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Lucius McMurphy
 Alt, 1844 posts
 NCO1 - Corporal
 Callsign - 'Burner'
Sat 16 May 2015
at 01:09
 msg #955
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Leadership or Noble for Officer Ranks, Tactics and/or Mental for NCO Ranks.

For purposes of this game you stay in one area or the other unless special circumstances require a mini-mulligan of sorts like when we needed more Lance Commanders and people that chose that could re-jigger their characters to have those skills and correspondingly get promoted differently.

As for the extreme range stuff...

Adding 6 is right in line with the previous ranges of 2 and 4 so that makes total sense.

I either wouldn't monkey with the damage at all or keep the -1 across the board for energy weapons too.  That's my 2 c-bills.
Kitten
 GM, 6170 posts
Sat 16 May 2015
at 03:22
 msg #956
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Lucius McMurphy:
Leadership or Noble for Officer Ranks, Tactics and/or Mental for NCO Ranks.

For purposes of this game you stay in one area or the other unless special circumstances require a mini-mulligan of sorts like when we needed more Lance Commanders and people that chose that could re-jigger their characters to have those skills and correspondingly get promoted differently.

As for the extreme range stuff...

Adding 6 is right in line with the previous ranges of 2 and 4 so that makes total sense.

I either wouldn't monkey with the damage at all or keep the -1 across the board for energy weapons too.  That's my 2 c-bills.


Well part of the reason, i was twinking with this, was that i was contemplating reducing the energy weapon option to one, if this gave Missile/ballistic a big enough bump.

I'm not sure it does.
Lucius McMurphy
 Alt, 1845 posts
 NCO1 - Corporal
 Callsign - 'Burner'
Sat 16 May 2015
at 03:28
 msg #957
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
They need a larger bump?

It already costs half the xp that it takes to increase Energy and both of them have the option to make their weapon type the equivalent of Streak.  Both Missile and Ballistic also have specialty ammo and capabilities that Energy can't match with the inclusion of lighter missiles, ballistics and new rockets giving them range over all but the heaviest Energy weapons that are hard pressed to keep up because of heat requirements.

:P

What crack have you been smoking.
Kitten
 GM, 6171 posts
Sat 16 May 2015
at 03:56
 msg #958
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
No.  reduce the cost of energy down to one option slot instead of two.

or something.
Lucius McMurphy
 Alt, 1846 posts
 NCO1 - Corporal
 Callsign - 'Burner'
Sat 16 May 2015
at 04:10
 msg #959
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Oh...

Nah I think what you have right now is working pretty good to me.  If you have energy loose half their power at extreme range and the trade off is opening up a whole additional slot and the cost of it drops down to regular...it would make Luc even more deadly with a whole new option available.  Much as I could like that...I don't think it's for the best.
Alaric Drusus
 player, 40 posts
Sat 16 May 2015
at 05:21
 msg #960
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
I've seen 'upkeep' mentioned in several places and references to things like having your own repair team. I haven't found anything yet that offers specific details on this. Also how does one obtain conventional units to bring along?
Kitten
 GM, 6172 posts
Sat 16 May 2015
at 11:34
 msg #961
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Buying tanks and stuff is like equipment theres an availability roll on the TRO.

Number of conventional units may not exceed the characters Rank.
Weight of the conventional units may not exceed Mechwarriors mech weight.

Unless you have Conventional Cavalry for an alt you cant take Unit level Support conventional.
Unless you have a Technician for an Alt, you cant take Salvage units.
Akarian Euclid
 player, 408 posts
 R3 - 1st Lt.
Sat 16 May 2015
at 11:50
 msg #962
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Mmmm I'd forgotten the conventional units weights can't surpass mech weight rule, that's a bit of a bummer for Conventional Cavalry option.
Maybe the alt should boost that limit.

This message was last edited by the player at 12:15, Sat 16 May 2015.

Akarian Euclid
 player, 409 posts
 R3 - 1st Lt.
Sat 16 May 2015
at 11:56
 msg #963
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Also if energy only cost 1 option, I'd be dropping 150xp worth of CAT and specialities instantly, I doubt the option would ever be worth taking.
Alaric Drusus
 player, 41 posts
Sat 16 May 2015
at 13:26
 msg #964
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
For options, I'm thinking Damage Magnet, Tactics, and <maybe Noble or Well-Equipped or Tinker or X-Tech> -or- Damage Magnet and Energy Weapons.

Why do decisions have to be so hard?
Kitten
 GM, 6173 posts
Sat 16 May 2015
at 14:11
 msg #965
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Dont forget, the Javelins are sort of neat, but there's an often forgotten, +1 hazard check penalty for them.  They're... top heavy and not balanced well.

(Its in the TRO, really.)

Luc, Roger, Reyvak, all deal with the risk of falling down more.
Alaric Drusus
 player, 42 posts
Sat 16 May 2015
at 15:00
 msg #966
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Good to know!

There have been several versions of the game are we generally using the most recent WK/Catalyst material or the older stuff from FASA?

To clarify, the die size increase from Mech Specialist applies to all pilot rolls, and the +1/level of Hazard Checks is only for checks related to falls. So, if you had both at 1, you'd roll 2d7+1 for pilot checks to avoid falls, is that correct?
Kitten
 GM, 6174 posts
Sat 16 May 2015
at 18:39
 msg #967
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
That is the way it's written, the dice increase mechanics is a little in 'beta' testing, since they were only added as of last mission.

It's being tried out and the kinks are being worked on, if it works out,they might all just be 'increase' dice size, and at some near date be a simple 2d8
Alaric Drusus
 player, 43 posts
Sun 17 May 2015
at 03:07
 msg #968
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Here's where I am now, with regard to character creation. Thoughts?

Experience Log Wallet
EntryAmountCurrentTotal EntryAmountCurrentTotal
Character Creation350350350 Character Creation3,200,0003,200,0003,200,000
Accuracy 3-100250350 Javelin-10F-2,361,840838,1603,200,000
Physical 2-50200350 Heirloom Mech-118,092720,0683,200,000
Mental 1-25175350 Walking the Edge-300,000420,0683,200,000
Damage Magnet 1-25150350     
Tactics 1-25125350     
Hazard Check 1-25100350     
Prepared for Worse-1585350     
Evasive Movement-1570350     
Damage Magnet 2-5020350     
Bodyguard-1010350     

Attributes
Accuracy3Base tn 5+
Physical2Base tn 6+
Mental1Base tn 7+

Character Options
Edge1-
Damage Magnet2Repair 16af Standard or 8af FerroFib armor after a mission
Tactics1+1 bonus to pilot skills when rolling for Initiative
Hazard Checks1+1 bonus to pilot skills to avoid falling

Specialties
Damage MagnetPrepared for Worse
Hazard CheckEvasive Movement
TacticsBodyguard

Rank 
Bank420,068
MechJVN-10F Javelin
Linkhttps://web.archive.org/web/20...25/bm-Javelin1f.html

This message was last edited by the player at 15:04, Sun 17 May 2015.

Lucius McMurphy
 Alt, 1847 posts
 NCO1 - Corporal
 Callsign - 'Burner'
Sun 17 May 2015
at 03:20
 msg #969
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Looks pretty solid.
Kitten
 GM, 6175 posts
Sun 17 May 2015
at 05:01
 msg #970
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
We just lost hank tonight, he's departing the campaign for various reasons, so it looks like you can have his spot Alaric.
Lucius McMurphy
 Alt, 1849 posts
 NCO1 - Corporal
 Callsign - 'Burner'
Sun 17 May 2015
at 05:03
 msg #971
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Sorry to see you go Hank.  Wish you the best.
Akarian Euclid
 player, 423 posts
 R3 - 1st Lt.
Mon 18 May 2015
at 13:26
 msg #972
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Can someone remind me if physical attacks from inside a building hex to a unit outside a building are legal? I know the reverse is illegal by TW (Outside unit to inside unit), but can't find anything on inside to outside.
Alaric Drusus
 player, 44 posts
Mon 18 May 2015
at 14:43
 msg #973
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
So, other than availability rolls and some supplies and/or crew, I'm pretty much ready to go. I'm not sure what I might want to use the rolls for, any suggestions? Will someone please re-link the post describing the costs of crew? I've lost the link to that one. Are the costs listed there both the initial and upkeep costs? And, how often is upkeep charged?

Thanks!

This message was last edited by the player at 14:44, Mon 18 May 2015.

Akarian Euclid
 player, 428 posts
 R3 - 1st Lt.
Mon 18 May 2015
at 15:33
 msg #974
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
If you mean conventional unit upkeep costs, you can't buy them without rank. If you mean the personal technician and other costs for storage and what not, I believe they are applied after each mission, though credits and experience don't normally get finalized and made available until around 3 missions or so on average have been completed. (Usually when the timeline/story is advancing)
Alaric Drusus
 player, 45 posts
Mon 18 May 2015
at 15:44
 msg #975
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
Can you still purchase personal technicians and/or put items in storage with C-bills from character creation?
Akarian Euclid
 player, 431 posts
 R3 - 1st Lt.
Mon 18 May 2015
at 19:09
 msg #976
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
You specify your starting levels of personal technician, storages, and so forth.

I'm pretty sure any gear you make with acquisition rolls during character creation you can also store.

However, I don't believe Kitten is allowing you for instance to buy 4 spare medium lasers with no rolls, and store them away.
Alaric Drusus
 player, 46 posts
Mon 18 May 2015
at 19:12
 msg #977
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
That's fair. I would not expect otherwise.
Lucius McMurphy
 Alt, 1850 posts
 NCO1 - Corporal
 Callsign - 'Burner'
Mon 18 May 2015
at 19:18
 msg #978
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
But you can store the stuff you removed from your mech as well as anything that you use an acquisition roll on...

Which would be the only way to 'stockpile' a normal piece of gear...paying for it with both the chance of not making the roll as well as using up a roll that could be used on rarer things.
Svetlana Arnadottir
 Alt, 44 posts
 R2 - 2nd Lt.
 Snow Witch
Mon 18 May 2015
at 20:01
 msg #979
Re: Modifications?  Who wants those things? Bah!
You have to remember you cant roll for anything more than once, so certain things take long term planning.

Especially for larger mechs.

You have to stockpile things like Endo and Ferro Fib, if you want to make the change over to using them.

Among energy pilots, stuff like IS/DS HS is pretty popular.
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