Returned from the Abbey   Posted by Narrator.Group: 0
Stenet Fjall
 player, 317 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Mon 30 Dec 2019
at 00:22
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Razael:
Stenet Isn't a Triunist? I thought he was.

No, Stenet is Dwarf.


(Not joking, his sheet says "Worships the dwarven gods", I'm still working out exactly what I think that means for him.  I'm leaning 'zen buddhist'+'shinto' revolving around the clan/family with clan and family saints who intervene with the PTB for the supplicant.)
Stenet Fjall
 player, 318 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Mon 30 Dec 2019
at 23:49
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
Dareos is stepping off, and will be establishing a temple.

So... then are we waiting on Malga'Mar?  Or are we down to three Players in this thread?
Narrator
 GM, 7190 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 23:29
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Stenet Fjall (msg # 84):

Mal'ga Mar left a couple years ago. It is the three of you, and it may be a good timee to merge with the foljs who took out Balar.
Razael
 player, 11 posts
 Demon hunter
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 23:33
Re: Returned from the Abbey
And I always thought he had an interesting character ... too bad.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1739 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 15:05
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Razael (msg # 86):

Can do, but with which group? The group doing the assassination, or the group looking for better moral work?

This message was last updated by the GM at 15:05, Wed 01 Jan.

Narrator
 GM, 7195 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 15:06
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 87):

Christine could fit the amoral group, Stenet might choose the other, depending on how he was recruited.
Razael
 player, 12 posts
 Demon hunter
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 17:42
Re: Returned from the Abbey
He will wait to see about the groups ...
Stenet Fjall
 player, 319 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 20:14
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
Mal'ga Mar left a couple years ago. It is the three of you, and it may be a good timee to merge with the foljs who took out Balar.

Okay, so Playerwise, it's just Stenet/Jednesa, Christine, and Razael remaining.

In that case, as long as we can see some profit* from the books in a Library, Stenet is in for donating them to, or helping create, a Library.


*  As in we get more than just the opportunity to "learn a skill up to [X] points".  For instance if we get lowered 'guild rates' on training costs in the future, or even the ability to toss a point towards "Guild Library Access" or something.

Jednesa doesn't really care and she won't be participating, so as a Player I expect she'll get paid her 'share' of the books value.

The following takes that into consideration:


ItemQuantityUnit PriceTotalResale ValueNotes
Shortbows6$50.00$300.00$120.00 
Quivers6$20.00$120.00$48.00 
Arrows60$2.00$120.00$48.00 
Shortswords6$400.00$2,400.00$960.00 
Long knives6$120.00$720.00$288.00 
Daggers6$20.00$120.00$48.00 
Medium Shields6$60.00$360.00$144.00 
Chainmail, Suits of6$2,700.00$16,200.00$6,480.00 
Light Plate, Cuirasses6$630.00$3,780.00$1,512.00 
Plate Mail, Suit of1$6,625.00$6,625.00$2,650.00Damaged neck armor, no helm
Fine Maul of Smiting (+1 Pussiant)1$5,240.00$5,240.00$2,096.00 
Damaged Silver Plates, 1lb each6$4,000.00$24,000.00$9,600.00 
Amulet +3 vs Evil1$2,500.00$2,500.00$1,000.00 
Gilt Candlesticks2$40.00$80.00$32.00 
Anti-demon candles12$100.00$1,200.00$480.00 
Cheap anti-demon candles8$50.00$400.00$160.00 
Wooden box1$20.00$20.00$8.00 
Tin and Brass decorated box1$50.00$50.00$20.00 
24 bottles of Fine Wine24$64.00$1,536.00$614.40 
Large potion of  Minor Healing (4x1d dose)1$480.00$480.00$192.00 
Three Faces1$50.00$50.00$20.00Textbook, Theology (Triunism)
unnamed, undescribed1$100.00$100.00$40.00Textbook, Occultism
Magical Theory for the Neophyte1$50.00$50.00$20.00Thaumatology, Primer
Slim black book1$75.00$75.00$30.00Primer, Demonology
Practical Conjuration1$200.00$200.00$80.00Spellbook, allows the purchase of Perk: Homegrown Demonologist, and the Summon Demon spell.
The Unseen World1$100.00$100.00$40.00Textbook, Hidden Lore (Demons)
Unseen But Not Unheard1$75.00$75.00$30.00Primer, Hidden Lore (Spirits)
demonskin book1$1,600.00$1,600.00$640.00Adv. Text, Hidden Lore (Demons), Spellbook, see msg #27 of the Returned from the Abbey thread
The Wonders of Creation1$400.00$400.00$160.00Advanced Text, Expert Skill (Natural Philosophy)
The Guild Book of Secrets of the Second Order1$200.00$200.00$80.00Spellbook, see msg #27 of the Returned from the Abbey thread
Herbary1$50.00$50.00$20.00Textbook, may split points among; Herb Lore, Gardening, and Pharmacy (Herbalist)
Book of Binding and Bleeding1$25.00$25.00$10.00Primer, First Aid
The Four Humors and Their Balance1$150.00$150.00$60.00Adv Text, Esoteric Medicine (Holy)
Finality of the Flesh1$80.00$80.00$32.00Primer, Primer, Expert Skill (Thanatology)
Final Rest4$200.00$800.00$320.00 
Protection vs Evil (Charged, 6 points)1$300.00$300.00$120.00 
Scroll of Summoning a Divine Being1$560.00$560.00$224.00 
Three Faces2$50.00$100.00$40.00Textbook, Theology (Triunism) [1]
Songs on High3$25.00$75.00$60.00Hymnal, Triunism [1]
The Ways of True Worship1$400.00$400.00$320.00Adv. Text, Religious Ritual (Triunism) [1]
Illuminated Scripture of the Blessed Triskelon1$1,000.00$1,000.00$800.00Textbook, Theology (Triunism) [1]
Coinage 11 royals (gp), 7 francs (sp), 23 bits (cp)   $1,043.00 
   $72,641.00$30,689.40 
Walter's Share   -$450.00 
Jednesa's Share of Unsold Books   -$180.29 
Total Value of Loot   $28,797.11 
Amount of Full Share   $4,113.87[2]

Books Unsold for LibraryQuantityUnit PriceTotalResale ValueNotes
Scroll of Resurrection1$10,000.00$10,000.00$4,000.00 
Three Faces1$50.00$50.00$20.00Textbook, Theology (Triunism)
unnamed, undescribed1$100.00$100.00$40.00Textbook, Occultism
Magical Theory for the Neophyte1$50.00$50.00$20.00Thaumatology, Primer
Slim black book1$75.00$75.00$30.00Primer, Demonology
Practical Conjuration1$200.00$200.00$80.00Spellbook, allows the purchase of Perk: Homegrown Demonologist, and the Summon Demon spell
The Unseen World1$100.00$100.00$40.00Textbook, Hidden Lore (Demons)
Unseen But Not Unheard1$75.00$75.00$30.00Primer, Hidden Lore (Spirits)
demonskin book1$1,600.00$1,600.00$640.00Adv. Text, Hidden Lore (Demons), Spellbook, see msg #27 of the Returned from the Abbey thread
The Wonders of Creation1$400.00$400.00$160.00Advanced Text, Expert Skill (Natural Philosophy)
The Guild Book of Secrets of the Second Order1$200.00$200.00$80.00Spellbook, see msg #27 of the Returned from the Abbey thread
Herbary1$50.00$50.00$20.00Textbook, may split points among; Herb Lore, Gardening, and Pharmacy (Herbalist)
Book of Binding and Bleeding1$25.00$25.00$10.00Primer, First Aid
The Four Humors and Their Balance1$150.00$150.00$60.00Adv Text, Esoteric Medicine (Holy)
Finality of the Flesh1$80.00$80.00$32.00Primer, Primer, Expert Skill (Thanatology)
Total Value of Unsold Books   $1,262.00 
Jednesa's Share   $180.29 

Being Traded for ServiceQuantityUnit PriceTotalResale ValueNotes
Scroll of Resurrection1$10,000.00$10,000.00$4,000.00[3]


Training allowances:  Primer, 1 point; Textbook, 2 points, Adv. Text, 4 points; Spellbooks allow 1 point per spell only in spells named.

[1] Resale Value presumes finding a specific buyer.
[2] Jednesa gets an additional $180.29
[3] Being traded for 2 point Blessing


This spilt leaves no tip on the table for Walter.
Stenet will argue that Walter get paid his agreed upon rate and no more (Greedy Disad).


Stenet wishes to purchase the Suit of Plate from the group.  He can no longer afford to take anything else (the armor is putting him in the poor house, armor + repair/resizing is $4,306.25... which is more than his share of this haul).

Jednesa's Player argues she should get the Amulet of Resistance to Evil, and will pay the group for this.

If Christine is keeping The Guild Book of Secrets of the Second Order for herself completely, she'll need to indicate that, as it will slightly, very slightly, change the accounting (if it's going into the 'Library' then don't worry about it).  Despite it being of no "personal value" to Stenet, if it increases the value of the Library he's all about it.


Otherwise, if you want to 'purchase' something from the Loot, just deduct it's Resale Value from your Share.


[EDIT]
Had to spell Razael correctly.
[/EDIT]

This message was last edited by the player at 20:15, Wed 01 Jan.

Narrator
 GM, 7199 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Wed 1 Jan 2020
at 21:03
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Thank you for clarifying that, it takes me a device, a calculator,  and a pc to get close with that.
Razael
 player, 13 posts
 Demon hunter
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 00:41
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Razael wants access to The Guild Book of Secrets of the Second Order long enough to learn them and add them to his  grimoire.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1741 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 04:30
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Razael (msg # 92):

Christine is wanting all items for the Library, though she will study them herself. Once we sort out who is sponsoring what for the library, we can work out what we get individually yes? Is anyone putting cash towards a physical location for the library?
Stenet Fjall
 player, 320 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 05:09
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
Thank you for clarifying that, it takes me a device, a calculator,  and a pc to get close with that.

I used a potatoe* and Open Office.



* My computer is sooooooo old.
Stenet Fjall
 player, 321 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 05:12
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Christine Bjorn:
Is anyone putting cash towards a physical location for the library?

/Stenet laughs in dead broke...


My thoughts were running towards 'donating' them to the Guild and thus gaining some level of access to the Guild's 'library' (if nothing else Aethelbert should have a closet full of books that he charges Guildies to access).
Narrator
 GM, 7202 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 13:12
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Stenet Fjall (msg # 95):

Reading back trying to find the points (which were supplemented  up to around 10-11  iirc)
I saw something that was an error I missed

The silver plates count as bullion, or actual cash, and are worth a full $24k, and are not sold at 40%.

This message was last updated by the GM at 13:13, Thu 02 Jan.

Stenet Fjall
 player, 322 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 22:01
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Narrator:
The silver plates count as bullion, or actual cash, and are worth a full $24k, and are not sold at 40%.

Cool.  Y'all might notice I forgot to include our pay for item retrievals as well...  so... errr...

I'll just be a minute while I re-account the accounting.  Stenet might not be dead broke (unless he makes exactly $625 more, in which he's buying a swank new helmet too.  $875 and it's full face).
Razael
 player, 14 posts
 Demon hunter
Fri 3 Jan 2020
at 00:25
Re: Returned from the Abbey
I have enough to eat until we get paid ... then I will cheerfully contribute toward a library so long as I may have full access to everything in it. I am guessing that this Library may be a popular idea with other members of the guild and getting access to books may require being in a queue.
That way the GM can control mages who suddenly want to read/know everything overnight.
Stenet Fjall
 player, 324 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Fri 3 Jan 2020
at 22:43
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Before reacting to this windfall, I suggest we give gwythaint a moment to make sure my accounting is rightest as possible (though at this point I can't think of anything missed)...



ItemQuantityUnit PriceTotalResale ValueNotes
Shortbows6$50.00$300.00$120.00 
Quivers6$20.00$120.00$48.00 
Arrows60$2.00$120.00$48.00 
Shortswords6$400.00$2,400.00$960.00 
Long knives6$120.00$720.00$288.00 
Daggers6$20.00$120.00$48.00 
Medium Shields6$60.00$360.00$144.00 
Chainmail, Suits of6$2,700.00$16,200.00$6,480.00 
Light Plate, Cuirasses6$630.00$3,780.00$1,512.00 
Plate Mail, Suit of1$6,625.00$6,625.00$2,650.00Damaged neck armor, no helm
Fine Maul of Smiting (+1 Pussiant)1$5,240.00$5,240.00$2,096.00 
Amulet +3 vs Evil1$2,500.00$2,500.00$1,000.00 
Gilt Candlesticks2$40.00$80.00$32.00 
Anti-demon candles12$100.00$1,200.00$480.00 
Cheap anti-demon candles8$50.00$400.00$160.00 
Wooden box1$20.00$20.00$8.00 
Tin and Brass decorated box1$50.00$50.00$20.00 
24 bottles of Fine Wine24$64.00$1,536.00$614.40 
Large potion of  Minor Healing (4x1d dose)1$480.00$480.00$192.00 
Final Rest4$200.00$800.00$320.00 
Protection vs Evil (Charged, 6 points)1$300.00$300.00$120.00 
Scroll of Summoning a Divine Being1$560.00$560.00$224.00 
Three Faces2$50.00$100.00$40.00 
Songs on High3$25.00$75.00$30.00 
The Ways of True Worship1$400.00$400.00$160.00 
Illuminated Scripture of the Blessed Triskelon1$1,000.00$1,000.00$800.00 
Coinage 11 royals (gp), 7 francs (sp), 23 bits (cp)1$1,043.00$1,043.00$1,043.00 
Damaged Silver Plates, 1lb each6$4,000.00$24,000.00$24,000.00 
Item Recovery Fee  200 francs (sp)200$20.00$4,000.00$4,000.00 
Total Value of 'Sold' Loot   $47,637.40 
      
Amount of Loot Share   $6,805.34 
Walter's Share1-$450.00-$450.00-$450.00 
Jednesa's Share of Unsold Books1-$180.29-$180.29-$180.29 
Mission Pay 1k bits each1000$1.00$1,000.00$1,000.00 
      
Amount of Each Full Share   $7,175.05 

Books Unsold for LibraryQuantityUnit PriceTotalResale ValueNotes
Scroll of Resurrection1$10,000.00$10,000.00$4,000.00 
Three Faces1$50.00$50.00$20.00Textbook, Theology (Triunism)
unnamed, undescribed1$100.00$100.00$40.00Textbook, Occultism
Magical Theory for the Neophyte1$50.00$50.00$20.00Thaumatology, Primer
Slim black book1$75.00$75.00$30.00Primer, Demonology
Practical Conjuration1$200.00$200.00$80.00Spellbook, allows the purchase of Perk: Homegrown Demonologist, and the Summon Demon spell
The Unseen World1$100.00$100.00$40.00Textbook, Hidden Lore (Demons)
Unseen But Not Unheard1$75.00$75.00$30.00Primer, Hidden Lore (Spirits)
demonskin book1$1,600.00$1,600.00$640.00Adv. Text, Hidden Lore (Demons), Spellbook, see msg #27 of the Returned from the Abbey thread
The Wonders of Creation1$400.00$400.00$160.00Advanced Text, Expert Skill (Natural Philosophy)
The Guild Book of Secrets of the Second Order1$200.00$200.00$80.00Spellbook, see msg #27 of the Returned from the Abbey thread
Herbary1$50.00$50.00$20.00Textbook, may split points among; Herb Lore, Gardening, and Pharmacy (Herbalist)
Book of Binding and Bleeding1$25.00$25.00$10.00Primer, First Aid
The Four Humors and Their Balance1$150.00$150.00$60.00Adv Text, Esoteric Medicine (Holy)
Finality of the Flesh1$80.00$80.00$32.00Primer, Primer, Expert Skill (Thanatology)
Total Value of Unsold Books   $1,262.00 
Jednesa's Share   $180.29 

Being Traded for ServiceQuantityUnit PriceTotalResale ValueNotes
Scroll of Resurrection1$10,000.00$10,000.00$4,000.00[3]


Training allowances:  Primer, 1 point; Textbook, 2 points, Adv. Text, 4 points; Spellbooks allow 1 point per spell only in spells named.

[1] Resale Value presumes finding a specific buyer.
[2] Jednesa gets an additional $180.29
[3] Being traded for 2 point Blessing


This spilt leaves no tip on the table for Walter.
Stenet will argue that Walter get paid his agreed upon rate and no more (Greedy Disad).


Stenet wishes to purchase the Damaged Suit of Plate, half the 'good' Anti-Demon Candles (and the Tin and Brass box to carry them in), and the scrolls of Final Rest, Protection vs Evil, and Summoning a Divine Being from the loot.

Jednesa's Player argues she should get the Amulet of Resistance to Evil and the Large Potion of Minor Healing, and will pay the group for this.

Razael wanted the remainder of the Anti-demon candles.

Otherwise, if you want to 'purchase' something from the Loot, just deduct it's Resale Value from your Share, and mention it incase someone else wanted it...
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1744 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Fri 3 Jan 2020
at 23:15
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Christine would want to keep the following for the library.

I did not see the following in the list of books:

Unnamed occult textbook -occultism, up to 2 points

So we just calculate how many wish to contribute to the library, divide the cost of the library by that number and reduce out cash by that amount?

Christine will definitely want spider silk armour in that case!

I seem to have lost the thread where that was priced, but basically Christine would like the best spider silk armour she can afford, after paying for the Library and the Jo Below...

Also, can she get a Balanced Silver-coated Orichalcum Jo...
        2 lbs, $400, with Staff enchantment, holds up to 4 points as powerstone.
Razael
 player, 17 posts
 Demon hunter
Fri 3 Jan 2020
at 23:29
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Razael will ask for (again) the following books:

Magical Theory for the Neophyte
1
$50.00
$50.00
$20.00
Primer, Thaumatology

slim black book
1
$75.00
$75.00
$30.00
Primer, Demonology

Practical Conjuration
1
$200.00
$200.00
$80.00
Spellbook, allows the purchase of Perk: Homegrown Demonologist, and the Summon Demon spell

The Unseen World
1
$100.00
$100.00
$40.00
Textbook, Hidden Lore (Demons)

Anti-demon candles
6
$100.00
$1,200.00
$480.00
 
Cheap anti-demon candles
4
$50.00
$400.00
$160.00
 
And the wooden box to keep them in.

This would come to $498, he will agree to share access with others and/or place these in a Library.
He wants access to the The Guild book of secrets of the Second order: spells  for enough time to copy them to his Grimoire .

He would also take :
unnamed, undescribed
1
$100.00
$100.00
$40.00
Textbook, Occultism

Unseen But Not Unheard
1
$75.00
$75.00
$30.00
Primer, Hidden Lore (Spirits)

Herbary
1
$50.00
$50.00
$20.00
Textbook, may split points among; Herb Lore, Gardening, and Pharmacy (Herbalist)

These would be with the same offer as above, and would add $90 to his tab.
Dareos Madrigar
 player, 380 posts
 Dark One/Cleric o Sethygg
 HP 12/12 FP 12/12 PI15/15
Sat 4 Jan 2020
at 00:13
Re: Returned from the Abbey
"I'd like to spend some time with those books before they're released from our possession but I don't want to own any of them.  I'll take my share in coin to help with my status and holy mission."
Stenet Fjall
 player, 327 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Sat 4 Jan 2020
at 01:11
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Christine Bjorn:
Unnamed occult textbook -occultism, up to 2 points

It's listed as "unnamed, undescribed" and included in the list of books "For the Library".

In fact, every book that wasn't one of the "Triunist" religious texts (or hymnal) is in the "For the Library" (including the cheapest of the Triunist religious texts, just in case someone ever needs to study up).

quote:
So we just calculate how many wish to contribute to the library, divide the cost of the library by that number and reduce out cash by that amount?

Right now every single book is being set aside for the Library (except the Triunist books).  If you wish to "read it first" I'll leave that fight for the arena...

If Christine (or someone else) wants to keep some books for her(them)self, we'll have to figure that out separately.  But essentially it'll be "divide it it's sale between the other 6 people taken out of your share".

quote:
Christine will definitely want spider silk armour in that case!

I seem to have lost the thread where that was priced...

Head to toe Giant Spider Silk jammies are $15k.  GSS is CF x99, a suit of Cloth armor is $150.

quote:
Also, can she get a Balanced Silver-coated Orichalcum Jo...
        2 lbs, $400, with Staff enchantment, holds up to 4 points as powerstone.

You cannot Balance a "fist or stick weapon".  Jo staves are "stick weapons" regardless of material (by RAW).

You can't get the Staff enchantment on "non-organic" weapons.  Orichalcum is metal.

As for the first... as per Kromm it's because the cost of the base weapon is too low.  It is suggested that if a GM is going to allow it they raise the base cost of the stick or fist weapon to that of a "comparable" weapon. A Jo does sw+1 thr+1, the next closest two-handed weapon that is comparable is a Monk's Spade which costs $100.  So treat the Jo as costing $100 for the Balanced upgrade...  the other recommendation is apply the material cost first, then the Balance cost.

Instead of Orichalcum you want Dragonbone (from DF 8 Treasure Tables) so you can put Staff on it.

Dragonbone CF +24
Instead of wood for shafts and handles, weapons may be made with hard, lightweight, alchemically treated dragon bone, which is as durable as orichalcum. Dragonbone weapons and projectiles have the same benefits as orichalcum: They don’t break, and other weapons have a +2 chance of breaking when parrying a heavy dragonbone one. Dragon bone isn’t flexible, so bows may not be made from it.

Lastly, you want Sylvan...

Sylvan Staff: The hardest wood known to elf-kind has -1 to odds of breakage and can be made fine (+2 CF) for another -1 to odds of breakage. Its density concentrates the force of blows, giving +1 to damage as well! Wooden sticks (batons, light clubs, quarterstaffs, etc.) only: +15 CF.

Sylvan makes it 'Elven' for that valued 10% Elven price break you cheaty Elves get.

(Kromm has allowed that making a Sylvan Dragonbone Staff is perfectly okay if you want to drop the $$$ on it)

Also, Kromm allows any Sylvan staff to have Balanced added to it after Sylvan (so apply the x4CF to $150).


Other modifiers you may have skipped;

Fine CF+2, adds +1 damage and decreases breakage by 1; Ornate +4 or +9, if you're thinking about going for a Power Item why not go whole hog; Silvered CF+2, for that day when you just have to beat a Wight to death with your staff.

Note, as per DF 8, Silvered counts towards part of the pricing of Decorative Embellishments, so Silvered CF+2 is equal to Ornate CF+1 (so you can reduce the CF of Ornate by 1 if you also make the item Silvered).


So... to sum up...

A Fine Balanced Silvered Sylvan Dragonbone Jo Staff (with Staff) is only $1,080 and has a PF 8 (based on a non-Enchanted price of $1,040).

Slap some Ornate on there at +3 ($80) and you slide up into PF 9.  Add another $300 in "jewels or gilding or etc" and you can hit PF 10 (non-Enchanted value of $1,420, remember the Power item chart rounds up to the nearest value).


[Fine $20 + Balanced $600 + Silvered $20 + Sylvan $150 + Dragonbone $240 + Jo $10 + Staff Enchant $40 = $1,080]

I mean, you've got $7k and unless you saved up some serious dosh from the troll warrens ya ain't buying them Spider Silk jammies any time soon.
Stenet Fjall
 player, 328 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Sat 4 Jan 2020
at 01:25
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Razael:
Razael will ask for (again) the following books:

Since they're all going into the Library, they'll be plenty of time to read them.  Don't count them as 'anything' for 'shares' if you're plan is "read them, then put them in the Group Library".

Unless you want to own a book outright and not put it in the Library.  If so, I can recalculate for you (but I suspect Christine and Stenet might want an eyeball into those books as well).

quote:
Anti-demon candles
6
$100.00
$1,200.00
$480.00
 
Cheap anti-demon candles
4
$50.00
$400.00
$160.00
 
And the wooden box to keep them in.

This would come to $498, he will agree to share access with others and/or place these in a Library.

Six 'good' Anti-Demon candles come to $240*, four cheap Anti-Demon Candles come to $80* and the wooden box is $8*.

That's $328 out of your share, so just reduce your ahare by that much (so you're getting $6,847.05 instead of $7,175.05).


[EDIT]
Note, when I said Stenet wanted half the 'good' candles, I meant the not Cheap ones.  If you want all the not cheap ones, that's another $80 out of your share.
[/EDIT]

This message was last edited by the player at 01:28, Sat 04 Jan.

Razael
 player, 19 posts
 Demon hunter
Sat 4 Jan 2020
at 04:10
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Half of the cheap Candles should do...  Point with books taken.

Guess I could afford to go back and look for armor or the like.

Do they have a Lighter form of Brigandine? Say DR 3 and around 12-13 pound for body, 6 for Arms?

This message was last edited by the player at 04:32, Sat 04 Jan.

Stenet Fjall
 player, 329 posts
 Dwarf Holy Warrior
 HP: 12/13 FP: 13/17
Sat 4 Jan 2020
at 05:45
Re: Returned from the Abbey
Razael:
Guess I could afford to go back and look for armor or the like.

Do they have a Lighter form of Brigandine? Say DR 3 and around 12-13 pound for body, 6 for Arms?

gwythaint has the whole list here (https://drive.google.com/drive...CalsL1rQ11RbOGzZbhiS), but gwythaint's list is broken for me and might be for others.


ArmorDRHead (Full Face)BodyArmsHandsLegsFeetSuitNotes
Light Cloth, Leather, Furs1$13 (+$5)$53$25$5$37$17$150 
-----weight 1.5 (+0.6)6.330.64.52.118 
Heavy Cloth, Leather, Furs2$38 (+$15)$158$75$15$112$52$450 
weight 3 (+1.2)12.661.294.236 
Light Mail3/1$125 (+$50)$525$250$50$375$175$1,500[1, 2]
weight 3 (+1.2)12.661.294.236 
Light Scale3/2$80 (+$32)$336$160$32$240$112$960[1, 2]
weight 4 (+1.6)16.881.6125.648 
Light Segmented Plate3$150 (+$60)$630$300$60$450$210$1,800[2, 3]
weight 4 (+1.6)16.881.6125.648 
Mail4/2$225 (+$90)$945$450$90$675$315$2,700[1, 2]
weight 3.8 (+1.5)15.87.51.511.25.245 
Scale4/3$138 (+$55)$578$275$55$412$192$1,650[1, 2]
weight 7 (+2.8)29.4142.8219.884 
Segmented Plate4$225 (+$90)$945$450$90$675$315$2,700[2, 3]
weight 6 (+2.4)25.2122.4188.472 
Heavy Mail5/3$300 (+$120)$1,260$600$120$900$420$3,600[1, 2]
weight 4.5 (+1.8)18.991.813.56.354 
Heavy Scale5$275 (+$110)$1,155$550$110$825$385$3,300[2]
weight 10 (+4)422043014120 
Heavy Segmented Plate5$300 (+$120)$1,260$600$120$900$420$3,600[2, 3]
weight 8 (+3.2)33.6163.22411.296 
Brigandine5$450 (+$180)$1,890$900$180$1,350$630$5,400[2, 3]
weight 5 (+2)2110215760 
Plate6$625 (+$250)$2,625$1,250$250$1,875$875$7,500[2, 3]
weight 5 (+2)2110215760 
Heavy Plate7$750 (+$300)$3,150$1,500$300$2,250$1,050$9,000[2, 3]
weight 6 (+2.4)25.2122.4188.472 
Extra-Heavy Plate8$875 (+$350)$3,675$1,750$350$2,625$1,225$10,500[2, 3]
weight 7 (+2.8)29.4142.8219.884 
Epic Plate9$1,000 (+$400)$4,200$2,000$400$3,000$1,400$12,000[2, 3]
weight 8 (+3.2)33.6163.22411.296 

Notes
[1] Use lower DR against crushing attacks.
[2] Considered metal for the purposes of armor modifiers, lightning damage, reaction penalties in town, etc.
[3] Considered plate armor when adding armor modifiers or buying breastplates.


Armor Modifiers  (some of these modifiers are from my home game, but they were pulled from Low-Tech and DF 8 Treasure tables so the numbers are Kosher).

Armor – like weapons and shields – can have modifiers. These result in cost factors (CF) that affect price as explained for weapons: multiply list cost by (1 + total CF). Most are specific to particular kinds of armor!

Cheap: This might be mass-produced munitions armor, issued to an army’s rank and file; alternatively, the armor could be the work of an inexperienced armorer, or incorporate low-grade materials. Cheap armor has -1 DR. -0.6 CF; weight is unchanged.

Dark One Living Armor: Leather and scale. The result of magically assisted “genetic engineering,” this armor is a living colony of remarkable lichens that works to treat the wearer's injuries. After any cutting, impaling, or piercing injury to a location protected by the armor, roll 3d.  On 15 or less, a sticky secretion covers the wound; when the battle ends, the wearer instantly enjoys the benefits of bandaging. If a limb protected by such armor takes crippling injury, the wearer has +1 on the HT roll to determine the crippling wound's duration. +49 CF.

Dragonhide*: Heavy leather armor (DR 2) can be dragonhide. This provides from +1 to +4 DR, depending on the dragon, and double that DR bonus against fire. (Dragonhide with up to +7 DR – and unusual dragonhide that doubles its bonus vs. acid, cold, or other damage – exists but isn’t for sale.) It also gives ‑3 reactions from dragons! Weight and cost depend on DR bonus: +1 DR (+2 vs. fire) is 1.25¥ weight and +29 CF; +2 DR (+4 vs. fire) is 1.5¥ weight and +35 CF; +3 DR (+6 vs. fire) is 1.75¥ weight and +41 CF; and +4 DR (+8 vs. fire) is 2¥ weight and +47 CF.

Dwarven: Dwarves can forge DR 6-9 plate armor (note [3]) to be harder! This gives +1 DR without raising weight. +4 CF.

Elven: Elven mail uses the higher DR listed for the base armor against all damage – don’t reduce its DR vs. crushing attacks. Any mail: +3 CF.

Feathers:  Feathers can be woven into cloth armor, adds +1 DR versus light ranged weapons (ammo weight 1 lbs or less).  Counts as Ornate +1 (no further Ornate can be added).  Costs $2,000.

Fine*: Expertly fitted, with no waste material. Offers full DR at 3/4 of the usual weight. Only fits wearers whose height and weight match the original owner’s! Any armor: +9 CF.

Giant-Spider Silk: Improves light cloth armor (DR 1) to DR 2 without raising weight – and allows it to be worn under other armor (+2 DR) without -1 to DX for layering. +99 CF.

Highly Articulated:  Highly articulated armor is constructed with an extremely sophisticated set of overlapping layers or plates protecting joints and other vulnerable areas. Provides two-thirds rather than half DR against attacks to chinks in armor.  +19 CF.

Jazerant:  Mail sandwiched between two layers of padding and/or leather.  Holdout penalty is DR/3.  Add both mail and leather together to find base armor price, CF is the amount of Holdout penalty reduced.  All modifiers apply to this new Base Price.

Meteoric†: Resists magic as for the weapon modifier (p. 106). Any metal armor (note [2]): +19 CF.

Orichalcum*†: Gives full DR at just 1/3 of the usual weight! Any plate armor (note [3]): +29 CF.

Ornate‡: Dress to impress, exactly as for the weapon modifier (p. 106). Any armor or clothing: +1 to reactions for +1 CF, +2 for +4 CF, or +3 for +9 CF.

Slornhide (Leather of Quality):  Light and heavy leather armor can be made of Slorn hide, this leather is tougher than regular leather, +1 DR, for no extra weight.  Slorn are known to attack wearers of Slorn hide on sight and track those that escape them forever.  There are rumors of Slornhide armors made from old Slorn that have the same acid/fire resistance of the Slorn, if so see Dragonhide for pricing and weight increase.  +4 CF (+3 CF for Trolls).

Spiked: Every turn, roll DX-4 to stab each enemy in close combat with you as a free action; success deals 1d-2 impaling damage. In addition, anyone who strikes such armor with an unarmed attack takes this damage to the attacking body part – and if the attack is a bite, grapple, or anything under Slams, Tramples, and Overruns (Exploits, p. 40), the attacker suffers maximum damage (4 points). Any plate armor (note [3]) that covers the body or more: +2 CF.

Thieves’‡: Blackened mail woven for maximum flexibility, minimum noise. Find the total weight of your gear with and without this armor, and use weight without to figure encumbrance penalties (p. 12) to Acrobatics, Climbing, Stealth, and other skills (but not to Move or Dodge). Any mail: +3 CF.

* Weight effects multiply together; e.g., dragonhide with +4 DR (2¥ weight) of fine quality (3/4 weight), weighs 1.5 times as much as usual.

† Meteoric and orichalcum are mutually exclusive.

‡ Thieves’ mail cannot be ornate.
Narrator
 GM, 7225 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 4 Jan 2020
at 15:19
Re: Returned from the Abbey
In reply to Razael (msg # 105):

It is listed as light scale or light segmented plate.

https://drive.google.com/file/...17/view?usp=drivesdk