Reanna Draegan:

Total $1,615, 125 lbs

OOC:  I don't see food or water for four people for 7 days on that list.

In reply to Dilandua (msg # 92):

Nope. BYO, of go in together for a bulk discount. A 6 gal barrel will cost $124, and Rations cost $2 per person per day. Reanna has $620 she can loan, but she would want it back, with some interest given there is risk involved here...
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Reanna Draegan:

Nope. BYO, of go in together for a bulk discount. A 6 gal barrel will cost $124, and Rations cost $2 per person per day. Reanna has $620 she can loan, but she would want it back, with some interest given there is risk involved here...

OOC:  Be happy to go that way, just waiting to see if it matters or not (if we're moving at the speed of plot, we can just and skip the horse).  If it matters, I'd be fine oweing you a couple of hundred for food.

Dne puts in a request for seeds and fresh worms.  He's heard they tend to slow down the plot some, which may be to our advantage.

Aegis, because he's a self-centered jerkwad, will ignore all the preparations and expect his food to magically show up in the group provisions.  He's too busy drinking and enjoying the ladies of the evening to really care much about the organization part.  He will pay his fair share though.

In reply to Reanna Draegan (msg # 91):

A small mule costs $1000, has a BL of 65 and 18 ST. I don't know as you would be hauling much more than that, and it would free loot for rations.

We are travelling by speed of plot; for each defaulted hiking roll that succeeds, you gain a day, and lose one on a failure, gain two on a crit success.  If anyone has land navigation, a good roll adds +1 to the roll,
Rolls will be made three times, survival rolls to find campsites.

OOC: Could I roll versus scrounging instead of survival (which I don’t have)?

OOC Aegis has no outdoor skills of any sort.  He will expect the rest of the group to take care of those boring details.

So, once again, Movement rates have no bearing on how fast we can get there*?  But somehow skill does?  (Not that the party as a whole is likely to break BM 4, but I was hoping that being able to easily scout ahead and begin preparing a site each day might save us some time.  Dilandua has a Move of 11 after all.)


* Which I was fine with in the Abbey mission as time was "not of the essence".  But here... even with a failure on my Hiking and being Medium Encumbered, Dilandua can easily outpace the group if they had No Encumbrance.  I kinda think this needs to be accounted for, in other words... even a Critical Failure on a Hiking roll (taking three times as long to travel) still probably puts Dilandua above the lowest group member's Move).


Do those of us who do not have defaulted Hiking get a pass on this roll?  Is everyone rolling, or are these group rolls?

Why are you deviating so vastly from DF rules on land movement?  I get making things 'simpler', but standard Hiking penalty (and success) is max -10%/+20% travel time... not ±50% or +100%.


If I can get full Move, and thus scout ahead, and take all the Extra Time, Dilandua has a default Survival of 10, so expect to be down some FP when we get there (unless one of the other city types has Survival (Type) better than a 10)...

And are you using the DF camping rules or something else?  If you are using the DF rules, we can at least forgo the loss of FP (unless our camp finder critically fails).



Considering I'm about to suggest we split the money and purchase individual supplies...  Aegis might want to suddenly learn a modicum of self-sufficiency.  ;)

In reply to Dilandua (msg # 100):

Reanna has no hiking or survival skills either, though with a move of 7 she is not tardy. Still I think a saddle horse might be better than a mule as it has a higher basic BL for just $200 more, and can probably eat similar fare. Group Basics and group tent are much better than individual ones. Far cheaper. Food and water can be individual, but we can put packs on the horse...

In reply to Dilandua (msg # 100):

Sorry, i was trying to oversimplify things. I have DF 17 (or 16? Wilderness) but was  on the train while trying to post.
I was looking at the slowest speed as the effective, which is mv4. Definitely,  you could advannce and scout for a better place, and even get to town ahead of everyone.

I will review and cut/paste the travel rules to be clear, probs tomorrow.

Scrounging finds objects. Survival both finds food, and campsites.

No worries.



Reanna, Aegis, Dne, what is your Move and Encumbrance when carrying your minimum combat outfit?  How much extra could you carry and still be at that Move?

How much at your next Encumbrance level (and what are your rates)?

(I'm trying to figure out if we need to bother with a pack animal or if that's an expense we can skip.)


For example:

Dilandua, minimal fighting gear: Light Enc, Move 8.8.  Up to 5 more pounds (elves are weak).
Medium Enc, Move 6.6.  Can carry up to 13 more pounds (what noodly little arms they've got).

In reply to Dilandua (msg # 103):

If I can dump my Quarterstaff and pack, I am moving at 7, which would be my preference. Down to 5 if i pick up the quarterstaff though.

OOC: Dne’s basic move is 4.75 and he has six pounds to go before he’s lightly encumbered.

In reply to Dne Utrotare (msg # 105):

Lets calculate how fast the slowest person is at light encumbrance,  (which should be the slowest dpeed of the group) and gear the others to match.

At Light Enc, Dilandua Moves at 8.8.

OOC I owe the GM a few things.  Will try to fire up the computer this evening and get some of that done, including this.  Aegis needs equipment for the trip, mostly food.

Since you drop all fractions, my move at light encumbrance would be 3(?).  Fortunately, I’m not that encumbered.

In reply to Dne Utrotare (msg # 109):

Reanna at light encumbrance is at move 5.

OOC I started looking at Aegis, and just his weapons have him almost at BL.  Most of his armor isn't even weighted, so I need to refer back to the books and add in that information.  He will probably need some significant adjustment to get the equipment managed.  His move starts at 7, so I would guess he should be no lower than a 5 once it's all said and done.

In reply to Aegis (msg # 111):

This all idicates that Dne would be moving at 4 as is, which makes the slowest speed of the group.

OOC  How big is Dne?  Flight?  Carry-able?

OOC  Aegis will be at medium encumbrance during normal travel.  When carrying his backpack he will move 5.  At the first sign of trouble he'll drop his backpack, and then move at 6.

He has 12 rations already in his pack, and a canteen for water.
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OOC: In spite of his demonic-sounding voice and bird-like pretensions, Dne is just a man carrying 34 lbs. of equipment.  He walks on air but cannot fly.

OOC:  Based on Dne's Move of 4 at Light Encumbrance, I (the Player) recommend the following:

Mule, $1000
Bridle and Bit, $35, 3 lbs.
Saddlebags, Hold 40 lbs. $100, 3 lbs.
Group Basics, $50, 20 lbs.
Barrel. Holds 5 gallons of liquid (40 lbs. if water). DR 1, HP 11. $65, 20 lbs.
Fodder, 20 meals*, $40, 10 lbs.
Rope, 20yds, supports 300lbs, $10, 3lbs.

Total cost:  $1300

This gives us each $75 to equip with.  If people want to go in for two-man or group tents, y'all have at it, Dilandua prefers a personal tent.



* It requires a successful Naturalist or Survival to be able to have the pack animals graze during downtime... so I figure we best expect to feed the beast for most of the way there and acquire fodder for the return trip once there.