Returned from the Abbey   Posted by Narrator.Group: 0
Narrator
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Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 14:13
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 57):

Choose how you pay out the torchbearer, then divide the remaining cash by 7. The most he would get is a quarter share; if so divide by 7.25.
The value of the items can be subtracted from each share.

The books get to be used, then sold; divide the total value of books by seven, and let folks take the books as a share, to resell later.

The ressurrection scroll is a whole other matter; it needs 300 FP to activate,  so it needs a dedicated circle to use it.
Stenet Fjall
 player, 307 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 15:07
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
The ressurrection scroll is a whole other matter; it needs 300 FP to activate,  so it needs a dedicated circle to use it.

What Resurrection Scroll?  No such scroll was listed (I'm guessing it's in the book Finality of the Flesh).

Regardless, it should cost 20$ per point, so 600$, and resell* for $240.  I'll add it to my spreadsheet.



* Barring any intervention like Merchant rolls, someone buying up Wealth, some other rolls to find specific better buyers, or some such.

This message was last edited by the player at 15:21, Fri 20 Dec 2019.

Stenet Fjall
 player, 308 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 15:19
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
The fine, pussiant 2 handed mace has the sale price of 40% of its worth; the base cost iirc was $80 +cF 4 for a total of $400 pre enchantment.

Fine is a +2 CF for crushing melee weapons.  So I take it I should adjust it down on my spreadsheet.


Did you mean that Long Knives are priced at $200 in this game not the $120 from DFRPP and Low Tech?


quote:
Songs on high is a primer of triunist hymns, worth 80% to triunists, and 40% of that to anyone else
...
The ways of True worship is a thesis on triunist religious ritual good for 4 points. These items, as all triunist items, are worth 80% to triunists, 40% to anyone else.

I don't know that I'd do that... unless there is a cost inherent cost in to trying to find a Triunist buyer (like it takes time + money spent + requires a roll which can be blown; Propaganda is the usual DF roll for "advertising for a buyer"), as this is ostensibly DF.


quote:
The wine should all be worth $64 per bottle

Added to my spreadsheet.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:02, Fri 20 Dec 2019.

Stenet Fjall
 player, 309 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 16:01
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Updated Spreadsheet.

ItemQuantityUnit PriceTotalResale ValueNotes
Shortbows6$50.00$300.00$120.00*
Quivers6$20.00$120.00$48.00*
Arrows60$2.00$120.00$48.00*
Shortswords6$40.00$240.00$96.00*
Long knives6$120.00$720.00$288.00*
Daggers6$20.00$120.00$48.00*
Medium Shields6$60.00$360.00$144.00*
Chainmail, Suits of6$2,700.00$16,200.00$6,480.00*
Light Plate, Cuirasses6$630.00$3,780.00$1,512.00*
Plate Mail, Suit of1$6,625.00$6,625.00$2,650.00Damaged neck armor, no helm, otherwise *
Fine Maul of Smiting (+1 Puissant)1$5,400.00$5,400.00$2,160.00*
Damaged Silver Plates, 1lb each6$4,000.00$24,000.00$9,600.00 
Amulet +3 vs Evil1$2,500.00$2,500.00$1,000.00 
Gilt Candlesticks2$40.00$80.00$32.00 
Anti-demon candles12$100.00$1,200.00$480.00 
Cheap anti-demon candles8$50.00$400.00$160.00 
Wooden box1$20.00$20.00$8.00 
Tin and Brass decorated box1$50.00$50.00$20.00 
24 bottles of Fine Wine24$64$1,536.00$614.40 
Large potion of  Minor Healing (4x1d dose)1$480.00$480.00$192.00 
Three Faces3$50.00$150.00$60.00Textbook, Theology (Triunism) [1]
Songs on High3$25.00$75.00$30.00Hymnal [1]
The Ways of True Worship1$400.00$400.00$160.00Adv. Text, Religious Ritual [1]
unnamed, undescribed1$100.00$100.00$40.00Textbook, Occultism
Magical Theory for the Neophyte1$50.00$50.00$20.00Primer, Thaumatology
slim black book1$75.00$75.00$30.00Primer, Demonology
Practical Conjuration1$200.00$200.00$80.00Spellbook, allows the purchase of Perk: Homegrown Demonologist, and the Summon Demon spell
The Unseen World1$100.00$100.00$40.00Textbook, Hidden Lore (Demons)
Unseen But Not Unheard1$75.00$75.00$30.00Primer, Hidden Lore (Spirits)
demonskin book1$1,600.00$1,600.00$640.00Adv. Text, Hidden Lore (Demons), Spellbook, see msg #27 of the Returned from the Abbey thread, +1 Quality Value
The Wonders of Creation1$400.00$400.00$160.00Adv. Text, Expert Skill (Natural Philosophy)
Illuminated Scripture of the Blessed Triskelon1$1,000.00$1,000.00$400.00Textbook, Theology (Triunism) [1]
The Guild Book of Secrets of the Second Order1$200.00$200.00$80.00Spellbook, see msg #27 of the Returned from the Abbey thread [1]
Herbary1$50.00$50.00$20.00Textbook, may split points among; Herb Lore, Gardening, and Pharmacy (Herbalist)
Book of Binding and Bleeding1$25.00$25.00$10.00Primer, First Aid
The Four Humors and Their Balance1$150.00$150.00$60.00Adv Text, Esoteric Medicine (Holy)
Finality of the Flesh1$80.00$80.00$32.00Primer, Expert Skill (Thanatology)
Scroll of Final Rest4$200.00$800.00$320.00*
Scroll of Protection vs Evil (Charged, 6 points)1$300.00$300.00$120.00*
Scroll of Summoning a Divine Being1$560.00$560.00$224.00*
Scroll of Resurrection1$10,000$10,000$4,000*
Coinage 11 royals (gp), 7 francs (sp), 23 bits (cp)1043  $1,043.00*
   TotalResale Value 
   $73,241.00$30,339.40 
Walter's cut   $450 
Total   $33,649.40 
Shares 7 ways   $4,807.06 

Training allowances:  Primer, 1 point; Textbook, 2 points, Adv. Text, 4 points; Spellbooks allow 1 point per spell only in spells named.

* - Standard DFRPG Pricing.  Anything not marked as such is taken straight from gwythaint's prices, some because I couldn't be arsed to track it down (the prices of books as per DF 4 Sages) and some because I couldn't be arsed to try to figure out where the price might have come from (Amulet of Evil Resistance +3).

[1] - All book prices presume not bothering to find specific buyers (since there are four books (possibly five) that could have added value and I didn't feel like getting into a prolonged back and forth).


For the record, this split leaves $6.40 on the table for adding to Walter's pay (ain't we fucking generous ;) ).

Stenet will argue that Walter get paid his agreed upon rate and no more (Greedy Disad).


[EDIT]
I've already found (and fixed) two errors in editing the prices, and my brain and eyes are stupidly tired, so give this a critical eye.  But, that said, I think all the prices are as correct as possible.

Fixed price of Resurrection Scroll.
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This message was last edited by the player at 03:36, Tue 24 Dec 2019.

Narrator
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Fri 20 Dec 2019
at 20:55
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Thank you. Some of my accounti g errors are ovrr a year old, the book pricing was from treasure tables, as were a number of others.
Tge amulet of demon resistance is new, I reverse engineered the price of a 5 point advantage with comparable values of other items in DFRPG Magic Items.
Stenet Fjall
 player, 309 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Sat 21 Dec 2019
at 03:17
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
Thank you. Some of my accounti g errors are ovrr a year old, the book pricing was from treasure tables, as were a number of others.

Understood.  I've yet to run a pbp... I can't even imagine trying to keep things like that straight from some many years ago.

quote:
Tge amulet of demon resistance is new, I reverse engineered the price of a 5 point advantage with comparable values of other items in DFRPG Magic Items.

Ah.  I wasn't even going to try to reverse engineer the price.  It was less than an Amulet of WillPower +3 ($15K) so I figured it was kosher.  Heck, even if it was more than an Amulet of Will +3, if it could stack with a [Item] of Will +3 it'd be worth it.


[EDIT]
Posted using wrong character.  Sigh, and I even have it set so I have to deliberately chose the character every time I post to avoid this this.
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This message was last edited by the player at 03:17, Sat 21 Dec 2019.

Christine Bjorn
 player, 1734 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Mon 23 Dec 2019
at 09:17
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Stenet Fjall (msg # 63):

So that is $4,269 each using 40% of the base price for most items? Cool with that. Just the question of setting up a library...
Stenet Fjall
 player, 310 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Mon 23 Dec 2019
at 11:46
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Christine Bjorn:
So that is $4,269 each using 40% of the base price for most items? Cool with that. Just the question of setting up a library...

That's with everything (including books) being sold.

If you're choosing not to sell something (ie keeping it yourself), remove its cost your share.  If a group is going in on a library, pool the cost of the books, split that, and then remove that from your share (and each person going in on a library).
Narrator
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Mon 23 Dec 2019
at 20:16
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Stenet Fjall (msg # 65):

That is why I had the books as a separate listing. It works to tr3at 5hem as part of a share so you can save or sell.


Wghat of the scrolls? The ressurrection scroll is worth $10k,  (4k sold) and could be traded for an advantage with the triunists. The hadereum would pay for its destruction,
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1735 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 03:26
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Narrator (msg # 66):

Exactly. Though because we have only accounted for 40% of the items value, that is the value to remove from your share. I would suggest selling the resurrection scroll to the triunists...unless someone wants it as a significant part of their share!

I mentioned which of the other scrolls I wanted to keep. We also need to sort out the Library...
Stenet Fjall
 player, 311 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 03:37
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
That is why I had the books as a separate listing.

Except if we do that Stenet's share drops below what is needed to repair and claim the armor...

So Stenet will have to decline to... hang on, I just noticed something.

quote:
Wghat of the scrolls? The ressurrection scroll is worth $10k,  (4k sold) and could be traded for an advantage with the triunists. The hadereum would pay for its destruction,

Where is that price coming from?  I won't argue if you want to give that to us... but it's not a price as set by the books...

Okay.  Hang on, I can back engineer this.  I forgot DFRPG sets Resurrection as a service at $15k,  so as a service it's charging $50 per point, where normal spells charge $5/point.  So an uncharged scroll should... /squints... well... $6k is close enough, so I accept the $10K and have adjusted the above chart with our slightly increased shares.

If y'all would like to finalize a list of books to keep, I can figure out the share cost.





Christine Bjorn:
I mentioned which of the other scrolls I wanted to keep. We also need to sort out the Library...

I didn't see any mention of scrolls in your previous posts, but that really doesn't change shares.
Stenet Fjall
 player, 312 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 03:44
Re: Returned from the Abbey
How much would repairing the armor cost?  The difference between the damaged value and a full value (which is $250)?
Narrator
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Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 16:08
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Stenet Fjall (msg # 69):

The armor is human sized, refitting it for a dwarf would cost 20% of its current value, with the need of buying a a helmet at normal rates. if it was your size, cost of living would cover repairs.
Stenet Fjall
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 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Tue 24 Dec 2019
at 17:08
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
The armor is human sized, refitting it for a dwarf would cost 20% of its current value, with the need of buying a a helmet at normal rates. if it was your size, cost of living would cover repairs.

So... once it's resized it's also repaired?
Narrator
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Wed 25 Dec 2019
at 00:18
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Stenet Fjall (msg # 71):

There are dents made when Jednessa slammed the cleric in the armor, and, then ripped off 5he head. The cost of resizing will repair as well, just the helmet needs replacing.
Stenet Fjall
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 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Wed 25 Dec 2019
at 05:55
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
The cost of resizing will repair as well...

Eggsalad!

quote:
...just the helmet needs replacing.

Stenet already has a helm, although it's Light Plate... I'll double check the math and how much his share would be after a library is accounted for.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1737 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 25 Dec 2019
at 09:40
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Christine Bjorn:
In reply to Narrator (msg # 27):

Christine would want to keep the following:

The Guild book of secrets of the Second order: spells
---detect madic, seek magic, dispel magic, magelock, light, continual light, magelight, continual magelight, magesight, identify spell, analyze magic, seek air, seek earth, seek water, ignite fire, spellshield, scryguard, pentagram.

An Herbary- herbary up to 2 points

Unnamed occult textbook -occultism, up to 2 points

Demonskin book- Hidden lore, demonology up to 4 points, +1 quality,
----Sense Spirit, summon spirit, materialize, solidify, Summon Demon and
  Pentagram spells

She would want to study and then sell:

Unseen but not Unheard-hidden lore:spirits 1 point

Black book-Hidden Lore, Demonology 1 point

A Booke of the Finality of Flesh- Thanatology 1 point


Reminder, but there has been a lot of discussion since this was posted. All of these are fine options for the library.

There was mention of Spider silk armour, +99 CF, applied to cloth Armour, cost $30, 6 lbs from Basics costing more. Is it possible to get the basic set of this that just covers Torso and groin for $3,000?

Also, can she get a Balanced Silver-coated Orichalcum Jo...
        2 lbs, $400, with Staff enchantment, holds up to 4 points as powerstone.
Stenet Fjall
 player, 315 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Wed 25 Dec 2019
at 16:45
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Christine Bjorn:
Christine Bjorn:
Christine would want to keep the following:

Reminder, but there has been a lot of discussion since this was posted. All of these are fine options for the library.

Yeah, which is why I'm double checking.  Did the assembled just want to save a few books aside or most of them, and whom all is in?
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1738 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 25 Dec 2019
at 22:45
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Stenet Fjall (msg # 75):

We have not really worked out the Library and that seems to be the discussion here...
Razael
 player, 8 posts
 Demon hunter
Thu 26 Dec 2019
at 03:51
Re: Returned from the Abbey
I am in and I think between Christine and I, we want all of the books except the Triunist ones.
Narrator
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Sat 28 Dec 2019
at 21:01
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Razael (msg # 77):

Sell those to father Robard at 80% and divide that evenly. Bartering the ressurrection scroll can get you each a 3 point blessing and a remove curse or restoration on reserve,
Razael
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 Demon hunter
Sat 28 Dec 2019
at 21:07
Re: Returned from the Abbey
That sounds most propitious...
Stenet Fjall
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 Dwarf Holy Warrior
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Sat 28 Dec 2019
at 23:27
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Razael:
I am in and I think between Christine and I, we want all of the books except the Triunist ones.

So we're waiting on Dareos.

For the record, Stenet might go in on this if there's some sort of long term value to doing so.  He'd also argue for keeping at least one Triunist manual (probably the slimmest one).



Narrator:
Sell those to father Robard at 80% and divide that evenly. Bartering the ressurrection scroll can get you each a 3 point blessing and a remove curse or restoration on reserve,

Stenet sees no value in the supposed 'blessings' of foreign gods.


18:23, Today: Stenet Fjall rolled 13 using 3d6.  Trading Rez Scroll for non-fungible services.  Greed 12.


Also, note GM, in GURPS Magic a 3 point Blessing is more valuable than a Resurrection.  So if you actually mean 3 point Bless...  I think Stenet will reconsider, since a Resurrection is $15k (at that valuation rate a single 3 point Bless should be $25k, even a 2 point Blessing should be pretty up there - base $5 an FP is $250 per 2 point Blessing, and that's at the 'non-inflated' rate).  Unless Bless works differently in your campaign?

This message was last edited by the player at 23:52, Sat 28 Dec 2019.

Narrator
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Sun 29 Dec 2019
at 18:30
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Stenet Fjall (msg # 80):

Let's make that 2 point bless spells. Dareos is stepping off, and will be establishing a temple.
Razael
 player, 10 posts
 Demon hunter
Sun 29 Dec 2019
at 19:06
Re: Returned from the Abbey
OK, Stenet needs to pick one which we'll deduct from is take like we do all the others, then we'll take the rest to Father Robard.
I'll take them ... who else is interested in going?

Stenet Isn't a Triunist? I thought he was.