I failed the scout roll horribly, i got a 4 on it...

also rolled for decompression, I'm good :D
This message was last edited by the player at 07:14, Sat 02 Aug 2014.

Ugh~

Teri, do you want to withdraw from the mission?

You're down to physical combat for offense, and now you've fallen.

(ugh)

Make a new pilot check for your MW to avoid MW damage from the fall, if you fail this one, make a roll (2d6) to see where your MW took damage.

The Panther is out.

I wonder what it would cost to get a second Panther arm and keep a second weapons system in it.  I'm thinking 2 LRM 5 racks and ammo or maybe an AC-2 and ammo for our next mission in a vacuum.  What would work as something effective yet producing a lot less heat?

What do you guys think?

something really fast to close with the enemy..and then have 10 machine guns...

In reply to Donovan O'Brien (msg # 839):

Until something breaches a torso and your ammo gets hit. ;)

Piranha (Clan Diamond Shark Mech) is pretty spot on for that concept. 12 MGs at close range will eat through just about anything.

AC/2 is a nice weapon in the particular scenario. Range over damage, with the possibility for decompression. Panthers are a support Mech. They aren't meant to be in the front lines. Even with the ER PPC, its not all that effective in point blank scenarios. The SRM 4 on the standard design helps that inevitably, however when you get swarmed like that, its tough on any mech. The Panther is a great Mech though, so don't let the current scenario bear too much weight on you Teri.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:00, Sat 02 Aug 2014.

Well, the whitworth is a support mech, I let the mission parameters get ahead of my common sense...

In reply to Donovan O'Brien (msg # 841):

Not sure if you did.  Your mech was still nearly whole when you go knocked out; even an Atlas would have been knocked out by the crit rolls made against you.

In reply to Teri Knight (msg # 838):

You might want to consider the following loadout:

Trade the ERPPC for an ER Large Laser (or even just a regular LL) That opens 2 tons.

You could then add 2 ML's, or an SRM 2 + Ammo. If you dropped 2 Heat Sinks, then you could go with 2 Streak/2's + ammo, or an SRM6 + Ammo.

That way you would still have some decent long ranged damage with the LL, but also have some OK skirmishing weaponry.

Also, I would move the big gun to the torso regardless. Just my 2 cents :)

You're just trying to make me feel better. It's an established Irish tradition to wallow in self-misery...and of course Guinness, which while waiting on you folks to win...I've already had my fair share today (and probably lurking on the morrow)...

That's a lot of tech for a non eden mechwarrior.

I think dropping heat sinks or jump jets for a secondary weapon system or two would work better.  A few lasers for point defense when not sniping is all she really needs, i think Teri loves her ER PPC and wont part with it easily.

I'm not looking to lose the ER PPC.  I'm looking at getting a second Panther arm with a 7 ton weapon loadout that generates less heat for situations like this airless world mission.  (If I can generate half the heat of an ER PPC, half value heat sinks would be enough.)

Oh wow, I didn't realize she had JJ's. Yea, I would drop those.

Honestly, though, even if you do nothing else, I would try and move the PPC to a side torso if possible. Arm mounted weapons are too vulnerable, especially on lighter mechs.

Would need torso criticals for this... keep in mind modification rules...

Power Loaders spoil you sometimes.
o.O

It's true, I am only barely familiar with the normal modification rules XD.

I love my power loadrr, just wish it was a bit larger.

Mech size has been a subject of many discussions between kitten and I! Thoug

Power Loaders also have tonnage caps for weight of weapons in the shoulders and hands.  True you might be able to have a single mount like mentioned with a LAC/20 or LGR but I imagine the same system used (splitting up of crits) would apply to a Large or PPC meaning more chances of it getting taken out.

Yea, I have pretty much given up on every mounting any sort of large heavy weapon on my Loader :(

I have thought about doing a double arm mount Large Laser or something like that, but it's just too heavy, and having to consider how easy it would be for it to be disabled in that kind of configuration has really soured me on dedicating so much of my weapons load to it.

I think that after this operation, I am going to switch out to the LRM-6's in the torso, and then *maybe* some weapons in the arms, and probably just leave it like that 90% of the time. The X-3 is just way too slow for any sort of short range loadout unless you are fighting in terrain meant for an urbanmech :P

You need to get into a X-3a or X-3c for the tonnage bump.

Oh definitely, but the funny thing is that almost all of that tonnage goes into a bigger engine (which I do definitely need) The actual available combat load for the X-3a is only barely bigger than the X-3's once you fit it with all the fancy upgrades and stuff.

So yea, definitely want to upgrade to the X-3a, but it isn't really going to change my loadout options very much from what I already have. :/

I'm running my AC/6 double arm mounted, but lets be honest, with my speed profile, 2 ML's would have been more effecient, allowing me to run a larger amount of heat dinks, to compensate, and still have room for both my targeting comp, and a plug system.

4 t in ML's
1 t targeting comp
1 t plug
4 t heat sinks.

The extra range on the AC/6 is nice, but yea, ballistics just don't seem very viable until you get to the 40t range. It's why I am moving to missiles. I just don't have the speed to make shorter ranged weapons like ML's work, but I don't have the tonnage to make any of the decently ranged non-missile weapons work. LRM's seem like the only realistic option for the kinds of mech's I will be running.

And the double hand mount is just too vulnerable, especially in the vacuum. I mean, right now, if I lose either side torso, 90% of my combat load just disappears. And either arm loses me 60% of my combat load. I am not a huge fan of that. :(

Bitch bitch bitch.

You sound like a pack of fish wives.

In reply to Kitten (msg # 857):

I didn't know fish had wives, or husbands either.

What can I say?  I like teaming up with bitchy fish wives cause they are predictable ;)

I tend to favor Mediums myself. Lights are fun, but a few extra tons in the next weight class goes a long ways. Especially in my typical style of play. However, I'm enjoying this and have a feeling things would have panned out differently given a different scenario. I have faith in the "vision" so am on board with seeing how this all pans out from a player's perspective.