, just like Luke Skywalker except without the force powers, the hot sister he wants to boink, the cool sword, the dad who doesn't like sand, and the taste for blue milk.
Gareth
 player, 434 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Tue 2 Jul 2019
at 06:29
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Wiley Filcher (msg # 268):

"Is someone burning something without inviting me??"
Narrator
 GM, 6535 posts
 DM says
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Tue 2 Jul 2019
at 16:39
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Wiley Filcher (msg # 265):

In a bit of GURPS inspired fiction I was writing, The little winged fey without antennas were Ellyll, as per Fantasy Folk, and Pixies had the antennae and were kind of bluish, and would cast Curse by the swarm.
Now: swatting: They are sm-6, and have enhanced dodge and flight...Rosewood can launch attacks from -11 distance without rolling to hit...
Narrator
 GM, 6536 posts
 DM says
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Tue 2 Jul 2019
at 18:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 270):

I believe we have long since lost Gorgath, so we are going to lose him here, and in another day, at El Menir, all of the other disappearing characters, Sorsha, Mischa, Shroud.  That will leave the party as Gareth, Haveron, Amelia, Adept Yissthenis, Berry and Var.
Oly
 player, 1111 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 2 Jul 2019
at 20:06
Re: Out of Character 8
Unfortunate but necessary... some were interesting, others not so much.
Anita Drake
 player, 25 posts
 Adventuress
Wed 3 Jul 2019
at 09:57
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Oly (msg # 272):

So I should join the group New in Town, after seeing Benito start work?
Narrator
 GM, 6543 posts
 DM says
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Wed 3 Jul 2019
at 18:35
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 273):

Yes. That is where the action will be
Narrator
 GM, 6544 posts
 DM says
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Wed 3 Jul 2019
at 20:45
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 274):

Hope to be back tomorrow
Chye Isuel
 player, 1520 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Fri 5 Jul 2019
at 21:25
Re: Out of Character 8
Do you know Mordenkeinen's lubrication and Bigby's Helpful Hand?""
it's even funnier if you get the references
Narrator
 GM, 6554 posts
 DM says
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Sat 6 Jul 2019
at 02:57
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 276):

Be back after the weekend
Jednesa
 player, 378 posts
 Naked Barbarian Ogress
 HP:29/36 FP:12/13
Mon 8 Jul 2019
at 15:36
Re: Out of Character 8
Why yes, I do believe the Evil Cleric is dead.


Granted... he was unconscious, but that no excuse for letting a berserk Ogress rip your head off.
Rosewood
 player, 12 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 18:08
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
(msg # 263):

There are about four female pixies. Bummer. Two angels in male, and one that had a detailed archway behind that could be mistake for insect wings...
Rosewood is nearly done, the archer will be dine tomorrow and I will get back to posting


My quest for a nice male pixie photo has been educational to say the least.
One I not sure I really wanted to experience.
Of the few male fairy photo on the net about 95%+ look like they are male strippers that have just come of the stage.  Some for hen parties other the following on act from the village people.

Well if I ever wanted to prove to myself I am straight I just have.
All I wanted was pixie with nice flowing wizard coat.
It has been an interesting experience.

I may have to commission my own pic.

(Sub note I have friends of all sexual out looks and have no issues).

This message was last edited by the player at 20:44, Tue 09 July 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6566 posts
 DM says
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Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 20:41
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 279):

I may be able to help you with that...
Balir Ironhide
 player, 149 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 21:34
Re: Out of Character 8
lol.  The internet can be an interesting and creepy place.  :)

[Private to GM: If you get a RTJ from Dr. Destructo, he's a long time GURPs guy who I have played with for 25 years now.  I actually taught him GURPs way back then, and converted him from the bad system.  He runs his own GURPs game here, and has done several over the years.  He'd be a good addition, although we'd probably want to find a thread where we could play together.

I tend to be more of the good guy, sometimes with lawful thrown in.  He plays a good gray character.  For example, he would play Aegis well, I think, given the way the character is written up.  At one point I mentioned a game run by Ceredyn where he had PCs running the bad guys in this large plot arc.  Dr. Destructo was the lead bad guy, and did a good job with it.  That said, I don't want to pigeon hole him.  He can play anything.  Most of all, he wouldn't be a behavior problem.  :)

For a while he ran a game where the main characters were all experimental blends of humans and animals.  If he does come by, he may want to play one of the animal demi-humans.  Not for me to decide, though.  I just happened to talk to him a bit today, and he expressed interest in the game.  Not sure if he'll commit though.
]
Grimaldi
 player, 451 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 21:55
Re: Out of Character 8
flame lord just may require essential water... that'd sure lick 'im
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1721 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 22:24
Re: Out of Character 8
Grimaldi:
flame lord just may require essential water... that'd sure lick 'im

Licking Flame Lords is contraindicated, no matter how hot they may be.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1524 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 22:40
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 283):
roll a crit, and kool-aid man bursts through the masonry. "Oh yeah!" and quenches the flame lord, with his soft drink, that both kids and moms love, with 25% less sugar than leading soft drinks!

This message was lightly edited by the player at 22:41, Tue 09 July 2019.

Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1244 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 23:08
Re: Out of Character 8
A quick search for "male pixie wizard" turned up these:

https://www.figuren-shop.de/en...e-fly-away-5717.html

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/...65418176471/?lp=true
(this one has a bunch)

https://www.fairyglen.com/aa87870.html#.XSUbXzC_iXM

Removing "wizard" broadened the search a bit.

http://maysi-art.blogspot.com/...e-fairy-pixie_9.html

https://www.123rf.com/photo_11...tion-of-a-pixie.html


Of course, I don't know if these are at all close to what you're looking for, but maybe something here will help...
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 900 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 23:15
Re: Out of Character 8
Sorry, Chye, you were correct.  Pages B347-348: 3-4 is always a crit, 5 is a crit on 15+ effective skill, and 6 is a crit on 16+ effective skill.

Likewise, 18 is always a crit fail, 17 is a crit fail unless effective skill is 16+ (and always a fail, even for  higher skill), and any roll that fails by 10 is always a crit.

I might have been recalling the 3rd Edition version, or something from Hero System (which I've played a fair amount of the past few years, as the usual GM for the group I was in is a long time Champions player).
Chye Isuel
 player, 1526 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 9 Jul 2019
at 23:33
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 286):
it's cool. we always referred to a 3-4 crit, as a "natural" on the scale.

This message was last edited by the player at 23:33, Tue 09 July 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6567 posts
 DM says
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Wed 10 Jul 2019
at 21:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 287):

Whew. Just spent about seven hours drawing. Will catch up tomorrow.
Narrator
 GM, 6568 posts
 DM says
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Thu 11 Jul 2019
at 20:08
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 288):

Total crap day at work; our Apps were down and most of the equipment. The amount of times I had to reboot stuff from the breaker... No rest for the wicked. I will be on early tomorrow morning.
Narrator
 GM, 6569 posts
 DM says
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Fri 12 Jul 2019
at 20:43
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 289):

Just spent several hours cleaning one of my recent commissions. I may not be on until Sunday. Been writing up plot/encounters for the new players
Narrator
 GM, 6570 posts
 DM says
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Mon 15 Jul 2019
at 20:01
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 290):

Al Menir is going to fast forward to the city; we are losing Gorgath, Shroud, Sorsha ans Mischa. A Druid will be joining you, but as your group consists of Gareth, Berry & company, Haveron and Amelia, it might be a good time for new characters to join, or to take over characters. Gorgath and Sorsha are really specific to their creators, so I would like to retire them..Shroud is a scout-thief, and because barely used, can be customized.
Narrator
 GM, 6577 posts
 DM says
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Wed 17 Jul 2019
at 21:31
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 291):

The druid will be also playing Shroud, so the party has a non-fire caster also different from Berry, and oce again a thief type.


Back on tomorrow, work was ugly. Aeems every other day they overbook fluoroscopy.

This message was last edited by the GM at 21:32, Wed 17 July 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6583 posts
 DM says
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Fri 19 Jul 2019
at 20:17
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 292):

Will be back Monday, spending time with my wife
Narrator
 GM, 6586 posts
 DM says
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Mon 22 Jul 2019
at 20:03
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 293):

Total SNAFU at work, could not post at all.will try again tomorrow. It has been harried, between people on sick leave, vacation, and four people leaving the job for work closer to home/ changing modalities.
Bechazruhk Burke
 player, 1 post
 Dirty Hippy
 "Name's Burke"
Tue 23 Jul 2019
at 18:23
Re: Out of Character 8
Hello everyone.  I'm no stranger to gaming or GURPS, and the style I'm used to is a bit deeper into story telling so please forgive me if my posts are a bit meatier than the standard fare.  A friend got me in here who says this game is awesome, I'm excited to be a part of it.
Shroud
 player, 35 posts
Tue 23 Jul 2019
at 18:24
Re: Out of Character 8
Burke is my main but I have also taken over playing Shroud.
Oly
 player, 1116 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 23 Jul 2019
at 19:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Welcome ... several of us play multiple characters, usually in different threads.
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 910 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Tue 23 Jul 2019
at 22:51
Re: Out of Character 8
Welcome, Burke.  Lots of us here are more interested in the role play than the roll play, as it were.  I'm the same player as Ardenas Barehand and Chou-Zhen Mou.  Ardenas is a martial artist with a small talent for Movement college, and Chou-Zhen is a wouxia elementalist mage, fathered on a Sahudese woman by an Elder Thing.

I'm an Archer.  If I live long enough, I'll be the best one alive.
Ryojin
 player, 1 post
 Martial artist
Tue 23 Jul 2019
at 23:25
Re: Out of Character 8
Hello all, Returning player playing a new character, I am the one that created Shroud, have fun with him!
Narrator
 GM, 6595 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 24 Jul 2019
at 15:29
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ryojin (msg # 299):

And also Zeelzeel Shadowspear!
Bechazruhk Burke
 player, 2 posts
 Dirty Hippy
 "Name's Burke"
Wed 24 Jul 2019
at 15:45
Re: Out of Character 8
Thanks for the warm welcomes.  Cant wait to get started.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1250 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Wed 24 Jul 2019
at 22:32
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm a big Shadowspear fan.  His blessing has saved my bacon at least a couple times in the last couple in-game days.  Possibly more than that, if the GM has remembered at times I haven't.
Ryojin
 player, 2 posts
 Martial artist
Wed 24 Jul 2019
at 23:17
Re: Out of Character 8
I was also going to make a pixie wizard/necromancer but I see someone is playing a pixie wizard already. Maybe I should roll up my Pixie knight again, or was he a barbarian? :D
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1724 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 02:34
Re: Out of Character 8
Ryojin:
I was also going to make a pixie wizard/necromancer but I see someone is playing a pixie wizard already. Maybe I should roll up my Pixie knight again, or was he a barbarian? :D

Nah, we need the ultimate in useless... Pixie Thief!
Ryojin
 player, 3 posts
 Martial artist
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 03:10
Re: Out of Character 8
Sorry, but pixie thief is useful, if you want the ULTIMATE then you go Pixie scout.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1532 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 03:28
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ryojin (msg # 305):
a pixie thief would have trouble toting away their spoils.. lol he'd have to have some help, and a trap could more easily kill them, depending on it's nature. i think a scout is probably the best bet, for a pixie. that or a druid or wizard.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1725 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 03:54
Re: Out of Character 8
Ryojin:
Sorry, but pixie thief is useful, if you want the ULTIMATE then you go Pixie scout.

Are they even stronk enough to turn the tumblers?!?!
Chye Isuel
 player, 1533 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 04:23
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 307):
good question... maybe with poltergeist
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1252 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 08:53
Re: Out of Character 8
This is more or less what Locksmith is made for.  Fine manipulation, as for internal lock parts (but not limited to them), but without the automatic process that's Lockmaster.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1534 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 12:38
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 309):

so they'd have to be a mage as well, just to be a thief of any sort, pretty much.
Narrator
 GM, 6598 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 19:29
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 310):

Just load a pixie scout up with resistance to poison and about a gallon of bladeblack, have em shoot from range -4 and it is -10 to hit them even without building them as an archer and throwing in a scout-wizard lens to make them invisible. Just saying.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 156 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 20:20
Re: Out of Character 8
I thought your job was to maintain game balance...?  Asking for a friend.
Bechazruhk Burke
 player, 3 posts
 Dirty Hippy
 "Name's Burke"
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 20:42
Re: Out of Character 8
Oh, that's some serious min-maxing.  How about Pixie + Invis + Deathtouch?
Narrator
 GM, 6599 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 25 Jul 2019
at 20:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Bechazruhk Burke (msg # 313):

Deathtouch mifht not kill you, and pixies in close combat are smears.
The above build is useless vs something with immunity or even the second tier of resistance to metabolic hazards, like, say orcs, and are flat out dead in no mana zones. A basic Archer can one shot them on a six or less, a scout on an 8 or better, and that is without aiming.


Be on early tomorrow, and probably Sunday, wife is working from home, so less screen time.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1726 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 26 Jul 2019
at 00:51
Re: Out of Character 8
Balir Ironhide:
I thought your job was to maintain game balance...?  Asking for a friend.

Nah, his job is to challenge your Character and your Party.  So build for what you want to fight the GM to throw at you to overcome your strengths and expose your weaknesses...
Narrator
 GM, 6601 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 26 Jul 2019
at 17:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 315):

sorry, won't get to posting today, heading out with the wife
Narrator
 GM, 6603 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 26 Jul 2019
at 18:03
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 316):

Those joining Near Al Menir should first read On The Road to Al Menir, partly asan example of how not to handle splitting the party.

Berry, if you are with us still, sing out.

Haveron should pick up a guard retainer, at 63 points.
 I can't remember the name of the thread where you met up, but it might be The Wastrel's Hope... Several groups started there.
Bechazruhk Burke
 player, 4 posts
 Dirty Hippy
 "Name's Burke"
Fri 26 Jul 2019
at 18:05
Re: Out of Character 8
Will do boss.
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 911 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Sat 27 Jul 2019
at 12:34
Re: Out of Character 8
Gareth, did you get a little misplaced?  You were in Al-Menir, and suddenly you're looking for shoes near the street collapse?
Gareth
 player, 440 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Sat 27 Jul 2019
at 12:52
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 319):

Oops, rectified...
Narrator
 GM, 6609 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 28 Jul 2019
at 21:07
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 320):

Will catch up tomorrow, been onboarding enemies...
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 1 post
 Innkeeper
Mon 29 Jul 2019
at 20:57
Re: Out of Character 8
My family and I will be opening a tavern soon, in the neighborhood.
(I have like, 5 people to write up. wife, two daughters, and a son.)

This message was last edited by the player at 01:51, Thu 01 Aug 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6615 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 30 Jul 2019
at 20:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Kazimir Yurick (msg # 322):

Be catching up tomorrow,  had a high art production day
Narrator
 GM, 6620 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 31 Jul 2019
at 20:13
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 323):

Should be catching up tomorrow,  work left me with no downtime.
Narrator
 GM, 6625 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 20:24
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 324):

Be put this weekend with the wife, may pist before Monday, but probably then.
Narrator
 GM, 6626 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 20:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 325):

Btw, does anyone know if Berry's player Lamech is still active? If not, she is going to stay in Al Menir...
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1659 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 20:52
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 326):

Can't help you...do not know sorry.
Oly
 player, 1121 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 21:30
Re: Out of Character 8
Not in any of my games
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1259 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Fri 2 Aug 2019
at 23:43
Re: Out of Character 8
Yeah, sure, one lucky roll and the guy who can only cast Movement spells is suddenly the authority on magic...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1733 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sat 3 Aug 2019
at 02:27
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
Yeah, sure, one lucky roll and the guy who can only cast Movement spells is suddenly the authority on magic...

Casting spells doesn't make one an authority on magic... says the guy who can't cast spells but is an authority on magic...  ;)
Grimaldi
 player, 464 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Sat 3 Aug 2019
at 02:33
Re: Out of Character 8
lol
Narrator
 GM, 6627 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 3 Aug 2019
at 15:21
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 331):

For those going to Al Menir: there is not ever going to be any splitting of the party ever again.
Y'all need to discuss selling Gareth's loot. You may need a guide, or Amelia can spend her points on language and cultural familiarity in order to find a sage ir sell thibgs. The group id down to the Adept, Gareth, Haveron&Amelia, Burke & Shroud, and Ryojin.

Even with a native speaking Amelia, there won't be anyone who can read the language except for Haveron's new hire, unless Burke is a native Valdassyan with some spoken Aralaise. This group is going to be a little more interdependent, and if you are hiring a guide, that is $30 a day. Cost of living in the city is scaled from $150 per week each, unless you have miserly.

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:45, Sat 03 Aug 2019.

Gareth
 player, 446 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Sat 3 Aug 2019
at 23:28
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 332):

Is cost of living effected by ability to create food? Also of the members who have dropped out can we use any of them if they have suitable skills as guides in the city? I actually thought was sort of our 'face'...
Narrator
 GM, 6629 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 4 Aug 2019
at 01:17
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 333):

You can half the col.
As someone with a bad reputation and a distinctive appearance, broken command of the spoken language, no cultural familiarity or area knowledge of a foreign city, you make a poor guide.
Gareth
 player, 447 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Sun 4 Aug 2019
at 01:59
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 334):

Lol I was not volunteering!

Bad Reputation? Where did he pick that up from? He dealt with the bandits! :)
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 247 posts
Sun 4 Aug 2019
at 23:56
Re: Out of Character 8
Hey boss.

I owe you the new hire, and a couple other misc things.  Would it be appropriate to hire someone who is a guide, or do you want me to stick to the previous suggestions?

Hoping to get on that tonight.  After a very busy weekend, I may have some free time when I'm not just decompressing.  We'll see what the better half is thinking.
Narrator
 GM, 6630 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 5 Aug 2019
at 02:09
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 336):

Just throw me a name, we can work details as it develops.  A local guide for the city is temporary.
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 248 posts
Mon 5 Aug 2019
at 17:31
Re: Out of Character 8
Let's go with Omar ibn Osmar el-Nasib.  Or just Omar.
Please correct me if that isn't the correct usage.
Narrator
 GM, 6631 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 5 Aug 2019
at 19:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 338):

That works. Had a Wi-Fi free day at work, hope to catch up soon
Ruffian
 NPC, 12 posts
 Common robber
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 01:28
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 339):

"Just so y'all know, Incels and Nazis are fair game for beating here. Not so much the orcish sport hooligans, or the hemp dealing hobgoblins. Feel free to thrash em"


Edit:this is in no way a call to violence against any actual human beings, and is a poorly articulated attempt to suggest player characters act against characters under my control painted in broad villainous brush strokes. The choice of words was badly thought out, please forgive me for being an imbecile.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:52, Tue 06 Aug 2019.

Gareth
 player, 450 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 07:45
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ruffian (msg # 340):

What is an Incell? Can it burn?
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 910 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 09:17
Re: Out of Character 8
Hmm.  Seems to me there might be more than one kind of incel.

After all, an inability to find a compatible partner may not stem only from being an asshole; it might be due to a severe lack of social skills in an otherwise harmless person -- or from falling so far outside the norms as to seem incompatible to everyone.  Further, not all incels turn into violent misogynists (or gay haters).  Some wallow in quiet depression.  Some sublimate their energies to other outlets.
Gareth
 player, 451 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 10:07
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 342):

Still does not explain what one is. I have never heard the term...
Narrator
 GM, 6636 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 11:48
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 343):

Involuntary Celibate.
Gareth
 player, 452 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 11:51
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 344):

Oh, thank you...
Narrator
 GM, 6637 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 11:56
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 345):

Most of the ones that embrace the title and are loud and angry about it are very problematic. I refer in this case to those responsible for violent anonymous threats of bodily harm in social media and YouTube comments, and in extreme cases, mass shooters.
There are plenty of people who have difficulty finding a romantic connection who aren't this way.

This message was last edited by the GM at 11:57, Tue 06 Aug 2019.

Gareth
 player, 453 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 12:37
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 346):

Loud and angry...probably part of the problem. We used to call them D&D...desperate and dateless, but I guess times have changed.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1735 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 14:07
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Most of the ones that embrace the title and are loud and angry about it are very problematic. I refer in this case to those responsible for violent anonymous threats of bodily harm in social media and YouTube comments, and in extreme cases, mass shooters.
There are plenty of people who have difficulty finding a romantic connection who aren't this way.

And yet you group them all together and declare them open season for violence...
Chye Isuel
 player, 1540 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 14:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 344):

they can't get no satisfaction. they try and they try and they try.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1541 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 15:10
Re: Out of Character 8
nazi just like racist, is what the marxist media calls everyone who disagrees with their progressive agenda, don'tcha know? i reckon i'mma bit fashy, but a nazi nor an incell, i am not.
Narrator
 GM, 6640 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 17:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 350):

Specifically in game I am describing a bunch of foes with both bully and intolerance, who have been committing hate crimes in a couple of threads. Both of those were formulated before the most recent batch of mass shootings.
It is these fictional opponents in game that I am urging pretend violence against,
Although I personally would punch someone wearing a swastika and stumping for the violent demise of members of groups my family belong to.

I am not advocating violence against the socially awkward, as I sure am in that category, but the folks with the flag of kekistan on their profiles are rapidly univited from my social media accounts.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1736 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 18:05
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Specifically in game I am describing a bunch of foes with both bully and intolerance...

Then you should do so in game, without resorting to the calling out of non-ingame groups, some of whom aren't the bogeyman of your political imaginings.

quote:
Although I personally would punch someone wearing a swastika and stumping for the violent demise of members of groups my family belong to.

Inversely, while I understand the desire to push whole groups of screeching SJWs down empty elevator shafts... I'd never call for committing violence against other humans.

If someone is calling for violence against yours, call the police.  Such talk is criminal afterall.

Throwing fists and swinging pipes at people 'your side' has screamed "NAZI" at is what causes violence against those innocent of the charges.  And just fuels the other side to 'righteous' vindication.  That's what helped the actual Nazis rise to power.
Oly
 player, 1122 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 18:06
Re: Out of Character 8
WHAT!? Someone is dissing the Irish?
Oly
 player, 1123 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 18:08
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 352):

Yes it is... funny how we seem to be going down the same slippery slope today.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1542 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 18:12
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Oly (msg # 353):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT0yoo9B2Bc come out ye black and tans!
Narrator
 GM, 6641 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 18:47
Re: Out of Character 8
I apologise to all for not being clear with my inappropriate caricatures and threats made against them. It is not what I meant at all.
Oly
 player, 1124 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 18:50
Re: Out of Character 8
You are OK, We all are OK...  let's game on....
Narrator
 GM, 6642 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 18:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Oly (msg # 357):

The original post has been edited for clarity and humility for any bumping into it later.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1543 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 18:54
Re: Out of Character 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rroZv3rFEoU game on!
Narrator
 GM, 6643 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 19:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 359):

Ok, thank you for bearing with my mental disadvantages, and back to pur usual collection of giant insects, critical spell failures, unlockable boxes, and cultists.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1544 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 19:47
Re: Out of Character 8
eh, either way it's interesting to me.
Mancini
 player, 252 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 23:10
Re: Out of Character 8
The Guild does not approve of violence... Unless it is done for profit in the Arena and we get a hefty cut of it.
Marlena DuBois
 NPC, 117 posts
 traveling magician
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 23:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 360):

And first roll out of the park: 18.
The reality warping table (for weirdness magnet) has some disturbing effects, like a god appearing to tell you to stop... Or getting an elder thing.
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 911 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Tue 6 Aug 2019
at 23:32
Re: Out of Character 8
Marlena DuBois:
In reply to Narrator (msg # 360):

And first roll out of the park: 18.
The reality warping table (for weirdness magnet) has some disturbing effects, like a god appearing to tell you to stop... Or getting an elder thing.


You mean I might get to see Dad face to face?!
Ales Konstantin
 player, 771 posts
 Spellsword
Wed 7 Aug 2019
at 02:44
Re: Out of Character 8
I smell an episode of Maury....
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1662 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Wed 7 Aug 2019
at 06:15
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Marlena DuBois (msg # 363):

Oh, not the first for one with weirdness magnate...not by far!
Kirpich Rockson
 player, 923 posts
 Earth Cleric
 He Rocks!
Wed 7 Aug 2019
at 06:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 366):

I count at least 2 threads still currently dealing with critical failure results from those casting spells with weirdness magnet! And that is just my characters! 4/10 characters I play have it. Actually, the weirdest one, Gareth, does not. How does that work??? lol, perhaps an oversight!
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1738 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Wed 7 Aug 2019
at 11:21
Re: Out of Character 8
Kirpich Rockson:
I count at least 2 threads still currently dealing with critical failure results from those casting spells with weirdness magnet! And that is just my characters! 4/10 characters I play have it. Actually, the weirdest one, Gareth, does not. How does that work??? lol, perhaps an oversight!

Probably that he's so weird, he don't need to draw anymore weirdness to himself...
Narrator
 GM, 6649 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 7 Aug 2019
at 20:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 368):

I was actually pushing for weirdness magnet for him, as he was an actual prisoner of elder things, but nooo somebody had to go and take bloodlust and look where we are now.


Back tomorrow, trying to knock out commissions

This message was last edited by the GM at 20:33, Wed 07 Aug 2019.

Gareth
 player, 454 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Wed 7 Aug 2019
at 20:39
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 369):

Yes, well, it seemed to make sense at the time. I don't remember you pushing for it for him, but that may be my selective memory...he was always meant to be a little unbalanced!

Edit: Actually read through...Weirdness Magnet was only suggested for Hograth, but declined. Funny neither of us mentioned it for the resident Psychopath...even if he had weird written all over him! That has been rectified...

This message was last edited by the player at 04:59, Fri 09 Aug 2019.

Christine Bjorn
 player, 1663 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Fri 9 Aug 2019
at 04:59
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 370):

Wait, has the fire elemental been replaced by a flying skull, or was that a mis-click?
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 253 posts
Fri 9 Aug 2019
at 17:03
Re: Out of Character 8
Gareth...  A LITTLE imbalanced????
Gareth
 player, 456 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Fri 9 Aug 2019
at 20:47
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 372):

Of course! Mainly just misunderstood!
Narrator
 GM, 6651 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 11 Aug 2019
at 15:56
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 373):

So now he has gotten a lit of that ut of his sytem.

Burke is about to join your group- in Near Al Menir.

Also, please get a room and take a bath. A suite of rooms comes with a pool for bathing
Gareth
 player, 460 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Sun 11 Aug 2019
at 20:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 374):

But Gareth is afraid of water! He likes to bathe in fire, so he usually bathes alone. Unless they have fire detectors in the room, or excessive paper walls (think Japanese style) that should not be an issue though.
Adept Yisslitheniss
 player, 148 posts
 Reptileman cleric
Sun 11 Aug 2019
at 21:05
Re: Out of Character 8
The Adept can't wait to see them bathe as he has heard that they look tantalizingly tasty unclothed... but he, of course, would never eat another sentient.

This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 17:01, Mon 12 Aug 2019.

Gareth
 player, 461 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Mon 12 Aug 2019
at 07:22
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Adept Yisslitheniss (msg # 376):

And you criticize me?
Adept Yisslitheniss
 player, 149 posts
 Reptileman cleric
Mon 12 Aug 2019
at 17:02
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 377):

Certainly ... you are uncouth, unlike me.
Narrator
 GM, 6657 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 12 Aug 2019
at 19:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Adept Yisslitheniss (msg # 378):

The room with the sunken tub is behind curtains. For part of CoL your clothes will be cleaned and mended.  It would be worthwhile to buy town clothing, for reaction purposes ($120 base, modded by quality, or rented for $6/day, modded by quality) This would facilitate action while your travel gear is cleaned and mended.


I will catch up by tomorrow.
Gareth
 player, 462 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Mon 12 Aug 2019
at 19:51
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 379):

Yeah, you just like eating people...much better!

Probably not a bad idea, if someone suggests it right. But dress Gareth up, and he will still be foreign...as he is now.
Adept Yisslitheniss
 player, 150 posts
 Reptileman cleric
Mon 12 Aug 2019
at 21:16
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 380):

The benefits of a 12" tongue ...I could be very popular...
Narrator
 GM, 6658 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 13 Aug 2019
at 20:16
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Adept Yisslitheniss (msg # 381):

Now, now, settle down. Very bad day, will post tomorrow
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1741 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 13 Aug 2019
at 21:06
Re: Out of Character 8
Adept Yisslitheniss:
The benefits of a 12" tongue ...I could be very popular...

And razor sharp teeth.  I doubt anyone wants you within one foot of their tender privates with those razor sharp teeth.
Adept Yisslitheniss
 player, 151 posts
 Reptileman cleric
Tue 13 Aug 2019
at 23:35
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 383):

Not razor sharp... needle sharp for tearing... I have noted some reluctance.
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 256 posts
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 21:17
Re: Out of Character 8
I noted your suggestions for rooms, town clothing, and a bath boss.  First, the greetings and normal amenities.

Welcome minio..... Burke.
Ryojin
 player, 5 posts
 Martial artist
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 21:30
Re: Out of Character 8
Kinda hard to find a point to put Ryojin into the group, so I am going to shoehorn him in now! :D
Narrator
 GM, 6659 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 14 Aug 2019
at 21:36
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ryojin (msg # 386):

He is staying at same inn?

Shit day at work, may post tomorrow?
Berry
 player, 125 posts
 Mage
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 04:59
Re: Out of Character 8
I've nearly finished recovering from a particularly nasty throat infection! Will also try and post tomorrow. :)
Gareth
 player, 465 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 07:39
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Berry (msg # 388):

Cool to all...might be busy until Wednesday, though should get a chance to post tomorrow...
Narrator
 GM, 6662 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 17:41
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 389):

Grimaldi and Sederic, your next expedition may be in Mancini's employ. This would also remove the Ludlow issue.
Sederic
 player, 304 posts
 half elven
 sword mage
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 20:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 390):

Sounds good. May be scarce until Tuesday night AEST.
Grimaldi
 player, 469 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Thu 15 Aug 2019
at 21:48
Re: Out of Character 8
noted
Narrator
 GM, 6674 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 16:59
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 392):

Oly, I hope that will resolve your Ludlow issue, having two arcane casters to help look for the shop
Oly
 player, 1127 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 19:26
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 393):

Didn't see the two casters... but Oly ,IC  is a bit nervous about Ludlow's castings... the Player is much less concerned.
Narrator
 GM, 6675 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 19:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Oly (msg # 394):

Grimaldi and Sederic would be the additions to the group. Both are fighter mages
Oly
 player, 1128 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 22:52
Re: Out of Character 8
OK, we'll see how it goes.... do they have The Whimsey spell too?
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 262 posts
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 23:01
Re: Out of Character 8
Good thing you mentioned the fullish bazaar.  Was considering something stupid for Haveron...  :D
Grimaldi
 player, 475 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Mon 19 Aug 2019
at 23:04
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Oly (msg # 396):

a darkness clings to both of our auras, no doubt. we'd make good agents for that mission, methinks.
Sederic
 player, 305 posts
 half elven
 sword mage
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 08:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 398):

Quite likely...anywhere I can learn the spell Whimsey?
Narrator
 GM, 6677 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 20:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Sederic (msg # 399):

You need magery 2 abd weirdness magnet. See Ludlow...


Also: once the Yurick family Tavern opens, we will be recruiting sub-junior characters to deal with the rat problem....

https://drive.google.com/file/...rj/view?usp=drivesdk


Be back in the morning
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 2 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 20:38
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 400):

Uff Da!
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 1 post
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 20:39
Re: Out of Character 8
Hold on to yer lutefisk!
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1747 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 20:56
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Also: once the Yurick family Tavern opens, we will be recruiting sub-junior characters to deal with the rat problem....

"Sub-junior"?  Is anyone even going to want to play Characters that weak?
Ryojin
 player, 10 posts
 Martial artist
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 21:25
Re: Out of Character 8
*Already making a sub mage for said sub adventure*

Edit:: Noticed the 75pt mage has an error:

ST: 9 [ -10]; DX: 10 [0]; IQ: 12 [40]; HT: 10 [0].
Thrust/Swing: 1d- 2/1d -1; Basic Lift 16 lbs.
HP 9 [0]; Will 12 [0]; Per 10 [ 10]; FP 13 [9]
Basic Speed 5.00 [ 5]; Basic Move 5 [0]

Total cost 54 instead of 49.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:35, Tue 20 Aug 2019.

Oly
 player, 1129 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 21:45
Re: Out of Character 8
As long as the threats are equally weak, it could be fun. Taking on demons with 75 point characters is unlikely ... as someone said, anyone can play a 500 point character, but playing a 75 point character well is a fun challenge.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1748 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 22:10
Re: Out of Character 8
Oly:
... playing a 75 point character well is a fun challenge.

I prefer my Characters to be competent at more than one thing these days.  So... no I won't be joining that group.
Oly
 player, 1130 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 22:33
Re: Out of Character 8
They'll be competent at more than one thing ! They can walk, breathe and do something else too ;-)
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1270 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 22:51
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth Mooncalled:
"Sub-junior"?  Is anyone even going to want to play Characters that weak?


Back in 3e, I experimented with zero-point character builds.  Far from being "pointless" (see what I did there?), it's not all that hard to make a reasonably functional character even with a net zero points.  Harder with a mage, but if you're in a high-mana region you can play a hedge wizard without Magery.  Still with zero point cost.

Anyway, I'm interested in the sub-juniors.  Looks like you've got a mage already; let me go dig around the Henchmen templates and see what I can do for a sneak-and-grab sort.  Still 50 points of disads?
Ryojin
 player, 11 posts
 Martial artist
Tue 20 Aug 2019
at 23:00
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
Jareth Mooncalled:
"Sub-junior"?  Is anyone even going to want to play Characters that weak?


Back in 3e, I experimented with zero-point character builds.  Far from being "pointless" (see what I did there?), it's not all that hard to make a reasonably functional character even with a net zero points.  Harder with a mage, but if you're in a high-mana region you can play a hedge wizard without Magery.  Still with zero point cost.

Anyway, I'm interested in the sub-juniors.  Looks like you've got a mage already; let me go dig around the Henchmen templates and see what I can do for a sneak-and-grab sort.  Still 50 points of disads?



Click the link is posted, its not using DF henchmen.



On a side note, the mage I made will be an assistant fire mage that wants to become a powerful spell caster but weird things are always happening to him, good at making maps, research, and even knows things about elementals and demons!
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1749 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 00:49
Re: Out of Character 8
Ryojin:
*Already making a sub mage for said sub adventure*

Ardenas Barehand:
Anyway, I'm interested in the sub-juniors.

Well, then I guess gwythaint does know his audience.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1550 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 00:51
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 403):
*plays lynard skynard: simple man*
Narrator
 GM, 6678 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 02:00
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 411):

I find the 125 point  characters  fairly competant at some of what they do; it is a struggle to play 62-75
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1750 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 02:36
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
I find the 125 point  characters  fairly competant at some of what they do; it is a struggle to play 62-75

I will admit that my actual dislike of sub-250 characters comes more from 100(ish) point GMs not understanding that at that level you don't need to pile on -2 and -4 penalties on to every roll "to make the game challenging".  They seem to think that "the challenge* is what makes the play FUN!".

For me it doesn't.  Luckily gwythaint doesn't pile on the penalties, so the Juniors game has been as enjoyable for me as the 250 point play level.  Also I get as much enjoyment† out of non-combat scenes as I do combat, and he seems to enjoy just letting those roll out as necessary.



* By which they actually mean "constant never ending failure".
† Actually more.
Oly
 player, 1131 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 02:50
Re: Out of Character 8
No arguments there...
Anita Drake
 player, 48 posts
 Adventuress
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 07:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 408):

There actually is a theif in the Juniours at the moment...

I have to agree, there are a lot of GMs who find it hard to run a low point game without a lot of casualties, because things like dodge and DR are generally not very good, and many GMs do not wind down the threat level. Perhaps it is past experience, but I have experienced  number of GMs who wound down the point level to make the game more lethal. For someone who likes character development more than just making up new ones, that can be frustrating...
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1271 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 09:09
Re: Out of Character 8
Wow, I should have read a little longer/more carefully.  I spent a half hour last night putting together a first hack at a 62 point "rogue" -- and now I see I have another 13 points to play with.

Fine point question, though -- do attribute reductions below 10 always count against disads?  I recall it used to be 8 or lower, but that may be something that changed between 3rd and 4th editions.  If so, I may only have 3 points left (due to 50 point disad limit).
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1668 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 09:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 416):

Unless it is part of a racial template, attribute points do usually count against disads, though it often depends on the GM.

Is your theif the grabby or stabby sort? Mine is more specialized in utilizing pointy things in subtle ways, though with 15 Lockpick, she can open stuff. But sleight of hand and pickpocket are much lower...but with filch at 14, I probably should utilize these skills more...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1751 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 10:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Anita Drake:
There actually is a theif in the Juniours at the moment...

Several... oh wait, you mean the actual Template?  ;)



Ardenas Barehand:
Fine point question, though -- do attribute reductions below 10 always count against disads? 

By RAW, yes.
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 450 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 16:36
Re: Out of Character 8
Another GM on this very site once ran a large group of 50 point orcs and goblins against a small group of 250 point knights.  It was a tower scenario, where the goblinoids had to invade and kill the inhabitants, pretty standard stuff.  I found that game quite enjoyable as a pure combat game.  It was a challenging build because you had to be combat effective but still competent at climbing and other sorts of stuff.

Larger point games mean you can be good at IQ skills AND DX skills at the same time.  Smaller point games mean you tend to be more specialized.  However, with a good mix of characters you can function almost as efficiently.  You're only going to have one person with Merchant, for example, instead of 3 at varying levels of skill.  And only half the party will be any good in a fight, so the combat challenges have to be tailored to the skill of the group.

I 100% agree this is usually a GM issue as much as it is a player issue.  The GM has to find challenges and a story line appropriate to the group as constructed.  I don't typically GM because it's way more involved than it looks (from my perspective).  Plus, creating a good story line really seems like a talent to me.

Don't forget the player issue, however.  Many of us gamer types like to min/max our characters to make them insanely good at some class of skills (or spells).  It's nice to have an almost guarenteed success, and be mostly automatic at one role in the group.  However, a smaller point total means there will be way more gray area, as in way more uncertainty in just handling more mundane tasks.  Not every gamer will be comfortable in that space.

I personally try hard to manage my tendency towards being a power gamer.  It's not always easy.  Thankfully improving a character over time ends up being just as much fun for me, so I can live in the character development space.

Mostly this rehashes a few of the points already made.  But, we can all probably relate to part of what I said.  Thare's a lot more to it than meets the eye.  :)

Carry on.  Very good then.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:38, Wed 21 Aug 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6679 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 17:49
Re: Out of Character 8
For the sub juniors, I would prefer that the characters be built from these templates. Some of them have reduced attributes already, which is figured into the disad limit, including things like reduced per, will, or basic move.
https://drive.google.com/file/...rj/view?usp=drivesdk
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1272 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 22:07
Re: Out of Character 8
Okay, trying to work from the Thief template -- can't find Manual Dexterity under advantages in any of the usual rule sets.  Ah, wait, found it -- under "High Manual Dexterity".  Okay, back to the sheet edit...

Looks like there's a calculation error in the Attributes total of the Thief template.  I get a cost of 55 for the exact values listed, but the bottom of the template shows 65 for Attributes.  And I still had to take more disadvantages (Unluckiness, Scotophobia CR12) to make -50, even counting the Per 9 (IQ-2) as a -10 disad.

Got it worked out; had to give up a little color (no more having Father Robards as a contact, just couldn't afford the 4 cp, etc.).  Working on equipment now.

This message was last edited by the player at 22:49, Thu 22 Aug 2019.

Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 451 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Thu 22 Aug 2019
at 23:10
Re: Out of Character 8
I'd be interested, but already have enough bodies to marionette.  :)

[Private to GM: Omar has most of a character sheet up.  Needs help on equipment and a few details like attack stats, but I can fill that in later.  Wanted to get at least most of the character up.]
Ryojin
 player, 12 posts
 Martial artist
Fri 23 Aug 2019
at 01:12
Re: Out of Character 8
Almost done with my Sub-junior Mage, got equipment left to work on.
Narrator
 GM, 6680 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 23 Aug 2019
at 01:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 421):

Eh you can still be friendly with Father Robard, he is just "busy" and you can buy into it. He isn't a very powerful person, and his contact can be occasional.

I have to review the file... Thanks for checking my math!
Narrator
 GM, 6681 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 23 Aug 2019
at 12:49
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 424):

I have been under a great deal of stress lately, between work and the decreased control rating of my mental disads, the commissions I am working in, the ftf game I am running tomorrow, and the serious issue of  my spending more time on all o of these hobbies than my marriage. I will definitely be caught up by Sunday. But things may seriously start slowing in the months to cone, as my wife's job will have her working from home, which will cut down on my posting at lunch and during the time she is usually on her way home from work.
Oly
 player, 1132 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Fri 23 Aug 2019
at 16:03
Re: Out of Character 8
And It shouldn't be a problem for any of us ... we have always said RL comes first. That includes wives.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1752 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 23 Aug 2019
at 16:15
Re: Out of Character 8
Oly:
That includes wives.

"I've never said that!" protests the unmarried person.

;)
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1670 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Fri 23 Aug 2019
at 22:48
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 427):

Understand perfectly well. I may be heading back to sea at the end of September, so I might likewise be gone.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1273 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Fri 23 Aug 2019
at 22:50
Re: Out of Character 8
There's a good reason I haven't GMed in more than ten years.  Takes too danged much time.  I have time to play (in addition to three characters in this game, I'm in two D&D 5th groups each meeting every other weekend).  I don't have time to spend tens of hours a week prepping.

Do what you need to do.  Keep the wife happy -- else everything else goes to hell.
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 3 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Sat 24 Aug 2019
at 06:46
Re: Out of Character 8
Old wive's tales!
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 2 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Sat 24 Aug 2019
at 06:47
Re: Out of Character 8
*Gives the side-eye*
Narrator
 GM, 6699 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 13:21
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Hetilda Yurick (msg # 431):

Delay in Al Menir is waiting on Haveron, who is the group leader. I need to know if we are stopping in the rooms first, reactions from cityfolk depend on it; if not there will be more fighting in the way to the sage.
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 263 posts
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 16:47
Re: Out of Character 8
I didn't expect to be off this weekend, wife was out of town and so I expected to have plenty of time.  Then that morphed into a giant house project and poof...  There it all went.

Have a post up this morning as I get caught up.  Sorry for the delay.
Gareth
 player, 469 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Tue 27 Aug 2019
at 07:37
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 432):

Ohh, burning fighting? Burning down the house...
Narrator
 GM, 6705 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 28 Aug 2019
at 20:29
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 434):

Haven't been able to post; yesterday I was visiting my mother (she is well and planning a trip to Portugal);
Today was grossly overscheduled at work, worked through my free time, break, and after hours. Plus it was enema day.

This message was last edited by the GM at 20:34, Wed 28 Aug 2019.

Aegis
 player, 245 posts
 Veteran Mercenary
 Master-at-Arms
Wed 28 Aug 2019
at 22:00
Re: Out of Character 8
I bet you were gushing with excitement.

.....Sorry, I'll just mark him down for a new 25 pt disad now.
Narrator
 GM, 6708 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 01:30
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aegis (msg # 436):

It is really a lot rougher on the patients even when I have more mess to clean up. Coming to the hospital is tantamount to an alien abduction. I try to alleviate the stress and anxiety, or at least of coming to my department. I have been working in health care for 29 years this December, and ten in radiology. I have been a patient myself on several occasions, and I see a lot from their end.

Just the same, this was my day:

https://drive.google.com/file/...6d/view?usp=drivesdk
Chye Isuel
 player, 1553 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 02:27
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 437):                                                                    taco day at the cafeteria, and enema day, on the same day!

This message was lightly edited by the player at 02:28, Thu 29 Aug 2019.

Grimaldi
 player, 487 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 02:32
Re: Out of Character 8
so, this var is the same var that's with berry, and works at the illicit magic shop. he can apparently teleport back and forth, and maybe this rethus fellow is the mysterious proprietor of the said shop...shit's about to get very interesting. :P
Rethus
 NPC, 5 posts
 Handsome stranger
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 03:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 439):

"I do not own or operate that establishment.  I merely profit by it. You ought question where summonable allies are when not with you."
Gareth
 player, 471 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 07:12
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rethus (msg # 440):

Kind of starting to point to a Party V party here...
Aegis
 player, 246 posts
 Veteran Mercenary
 Master-at-Arms
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 14:06
Re: Out of Character 8
I really did LOL at your picture boss....  :)
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1673 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 20:17
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aegis (msg # 442):

As did I, for quite a few minutes! Sounds like the local news I am listening too...
Narrator
 GM, 6715 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 20:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Gareth (msg # 441):

Simply put, if your magical ally is only available on a 12 or less, where are they the rest of the time? If you have an ally who only shows up on a 9, then someone else does too. The question is who?

Was running around the OR today, and doing this: https://gwythaintny.wordpress....08/29/minicon-recap/

Be back tomorrow
Narrator
 GM, 6716 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 22:48
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 444):

Initially when I started this, I was running from a handful of pdf's and there was a lot of freeform characters. Lately, I have been trying to work with characters that do not diverge from template. I am good with a lot of blended templates and lenses, and I have approved exotic weapons because of little Sahud being in town. At this point, I am assuming most of us have at least DF1. If I am wrong, let me know. I have put off luxeries like gaming materials often because bills came first. I am graced by my SO's income, and not everyone has that. Hell, without her I would have to chose between buying food and keeping the fridge running, and I would be typing this in a library.
I am trying to run a game using a discrete set of rules within a larger toolset, and that subset has templates.
I like all of you, I admire your creativity. I want tpo play the same game with you together.
Oly
 player, 1139 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 23:31
Re: Out of Character 8
Personally I just liked plain old GURPS, but if everyone wants to play the half D&D DFRPG I can live with it.
I bought the boxed set sometime back, so I have the rules, just didn't care for the step backward.
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 3 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 00:34
Re: Out of Character 8
the templates are hard for me to work with when creating, because they turn out lack-luster and cookie-cutter. it really blunts my enthusiasm, and it's hard to get into them. i also enjoy equipping my players in a customized fashion, and that is harder to do, since the templates actually tell you what equipment you have to use as well. lol it's like the socialism of gurps.

This message was last edited by the player at 00:35, Fri 30 Aug 2019.

Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1754 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 02:36
Re: Out of Character 8
Oly:
Personally I just liked plain old GURPS, but if everyone wants to play the half D&D DFRPG I can live with it.

The problem with "plain old GURPS", especially in a dungeon hack style game (which face it, Northport is one half dungeon hack and one half kitchen sink fantasy heartbreaker) is you can easily end with Characters who aren't capable of handling a combat1... and that leads to its own set of problems.

You also end up with "one schtick wonders" that are completely incompetent outside of their one tiny niche2... which is another whole set of problems.

My preference3 is "hew 'closeish' to the template".  Like making a Martial Artist that wields a horsecutter, because that's bad-ass, but totally not on template.  Or a Scout with Lockpicking and Traps as a secondary Thief, the Swashbuckler/Holy Warrior mix, etc.


1 - Much like Jareth, who even if I piled another 125 points on him wouldn't be "combat" capable.

2 - Like Jednesa... though to be fair her niche is huge.  Almost as big as she is.

3 - My preference as a GM if I'm running DF.  My preference as a Player is clearly "take inspiration from Templates, but use them in name only".  But if we had to hew to them going forward, I'd be fine with it, as long as gwythaint agreed to lighten up on the social/town challenges, as DF Characters built to template aren't generally competent in those areas.



Hetilda Yurick:
i also enjoy equipping my players in a customized fashion, and that is harder to do, since the templates actually tell you what equipment you have to use as well. lol it's like the socialism of gurps.

No they don't.  I mean, hate the templates all day long... but they don't dictate equipment.  At worst it's suggestive based on skills chosen (which if you follow a template is limited), but it isn't dictated.
Oly
 player, 1140 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 02:52
Re: Out of Character 8
I don't believe any of the characters I have made are one shot wonders... I believe Gwythaint can confirm that, if you doubt me. Even Jocelyn can do more than one things if need be. They aren't Swiss army knife characters, but they have abilities in several related realms.
Ryojin
 player, 13 posts
 Martial artist
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 02:59
Re: Out of Character 8
Which templates did you use to be able to achieve that? Sure, certain DF templates lend themselves to being better at handling more than one niche (Bard is good at Social and combat with a splash of magic, and the innkeeper without magic), but for most of them, they fall short. Martial Artist is good at nothing but combat, and its not even the best at that. No survival skills, social skills, or thieving skills at any level that makes them useful and its skills and special skills are spread among all the attributes even though its highest score is DX (looking at you breaking blow and power blow).

Not saying it is impossible to cover all your bases, but you do have to lean outside most templates to achieve that.
Oly
 player, 1141 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 03:06
Re: Out of Character 8
True, none of my characters were Template characters... except the last, and he is a 75 point character who is pretty one dimensional.
Of Course at 75 points it is hard no to be.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1755 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 04:25
Re: Out of Character 8
Oly:
I don't believe any of the characters I have made are one shot wonders...

Note, I said "tend to", not "automatically happens to everyone".  Also, the other advantage of Templates is 'niche protection', which has been further refined in DFRPG.




Ryojin:
Sure, certain DF templates lend themselves to being better at handling more than one niche (Bard is good at Social and combat with a splash of magic, and the innkeeper without magic), but for most of them, they fall short.

That's not true.  They fall short in social skills, yes.  Everyone of them except the Bard (and a few side templates like the Demonologist and Shaman) falls short in social skills.  But that's because each Template* does two things well, one thing poorly, and then not much else.


* Okay, except the Knight.  Knight are hyper-focused and do one thing really, really well, and not much else.


quote:
Martial Artist is good at nothing but combat...

Untrue.  They are hands down the best at Dungeon Parkour.  Only the Thief rivals them, but as Thief lacks Jumping (and several esoteric abilities), this is where the Martial Artist really shines.  Getting into those hard-to-reach dungeon areas... and then getting killed alone, without back-up.

quote:
(looking at you breaking blow and power blow).

Which is Will and Chi Talent based, so pretty easy to buy up.

quote:
Not saying it is impossible to cover all your bases, but you do have to lean outside most templates to achieve that.

Yes, the Templates are built for 'Dungeon Hack'.  If you don't want to play 'old skool dungeon crawl fantasy' then DF really isn't for you (or your GM just has to understand this and allow flexibility in going off-Template - which gwythaint has been really relaxed about so far).
Ryojin
 player, 14 posts
 Martial artist
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 04:44
Re: Out of Character 8
Swashbuckler is the parkour champ. can buy higher basic speed and basic move before any special abilities. And has power ups based on moving, can also have perfect balance out the gate.

A Martial artist can have a top move of:
BSPD 9 BM 10
BSPD 8 BM 11/16 (points on an ability)
BSPD 8 BM 9/18 (points on an ability)
BSPD 7 BM 10/20 (points on an ability)

while the swashbuckler can have
BSPD 10 BM 10
BSPD 9 BM 12

Scout can also have
BSPD 9 BM 9
BSPD 7 BM 13
BSPD 8 BM 12
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 4 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 06:43
Re: Out of Character 8
In Mother Shevnia.. you not make template... template make YOU!
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1288 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 09:20
Re: Out of Character 8
I'll admit it, I'm not a huge fan of templates either.  The main thing they're good for, IMO, is ensuring I don't just plain forget something important.  They also serve as nice "wish lists" -- in that there is always a bunch of stuff on them I won't have the points for, and can "wish I had" for the life of the character.

I'm with Oly, overall, in thinking DF is a step backward relative to vanilla GURPS.  Templates can be useful -- the "lens" variety especially, to ensure you don't build a cleric and forget the "Power Investiture" or some such -- but they're something of a strait jacket in terms of building a character to a concept.

The big thing they do is save the GM time and effort in character checking.  You can verify a character build against a template in less than half the time it takes to go through a free-form and weed out cheese and bonehead mistakes.  I'm pretty sure Gwythaint can use all the time savers he can find.  It also seems to me he's more of a "dungeon crawl" player than some of us, and that's fine.

I don't have time to GM the game I'd like to (one word, for those who recognize it: Carsultyal), so I'll play in the one(s) I can find.  This game has been good fun for four years, so far, and I don't have any plans to abandon it over templates.  I don't make characters often enough to make a big deal out of them.

For one trick ponies, that's the sort of thing you get when you lower point totals.  The fewer points you have, the fewer things your character can do well, or even with basic competency.  Those zero-point characters I experimented with (several years ago; it was in 3e, as I recall) didn't really do anything well, but they could do one thing well enough to get by, and occasionally a second above default.  Think primary skill at 11 or 12.

Then again, a first level D&D character has always sucked.  Even in 5th Ed., I recently had a warlock who had enough power to burn an enemy to the ground (at first level!) -- but combat hits required such high rolls that I almost never actually could (especially with only one spell slot between rests at that level).
Svendegard Yurick
 player, 1 post
 Innkeepers Son
 Shevnian Adventurer
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 11:20
Re: Out of Character 8
<quote Ardenas Barehand>

The big thing they do is save the GM time and effort in character checking.  You can verify a character build against a template in less than half the time it takes to go through a free-form and weed out cheese and bonehead mistakes.  I'm pretty sure Gwythaint can use all the time savers he can find.

^good point^
especially with future constraints ahead.

This message was last edited by the player at 11:21, Fri 30 Aug 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6717 posts
 DM says
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Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 11:57
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Svendegard Yurick (msg # 456):

My fat fingers turned this into a private post last night:


In reply to Hetilda Yurick (msg # 447):

The templates don't tell you what gear, I am holding on to DFRPG for Armor prices, and am willing to flex on a lot of non firearm weaponry- gust ask Nodwin about that damned Batleh he is hauling around. If you are building a character, pick a template to build from, especially combos from DF15 and we can work through things like disadvantages and background skills that fit better. There have been more than one that shucked off the requisite template skills to johnny-one-spell it, and then wind up drastically limited.
I like other barbarian  builds than the "must have disguise animals and animal mimicry because you Must have every skill that gets a bonus from the talent" I am more open to modding a template to ditch anachronistic and useless skills from it.
Yes the templates say "grab a skill from this category of weapon at 16, another at 14, and a couple of support unarmed combat skill at 12 and 11" but you can do things like bump up unarmed combat instead.
I do have a lot of issue with the sameness of a lot of the disads, and am open to alteration.

Period is important to me: the setting is late fourteenth century,  I can flex a little, but not to the 17th

This message was last edited by the GM at 12:00, Fri 30 Aug 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6719 posts
 DM says
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Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 12:15
Re: Out of Character 8
Now, I have had some fun with a few off book disads;Johan Snow (who bought gladiator armor? No more Lorica Segmenta folks. Went out if fashion about 800 years ago) who took weirdness magnet and grew tentacles, was followed by moths and had a troll fall in love with him.
Ales has a rival enemy with low frequency. It has been fun inflicting someone on his group that has plot protection unless Ales kills him.
Christine... Now she is a piece of work. Initially I mistook her coitophobia for a female player using the X-card. Instead it was someone groping for points while looking to avoid the pitfalls of an Adult game (we are Mature here) and she got -4 to all rolls in a room full if erotic trill art. Let's not mention her evil twin...
Narrator
 GM, 6720 posts
 DM says
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Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 12:36
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 458):

One of the useful things about templates is disad points from rounding down fractional basic speed, and mild nerfing of will and per fir IQ based characters that aren't towers of will by template. It has minimal game effect (going from 14 to 12 per on someone with absent minded or oblivious really doesn't make much difference) and avoids the needless stacking of -5 disadvantages that don't fit your character concept.
Dropping basic speed can be bypassed simply by blowing a turn on Wait, which will get you to the first position after that. Plus most opponents are at 6.0 or worse (most guard types ate rounded diwn to 5)
Any time I start with the stubborn/overconfident/compulsive carousing/impulsive stack, I can't help thinking of my brother and his ADD. It is playable, and much better than liner/bad temper which means minimal communication in a text based game... The only way to get points for being in character is to post a lot of thinking.

I would like to see more templates with IQ 11-12 instead if the straight 10 for all of the combat types. Yes, born war leader boosts a fistful of IQ based skills, but could there be an easier build to let a combat weary fighter have decent levels of diplomacy, instead of following the Corbin Dallas school of negotiation?

We have seen how the bloodlust/impulsive combo can really wreck things, and if we were all face to face, that sixty day side trip to fry the bandits would have been resolved in twenty minutes.
Narrator
 GM, 6721 posts
 DM says
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Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 13:10
Re: Out of Character 8
And ending the rant,
If you are going off book, I need to see a little formatting in character submissions; (I also have some ADD as part of my collection of mental disads) and am usually using my phone.

Giving a point breakdown at the top helps me, as well as a reference point

Based loosely in guard template
att:60 Add:15 Dis:30 q:-5 sk:22 total: 62
St:12 [20] DX:11[20] IQ:10[0] HT:12 [20]
Hp:12 [0] per:10 [0] will:10 [0] fp:12 [0]
Bs:5.0 [-15] mv:5 dodge:9
 parry:10 block:10
Advantages:[15]
 [15] combat reflexes
Disads:[-30]
 (-15 reduced B.S.)
 [-5] compulsive carousing
 [-10] lazy
Q:[-5]
 -always late
 -disheveled
 -reeks of hemp
 -hungry
 -calls everyone dude
Skills:[22]
 Broadsword  DX/A [8] 13
 Shield DX/E [2]12
 Brawling DX/E [1] 11
 Wrestling DX/A [1] 10
 Knife DX/E [1] 11
 Crossbow DX/E [2] 12
 Armory: melee weapons IQ/A [1] 9
 Fastdraw: broadsword DX/E [1] 12*
 Carousing HT/E [2] 13
 Swimming HT/E [1] 12
 Surfing DX/A [1] 10

Equipment:
Cheap broadsword $210
Gambeson DR1 torso/groin/arms $78
Pot helm $225 DR 4
Boots DR2 $80
Cheap large knife $20
Medium shield $90
Crossbow $150
Quiver $20
20 bolts $40
Backpack $80
1 week rations $14
Rope, 10yds $5
10 torches $10
Pouch $20
Personal basics $5
Pipe $5
Sack of hemp $10
Total $997
Cash $3

(Math off on gear)

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:33, Fri 30 Aug 2019.

Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1756 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 13:30
Re: Out of Character 8
Ryojin:
Swashbuckler is the parkour champ.

Moving "slightly" faster is not what I mean when I say "Dungeon Parkour".  Martial Artist has every movement skill except Swimming on it's Template as well as the special abilities/skills of Spider Climb*, Super Jump*, Light Walk, Cat Fall*, Perfect Balance*, Flexibility/Double Jointed...

The only thing the Martial Artist is missing from my personal list of "parkour skills"† is Escape and Urban Survival.  Which the Thief, the 'slow' dungeon parkourist, has (by 'slow' I mean he isn't leaping across chasms or running up walls, but anywhere the MA can get fast, the Thief can get slowly).

quote:
while the swashbuckler can have
BSPD 10 BM 10

Every one can.  Eventually.  If they buy up DX and HT...  ;)

But yes, yes, Squishybocklers will always be the Basic Speed queens.



*  Spider CLimb is on the DFRPG Template, Super Jump, Catfall, and Perfect Balance are on the DF Template.  I allow my Players to use both Templates for special abilities... and to suggest Power-Ups from out of book if they are thematically appropriate.  For instance I had a Martial Artist who could Breathe Fire and summon Dragon Scales (temporary DR) as he studied Dragon Man Kung Fu.

†  Dungeon Parkour skills:  Acrobatics, Climbing, Escape, Hiking, Jumping, Running, Urban Survival.  For a City Parkour list I add Area Know (City).



Kazimir Yurick:
In Mother Shevnia.. you not make template... template make YOU!

TRUTH!



Narrator:
I like other barbarian  builds than the "must have disguise animals and animal mimicry because you Must have every skill that gets a bonus from the talent" I am more open to modding a template to ditch anachronistic and useless skills from it.

This is a fact... considering that Jednesa is a Barbarian in name only*.  She has no survival skills or Outdoorsman.  SHe's actually a city girl... if only she were allowed in the city again.


* And strength, toughness, Frazettaness, and propensity to accidentally level buildings.



Narrator:
And ending the rant,
If you are going off book, I need to see a little formatting in character submissions; (I also have some ADD as part of my collection of mental disads) and am usually using my phone.

Glad to know my obsession with formatting isn't a problem...  /thumbsup.jpg
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 4 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 15:43
Re: Out of Character 8
yeah, i'll fix mine to look pretty, after everything is settled up.
Narrator
 GM, 6724 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 15:48
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Hetilda Yurick (msg # 462):

It makes it easier for me to read; it is how I write all of the NPCs if I am being Fancy I do
Attributes
Advantages
Disadvantages
Skills
Spells
Equipment

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:53, Fri 30 Aug 2019.

Oly
 player, 1142 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 15:59
Re: Out of Character 8
The template is a decent place to start a character built on more points. It, as other have said, gives you the basic bones of the character.
A 125 point template is a fine start for a 150 point character which you can then adjust.  Min-Maxing is unrealistic although I admit to having met one or two in real life.  One was a blonde who was all T&A and worked hard to keep in shape and keep the boys out of her panst (I think her Mom told her pregnancy ruins a girls figure).  She couldn't hold a conversation, had no other discernible skills but damn she looked good.

The other was a soldier forced into the Army under the MacNamara's 100,000 rules ... he had a GT (IQ) of 50 (Honest) and never got in trouble although he hung out with the dregs of society, most of whom were in big trouble all the time. He was too dumb to get in trouble. Not a bad kid really, but truly incapable of functioning on his own. Some of his buddies were damn smart, maybe not well educated, but smart ... pity they were all but impossible to get away from the back on the block skills that had worked for them up to then.  One Pvt had six whores and a Green Dodge Charger with that long fuzzy stuff glued all over the inside ... he hadn't had a pay check in like 6 months (can't get paid when you are AWOL) but had $800 in his shirt pocket when we finally nabbed him ... this back in the mid '70s when $800 was serious money.

Anyway, templates are a good tool, but don't work without thought and adaptation.
Narrator
 GM, 6729 posts
 DM says
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Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 19:05
Re: Out of Character 8
Well,shit. I just found out that they took the +1 to Basic Speed out of Combat Reflexes when 3e became 4e! I am 15 years late on that!
Rosewood
 player, 24 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 19:14
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Well,shit. I just found out that they took the +1 to Basic Speed out of Combat Reflexes when 3e became 4e! I am 15 years late on that!


Should that not be.  House rule.  We keeping the 3e rule of +1 to Basic Speed from of Combat Reflexes.  Unless anybody has issue it it.

he he...
Oly
 player, 1143 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 19:29
Re: Out of Character 8
I think it was supposed to make you act sooner, so they give a +1 or +2 to initiative now. does what was intended more logically now.
There are some concepts in 3e I much preferred ... Aware rather than Detect now, the first is passive, the second requires you to activate it.   The fact that Mages could sense certain things just by being near made much more sense to me...
Narrator
 GM, 6731 posts
 DM says
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Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 19:30
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 466):

Nah just ignore that if building 75 pointers
Chye Isuel
 player, 1555 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 22:00
Re: Out of Character 8
it should be +1 to BS, it's an expensive advantage.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1757 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 22:58
Re: Out of Character 8
Chye Isuel:
it should be +1 to BS, it's an expensive advantage.

WHAT??!?

Combat Reflexes is cheap as hell for all it gives.  Try building +1 to all defenses the 'hard' way...

Note, I'm against adding even more awesome into Combat Reflexes.  It's too much of a good thing already.

And no, it didn't add to Basic Speed in 3rd ed, or 2nd ed, or even Man to Man. Combat Reflexes has never added to Basic Speed.

My guess?  You're remembering house rules gwythaint.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1289 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 23:07
Re: Out of Character 8
Generally any "omnibus" advantages that changed cost from 3rd to 4th was because now they cost the sum of all the included bits, where 3rd often gave a discount for the package deal.

Boss, I'm pretty sure your formatting example is almost exactly what my HTML export from GCS produces.  If there are problems, I could probably figure out how to make some minor tweaks.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1675 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 23:18
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 463):

Give me time, I can try to adjust my characters that way. Since I do them all manually, the character sheets of mine seem pretty easy to read to me. Is it just me?

I am happy with working with the spirit of the DF templates, understanding the restrictions are part of the Df world, though sometimes the details are a bit sticky when I have a certain character concept in mind that does not exactly fit. The halfcrazed fire mage kind of works, though the stay-at-home artificer did not fit exactly. But then, I usually start with a concept and flesh it out, rather than starting with a template and shoe-horning the concept into the template. Just me.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1759 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sat 31 Aug 2019
at 03:21
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
Generally any "omnibus" advantages that changed cost from 3rd to 4th was because now they cost the sum of all the included bits, where 3rd often gave a discount for the package deal.

Combat Reflexes didn't change from 3e to 4e.  It did change from Man to Man to 2e (went from 15 points to 10 points) and from 2e to 3e (went back up to 15 points and added in +1 to all defenses*, +1 Fast Draw, and +2 Fright Checks).


* Yup, in MtM and 2e it was only +1/2 to Initiative and +6 to recover from Surprise/Wake up.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1760 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sat 31 Aug 2019
at 03:25
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
It makes it easier for me to read; it is how I write all of the NPCs if I am being Fancy I do
Attributes
Advantages
Disadvantages
Skills
Spells
Equipment

Just the category names?  Or everything?
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1676 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Sat 31 Aug 2019
at 04:23
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 474):

I modified my characters with everything. Headings in bold, spell sub-classes in blue to break it up. probably should sort the formatting and allies next...
Narrator
 GM, 6734 posts
 DM says
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Sat 31 Aug 2019
at 23:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 475):

And for simplicity, folks, we are using bog standard allies from DF 5/9 and customizing them as they level. Of course, if you are at 260 points, your 62 point allies start at 65, your 125 point allies are 130 etc.
Recently, I gave someone's allies a couple of Slayer exclusive perks, based on the D&D logic that natural (or in this case, unnatural) creatures of sufficient HD could affect opponents normally hit only by magic weapons. The idea of the perks was to emulate Buffy doing aggravated damage to vamps with her bare hands. Play a slayer, it is an inborn trait, anyone else, there needs to be a serious plot based circumstance to acquire these and other slayer traits, like Hell Vision and Demon Sniffer, which are sort of "detect" and Aura or Magesight as powers.
Might be posting tomorrow, if not, Monday.

This message was last edited by the GM at 17:52, Sun 01 Sept 2019.

Aldous Hack
 player, 1 post
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Wed 4 Sep 2019
at 23:02
Re: Out of Character 8
"Howdy, folks. Y'know, I'm gettin' almighty tired o' livin' like scum.  Father Robards's bin good, but he's stretched a bit thin, too.  I think it's time I found sumpin' 'at pays better 'n hangin' out wit' a bunch a' gobs that ain't fast enough, big enough, or tough enough to play jugga."
Nana Yurick
 player, 1 post
 Shevnian Barmaid
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 02:15
Re: Out of Character 8
I don't seem to have a proper character sheet yet, like my other PC's have.

This message was undeleted by the player at 02:19, Thu 05 Sept 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6758 posts
 DM says
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Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 14:06
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Nana Yurick (msg # 478):

Corrected. Meanwhile,  I need to map some sub basements to the unnamed inn run by the Yuricks for Adolus and others to investigate,  and stat out more of the yokai that are piling up in Veroigne...
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 5 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 16:01
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 479):

i'll think of a good name for the inn, in the meanwhile...
i have the map of the main floor, but you mentioned it also has an upper floor, too.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:03, Thu 05 Sept 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6759 posts
 DM says
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Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 17:27
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Hetilda Yurick (msg # 480):

An upper floor without exits, although I might add space for a kitchen garden...

Just so the New in Town folks know: matters the Gendarms ignore tend to be matters that the Hadereum ignores. If pressed,  the Gendarmes will be embarrassed and in turn make life difficult, because they are like that.
Anita Drake
 player, 57 posts
 Hey sweetie
 Lets see your money pouch
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 19:59
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 481):

Who pays the Gendarms wages?
Narrator
 GM, 6760 posts
 DM says
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Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 22:10
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Anita Drake (msg # 482):

The taxes collected by the Hadereum. If you go over their heads to the Hadereum,  they will refer you back to a sergeant of the gendarmes because they like to see chain of command followed (they are a beauracracy) and assume the issue was dealt with if no report was filed. Which means, if the watch ignores something, it never happened, unless it inv9lves another reporting agency.

In other words, a thief can't really threaten to call the cops without risking arrest or a beating.

This is why adventurers get hired in town.
Aldous Hack
 player, 2 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Thu 5 Sep 2019
at 22:14
Re: Out of Character 8
"Wages ain't the only way ta pay th' rent, Anita.  They's a few honest cops, but most of 'em take in as much in grift as on tha books."
Leroy du Lac
 player, 89 posts
 Mercenaire gent d'armes
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 01:50
Re: Out of Character 8
hey rosewood! i bet you could easily follow these goons back to their lair, where they will no doubt tell their leader about what happened! If you can make yourself invisible, i bet you could eavesdrop on some crucial information, for the group!
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 6 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 12:00
Re: Out of Character 8
We'll call our place "The Mug & Cauldron"!

This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 12:01, Fri 06 Sept 2019.

Kazimir Yurick
 player, 5 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 12:01
Re: Out of Character 8
I like it, I like it! We'll have a sign made, with a stylized frothing mug and a steaming cauldron, to hang up.

This message was last edited by the player at 12:23, Fri 06 Sept 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6764 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 13:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Kazimir Yurick (msg # 487):

Nice!
Rosewood
 player, 29 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 14:17
Re: Out of Character 8
Leroy du Lac:
hey rosewood! i bet you could easily follow these goons back to their lair, where they will no doubt tell their leader about what happened! If you can make yourself invisible, i bet you could eavesdrop on some crucial information, for the group!


Will do.
I hope the group was enjoying the fun Rosewood had with the thug.
You can expect more thing to be tied up, tied down or untied in the future :)
Anita Drake
 player, 60 posts
 Hey sweetie
 Lets see your money pouch
Fri 6 Sep 2019
at 20:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 489):

It was good to see them get their knickers in a knot about the shoelaces being untied...
Stenet Fjall
 player, 272 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 15/17
Sat 7 Sep 2019
at 12:02
Re: Out of Character 8
The Abandoned Abbey casters all being out of energy is why I like to recommend all casters buy Wands of Lend Energy (2,000$ at Wanda's Whacky Wand Warehouse, just tell her Stenet sent ya!)... they can hand these to their non-caster group members and get topped up faster, especially if looks like it's going to be fight after fight, back to back.
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 923 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Sat 7 Sep 2019
at 14:34
Re: Out of Character 8
I think the intent is for us to have to decide how fast we'll consume paut and what level of side effects from the new blue we're willing to put up with.

Or for casters to have more Energy Reserve, larger (more expensive) Power Items, etc.

Still, good to know that there's a reasonably simple way to spread the fatigue around.  Anyone (including non-mages) can use wands?
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 7 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Sat 7 Sep 2019
at 15:24
Re: Out of Character 8
my guess, is that you'd need to have magery 0, at the least..
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 6 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Sat 7 Sep 2019
at 15:25
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm a bard, and I don't think I can use these wands either.
Narrator
 GM, 6775 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 7 Sep 2019
at 16:52
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Kazimir Yurick (msg # 494):

Nah. Magery 1 or empathy. I haven't seen anyone with that.

I am exhausted.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1687 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Sat 7 Sep 2019
at 22:13
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 495):

Yeah, anyone got one of those wands that works on players?
Rosewood
 player, 30 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Sat 7 Sep 2019
at 22:29
Re: Out of Character 8
Do they come in different sizes?
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1688 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Sat 7 Sep 2019
at 22:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 497):

Lol, quarterstaves for you, Rosewood!
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1764 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sun 8 Sep 2019
at 04:54
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Nah. Magery 1 or empathy. I haven't seen anyone with that.

Hey boss... since when have magic items required the users to have the spell's prereqs in order to use the item to cast the spell?




(Hint:  The answer is never by RAW.)
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1295 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sun 8 Sep 2019
at 11:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth Mooncalled:
Narrator:
Nah. Magery 1 or empathy. I haven't seen anyone with that.

Hey boss... since when have magic items required the users to have the spell's prereqs in order to use the item to cast the spell?




(Hint:  The answer is never by RAW.)


Um.

Magic, p. 19.  If an item has any "mage only" effects on it, only a mage may use the item's powers. (emphasis original)

A wand of Lend Energy confers the ability to cast a spell the user doesn't know, which spell requires either Magery (1 or higher) or the Empathy advantage (though since Northport is generally a normal mana area, one must be a mage to learn the spell anyway).

The "item" entry for the spell doesn't specifically say "mage only", however, which I would interpret to mean anyone who can use an ordinary magic item can use the wand (or ring, or whatever).

I've posted a question over on Stack Exchange for this, since the wording is a little ambiguous...
Narrator
 GM, 6776 posts
 DM says
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Sun 8 Sep 2019
at 19:59
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 499):

Ok. Just answered Ardenas on Stack; DFRPG Magic Items  says any item can be used universally, the prerequisites were involved in the enchantment. The difference is that mages/ clerics add their magery/ power Investiture  bonus to the power level/ skill roll, which at standard pricing, is 15.

Spielgud might have one in his Emporium, but you need $2k to get it, and the energy still comes from the user.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 94 posts
 Mercenaire gent d'armes
Sun 8 Sep 2019
at 20:00
Re: Out of Character 8
Partial Armor
Barbarians are known for wearing scraps of gear that provide a bare minimum of armor coverage and modesty. For
either purpose, the protection is largely symbolic, but it’s
inexpensive and relatively lightweight.
Armor Location DR Cost Weight
Mail Loincloth Groin 4/2* $60 6
Partial Mail Top Torso† 4/2* $75 7
Partial Plate Top Torso† 5 $280 8
† Classically a bikini-style top, but can also represent a midriffbaring partial shirt, a network of armored belts and suspenders,
and other more unisex items that provide partial torso coverage.
On any torso or vitals hit, roll 1d: 1-3 means the location is protected; 4-6 indicates the attack hits an unarmored area, which
gets no DR. Treat intentional targeting as attacking chinks in
armor at half the usual penalty
^
are we using this rule? it's from DF 13 loadouts pg .8
if so, i wanna apply it to some armor customizations.
the increased prices in armor call for greater innovation, and it's good for managing weight/protection. also, some of the armor concepts are cool..
example:
Heavy Mail Harness
$705 16.5 lbs heavy mail breastplate DR 5/3, rear network of chains DR 4/2*
*a network of chains* 1d: 1-3 means the location is protected; 4-6 indicates the attack hits an unarmored area, which
gets no DR. Treat intentional targeting as attacking chinks in
armor at half the usual penalty

This message was last edited by the player at 20:27, Sun 08 Sept 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6780 posts
 DM says
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Sun 8 Sep 2019
at 20:38
Re: Out of Character 8
Aiming for the unarmored portions is the same as trying to hit the face.
Nome of your characters are barbarians.
We have respectable armorers here!
Leroy du Lac
 player, 96 posts
 Mercenaire gent d'armes
Sun 8 Sep 2019
at 20:53
Re: Out of Character 8
true! but, it'd be a good way to create a "breastplate" option, instead of going with the whole cuirass, in matters of both cost and weight. seems like it could be legit for armorers to produce, regularly, isn't it?
Narrator
 GM, 6781 posts
 DM says
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Sun 8 Sep 2019
at 20:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 504):

Not in this town.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 97 posts
 Mercenaire gent d'armes
Sun 8 Sep 2019
at 20:56
Re: Out of Character 8
so, if you got the skill armory (body armor), you could cannibalize from salvaged and scrounged armor, and build your own?
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1765 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Mon 9 Sep 2019
at 02:15
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
Magic, p. 19.  If an item has any "mage only" effects on it, only a mage may use the item's powers. (emphasis original)

I have no idea what this "Stack Exchange" is, or what the answer you got was (I always recommend the GURPS forums at http://forums.sjgames.com/ , as you can get the Line Editor and book authors to answer questions there), but...


The answer is:  "Mage Only" is a descriptor in the "Item" section of a spell's description.  If it says "Usable only by mages" then only mages can cast the spell using the item, there are no other prerequisites (so if it's "mage only" all you need is Magery 0).

Frex:

Lend Energy
Regular
Restores the subject’s lost Fatigue Points, at an energy cost to the caster. Cannot increase the subject’s FP score above its normal maximum.
Cost: Any amount; the energy spent by the caster goes to the subject as restored FP (e.g., if the caster spends 5 energy, the subject regains 5 lost FP).
Casting cost is not reduced by high skill.
Prerequisite: Magery 1 or Empathy (p. B51).

Item
Wand, staff, or jewelry. Energy cost to create: 100.


Regeneration (VH)
Regular
Regrow one lost limb or eye.
Duration: Permanent.
Cost: 20. One try.
Time to cast: 1 minute to cast the spell; 1 month before the process of regeneration is complete. The regenerating part may not be used at all until the month has passed.
Prerequisites: Magery 2 and Restoration.

Item
Wand or staff, decorated in a snake pattern. Usable only by mages. The item must touch the subject. Energy cost to create: 3,000.


(Goldenrodding mine for emphasis)

In this case, a wand, staff, or piece of jewelry of Lend Energy is usable by anyone, but a wand or staff of Regeneration is usable only by mages (and since Mages don't generally get Regeneration in DF, this should be "usable on by Clerics/Holy Warriors").



gwythaint,

Since you're using the Magic Item rules from DFRPG Magic Items, and this has literally never come up before (even on the sjgames forums*) what effect will Magic Resistance have on casting spells from items or scrolls?  If Power Talents add to the casting, I'd recommend that Magic Resistance actually penalize the casting.  But those are my two cents (as probably the only Player with a Character with Magic Resistance...).



* I started a thread:  http://forums.sjgames.com/show...=2283846#post2283846

This message was last edited by the player at 02:18, Mon 09 Sept 2019.

Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1298 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Mon 9 Sep 2019
at 09:13
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth, Stack Exchange is a network of question and answer web sites all built around asking definitively answerable questions (as opposed to those that would invite open-ended lists or opinion), answering them, voting the answers up or down depending on their quality (according to standards that vary a bit across the network), and (optionally, but recommended in most cases) accepting an answer that most effectively answers the question.

In this case, I asked on https://rpg.stackexchange.com/ which is the RPG Stack Exchange.  Most questions there are about D&D 5th Edition, but any RPG is fair game, from Risus and Roll For Shoes  to GURPS and Hero System.

You do have to register to ask or answer, but not to read.
Narrator
 GM, 6783 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 10 Sep 2019
at 17:04
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 507):

If magery provides a bonus, magic resistance will provide a penalty.
It would appear that a number of simplifications were made in DFRPG, for example, there are no blunt tipped broadswords, and thrusting ones cost $600.
Power items we all recognize to be manastones that require someone with a 50 point UB to recharge.
Magic item use has been simplified, with the (NPC) enchanter having to shoulder all of the prerequisites; casting items use the enchantment power of the item, typically 15,  but require the user to provide all of 5he energy. Concievably, a wand or other item could also be a power item, but could still be used with the users fatigue after it was drained of charge.

This message was last edited by the GM at 22:18, Tue 10 Sept 2019.

Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1768 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Wed 11 Sep 2019
at 19:13
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Magic item use has been simplified, with the (NPC) enchanter having to shoulder all of the prerequisites; casting items use the enchantment power of the item, typically 15,  but require the user to provide all of 5he energy. Conceivably, a wand or other item could also be a power item, but could still be used with the users fatigue after it was drained of charge.

Personally I like the way it's been simplified in DFRPG Magic Items*:

Always-On Items, these items are always active - like a Puissant sword; Casting Items, these items allow you to cast the spell and require you to power the spell; and Limited Use Items (Rechargeable and Non-Rechargeable), these allow you to cast the spell but are self powered; One-Offs and Potions; and Artifacts.


Basically DFRP has mostly done away with Self-Powered Spell Casting Items... unless it's an artifact, which means it's literally not for sale.




* By which I mean, the price lists are easy to use, and it nicely tucks the annoying "Self-Powered Spell Casting Items" away from Players grubby mitts, or makes them Limtied Use items which is in flavor for the genre and difficult to price out using basic GURPS Magic.
Narrator
 GM, 6785 posts
 DM says
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Wed 11 Sep 2019
at 19:23
Re: Out of Character 8
The removed enchantment from play, and removed powering except for manastone effectively.  Northport has a few artifacts lurking; one of Flax' treasures was a powerstone cgharging rack. (Now owned by NPC enchanter Spielgud) Power went by the wayside as well, but Spellstone is alive and kicking.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1300 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Wed 11 Sep 2019
at 22:59
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
but Spellstone is alive and kicking.


Or, in a recent case, Banishing...
As Sharak
 NPC, 13 posts
 Cat man covered
 In ice crystals
Thu 12 Sep 2019
at 00:58
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 512):

And Summon demon, too
Mancini
 player, 259 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Fri 13 Sep 2019
at 09:08
Re: Out of Character 8
Hey, evil cat demon, anything you can tell us about your boss?
Aoife
 player, 623 posts
 Leprechaun
 Priestess of Cerrunos
Fri 13 Sep 2019
at 09:17
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mancini (msg # 514):

His boss is a very naughty kitty...
Mancini
 player, 261 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Fri 13 Sep 2019
at 09:20
Re: Out of Character 8
What do you suggest we do about that, Aoife?
Aoife
 player, 624 posts
 Leprechaun
 Priestess of Cerrunos
Fri 13 Sep 2019
at 09:35
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mancini (msg # 516):

Shave him and bath him! Cats dislike both!
Narrator
 GM, 6791 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 13 Sep 2019
at 20:29
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aoife (msg # 517):

Just to keep people in their own threads,
The temple hill crew has further business... on temple hill,
Much as in the same way, jareth and Nodwin and company  are also dealing with demon fighting, as are Mancini and the others who just provided the Hadereum with a wagon full of bodies.
There is a lot going on in Northport,  but some of it is for specific groups.
Narrator
 GM, 6792 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 13 Sep 2019
at 21:03
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 518):

Also, while we hadd a discussion about this sort of thing a ways back (and sorry for keeping the demonic content high for those not fond of it) but this is free, and if wee need to buffer some topics, let me know. We did lose a player who irl had chronic fatigue syndrome because the constant evil runes draing FP was too much, and I was a bit of an asshat a few weeks ago in the way I was describing some villains.



https://www.drivethrurpg.com/p...35/Consent-in-Gaming
Chye Isuel
 player, 1565 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Fri 13 Sep 2019
at 21:22
Re: Out of Character 8
it's all good!
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1692 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Fri 13 Sep 2019
at 22:09
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 520):

Not having any problems here. I get that not everyone shares my point of view, and we all exist here together. Not making excuses for those that deliberately try to be offensive, but I have not seen very much of that here, and those that were offensive were soon...isolated. Most folk here seem pretty mature about it. I have lost one character in my game through similar things, presenting a situation that was challenging (which I like to do), but one character found it offensive and left.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1301 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Fri 13 Sep 2019
at 23:12
Re: Out of Character 8
I'll say this about that: I've got decades of experience in separating the game from life.  I'm very capable of taking offense, face to face, if (for instance) you demonstrate your ignorance and bigotry (and even then, I might not show it publicly); those things as in-game content in the voice of characters don't bother me at all.  I've seen few indications players here (or the GM) are ignorant bigots, and only one (no longer here) who seemed more interested in a form of bullying than in everyone having fun.

One or more of my characters might take offense for completely different things (or some of the same ones) -- a couple are (or were raised) Tripartite, for instance, and might become offended at blasphemy, especially if obviously intended as such (as opposed to common cursing).  Another is trying very hard to fit into his mother's native culture after growing up in Northport, and struggles often not to give offense within that culture.

For myself, I'm hard to offend, hard to shock, and hard to convince that something in-game should affect me out-of-game.  I don't, as far as I know, have any "triggers" that need to be avoided.  I have no trouble, however, staying within any reasonable set of boundaries for how the other players want and need to manage their comfort.
Narrator
 GM, 6794 posts
 DM says
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Sat 14 Sep 2019
at 02:16
Re: Out of Character 8
A classic example that had been iirc in WoD's Wraith, where they cooled the description on spiders for a player who had Arachnophobia. If I was gaming with my wife, there would be zero mention of waterbugs.
Narrator
 GM, 6795 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 14 Sep 2019
at 02:18
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 523):

Be back after the weekend.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1566 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 14 Sep 2019
at 21:57
Re: Out of Character 8
*Cool Ethnic Weapons and Armor* [GURPS Low-Tech Companion 2: Weapons and Warriors pg.16/40]
Thanks to hyperbolic descriptions by travelers, national
pride, and an echo chamber of inflated claims, a region or
culture’s trademark weapons or armor might be held in
special esteem, their reputation for effectiveness outstripping provable fact. The GM may wish to make some such
exaggerations true in his campaign. The simplest method is
to declare certain items fine quality at good-quality prices.
Very fine versions shouldn’t be any cheaper. Good and cheap
specimens ought to be rare – this stuff is cool, after all!
A more detailed approach is to invent “cool ethnic”
modifiers for such gear. These aren’t realistic! They typically apply to a specific class of equipment (e.g., fencing weapons, wavy-bladed swords and knives, or plate
armor) or to one particular item (e.g., katana or lorica
segmentata).
*Cool Ethnic Weapon: The weapon gets +1 to hit and to
damage, and has +1 HT and double HP relative to other
weapons of the same materials and weight. This is cumulative with all other quality, material, and weapon modifiers. The weapon is simply better. Cost is typically
unchanged, but such weapons may be in great demand!
Weight is unaffected.
*Cool Ethnic Armor: The armor gets +1 DR, weighs 20%
less, and has double HP relative to other armor of the same
materials and weight. Moreover, the wearer suffers no
extra fatigue penalties in hot weather. This armor modifier
can “stack” with others. Cost is unchanged.
can we take these as perks? they'd make great signature gear
Narrator
 GM, 6796 posts
 DM says
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Sun 15 Sep 2019
at 00:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 525):

What will happen is that you hear of certain specialty Smith's in ethnic communities.
As it stands, cheap weapons abound amongst goblin Craftsmen, orcish weapons do -1 damage and give reaction-1, and if you were to go to Sahud, you would have a better chance of finding a fine Katana.

Southern Valdassya has heavy chain and plate that fits the bill for this.
Johan Stark
 player, 568 posts
 Human Warrior
 HP: 14/10 FP: 13/12
Sun 15 Sep 2019
at 22:20
Re: Out of Character 8
I have noted that SJ Games has made both SORCERERs and now  INCANTERs very expensive to build, where you have to buy multiple levels of a 10 point advantage and then put quite a few levels of a skill in place as well. Compared to Magery, where 35 points is the Max, these other methods seem to be priced out of utility.
AmI missing something?
I am sorely tempted to alter the costs, making these roughly equal to standard magery at say 8 points a level and just the skill (no levels) to make something usable.  I am no D&D fan, but am quite impressed with the concept of cantrips ... The GM and I created a character using GURPS  that does something similar with about 12-14 low powered spells for a non-mage. A Hedge Mage sort of fellow whose basic craft is something wholly different but which is enhanced by his simple spells.
Narrator
 GM, 6801 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 16 Sep 2019
at 00:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Johan Stark (msg # 527):

These are both versions of spells as powers, much like the magic bolt power. Cantrips might well be the broad list of spells available to those without magery. Magery,(along with power investiture, bardic talent, demonic or elemental attunement, and deathliness) by the way, can be bought to 6 levels, at 60-65 points.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1771 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Mon 16 Sep 2019
at 01:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Johan Stark:
AmI missing something?

Yes.  You're missing that they work nothing like Spells as Skills magic.  One is vastly more immediately potent (but far, far less versatile), the other vastly more versatile (but slower in general to cast).

quote:
I am sorely tempted to alter the costs...

I recommend taking this discussion to the GURPS forums at sjgames (http://forums.sjgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13).  The posters (and GURPS authors and editors) there are far more qualified to answer your questions and give pointers than we are.

I mean the percentage chance you'll get Jason Levine, Christopher Rice, or Antoni Ten Monrós to pop into the thread and answer questions is infinitely greater.




Narrator:
These are both versions of spells as powers...

Incantation is Effects Shaping, it's nothing like Spells as Powers.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1303 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Mon 16 Sep 2019
at 09:24
Re: Out of Character 8
I've been playing in a pair of D&D 5e campaigns recently (when it rains, it pours -- it still averages to one four hour session a week).  Cantrips are just minor spells that may be cast without expending resources (spell slots).  In plain GURPS Magic terms, these are spells where the skill discount (-1 fp cost at 15 skill, -2 at 20) makes the spell "free" to cast.

D&D cantrips used to be spells so trivial as to be mainly RP fodder -- things like "Clean" or "Dancing Lights" -- but in 5e, several fairly serious combat spells are listed as cantrips -- Burning Hands, Shocking Grasp, and Eldritch Blast, for instance -- direct damage dealers that let spellcasters mix it up without messing up the expectation of having limited castings per day (or between short rests for Warlocks).  Damage done is comparable to a blow from a sword or axe, casting time is "one action" so usable in combat, and spellcasters aren't a squishy as they were when I played D&D back in the 1970s and 1980s.

I've only skimmed GURPS Sorcery, haven't read the underlying works (Ritual Magic, Powers) in any detail, and don't really understand the ritual magic system, but at least in the one game I've played that included Powers (when 4th Ed. was new), it seemed very much as if Powers and Magic weren't intended to be used together, because they were poorly balanced against one another.

I like the idea of having multiple magic systems available (I'm a big fan of the Ethshar series by Lawrence Watt-Evans), but I've have to spend considerable time studying the "magic as powers" model before I'd be comfortable mixing them in the same campaign.
Narrator
 GM, 6802 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 16 Sep 2019
at 15:50
Re: Out of Character 8
Thanks for the clarification re: incantation magic. I saw it as an attempt to install Vancian magic, kind of as reflected by Authentic Thaumatology, although I spoke to Christopher R.Rice, and he appeared to have built the system without consulting Bonewitz'book that is available from SJG.

As Ardenas says, any spell that costs 1fp at 15 is effectively a Cantrip, as is the power Magic Bolt, which requires Magery, and otherwise corresponds to Eldritch Bolt.

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:51, Mon 16 Sept 2019.

Johan Stark
 player, 569 posts
 Human Warrior
 HP: 14/10 FP: 13/12
Mon 16 Sep 2019
at 17:52
Re: Out of Character 8
Except that Effective magery skill at 15 is A) expensive and B) not that of a limited magic user, rather it's a powerful user doing small magics.

I was thinking more along the lines of someone with magery 0 doing small things that cost him/her a point or two ... a knack, except not limited to two or three.  There are a fair number of spells that can be executed at magery 0, and if you limit them to mana costs of one or two at most, you get a character who can do simple magic carefully over time.  Mages are unlikely to notice such low powered spells, but the locals will be thrilled it you can  heal their ailing prize apple tree, fix the nasty cut their son got by accident cutting wood and keeping it from getting infected or soothing an agitated Stallion.
These may not make a great character but could make a very useful NPC... or mayhap your Soldier can also do a few useful small tasks like create light, heal small injuries and make a fire or water. Maybe he is a superb hunter, because he understands animals really well.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1304 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Mon 16 Sep 2019
at 21:58
Re: Out of Character 8
Well, let's see.  Magery 0 is 5, right?  Then you need to spend points to get skill to 15; for most spells (IQ Hard) skill is IQ - 2 + Magery.  So at Magery 0, you need either High IQ (expensive, but it boosts all IQ based skills) or to spend points on each spell to IQ+4 (20 points for almost all spells).  If you want more than 3-4 spells, you'd be ahead to bump IQ to 13 or 14 at least (60 points for IQ 14, then spells only need 8 points each to be at 15).

This is part of why you don't see many Magery 0 spellcasters.  Magery is LOTS cheaper than IQ (though it's only useful for magic and a very few related skills).  BTW, the 4e book actually allows Magery as high as level 5, though it notes that's up to your GM (3e had the Magery 3 limit).

Of course, if you don't mind your hedge wizard having to almost go into a dance to cast anything, and take extra time at it if he can, nothing says his base skill needs to be higher than 9 or 10.  He can still put extra points into the things that really need higher skill (and he might well put that 20 points noted above into something he makes his living with, like Purify Water or Mending), but in general, he's a wizard -- but not a very good one (didn't Oz the Great and Powerful say something like that after Dorothy got behind the curtain?).
Johan Stark
 player, 570 posts
 Human Warrior
 HP: 14/10 FP: 13/12
Mon 16 Sep 2019
at 22:26
Re: Out of Character 8
Pretty much...  I understand the costs, although I personally have never built a mage with skill 20. I have run/do run several with skill 15.
But since you to have recent D&D 5e experience, you understand how attractive a few cantrips can be to a rogue or fighter.
My middle son is running a 5e game to appease my wife who sorely misses  our role playing sessions of old.
None of them will consider GURPS of any flavor "It's too complicated", "I'd have to but new books" etc.
Free GURPS Light is dismissed as too limited ;-) ... basically they don't want to have to learn something new.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1773 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 00:15
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
I've only skimmed GURPS Sorcery, haven't read the underlying works (Ritual Magic, Powers) in any detail, and don't really understand the ritual magic system...

RPM (Ritual Path Magic) has nothing to do with Sorcery.

The types of Magic currently in GURPS (TTBOMK):

Spells as Skills:  Vanilla Basic and Magic magic spells.

Spells as Powers:  Sorcery ala GURPS 4th Thaumatology Sorcery, and Chinese Elemental Powers ala GURPS 4th Thaumatology Chinese Elemental Powers.  These are both different, and yet the same.  They are same in that that is magic built using Advantages, different in that Elemental Powers is very much building the powers in themes but not under a singular all encompassing "Power Talent" where Sorcery is all wrapped under the Sorcery Talent.  Also while Elemental Power uses a variant of Alternative Abilities that work differently, Sorcery is all about the AA.

Ritual Magic:  This is further subdivided into two similar, radically different branches; Effects Shaping and Energy Accumulation.  Effects Shaping is the Path/Book system in GURPS 4th Thaumatology and Incantations from GURPS 4th Dungeon Fantasy 19 Incantation Magic.  They are virtually identical, Incantations is just more versatile and has more development.  Energy Accumulation is GURPS 4th Thaumatology Ritual Path Magic, and Jason Levine has since come to lament calling it that as people keep confusing it with Path/Book Ritual magic (which is why people are calling it Path/Book instead of Ritual Path like we used to).  The difference between RPM and Incantation/Path-Book magic are subtle and vast, as are their identical natures... and that's a terrible way to put, but the only simple way.  In a nutshell with RPM you figure out the ritual* and this tells you how much energy it will take to cast, at which point if you have the energy you roll to cast the ritual, otherwise you must accumulate the energy (hence Energy Accumulation).  This can be quick or very time consuming.  With Effect Shaping you figure out the ritual* and this tells you how long it will take to cast, you can adjust this time up or down based on taking skill penalties or bonuses, but that's it.  Both types can precast spells and "hang" them as charms or upon themselves (hence the Vancian feel of Incantation, and I got a very similar feel in a campaign I ran using RPM by making a small change to it's system).


The other types of magic (Alchemy, Runic, Syntactic, etc) are either minor variations of the above or just freeform.


* Which use, yet again, very similar but also different systems.

quote:
...but at least in the one game I've played that included Powers (when 4th Ed. was new), it seemed very much as if Powers and Magic weren't intended to be used together, because they were poorly balanced against one another.

I really hate hearing "poorly balanced"...  It's kind of a meaningless statement.  Are they balanced against one another?  Ehhh... kinda?  They do different things in entirely different ways.  They can work fine together if the campaign takes into effect that the ways each system works is different and doesn't try to just "run" as though one is the right way and then expect the other work just as well.

For instance I ran a campaign using Spells as Powers and RPM, and it worked fine despite those being as far apart flavor and rules-wise as possible.

quote:
I like the idea of having multiple magic systems available (I'm a big fan of the Ethshar series by Lawrence Watt-Evans), but I've have to spend considerable time studying the "magic as powers" model before I'd be comfortable mixing them in the same campaign.

They're already used in this game.  Jocelyn has Magical Bolt which is pure "Spells as Powers". (At least I suspect she has that power).  Now, admittedly, for the most part, this campaign is using Spells as Skills for all casters, but the precedent is set.  And Jareth is slowly buying Psi powers, which are Spells as Powers under a different name and flavor.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1774 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 00:18
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Thanks for the clarification re: incantation magic. I saw it as an attempt to install Vancian magic...

It very much is, but only that it encourages precasting rituals as hung spells or charms (of which you can have only a limited number of) but still allowing for slow (slow for combat anyway) casting of rituals in the field if necessary.
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 434 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 01:51
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 535):

It seems to be magic under a bunch of assumed names ... you have to build "power" instead of Mana... more time allows a safer casting...ooops, power usage.  A Rose is a Rose.  all the additional complexity is of no value or interest.   And Yes, Jocelyn has Magic Bolt.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1696 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 07:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 537):

But at the base level, magic bolt, 1d-3, does nothing half the time, and still expends a fp. The rest of the time it only does maximum 3 points of damage, minus armour, right?
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1775 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 10:42
Re: Out of Character 8
Christine Bjorn:
But at the base level, magic bolt, 1d-3, does nothing half the time, and still expends a fp. The rest of the time it only does maximum 3 points of damage, minus armour, right?

It costs no FP and damage depends on the level you buy it up to.  Max listed damage is 2d-1, though, theoretically Elves could buy it up to 3d-1 (Magery 9).
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1697 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 10:58
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 539):

Costs no fp? That does improve it, though you still need to spend quite a bit of cp to get it to reasonable levels.

Damage   Cost   Prerequisite
1d-3      5     Magery 1
1d-2     10     Magery 2
1d-1     20     Magery 3
1d       25     Magery 4
1d+1     35     Magery 5
2d-1     45     Magery 6

Ok, it ignores DR and insubstantiality and it takes just 1 round but to get any decent damage, you are looking at Magery 3 AND 20 cp. That could be 20 other spells that the average mage could cast at 15+ skill. Hit is automatic...if your Innate Attack (Missile) is 3+. Sounds generous but the real range is rarely going to be more than 70 yds (range penalty -9) for most mages with 12 DX...less if there are other penalties such as light involved.
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 8 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 14:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 540):
I find 10 points to be sufficient for my purposes.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1776 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 21:12
Re: Out of Character 8
Christine Bjorn:
Costs no fp? That does improve it, though you still need to spend quite a bit of cp to get it to reasonable levels.

If you're really canny (and desperate to save points and want it as back up*) you talk the GM into letting you make it an AA of Magery.  This cuts the cost to 1/5th, but means you can't have active† spells and use your Magic Bolt.



* Which by the write up is one of the ways that it's meant to be used "Missile spells are great, but there are times when you can’t cast one because you’re out of energy..."

† By 'active' I mean spells you are concentrating on, as you cannot concentrate on spells and use Magic Bolt at the time.  Technically you also couldn't maintain any spells while you are using your Magic Bolt as an AA, but that's really not likely to come up very often.  Also, as an AA it would take 1 second of Concentration to switch between Magery and Magic Bolt, as per Sorcery, but... that's realy up to the GM whether it's an Alternative Ability or Alternative Attack 'AA'.
Narrator
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Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 22:03
Re: Out of Character 8
Sorry, magic bolt is an add on feature with Magery as a prerequisite.
After Astra Black, I am not going off book with advantages. Yes, there are one or two talents out there that are custom, but I am trying to run things on template here.
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 435 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 22:05
Re: Out of Character 8
And if I recall correctly a 1D-3 means it does one point of damage on a roll of 1-4, 2 points on a 5 and 3 points on a 6. It never does 0 points of damage... GM?
Narrator
 GM, 6805 posts
 DM says
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Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 22:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 544):

Looking it over, it says it Always does damage if it hits, and bypasses DR. That would indicate a minimum damage of 1 rather than 0
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1306 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Tue 17 Sep 2019
at 22:43
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 544):

Looking it over, it says it Always does damage if it hits, and bypasses DR. That would indicate a minimum damage of 1 rather than 0


That's consistent with light weapons wielded by weak characters -- a dagger doing 1d-4 still does a minimum of 1 point before armor on a hit.  It just seldom does more than that.
Darius Kopaki
 player, 167 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Wed 18 Sep 2019
at 20:10
Re: Out of Character 8
Johan Stark:
I have noted that SJ Games has made both SORCERERs and now  INCANTERs very expensive to build, where you have to buy multiple levels of a 10 point advantage and then put quite a few levels of a skill in place as well. Compared to Magery, where 35 points is the Max, these other methods seem to be priced out of utility.
AmI missing something?


Speaking as an Incanter, I do not find them too highly priced: Incantation Gift gives a bonus to each path skill, and with everything (including the unusual background), I've invested 77 points into incantation magic. In exchange, it is (my current experience) quite powerful. You need to pack a field lab to refresh spells (which I'm currently refraining from doing because it might make Darius too powerful), but even so my current setup has more than two dozen spell slots. I'm using them sparingly, since I tend to conserve resources, but these make him quite useful.

So yes - Incanters are less efficient over multiple encounters. But I wouldn't want to give up the flexibility you have.


(And, to my knowledge, you can't duplicate the Seek Treasure spell with Magic)
Johan Stark
 player, 571 posts
 Human Warrior
 HP: 14/10 FP: 13/12
Wed 18 Sep 2019
at 20:56
Re: Out of Character 8
Thank You, that's good to know. I have to admit the whole system seems obtuse and confusing to me, but that may just be my problem in grasping their intent.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1779 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Wed 18 Sep 2019
at 22:23
Re: Out of Character 8
Darius Kopaki:
(And, to my knowledge, you can't duplicate the Seek Treasure spell with Magic)

"Duplicate"?  Maybe not.  "Replicate the results of"?  Yes...  I mean Seek Earth is right there in the Earth College.  Granted that's just seeking a specific precious metal, but it's a close enough analog.  And Seek Magic will point out the nearest magic items...

And I could pretty easily create in GURPS Magic as a GM... let's see, call it a half-priced Divination... reduce casting time to say 5-10 minutes... give it the prereqs of Seek Earth and Seek Magic... /dustsoffhandscallsitday.jpg





Johan Stark:
Thank You, that's good to know. I have to admit the whole system seems obtuse and confusing to me, but that may just be my problem in grasping their intent.

This is why I pointed you at the sjgames forums.  Not only will people answer your questions, the authors of those systems post there and will answer your questions.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1307 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Wed 18 Sep 2019
at 22:42
Re: Out of Character 8
Of course, posting at SJG forums also has a prerequisite -- that of having the time available to take on yet another forum.  A few months ago, I had to give up the Karbal Space Program forum, because there just weren't enough hours in the day to keep up with it along with everything else...
Narrator
 GM, 6811 posts
 DM says
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Wed 18 Sep 2019
at 23:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Darius Kopaki (msg # 547):

While seek earth :gold/silver/copper might have dinged, seek treasure found silks and spices, which can be worth more than gold.
Seek food:spice might have worked, but there isn't much that would find silk.


Back on tomorrow, watching Hades Town with the wife. This better be good!
Narrator
 GM, 6812 posts
 DM says
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Thu 19 Sep 2019
at 20:23
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 551):

Didn't get much posting in, was loading monsters
Narrator
 GM, 6826 posts
 DM says
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Tue 24 Sep 2019
at 21:16
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 552):

Sorry anout the slowed posting, had a commission to clear yesterday, and just spent four hours assembling a desk that came without hardware...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1781 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sun 29 Sep 2019
at 13:10
Re: Out of Character 8
Ditto from me, had a lot of OT the last couple of weeks and my brain has been too tired to formulate articulate responses.  Or, semi-articulate bordering on unintelligible as is sometimes the case with Jareth.

I should be alert and conscious enough to post later tonight.
Narrator
 GM, 6844 posts
 DM says
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Sun 29 Sep 2019
at 19:56
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 554):

I am going to be traveling in a week and a half; before that happens I am piling on OT at work and trying to kill commissions at the same time. My SO is now working from home so my posting rate is going to get threadier.
Narrator
 GM, 6845 posts
 DM says
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Sun 29 Sep 2019
at 20:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 555):

Also, I just came from the NYC Medeival Festival, and the Cosplay was like a GURPS game without parameters. Not just princesses and vikings,  woodnymphs and wizards, Romans, Ronin, and Roundheads, but steampunks, pirates, vampires, elves,satyrs, assassins, kilt wearing hipsters, cultists, friars, Tieflings, Unicorns, leather daddies, bikers, dominatrices,face painters,hawkers, raptor handers, rangers, Star Trek TNG crew, MiB (or Agent Cobra Bubbles from Lilo & Stitch), Naruto ninjas, and of course more fellow pagans than I ever see outing themselves, and, oh, a whole batch of actual nuns. It reminded me of the team I was on in an infinite worlds campaign...

This message was last edited by the GM at 20:53, Tue 01 Oct 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6854 posts
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Tue 1 Oct 2019
at 20:54
Re: Out of Character 8
Back on tomorrow
Narrator
 GM, 6867 posts
 DM says
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Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 19:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 557):

Be back Monday
Reanna Draegan
 player, 411 posts
 Burglar, scout
 Rank 2 Admin badge
Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 22:15
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 558):

Really? Darius the Necromancer is worried about the morality of dealing with thieves?
Grimaldi
 player, 516 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 22:52
Re: Out of Character 8
my sentiments. lol
Darius Kopaki
 player, 169 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Sun 6 Oct 2019
at 20:01
Re: Out of Character 8
Reanna Draegan:
Really? Darius the Necromancer is worried about the morality of dealing with thieves?


Darius would argue that necromancy is morally justified, though.

(I modelled that somewhat after Abydos - wherever he's from, he's used to treating undead as simply an available source of labour. He views the shunning of necromancy as strange; maybe how we'd view people deliberately shunning computers, or medieval people shunning oxen.)
Narrator
 GM, 6868 posts
 DM says
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Mon 7 Oct 2019
at 20:57
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Darius Kopaki (msg # 561):

be travelling tomorrow, will catch up while waiting for my flight.
Narrator
 GM, 6871 posts
 DM says
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Tue 8 Oct 2019
at 14:07
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 562):

To start that 75 point thread I need confirmation about who wants in, and a name for the Inn from the Inkeeper
Fisher 'Porter' Black
 player, 1 post
 Young swordsman
Tue 8 Oct 2019
at 15:14
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm interested in the 75 pt adventure.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 181 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Tue 8 Oct 2019
at 16:06
Re: Out of Character 8
FYI My father is in the hospital.  It's a bit of a one-off situation (we hope), but I'll still be a bit spotty for a bit while we get everything figured out.  I saw that you already did a bit of NPC on one of my characters, thanks for that.
Oly
 player, 1149 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 8 Oct 2019
at 18:24
Re: Out of Character 8
I am interested, of course
Balir Ironhide
 player, 182 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Tue 8 Oct 2019
at 18:55
Re: Out of Character 8
He is taking a mental health break.  Late term cancer + people from his generation frequently did not deal with major traumatic events very well.  In his case he avoided them altogether...until he couldn't.
Oly
 player, 1150 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 8 Oct 2019
at 19:03
Re: Out of Character 8
Yup, Understand all too well. Going through something very similar with my brother, although it isn't cancer at this point.
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 9 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Tue 8 Oct 2019
at 19:11
Re: Out of Character 8
Our tavern is called "The Mug & Cauldron" with a wooden sign picturing a frothing mug and a steaming cauldron.
Aldous Hack
 player, 3 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Tue 8 Oct 2019
at 21:47
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm in on the 75 point thread.
Narrator
 GM, 6874 posts
 DM says
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Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 04:59
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 567):

I hope your dad feels better, and that whatever happens next happens at his pace, painlessly.

I will be opening the tavern thread.


Anyone I haven't set up a character sheet for, let me know.
Rosewood
 player, 33 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 18:04
Re: Out of Character 8
I am still here.  Works been bit nuts.

I post a fairy update tomorrow.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 184 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 18:18
Re: Out of Character 8
He is much better.  Back from the hospital, and we have worked out a better living arrangement for him.  With luck we should be back to "normal" today or tomorrow.
Bechazruhk Burke
 player, 18 posts
 Dirty Hippy
 "Name's Burke"
Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 18:32
Re: Out of Character 8
That's great news Balir.  Glad to hear it.
Oly
 player, 1151 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 20:10
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 573):

If he is a veteran you can get some help through VA ... it does need to be Dr. ordered by some Dr. they accept.
Oly
 player, 1152 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 20:22
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 571):

Thorg would like in too ...
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 12 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Sun 13 Oct 2019
at 14:04
Re: Out of Character 8
I have the spells water to wine, and mature, which enables me to produce both from mere water, and rapidly.
Narrator
 GM, 6895 posts
 DM says
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Sun 13 Oct 2019
at 15:24
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 573):

Good to hear it Balir!
Narrator
 GM, 6911 posts
 DM says
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Wed 16 Oct 2019
at 13:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 578):

Anyone else for Sub-juniors in the Mug and Cauldron?  There are two fighters and a thief over there.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1713 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Thu 17 Oct 2019
at 03:03
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 579):

Not in a position to make up a new sheet...
Oly
 player, 1154 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Thu 17 Oct 2019
at 03:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 580):

I could make you up something if you wanted in , but need some idea of what you'd like.
Narrator
 GM, 6912 posts
 DM says
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Thu 17 Oct 2019
at 19:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Oly (msg # 581):

Any sort of spellcaster from one of my 75 point templates would be fine. Actually, just adding more bodies would work too.
Oly
 player, 1155 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Thu 17 Oct 2019
at 20:28
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 582):

Be glad to do it for him, where do I find your templates?

Found Thornstripe and will mod him...

This message was last edited by the player at 20:41, Thu 17 Oct 2019.

Narrator
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Thu 17 Oct 2019
at 22:20
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Oly (msg # 583):

https://drive.google.com/file/...rj/view?usp=drivesdk
Narrator
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Fri 18 Oct 2019
at 13:00
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 584):

Been going through a lot lately, and I really can't do any posting from home any more. Also my phone is dying, which may interrupt my on the go posting. Please bear with me.
Bechazruhk Burke
 player, 20 posts
 Dirty Hippy
 "Name's Burke"
Fri 18 Oct 2019
at 18:27
Re: Out of Character 8
Thanks for the heads up boss and hope things get better for you.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 191 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Fri 18 Oct 2019
at 23:30
Re: Out of Character 8
Been a very busy couple days.  Trying to get through everything today, and then I'll try and hit things over the weekend too.

Would be open to the 75 point group, but I happen to be carrying a lot of characters at the moment, unsure it would be wise.  Catch me offline boss if you want to discuss.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1329 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sat 19 Oct 2019
at 13:57
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm a little confused -- I thought Oly and certainly Grimaldi were off with Mancini following graffiti clues, not at the market near Temple Hill with me and Aoife?
Grimaldi
 player, 519 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Sat 19 Oct 2019
at 14:06
Re: Out of Character 8
that's what happens when the group gets split up, and one person doesn't post, for a week xD
Oly
 player, 1157 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Sat 19 Oct 2019
at 19:03
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 588):

I think in the end, we all went to the market...  keeps the GM sane, or at least saner ;-)
Grimaldi
 player, 520 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Sat 19 Oct 2019
at 19:25
Re: Out of Character 8
to the market, to the market. jiggety jig!
Narrator
 GM, 6925 posts
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Sat 19 Oct 2019
at 20:12
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 591):

Sorry. One issue might be that the shp would move again after a visit, and you would have to search again.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1330 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sun 20 Oct 2019
at 22:38
Re: Out of Character 8
That makes good sense, and it would probably be more effective if we find the shop after at least attempting to bring Kalima back.
Mancini
 player, 272 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Wed 23 Oct 2019
at 05:00
Re: Out of Character 8
I have not been posting on purpose. If we are on survailance, it would be less distracting if that side wasn't posting until the market part was fairly wrapped up.
Masugatan
 player, 298 posts
 street thug
Wed 23 Oct 2019
at 12:48
Re: Out of Character 8
Is there a bank in town?  And how much could I get for a large, cheap knife?
Narrator
 GM, 6937 posts
 DM says
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Wed 23 Oct 2019
at 23:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Masugatan (msg # 595):

There are a lot of independent merchants that change money, but no real bank. A large cheap knife costs $16, and goes for about $5 used.
Narrator
 GM, 6938 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 23 Oct 2019
at 23:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 596):

Also this QA overtime is killing my available  time.
I will try to post tomorrow, but I am scheduled to work 8n the operating room, and generally  that leaves me unable to post. I may be active in the evening, depending.  Please bear with me.
Oly
 player, 1158 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Thu 24 Oct 2019
at 04:21
Re: Out of Character 8
No Problems...
Narrator
 GM, 6942 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 24 Oct 2019
at 20:09
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Oly (msg # 598):

Things a circle of salt is good for:

https://youtu.be/gkrW2klDBGs
Bechazruhk Burke
 player, 22 posts
 Dirty Hippy
 "Name's Burke"
Fri 25 Oct 2019
at 15:56
Re: Out of Character 8
That's cool.
Narrator
 GM, 6943 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 25 Oct 2019
at 20:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Bechazruhk Burke (msg # 600):

trying to catch up, was writing a long blog post (it has been months and I need to stump for my undead stock art). I am going to need input from the rice runners as well as from those heading out of Al Menir (excepting Gareth; he has had his fill of independent activity).
Chye Isuel
 player, 1577 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 16:31
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 601):
what kinda input you need? feed-back? discuss some ideas?
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 15 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 16:38
Re: Out of Character 8
Last call for Mug & Cauldron... They're about to go down yonder...!
a spearman, a swordsman, and a knife-fighter... hmmm anyone else wanna join us?

This message was last edited by the player at 16:39, Sun 27 Oct 2019.

Chye Isuel
 player, 1578 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 16:50
Re: Out of Character 8
i might tinker with a sub-junior sahudese...

This message was last edited by the player at 17:08, Sun 27 Oct 2019.

Bechazruhk Burke
 player, 23 posts
 Dirty Hippy
 "Name's Burke"
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 17:22
Re: Out of Character 8
Hetilda Yurick:
Last call for Mug & Cauldron... They're about to go down yonder...!
a spearman, a swordsman, and a knife-fighter... hmmm anyone else wanna join us?

Sounds like a bad D&D joke.  A spearman, a swordsman, and a knife-fighter walk into a bar...

Hey boss, what do you need from me or Shroud in the Al Menir thread?
Narrator
 GM, 6955 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 29 Oct 2019
at 01:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Just confirming no one had any further business than food, like purchasing some exposition about their destination from someone on the same side of the mountains, maybe.
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 280 posts
Wed 30 Oct 2019
at 00:49
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm expecting some sort of disadvantage or an outright ban for the awful pun, but otherwise...  I think we're ready to move on.
Narrator
 GM, 6966 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 30 Oct 2019
at 21:40
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 607):

I will let the pun pass, especially given the name of the inn you were staying in, the khan of Abou Mensour
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wi...ee_Ladies_of_Baghdad

Will be back tomorrow, was working on a couple of commissions,

To those of you who celebrate the final harvest, Happy Halloween, and peaceable Samhain. To those who do, and those who do not, have a blessed day!
Iskander
 player, 1684 posts
 Iskander Cambriel Almonte
 Valdassyan Adventurer.
Wed 30 Oct 2019
at 23:25
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 608):
good cultural references though, they don't go unnoticed.
enhances the overall gameworld
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 944 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Thu 31 Oct 2019
at 11:38
Re: Out of Character 8
I agree.  The deep and broad background is what makes this game more than just wandering in the dark and killing things.
Narrator
 GM, 6967 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 31 Oct 2019
at 21:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chou-Zhen Mou (msg # 610):

Of course there is plenty of that too, just not today. Two doctors appointments and digitally cleaning a crowd scene killed my posting time. It didn't hurt that I was also reading the thing my most recent artwork was in,
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/p...ion?term=Pumpkin+spi
Sparky
 player, 2 posts
 Skinny & hungry looking
Thu 31 Oct 2019
at 22:58
Re: Out of Character 8
Looks Interesting ... had I seen it earlier, I might have used it instead.
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 23 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Thu 31 Oct 2019
at 23:20
Re: Out of Character 8
got some air spells, sparky?
Sparky
 player, 5 posts
 Skinny & hungry looking
Thu 31 Oct 2019
at 23:50
Re: Out of Character 8
No, why?  I do more fire spells.
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 24 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Fri 1 Nov 2019
at 00:19
Re: Out of Character 8
i figured it was either lightning, or fire!
Sparky
 player, 6 posts
 Skinny & hungry looking
Fri 1 Nov 2019
at 02:29
Re: Out of Character 8
In our class, Only Wheezy did Flatulence spells ... I think he currently has a job airing out an upscale club.
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 27 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Fri 1 Nov 2019
at 02:49
Re: Out of Character 8
flatulante, go ahead and toot! flatulante, the air you won't pollute! so, when you make a stink, you won't be worried, that it reeeeeeeeks!
it's as if perfume, were blasting out your cheeks!
Sparky
 player, 8 posts
 Skinny & hungry looking
Fri 1 Nov 2019
at 03:16
Re: Out of Character 8
And with a little spark it'll blow your mind....
Aldous Hack
 player, 21 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Fri 1 Nov 2019
at 08:52
Re: Out of Character 8
All I ask is that you not burn down the inn while we're in it.  Though I'm sure the Yuricks would prefer you not burn it down at all...
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 28 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Fri 1 Nov 2019
at 13:48
Re: Out of Character 8
If we lose our livelihood, nobody gets paid!
Sparky
 player, 11 posts
 Skinny & hungry looking
Fri 1 Nov 2019
at 18:33
Re: Out of Character 8
I have no intention of burning down anything.
Narrator
 GM, 6968 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 2 Nov 2019
at 01:39
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Sparky (msg # 621):

Sorry about delays,  was formatting a new phone. Should have some downtime tomorrow to get caught up.
Rosewood
 player, 38 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Sat 2 Nov 2019
at 17:58
Re: Out of Character 8
I will let the others post before I start the pixie mayhem!!!
Narrator
 GM, 6972 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 2 Nov 2019
at 18:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 623):

To the mug and cauldron  crew, as this power level is a lot like Basic -1e D&D, it might not be unwise to build some spares, and work with two each. Sparky is running close to the edge of the possible; usually I would have counted the base 9 ST as 10 pts of disadvantages. That said, consider onboarding extras.
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 30 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Sat 2 Nov 2019
at 18:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Okay
Hetilda Yurick
 player, 17 posts
 "Hetty" Witch & Alewife
Sat 2 Nov 2019
at 19:49
Re: Out of Character 8
it's a real challenge trying to make a magic user at such low levels. they're very inadequate..and that's what we need in the group.
Narrator
 GM, 6976 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 2 Nov 2019
at 20:03
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Hetilda Yurick (msg # 626):

Someone with 1 point in each of the prereqs for sleep, and 2-4 po8nts in that and mass sleep would do well. The point 9f low level play is teamwork
Chye Isuel
 player, 1582 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 2 Nov 2019
at 20:22
Re: Out of Character 8
I accept the challenge!
Aldous Hack
 player, 23 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Sat 2 Nov 2019
at 23:13
Re: Out of Character 8
Won't be quick, but I should be able to put together a backup by next weekend.  Takes longer to be sure I'm on template than to make up a low-point character.
Berry
 player, 139 posts
 Mage
Sun 3 Nov 2019
at 02:13
Re: Out of Character 8
quote:
The adept is surprised to see Berry do something other than breathe and eat,
Heh, she literally has the laziness disadvantage!
Narrator
 GM, 6977 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 3 Nov 2019
at 22:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 628):

Chye knocked together a couple good off template ones, although we had difference of opinion about some disads.
Aldous Hack
 player, 25 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Mon 4 Nov 2019
at 09:52
Re: Out of Character 8
Need a PM answered to know if my concept is viable.
Narrator
 GM, 6978 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 4 Nov 2019
at 21:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aldous Hack (msg # 632):

Getting that much water in would be hard. Trying to burn 5he rats with buckets of water to quench the floor might work. From what you were able to see, the basement had wooden floors.  Tossing the occassional torch won't  ignite wood covered in ratshit.
Narrator
 GM, 6979 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 4 Nov 2019
at 21:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 633):

Light, fight, retreat, repeat works too.
Thorg
 player, 21 posts
Mon 4 Nov 2019
at 22:46
Re: Out of Character 8

This message was deleted by the player at 22:53, Mon 04 Nov 2019.

Aldous Hack
 player, 26 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Mon 4 Nov 2019
at 23:18
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
In reply to Aldous Hack (msg # 632):Tossing the occassional torch won't  ignite wood covered in ratshit.


No, though straw or rushes on the floor (common flea control at this tech level) would change that result spectacularly.  Actual wood in structural sizes is quite hard to ignite with a torch, even intentionally.
Narrator
 GM, 6980 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 00:55
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aldous Hack (msg # 636):

Even alchemical fire will just lead to something you can stamp out on wood that thick, although it m8ght be a little charred.
Explosive fireballs might be out, but regular ones mostly amount to being torches.
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 946 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 09:49
Re: Out of Character 8
Fireballs, however, are single-target; may as well pot shot them with bows or crossbows.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1798 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 11:27
Re: Out of Character 8
This is where going back to the basics is handy, Create Fire.  At 1d you should be able to roast the rats and then end it before the floor can be more than 'lightly scorched'.
Sparky
 player, 14 posts
 Skinny & hungry looking
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 15:22
Re: Out of Character 8
Rats move more quickly than fires, but flame jet should do enough damage to get rid of a few.
Kazimir Yurick
 player, 34 posts
 Skald & Innkeeper
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 15:45
Re: Out of Character 8
a cauldron of boiling water, thrown down the stairs oughta fix 'em....

This message was last edited by the player at 15:45, Tue 05 Nov 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6982 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 17:31
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Kazimir Yurick (msg # 641):

And again, mass sleep is the big winner
Sparky
 player, 17 posts
 Skinny & hungry looking
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 18:03
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 642):

So where does a poor, hungry, broke journeyman mage go to learn such? ;-)


[Private to GM: Actually if we use $1,000 as starting money, he should have around $335 left... although he'd not be scrounging for jobs if he had that much. I'll gladly assume it's been used up as he has gone looking for work. ]
Omar El Nasib
 player, 8 posts
 Former Caravan guard
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 18:37
Re: Out of Character 8
For the Al Menir thread, could you provide a bit of guidance on the finer politics?  A bit of light reading told me that a man should not be treating a woman with dishonor like this, according to the Bedouin codes.  However, I'm not sure how much of that is accurate and appropriate to the setting you have created.  Could you provide some insight so the character's Code of Honor can be accurately portrayed?
Narrator
 GM, 6984 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 19:17
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Omar El Nasib (msg # 644):

This guy seems to be running on a variant of the code coupled with overconfidence and either the chauvinism quirk or full on intolerance. He is very much the sort who would have joined Bokor Haram, or the kind of Taliban member who would shoot someone for trimming their beard, being morevtraditionalist and self righteous than someone actually devout.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1336 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Tue 5 Nov 2019
at 23:44
Re: Out of Character 8
Sparky:
In reply to Narrator (msg # 642):

So where does a poor, hungry, broke journeyman mage go to learn such? ;-)



Most folks who want to learn spells go to the Guild and see Spielgud -- but "broke" makes that a problem...
Sparky
 player, 19 posts
 Skinny & hungry looking
Wed 6 Nov 2019
at 03:10
Re: Out of Character 8
LoL... yes it does ...
Chye Isuel
 player, 1584 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 6 Nov 2019
at 10:46
Re: Out of Character 8
Genojo will show those rats, where's "woldo"!
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OGC...biqd58M3a4gKlP%2fIKg

This message was last edited by the player at 10:59, Wed 06 Nov 2019.

Berry
 player, 142 posts
 Mage
Wed 6 Nov 2019
at 13:16
Re: Out of Character 8
Sparky:
In reply to Narrator (msg # 642):

So where does a poor, hungry, broke journeyman mage go to learn such? ;-)

You could ask Berry to ask her mentor to help teach you spells.
Grimaldi
 player, 525 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Wed 6 Nov 2019
at 13:57
Re: Out of Character 8
did berry sell her soul, for rock & roll?
Rethus
 NPC, 12 posts
 Handsome stranger
Wed 6 Nov 2019
at 21:30
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 650):

"We find that Hell is a purely voluntary organization, and that those who wish easily acquired power will find their way to us more rapidly through simple use of said power than by formal contract. That aside, perhaps you would like to enter a less than casual arrangement?"

This message was last edited by the player at 21:31, Wed 06 Nov 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6986 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 6 Nov 2019
at 21:37
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rethus (msg # 651):
<rant>
Work was a bear today. 11 fluoro cases make a full day, today I had 17, and the bosses bought everyone lunch for tech week, but the food was gone by the time I got to it.

(It is, of course Rad tech week, because on November 8, 1895, Willhem von Roentgen plugged a Crooke's tube in backwards because he didn't  bother to read the manual, and ended up discovering Xray when stray shit in his lab started to fluorece.)



All first world problems, of course, but a pain in the ass just the same</rant>

This message was last edited by the GM at 22:46, Wed 06 Nov 2019.

Berry
 player, 144 posts
 Mage
Thu 7 Nov 2019
at 01:47
Re: Out of Character 8
Berry has a formal arrangement because she doesn't trust anyone who won't set terms for the afterlife.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1800 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Thu 7 Nov 2019
at 11:43
Re: Out of Character 8
Grimaldi:
did berry sell her soul, for rock & roll?

Jareth sold his rock & roll for knowledge...  so that's a thing.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1585 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 7 Nov 2019
at 17:52
Re: Out of Character 8
when your body grows bigger *your mind grows flowers!* it's fun to learn! *cos knowledge is power!* we're schoolhouse rockin'! *a chip off the block!* we're schoolhouse rockin', with schoolhouse rock!!
Rosewood
 player, 39 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Fri 8 Nov 2019
at 02:13
Re: Out of Character 8
Hi everybody.

The GM has given me permission for this post.  I ask first.

I am in another Gurps game.  It been running for a while but we lost few players along the way.  Only two left at the moment but game allows for any size party.

The game is your a computer gamer from our world been ported into Skyrim (so like tron if that means anything).  Someone messing with gaming codes and possible to move into other games.

So it magic, swords Skyrim and you can sort play yourself or anybody you like from this world.

Link below.
link to another game
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1337 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Fri 8 Nov 2019
at 09:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Sounds like a concept that could be either very good or quite bad, depending on the players and GM.

As it stands, though, I'm already playing four characters in Northport and building another; in two local D&D5 games, doing amateur radio stuff, and playing Kerbal Space Program in the gaps.  Which is to say, sleep is the next thing to shave time from, and I can't shave any time from sleep or my hour drive each way to work could get very bad.
Narrator
 GM, 6991 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 8 Nov 2019
at 14:39
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 656):

Just asking, what is the point rang? Most of us have built ourselves in the Stat yourself thread... and you are welcome to do so as well.
Narrator
 GM, 6993 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 8 Nov 2019
at 14:49
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 658):

Also, in this town, don't  call the cops. They aren't  nice.

A large amount of low impact critters can be fought in stages, by people with normal weapons, while magic helps, people do get along without it. Don't  overthink
Ryojin
 player, 16 posts
 Martial artist
Fri 8 Nov 2019
at 15:59
Re: Out of Character 8
I am posting! :D
Narrator
 GM, 7001 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 9 Nov 2019
at 15:03
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ryojin (msg # 660):

Probably back on Monday.
Ryojin
 player, 19 posts
 Martial artist
Mon 11 Nov 2019
at 10:18
Re: Out of Character 8
Will post later, got to walk this parade.
Narrator
 GM, 7004 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 12 Nov 2019
at 00:05
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ryojin (msg # 662):

Thank you for your service, Dre!
Narrator
 GM, 7010 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 12 Nov 2019
at 01:41
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 663):

Never ask an elder thing to explain something it finds to be weird
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 946 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Tue 12 Nov 2019
at 09:56
Re: Out of Character 8
I've got, what, two days experience in this?  He talks in riddles, and not the kind the Brothers used to use that made sense if you came at them the right way.  "Enrobed in ectoplasm" indeed...
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 470 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Tue 12 Nov 2019
at 18:44
Re: Out of Character 8
I see your infernal telepathic mind images, and raise you with broad-minded.
Narrator
 GM, 7011 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 12 Nov 2019
at 19:48
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 665):

The literal summoning of an elder aspected servitor involves a number of requisites, and the physical body of the spiritual construct is created out of fatigue spent by the summoning circle.

He speaks in technical and accented Thaumatology, from an engineer's perspective, not that of an end user.

http://www.warehouse23.com/pro...-43-thaumatology-iii
Chye Isuel
 player, 1588 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 12 Nov 2019
at 20:17
Re: Out of Character 8

ooc: karate punch to the vitals imbued with small Piercing strike. Success on imbue, critical success on attack! Double shock penalty.

8 damage before any DR, 24 injury total if he fails a defense -4 roll.

I did not mean to kill him if he dies lol.

Nanto Sei Ken!
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 949 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Tue 12 Nov 2019
at 23:59
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 665):

The literal summoning of an elder aspected servitor involves a number of requisites, and the physical body of the spiritual construct is created out of fatigue spent by the summoning circle.

He speaks in technical and accented Thaumatology, from an engineer's perspective, not that of an end user.


The player had the advantage of having seen the described events (from another character perspective) and having the vocabulary to follow the language used.  Mario, not so much.  Good thing he's young.  Been a long time since an all-out run of seven minutes was within my own abilities...
Narrator
 GM, 7014 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 13 Nov 2019
at 21:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 669):

back on tomorrow
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 285 posts
Wed 13 Nov 2019
at 22:36
Re: Out of Character 8
Things could get really ugly in Al Menir.  Very fast.  You might have made a few enemies there Ryojin.  Could be we need to leave fast.

Plus, there is the potential question of how to handle a murder done in the public square with everyone in town watching.  I'm not exactly sure how Haveron or the rest of the group will react.

Except Gareth.  He probably won't care much.

[Private to GM: Will Omar in particular be offended by this?]
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 950 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Wed 13 Nov 2019
at 23:43
Re: Out of Character 8
Might depend very much on what the witnesses "saw" -- but given you're foreigners and the mook was acting more or less within his cultural ways, things could get a little dicey, at least for Ryojin...
Ryojin
 player, 21 posts
 Martial artist
Thu 14 Nov 2019
at 00:53
Re: Out of Character 8
He walked into that fist! XD
Amelia Montaigne
 player, 59 posts
 Agent about town
Thu 14 Nov 2019
at 01:02
Re: Out of Character 8
Um, hello buddy.  You stunned him.  He stood there like a blathering idiot while you went all "Temple of Doom" on his chest.
Ryojin
 player, 22 posts
 Martial artist
Thu 14 Nov 2019
at 02:05
Re: Out of Character 8
To the on lookers, all that happened was he came at me with a knife, I screamed, then punched him in the chest. He is totally faking it. :D
Berry
 player, 147 posts
 Mage
Thu 14 Nov 2019
at 04:34
Re: Out of Character 8
Berry generally approves. Score one for team evil!
Mancini
 player, 276 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Thu 14 Nov 2019
at 16:34
Re: Out of Character 8
Team Evil just got a setback. Welcome back, Kalima.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1804 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Thu 14 Nov 2019
at 19:17
Re: Out of Character 8
Mancini:
Team Evil just got a setback. Welcome back, Kalima.

Now you just need some high priest chanting "Kali maa shakti de" over and over again...
Mancini
 player, 278 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Thu 14 Nov 2019
at 20:43
Re: Out of Character 8
I shall shout that phrase from the rooftops ad nauseum if it means Kalima stays. We don't need rif Raff from the demon shop on Guild territory.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1342 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Thu 14 Nov 2019
at 22:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth Mooncalled:
Mancini:
Team Evil just got a setback. Welcome back, Kalima.

Now you just need some high priest chanting "Kali maa shakti de" over and over again...


Wasn't his name...  ...Molaram?  Or am I misremembering the movie?
either way, we actually got her, the ones in the movie didn't.
Grimaldi
 player, 531 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Fri 15 Nov 2019
at 00:21
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 678):

the victim looked like he took a wrong turn at a luau.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1805 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 15 Nov 2019
at 00:35
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
Wasn't his name...  ...Molaram?  Or am I misremembering the movie?
either way, we actually got her, the ones in the movie didn't.

Excellent memory, Mola Ram was indeed his name.
Molaram
 NPC, 13 posts
 Obscure priest
Fri 15 Nov 2019
at 03:33
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 682):

Indeed! I was waiting for someone to catch the reference!

This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 03:33, Fri 15 Nov 2019.

Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1343 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Fri 15 Nov 2019
at 09:50
Re: Out of Character 8
The first three Indiana Jones movies are on my all time favorites list.  Wasn't as impressed with Crystal Skulls.

As for our local Molaram and his Thuggee group, we seem to be on the same side...
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 952 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Fri 15 Nov 2019
at 23:43
Re: Out of Character 8
Seems to me some of the older Brothers at the orphanage remembered the days of the most recent Plague, some forty years ago.
Grimaldi
 player, 532 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Fri 15 Nov 2019
at 23:47
Re: Out of Character 8
looks like those on the road to veroigne are dealing with ghosts, stuck in the past, during the plague times.
Aethul
 player, 104 posts
 Shevnian Ranger
Fri 15 Nov 2019
at 23:48
Re: Out of Character 8
But Aethul has only heard talk ... 40 years ago is like an eon to a young man.
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 953 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Sat 16 Nov 2019
at 14:24
Re: Out of Character 8
Aethul:
40 years ago is like an eon to a young man.


True enough.  It was that way for me (the player), a mere forty years ago.
Grimaldi
 player, 535 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Sat 16 Nov 2019
at 20:35
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ryojin (msg # 365):

Gareth back further away toward Berry. This was starting to look like a problem. Then he has an idea.

"Maybe I can revive him? Should I try?"
"revive", indeed!... he he he"
Narrator
 GM, 7028 posts
 DM says
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Sat 16 Nov 2019
at 21:18
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 689):

Hostile creatures react at -5, so even a good roll barely gets you a negative neutral response...


Anyone with Sahudese cultural familiarity can make a basic 1Q-4 roll regarding spirits
Gareth
 player, 509 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Sat 16 Nov 2019
at 23:58
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 689):

I am glad somebody pick up on the potential issues of letting the necromancer revive a dead guy, Grimaldi!!!
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 955 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 11:43
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 689):Anyone with Sahudese cultural familiarity can make a basic 1Q-4 roll regarding spirits


Might have mentioned that my mother didn't want me to be culturally Sahudese in Northport...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1808 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 12:48
Re: Out of Character 8
Chou-Zhen Mou:
Might have mentioned that my mother didn't want me to be culturally Sahudese in Northport...

Your mother was a shrewd woman, no one wants to be culturally anything in Northport....
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 288 posts
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 19:08
Re: Out of Character 8
Going to need a bit of help, here, I think.

Does Haveron know that Gareth is a necromancer?  He has seen plenty of fire, but I don't recall reading anything about his necromantic spells in the back history.  If he doesn't know, he might think that Gareth really can bring the man back.  That of course would make the situation about a million times better, which I know as a player.  Haveron might not know the difference as he is not at all experienced with magic.  Trying to make an accurate judgement on what he might or might not know in character here.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1591 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 19:22
Re: Out of Character 8
i actually started with aegis's accent, when i controlled him. it was up to who inherited him, if they wanted to continue with it. it's cool to see they did, cos personally i think it suits aegis.
Aegis
 player, 259 posts
 Veteran Mercenary
 Master-at-Arms
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 19:27
Re: Out of Character 8
I have been playing him as mildly drunk and slipping into bad language whenever he's past a certain threshold of drink.  I have forgotten once or twice, but overall have been pretty consistent with it.  It's a nice quirk to the character.  Don't usually play the more evil characters (or morally gray...), but I know where he's coming from so it's working out OK.
Ryojin
 player, 24 posts
 Martial artist
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 19:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 694):


I am waiting on others (Haveron) to respond first to what happened before fighting everyone in the town lol.
Iskander
 player, 1695 posts
 Iskander Cambriel Almonte
 Valdassyan Adventurer.
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 19:49
Re: Out of Character 8
i would suggest fleeing, while you can. maybe the woman you rescued can hide you, until nightfall.... if you can all manage to get away in the confusion of the mob, that is..
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 289 posts
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 20:05
Re: Out of Character 8
That is Haveron's intention in the moment.  Just hoping for a bit of guidance.  If none is forthcoming he will react a bit later.
Narrator
 GM, 7032 posts
 DM says
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Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 20:15
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 699):

There is a general understanding that mages cannot heal unless blessed by the good gods.

I appreciate seeing Aegis carouse, but he is one who goes through the stages of being friendly, and then wanting to fight,  and when he fights, he kills.
Ryojin
 player, 25 posts
 Martial artist
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 20:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Also waiting for Omar to respond.
Narrator
 GM, 7034 posts
 DM says
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Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 20:37
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ryojin (msg # 701):

Omar and Haveron have the same player
Amelia Montaigne
 player, 61 posts
 Agent about town
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 23:27
Re: Out of Character 8
HEY zombie-for-brains!  You forgot me!!!  Say you're sorry.
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 291 posts
Sun 17 Nov 2019
at 23:28
Re: Out of Character 8
Posts are up.  Instead of overthinking it I decided Haveron would fall back to an instinctive command role and take charge of things.
Narrator
 GM, 7038 posts
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Mon 18 Nov 2019
at 23:12
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Amelia Montaigne (msg # 703):

Rojyin was saying he was waiting to seebif Omar drew steel. Sadly, he had not considered you.
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 293 posts
Tue 19 Nov 2019
at 17:29
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm not sure what you mean by "then have at you".  Is he lunging at me?  River dancing?  Macarena?  Perhaps just some light menacing?  Curious here.  :D
Narrator
 GM, 7042 posts
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Tue 19 Nov 2019
at 22:23
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 706):

Advancing with blade drawn, inviting you to do likewise
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1811 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 19 Nov 2019
at 23:00
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Adjust her as follows:
native language: native, spoken :native written: broken 0/-2
                         Aralaise: spoken only, accented (2/0)
                        Cultural familiarity, barbarian 0
                         Lose one of her alchohol quirks for Shameless

So... are we no longer using the rules in DF and DFRPG, which means no Cultural Familiarity, or are you 'amending the agreement further' Vader?

This message was last edited by the player at 23:01, Tue 19 Nov 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 7045 posts
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Wed 20 Nov 2019
at 16:00
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 708):

I was using cultural familiarity for Valdassya vs Aral, and Sahud. Since only those three cultures are proximate, and sufficiently  different, it does make a bit of sense to have the distinction; I  have a lot of conceptual remnants from Tredroy and generic 4e. NM that for tge Barbarian, it is baked in to the other disads.

I wonder if anyone trying to belong to a people who have Social Stigma: savage should need to learn their culture...
Narrator
 GM, 7047 posts
 DM says
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Wed 20 Nov 2019
at 16:21
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 709):

Folks can migrate between groups, especially  if there are moral discrepancies between them.
Aegis
 player, 260 posts
 Veteran Mercenary
 Master-at-Arms
Wed 20 Nov 2019
at 23:49
Re: Out of Character 8
Whatdya mean?  Everyone wants me on their team???

Beeeeeelch

I bet that dirty druid type would love me.
Goran the Marked
 player, 191 posts
 Priest of Hors
Wed 20 Nov 2019
at 23:50
Re: Out of Character 8
Seriously.  Why must you put me with these heathens?  They know about as much religion as the bouda.

Yes, I really do mean that.  Only my religion matters.
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 956 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Wed 20 Nov 2019
at 23:53
Re: Out of Character 8
Looks like things are getting hot in Al Menir...
Mbarz Bialsiyf
 NPC, 6 posts
 Valdassyan Swordsman
Thu 21 Nov 2019
at 16:22
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 713):

https://tenor.com/1S2O.gif
Narrator
 GM, 7052 posts
 DM says
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Fri 22 Nov 2019
at 20:49
Re: Out of Character 8
Might not be posting until Monday.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1812 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sat 23 Nov 2019
at 05:13
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
I was using cultural familiarity for Valdassya vs Aral, and Sahud. Since only those three cultures are proximate, and sufficiently  different, it does make a bit of sense to have the distinction; I  have a lot of conceptual remnants from Tredroy and generic 4e. NM that for tge Barbarian, it is baked in to the other disads.

I wonder if anyone trying to belong to a people who have Social Stigma: savage should need to learn their culture...

Either you didn't catch the drift I was aiming at or you ignored it...

If you're requiring something that's not in DF or DFRPG (in this case Cultural Familiarity) you should call this out in your house rule.  This way a) we all know about it, 2) if someone is making a new character that should have it, they can make sure they take it, and ∞) it's less likely to change mid adventure on someone.

In this case you might want to specify what Cultures and Languages you are primarily using in your House Rules thread.

You also might want to call out that Social skills are more valuable than DF or DFRPG make them out to be and that town isn't being handwaved away (I mean a whole group bailed over that one)...

This message was last edited by the player at 05:14, Sat 23 Nov 2019.

Narrator
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Mon 25 Nov 2019
at 21:26
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 716):

Added some things to house rules
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1813 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Mon 25 Nov 2019
at 23:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Added some things to house rules

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Narrator
 GM, 7064 posts
 DM says
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Tue 26 Nov 2019
at 15:39
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 718):

The Back in Town crew from the Stalking Balar/Balar's hoard threads may be looking for 125-250 pt characters to bulk them up, looking for ahem, morally ambivalent characters, probably needing utility mages and possibly a cleric or a bucket of healing potions.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1595 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 26 Nov 2019
at 17:19
Re: Out of Character 8
sounds like a job for a guy i know, named yamamoto kunio. he's a mercenary ninja!
Narrator
 GM, 7066 posts
 DM says
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Tue 26 Nov 2019
at 20:34
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 720):

Ahem, I may have a template to help you include what is expected for a ninja. Magic resistance might also be a plus...Ymmv.

If I don't catch up this week, I  will try to next week; there is a lot of running around I am doing. To those stateside, Have a happy Thanksgiving,  to all, I am thankful for you.
Grimaldi
 player, 540 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Tue 26 Nov 2019
at 21:38
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 721):
I think Alastor Pouviours would be a better choice, than Kunio... I'd forgotten about him!
Chye Isuel
 player, 1596 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 26 Nov 2019
at 21:44
Re: Out of Character 8
There's also Mikogami Honorable Son of Heaven... but he's a goody-two-shoes, like me.
Narrator
 GM, 7069 posts
 DM says
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Wed 27 Nov 2019
at 16:28
Re: Out of Character 8
Not sure why rice run slowed down,  was waiting on several people's next move.
Narrator
 GM, 7071 posts
 DM says
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Wed 27 Nov 2019
at 16:40
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 724):

Also fyi, final rest has a very long casting time and a high fp cost. It is essentially  a full funeral service, not a good means of confronting a near foe, only a sleeping one that has been killed.
Ales Konstantin
 player, 785 posts
 Spellsword
Wed 27 Nov 2019
at 18:24
Re: Out of Character 8
On it boss.

Edit: Islander fixed his post and I am waiting for you to let us know the results of his actions before describing what actions I take in response.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:32, Wed 27 Nov 2019.

Chye Isuel
 player, 1597 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 27 Nov 2019
at 20:48
Re: Out of Character 8
Chye went about talking to the shaman about his encounter, and made grave offerings to the ghost-lady. so, any further actions from me are also suspended until others do something.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1601 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 28 Nov 2019
at 11:28
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Masugatan (msg # 42): (back in town thread)
OOC: for average starting wealth is $1,000 and cost of living is $150
Narrator
 GM, 7079 posts
 DM says
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Thu 28 Nov 2019
at 13:35
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 728):

Cost of living includes a room, board, and generic support services like laundry, housekeeping, repairs and maintenance to gear.
If you have property, the portion that would extend to rent is applied to general upkeep of the place.
Being miserly or extravagant alters costs by +/- 10%, and compulsive carousing does also, but yields  rumors

This message was last edited by the GM at 17:38, Sun 01 Dec 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 7089 posts
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Sun 1 Dec 2019
at 17:37
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 729):

Updated the shopping in street collapse.  Roll and move on.
Narrator
 GM, 7090 posts
 DM says
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Tue 3 Dec 2019
at 23:05
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 730):

Back on tomorrow
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 302 posts
Wed 4 Dec 2019
at 16:26
Re: Out of Character 8
I'll take guidance or suggestions on the Near Al Menir thread...  Having someone out themselves as a Necromancer would be a horrible and fear-provoking thing, in my opinion.  That's how I think a character would react.  However, I want to make sure it's appropriate to the setting, and on that point I'm not 100% sure.  An suggestions on whether the world we are playing in supports this reaction would be appreciated.
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 303 posts
Wed 4 Dec 2019
at 22:14
Re: Out of Character 8
A+ for stirring the pot boss.  I'll just be over here, grumbling to myself...
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1351 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Wed 4 Dec 2019
at 23:47
Re: Out of Character 8
Necromancer is an openly practiced and accepted (if not particularly well thought of) profession in Northport -- rather like bill collectors or personal injury lawyers in our society.  You'd probably not choose one as a friend, but when you need one, there is no substitute -- and if a friend becomes one, you aren't likely to end the relationship over it (as opposed to, say, becoming a hit man).
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 304 posts
Thu 5 Dec 2019
at 00:47
Re: Out of Character 8
Thank you Ardenas.  I am newish to the setting so the finer points are yet to really come for me.  Sounds like I was in the ballpark on my reaction.  Good.  Much appreciate the guidance on stuff like this.  Just want to make sure the characters are as true as possible to the way they are written.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1817 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Thu 5 Dec 2019
at 00:50
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
Necromancer is an openly practiced and accepted (if not particularly well thought of) profession in Northport -- rather like bill collectors or personal injury lawyers in our society.  You'd probably not choose one as a friend, but when you need one, there is no substitute -- and if a friend becomes one, you aren't likely to end the relationship over it (as opposed to, say, becoming a hit man).

Further to complicate things, the prevailing religion, The Hadereum, considers it an aberration ('the soul suffers the bodies desecrations' in their belief) but practice it on serious crime offenders ("you will serve your time, not even death can alleviate your sentence").
Grimaldi
 player, 548 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Thu 5 Dec 2019
at 00:53
Re: Out of Character 8
Cheerless, grey, and grim.. like Hades, himself.
Narrator
 GM, 7099 posts
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Thu 5 Dec 2019
at 21:00
Re: Out of Character 8
This post was misplaced...

In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 732):

Not all necromancers have a bad rep. Some do, and are even cursed by the gods, but there are plenty who are licensed deadworkers, who hold seances, turn undead, or raise servants for the unpaid workforce. In Al Menir, the practice is illegal, in Morthport, it is a civic program.

Generally creepy, the profession does claim to be environmentally helpful, as they Reuse, Recycle, and Reanimate, but in practice, extensive activity will distort the natural energies of a place to become necromantically aspected. YMMV.
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 305 posts
Thu 5 Dec 2019
at 21:10
Re: Out of Character 8
That is...fantastic.  I chortled to myself.  You may pull your tongue out of your cheek now.  :)
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 306 posts
Thu 5 Dec 2019
at 21:12
Re: Out of Character 8
Oh, and I'm waiting for the Adept in particular to respond in the Al Menir thread, but also Ryujin too.  Good RP opportunity, plus it would be something the group is likely to discuss rather than holding back opinions.
Rosewood
 player, 47 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Thu 5 Dec 2019
at 21:50
Re: Out of Character 8
OK I have just been one very clear or one very stupid pixie.

What ever happens I think all Hell's going to break lose and sorry if goes wrong my group.
Purist
 NPC, 7 posts
 Radical racist
Sat 7 Dec 2019
at 05:38
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 741):

Too late!


Also, be back Monday
Leroy du Lac
 player, 130 posts
 Mercenaire gent d'armes
Sat 7 Dec 2019
at 18:31
Re: Out of Character 8
looks like we'll have to make a break for the guild, and fast! at least we got ourselves some information on the leader's name, and she has an odd shadow....
Narrator
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Mon 9 Dec 2019
at 15:06
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 743):

Posted a note about formatting character sheets in the posting conventions notice
Narrator
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Thu 12 Dec 2019
at 17:07
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 744):

It just helps me catch things when using my phone; i normally have to enlarge the screen until I can only read a handful of lines, and when the racial templates get broken down and alphabetized like the apps do, it gets confusing for me.  I appreciate it.
Rosewood
 player, 51 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Thu 12 Dec 2019
at 17:12
Re: Out of Character 8
Leroy du Lac:
looks like we'll have to make a break for the guild, and fast! at least we got ourselves some information on the leader's name, and she has an odd shadow....

If Rosewood get out then we have found out loads and it very important.
Narrator
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Thu 12 Dec 2019
at 17:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 746):

This is true....

Of course someone needs to keep the door open for the pixie....


Folks, my whole issue with the 75 point builds was that an MU had magery 1 and 20 points of other advantages, so I am having a hard time seeing how you can add a race for 20 and still have 3nough points to get a high level of magery. I apso need to expand other race as class templates for that point range...


Edit: I can see that if you relied on the racial stats and removed the "class" template attribute adjustments and used those points for advantages and spells, you could pull something. I am going to try my hand at some more race as class 75pointers, going for half elf, half orc, halfling and leprechaun. I tried a 75pt halfling who had great aim, yet could do zero damage (1d-4 or -5 with a bow).

This message was last edited by the GM at 20:36, Thu 12 Dec 2019.

Leroy du Lac
 player, 132 posts
 Mercenaire gent d'armes
Thu 12 Dec 2019
at 17:48
Re: Out of Character 8
looks like rosewood will have to rely on the mob coming through the door, and follow the herd, whilst invisible. with them distracted, and invisibility, it should be possible enough.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1726 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Thu 12 Dec 2019
at 21:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 747):

There really is not a template for 75 point magic users, so I have kind of freestyled it, using the templates as guides. But as you see the numbers do add up, making them a playable character...sort of. I am not sure a mage would be playable with just one level of magery though.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 205 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Thu 12 Dec 2019
at 22:14
Re: Out of Character 8
Ouch.  Balir rolled max cutting on one of those thing's chests.  Assuming it has shock from his last attack and doesn't dodge it...  That is gonna hurt.
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 962 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Thu 12 Dec 2019
at 23:30
Re: Out of Character 8
Christine, there *is* a GM-built template for 75 point mages:

https://drive.google.com/file/...PDBHVWlz54ULqrj/view
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1728 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Fri 13 Dec 2019
at 00:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 751):

Ah, yes. I had not seen them. They also allow for magery up to level 3, and are otherwise not so different. I had 11 points in skills and 17 in spells (total 28), or 11 in skills and 20 in spells for the cleric (total 31). The Template had 26 in skills and 15 in spells (total 41). That paid for half the racial cost. Magery 0 as part of the racial package paid for 5 points.

Hence, the Leprechaun Mage I designed is only worth 2 more points than the template one, points taken from Attributes (lower FP mainly, from what I can tell).
Narrator
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Fri 13 Dec 2019
at 21:20
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 752):

be catching up after the weekend
Narrator
 GM, 7117 posts
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Tue 17 Dec 2019
at 00:20
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 753):

Have been readingvDF Whiterock, and seeing the relative stinginess of my ways. Some point adjustments have been made for some of the longer running groups, I think I have been better with the Sahudese group.
Narrator
 GM, 7121 posts
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Wed 18 Dec 2019
at 02:10
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 754):

Be back tomorrow helpfully
Ryojin
 player, 33 posts
 Martial artist
Wed 18 Dec 2019
at 17:10
Re: Out of Character 8
Uhhh...Haveron, you kinda jumped the gun on posting. Adept and Shroud needed to post in response to what the narrator posted. Unless some PM's were passed around, if so carry on dood.
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 313 posts
Wed 18 Dec 2019
at 17:29
Re: Out of Character 8
I interpreted it as a fox getting a small animal as food, but you're right...  It could be much more.  I didn't think it worthy of pausing the action, but it might be.  I'll put that update below this in hidden text and then re-add it if nothing comes from the event.

[Private to Haveron Stormwal: Haveron will oversee and participate in breaking camp (which includes breakfast, etc).  As they work away he'll comment to the Adept "Good choice", and add in "Thanks for the fog" to Burke (when he finds the right moment).

After everyone is ready to go, Haveron will take the front of the group with Burke.  He'll want Gareth close, since he was the other person who penetrated whatever spell was set on the head of the path.  In his judgement a good read guard would be Shroud with the Adept.  Everyone else can string out in the middle, although he'll want Omar protecting Amelia should they encounter trouble.

OOC I don't really know where we are in relation to the head of the path, which is the only waypoint I recall from the last thread.  Beyond that, I don't have any mental picture of how this sits in relation to the other locations we have touched.  Is there a world map I could look at to get an idea of where everything is?
]
Narrator
 GM, 7130 posts
 DM says
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Wed 18 Dec 2019
at 20:26
Re: Out of Character 8
Responded to, and link to a quick map placed.
Narrator
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Thu 19 Dec 2019
at 21:00
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 758):

Might be a few days before I can respond; today I was swamped in the OR, tomorrow promises more of the same, and the weekend has me running around to a mandatory social event and a family trip to see a Star War.I will see what I can do. Monday I know I am in a slower spot, and should be able to catch up a little
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1355 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Thu 19 Dec 2019
at 22:23
Re: Out of Character 8
Thanks for keeping us updated.  Life comes first, always.
Aegis
 player, 269 posts
 Veteran Mercenary
 Master-at-Arms
Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 00:49
Re: Out of Character 8
Hey Boss.  Glad you have some time away from the game with family.  Even a labor of love can be a chore from time to time.  It's good to have breaks.

All of the characters I play should be updated with your color codes.  One is on a google drive, and I'll probably need to write him up at some point.  But for now that's the only outstanding detail besides a few minor questions.

[Private to GM: The main question is Omar's sword.  We should get that documented because it's nice and magical.]
Narrator
 GM, 7141 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 14:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aegis (msg # 761):

That item is now on the sheet
Balir Ironhide
 player, 210 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 17:33
Re: Out of Character 8
Please take a look at the chatacter sheet - made an effort to separate out all the Dwarven items so you could see them.

[Private to GM: Thanks for the Omar update.]
Narrator
 GM, 7143 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 20:50
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 763):

Looking at it now, the disadvantages that are part of the dwarven racial kit do not belong as part of your disadvantages,

Dwarf is a flat 20 points and includes HT+1, FP+3,basic Move-1, Alchohol tolerance, DR1, Lifting ST+2, night vision 5, pickaxe penchant 1, resist poison+3, dwarven gear, greed, and stubbornness.
Those items do not affect your poit totsls for attributes,  advantages,  or disadvantages,  it is a 20 pt advantage. Breaking it down muddies the waters- your disad limits do not include any of thr above; i think you built him with only 30 pts of disads.
This is why I can't deal with software generated character sheets.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1820 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 21:06
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
This is why I can't deal with software generated character sheets.

AMEN!
Aldous Hack
 player, 64 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Sat 21 Dec 2019
at 00:16
Re: Out of Character 8
Some of us, however, prefer not to spend hours digging through books just to find the costs of various traits we know we need.  I can make a detailed low-points character in GCS in twenty minutes or so (maybe less, since the latest update to the program is a good bit faster than the version I was using); doing it on paper will take at least three times that.

I'll go look at the example sheet again and make sure my HTML output template is right, but I recall it being very similar, if not identical, to the way characters are usually written up for publication in books or articles.  Color coding, well, I might be able to figure out how to make the exporter do that, if it's important.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1822 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Sat 21 Dec 2019
at 03:16
Re: Out of Character 8
Aldous Hack:
I can make a detailed low-points character in GCS in twenty minutes or so (maybe less, since the latest update to the program is a good bit faster than the version I was using); doing it on paper will take at least three times that.

I can make a 250 point DF character in maybe 10 minutes on paper, by using the Profession Templates.

Granted, the 125 pointers take more time as they are a lot more opne ended, and I haven't looked at the 75 pointers at all.

quote:
Color coding, well, I might be able to figure out how to make the exporter do that, if it's important.

Or use the post editor?  Select the section, clicky-click the font color dropdown.
Narrator
 GM, 7149 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 22 Dec 2019
at 14:40
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aldous Hack (msg # 766):

Color coding just helps my ADD.

Putting racial templates back helps clarify pointvtotsls by category.
Narrator
 GM, 7150 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 22 Dec 2019
at 14:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 768):

Happy Holidays
Peaceable Yule
Joyful Solstice
Happy Hanukkah
Merry Christmas
cultist
 NPC, 62 posts
 deluded soul
Sun 22 Dec 2019
at 14:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 769):

Chaotic Saturnalia
Ymid
 NPC, 78 posts
 Mysterious sorcerer
 With one huge eye for a h
Mon 23 Dec 2019
at 18:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to cultist (msg # 770):

"Good things come to those who ask when an 18 is rolled for reaction"
Balir Ironhide
 player, 211 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Mon 23 Dec 2019
at 19:04
Re: Out of Character 8
No matter what you celebrate, happy holidays to all.  May your dice rolls be blessed.
Aldous Hack
 player, 65 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Mon 23 Dec 2019
at 23:40
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth Mooncalled:
quote:
Color coding, well, I might be able to figure out how to make the exporter do that, if it's important.

Or use the post editor?  Select the section, clicky-click the font color dropdown.


I'd rather make the exporter do it, if possible -- then I only have to do it once, instead of every time I update the RPoL copy of the character sheet.  I think it's possible, just have to look up the HTML coding for colored text.
Mancini
 player, 291 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 03:19
Re: Out of Character 8
I've heard rumors that a stealthy human cleric/ranger dressed in all red and white who hangs out with elves has possibly been spotted in the vicinity of Northport. Any truth to the rumors?

This is utmost important guild business and I need to know if the rumors are true quickly.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1824 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 03:30
Re: Out of Character 8
Ymid:
"Good things come to those who ask when an 18 is rolled for reaction"

Warn a mate before you explode t'e blood vessels in his brain ya?
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1826 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 04:06
Re: Out of Character 8
Aldous Hack:
I'd rather make the exporter do it, if possible -- then I only have to do it once, instead of every time I update the RPoL copy of the character sheet.  I think it's possible, just have to look up the HTML coding for colored text.

RPoL isn't quite using HTML.. it's <> tags but no font=, so it's:

<Red>Red</Red> for Red.

So, yeah, if you're up for sticking your fingers into the guts of the GCA an fiddlin... man, you gots it.  I used to be able to work that magic on the old GURPS GURU, but she was all spreadsheets, java, and minimal html...  I can't even get GCA to work properly, let alone think about gettin intimate with her inner workings.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1612 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 05:42
Re: Out of Character 8
santas workshop, and the lollipop guild both, should have representative envoys to the guild, i would think...being guildsmen, all.
Narrator
 GM, 7160 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 15:25
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mancini (msg # 774):

Northport mostly gets Krampus... although the Triunists have a saint on the rolls...
Amelia Montaigne
 player, 65 posts
 Agent about town
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 15:29
Re: Out of Character 8
I am surrounded by a bunch of nerds.  Why in the hell did I EVER let Haveron talk me into this gig....
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1827 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Wed 25 Dec 2019
at 06:03
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Peaceable Yule

May the Day King give good sport and run long enough to please the Old Mistresses and may their blood water deep the roots of the Heart of the Woods.  And in returning may the wild hunters come upon the great boar and lead him back that his flesh may bless the feast and ensure survival.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1736 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 25 Dec 2019
at 09:24
Re: Out of Character 8
Amelia Montaigne:
I am surrounded by a bunch of nerds.  Why in the hell did I EVER let Haveron talk me into this gig....


To feel at home...
Aldous Hack
 player, 68 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Thu 26 Dec 2019
at 10:06
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth, I'm using GCS, not GCA, and it exports plain HTML in a "published sheet" format that I then view with my browser as a local file to get what I copy/paste in RPoL's character sheet "editor".

And it, also, doesn't really use HTML in the parts I'll have to fiddle with; rather it's a very simple (and poorly documented, if at all) formatting language.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1828 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Thu 26 Dec 2019
at 17:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Aldous Hack:
And it, also, doesn't really use HTML in the parts I'll have to fiddle with; rather it's a very simple (and poorly documented, if at all) formatting language.

I wish you luck, that sounds more fiddly than I'd care to bother these days.
Oly
 player, 1169 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Thu 26 Dec 2019
at 22:32
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aldous Hack (msg # 782):

But I can connect you with the  GCS author who has been very helpful over the years, PM me ... or I'll give you the HTML page I use ... with a bit of work, it might do everything the GM would like. I am not HTML literate.
Aldous Hack
 player, 69 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Fri 27 Dec 2019
at 00:14
Re: Out of Character 8
Oly:
In reply to Aldous Hack (msg # 782):

But I can connect you with the  GCS author who has been very helpful over the years, PM me ... or I'll give you the HTML page I use ... with a bit of work, it might do everything the GM would like. I am not HTML literate.


I've been on the GCS mailing lists for years, but the author isn't much help with exporting character sheets (or wasn't last I checked) -- he's a pretty busy guy and GCS is freeware.  I think the exporter I already use just needs color tags added, and my sheets need the template sections reassembled (instead of broken out for my convenience in spotting what I can actually do).
Oly
 player, 1170 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Fri 27 Dec 2019
at 03:10
Re: Out of Character 8
OK, He is indeed a very busy fellow, but has always been helpful.
It's probably because we have a limited use for this that he hasn't taken time to fix it... I am sure RPOL is not the majority of his users.

The html page I use provides this display:

Eoghen McMahon250
Strength12Race: HumanGender: MalePlayer: Aethulred
Dexterity11Hair: Reddish brown, Wavy, MediumEyes: GreenCampaign:
Intelligence12Skin: FairHand: Right 
Health10Size: +0Age: 16Basic HP12
 Height: 6'TL: 4Current HP 
Will12Weight: 165 lbBirth Date: June 30Reeling3
Fright12 Collapse0
Perception12Basic Speed5.25Basic FP10Check #1-12
Vision12Basic Move5Current FP Check #2-24
Hearing12 Tired3Check #3-36
Taste & Smell12Thrust1d-1Collapse0Check #4-48
Touch12Swing1d+2Unconscious-10Dead-60

ENCUMBRANCE, MOVE, DODGE
LevelMax LoadMoveDodge
• None (0)29 lb58
Light (1)58 lb47
Medium (2)87 lb36
Heavy (3)174 lb25
X-Heavy (4)290 lb14

HIT LOCATION
RollLocationDRPenalty
-Eye0-9
3-4Skull2-7
5Face0-5
6-7Right Leg0-2
8Right Arm1-2
9-10Torso10
11Groin1-3
12Left Arm1-2
13-14Left Leg0-2
15Hand0-4
16Foot0-4
17-18Neck0-5
-Vitals1-3

ADVANTAGES
AdvantagePts
Acute Sense (Magic Use) 12
Binding 3 (Engulfing, +60%.)10
Empathy (Sensitive)5
Innate Attack (Piercing) 210
Language: Common (Native, -6; Spoken (Native), +3; Written (Native), +3.)0
Language: Faerie (Spoken (Accented), +2.)2
Magery 115
TK Grab 17
Bad Sight (Farsighted)-10
Bad Temper (CR: 12 (Resist Quite Often).)-10
Curious (CR: 12 (Resist Quite Often).)-5
Honesty (CR: 12 (Resist Quite Often).)-10
Attentive-1
Broad-Minded-1
Congenial-1
Imaginative-1
Like Pastries-1

SKILLS
SkillLevelRSLPtsRef
Animal Handling (Dogs)11IQ-11B175
Brawling11DX+01B182
Climbing11DX+02B183
Detect Lies11Per-11B187
Fast-Talk12IQ+02B195
First Aid/TL412IQ+01B195
Hidden Lore (Faerie Lore)11IQ-11B199
Innate Attack (Projectile)11DX+01B201
Literature10IQ-21B205
Mathematics/TL4 (Applied)10IQ-21B207
Naturalist (Earthlike)10IQ-21B211
Shortsword12DX+14B209
Stealth11DX+02B222
Tracking12Per+02B226

SPELLS
SpellCollege/ClassCast/MaintainTime/DurationSkillRSLPtsRef
Sense FoesCommunication & Empathy1/area, min 21 sec11(IQ-1)1M44
 Info/Area-Instant    
Sense EmotionCommunication & Empathy21 sec11(IQ-1)1M45
 Regular-Instant    
TruthsayerCommunication & Empathy21 sec11(IQ-1)1M45
 Info-Instant    
Mind-ReadingCommunication & Empathy410 sec11(IQ-1)1M46
 Regular21 min    
Hide ThoughtsCommunication & Empathy31 sec11(IQ-1)1M46
 Regular110 min    
Seek WaterWater21 sec11(IQ-1)1M184
 Info-Instant    
Purify WaterWater1/gal5-10/gal#11(IQ-1)1M184
 Special-Permanent    
Create WaterWater2/gal1 sec11(IQ-1)1M184
 Regular-Permanent    
Icy WeaponWater33 sec11(IQ-1)1M185
(+2 freezing damage to melee weapons)Regular11 min    
Shape WaterWater1#2 sec11(IQ-1)1M185
 Regular11 min    
FogWater/Weather21 sec11(IQ-1)1M193
 AreaHalf1 min    
Ice SphereWater1-Magery1-3 sec11(IQ-1)1M186
 Missile-Instant    
Water JetWater1-31 sec11(IQ-1)1M187
 Regular1-31 sec    
Destroy WaterWater31 sec11(IQ-1)1M185
 AreaSamePermanent    
Create AcidWater4/gal2 sec11(IQ-1)1M190
 Regular-Permanent    
AuraKnowledge31 sec11(IQ-1)1M101
 Info-Instant    
Detect MagicKnowledge25 sec11(IQ-1)1M101
 Regular-Instant    
Identify SpellKnowledge21 sec11(IQ-1)1M102
 Info-Instant    
SeekerKnowledge31 sec11(IQ-1)1M105
 Info-Instant    
Seek EarthEarth310 sec11(IQ-1)1M50
 Info-Instant    
Shape EarthEarth1/25 cu ft1 sec11(IQ-1)1M50
 RegularHalf1 min    
Earth VisionEarth/Knowledge2/10 yds#1 sec11(IQ-1)1M51
 RegularSame30 sec    
Earth to StoneEarth3/25 cu ft #1 sec11(IQ-1)1M51
 Regular-Permanent    
Create EarthEarth2/25 cu ft1 sec11(IQ-1)1M51
 Regular-Permanent    
Flesh to StoneEarth10#2 sec11(IQ-1)1M31
 Regular-Permanent    

EQUIPMENT
ItemQtyCostWeightRef
All My Carried Things1$9,8258.831 lb 
 
Leather Shoes1$251 lb 
 
Clothing -normal Everyday clothes1$9205.781 lb 
(Has a belt and pockets)
The One Stone (that Tracks them All) 3 pt Powerstone (charge: 3)1$2800.001 lbM20
(The Diamond has a strange link to the other four stones. Activating this stone grants the user the ability to know which direction all four stones are from the user. You can distinguish between the different stones with the diamond. So you'll know the four directions, and know which one is the moonstone, which one is the ruby, etc. This doesn't reveal the distance to each stone. Duration: 10 minutes Cost: 1 to cast, 1 to maintain )
Merchantile Letter of Credit1$3500.004 lbB264
(Standard method of transfering larger sums.)
Purse, Small1$2100.276 lbB288
 
Copper Farthing4$40.032 lbB264
 
Silver Coin9$360.036 lbB264
 
Gold Coin2$1600.008 lbB264
 
Cloak -Short, Light1$151 lb 
(A hip length light cloak, often water proofed)
Glove of Flaming Fists1$7,5450.05 lbM219
(DR -1 & Fireproof ; It is a finely crafted glove, well worn but also well oiled made of soft, tooled leather which will always fit snugly on the wearers hand. It adapts to either left or right handed wear for a mage. It is dyed a rich deep red and will radiate faint magic until used, when it shows as very magical. Any person may wear this glove, but the wearer must have magery to use it’s ability and to have it fit comfortably. )
Baton (Rod Magical)1$1,3201 lbB273
(Magical tool, extends reach, Graceful weapon, Puissance+1, Create Water, Create Fire, Limited to Eoghen)
Backpack, Small1$2853 lbB288
 
Everyday Clothing2$16010 lb 
(Normal everyday clothing with a belt)
First Aid Kit1$502 lb 
(Gives a +1 to first Aid rolls)
Personal Basics1$152 lb 
(Cup, Eating Utensils, flint, sharpening stone- the stff no one but an idiot leaves home without)

Attributes: 80Advantages: 51Disadvantages: -35Skills: 21Spells: 25Unspent: 113Total: 250

Aldous Hack
 player, 71 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Fri 27 Dec 2019
at 10:02
Re: Out of Character 8
But that's not what the boss wants to see (and probably can't be dumped into the RPoL character sheet page, except possibly as an image file).  He likes a list format, like what we'd see for a character stat block published in a book or magazine.  Further, he likes to see the template blocks kept together -- which I concede makes it easier to be sure a new character is on template, but which the HTML export filter isn't going to affect.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1829 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Fri 27 Dec 2019
at 15:26
Re: Out of Character 8
Aldous Hack:
...(and probably can't be dumped into the RPoL character sheet page, except possibly as an image file).

It's remarkably similar to the way I keep my sheet.  It just requires understanding RPoL tables, which admittedly don't work like tables I've seen at any other site.


Sigh.  Cross site standardization is lost cause...
Oly
 player, 1171 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Fri 27 Dec 2019
at 19:52
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aldous Hack (msg # 787):

Actually I use this format for most of my RPOL characters, many which have been around for a few years. It pastes in readily.
I am more than willing to adjust, but would like to see a converter that takes GCS files and turns them into RPOL/Northport files as an option.

My issue with this HTML sheet is that it doesn't show melee and missile stats.
Aldous Hack
 player, 72 posts
 Housekeeper's orphan,
 Street runner, rogue
Fri 27 Dec 2019
at 23:38
Re: Out of Character 8
Jareth Mooncalled:
Sigh.  Cross site standardization is lost cause...


If software developers can't keep their own stuff compatible with itself or avoid making big changes to the UI with every major version update, how can we expect anything better across web sites?
Narrator
 GM, 7172 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 28 Dec 2019
at 00:16
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aldous Hack (msg # 790):

Be catching up tomorrow I hope
Narrator
 GM, 7187 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 20:56
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 791):

Might be able to catch up tomorrow,  if not, Happy New Year!
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1831 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 21:55
Re: Out of Character 8
Happy New Year!  Hopefully a better one than last.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1361 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 22:23
Re: Out of Character 8
One can always hope.  Powerball tickets on the fridge, waiting for the first drawing of 2020.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1739 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 03:15
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 794):

If you want to win at powerball, use the money to buy shares in the company! Much better returns!
Grimaldi
 player, 561 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 03:33
Re: Out of Character 8
i'm surprised nobody in the road to veroigne thread, hasn't thought to simply drag the smoldering vampires outside in the sun, to crumble to dust. starting fires is kinda making it harder on yourselves, just sayin'.... xD
Kirpich Rockson
 player, 971 posts
 Earth Cleric
 He Rocks!
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 05:21
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 796):

Good idea as long as that does not open themselves up to further attacks...
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1363 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 11:32
Re: Out of Character 8
Christine Bjorn:
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 794):

If you want to win at powerball, use the money to buy shares in the company! Much better returns!


Yeah, but that takes more investment than I have to spare, and takes years to do anything.  This is gambling, not investing.  For the price of a flat white or a burger and fries, I have a (tiny but calculable) chance to permanently change my life.  And a near certainty of being ridiculed by my partner for buying yet another pair of defective tickets with no matching numbers...  ;)
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1832 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 16:22
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
And a near certainty of being ridiculed by my partner for buying yet another pair of defective tickets with no matching numbers...  ;)

As long as you're being honest about your reasons, have fun.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1364 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 00:25
Re: Out of Character 8
No illusions here, Jareth.  I'm capable of doing the math (or was forty years ago when we did combinatorials in high school advanced math), I know Powerball and Mega Millions are sucker bets even when the jackpot busts $200 million.  On the other hand, I'm not (and won't be) spending money I need for other things -- I don't buy tickets when I need to keep every buck to get to payday, I don't buy more than two $2 tickets at a time.

If I were serious about trying to win, I'd be doing arcane statistical analysis of every draw since the last time they changed out the balls in the machine -- and I'd know what date that was -- and I'd be buying at least $100 worth of tickets at a time, probably twice that (a Wheeling system doesn't work if you don't buy enough tickets to get some advantage from knowing the more commonly drawn numbers).

But like they say, you can't win if you don't play.  At my age, I can't wait for investments to grow -- but if I hit the lottery, I can still pass the physical for a pilot's license, at least in the USA.
Hograth Podkarmen
 player, 397 posts
 Holy Dwarven Warrior
 Of Hades, Get it Right!
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 04:05
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 800):

Should Hograth wait for the new thread, or wait for the others to come through the gate?
Aine Walsh
 player, 1 post
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 04:34
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Hograth Podkarmen (msg # 801):

Also, is there any reason a Leprechaun would join those in the Mug and Cauldron? Even if she walked into the bar upstairs, not sure she could be given an IC reason to help in the raucous downstairs...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1834 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 10/10
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 05:01
Re: Out of Character 8
Ardenas Barehand:
No illusions here, Jareth.  I'm capable of doing the math (or was forty years ago when we did combinatorials in high school advanced math)...

/brain shuts off at the merest whiff of higher math but nods along anyway...

quote:
If I were serious about trying to win, I'd be doing arcane statistical analysis of every draw since the last time they changed out the balls in the machine -- and I'd know what date that was -- and I'd be buying at least $100 worth of tickets at a time, probably twice that (a Wheeling system doesn't work if you don't buy enough tickets to get some advantage from knowing the more commonly drawn numbers).

I had an Uncle who went hard into all that.  He never won, let alone broke even*.

Granted he liked to do a line of coke before going out to buy his tickets... so there may have been other mitigating factors* in his life being full of failure.


* Granted, this was also in Chicago, and if you think the Lotto wasn't rigged in that town... I have a few politicians to sell you.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1614 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 05:21
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aine Walsh (msg # 802):

about as much a reason as a sahudese that speaks no aralaise, or shevnian would. (Gennojo)
Aine Walsh
 player, 2 posts
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 05:28
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 804):

So, just rock into the pub, hear the noise downstairs, and go to investigate?
Narrator
 GM, 7201 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 13:07
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aine Walsh (msg # 805):

Actually, you will enter for another reason- an angry club besring crowd is running the streets, and you need to be scarce. You run into a stableyard, and spot an open door...
Narrator
 GM, 7204 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 13:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 806):

I fumbled something earlier in an accounting thread- solid silver objects without value for shape (ie it broke) that are specified as bring coin-pure are treated as bullion, and have a 100% resale value, unlike "items of virtue"
Narrator
 GM, 7207 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 17:14
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 807):

Hostile creatures roll reaction at -5...
An unmodified roll of 7 becomes a 2...
Stenet Fjall
 player, 323 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 22:29
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
I fumbled something earlier in an accounting thread- solid silver objects without value for shape (ie it broke) that are specified as bring coin-pure are treated as bullion, and have a 100% resale value, unlike "items of virtue"

S'okay boss.  I completely forgot an entire amount of money we were handed.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 214 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Fri 3 Jan 2020
at 16:06
Re: Out of Character 8
Been hosting family for the entire break, and the family business got a bit heavy.  Apologies for letting it push this penguin off the iceberg.  Back now.
Narrator
 GM, 7213 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 3 Jan 2020
at 17:51
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 810):

No problem. Going, as always, has been slow.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1742 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Fri 3 Jan 2020
at 21:24
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 811):

I might be a bit slow the next week...will be without computer so posts will be shorter!
Narrator
 GM, 7226 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 4 Jan 2020
at 15:35
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 812):

Should be catching up Monday... have a good weekend!
Narrator
 GM, 7237 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 8 Jan 2020
at 22:21
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 813):

Took my mom to see a show, will try and regroup tomorrow
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 499 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Wed 8 Jan 2020
at 22:40
Re: Out of Character 8
Did you really just have the Ymid take a selfie with Kalina?  OMG that is frikkin hilarious.
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 975 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Wed 8 Jan 2020
at 23:41
Re: Out of Character 8
Tourists.  Some things are the same everywhere.
Ymid
 NPC, 84 posts
 Mysterious sorcerer
 With one huge eye for a h
Thu 9 Jan 2020
at 03:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 815):

O)
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 501 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Thu 9 Jan 2020
at 16:25
Re: Out of Character 8
Hahahahahaha!!
Narrator
 GM, 7263 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 13 Jan 2020
at 22:27
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 818):

My kid is in the hospital,  might be a while before I catch up.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 217 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Mon 13 Jan 2020
at 23:08
Re: Out of Character 8
OMG, so sorry to hear that boss.  Not much we can probably do but I am very sorry to hear it.  Remember to take care of yourself while you deal with the situation, whatever it is.

Wish we could get one of these priests on site to give you a hand.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1753 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Mon 13 Jan 2020
at 23:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 820):

Will pray for the kid. Is about Alli can do...
Chye Isuel
 player, 1618 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 00:56
Re: Out of Character 8
gee whiz, i'm sorry to hear that! hoping for a full recovery!
Oly
 player, 1175 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 02:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 819):

Take care of the child, your wife and yourself; we will be fine.
Bechazruhk Burke
 player, 52 posts
 Dirty Hippy
 "Name's Burke"
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 06:27
Re: Out of Character 8
Sorry to that boss, hope everything turns out fine.  Take the time you need to tend to family.
Masugatan
 player, 315 posts
 street thug
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 11:26
Re: Out of Character 8
Trying to send some positive vibes your way.
Rosewood
 player, 63 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 11:34
Re: Out of Character 8
We will be here when you come back.

Take care of yourself first, when your child come out of hospital they need you to be health so you can look after them properly.

My best wishes to all of your family.
Narrator
 GM, 7264 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 14:41
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 826):

She should be getting discharged today. She is doing much better. The ER folks just need to coordinate with her regular care team.

It wasn't as serious as her doctor had thought.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1849 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 19:41
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
It wasn't as serious as her doctor had thought.

That is welcome news.
Oly
 player, 1176 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 19:48
Re: Out of Character 8
Yes, that is Good...
Narrator
 GM, 7269 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 19:56
Re: Out of Character 8
She is home, stable, and dealing. Mental illness runs in my family (see my entry in Stat Yourself). I am glad we have decent insurance.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 218 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Tue 14 Jan 2020
at 20:04
Re: Out of Character 8
We have some in ours as well.  Mine is minor and well managed, but some of the extended family have it in higher doses.  Not easy boss, and sorry you have to deal with it.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1851 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Wed 15 Jan 2020
at 01:46
Re: Out of Character 8
Now I almost want to play an Artificer with a Golem powered siege auto-crossbow...


AHAHAHA!  LET ME SHOW IT'S FEATURES!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...w&feature=em-lsp


Almost.  But I'm already playing a one-trick pony, and that's generally my limit.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1754 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 15 Jan 2020
at 08:52
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 832):

Hmmm, have the golem...
Ales Konstantin
 player, 810 posts
 Spellsword
Wed 15 Jan 2020
at 14:58
Re: Out of Character 8
I'll take a fire golem and a side of magic spells....
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1755 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 15 Jan 2020
at 20:41
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ales Konstantin (msg # 834):

"Pretty sure they dont exist..."
Narrator
 GM, 7270 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 15 Jan 2020
at 22:11
Re: Out of Character 8
To pull a page from Ben Ten, you can have a fire elemental inside an armor golem...
Or a ghost inside a diving suit, to rip from Hellboy.

Got slammed today with a side of stupid
(A techie disabled equipment in a room and went home, the setup takes about 5 minutes to swap the item between two respurces, and no cases can be running in either room during the swap out)

What fin. Hopefully back tomorrow.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1376 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Wed 15 Jan 2020
at 23:36
Re: Out of Character 8
Even duct tape can't fix stupid.

It can, however, muffle it...  :/
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1852 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Wed 15 Jan 2020
at 23:47
Re: Out of Character 8
I have come to the determination that  hate influenza.  Too much pain for such a tiny little virus.
Narrator
 GM, 7271 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 17 Jan 2020
at 20:27
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 838):

Feel better!
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1854 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 00:03
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
Feel better!

On the meds... so I 'do' already... and 'don't' as well.  But it's Flu type 'A' so it's at least the easy one to kick.  And a straight out run of the mill secondary bacteriological ear/sinus infection on top of it.  Yay... z-pack.  My digestion runneth over with joy.

If it all goes as well as sicknesses normally do for me, I'll be fine by Monday.  On the plus side, the absolutely funk enforced bedrest has finally healed up the blown out knee I suffered over thanksgiving.  So... a positive?  Worst attempt to save money I ever had.*





* The friday afternoon after Thanksgiving the water main for the house ruptured, swamped out the front yard.  Took me over a half an hour of digging and chopping tree roots by hand to get to the valve by the street (the tree had collapsed the enclosure, which since I never open the enclosure I never noticed till now).  By this time my right knee (which is badish) and my left knee (which is worse) hurt.  So I says to myself, "Self, we're already in pain.  We can save a whole heap of Holiday Weekend Labor fee and parts markups and just fix this ourself.  It's just plumbing, ain't like we ain't done this a hundred times before, and it'll only cost maybe $30 and a few hours work."

Well...  I was right, it only cost $20 and that was with me buying a box of nails and a couple of new buckets (which had nothing to do with this repair), however I was forgetting two salient facts.

Fact #1:  I don't actually own a real shovel.  None of my neighbors own real shovels.  The last time I had to do real shoveling (a few months back fixing broken fence posts) I had to borrow a real shovel.  So I had to do all that digging... which increased as I went (decided I had to check the entire length for splits), on my knees, with a 2 foot garden spade.  And I forgot to buy a real shovel while in the Home Despot.

Fact #2:  I am no longer immortal and invulnerable.  I am in fact over 45.  You would think the searing pain in the left knee would have clue-by-foured its way through the stubborn machismo and said "Hey, whoa, slow down man. It's just money and few days of no showers, it's better than a blown out knee."  But no... stubbornness 'won'.  Again.

But hey, 2 days of not really moving too much, just lazin about in bed like a desperately sick guy has finally put my knee almost back to 80% (which is as good as it gets these days).

And it's costing me $650.  ($300 in medical, $350 in lost paycheck).  Sigh.  There goes that Kickstarter I was going to help fund (no seriously, I'm doing okay moneywise.  Six hundred clams ain't nothing to sneeze at, but I've got it covered.  It was set aside for few KSers, which I've withdrawn from).

Maybe next year I'll get the flu shot.  They never seem to help... but then again aside from the flu-like symptoms I suffer from fro a week after it, I also never seem to get the cold those years (not that I get a flu much ever anyway, am a 'cold' guy...).
Narrator
 GM, 7279 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 02:34
Re: Out of Character 8
Yeoch! My knee improved minimally after I had meniscus surgery last year,  and there have been setbacks, so I feel your pain.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1757 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 03:06
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 841):

48 here. What does not kill you does not always make you stronger...
Chye Isuel
 player, 1620 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 03:59
Re: Out of Character 8
i should get more exercise, but i'm actually in better health now than i was when i was 30. 38, now.
Narrator
 GM, 7280 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 04:10
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 843):

51 here. Definitely in worse shape than I was twelve years ago. Back then I was reeducating, and walking 4 hours a day, mostly up and down stairs.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1855 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 04:14
Re: Out of Character 8
Narrator:
51 here. Definitely in worse shape than I was twelve years ago. Back then I was reeducating, and walking 4 hours a day, mostly up and down stairs.

Yeah, the last year of piloting a desk has done my health no good.  At Least the previous kitchen job was on my feet in constant motion... now I'm fighting to not nap through the incredibly boring mornings at work.
Narrator
 GM, 7285 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 04:44
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 845):

I am either standing for 3 hours at a shot in the OR while wearing lead garments, walking while pushing things for for 4 hours at a time, or mostly sitting for six
Oly
 player, 1177 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 19:32
Re: Out of Character 8
Gee Kids, I am done working for money; now I just work for my wife doing such honey do's as I can.
Back is screwed up some, hips are replaced, knees bug me and my feet hurt.  Other than that I am doing great!
Need to lose about 80 pounds I guess, a desk job for 15+ years contributed to that. Prior to that I was moving about a lot more.
Stenet Fjall
 player, 344 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 13/13 FP: 17/17
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 19:44
Re: Out of Character 8
Two demon slayers and sun priest walk into a demon bar...
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1377 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sat 18 Jan 2020
at 21:44
Re: Out of Character 8
Wow.

At 60, I have two good knees, a back that never complained for more than a day or two at a time before my rear-end accident last January (and since healing up, it's pretty much back to that condition), and I've Never.  Had.  Flu.

I am diabetic, but still only on metformin and glipizide after almost 18 years of diagnosis, and it doesn't slow me down, just limits my eating a bit.  Arthritis is a bitch, but aspirin a couple times a day controls it, for the most part.

Guess I'm doing okay!
Oly
 player, 1178 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Sun 19 Jan 2020
at 00:08
Re: Out of Character 8
Not bad, I have avoided the Diabetes. Have had the flu a few times, no way to avoid it if you work in a crowded place.
My Back went with 120-140 pound rucksacks in Vietnam ... took a while for the Arthritis to show, but it did.
I can get by with out meds if I get a nerve or two burned out every 18-24 months.
Hips likely went along with the rucks and riding around in tracked vehicles while standing in the hatch.
Still, for 73 I am doing pretty well.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1621 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Mon 20 Jan 2020
at 23:27
Re: Out of Character 8
cutting out soda, 12-14 hour fasts, and cooking my own meals from raw ingredients has done wonders. i was pushing 220, now i'm 195-200, but i'd like to be 185-190 ideally. i'm pretty sedentary these days, now that i'm semi-retired. could use more exercise, i've become a lay-about.

This message was last edited by the player at 23:29, Mon 20 Jan.

Rethus
 NPC, 13 posts
 Handsome stranger
Tue 21 Jan 2020
at 15:23
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 851):

"I feel so left out of things!"
Balir Ironhide
 player, 221 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Tue 21 Jan 2020
at 19:53
Re: Out of Character 8
50 and in need of a hip replacement due to various sports, some time in construction, and a genetic condition that has advanced the arthritis.  I stubbornly keep at the sand volleyball...even though I'm under 6 feet tall.  Never been good enough to play with the big boys, but the sand is forgiving and it's excellent exercise.  And my motivation to keep doing it (until I can't) has kept me exercising several days a week.  So far I have been able to manage the hip and related issues (like my back). When the pain gets past ibuprofen I'll probably have to buckle down and get it done.
Narrator
 GM, 7294 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 21 Jan 2020
at 22:29
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 853):

I typically spend two days a week in the operating room with our ortho surgeons running fluoroscopy while they replace hips. These days it is a quick peocedure with a very rapid recovery time, much faster than a lot of ortho surgery. I get a lot of opportunities to speak with the patients, and they seem to get back to moving around better faster.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 222 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Tue 21 Jan 2020
at 22:55
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm very excited to see what life would be like with a good hip.  It has been the source of problems as long as I can remember, although I didn't figure it out until a few years ago.

Of course I have to balance that against the restrictions they bring, active teenagers, and caring for an elderly parent with cancer.  :/
Berry
 player, 163 posts
 Mage
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 05:19
Re: Out of Character 8
I feel like Berry is going to get eaten by a tiger some day.
Gareth
 player, 539 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 07:34
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Berry (msg # 856):

You probably should take Animal Handling (felines) to mitigate that...
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 328 posts
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 15:41
Re: Out of Character 8
Haveron probably needs to invest in Animal Handling (Necromancer).
Narrator
 GM, 7296 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 19:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 858):

Don't you have Two handed sword for that?
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 329 posts
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 19:54
Re: Out of Character 8
It would work.  However, then we use the benefit of having he Necromancer in it's native habitat.  These animals require study.  They are a peculiar breed, with especially strange mating habits.
Narrator
 GM, 7298 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 20:18
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 860):

Especially with their own handiwork!
Chye Isuel
 player, 1623 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 22:04
Re: Out of Character 8
wait... ew.
Grimaldi
 player, 580 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 22:06
Re: Out of Character 8
lol xD
Gareth
 player, 540 posts
 Odd Character
 Smokin' Human
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 04:49
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 863):

That is twisted...even for me!

Gareth was always meant to be a handful for his own party. Keep them asking the question "Is the Devil we know really better than the devil we dont?"
Haveron Stormwal
 player, 331 posts
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 15:52
Re: Out of Character 8
Why yes.  Yes he is.  And you're doing an excellent job of making him a pain in the ...  Just like he should be as a necromancer who is more neutral than evil.

I would even go so far as to say you have done an excellent job fleshing out the thought patterns behind his actions.  It pains me to say this, because he's literally my monkey in my circus, but ...you deserve recognition for the role-playing side of things.
Narrator
 GM, 7308 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 19:22
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Haveron Stormwal (msg # 865):

There will be points forthcoming,  although there will still not be any option for singular action after the previous situation.
Aoife
 player, 670 posts
 Leprechaun
 Priestess of Cerrunos
Fri 24 Jan 2020
at 10:16
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 866):

Mancini or Ales in that last post hunting for a specialty shop?
Leroy du Lac
 player, 149 posts
 Mercenaire gent d'armes
Fri 24 Jan 2020
at 13:55
Re: Out of Character 8
any logistic gurus know how i can calculate the damage done by my shield bash?
Narrator
 GM, 7322 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 24 Jan 2020
at 14:19
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 868):

Thrust crush
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1860 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Fri 24 Jan 2020
at 18:41
Re: Out of Character 8
Leroy du Lac:
any logistic gurus know how i can calculate the damage done by my shield bash?

A 'shield bash' is:

SHIELD (DX-4)
TLWeaponDamageReachParryCostWeightSTNotes
0Shield Bashthr cr1Novar.var. 
1Shield Bash w. Spikethr+1 cr1No+$20+5 

But I'd have to see the post to know what the action was.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:42, Fri 24 Jan.

Mancini
 player, 313 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Fri 24 Jan 2020
at 21:53
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Aoife (msg # 867):

Oops. That is one new wild talents I am trying out, doppelganger. It allows me to appear as a character in a totally different post for the sheer purpose of causing confusion.

Seriously, I accidentally posted as Ales. I thought I had flipped it over to Mancini. I will go and correct.
anaconda
 player, 13 posts
 Ssssssnakey
 Who said "Bite Me?"
Fri 24 Jan 2020
at 22:01
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mancini (msg # 871):

Lol, been there, dome that!
Narrator
 GM, 7325 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 24 Jan 2020
at 22:12
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to anaconda (msg # 872):

Catch up monday?
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1381 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Fri 24 Jan 2020
at 23:43
Re: Out of Character 8
Sure.  I've got D&D two days this weekend, and a ham radio event I'd like to get to at least part of (Winter Field Day).
Mancini
 player, 314 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Sat 25 Jan 2020
at 04:11
Re: Out of Character 8
Ugh.... You mean we have to pause the stories right when we're getting to the good part?
Narrator
 GM, 7326 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 25 Jan 2020
at 17:10
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mancini (msg # 875):

Out with the wife for the weekend is low posting time
Mancini
 player, 315 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Sat 25 Jan 2020
at 23:23
Re: Out of Character 8
It's cool. Enjoy your weekend.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1626 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 25 Jan 2020
at 23:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mancini (msg # 877):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTZzHQn4VhQ
Nodwin Zideqick
 player, 511 posts
 Initiate of Vejovis
 FP:7/13 HP:10/10
Sun 26 Jan 2020
at 15:39
Re: Out of Character 8
I find if the marriage thread is not maintained, the others tend to suffer.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1766 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Sun 26 Jan 2020
at 23:02
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Nodwin Zideqick (msg # 879):

Oh yeah. Happy wife, happy life...a lot of truth in that?
Narrator
 GM, 7327 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 27 Jan 2020
at 16:49
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 880):

Seems to be the case. We went to dinner andvto a museum we have membership at, then the next day to the farmer's market, thrift shopping and to a musical, with some series binging in between. Now I have to figure on next weekend,  or at least the part I am not doing OT.
Rosewood
 player, 69 posts
 Pixie
 Wizardling
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 19:27
Re: Out of Character 8
Just one passing thought.

Our group has just left 3-4 humans dead in the streets.
Yet nobody seem that bothered by it.

GM
quote:
Welcome to Northport, a greater hive of scum and villainy you will not find!


Rosewood really is in the wrong world.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 153 posts
 Mercenaire gent d'armes
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 19:46
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Rosewood (msg # 882):
It seems the gendarmes don't give a toss, in this neighborhood.
These thugs are probably the locally, self-appointed goon squad.
now that the guild is involved, and people are dead, this little group will either sue for peace, or actually throw down the gauntlet to the guild.
Narrator
 GM, 7334 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 20:00
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Leroy du Lac (msg # 883):

Three are in a back alley behind a line of washing and an outhouse.
Two are in an alleyway behind a large procession of drunkards.
Two more are at the steps down into a bar frequented by people who do not want the Guard in their lives.
The primary social skill of folks in this neighborhood is Minding your Own Business, otherwise known as Streetwise.
Mancini
 player, 316 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 23:21
Re: Out of Character 8
Are you waiting for more responses before posting in Hunting, GM?
Narrator
 GM, 7340 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 29 Jan 2020
at 21:29
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mancini (msg # 885):

Sorry, haven't been able to get caught up
Mancini
 player, 317 posts
 Shrewd Guildsman, Rank 3
 Charisma 2, Voice
Wed 29 Jan 2020
at 22:36
Re: Out of Character 8
No worries.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1777 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Fri 31 Jan 2020
at 02:42
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Mancini (msg # 887):

So we have...

Temple Hill, 2 groups.
     > Check out the gates, (Melchizadek and co)
     > Clean the hill (Hograth and co)
Mug and Cauldron, Very Low group killin rats

New in Town, Henchmen group dealing with racists (and maybe a fey-demon)

Dismal Tower > Christine about to depart to find out about divining, with heaps of monsters/dragon to deal with, Looking for a healer

Al Menir group off dealing with tower...

Road to Veroinge, dealing with 'Master' (Dragon?) and vampiric minions.

Hunting for specialty shop, 2 groups
     > Group 1, hunting
     > Group 2 (Henchmen with weird tourist) doing what?

Reanna and Co, dealing with mage guild investigators...

Edit, Oh, and the Rice Run. I forgot about the thread I don't have anyone in! :)

I guess everyone should decide what sounds interesting , and send characters to the right places, right GM?

This message was last edited by the player at 03:02, Fri 31 Jan.

Jednesa
 player, 399 posts
 Naked Barbarian Ogress
 HP:29/36 FP:12/13
Fri 31 Jan 2020
at 03:42
Re: Out of Character 8
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