Out of Character 8.   Posted by Narrator.Group: archive 0
Chye Isuel
 player, 1508 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 16:54
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 190):
uh oh spaghettios
Narrator
 GM, 6475 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 17:57
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 191):

I need to take a break from this. I put a lot of work in attempting to accommodate a player who violated the basic social contract of the game.
I gave him  a chance to rewrite the character at 250 points, and they neglected to include the previously decided cost of the golem that had been the character's main concept. Just wasting my time.


I have enough issues with the mutilation of character sheet structure that GCA does in breaking down racial packages and alphabetizing them. I accept occasional rearrangement of points, swapping unused disads for new ones that better fit character concept, or consolidation of partially bought advantages for equivalent ones with the same effect. These modifications are always discussed in occ forums and pms, and approved or modified before implementation.
Oly
 player, 1101 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 20:55
Re: Out of Character 8
I have to agree that that is not permissible ... I have had a few players try to under value advantages ... done it myself with weights, costs and prerequisites, but always above board and with some rational. They are not always accepted.  Anyone can succeed by cheating, but if we all did it, the games wouldn't be fun, since you could just adjust things to be all powerful.  250 point characters are pretty darn powerful anyway.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1509 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 21:43
Re: Out of Character 8
cheating when you're already playin' by yaself is pretty damn funny though... *covers mouth*
Oly
 player, 1102 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Sat 15 Jun 2019
at 23:52
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 194):

True too...
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1229 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 11:14
Re: Out of Character 8
I've never used GCA -- but I've used GCS since well before it was swapped to Java to simplify cross-platform use (same program works on Windows, Mac, and Linux).  It lacks the direct support of SJ Games, and the developer is a bit swamped at times so fixes and such can take a while -- but it's been very stable for a long time, users can add stuff (like new spells, advantages, and skills), and the source code is open so programmers can even fix the code if they speak Java.  There are support mailing lists so users can easily contact the developer as well as help each other.

Handles templates pretty well, IMO.  Ardenas was done on GCS, and was my first DF character build.

What it doesn't have is long descriptions of anything -- the developer considers that copyrighted material that exceeds the public play aid license SJ has given.  That's fine, if you use abilities from books you have access to, you won't have problems with it -- and users can add notes to things for quick in-play reference.

Now, that said, anyone can cheat at an RPG if they put their mind to it; I've seen it done in OD&D back when a character sheet was a random piece of ruled notebook paper or graph paper.  My take on it was, it was like cheating at solitaire, only worse because you can ruin someone else's fun.

And ruining the fun for others is the only genuine sin in RPG play.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 134 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 15:13
Re: Out of Character 8
Sorry about all the chaos.  It's already so much work to run these games as it is.  I understand why it happens, as gamers we all probably feel the temptation.  It's all about being mature individually so you can be a good citizen in the game.

On another subject, Happy Father's Day to all for whom that applies.
Narrator
 GM, 6476 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 18:16
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 197):

Happy fathers day to all!


At least the work done in designing the adventure will get reused in my con game.

Did a wrap up that should work for my needs.

This message was last edited by the GM at 18:49, Sun 16 June 2019.

Chye Isuel
 player, 1511 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 20:47
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Narrator (msg # 198):
a gruesome ending for broderick & co., and only one survivor!
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1230 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 23:35
Re: Out of Character 8
"That's the usual number."  Said Golias to Silverlock...
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1643 posts
 blue haired
 mountain elf
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 05:26
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 200):

Nasty indeed. It seemed like a sudden end...
Grimaldi
 player, 437 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 05:51
Re: Out of Character 8
All that gold just waiting there!
Narrator
 GM, 6478 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:12
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Grimaldi (msg # 202):

I am leaving it exactly like that for the tabletop group in August. They will be 2-3 weeks into the future...
Grimaldi
 player, 438 posts
 Aralaise adventurer
 swordsman and wizard
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:18
Re: Out of Character 8
haha if we run into their zombies, that'd be icing on the cake.
Leroy du Lac
 player, 7 posts
 Mercenary Man-At-Arms
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:29
Re: Out of Character 8
I'm to meet up with the dismal tower group, when you leave there.
Balir Ironhide
 player, 135 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 16:47
Re: Out of Character 8
I didn't get all the back histories done yesterday - came down a bit ill so i was just happy to finish the work day.
Darius Kopaki
 player, 151 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 08:07
Re: Out of Character 8
As seen by my posting, I am back - and apparently I did miss quite some unpleasantness. I'm quite sorry, Gwythaint, that you had to deal with that - given that you spend so much time on creating such an extensive and excellent game, I really wish you the most excellent and cooperative players.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1512 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 09:40
Re: Out of Character 8
same, sorry that guy was such a waste of time!
Narrator
 GM, 6484 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 20:55
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 208):

I should be back posting tomorrow.

In the meantime,

https://gwythaintny.wordpress....ng-from-bad-players/
Darius Kopaki
 player, 152 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Thu 20 Jun 2019
at 14:27
Re: Out of Character 8
Wow. I mean, just wow.

Particularly after all the work you poured into accommodating them. Again, I'm quite sorry for that.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1513 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Thu 20 Jun 2019
at 17:39
Re: Out of Character 8
well, if he tries to come back under another name, his style and methods will give him away. he can't help himself, apparently.
Narrator
 GM, 6487 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 21 Jun 2019
at 20:23
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 211):

Work has been a bit rough lately, mightnot get to posting until Sunday.

Happy Solstice all!
Balir Ironhide
 player, 138 posts
 Dwarf
 Warrior
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 18:01
Re: Out of Character 8
I still owe you a historical read-up on a couple characters.  It's on the to-do list.  Was training a co-worker for the last 2 weeks, and I didn't anticipate it being that involved.  Should be done in the next day or three.
Narrator
 GM, 6492 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 24 Jun 2019
at 23:41
Re: Out of Character 8
In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 213):

One of the OR techs at my job had a heart attack a few weeks ago (he's doing fine, but will be out of work for months), and they have been pulling me out of my usual workspace where things are slow enough that I can post regularly, and having me run set up and imaging in surgery, and chase after portable post operative cases.
 Now I frequently crank out a lot of portable exams when I am assigned  to that detail, but I generally build my own workflow; when I am in the OR, everything is pager driven, and absolutely infuriating.

(This is a little more than my typical "work has been busy" comment, but y'all have been watching my posting become erratic, so here is why. That and my wife has been working from home, so the time difference between our shifts has been gone from my posting schedule.)

Anyway, I'll  be back tomorrow...
Brodak
 player, 342 posts
 orc warrior
 brutish but honorable
Tue 25 Jun 2019
at 02:21
Re: Out of Character 8
Sounds like the sort of work that causes people to go Postal!