Awards and development.   Posted by Narrator.Group: 0
Ardenas Barehand
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Wed 27 Feb 2019
at 16:56
Re: Awards and development
Jareth Mooncalled:
Ardenas Barehand:
There were changes to the DF rules when the DFRPG set came out.  One of those was the elimination of Quick & Dirty enchantment (with the exception of the Staff spell), with the result that even a Cornucopia Quiver of ordinary arrows is now a $1300 item (as I recall -- it's a BUNCH more than the $125 it used to be, in any case).  Another was a further nerfing of power storage...

Not quite.  In DF Wizards can't take Enchantment spells, so that was already right out before DFRPG.


Except that, under DF, there wasn't an explicit prohibition against NPC enchanters making Q&D items -- +1 Fortify, +1 Puissance, and +1 Accuracy, for instance, Cornucopia for ordinary missiles, and a few other items in the under-100 fp category were almost dirt cheap (at $1/fp) when Q&D was permitted.  An archer who didn't buy a Cornucopia quiver was cheating himself.

With S&S the only kind of enchantment, even a Staff spell ought to cost $625 ($25/fp for 25 fp), hence the exception it enjoys, since wizards need their wands/rods/staves.  IMO, Q&D should have been kept; it would still have low level fighters, for instance, choosing between Accuracy and Puissance, but with a couple points in Wealth at least able to afford an enchanted weapon from the start.

Then again, a Staff that's worth $625 would make a very acceptable power item for most starting wizards...
Clarence Montague
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 Torchbearer
Wed 27 Feb 2019
at 19:59
Re: Awards and development
Ardenas Barehand:
Then again, a Staff that's worth $625 would make a very acceptable power item for most starting wizards...


Except that Power items use an items MUNDANE value, before enchantments...
Narrator
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Wed 27 Feb 2019
at 20:24
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Ardenas Barehand (msg # 106):

There was a whiff of powerstones, Spielgud has some that belonged to Flax, also a charging rack, left over from 3e. There are none elsewhere.
Ximmiv was an enchanter pc from before Sean's purge, and he and I had worked out that power item recharging was via the manastone spell. However, after the player left, I gave the character the  50 pt"can charge power item" advantage from DF18. He is the go to guy, and holy items get recharged in Paolo the Pardoner's high sanctity room.
Likewise Charal casts Clean all day from her 1 yard high mana area...

Passively charging psionic items can recover energy faster when next to sleeping elder things. Usually not a safe proposition...but functional here...


As to the off book characters, there are a bunch of 3e players who don't own any 4e, so there are a handful of unpowered characters, along with a l9t built from mismatched templates from DF 15, which I like.
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 357 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Wed 27 Feb 2019
at 20:47
Re: Awards and development
Any idea of how much $$$ the Juniors will get?  ... looks thin w/o Alaric's (assumed) sword.
Narrator
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Wed 27 Feb 2019
at 22:58
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 109):

It is not a huge amount of cash, but that stone...
Jareth Mooncalled
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 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 01:30
Re: Awards and development
Jocelyn Lemru:
Any idea of how much $$$ the Juniors will get?  ... looks thin w/o Alaric's (assumed) sword.

$10 each, with $10.6 going into the 'house fund" and $5 for Charlene.  This doesn't count the orichalcum cuffs or Alaric's sword or the Wish Stone (presuming it is a Wish Stone).
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 819 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 03:03
Re: Awards and development
Good thing I don't have to buy replacement arrows (not that I would have used a lot on this last run).  That'll buy me a couple meals, anyway.  No more broken pies from goblin street vendors for me...

Get a good night's sleep and I'll be ready to go again.  It's good to be young...
Narrator
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Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 17:28
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 111):

The cuffs are worth $3000, or $1200 post sale.
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 821 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 19:39
Re: Awards and development
Okay, that's more than a couple meals...
Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1566 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Thu 28 Feb 2019
at 23:37
Re: Awards and development
Mario Crowfoot:
Okay, that's more than a couple meals...

Aye.
Narrator
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Sat 2 Mar 2019
at 15:16
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Jareth Mooncalled (msg # 115):

I recommend Jocelyn pay 1 point for shape metal, and 1 for the perk "alternate path" which eliminates the need for prerequisites.
Jocelyn Lemru
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Sat 2 Mar 2019
at 21:00
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Narrator (msg # 116):

I believe I already have shape metal.... <Shape Earth (Metal Only) IQ/H> by your hand. Don't know that the perk is necessary.
Narrator
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Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 23:12
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 117):

 Thought you were short a point. Take the perk free, it explains the way you learned it without prerequisites
Jocelyn Lemru
 player, 364 posts
 Sorceress
 hot and hotheaded
Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 23:13
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Narrator (msg # 118):

She has it as a charm...
Mario Crowfoot
 player, 823 posts
 An orphan who grew up
 with bow in hand
Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 23:24
Re: Awards and development
Another step toward a personal goal: Mario has improved his Bow skill.  Offsets a step of range or part of a called shot penalty.
Jareth Mooncalled
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Mon 4 Mar 2019
at 23:29
Re: Awards and development
I've been sick the last week, so I've fallen a tab bit behind on my updating of things...  give me a few days before we do any major moving on?
Narrator
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Sun 10 Mar 2019
at 17:57
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Jocelyn Lemru (msg # 119):

Couldn't remember if I had already done that. Thanks.
Narrator
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Sun 10 Mar 2019
at 19:32
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Narrator (msg # 122):

In the service of the Omo

Gifts from Sakemoko to follow.
Iskander has a gooq thrusting broadsword and hanger.
Tanaka has a chainmail hauberk sellable for 558 and helm for 90, and a shield sellable for 24.

Points: 4 each
Chou-Zhen Mou
 player, 839 posts
 Not quite right but
 a mage none the less
Mon 11 Mar 2019
at 08:56
Re: Awards and development
<bows>

Thank you!
Chye Isuel
 player, 1421 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Mon 11 Mar 2019
at 18:08
Re: Awards and development
everybody in the thread, or just Iskander and Tanaka get 4 cp?
Narrator
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Mon 11 Mar 2019
at 23:25
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Chye Isuel (msg # 125):

everybody in the thread. they just get the loot from Bresnak's Bogus Bodyguard
Chye Isuel
 player, 1424 posts
 Osu! Ora Chye Iseul!
 Dragon descended, Youxia
Fri 15 Mar 2019
at 06:52
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Narrator (msg # 126):

how many cp's did chye's Naginata gain after the battle? it was well employed during that battle, taking several heads, and skewering a few.  (named items gain independant xp to be spent on enchantments. (currently has 13.)

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Jareth Mooncalled
 player, 1612 posts
 Dirty High Elf Sage
 HP: 9/9 FP: 7/10
Mon 8 Apr 2019
at 05:14
Re: Awards and development
Narrator:
Juniors:
Everyone gets 4 points, there is the following loot
Cheap weapons:
Dagger $3
Shortsword $64
Large knife $6
Thrusting broadsword $120
Spear $9
Knife $3
Axe $9

Hey boss... my numbers and your don't line up...

Item		Book$	Cheap	Sell$	Your Numbers
Dagger		20	8	3.2	3
Shortsword	400	160	64	64
Large knife	40	16	6.4	6
Thr Broadsword	600	240	96	120
Spear		40	16	6.4	9
Knife		30	12	4.8	3
Axe		50	20	8	9
				188.8	214

Is there an adjustment going on?  Market fluctuations?  Was that Thrusting Broadsword a Thrusting Bastard Sword (that would totally account for the difference there)?  Was the Spear a Long Spear and the Axe a Throwing Axe?  And then everything just rounded down?


And I think I need to develop a chart of the best weapons to loot by pound...  F-ing Spears are not worth it when Small Knives hold the same value at 1/8th the weight.


[EDIT]
Answered in Bone Gate thread; the higher numbers.
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Narrator
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Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 21:09
Re: Awards and development
Cultists by the Docks

Everyone gets the perk[1]
  Tax free entrance to the undercity
And each of you get 5pts
(Norman gets 2pts)

Vote on MVP for a bonus point
Aoife
 player, 547 posts
 Leprechaun
 Priestess of Cerrunos
Tue 30 Apr 2019
at 21:27
Re: Awards and development
In reply to Narrator (msg # 129):

Cool. Can we vote for our massive demon-killing friend?