Out of Character 9.   Posted by Narrator.Group: 0
Narrator
 GM, 7439 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Sat 22 Feb 2020
at 19:59
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 109):

They take it as is. Unfortunately, I don't have a pdf editor thst would let me rip it out. I had to settle for a double sided printing without a cover, like a peasant.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1835 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 08:48
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Narrator (msg # 111):

Hate that when my computer does not do what I want it to...

For those who know the books backwards, was there a bow modification somewhere that allowed a bow to be used as a staff in Melee combat? For that matter, it should be simple to imbue a bow with the staff spell to enable it to be used as a magic staff, right?
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 981 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 10:15
Re: Out of Character 9
Getting Staff spell on a bow should be simple enough -- it's once-living material (wood, sinew, maybe a little bone), and isn't even an edge case like my whip (that wouldn't work if it were longer than it is, I'm told).

Seems to me there was "Battlebow" or something of the sort -- I do recall something about a bow that was reinforced to be used as a quarterstaff (presumably when unstrung).  Powerups?  Maybe?
Ryojin
 player, 43 posts
 Martial artist
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 10:29
Re: Out of Character 9
I will post later today.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1908 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 11:15
Re: Out of Character 9
Christine Bjorn:
For those who know the books backwards, was there a bow modification somewhere that allowed a bow to be used as a staff in Melee combat?

DF 11 Power-Ups, Bow Fencer [10 points] you may treat your bow as a baton in melee combat, Reach 1.  Beware Parry with it however as it is still only as heavy as a bow.
Oly
 player, 1180 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 16:42
Re: Out of Character 9
I think the Staff spell is a much better choice, stronger, better parry skills and doesn't risk losing your missile weapon to breaking.
Narrator
 GM, 7446 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 21:10
Re: Out of Character 9

Might not catch up until tomorrow.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1909 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 21:41
Re: Out of Character 9
Oly:
I think the Staff spell is a much better choice, stronger, better parry skills and doesn't risk losing your missile weapon to breaking.

I don't think that spell does what you think it does... and it certainly doesn't do what Christine was asking about.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1661 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 21:43
Re: Out of Character 9
i like polearms. i've been thinking of a wizard that uses one, instead of a staff, with staff spell placed on it.
Narrator
 GM, 7451 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 21:51
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 119):

The blade wouldn't have mages touch, only the other end.

This message was last edited by the GM at 21:55, Mon 24 Feb.

Chye Isuel
 player, 1662 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 21:53
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Narrator (msg # 120):

that's cool enough, for some ideas i have.
Ardenas Barehand
 player, 1411 posts
 Human martial artist with
 a few spells on the side.
Mon 24 Feb 2020
at 23:50
Re: Out of Character 9
I recall a limitation of no more than 2 yard length for Staff spell items, as well.

I read Christine as being interested in a bow with Staff, for an archer-mage, and having Bow Fencing would gain an additional bit of versatility.  Though I also recall an advantage that lets you shoot without penalty even in melee, so you don't have to switch weapons if the enemy closes.  Not Weapon Master or Heroic Archer, just checked those.
Chye Isuel
 player, 1663 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Tue 25 Feb 2020
at 00:14
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 122):
you could do a mean crossbar, and there's techniques to strike with the shaft, as well as the sword technique to wield staves. you could hit them in combat and magetouch the crap-ola outta them, along with a nasty crushing blow. i might make me a sahudese magi-martial artist, in this style.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:15, Tue 25 Feb.

Christine Bjorn
 player, 1836 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Tue 25 Feb 2020
at 01:48
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 123):

The staff spell cast on the bow should allow the bow to be used to extend reach with spells, but the bow would still be vulnerable in melee combat. I guess just carrying a Jo could resolve that.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1910 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Tue 25 Feb 2020
at 01:54
Re: Out of Character 9
Ardenas Barehand:
Though I also recall an advantage that lets you shoot without penalty even in melee, so you don't have to switch weapons if the enemy closes.  Not Weapon Master or Heroic Archer, just checked those.

That is a small part of Heroic Archer; shooting in melee without taking Bulk Penalties.  There are no other Advantages that do this, though there is a Technique.


Christine Bjorn:
The staff spell cast on the bow should allow the bow to be used to extend reach with spells, but the bow would still be vulnerable in melee combat. I guess just carrying a Jo could resolve that.

Or you take Bow Fencer as I posted above which allows you to parry with the bow.  It also increases the Bow's DR from 2 to 6 for melee and parrying, though again, you still have to worry about parrying weight.  However making it a Fine, Sylvan bow would help to mitigate that.

This message was last edited by the player at 01:57, Tue 25 Feb.

Narrator
 GM, 7454 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 25 Feb 2020
at 02:15
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 125):

Not a fan of either bow fencer or bow harp.
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1912 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Tue 25 Feb 2020
at 02:59
Re: Out of Character 9
Oh poor wretch, whatever did she do to Christine to deserve this fate!



And no for soemthing less funny...
Narrator:
Not a fan of either bow fencer or bow harp.

Any particular reason?  I admit, I don't like abilities that aren't 'supernatural' in nature changing the properties of physical objects, though it could be a Chi thing with Bow Fencer... and I semi agree on the dislike of Bow Harps.  It has never set well with me despite the fact that I know someone who plays a mean recurve.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1837 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Tue 25 Feb 2020
at 09:36
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 127):

Um, if she can create food and remove curses...why is she hungry?
Narrator
 GM, 7455 posts
 DM says
 roll for initiative!
Tue 25 Feb 2020
at 15:02
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 128):

Didn't realize she had create food or remove curse. The point was she was cursed, and her savior is Christine.  That was how the intro would work, and the need for food was the reason it was a curse. Perhaps being utterly alone and chummy lowered the skills until she failed too bbn often, or she had a crit fail on remove curse.
Oly
 player, 1181 posts
 Badly disfigured face
 Rank 2 Guild badge
Tue 25 Feb 2020
at 17:31
Re: Out of Character 9
I thought Nice entry to the thread myself... even if I don't play in it...

This message was last edited by the player at 02:03, Wed 26 Feb.

Christine Bjorn
 player, 1840 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 26 Feb 2020
at 00:29
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Narrator (msg # 129):

Or had forgetfulness cast on her, perhaps due to an item that she forget she was wearing. Christine has Dispel Magic, but not Remove Curse...

Do like the general idea though!

This message was last edited by the player at 05:49, Wed 26 Feb.

Christine Bjorn
 player, 1841 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 26 Feb 2020
at 06:28
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 131):

Another quick question, weight and cost for a light leather skirt?
Chye Isuel
 player, 1665 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Wed 26 Feb 2020
at 06:37
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 132):

use the partial coverage chart, for custom armor. add up weight and cost for light leather, covering the thighs, to the knees. then, you'll find the total cost and weight.
Christine Bjorn
 player, 1842 posts
 Blue Haired Elf
 Not from Wastrels Hope.
Wed 26 Feb 2020
at 07:05
Re: Out of Character 9
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 133):

The Low Tech Custom coverage chart says that armour covering thighs and knees is half the weight and cost of torso armour. So using the chart for armour given, that would be 3.15 lbs and $26.50. I wanted to confirm this and not just assume it though.

Dragonbone is also notably absent from the charts as well, but I believe it is identical to Orichalcum but +24 CF. This is all correct?
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1913 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 4/10
Wed 26 Feb 2020
at 11:29
Re: Out of Character 9
Christine Bjorn:
Dragonbone is also notably absent from the charts as well...

Huh, weird copy/paste error.  I'll have to edit it in when I get home from work.

quote:
but I believe it is identical to Orichalcum but +24 CF. This is all correct?

Correct.