@Willa: Yeah there is no reason to not use a superior version of an implement, although the character builder goes very odd with superior implement daggers.

@Author: Phelan has also received a wishlist update.

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I do like the idea  of the shopping list. It allows us to see if we can grab something we need somewhat more urgently sooner.

Also Willa... Why a wand? Did you mean Accurate Rod of Corruption?

Phelan's Request: Goblin Totem Superior Crossbow +1 (Level 2) [Forgotten Realms campaign Guide]
Cost: 2 tokens
Cost at next level: 1 token
Purchase Preference: Next level (For reduction in cost).
This message was last edited by the player at 15:37, Sun 10 Aug 2014.

Whoops :O  Edited & Thanks ^_^

Oh I should mention this, please tell me WHAT book your gear is located in, because I don't always 100% agree with the magic items as in the books, sometimes they are ludicrously under-powered, other times, over.  So I'd frankly like to take a look at them first and then decide to either give you the vanilla (updated) or modified version.  This would apply to your class powers too.  Some are ludicrously OP and others are completely impotent.  Looking at you Mind's Shadow, Looking At You...
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:31, Sun 10 Aug 2014.

Done!

Thread updated again with yet another couple of changes, also with item info and reference to source book. :)

Uh...aren't any of you going to do anything else?  You guys did alot of admin but your Rp posts?  There is still a story to go through folks.

Well, I was waiting for Drex to post before moving on, but okay.

Sorry I will post now... XP Power was off and no internet access.
And I fixed my Surge Value, thank you Phelan I did not notes that.

I'll put up my wish list in a bit.
But I did just get my axe that I wanted.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:01, Tue 12 Aug 2014.

On the subject of "waiting for [insert name here] to post" its been an issue that has cropped up a few times in the past, so lets discuss the options to handle it.  First off the general rule I'd like us all to stick by, if [insert name here] hasn't posted then you should go ahead and make your post.  If it goes against all sense/logic then alternatively CONTACT myself and the person who you would like to post before you directly via rmail.  If he/she/it doesn't come back to us then I'll make a judgment call based on what I know of the character and "NPC" it for that post.

This game is already slow because of the play-by-post format, which has generally made it a superior rping experience, however pausing for a day or two because we are waiting for one person to post because they are either busy or unable to reach rpol is a bit much.

Your thoughts?
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:12, Tue 12 Aug 2014.

Also I've deleted the Player Character Thread.

I've discovered this little gem while looking through the MM3;

Identical Effects That a Save Can End: If a
creature is subjected to identical effects that a
save canend, including ongOing damage, it ignores all
but one of those effects. For example, if a creature
is dazed (save ends) and then is attacked and again
dazed (save ends), it ignores the second effect,
since it is identical to the effect it is already
suffering.
A creature never makes multiple saving throws against
identical effects. It does, however, make separate
saving throws against effects that aren't identical,
even if they contain the same condition. For example,
dazed (save ends) and dazed and immobilized (save
ends both) are not identical effects, so a creature
must make separate saving throws against them. See
also "Ongoing Damage," Player'S Handbook, page 278.

Overlapping Durations: When a creature is
subjected to identical effects that end at different
times, it ignores all the effects but the one that
has the most time remaining. Effects that a save can
end work differently, since it's unknown when they're
going to end. You, therefore, track effects that a
save can end separately from effects that end at
specific times. See also "Durations," Player's
Handbook, page 278.

Perhaps we should just make a couple of small, more rp focused posts for a day or two whilst waiting, so the story doesn't catapult too far ahead?

If that is still too slow, then no waiting will do :)

As for the conditions thing, I was pretty sure that was how it worked.  Similarly I suspect that the biggest effect applies, so if you have ongoing damage 3 then get ongoing 5, 5 overwrites the 3.

That said, I would also expect ongoing damage to be type specific.  Meaning you could be taking ongoing acid damage and ongoing fire damage at the same time.  That doesn't seem to be the case, though.

I've also finished some updates to the Ancerenth Character Creation Book.  Biggest change has been to the Weavers Racial Stat Block.

Sophonts
Keywords have been added to most of the racial powers that lacked them.
(o) Deseekay - Scaling for Paragon and Epic tier has been added to Grace of the Wilds, and a racial feat called Greater Grace of the Wilds has been added.
(o) Doola Tywuar - Echo of Stone (racial feat) has received a larger bonus +4 instead of +2.
(o) Weavers - Alot of reworking of the racial stat block and the addition of a new racial feat Mimicry.  And of course the Monarch and Soldier racial feats have been removed.

Feats
(o) Draconic Heratige - modified the healing effect and added a new effect line.
(o) Human Perseverance - removed petrified, no such condition exists in dnd 4th edition.
(o) Leviathan's Gift - a new racial feat for the musadi, may require some more balancing.
(o) From the Deep - a new racial feat for the musadi.

Okay cool - question re Weavers:

With the Racial Feat Talented, can you make such combinations as a Monarch Soldier Weaver?  Or a Crafter Monarch Weaver?  Or a Soldier Crafter Weaver?

The feat says it does not affect abilities and skills, so presumably you would just get the power associated with your 'talented' caste?

  Fancy that!  Well when you do modular design like this something like this is bound to happen.  But yes you could, though your size and speed would not become something you could alter, you would essentially be able to get the distinct racial feature of your choice and that would be it.

So a question, if I may.  I was playing about with Hybrid builds and came across a Sentinel/Cleric combination, which seems very nice.  However, the class only gets 1 heal in the builder.  This appears to be because both hybrids grant Healing Word (Hybrid).  Does anyone know if the builder is correct and you can only ever have 1 iteration of the same power, or if it is just unable show Healing Word (hybrid) twice?

Thanks :)

In reply to Willa (msg # 988):

Hybrid you say... I have spoken about building one for so long with the Author but according to him and OTHERS, *lightning strikes a lone hill and thunder roars*, they are lest than the two sums.

Don't know the Sentinel class, but I would think you should be able to use the Healing Word Power twice. because it comes from two different Hybrid class features, but I will have to read the Sentinel entry first before I can make a definitive judgment.

The problem stems from that Hybrid characters are half and half -1.  So the only why you are going to get them to work is if they are houseruled into being decent.

Or if you can create a mechanic that only surfaces when you hybrid, and this is the main reason I want to create one.

and a 1/2-1= -1/2 that would mean that you character is 0=1/2+(1/2-1)
This message was last edited by the player at 07:23, Wed 13 Aug 2014.

Oh, I don't know if I can create one that works, but I have plenty of ideas.

The Sentinel/Cleric option is perhaps one of the strongest.

A pure Sentinel is listed in the character builder under the leader role, but it is really a Leader/Striker/Controller Hybrid itself.  Its biggest problem is that it does not have any enounter powers.  Instead it gets multiple uses of a combined attack power, that allows the sentinel and its pet to both attack the same target, in the same round.

That's pretty good, but is not very versatile and not really suited for a leader's role.

If you hybrid with a Cleric, suddenly you gain access to all Druid Encounter Powers and all the cleric ones too!

Also the Sentinel normally only has 1 At Will (its pet supposedly accounting for the second).  But if you go Hybrid, you get a second At Will power for free.

Then, there is AC.  One of the biggest problems with Hybrids seems to be that their AC tends to disappear and you have to invest feats to get them back.  Not so with the Cleric.  Swap Healer's Lore for Battle Cleric's Lore and you gain access to Scale Mail without pre-reqs. and, randomly, an additional +2 shield bonus on top!

As you also still get the druid's pet, I was going to choose Druid of the Wastes and gain a living Zephyr, which has an aura 2.  Anything in the aura is lightly obscured to enemies (and only enemies).  Take Hidden Sniper with ranged at wills and you suddenly have a permanent +2 to all your defences and attack rolls as long as your pet is alive (Hidden Sniper gives you combat advantage on any ranged attacks whilst partially concealed).  That is, if my understanding of the rules is correct anyway.

So yeah, many many bonuses for the Sentinel if you hybrid it with a Cleric, very few drawbacks.

Other Hybrids I like the look of are:

Fighter/Cavalier Like the Sentinel, the Cavalier has a lot of nice bonuses, but suffers with power choice.  Hybridising removes the restriction on power choices and makes very little difference to the class otherwise.  You lose Plate Armour, but as this set-up does not really benefit from the Hybrid Feat, that plate armour is easily accessed.

The Cavalier gains +2 surges, an aura 1 mark and +4 to initiative rolls.  Plus you gain the Fighter's mark and combat challenge.

Assassin/Rogue  The assassin has the assassin shroud power, which allows it to shroud any single enemy within 10 squares for a minor action.  The Hybrid version only allows you to have 2 shrouds active at a time, but that is not a problem, because there is no reason to have more than one shroud active at any given moment.  Grab the assassin's Cruel Shroud Feat and you get permanent combat advantage against any target you shroud.  Say hello to permanent sneak damage for your rogue powers.  Especially nice for one armed with a superior crossbow:

Since both classes use the same stat for attacks, which also conveniently happens to be used for AC, you'll probably be getting at least a +10 attack roll at level 1 with a human (+5 Dex mod, +3 superior crossbow, +2 combat advantage), have a respectable AC of 17 (10+5dex+leather armour) and normally be dealing 1d10+2d6+5 damage on a single at Will attack (Avg. of about 17 damage, with a possible 27!).

I gather Sentinel, Cavalier and Assassin are from the Essential's books?  Also I've recently realized that there has been one kind of reward I've been neglecting to hand out.  And that is Milestones.  You are supposed to get them after having completed two encounters without taking an extended rest.  That has happened at least twice so far.  Though given that you are busy with an RP encounter right now you'll get the milestone if you succeed at it in a timely manner.

Yes you can fail at an RP encounter, its not a skill challenge but if you fail to meet your goal in some way then you haven't won it.

I dunno, probably?  I am just using the Insider's Character Builder. Let's see...

Cavalier's and Sentinel's source is apparently Heroes of the Forgotten Kingdoms.
Assassin is from Dragon Magazine 379.

@Author: On another subject. When does Drex get a chance to save against or detect his affliction. Or will you handle that, like we are doing in the RL game.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:45, Thu 14 Aug 2014.

That is being handled behind the screen.  [Rolls some dice, sees the result and shakes his head while whistling nonchalantly.]

  o-o  Well this was a sobering and thoughtful video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU