In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 762):

Does not have drones?

Scout Robot, UT 80, note that this can have a carbine attached. This is most like the basic Shadorun drone. However, the list really does go on!
Techbot, UT 85
Bush Robot, UT 86
Surveillance Worm, UT 105
Robobug, UT 111
Combat Android and Warbot, UT 167

and also the Powered Tripod mount, UT 151, should be a favourite of Riggers!

and we have not even started to talk about Nanobots...

All of these have prices, and many have options.

OK.  feel a little dumb.  Never thought to look under explanation robots.  I stand corrected, that's exactly it.

Nice touch with the tripod.  Had not thought to try one of those either.

In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 764):

The only dumb questions are the ones you don't ask. As my grandpa used to say, better to ask and appear ignorant for a moment than to say nothing and stay ignorant forever!

Yeah, outside of UT it's only TS and RoS.  Like I said, I can skim TS in a few days and see which books have cybershells/robots/drones.


Nothing really deals with drone-rigging.  My only recommendation is this one:

If your drone has a strong enough AI/SI set of programs that it can act independently if necessary, it should be an Ally.  If it's just a "gun" that you can fire elsewhere, it's just expensive gear.

Common approach holds to having a "limiting control skill", like Battlesuit for fighting when in a battlesuit.  I prefer to use Piloting/Driving/Sailing for drones.
This message was lightly edited by the player at 19:28, Mon 19 Oct 2020.

I think the scout drone probably covers what the GM was looking for.  So far all the rigging we have seen has been that sort of model.  He's pretty limited on time so we're going really slow, and branching out into rigging has forced him to work up that section of the game.  Appreciate the pointers, thanks a lot for your time on all of this.

In reply to Balir Ironhide (msg # 767):

Our newcomer will be playing a pixie martial artist. Sorry about scant posting, work came on full tilt.

Pixie.

Martial artist.

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In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 769):

My reaction exactly.  Built almost entirely on enhanced flying dodge and push.

Just finished a 5 hour round of inappropriately requested OT. I was told I had 15 items to scan and register. It was 47, each reqiring a full page of data entry after being irradiated.... well, it is their money .

Oh, interesting.  So they're avoiding dealing damage for being a "setup" attacker.

Hello big folk. I'm glad to be here. Behold the glory of the pound for pound strongest species in all of creation! In the world of tiny fighters I'm freaking Goku!
This message was last edited by the player at 02:32, Sat 24 Oct 2020.

Welcome, Ginko!

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 771):

There are some challenges for sure but Ginko can put out damage that isn't completely insignificant. TBaM and Throwing Art open up some possibilities with rapid strikes and pixie sized harpoons. I'll probably have to play Moby Dick style for quite awhile until I fill in a couple of holes in the design. It's all for fun, not saying it will end well. No sneezing around the pixie please...

So, I'm adventuring with a leprechaun -- she's something like a foot tall.  Pixies are smaller?  And can fly, of course, there's one in another group (I read all the threads).

In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 775):

Odd combination, I must say...

There is so much going on at once and I'm not sure how I fit in yet. Pixies are about half the size of a leprechaun, about 5"-6" tall. I didn't realize that leprechauns were only a foot tall, I always imagined them taller.

Flying is great, and I think being so small will be just as great for sneaking around and getting places others can't. I'll be one heck of a scout. Speed is my greatest asset. I managed to pull off a ridiculous move score.

Move is one thing, but did you pull off a great Base Speed as well?

Indeed, decent. So a very good dodge, potentially in the 20's if I go all out, but I can't take a hit, AT ALL. The exciting part is a 3 yard step.

I presume that's an Air Move of 21+?  So you got your Basic Speed to a about a 10.5 or better?  That's impressive.

It's what inspired me to try something as unconventional as a fighting pixie. There are some daunting hurdles but also some impressive advantages. We'll see how it all works out. It'll be fun either way.

From what I've read it can be 'expensive' as a PC, as in, most people who do Pixie warrior builds go the poison route+ranged for damage dealing.  Otherwise I've seen them rolled as Cleric or Wizard to great effect (Pixie Wizard + Hide spell + decent Stealth is effectively invisible, without Invisibility's drawback).

Chi strikes are an intriguing idea, doing the 'setup attacker' route; stuns (Ki Shout), throws/trips/pushes, crippling/blinding strikes (Pressure Points), armor/shield/weapon breaking strikes (Breaking Blow+Power blow)...  That's a very interesting route that could work very, very well.  Instead of being a 'breach skirmisher' you're playing a 'crowd control specialist'.  On paper it sounds challenging but fun.


And because we're not rolling pure DFRPG, you can eventually pick up Lethal Strike for better damage on fleshy foes, possibly even Pressure Secrets for even more damage, or even such esoteric Chi abilities like Dim Mak or Soul Blast...

A good stealth score combined with -6 to their contest using observation to spot me is not quite as effective but still a situation most assassins could dream for. DF2 pg. 11 Backstabbing also comes to mind, Combined with invisibility art. Not as great and the wizards version but still very good. A martial pixie still does have magery, its possible to pick up a spell or two someday.



All very good insights. The Narrator and I are still figuring out how judo throws work when pixies attempt them on big folk. But knocking people prone would be amazing for damage output as well. Kiss the wall/carpet from MA. 118 combined with a Push chi strike sounds pretty painful, ST of attack equal to your Push skill? or figure the velocity of the push and treat as a fall hitting a hard surface. I'm hoping for the first option :)

I haven't managed to make breaking blow or power blow combat effective to date. The penalties are too stiff to use requiring too much time concentrating or an immense number of CP dropped into an IQ skill. The pixie however with its stealth and 3 yard step could charge up in the air out of reach and conceivably reach something distant when ready. Everyone protect the pixie while he charges up!



Yah, I forgot all about lethal strike. So much to pack into one little body. Gotta live long enough first. But roll with blow helps, chi based DR (tough skin). Definitely need to buy more HP.

Depending on how gwythaint is ruling it (and it's been two years so I've forgotten if I even asked) the Hide spell: "Vision roll is necessary to see a subject in plain sight".

So you can Stealth even if already spotted without having to Move to cover or if stuck in the open.  Then the spell helps to counter the Backstabbing In Plain Sight penalties.  It's a bit backwards how it works (penalizing enemies, reducing your penalties rather than providing a bonus to your Stealth), but it's a long lasting spell.

And it 'stacks' with Light Walk and Invisibility Art.  Rolling with all three is technically better than the Invisibility spell, just more complex and possibly more FP expensive...


Exactly and as a Fae you have an easier time talking gwythaint into the Charm Perk to ignore spell prereqs.


By RAW?  There's a Murphy's Rule comic about that in Pyramid somewhere...

By RAW, there is nothing stopping a Pixie from tossing around Dragons.  Personally I like to house rule it that if the enemy could treat you like Encumbrance based on having ST double or more, they get a Quick Contest resistance to being thrown, their DX or ST (whichever is higher) plus the SM difference, versus your Judo or Sumo (or I guess Push) skill.  So it's still possible, but not easily guaranteed you're tossing Dragons from the sky.


I wouldn't allow straight Push skill, but I could see using trained Push ST as damage from a Kiss The Wall attack, just as per Wrestling and Sumo.

Power Blow is Will, so it's easier to get up there, but yeah Breaking Blow often ends up being the Martial Artist's 'lockpick'...

And hey, Ginko might be small enough to break locks from the inside.


You might even be able to 'roll' upwards (at an angle anyway) to put yourself further out of reach of other enemies.

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 784):



Lets hope I never need to Roll with Blow, because all it means if I'm using this skill is I'm trying to reduce the number of HT rolls needed to not die.

But as far as retreating is concerned, flying is awesome. You get a +1 to your retreat for changing plane, so I can retreat upwards or downwards one level and get +4. Also I can move diagonally, so I can take a step backwards 1 yard and change height by 1 yard for 1.5 move. So a flying 3 yard step can result in 4 yards of movement.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:26, Mon 26 Oct 2020.

So how come there are so many players? Do people play more than one character at a time?

In reply to Ginko Bitterpetal (msg # 786):

Yes, some of us play quite a few, but try to keep just one in a thread, not always successfully.