Against the Mageguild   Posted by Narrator.Group: 0
Narrator
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 roll for initiative!
Sat 14 Mar 2020
at 18:51
Re: Against the Mageguild
In reply to Dilandua (msg # 100):

Sorry, i was trying to oversimplify things. I have DF 17 (or 16? Wilderness) but was  on the train while trying to post.
I was looking at the slowest speed as the effective, which is mv4. Definitely,  you could advannce and scout for a better place, and even get to town ahead of everyone.

I will review and cut/paste the travel rules to be clear, probs tomorrow.

Scrounging finds objects. Survival both finds food, and campsites.
Dilandua
 player, 21 posts
 Shadow Elf
Sat 14 Mar 2020
at 23:39
Re: Against the Mageguild
Narrator:
Sorry, i was trying to oversimplify things.

No worries.



Reanna, Aegis, Dne, what is your Move and Encumbrance when carrying your minimum combat outfit?  How much extra could you carry and still be at that Move?

How much at your next Encumbrance level (and what are your rates)?

(I'm trying to figure out if we need to bother with a pack animal or if that's an expense we can skip.)


For example:

Dilandua, minimal fighting gear: Light Enc, Move 8.8.  Up to 5 more pounds (elves are weak).
Medium Enc, Move 6.6.  Can carry up to 13 more pounds (what noodly little arms they've got).

Reanna Draegan
 player, 455 posts
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Sun 15 Mar 2020
at 03:14
Re: Against the Mageguild
In reply to Dilandua (msg # 103):

If I can dump my Quarterstaff and pack, I am moving at 7, which would be my preference. Down to 5 if i pick up the quarterstaff though.
Dne Utrotare
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Sun 15 Mar 2020
at 16:50
Re: Against the Mageguild
OOC: Dnes basic move is 4.75 and he has six pounds to go before hes lightly encumbered.
Narrator
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 roll for initiative!
Tue 17 Mar 2020
at 19:50
Re: Against the Mageguild
In reply to Dne Utrotare (msg # 105):

Lets calculate how fast the slowest person is at light encumbrance,  (which should be the slowest dpeed of the group) and gear the others to match.
Dilandua
 player, 22 posts
 Shadow Elf
Tue 17 Mar 2020
at 20:42
Re: Against the Mageguild
Narrator:
Lets calculate how fast the slowest person is at light encumbrance...

At Light Enc, Dilandua Moves at 8.8.
Aegis
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Tue 17 Mar 2020
at 20:43
Re: Against the Mageguild
OOC I owe the GM a few things.  Will try to fire up the computer this evening and get some of that done, including this.  Aegis needs equipment for the trip, mostly food.
Dne Utrotare
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Wed 18 Mar 2020
at 03:29
Re: Against the Mageguild
Since you drop all fractions, my move at light encumbrance would be 3(?).  Fortunately, Im not that encumbered.
Reanna Draegan
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Wed 18 Mar 2020
at 06:37
Re: Against the Mageguild
In reply to Dne Utrotare (msg # 109):

Reanna at light encumbrance is at move 5.
Aegis
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Wed 18 Mar 2020
at 15:43
Re: Against the Mageguild
OOC I started looking at Aegis, and just his weapons have him almost at BL.  Most of his armor isn't even weighted, so I need to refer back to the books and add in that information.  He will probably need some significant adjustment to get the equipment managed.  His move starts at 7, so I would guess he should be no lower than a 5 once it's all said and done.
Narrator
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Wed 18 Mar 2020
at 17:56
Re: Against the Mageguild
In reply to Aegis (msg # 111):

This all idicates that Dne would be moving at 4 as is, which makes the slowest speed of the group.
Aegis
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Wed 18 Mar 2020
at 19:25
Re: Against the Mageguild
OOC  How big is Dne?  Flight?  Carry-able?
Aegis
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Thu 19 Mar 2020
at 02:17
Re: Against the Mageguild
OOC  Aegis will be at medium encumbrance during normal travel.  When carrying his backpack he will move 5.  At the first sign of trouble he'll drop his backpack, and then move at 6.

He has 12 rations already in his pack, and a canteen for water.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:18, Thu 19 Mar.

Dne Utrotare
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Thu 19 Mar 2020
at 02:43
Re: Against the Mageguild
Aegis:
OOC  How big is Dne?  Flight?  Carry-able?


OOC: In spite of his demonic-sounding voice and bird-like pretensions, Dne is just a man carrying 34 lbs. of equipment.  He walks on air but cannot fly.
Dilandua
 player, 23 posts
 Shadow Elf
Thu 19 Mar 2020
at 04:35
Re: Against the Mageguild
OOC:  Based on Dne's Move of 4 at Light Encumbrance, I (the Player) recommend the following:

Mule, $1000
Bridle and Bit, $35, 3 lbs.
Saddlebags, Hold 40 lbs. $100, 3 lbs.
Group Basics, $50, 20 lbs.
Barrel. Holds 5 gallons of liquid (40 lbs. if water). DR 1, HP 11. $65, 20 lbs.
Fodder, 20 meals*, $40, 10 lbs.
Rope, 20yds, supports 300lbs, $10, 3lbs.

Total cost:  $1300

This gives us each $75 to equip with.  If people want to go in for two-man or group tents, y'all have at it, Dilandua prefers a personal tent.



* It requires a successful Naturalist or Survival to be able to have the pack animals graze during downtime... so I figure we best expect to feed the beast for most of the way there and acquire fodder for the return trip once there.
Reanna Draegan
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Thu 19 Mar 2020
at 07:45
Re: Against the Mageguild
In reply to Dilandua (msg # 116):

For whatever we get, we should get the following:

Bridle            $10   2 lbs
Halter             $5   1.5 lbs     The best way to tie the animal up
Blanket           $25   2.5 lbs     To avoid wear
Horseshoes        $50   4 lbs       To avoid becoming lame on a long trip.

Small mules worth $1000,

Lift Capacity  <65   <130   <195   <390   <650
Move            8      6      4      3      1
Dodge           8      7      6      5      4


Saddle Horses worth $1200,

Lift Capacity  <88   <176   <264   <440   <880
Move            12     9      7      4      2
Dodge           8      7      6      5      4


Looking at carrying capacity with our slowest, and thinking of loot on the way home, the saddle horse is a much better deal...Reanna has some spare cash, she is willing to pay the extra $200 for a larger critter in exchange for an extra share of the loot brought home as a result!

She also has her own tent, so she is happy to go with that. And her own rope, and canteen...but she will want to put the pack weighing 36 lbs plus rations on the horse...
Dilandua
 player, 24 posts
 Shadow Elf
Thu 19 Mar 2020
at 11:02
Re: Against the Mageguild
There is already a bridle in my calculation, but I agree to add the following
Reanna Draegan:
Halter             $5   1.5 lbs     The best way to tie the animal up
Blanket           $25   2.5 lbs     To avoid wear
Horseshoes        $50   4 lbs       To avoid becoming lame on a long trip.


You don't need to go in for +$200 for a horse, there is cushion for that, new calculation is:

$1580

With $20 left over.  Which would most simply go for more rope (or spikes or something - looking towards 'ambush' supplies).

How much rope do you (Reanna, Dne, and Aegis) have before we buy more (as a group)?

quote:
...exchange for an extra share of the loot brought home as a result!

Won't be necessary.  And Dilandua wouldn't agree to it anyway (would agree to a loan from you of $150 with 10% interest though, Dilandua is equipped for the city, not camping out on the road...).

quote:
...she will want to put the pack weighing 36 lbs plus rations on the horse...

That is a given.  I suspect everyone will be stowing some portion of their gear on the pony.  At least until the trip home when it's loaded down with all the loot...
Aegis
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Thu 19 Mar 2020
at 15:10
Re: Against the Mageguild
Aegis has 10' of rope.  He will also spring for a tent and blanket.

Tent, 1-Man (TL0). Includes ropes; no poles needed. $50, 5 lbs.
Blanket (TL1). A warm sleeping blanket. $20, 4 lbs
Reanna Draegan
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Thu 19 Mar 2020
at 19:55
Re: Against the Mageguild
In reply to Aegis (msg # 119):

I have the following gear...

Iron Spike x4       2 lbs
Rope 3/8, 40 yds   6 lbs
File                1 lbs
Climbing Spikes     4 lbs
Grapnel             2 lbs
Candle, Beeswax     1 lbs
Alchemist's Matches 0.25 lbs
Canteen, water  3+2=5 lbs

You want the Bridle and Bit instead of just the bridle? Fine by me I spose...
Dilandua
 player, 25 posts
 Shadow Elf
Fri 20 Mar 2020
at 01:37
Re: Against the Mageguild
Reanna Draegan:
You want the Bridle and Bit instead of just the bridle? Fine by me I spose...

Bit and Bridle is necessary to avoid -3 to Handle Animal rolls as per DFRPG 16 Wilderness pg 19.

Not that any of us have Animal Handling... but every penalty counts...
Reanna Draegan
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Fri 20 Mar 2020
at 03:36
Re: Against the Mageguild
In reply to Dilandua (msg # 121):

The cleric that had animal handling disliked our morality. Bit and bridle, fine, but I thought that was just for riding.

So I just need to get my own food for the trip, then. 10 days was it?
Dne Utrotare
 player, 213 posts
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Fri 20 Mar 2020
at 17:57
Re: Against the Mageguild
I have no rope, and animals are afraid of me.
Dilandua
 player, 26 posts
 Shadow Elf
Fri 20 Mar 2020
at 20:32
Re: Against the Mageguild
Reanna Draegan:
So I just need to get my own food for the trip, then. 10 days was it?

7 there, 7 back.  Though that's an estimate to "Saint Remy" a small town the barmaid thinks they might pass through (which is roughly the halfway point).

So if we can get there in less than 7 days, great, we might have time to set up an ambush on the road into town from them.  If we tarry due to failed Hiking rolls, etc, then we might have to ambush them on this side of Saint Remy.  Which might not be a bad idea to plan for...

Okay so Aegis and Dne, sound off:  Are you two fine with the purchase of the mule and equipment and being self reliant for tents and food (note if Aegis grumbles about not being able to self provision, or some other noise, Reanna or Dilandua will probably be happy to set up provisions and camping equipment for him at a "reasonable fee")?

And everyone (weigh in on A or B):  We can either (A) try to press and make it to St Remy before them and ambush them right before, right after, or in town or (B) set up an ambush this side of St Remy (a few days out from Northport) with Dilandua scouting ahead to give us a few hours notice of their approach.


For my vote, I'm beginning to to think setting up 4 days out from Northport might be best... though it's not a strong inclination and I'll happily go with whatever the group thinks is best.
Aegis
 player, 309 posts
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Fri 20 Mar 2020
at 21:17
Re: Against the Mageguild
OOC  I think Aegis the character would expect all the organization to be handled for him.  He's just the mercenary, not the quartermaster.

As the player, I decided to gloss over that and contribute.  Aegis has 12 rations and a tent/blanket.  If we do the 7 days I might stock up on a few more.  He should be pretty self-reliant for the trip.

Aegis doesn't have a clue when it comes to the animals.  He's fine with you organizing it, because he plans on bringing back plenty of loot.  Just don't expect him to help much with the animals, because it's not his job.  He's the muscle, not the brains, or the ringmaster.

When it comes to business, Aegis will serious up.  He doesn't have much of a preference on where we set up the ambush.  If anything, he might have a mild preference for St. Remy based on:
(a) knowing a good whore or two there, and
(b) the mages might be pushing to make town, leading to them being exhausted and inattentive.

Aegis was built to be plenty anti-social.  Sorry to be a bit callous, but that's how the character sheet was written.  He will be enjoy his drink, and the ladies, and then show up all business when it's time to work.

Reanna Draegan
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Fri 20 Mar 2020
at 22:31
Re: Against the Mageguild
In reply to Aegis (msg # 125):

Change the mule to a Saddle horse, even if I have to pay the extra for it myself, in which case I will get exclusive use of the extra payload, but at the last iteration I thought you wanted the horse? Otherwise, all good to go.

In addition, Reanna will get 2 saddlebags (6 +14 lbs), putting 28 of her rations into them. She will put her pack, weighing 42.25 lbs, onto the Horse as well. Total of her goods on horse: 62.25 lbs.

This message was last edited by the player at 22:38, Fri 20 Mar.