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Out of Character 10.

Posted by NarratorFor group archive 0
Jendrich
player, 193 posts
HP: 10/12
FP: 15/15
Tue 15 Feb 2022
at 17:05
  • msg #917

Re: Out of Character 10

The words you listed are replaced for me, but I'm using the old site, so I don't have the underlines you have in your version.
Narrator
GM, 9988 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Tue 15 Feb 2022
at 17:48
  • msg #918

Re: Out of Character 10

In reply to Jendrich (msg # 917):

I actually created a group of known Eldritch speakers, and as i have gm access, have nfi what the outgroup looks like.
Servitor of the outer gods
NPC, 6 posts
Horrific
Mass of tentacles
Tue 15 Feb 2022
at 17:50
  • msg #919

Re: Out of Character 10

In reply to Narrator (msg # 918):

[Language unknown: Onsbe urenteere saonil, ouis but es plal!]
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 2544 posts
High Elf Sage
HP 9/9 FP 1/10 PF 0/8
Tue 15 Feb 2022
at 19:23
  • msg #920

Re: Out of Character 10

Jendrich:
The words you listed are replaced for me, but I'm using the old site, so I don't have the underlines you have in your version.

For me on ORPoL (Old RPoL) they're still underlined*, but the mouse-over text says "Private Message" for all parts of the Language Line instead of switching between "Private Message" and "Known Word".


* Which means I suspect that is a browser artifact.  Which means it's either working properly on Chrome, or it isn't working properly on Chrome, but I have no other baseline to check it against as I can't be arsed to fire up Firefox and deal with it today.

Narrator:
I actually created a group of known Eldritch speakers, and as i have gm access, have nfi what the outgroup looks like.

I couldn't tell either as I'm in the group.

But your last message should look something like this:

[Language unknown: Ckin preproati iotest, eau ter i mesa!]

... to anyone who isn't in group.


[EDIT]
As for why this has suddenly become a burning thing for me to investigate?  I'm in a couple of games that use the Language Groups.  In one I've discovered that Language posts in hidden threads trip the New Post alerts and notifications (a bug) and in the other I stumbled into the Known Words list... so I'm now trying to work out exactly how these 'features' work (there's no documentation so I still mentally call them bugs, ;) ).
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This message was last edited by the player at 19:28, Tue 15 Feb 2022.
Chou-Zhen Mou
player, 1204 posts
Not quite right but
a mage none the less
Tue 15 Feb 2022
at 23:39
  • msg #921

Re: Out of Character 10

Well, since I speak Eldritch natively, that would explain why Gwythaint put me (as a player) on that list.  I'd guess the feature wasn't designed with players playing multiple characters in different groups in mind...

But, it'll be a LOT easier to type [Language unknown: Ratha heisit wase la o mi virwerive.] than to try to look this up on the R'lyeh and Valyrian translators and try to find enough words to make a coherent sentence on either one, then type it again in English in a private line to the boss...

I'd be happy to start doing that for anything that isn't Aralaise, though it might take a little time to get used to doing it.  Just in my group, we have people who speak Sahudese, Shevnian, Valdassyan, and probably Draconic in addition to Aralaise -- and it's far too easy to understand each other, since I'm pretty sure no one in the group speaks all of those.
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 2545 posts
High Elf Sage
HP 9/9 FP 1/10 PF 0/8
Wed 16 Feb 2022
at 04:50
  • msg #922

Re: Out of Character 10

Chou-Zhen Mou:
But, it'll be a LOT easier to type  than to try to look this up on the R'lyeh and Valyrian translators and try to find enough words to make a coherent sentence on either one, then type it again in English in a private line to the boss...

Easier, but not as much fun... (for me).

But I can see the GM deciding to use it for Eldritch, as that language doesn't have an easy 'swap' out, unlike the other languages where he's just using a real world substitute.

quote:
I'd be happy to start doing that for anything that isn't Aralaise, though it might take a little time to get used to doing it.  Just in my group, we have people who speak Sahudese, Shevnian, Valdassyan, and probably Draconic in addition to Aralaise -- and it's far too easy to understand each other, since I'm pretty sure no one in the group speaks all of those.

Sure, but every probably (or at least should) speak Aralaise, so everyone should have common reference langauge.
Ardenas Barehand
player, 1792 posts
Human martial artist with
a few spells on the side.
Wed 16 Feb 2022
at 10:04
  • msg #923

Re: Out of Character 10

Jareth Mooncalled:
but every probably (or at least should) speak Aralaise, so everyone should have common reference langauge.


Certainly, everyone in the party has at least one common language -- for most parties, it's Aralaise, pretty sure it's Sahudese for the Wuxia group -- and that gets left in English on screen.  However, not all NPCs speak Aralaise (or not well), and sometimes one needs to speak some other, relatively obscure language (like Hindi for certain parts of Artisan district, or Eldritch) that most if not all in the party don't understand...

The thing that gets me with using Google Translate etc. and pasting in is that I *know* the result will have that "machine translated" flavor, and Sahudese isn't the only one of these that's a sort of patois -- Valdassyan is a mix of Spanish and Arabic, at least culturally and most likely linquistically as well, and my Spanish isn't good enough to cross-check even any flavor of actual Spanish (or recognize the difference in written Castillian vs. Mexican vs. Argentinian Spanish, which differ in more or less the same ways as British vs. American vs. Australian English).

Just as the game abstracts away the 2 or 3 seconds flight time of an arrow on a long shot, it makes sense to abstract away languages none of us actually speak -- but it's surely more fun (at least for me) if those whose characters don't speak those get them as gibberish or gibberish interspersed with an occasional cognate.
Narrator
GM, 10006 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Sun 20 Feb 2022
at 19:02
  • msg #924

Re: Out of Character 10

I have been a little out of it. sorry for the sparcity of posts
Christine Bjorn
player, 2215 posts
Blue Haired Elf
HP: 7/9, FP: 11/15
Sun 20 Feb 2022
at 19:12
  • msg #925

Re: Out of Character 10

In reply to Narrator (msg # 924):

RL is like that. Most of us have been around long enough to get it, and to have been there.
Stenet Fjall
player, 563 posts
Blessed Dwarf Holy Slayer
HP: 13/13 FP: 14/17 +2 B
Mon 21 Feb 2022
at 00:58
  • msg #926

Re: Out of Character 10

Oh man, we're so boned...
Jendrich
player, 197 posts
HP: 10/12
FP: 15/15
Thu 24 Feb 2022
at 19:59
  • msg #927

Re: Out of Character 10

Umm... Narrator? A cow is 3 hexes (SM+2), while an elephant is 10 hexes (SM+3). SM+4 is around 14 hexes, a lot bigger than two cows...
Narrator
GM, 10020 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Fri 25 Feb 2022
at 17:53
  • msg #928

Re: Out of Character 10

In reply to Jendrich (msg # 927):

thanks for the correction. this critter is roughly 3 hexes by three hexes by just over two high, (3 cows) so 9 hexes... that makes it SM+3 then.
Mario Crowfoot
player, 1289 posts
An orphan who grew up
with bow in hand
Sat 26 Feb 2022
at 13:40
  • msg #929

Re: Out of Character 10

Clarence, references to Oz are because, in the maps provided in L. Frank Baum's Oz books, East and West are reversed (i.e. when facing North, East is to your left rather than your right).  Therefore the only way going south and turning left could take us west is if we're in Oz.

In the map linked below, Munchkin country is in the east, despite being to the left of the City of Oz.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ounding-countrie.jpg

This is related to connecting Oz with Australia (also supported by its location in the extreme southwest Pacific, and its "deadly desert") because if, from, say, Adelaide or Coober Peddy, you watch the sun rise in the east, expecting it to cross the southern sky as it does in all the well known lands (to ca. 1900 American school children), you'll conclude that East and West are reversed, because facing the "southern" noonday sun puts its rising to your right, not to your left as would be the case in, say, Kansas.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:46, Sat 26 Feb 2022.
Narrator
GM, 10024 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Sat 26 Feb 2022
at 13:53
  • msg #930

Re: Out of Character 10

In reply to Mario Crowfoot (msg # 929):

I never realized that!

be catching up Monday.
Chye Isuel
player, 1956 posts
Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
Dragon descended, Youxia
Sat 26 Feb 2022
at 14:54
  • msg #931

Re: Out of Character 10

We represent the Lullaby League, The Lullaby League, The Lullaby League
And in the name of the Lullaby League,
We wish to welcome you to Munchkinland.
We represent the Lollypop Guild, The Lollypop Guild, The Lollypop Guild
And in the name of the Lollypop Guild,
We wish to welcome you to Muchkinland.
We welcome you to Munchkinland, Tra la la la la la la
From now on you'll be history.
You'll be history, you'll be history, you'll be history.
And we will glorify your name.
You will be a bust, be a bust, be a bust
In the Hall of Fame!

Clarence Montague
player, 550 posts
Torchbearer, Spiderboy
HP: 11/11, FP: 6/12
Sun 27 Feb 2022
at 08:46
  • msg #932

Re: Out of Character 10

Mario Crowfoot:
This is related to connecting Oz with Australia (also supported by its location in the extreme southwest Pacific, and its "deadly desert") because if, from, say, Adelaide or Coober Peddy, you watch the sun rise in the east, expecting it to cross the southern sky as it does in all the well known lands (to ca. 1900 American school children), you'll conclude that East and West are reversed, because facing the "southern" noonday sun puts its rising to your right, not to your left as would be the case in, say, Kansas.


Ah, but technically you are actually confusing North and South...but I get the idea, of course. But I also did not realize that about the land of Oz (as opposed to the land of Aus)!
Mario Crowfoot
player, 1290 posts
An orphan who grew up
with bow in hand
Sun 27 Feb 2022
at 12:29
  • msg #933

Re: Out of Character 10

Clarence Montague:
I also did not realize that about the land of Oz (as opposed to the land of Aus)!


A deficient childhood, then.  Baum wrote fourteen Oz books, and then at least two other authors wrote more -- there are apparently a total of forty.  In truth, the last few of Baum's were below the earlier standard, and some of those by other authors were better stories.

Nothing prevents an adult reading them (other than shortage of free time)...

https://oz.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Oz_books
Jareth Mooncalled
player, 2550 posts
High Elf Sage
HP 9/9 FP 1/10 PF 0/8
Sun 27 Feb 2022
at 20:05
  • msg #934

Re: Out of Character 10

Eh, I don't count the non-Baum books as canon, but I'm an old curmudgeon that way.
Narrator
GM, 10025 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Mon 28 Feb 2022
at 22:17
  • msg #935

Re: Out of Character 10

In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 934):

Shit day in the salt munes; no lunch plus almost an hour of mandatory OT. grumble grumble
Oly
player, 1344 posts
Badly disfigured face
Rank 2 Guild badge
Mon 28 Feb 2022
at 22:33
  • msg #936

Re: Out of Character 10

Sounds like a Monday. relax and take a break, we'll survive just fine.
Narrator
GM, 10026 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Tue 1 Mar 2022
at 17:23
  • msg #937

Re: Out of Character 10

In reply to Oly (msg # 936):

dropped my phone the other day, lost camera ,screenshot, and on-off switch. if I drop off suddenly,  that would be why.
Narrator
GM, 10031 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Fri 4 Mar 2022
at 18:15
  • msg #938

Re: Out of Character 10

In reply to Narrator (msg # 937):

phone back, but work has been worse than usual. also went to a wake for a friend last night.
Grohm'Tahl
player, 44 posts
Fri 4 Mar 2022
at 18:41
  • msg #939

Re: Out of Character 10

Sorry to hear about your friend. My condolences.
Narrator
GM, 10033 posts
DM says
roll for initiative!
Fri 4 Mar 2022
at 18:43
  • msg #940

Re: Out of Character 10

In reply to Grohm'Tahl (msg # 939):

guy I worked with, k ew him for thirty years. he was only 8 years older than me and had planned on retiring this year.
Amelia Montaigne
player, 213 posts
Agent about town
Fri 4 Mar 2022
at 19:27
  • msg #941

Re: Out of Character 10

Hmmm well never easy to comment on such things, but I hope the wake went as well as possible.
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