Balar's Hoard.   Posted by Narrator.Group: 0
Darius Kopaki
 player, 162 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 19:49
Re: Balar's Hoard
Darius shook his head. "And if they rewrite any contracts, they're not going to give them to us.
 That makes turning him in both altruistically and egoistically the better choice."
He smiled. "However, I will support the majority opinion."

This message was last edited by the GM at 01:52, Mon 26 Aug 2019.

Dne Utrotare
 player, 164 posts
 Anyone
 down there?
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 20:20
Re: Balar's Hoard
“I’m not in the habit of turning my prey over to its fellow worms.  Thus, you have my vote.”
Masugatan
 player, 281 posts
 street thug
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 20:21
Re: Balar's Hoard
“I gotta side with freakbeak on this one.  Sorry, Reanna.”
Melchizidek
 player, 758 posts
Wed 21 Aug 2019
at 20:33
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Masugatan (msg # 175):

"I am in favour of justice, not necessarily vengeance.
I would want evidence from Reanna justice would be served, and from the others
that those he was handed to would limit their vengeance to what is just.
"

This message was last edited by the GM at 01:52, Mon 26 Aug 2019.

Narrator
 GM, 6688 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 02:03
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Melchizidek (msg # 176):

Just to recall things; Balar is permanantly crippled, his associate may not live the night, all of their worldly goods are forfeit.  The only "Contract" on him was a wanted poster that said the bounty was payable upon him and his associates (or proof of their demise) to a ranking guild member.



To further things, regarding the worship of Helios, the god has spheres of good, light, Music and healing, and is not inclined to funeral pyres; the faith was inclined to have burials.


As to the bodies in the pit, no attempt has been made to identify them for their families, who might want some closure.

The local law, the Hadereum, actually has nothing to do with this; their jurisdiction ends at the city gates. bringing them into it is likely to lead to sudden taxation of found goods.

Killing him or turning him in to "Proper authorities" will end up with the pot being lessened considerably.  Just the same, some folks have bloodlust.  turning him in to his co-conspirators, while not particularly honest, is bound to increase the cash return.

The question is: do you want to play a game of intrigue with the Merchant's Guild, which will necessitate joining either it (or the Hadereum, which I know is less likely), depending on your inclination. On the other hand, there is now a void to be filled in terms of accosting the folks on this road...
Melchizidek
 player, 759 posts
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 07:47
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Narrator (msg # 177):

Melchizadek, for his part, is torn between trying to keep these criminals alive, for they may yet be redeemed, and giving a proper burial to all the dead. I believe a body part (hand?) was taken from each to identify them, though I also believe that there were some of their victims also in the pit before we got there. Melchizadek would want all identified and properly buried, but remains with the barely living to try to increase their chances of survival. Speaking of which, he will check on both of them to see if their survival chances can be increased. He has already sense some would like to kill them...

Why would he need to join the merchants guild? He was planning on just handing the prisoner over to the conspiratory Merchant guild member, collecting the cash and then departing?

This message was last edited by the player at 07:50, Mon 26 Aug 2019.

Reanna Draegan
 player, 393 posts
 Burglar, scout
 Rank 2 Admin badge
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 07:54
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Melchizidek (msg # 178):

Reanna cares little for intrigue, but cares a lot for cash! She is also not a big fan of Taxes...so is keen to keep the Haderaum out of this. Got wanted poster, got persons, ready to collect from whoever pays more. Combat is over now, sate your bloodlust elsewhere...

Becoming the bandits? Why? Let the bandits collect the pittance, and when they have gathered enough, go and take them out, take all their ill-gotten gains and then collect a reward as a bonus. Why settle for one paycheck when you can get 2, and be considered the good guy at the same time? [Sounds like I should be recruiting for the police department...]
Dne Utrotare
 player, 165 posts
 Anyone
 down there?
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 08:30
Re: Balar's Hoard
As to the bodies in the pit, no attempt has been made to identify them for their families, who might want some closure.

Isn’t this a strangely modern way to look at the situation?  I doubt that people in a quasi-medieval setting are interested in ‘closure.’
Masugatan
 player, 282 posts
 street thug
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 08:32
Re: Balar's Hoard
I feel like I’m being plot-rollered, but if turning Balar over to his friends will move things along, so be it.
Melchizidek
 player, 760 posts
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 08:49
Re: Balar's Hoard
Dne Utrotare:
Isn’t this a strangely modern way to look at the situation?  I doubt that people in a quasi-medieval setting are interested in ‘closure.’


Really? The catholic church made squillions throughout the middle ages selling just that...
Narrator
 GM, 6702 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 13:33
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Melchizidek (msg # 182):

Less "closure" more probate and inheritance, and possible reward for the info (reward coming from the heir most benefitting the demise)

If trying to weed out who did what in the Merchant's guild, and do "the right thing" it would necessitate T least the tokens of membership in it to investigate.

Naturally, I need notice if you want to do that, si I can plan things. It was an option. Just laying out some potential choices, which various character disads will affect.

This message was last edited by the GM at 13:36, Mon 26 Aug 2019.

Aegis
 player, 244 posts
 Veteran Mercenary
 Master-at-Arms
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 17:04
Re: Balar's Hoard
OOC Aegis cares nothing for Balar, nor for any of the politics that are in deeper discussion right now.  He's a simple man.  Drink, money, whorehouse...rinse and repeat.  He's be for getting the most money he can for Balar, and that's where he stops caring and starts drinking.

This message was last edited by the player at 17:04, Mon 26 Aug 2019.

Darius Kopaki
 player, 163 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 18:18
Re: Balar's Hoard
OOC: Darius would prefer handing Balar in to whoever isn't part of the conspiracy, for moral reasons. He's not motivated to go after the conspiracy at the moment.
However, if the others decide to hand him to his friends, he will go along.
Dne Utrotare
 player, 166 posts
 Anyone
 down there?
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 21:07
Re: Balar's Hoard
quote:
Less "closure" more probate and inheritance, and possible reward for the info (reward coming from the heir most benefitting the demise)


Ah.  Now that makes sense.
Masugatan
 player, 283 posts
 street thug
Mon 26 Aug 2019
at 21:10
Re: Balar's Hoard
(I think I just sent a reply as a private message by accident.  Sorry.)

In light of this, perhaps we should haul the bodies back, if possible?
Reanna Draegan
 player, 394 posts
 Burglar, scout
 Rank 2 Admin badge
Tue 27 Aug 2019
at 07:33
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Masugatan (msg # 187):

And just how do you plan to haul back, oh, at least 20 bodies?? I am not interested in paying for that...bury them I say.
Masugatan
 player, 284 posts
 street thug
Wed 28 Aug 2019
at 04:48
Re: Balar's Hoard
Then why bother to bury them?  Nobody’s paying for that, either.

This message was last edited by the player at 04:49, Wed 28 Aug 2019.

Melchizidek
 player, 761 posts
Wed 28 Aug 2019
at 09:42
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Masugatan (msg # 189):

"No, but not giving a proper burial can result in restless spirits. Not something I would be wanting..."
Masugatan
 player, 285 posts
 street thug
Wed 28 Aug 2019
at 21:57
Re: Balar's Hoard
Masugatan rolls his eyes.  But he is willing to assist in the burial, if it will get things moving.
Dne Utrotare
 player, 167 posts
 Anyone
 down there?
Wed 28 Aug 2019
at 21:57
Re: Balar's Hoard
Dne searches the ground for a juicy worm.  Not that he would literally eat it.
Narrator
 GM, 6712 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 02:12
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Dne Utrotare (msg # 192):

The loamy soil looks like it might be rich with worms.


There are three pits covered with trapdoors that could probably fit the bodies and make it harder for them to, say wander into town?


Final rest is a fatigue heavy spell that takes an hour or so per person buried.
Melchizidek
 player, 762 posts
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 07:31
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Narrator (msg # 193):

By the time you factor in energy recovery and healing, it would require about 4 hours to cast the spell and then recover, and you could only do so 2-3 times per day due to having to heal oneself each time. Hence, perhaps 12 hours to bury 3 individuals with the spell 'final rest' before having to sleep the night. Not very practical.

But the pits would be best kept for the bandits. Melchizadek would want proper burials for their victims...

Can we fast forward a couple of hours and say we buried the bandit's victims (the bodies in the bottom of the pits when we got there) and then buried the hamstrung bandits in the mass pit (I seem to remember they had already been hamstrung and decapitated) before moving back towards town?
Aegis
 player, 247 posts
 Veteran Mercenary
 Master-at-Arms
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 14:16
Re: Balar's Hoard
OOC I'm fine with any and all of that.  Aegis isn't really doing much more than pissing everyone off.  Now that's his job and all, but still...  Probably tiresome for the rest of the players.
Darius Kopaki
 player, 164 posts
 Guild Necromancer
Thu 29 Aug 2019
at 15:50
Re: Balar's Hoard
Since Darius' proposal to resurrect everyone and let them walk themselves to the city gates probably will not find enthusiastic approval, I'm fine with skipping a few hours.
Narrator
 GM, 6726 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Fri 30 Aug 2019
at 17:00
Re: Balar's Hoard
In reply to Darius Kopaki (msg # 196):

With the bandits in the pits, I need a HT roll (for getting that close) and then a search roll, (to find identifiers, like merchants guild tokens) place a marker (pile of rocks) and let the families pay for anything more. Melchizidek's religion is really not focused on funerary things, good, sunlight and healing. The dead are not in your wheelhouse.