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Against the Mageguild

Posted by NarratorFor group archive 0
Reanna Draegan
player, 641 posts
HP: 11/11, FP: 10/11
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Fri 4 Jun 2021
at 22:02
  • msg #842

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Alice Abernathy (msg # 841):

Reanna, having recocked the crossbow, will aim at the remaining uninjured redcoat and rectify that situation...

[Private to GM: Crossbow skill 16+4(acc)-3(Skull)-5(range)=12, rolled 7, 5 (2) imp damage to head, x4 unless dodged.]
Virgilio Hohlfeld
player, 15 posts
Apprentice wizard
Tall and very thin
Fri 4 Jun 2021
at 23:28
  • msg #843

Re: Against the Mageguild

The prisoner, on seeing the redshirts being dispatched as they flail randomly around themselves, rolls to his knees again, but then bends forward to rest his forehead on the cobbles, thus raising his manacled wrists as high as possible.
Dne Utrotare
player, 334 posts
Anyone
down there?
Sun 6 Jun 2021
at 04:46
  • msg #844

Re: Against the Mageguild

Dilandua:
Dne Utrotare:
Probably not, if he’s to maintain his spell.

OOC:  That's not how spell Maintenance works.  Spells don't require Concentration to remain active, only that you pay the Maintenance cost when the Duration comes up.  Both spells you have cast (Sandstorm and Lightning Missiles) have a Duration of one minute, combat will likely be over before then, but if not, you'll have to pay to keep them active for another minute past that point.

You can also end a Spell at any time by paying 1 FP and taking a Concentrate Maneuver to end it early, or just let it lapse when the Duration comes up.


If necessary, Dne will re-cock a crossbow.

OOC: And thank you for pointing that out, Dilandua.  Obviously, my grasp of the rules could use some improvement.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:50, Sun 06 June 2021.
Reanna Draegan
player, 642 posts
HP: 11/11, FP: 10/11
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Sun 6 Jun 2021
at 07:00
  • msg #845

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Dne Utrotare (msg # 844):

It will double Reanna's rate of fire if you can recock the crossbow...
Dne Utrotare
player, 335 posts
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Sun 6 Jun 2021
at 19:50
  • msg #846

Re: Against the Mageguild

Reanna Draegan:
In reply to Dne Utrotare (msg # 844):

It will double Reanna's rate of fire if you can recock the crossbow...


Dne proceeds to do so.

OOC: Do I need to roll for this?  If so, would it be Dex -4?
This message was last edited by the player at 19:54, Sun 06 June 2021.
Reanna Draegan
player, 643 posts
HP: 11/11, FP: 10/11
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Sun 6 Jun 2021
at 20:44
  • msg #847

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Dne Utrotare (msg # 846):

Normally not to recock...what is your ST?
Narrator
GM, 9070 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Mon 7 Jun 2021
at 17:26
  • msg #848

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Reanna Draegan (msg # 847):

he can recock it in 4 seconds, as they have the same ST
Reanna Draegan
player, 644 posts
HP: 11/11, FP: 10/11
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Mon 7 Jun 2021
at 20:02
  • msg #849

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Narrator (msg # 848):

Normally just 2 seconds, unless ST is less that the crossbow ST, plus 1 second to reload (with fast draw) and 1 second to ready and fire (or aim). But regardless, it will still increase her rate of fire.

Reanna will recock her crossbow...
Dilandua
player, 174 posts
Shadow Elf
FP 12/4 HP -5/10
Tue 8 Jun 2021
at 19:43
  • msg #850

Re: Against the Mageguild

Reanna Draegan:
In reply to Narrator (msg # 848):

Normally just 2 seconds, unless ST is less that the crossbow ST, plus 1 second to reload (with fast draw) and 1 second to ready and fire (or aim).

It's actually:  2 seconds to Cock, 1 second to Load, 1 second to Ready.  Aiming or Firing are separate actions, so if you cock, load, ready, aim and fire, that's a full 6 seconds.*

You can shave that by not Aiming (or Bracing), and by making a Fast-Draw (Bolt) roll, but that still only gets it down to 3 seconds, separate from the fourth action, firing.

So yes, Dne can speed you up a little by cocking a crossbow for you (even loading it), but you'll still need to Ready it and then Fire.

It's like this:  If Dne cocks and loads the crossbow, you still need to take it from him (1 action), ready to your shoulder (1 action), and fire (1 action).  Slightly faster than doing it all yourself...


*  This is why crossbows suck compared to bows.  The advantage of a crossbow is when you start the fight with one and then switch to another weapon.  If you plan to use a ranged weapon throughout the fight, you should use a bow, you have a much faster rate of fire (extra faster if your a Heroic Archer).  Or carry a brace of cocked crossbows (a valet is handy for this) or get a magically recocking crossbow (and if it has a Cornucopia quiver built in, extra bonus).  A Heroic Crossbowmen with a magically recocking bow could fire once per second... but that is going to be a very expensive crossbow.

Dne Utrotare
player, 336 posts
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Wed 9 Jun 2021
at 03:54
  • msg #851

Re: Against the Mageguild

OOC: Does Reanna still need to use one action to accept the crossbow, if I hand it to her?
Reanna Draegan
player, 645 posts
HP: 11/11, FP: 10/11
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Wed 9 Jun 2021
at 19:53
  • msg #852

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Dne Utrotare (msg # 851):

Since the loader is holding the weapon, Low Tech also does not mention the ready action. But crossbows also have greate accuracy that Bows, and are easier to use, so there are benefits to offset their slow rate of fire. They also do a little more damage, generally, making them more suited to thieves who specialize in hit and run/hide, but are not so well suited for pitched battles. Reanna was not even created with Combat Reflexes...
Dilandua
player, 175 posts
Shadow Elf
FP 12/4 HP -5/10
Thu 10 Jun 2021
at 04:26
  • msg #853

Re: Against the Mageguild

Dne Utrotare:
OOC: Does Reanna still need to use one action to accept the crossbow, if I hand it to her?

OOC:  You still have to Ready a weapon for usage even if it's handed to you.


Reanna Draegan:
Since the loader is holding the weapon, Low Tech also does not mention the ready action.

Not sure which page you're quoting here.  But if they are cocking and loading for you, Dne will spend the full four seconds preparing the crossbow for you.  So you can cock, load, and fire your crossbow in 4 seconds, then swap bows with him, then fire the now loaded crossbow, then spend 4 seconds cocking, loading, firing, etc.  Basically it upgrades you to 2 shots every 6 seconds instead of 2 every 8.  Like I said, a slight increase in firing speed.

If you really want speed, either carry extra bows, get yourself three servants to reload for you, or shmooze the GM into letting you buy a Repeating Crossbow.



quote:
But crossbows also have greate accuracy that Bows, and are easier to use, so there are benefits to offset their slow rate of fire.

Yes, for the same investment of points you get +1 to crossbow skill, but to use the ACC you have to spend a turn aiming.

Or invest in Heroic Crossbowmen.


quote:
They also do a little more damage, generally, making them more suited to thieves who specialize in hit and run/hide, but are not so well suited for pitched battles.

If your plan is to only attack every 4 seconds (presuming a Fastdraw roll), you should invest in some poisons to upgrade your damage when you do attack.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:50, Thu 10 June 2021.
Reanna Draegan
player, 646 posts
HP: 11/11, FP: 10/11
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Thu 10 Jun 2021
at 07:06
  • msg #854

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Dilandua (msg # 853):

Cornucopia quiver will not let him load it, and fast draw means it would be better if I did it myself anyway, basically making it a free action to draw the bolt and a single action to load it. Which means Done can cock it in 2 actions and we swap as the third action.

But since there is little else happening it is and has been for several rounds, a subjective discussion, since there is no stopwatch running. Let's keep the thread moving and not bogged down in detail the is not likely to have any impact on the outcome of the fight. Even if it does, the GM will make the call and that will be that. Aegis can have a few attacks, but if Dne helps Reanna, we get a few shots off a little quicker and get back to ending the fight and getting the rest of the team back, hopefully before the players give up on the characters.
Dne Utrotare
player, 337 posts
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Tue 15 Jun 2021
at 19:58
  • msg #855

Re: Against the Mageguild

Good points, Reanna.
Dilandua
player, 176 posts
Shadow Elf
FP 12/4 HP -5/10
Sat 19 Jun 2021
at 17:35
  • msg #856

Re: Against the Mageguild

OOC:  Dilandua is still unconscious, maybe Reanna or Dne want to assist Aegis in making sure the downed mages and guards have been throat slit, and help (cautiously) the prisoner to being able to explain himself and make a determination of his foreseeable disposure*?

* I love double meaning words, especially this one, it can be either innocuous or villainous depending on context.

Reanna Draegan
player, 647 posts
HP: 11/11, FP: 10/11
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Sat 19 Jun 2021
at 23:18
  • msg #857

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Dilandua (msg # 856):

Still dealing with the standing guards, Dil. Will get on to that in good time. Reanna due for another shot at a redcoat?
Virgilio Hohlfeld
player, 16 posts
Apprentice wizard
Tall and very thin
Sat 19 Jun 2021
at 23:24
  • msg #858

Re: Against the Mageguild

The prisoner has held his position, face on the roadway, since his last roll to his knees.
Dne Utrotare
player, 338 posts
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down there?
Sun 20 Jun 2021
at 20:37
  • msg #859

Re: Against the Mageguild

Dilandua:
OOC:  Dilandua is still unconscious, maybe Reanna or Dne want to assist Aegis in making sure the downed mages and guards have been throat slit, and help (cautiously) the prisoner to being able to explain himself and make a determination of his foreseeable disposure*?

* I love double meaning words, especially this one, it can be either innocuous or villainous depending on context.


When I’m done cocking, sure.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:38, Sun 20 June 2021.
Narrator
GM, 9102 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Sun 27 Jun 2021
at 17:45
  • msg #860

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Reanna Draegan (msg # 857):

yes. Aegis is ripping off helmets and noisily braining the victims at this point... a souble tap each  unhelmed to be sure.

as the redshirts have to take their helmets off to clear their eyes, they are still blind.

Alice has stabilized Dilandua the crisp, and is eyeing the prisoner, who is at least a third degree friend,  by virtue of being her enemy's enemy.
Reanna Draegan
player, 647 posts
HP: 11/11, FP: 10/11
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Wed 30 Jun 2021
at 17:59
  • msg #861

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Narrator (msg # 860):

Reanna will continue to target redshirt heads, using aimed braced shots as the redshirts meander closer to her..."Alice, you may as well help the prisoner, Dne is helping here..

[Private to GM: Skill 16+4 acc+1 braced-3 head, technique=18, so 18 - range is the target to beat. Rolled 7, then 13 for the second shot. Is damage needed?]"
This message was last updated by the GM at 17:59, Wed 30 June 2021.
Virgilio Hohlfeld
player, 17 posts
Apprentice wizard
Tall and very thin
Mon 28 Jun 2021
at 21:46
  • msg #862

Re: Against the Mageguild

The prisoner holds his (uncomfortable looking) position, knees and cheek on the roadway, and flaps his manacled hands vigorously where they rest near his buttocks.
Dne Utrotare
player, 339 posts
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Tue 29 Jun 2021
at 21:41
  • msg #863

Re: Against the Mageguild

Dne continues loading crossbows and takin’ names.
Alice Abernathy
NPC, 32 posts
Acolyte of Vejovis
Wed 30 Jun 2021
at 18:02
  • msg #864

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Virgilio Hohlfeld (msg # 862):

Alice helps raise the man to his feet, and shakes her head at the scold's bridle.



aegis, meanwhile, yanks the helmet from one of the redshirts and brains him.
Virgilio Hohlfeld
player, 18 posts
Apprentice wizard
Tall and very thin
Wed 30 Jun 2021
at 22:29
  • msg #865

Re: Against the Mageguild

The prisoner smiles around his gag as he rises to around six feet in height.  Up close, he looks quite young, as well as downright bony.  He's wearing plain brown shirt and breeches, a brown cloth cap, and lightweight brown shoes -- all of them lighter than his skin.

Once he has both feet well under him, he bows low to Alice, then turns his back to reveal the greenish iron manacles and pulls at them gently.  The inevitable shackle galls are still fresh.  His ankle rings have enough chain between to allow him to walk, but probably not to run.
Reanna Draegan
player, 648 posts
HP: 11/11, FP: 10/11
Rank 2 Admin badge
Fri 2 Jul 2021
at 10:03
  • msg #866

Re: Against the Mageguild

In reply to Virgilio Hohlfeld (msg # 865):

Are there any more threats?
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