Following a suggestion, I've decided to make a board purely for players to chat to each other and leave public messages to each other outside of character.  This thread is not subject to the rules governing posts.  Just the general rules of this site.

Yay! Now we can dis the DM without him doing anything about it! :)

In reply to Lambent (msg # 2):

:P

Where to Start... ;P

So many possibilities...Let's start with the problem that we don't have nearly enough magical items and the fact that I am not an invincible god-like creature of DOOOOOOOOM! :D

That is defensively the DM's fault. I even asked, but nooooo. No oebber magical items for you and no you may not be a fallen god or the offspring one of the Demon Princes! Hehehe XD

I learnt my lesson about giving players more then they deserve.  The Era of Monty Haul campaigning is over.  You will usually have to earn what you get.  Otherwise Suspicious Videogame Generosity may apply.

In reply to Author (msg # 7):

We're not even getting mounts you damn monster D:
I want my Kaetyma to ride a giant chariot drawn by... things!

Hehe... things! I can only imagine what things these could be. Gout-horses, Camel-bears or... gust maybe 12 dozen duck-snakes.

In reply to Drex (msg # 9):

I'm totally game for duck-snakes

Right...duck snakes...

Can I have a floating disc that spews yellow steam beneath it then? I don't want to be seen with these lunatics when we're travelling across the countryside.

X3  It is a possibility, but why yellow steam?  Also it would be rather expensive.  You can't start with it but you could get it later, just gonna cost ya a pretty penny.

'yellow steam' aka 'mustard gas'

Why must everything be about money with you? What difference would a flying, mustard gas spewing, disc really make in your game?

It would devastate the land, kill all of his "pretty" monsters... and maybe even your party members. ;P

In reply to Lambent (msg # 13):

:P  Everything has a price.  EVERYTHING.

Well I've thought about it and after a rather long string of terrible performances I've decided to put OthelloDrake out of the game.  He simply wasn't shaping up to be the role-player this game and its company (party) deserves.

In reply to Author (msg # 16):

Fair enough I suppose. I mean we do sorta want to start sometime too <.<

Well you have a leader combat support now. Hope I don't do too badly as an Artificer. >>

Welcome to our group of miss-match misfits Phelan. Hope we can live up to your expectations of not letting you die a most terrible and agonizing death imaginable. because that is what the DM has in store for us. <_<

Most assuredly...this DM has a penchant for killing, maiming and generally stomping on anyone in the leader role. I don't why, exactly, but they tend to die very quickly and in the most horrible and painful ways.

Oh good. So it'll be like what happens when I've GMed in the past. Except replace 'leader' with 'party' and the reason with 'because they consisted solely of Strikers'. And because my D20 loved to crit.

Hehe, unlucky them...

It was an accident! I did say sorry afterwards, although they didn't really buy it. Especially the poor assassin who got critted twice in a row.

Although I accept no responsibility for the pit trap they all fell into.

Yes, I remember that day well. And I have learned out of that terrible experience. And will never again ask a Leader role character to go and take care of the last range monster... Truly a sad day that was...{which technically did not even happen} e_e

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 23):

We'll just have to keep our eyes peeled for thous nasty trap things. The crits we cant do any ting about.

Lucky for me, a saving throw can turn a crit into a normal hit, so I'll think about you poor saps when the monsters are banging your heads in with the biggest objects of mass destruction they can lift.

Always remember that you don't need to fast, you just need to be faster than the slowest person in the party.

Mind you...how much would a pair of Boots of Running Faster Than You cost?

I have every intention of enjoying my ranged capabilities. And my ability to just climb away from danger, heheheh.

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 27):

And I'll merrily wade into said danger... since that is what Defenders do :| Probably... xD

*Peeeeeeeeeks?* Howdy folks, my apologies for taking so bloody long and holding up the show. x3;;

>w>

<w<

Wow I uh...guess I should have taken a username after my actual character.

The GM will change your username once your character is accepted. Don't worry.

You should have your proper character name now.

In reply to Author (msg # 31):

Hmm? I do? Test test!

Just in case you all were wondering about it, most of my posts will not be as long as the one with which I will generally open a story thread with.

And so the first branch is written.  I should of course point out that you'll often have a choice of quests to go on rather then just having one quest you HAVE to do.  Taking a page from PC RPG games I should not to you guys that there is actually a MAIN STORYLINE though there are only a handful of singular quests related to it.  Most Quests relate to the Main Story in some way.  At the outset this may be easier to see then others so for the sake of Player Interest I'll point these out.

There are of course side quests which tell smaller stories not always directly or indirectly related to the main story.  These are small and very focused.  Often taking the form of simple "track down and kill or obtain X."

In reply to Author (msg # 34):

And with that we pay our tribute to Inconsequentia, the deity of side quests :P

That is so good and ridiculous I shall make use of it!

In reply to Author (msg # 36):

It's from Dungeons of Dredmor xD

Really? Mrs cake?! You put in Mrs Cake?! I'm going to beat you with a stick...

You guys got Mrs Cake?! I'm so jealous!

There is nothing wrong with a little shout out.  And besides its HARDLY obvious.  X3  But yes I will admit to some inspiration from the discworld character and some ideas from other sources.

Hey Phelan Don't get distracted :P I have posted and you must reply before the DM posts again today. Oh and check your rMail I send you one. But Yes Cake would be nice. Then again the cake she could be a lie... XD Yes Lambent I deserve to be beaten with a stick too.

In reply to Drex (msg # 41):

And I replied to both. :P It just took me time to come up with one.

Okay cool.

On a different tangent...I am thinking of starting a Changeling The Lost game some time in the near future if any of you gents are interested in a storytelling game.

I would not mind.

I'm always game :D

I'd be Interested. I've played White Wolf made games before; although I've been more interested in the werewolf portion of WOD, I'd still be interested in Changeling.

I will need time to track down the Changeling sourcebook. And the WOD sourcebook.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:04, Tue 26 Nov 2013.

Werewolf is an interesting thought but it doesn't really work well in the forum format sadly since the game is to action-based versus the other WoD games

Fair enough. Are there any other sourcebooks you recommend for Changeling?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:27, Tue 26 Nov 2013.

link to another game

hope that works...read the game info if you are interested

So can I assume that is your games post?

Yep...wrote the intro and some house rules and whatnot

Tony said his is also interested in joining your game, if you are still looking for players.

In reply to Drex (msg # 53):

No limit as such to how many players since it is online so he is welcome to join

Cool :D

Well sometime over the next few days Xeela will be joining you guys!
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:38, Thu 05 Dec 2013.

Hi guys I have an suggestion: Why don't we add our class, health, surges and AC in our BIO section at Character Details.

That is actually something I had not thought about, I totally endorse this.

Just so you  know...I'm still here but Lambent has no reason to actually say or comment at the moment so he's just cruising along. :)

Yeah I figured, thus my rule of posting even when most folks haven't posted something.

Hey guys, take a look at the New House rules!  Share your thoughts and opinions, also take a look at the General Announcements thread for some minor details that effects you all.

I don't know how busy all of you are at this time of year but I had thought we might take a small two day break (31st of Dec to 1st of January) considering I believe that unlike myself - who will be very much at home tomorrow, for lack of money and anything else to do - the rest of you have numerous activities tomorrow and will need at least a day to recover from them.

Let me know what you all think.

I will be semi present during that time, but I don't mind taking that break I suppose

I don't actually have a life, so I'll be at home during that time as well.

I dun goofed, now Vayshore will eat me in my sleep.

Okay, to make sure with the tokens we all EACH get 1 Wealth, 2 Fame and 1 Fortune token, right? We don't have to split them up/pool them together?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:35, Fri 03 Jan 2014.

No, you do not each get 1 Wealth, 2 Fame and 1 Fortune token.  The party as a whole get 1 Wealth, 2 Fame and 1 Fortune token to be shared amongst you all.

So I just have a question then for those that DO use rituals.

How do you account for the material cost of a ritual you have in your ritual book. Using any measure of any token seems a bit much considering some rituals (even high level ones) only cost about 10-50 gp.

And do we just assume that we have enough cash on hand for the normal day to day stuff like inns, horses, food, normal equipment and the like? The worth of a Wealth Token, as I understand it in the rules is a lot more than most alchemical items and a large amount of miscellaneous gear and non-magical items.

The question also comes up in regards to mastering rituals as well as casting them. While wealth tokens might work well with, say, Enchant Magic Item... It might not mix so well with Brew Potion or Make Whole. That's just me personally. Rituals such as Create Campsite and similar have a low cost for their benefit.

Also, how will Disenchant Magic Item mix with the wealth token system? We get a certain portion of the item's value in Residuum by normal rules.

Mostly concerned about the ones I have currently, especially since any of them are likely to come up soon enough. Particularly Enchant Magic Item.

First off, when you disenchant magic items you will always get 1 Wealth token's worth of Residuum.

When purchasing a ritual for the first time you get the materials for it as well.  Thereafter, when you need more ritual components they are always considered to be Mundane Goods.  So for these first few levels ritual components will be expensive, but once you get to level 5+ you will have a chance to totally not have to pay for the components of rituals 2-3 levels beneath ya or just 1 half of a token.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:35, Sat 04 Jan 2014.

I was out the whole day yesterday. So who then will keep our Tokens? Will you Author create a separate post where you will put our rewards, seeing as it will be a group loot. Something like a bag full of treasure, or a chest?

Meh...sounds like a lot of extra admin to me but as the GM wills it.

And anyway...you can swim in all your gold...

It is actually a lot simpler then standard and more flexible, the flexibility was the primary reason for its selection.

Dunno about 'flexible'

Gold allows you to haggle and get discount opening the way for role-playing. A token is just...well...a token that doesn't mean anything to me personally. It's like playing World of Warcraft and trading in a Raid Token for a piece of armour. There's distinction between how much something is worth really...it's just 1 Wealth Token.

The dwarven smith can't sell his Dwarven Armour +2 cheaper to you because he is a dwarf and it's easier for him to make or inflate the price of Elven Armour because he can't get the materials in a meaningful but not overbearing way. The difference of say 1200 gp for the standard Dwarven Armour from the dwarf smith would be say 1000 gp - not much, but enough that heroes may go out of their way to find him.

Just my two cents.

I would support that notion, weren't it for the whole "The game is already fuckin slow as is" aspect of this being bound to the limitations of forum posting. So I do support the tokens for simplification. I'd rather just spend those abstract thingies than go on a hunt for some rare materials to get a bit of a discount, if that means we actually end up getting somewhere meaningful.

I understand your problem.  Though I have always physically been bad at haggling.  So normally PCs get away with alot more then they should because of that.  I honestly did not change to this system to deny roleplay experiences.

The current system puts alot more role-playing power into the player's hands.  And presents currencies in different forms to standard material wealth - i.e. favour which represents luck/karma and fame which is basically your star power.

If you all need more material to get to grips with this system here are the links to the original articles I got this system from.

http://at-will.omnivangelist.n...ot-powerless-part-1/
http://at-will.omnivangelist.n...ot-powerless-part-2/
http://at-will.omnivangelist.n...hieving-your-dreams/
http://at-will.omnivangelist.n...ot-powerless-part-4/

I do see Lambent's point thou it does feel impersonal if you refer to our coins, gemstones and loot in general as Tokens. But the Tokens are simpler for administrative purposes, so it ultimately up to the DM, if he is to busy with other things or there is to much pressure on him and the Tokens help him to keep the game running smoothly he should use the Tokens. But he must remember that they are impersonal to the player and mean just as the word stats Tokens of Coupons and no real value is placed on them.

But now to what I actually want to discuss

I think we need to discuss what our character are going to do here to speed the game up.

What road do we think is the best?
My opinion the Main road that the messenger travels, just in case the problem is the road traveled and not the town of Kyssean: Mugger, Bandits, Barbarian hordes attacking the roads for weapons food and money.

And instead of a carriage how a bout rented mounts for the group. Seeing as Drex is not in the mood to talk why don't one of you ask Akkorrin if the Guild has mounts we may borrow...
This message was last edited by the player at 12:20, Sun 05 Jan 2014.

I agree that we should retrace the Messenger's route to ensure that the route itself is safe. The method of travel, however, is more of a concern.

Would Enkii be able to use a mount? As far as I can tell his build would not allow the use of one, and he'd need a Huge size mount if it did. For that matter, it's unlikely (though we could ask) if the guild stocks mounts for the use of Jubei (probably, would also need a Huge size mount) and Phelan (certainly, although he could probably just use Jubei or Enkii as an impromptu mount. While the rules allow it, I'm just not sure that at his size (small) your average horse would be suitable as a mount).

A carriage is also more defensible than a series of mounts. However it would need to be large enough and strong enough to carry Enkii and Jubei. The rest of us could perch on various locations inside and outside of the carriage.

There is always the option to travel on foot, but that will be much slower (for all intents and purposes the group will be travelling at the long-term equivalent of Speed 4 as that is the speed of the slowest group member unless he desires to walk around unarmoured at which point we will be at Speed 5). However it has the benefits of not having to worry about mounts or carriages.

Given that it's already been 4 days since the last messenger returned, I really doubt that time is of the essence here, so it wouldn't matter if we really go fast or not. As for the idea to make sure that the street is passable or not, I'm okay with "face checking" if that way is clear. Just walking the way would also have the advantage of not really costing anything, as well as not having the awkward situation of "oh.. and then we lost all the mounts in the fight" happening.

On that subject, I just noticed nobody has their speed written up on the character sheet thread.  I had forgotten to add that to my list.  Would you all be so kind as to update that for each of you?

Just incase this slipped you guys by, probably because you have not become used to the new potential currency system, you have enough currency to acquire either 2 level 1 magic items or to get 4 potions or rituals of the same level.  Another option is to buy a level 2-3 magic item.

Okay so we take the path by foot, that's cool with me. Seeing that the travel part should be quite quick from our perspective.

Oh Yes is there anything is your people would like to spend our great fortunes on?

I could master a level 1 ritual! GM, how long would the trip be on foot?

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 83):

What Ritual were you thinking of?

In reply to Drex (msg # 84):

I was kidding. :P I can't really think of a useful level 1 ritual that would be worth paying tokens to learn and use. Traveller's Chant might be nice, but I'm not a Bard. Only other one that stands out to me might be Create Campsite (except that I don't have a decent enough Nature skill to make it consistently worth it), but depending on the length of travel it wouldn't be worth it.

That said, if anyone feels we really need a certain Level 1 Ritual (that isn't a Bard ritual because I am not multiclassing into Bard, not that I can), go ahead. For the most part though, I really was kidding about the Ritual.

Well its about a 50 mile walk on the roads (Kyssea is about 30 miles away as a bird flies from Galdion).  Akkorrin gave you the estimated walking time.

Iron Jubei doesn't have the need to go shopping currently... mostly because I didn't see anything worthwhile in the adventurer's vault books yet <.<

In reply to Iron Jubei (msg # 87):

Well I'll wait for feedback from the rest of the party, although I will only wait until tomorrow morning.  Then I shall end the current thread and begin the first chapter.

Also to speed things up I would like to post twice per day from now on, in the morning and at night.  Will that be fine with you all?
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:16, Mon 06 Jan 2014.

My character just created a new way of eating bread and cheese and he will call it a Drecheeb. XP

Just to inform you guys I am giving you a small while to have a conversation with each other, sorta get some bonding time in with your Characters.  I thought it would be a good idea to give it 2-3 days (real time not game time) for you guys to chat, after that time I'd like you guys to wrap up your conversation so we can continue with the story.

Well it seems that our characters have to bond. Lets discuss some of our character motivations,like dislikes here.

As those who have read my character background Drex is an orphan.
He finds comfort in his religious observations and rituals.
He comes from Aria.
He likes music, sunrises, helping others, and merriment within limits.
He dislikes ALL WHO GAINS THE ENMITY OF HIS GODS!!!!!, overly pungent foodstuffs, long distance sea travel, seeing children treated cruelty and neglected.
He has a mild temper, but when he loses his cool a deluge of repressed anger and rage (parental issues) rush out and SWALLOW ALL RESPONSIBLE!!!!_{the horror O-O}

*I belief that Phelen and Drex have developed a friendship of sorts.

*He respects Iron Jubei, and trusts his judgments. He sees Jubei as his peer.

*Xeela is new-ish, Drex is intrested to learn more about her.

*Lambent and Drex relationship is like that of a pupil and teacher.

*Aaa now we come to the Enigma that is Enkii, Lambent is one as well but Drex does not know how to relate to this character. He says little to nothing. So conversations between Drex and Enkii seems have a extremely short lifespan.

This is only a suggestion if any of you have a different relationship they wish to have with Drex PLEASE post.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:44, Sat 11 Jan 2014.

I totally support this sort of thing.

Author: Would my weapon be in my hands, or stowed? And would it be loaded or unloaded?

Enkii: Do you have the Warlord feature that increases group initiative?

-

About Phelan:

He's still adjusting to a world after not having seen it in three thousand years as mentioned in his backstory.
He's fascinated by the application of magic and technology by modern standards (when He's not exhausted from lack of sleep)
He claims to be from Aria, for simplicity.
He likes reading, tinkering and learning.
He dislikes crowds, people who mistreat animals and divination (the latter because he has no skill at it).

- He considers Drex as a friend of sorts.

- He's intimidated by Jubei, but trusts him.

- He's currently undecided on Xeela

- He's fascinated by Lambent.

- He sees Enkii as the only bit of familiarity in the group.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:37, Sun 12 Jan 2014.

@Phelan: Considering you had just walked into a dark place I'd say yes you have it in your hands.

Well since we're all sharing...

Some things about Enlightened Wanderer Seeking the Lambent Fires of Creation (yes, that is his full name and he will share it with anyone that asks):

He has no idea who he was and is trying to uncover the memories lost when he was consumed by primordial elemental fire.
He is disciplined and organised though has a tendency to get stuck in habits that have formed over time and can be recalcitrant in stopping such habits.
He bluntly states that he is from the outer planes having lost any known connection to the Ehuron home plane.
He likes mediating, learning about people, contemplating existence and making wise little comments about the situation at hand. :)
He dislikes dishonesty, people who take advantage of others, cruelty in all its forms and sloth.

He finds Drex trustworthy but a little immature.

He is amused by Enkii's silent stature but respects his nature.

He admire's Jubei's willingness to take the lead but finds him a tad brash.

He is interested in Phelan's thoughts and perspective and considers him a kindred spirit.

He has not had enought time to get to know Xeela ... yet ...
This message was last edited by the player at 17:55, Sun 12 Jan 2014.

Yes do we get an initiative bonus from Enkii?

@All: I looked it up and yes Enkii has the Combat Leader Class Feature so you all get the benefit from it, I'll update my initiative track and y'all can just update your own initiative scores to reflect this.  Also I updated the PC thread, simply because I had forgotten before to ask all of you to list your class features.  So please edit your entries to reflect this change.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:43, Mon 13 Jan 2014.

Congrats DM.

You just one-shotted me before I could even act...and if my math is not off then Drex is also going to be on a -1 number.

:P

@Lambent: Actually your Initiative is before that of the Skeletal Archers.  Though I don't think there is anyway for you to reach them, or get out of their range before their turn.  As a side not, I know that all the monster initiatives are listed as "monsters" atm however that is only for the first round, from the second round on their place in the initiative order will be clearly listed.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:08, Mon 13 Jan 2014.

...still dead...

@Lambent: Meh, first to third round is usually the most painful.  Though you should be able to survive.  Hell I got lucky rolls on the archers.  .o.  Surprisingly.  Also, screw it I'll be writing in the names of the monsters in the initiative just so you all know when what happens.  >>
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:28, Mon 13 Jan 2014.

Thank god for psychic resistance. Don't worry, Enkii and I can revive the dying.

What is the bonus from Enkii if I spend an action point? never mind I see that you have already put in your class features. XP
This message was last edited by the player at 07:23, Tue 14 Jan 2014.

Why is all of this so confusing D:

It not, I gust forgot my character's mechanics and needed to remember why I did what I did when I created him.

Im having some trouble with all of this, given that this is the first time i play D&D. Normally i use a different system.

If you have any problems, then just ask.

Thanks, will do :)

Edited my post to reflect the fact that the archers are after me....sorry about that, but it was a bit unclear.

Umm...I think since most of my attacks rely on hitting or not and save time you might want to give us their defenses. I know it's not considered 'right' but in this instance it will speed things up since my Desert Wind Flurry of Blows is always dependent on whether or not I hit...

Why not just add an IF section for the event that you do hit?

In reply to Xeela (msg # 108): XP I thought you meant me.... Hehe.

In reply to Drex (msg # 111):

Well yes, that too xD I find all of this very confusing right now x3

@Lambent: Well let us try Phelan's suggestion, as it is what I originally had in mind with combat in this format.
This message was lightly edited by the GM at 12:12, Tue 14 Jan 2014.

Lambent, remember that I went after you. So if the attack knocked you out, you won't  have had a turn  this round due to being unconscious.

In reply to Xeela (msg # 112):

Just remember to read your class features, that will help you a lot e.g.:

First Strike
At the start of an encounter, you have combat advantage against any creatures that have not yet acted in that encounter.

+

Sneak Attack
Once per round, when you have combat advantage against an enemy and are using a weapon from the light blade, the crossbow, or the sling weapon group, an attack you make against that enemy deals extra damage if the attack hits. You decide whether to apply the extra damage after making the damage roll. As you advance in level, your extra damage increases.
1st–10th +2d6

And making use of your attack power will also give you nifty benefits and tricks.

THe archers that downed me went AFTER me...as the DM reminded me..

Erm...this is stil going to be very confusing

In reply to Lambent (msg # 116):

Luckily Drex is last so that makes it easier for me. But yes... hopefully we can adapt or our characters will suffer the consequences.

Ah, sorry. My bad.

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 118):

but you do still heal him on your turn.

Of course. The alternative is leaving him on the ground and being the worst healer ever as a result.

Just btw, guys please note what defense your attack targets.

Whoops. Duly noted.

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 122):

Whats the time that side of the world? Aren't you suppose to be sleeping already?

Oh and Author I'm updating my post now to reflect the standard action I gained by not converting it into a minor action to do my perception check.

In reply to Drex (msg # 123):

Um... Uh... I was busy! Working! Yes, that is my reason for pulling an all-nighter.

@Phelan:  XD  Really?

In reply to Author (msg # 125):

For once, no. I was reading. :P I'm going to go now though before I start paying f or it later.

Hehe, I'm also going soon.

Oh Author you will see I canceled the action point spend and used the standard action I regained for the perception check for my  Abjure Undead attack.

No more editing for me I finished.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:01, Tue 14 Jan 2014.

In reply to Drex (msg # 115):

Oooh, yeah, ill get to that later i guess :/ For now i wanna get familiar and secure with the basic fighting before i confuse myself. Normally i ma playing a german syste, now i am learning shadowrun AND have to keep this stuff in mind, so ill go slow x3

In reply to Xeela (msg # 128):

Yes that is a lot to learn, what ed. of Shadowrun are you learning?

@Xeela: And which part are you having to focus on in Shadowrun? Learning Meat, Magic and Matrix are a pain.

Hey guys, the post should be up in a few hours, sorry it took so long.

In reply to Author (msg # 131):

No problem :P

Well its up now, I'll aim to update it at this hour every day because I am alot fresher in the mornings.  And so that I can still get work done at night, kinda not been doing working the two days because of having hours on writing stuff up for this.  After this battle I may have to revise how I run these things.

Perhapse the more traditional format would be a good idea.  >>

Did you remember the Opportunity Attack the wraith would have had on me for me using a ranged attack in melee?

EDIT: Unless you pre-empted the fact I would have shifted away sensibly if I had an action, which you appear to have done. Never mind.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:20, Wed 15 Jan 2014.

@Phelan what is your HP at now?

4. 9 if I go ahead with Second Wind (which I probably will since otherwise I'll just use Total Defence anyway).

I what your opinions please.

I thought of moving to H9, then charging Skeletal Archer I [I'll be in position C4], use my action point and attack Skeletal Archer I or II depending if I mist.

Or

Should I stay put and attack the Gravehounds?

In reply to Drex (msg # 137):

Action Pointing to let Lambent use Second Wind.

If possible, I recommend taking down the Wraiths as soon as possible. The defence penalties are pretty nasty, and Lambent is pretty much dancing on the edge there. Also with either the wraith or the gravehound around, I pretty much can't attack unless I want to get hurt (all my current powers are Ranged). If we can get rid of the autodamage, that'll help Lambent and everyone will welcome having normal defences again.

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 138):

Will do

@Author: to my knowledge NWII is not Flanked by Jubei and Enkii. They need to be precisely opposite the creature to flank it. But if it is pleas explain.

Actually take a look at page 285 of the PHB, and you might need to update your view of the battle map, Refresh/F5 that page to see the ROUND 2 battlemap (there is a bit header ROUND 2 at the top left-hand side).  They do flank it according to the rules for large creatures flanking.

In reply to Author (msg # 141):

Oh I see now XP, needed to refresh...

Also I am strongly getting the impression that most of you are confused about what happens to each of you.  And this is getting so bad that I am strongly considering changing how this battle runs from Round 3 onwards.

Here is what the Other more standard tabletop method would involve.  Player's and Enemies respond and make posts at their place in the initiative order.  Because that would be a whole heck lot less confusing I think then the current simultaneity of things.

So from round 3 (if you guys agree to this, i.e. vote), Things will look like this;
Round begins

1st Xeela post's

2nd Decrepit Skeletons post's
3rd Nightmare Wraiths post's

4th Jubei post's

5th Gravehounds post's

6th Lambent post's

7th Skeletal Archers post's

8th Phelan post's
9th Enkii post's
10th Drex post's

Round ends

I'm in favour of it. I think the only problem is timing more than anything else due to timezones and the like (as Drex kindly reminded me when he noted I was up at 6am.) If you, and everyone else, is fine with rounds taking somewhat longer as a result (really probably only two days as opposed to the one, possibly three), then it should be fine.

Well I understand what is going on now...but tbh I'm just thinking of lying there and waiting til all this is over. Wasting an action to get me up just to have me fall again is a bit silly since my surge value is so tiny...even if I spend a surge now it's only going to put me on like 3 or something and then I'll probably fall again.

So get the mobs down first and then worry about me. The defender needs more healing than my little striker atm..


Oh and remembered my Death Saving throw at end of turn...just added it...

Nononono. Remember that if you are healed when on negative, you are healed as if you had 0 hit points. So when I healed you  before, you would have been on 9. And you would  be on 6 now, which is enough to survive the aura if it hits again.

Also we need plenty of damage at the moment. If you fall unconscious again I swear I'll ransack your body and force-feed you a healing potion. It's not like I'm going to be attacking for a little while.

Also Jubei is capable of hitting himself with Lay on Hands if needed.

Pff...still...it seems like a waste of an action considering my luck at the moment

@Phelan: So you would prefer a more standard way of handling the combat from round 3 on?

Thing is, my goal is to prevent you dying outright. Which is certainly possible with the auras floating around. Really though, I'm just buying time.  As mentioned before, I'm unable to safely buff people with Magic Weapon, or even use my Encounter or Daily. Yes I could have perhaps used the AP later, but I figured buying time now would be the best option.

@Author: Yes, as long as you're alright with it likely taking longer.

@Author: Its fine with me too. Especially considering that it feels as if I just did another assignment of 15 typed pages!
This message was last edited by the player at 12:51, Wed 15 Jan 2014.

I'm planning on using an action point to use my encounter power on the Nightmare Wraith II, which will apply a Divine Sanction on both Gravehounds and the Nightmare Wraith. That will cause them to take 6 radiant damage if they don't include Jubei in their attacks.
Also might kill NWII in the process if I get lucky with the damage.

That being said, will also use the second wind to get up to 18HP again.

That still leaves me with 2 minor actions (since I won't move), one of which will probably be a divine challenge, could also use Lay on Hands on Lambent which I believe would restore 11 HP to him (assuming it uses Jubei's surge value rather than Lambent's)

He'd use his, rather than yours unfortunately. "... the creature regains hit points as if it had spent a healing surge." Still, 6 health is 6 health. Which means he'll be awake on his turn. Which means I won't need to spend the action point yet and means he can use his Second Wind on his turn if he desires, or save it for later.

Or take a potshot at the wraith to get rid of it assuming Jubei doesn't murder it.
Which seeing how it currently goes could be quite likely xD
What's Lambent's call on this?

Hopefully it doesn't kill me first. :P Going to write up a small algorithm of a post.

Hmm can apply Divine Challenge on that gravehound to at least make it hit less good. -2 on attack rolls and all that.

Oh I'm standing adjacent NWII; as it partially does psychic damage, I'm not as bothered by it as I might be by the gravehound.

Going to challenge that damn thing then and hope it misses with it's attacks... something they seem to be prone of doing so far.

@Phelan & @Jubei well I hope Jubei kills the wraith too. If not hopefully if has a sucky Rex save then I get a radiant attack in too.

But I think both At-will's will miss T_T

@Drex: Remember you'll get the attack and damage bonuses from me if I hit.  Enkii will too. So do a couple others, but they go before me this round so it won't matter until next round.

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 159):

Alas Drex will not be next to you with any of his attacks.

Doesn't need to be when making his attacks. He only needs to be when -I- make the attack. It's a spot buff, not an aura-based effect.

So as it stands I currently have a move or action still pending since I'm not sure if Lambent actually wants to stand right now, as in, having any plans what to do when he can take a turn of actions and such. So I'll leave that in limbo until he gives a go for it :I

Hehe...that's what I WANTED to do this time...around but got knocked right back down again :(

Then let's Lay on them Hands!

@Jubei: If we get through this, would you mind being my Surge donor? Artificer healing is... Different to regular stuff. We have to prepare the 'uses' in advance by paying a surge per infusion (not including the two we start the day with). Seeing as you have an impressive excess of healing  surges...

Think I'm done editing my post. I've appended a targeting priority for my attack. Please note that as I have low-light vision, I will not suffer penalties for dim light, and the skeletons are well within range.

Question: What kind of action is it to recall any kind of monster knowledge? Just for future reference.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:54, Wed 15 Jan 2014.

Sure thing, I got surges aplenty obviously and if it helps us staying alive then I'm glad to give em out :D
Also I think knowledge checks are a free action... at least I wasn't penalized for doing one at the start of battle <.< (got nothing useful though)

In reply to Iron Jubei (msg # 166):

I'll append an attempt then. I seem to have gotten a lucky roll.

@Lambent And you be revived! or something that stops you from laying there D:
This message was last edited by the player at 16:33, Wed 15 Jan 2014.

@Phelan: Where did you find that bit about healing goes from 0 HP btw?

In reply to Author (msg # 169):

It's the Internet. Don't you know that everything is correct if it's on the intarwebs? :P

Anyway. It's on page 295 of the PHB. Also 165 of the  Essentials Dungeon Master's Book. Look under 'Healing the Dying' (which can also be seen in the table of contents and index).

Feeling pretty damn useless and a drain on resources here, tho :(

I hear ya, I don't have a clue as to how to contribute and I'm down to about 2 HP from what I can tell. :(

Some Warlord I am.

In reply to Enkii (msg # 172):

@Enkii: Don't worry ask Lambent and the Author, I also play a Worlord IRL and most of the time my party has to heal themselfs. Hehe.

Just use inspiring word on yourself and drink your potion and only cost you 2 minor actions.
What is your other At will and your encounter power?

@Enkii: Remember that Inspiring Word is sort of your go-to healing power. It can be used twice per encounter.

Thanks for being patient with me, I appreciate it...blegh, you can tell I'm new to this. XD

That's a good idea, but I need to make sure I roll first to see if I can save from that bloody scream, as for whatever other abilities:

Commander's Strike is my other At Will

( Target: one creature

Attack: an ally of the user's choice makes a melee basic attack against the target

Hit: "Ally's basic attack damage + your Intelligence modifier."[PHB:145]

Effect: "One of your allies can take a free action to make a melee basic attack against the target. The ally gains a bonus to the damage roll equal to your Intelligence modifier." )

And my Encounter is Vengeance Is Mine:

( encounter power     immediate reaction     Keywords: martial    Range: personal     Trigger: an enemy hits you    Effect: "You make a basic attack against the triggering enemy, and one ally within 5 squares of you can move his or her speed and make a melee basic attack against the triggering enemy as a free action."

If there are concerns about accuracy with your own attacks, you could use Commander's Strike on either  NWII or GHI (both of which have a melee attacker adjacent to them). You yourself don't need to make an attack roll, you're essentially giving an ally a more damaging free attack against the enemy.

Remember to keep Vengeance is Mine in mind for when you get hit in melee, it means you can hit them back and get one of our melee fighters to also hit them. As a Reaction, it doesn't even cost you a turn.

@Enkii: Cool those are mine too.

Yip that is right what Phelan said. And if you don't make your saving through one of us will come to you and fores feed you your potion. XP

I'll keep my and Drex's fingers crossed (hoofs in Drex case) that the whole parties roles start to look better. Then we can make compost out of the undead. ;D
This message was last edited by the player at 19:11, Wed 15 Jan 2014.

Not to sound particularly hopeless, but I'm down for the count this turn. :( Sorry guys. ._.

I see great synergy between Enkii's Commanding Strike and Jubei's Virtuous Strike as the latter counts/can be used as a basic attack, which CS does give.

Right. Next round I'll be reviving Enkii since he still has two full uses of his healing ability left. Let's hope we can get these wraiths down quickly so we can fight properly.

Assuming I'm not the next to fall.

@Author: Would it be a minor action to retrieve Enkii's healing potion and another to force-feed it to him?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:14, Wed 15 Jan 2014.

I swear the RNG is out for us. It wants to see us dead.

No Phelan...

Retrieving another character's potion from their pack is at the very least a move action...

And yes...it seems the dice roller wants me dead.

I think we need to start going all out. We may have to start using dailies.

This is our very first battle of this day (if all that half-night-time counts as day) and we are ready to blow dailies... daymn we're not having luck here xD

@Phelan: It is a move action to retrieve stowed gear.

And yes the RNG seems to be out for blood for some reason.  :I

@Xeela: Just for future reference, loading a superior crossbow requires a minor action unless you have the Speed Loader feat.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:10, Thu 16 Jan 2014.

@Author: No reading Players only> We want a fighting chance and can't have you subconsciously using this info against us.... {Just in case}

@Jubei: With a feat I'll be able to make use of Overwhelming Strike also as a Basic Melee attack.

Well, if we can get Lambent and Enkii back up and acting then I think we will be fine. But if we don't sort out the rang we all will be dead in the next three rounds.

Xeela should keep attacking the skeletons, I'll see if I can get to Nightmare Wraith I. Remember Xeela 5foot step first before making your range attacks when you are next to the Wraith.
Jubie will you be able to handle the Gravehouns and if the other Nightmare Wraith if it is still alive?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:34, Thu 16 Jan 2014.

If I can handle them depends on how much HP they have and how good they are at biting me, as it stands they seem to be pretty shoddy at the latter. But since I blew my encounter power and second wind already, I'll have to rely on at-wills to kill em.
I could also use my daily power next turn on the Nightmare Wraith I for a guaranteed daze effect on it, which should keep it from doing those pesky area attacks for a turn.

In reply to Iron Jubei (msg # 188):

Okay, I guess it all depends on their actions.

Might be able to change our tactics depending on the results of my knowledge check as well.

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 190):

That's true..

@Xeela: Just remember your attack bonus is 10 without any subtractions not just 5 for your ability scorer, so add 10 - (all negatives) to your d20 roll. That should make a huge different next round. seeing that you only have to roll higher than 7 to make a hit (not including the subtractions).
This message was last edited by the player at 07:17, Thu 16 Jan 2014.

In reply to Drex (msg # 191):

Walk 5 before the attack, got that. But why is the attack roll bonus 10? Where are the other 5 coming from?

Well first you have the +5 from Dexterity to start.

When you make a weapon attack (powers with the keyword 'Weapon' count as weapon attacks), you add your weapon proficiency bonus (Superior Crossbows add a +3)

As a Rogue (which I'm fairly sure you are), you add +1 for your Sharpshooter Talent feature (which I'm assuming you took as opposed to Scoundrel Weapon Talent).

Oop. Almost forgot. As part of your race, you took the Ferocious Eugenics option. This grants an extra +1 to your attack roll, and +1 to damage.

Totalled up, that would indeed be +10 before penalties for the attack roll. And your damage roll would be <blah>+6 (5 from Dexterity, 1 from Eugenics). In the case of unbalancing shot: 2d10+6, and in regards to your basic ranged attack: 1d10+6. Remember to reload your crossbow as a minor action and you need to do so each round if you want to shoot it. Unlike in Shadowrun, it's not a test or anything.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:21, Thu 16 Jan 2014.

@Drex: Please clear up your movement action because it makes no sense from what I am reading. "(From N14 to Q14 next to Q16 [move action])"

In reply to Author (msg # 194):

Nothing wrong with my movement. I did it this way so that the  Nightmare Wraith can't get an opportunity attack. I could have said  N14 to Q16 then you would have made an opportunity attack with that vile THING...
This message was last edited by the player at 10:26, Thu 16 Jan 2014.

I think I understand the confusion. Your method of saying it was a bit confusing.

@Author: That's his specified move path. Rather than a direct path, he's using Q14 as a waypoint. So he first goes from N14 to Q14, then goes from Q14 to Q16.

@Phelan: Thanks for clearing that up.  That is what I wanted to know.

But that is what I said... and thought that putting it in one movement bracket would clear it. but I guess not. Thanx Phelan :)

@Drex: Sometimes its better to be verbose rather then short.

Insubstantial as hinted before: Check
Vulnerability to radiant like typical undead: Check.

Good to know I was thinking correctly on both counts. Drex, Jubei: If either of you has a feasible go-to for radiant damage, go ahead.

By the way Xeela, as a reminder of Opportunity attack rules: If a creature leaves a square within melee reach of an opponent, or  makes a RANGED or AREA attack within melee reach of an opponent, they trigger an Opportunity Attack (which is a Melee Basic Attack). Which is why you have been advised to take that 5 yard step  (also known as a Shift) to safely exit range of that Wraith before making your attack.

@ Author: Will do next time XD. And don't forget your Shadowrunne character for tonights game if there is one.

[Sorry guys for using this tread for Personal massages, my foon is on charge]

In reply to Drex (msg # 201):

Oh,  you guys play shadowrun? What edition/archtypes?

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 202):

We play 4ed.

I think we might have a chance this time around. Both hounds are bloodied Hoop-Hoop.

Has the Author posted the new round's map. I'm asking because I still see the old one.

No not yet, at least I don't see it here either.
But yay, we bloodied both hounds with rather little effort! Things are looking up... a bit at least.

Game map has been updated.  :3

Gah, sorry for the late reply peeps :/

@Phelan
And thank you, thats good to know. I will try to keep those in mind, thanks for the hint.

Xeela, how'd you hit 18 damage? According to what I can tell, your maximum damage should only be 16.

I roll a D10, then i can add the +3 from the crossbow and the +5  Dexterity modifier. Though its 17 not 18 i math-derped.

Ahhh, no, no. The proficiency bonus (the +3) is only to attack rolls, not damage rolls.

EDIT: Also remember your Eugenics racial feature adds +1 to damage as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:33, Thu 16 Jan 2014.

Oh, okay. Then i have to substract two from my damage now. Sorry!

Heh, it's alright. Everyone makes mistakes. I used to think that <Attribute> vs AC meant it was just your score vs their AC (or whatever defence was  listed). It was hilarious for a while.

Well, that would be a problem in some situations :/

My problem is that i am buisy most of the day, so i have read the basic rules and poked some people abot some stuff, but most of this is just trial and error. Not like i had never had any RP games before, just different systems. Give me some time and all will be fine :3

For my turn I'm going to hit the nightmare wraith YET AGAIN, however I need to pick a different target for the Divine Challenge as Nightmare Wraith I has moved out of my range for that, so I will probably stick it to the gravehound II instead?

... I'm feeling a little surrounded at the moment.

Working on that... those Wraith are just annoyingly tough to take down :I

@Phelan: Do not forget about your Nimble Reversal Racial Encounter Power.

Nimble Reversal Racial Encounter Power
In a flurry of fur you slip around your foe and make ready to strike from behind.

Free Action, Personal, Self
Trigger: A medium or large size opponent attacks you with a melee attack.
Effect:  You evade the attack made against you and shift up to three squares in the direction from which you were attacked.
Scalling: At 11th level you may uses this power twice per encounter, at 21st level you may use this power three times per encounter.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:21, Fri 17 Jan 2014.

In reply to Author (msg # 217):

Oh I haven't, heheheh. I've been waiting for precisely this moment. *maniacal laughter*

@Phelan: Just for the Gravehound to attack you.  X3

@Author: For anything really. So far the only melee attack was the wraith, which was both less threatening and missed anyway. Still, could have taken it then to get out of the  middle that way. Ah well. Guess I'll just be using my Infusion to get Enkii back up.

Well lo and behold I'm upright again...for how long remains to be seen. I can just feel one of those skeletons getting a critical hit on me in the next round.

For what it's worth, I'm reasonably certain the decrepit skeletons are minions. Just a feeling. >>

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 222):

I also think so. >>

Oh come on... 11 isn't going hit anything except someone min-maxed who dumped both STR and CON. And even then it probably would still fail.

I need to turn my crossbow into an implement (feat for level 2). And make it magical (maybe I should consider Goblin Totem...). And get an expertise feat (feat for level 4).

@Phelan: We just need more gold for magic weapons, that should make a major different.

Yay, just Enkii than me... :3
This message was last edited by the player at 11:09, Fri 17 Jan 2014.

@Drex: At least I can do the enchanting. I hate to imagine how hard finding someone who  sells them would be.

I think we can spend a favour or fortune token to be "lucky" and find someone who sells the magical weapons we want. Which I'd say would be a pretty good thing to do indeed.

@Jubei: True. However it would be more financially efficient to simply find someone who will cover the component costs (which are much more regular) and then I do it. Otherwise we have to spend  the token to find the person with it in addition to costs for the actual  weapon. The downside is that I'm restricted to only enchanting up to my level, but that more or less works out. Essentially it's a case of possibly spending an extra token for expedience.

If they are minions then where the heck is our controller? Do we even have a controller? Cause if we don't I think we need one...

I uh... I think the closest thing we have to a controller is you, Lambent.

Well...hardly...and to be honest...if they ARE minions...I would have gotten them down in round one..if...you know...arrows...and stuff.

Well given that every single one of their attacks has done 5 damage, I think it's safe to say that they are. I apologise for metagaming, but it needs to be said. :P

Thank you Phelan, so much. XD And sorry I took so long to respond. ;w;

Okay so I'm restored by 3 HP, right? Or since I'm -7, do I simply transfer to -4 and make another Death Save?

If the former, then am I afforded all of my capable actions for the turn?

Sorry for the question burst, I was only able to actually check up now. >.<

@Enkii: Remember to ad your healing surge value too. So its 3+healing surge value.

@Enkii: Your healing surge value is noted on your character sheet.  Your healing surge value is 1/4 of your total hit points rounded down.  Thus it is 6 for you at this level.  So whenever someone says Regain X + your healing surge value, its always that 1/4 of your total HP.

Also Phelan is totally right.  When you heal you automatically go back up to 0 then add the HP you got from the healing.  So you will always regain a positive number of HP from healing.

@Enkii: Clarification:

When you are healed while dying, you are healed as if your current HP is zero. For example: in this case your healing surge value is 6 (25 max health, 12 bloodied, 6 surge value), and Curative Admixture heals for your surge value + 3, thus it will heal you for 9.

So you will be healed to 9HP and will now be conscious. However you will also be prone due to the fact that one is not usually standing upright when dying. :P

X3  As Phelan said.

Is it possible to spend a turn in some manner of defense? Of course I'm going to gobble down my potion as a minor action, but in terms of actually doing anything, the most I can think of is shifting towards R14 and trying to get another Intuitive Strike on the first Nightmare Wraith, seeing as how the other one's dead...but I'm a tad reluctant. XD;;

Also the matter of using my Potion, would it be wise to waste it now seeing as I exhausted my Second Wind?

(EDIT) On second thought, would I incur the Wraith if I poked the Dog?
This message was last edited by the player at 00:29, Sun 19 Jan 2014.

Total Defence is available as a Standard action. It gives you +2 to all defences until the start of your next turn.

In regards to 'poking the dog'... I assume a trident is a reach weapon?

Again: Opportunity attacks are only triggered if you leave a square within range of an enemy OR if you make a RANGED or AREA attack. Assuming you don't need to move adjacent to the gravehound  to attack it, then you would  be able to use Intuitive Strike on it.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:34, Sun 19 Jan 2014.

...I just got an idea~!

But I'm trying to recall, did I spend my Action Point yet? I'm thinking of using Inspiring Word on Xeela and not moving, but would that count as my Standard Action? If such is the case, I'm going to forgo using my Movement.

If such is the case and it doesn't count as my Standard Action, then I could provide Xeela a buff up and Strike the Hound! Then again, Inspiring Word is a Class Feature...
This message was last edited by the player at 00:42, Sun 19 Jan 2014.

If you look at the Inspiring Word power, you will note that it is a minor action. Thus you can trade down your Move action to use it.

EXCELLENT!!

I think I'm finally starting to get the hang of this...for as many times as I said it. :P Sorry to leave you all hanging like that. I don't have the excuse. :S

Remember you will be starting your turn prone, and it takes a move action to stand up.  While prone you are capable of attacking, healing, drinking etc... But there are some other effects:

Creatures attacking you in  melee gain combat advantage against you (basically a +2 to their attack, plus any bonuses they may have for having Combat Avantage).
You gain +2 to all defences against RANGED attacks.
You take a -2 penalty to all attack rolls.

Ooooh wait...so then should I have not taken that second minor action...oh boy. ._. I don't think I can go back on it now, can I?
This message was last edited by the player at 01:34, Sun 19 Jan 2014.

In reply to Enkii (msg # 244):

I think you'll be allowed to this time.

Also to note: Intuitive Strike specifies 1[W] damage. In this case it's just 1d8, no attribute bonus.

For reference:
Melee basic attack - At will
Melee Weapon
Str vs AC
1[W] + Str mod damage.

That's your melee basic attack written as if it were a power. When you use other powers, you substitute things. For example, my Magic Weapon power subtitutes Intelligence + 1 for strength in the attack roll, and my  Int mod for bonus damage.

There are a couple of powers, however, that will NOT  add an ability modifier to your damage. In this case you simply roll the weapon dice (like 1d8 for the trident). If you have other sources of bonus damage (enchanted weapon, certain feats or class features) then you can add that to the damage. But you won't add any bonus damage from an attribute unless specifically told to.

Okay....phew. x3 Will keep in mind!

Thanks, Phelan

Just a question out of curiosity. If Drex goes and shifts an enemy next to Jubei, does he get an attack of opportunity against the shifted enemy, as that is a movement?

Forced movement does not trigger attacks of opportunity. Forgot that exception.

Hmmm... okay yeah, makes sense. Else that would lead to hilarious combos

Mostly from -Bards- of all things. Also Enchantment Mages.

oO  Bards of all things?

Wardens would be great enablers for something like that. Give em a controlling spear and people will be shifting all over the fuckin place. So yeah, good that this dynamic is prevented xD

Yes Bards are actually big on forced movement as well. Though it's more 'moving allies out of danger or into attack mode' rather than 'force enemies to get hurt'. The leader role has multiple sections. Bards are rather chessmaster-y, particularly the Cunning kind.

There's a nice feat that takes advantage of this in Paragon. Agile Opportunist.

Am I the only one who prefered the other way of posting/taking turns? :I

I think I somewhat preferred it as well, but I can see where a lot of confusion was coming from. Might have been best to have us start our posts with stating where we are in turn order. The major downside to this is we can be delayed for a while by someone who might not have free time.

Yeah... that's sorta the biggest gripe I have with it right now, turns taking like 3 days to complete. That's a bit much, considering how many battles we'll have in the future.

Yeah, i liked the old one better too.. at least that they weren't sorted. It might happen that someone has no time at one day, so i think we should just wait until all posted their turns, though not in order. So everyone can reply when he manages to. Maybe a

#1

or something over the post of the person to indicate the position in turn. That way we get all posts, and still can progress some faster.

Uru could just write the initiative order at the start of each turn again, so we can see who acts when. It also facilitated better group play imho as we could see who was doing what "before it commits".
This message was last edited by the player at 17:38, Mon 20 Jan 2014.

Posted a bit ahead of the DM.

Yes...I know the skeletons are next but thought I would save some time.

BTW...are we supposed to post the WHOLE power? It seems like it takes a lot of space to post rather unnecessary information. I would be happy to do so if that is the consensus, but I see some are doing it and some aren't, so I'm just checking.

Hmmm I figured it might be nice to show what the thing does, so the GM doesn't have to look up any specific side conditions it might have. But yeah, don't have to post it (all the time) I suppose

My sentiment lies with Jubei, generally I trust you all enough to not be fudging to me about your powers.  However it might be a good idea for those new to the game to post them more fully so as to become familiar with them and just in case they miss something we all can pick it up.

Indeed. Also again it just gives you a reference for effects of powers beyond damage.

Also author, my position on the map seems to be incorrect. I've tried refreshing with no success. I should be at R12.

Oh! Thanks for noticing that.  I had totally not seen that short sentence you mentioned that move.  Excuse me as I edit not only the map but also my last post...

Heheh, that's fine. We all slip.

Jip.  Though Xeela might not like you for it.  :P

I posted early...see above for my attack---stays the same

I regret nothing!

Archers with shields? Oh bugger...well here's hoping the next hit actually kills them.

:I  Magic!

I want my shield magically glued to my arm as well while I swing around some giant two handed axe to murder things with. :I

Don't laugh but that is probably possible.  I always wondered that if you could have a Dancing Weapon, why not have a Dancing Shield?

In Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup that is actually possible, if you follow the paladin/cleric god The Shining One, he will actually protect you with a "sentient" shield that blocks attacks for you while you go apeshit on undead with your super blessed two handed sword.

So it's been done before <.<

Clerics with Battle Cleric's Lore also gain a shield bonus. I'm not entirely sure what they get it from though.

I just realized that I can intimidate the Wraiths. Assuming we get it bloodied in a timely manner. SURRENDER SWINE!

Also yes, Jubei speaks a language they understand. Everything understands Carnal e.e
EVERYTHING!

That'll be rather hard though. Standard action. Intimidate vs Will + 10 (as they are hostile).

Jubei has 10 ranks in the Intimidation skill, I think I can risk that. Just need to get above 10 or so... probably... maybe.

It's a wraith, I think they probably will have good Will. >>

The wraith might have resisters to fear and that should make it even harder to Intimidate. Well that is how one of the rouge key words work. Not sure if it is the same for other classes.




I'm posting... e_e

The dice hates me and I hate it. (\/);,,,;(\/)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:37, Wed 22 Jan 2014.

He's  not talking about Rattling though. As a standard action, anyone can make an Intimidate check to force a bloodied creature to take an action such as surrender. It's basically Intimidate vs Will, with the creature getting a +5 bonus for being unfriendly, and +10 for  being hostile.

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 279):

Okay I see, so the intimidate check has nothing to do with a fear effect.

Folks I am going to end the round because Enkii has been taking far to long to post, I have been patient enough as it is but this is bogging the game down.  I am told most of you guys are bored of this encounter already so I honestly we need to get the ball rolling.

Its also been brought to my attention that I am handeling encounters in the wrong way for a Play-By-Post game.  So I am going to try and figure out how to run encounters better and more time efficiently in this format.
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:59, Wed 22 Jan 2014.

I think  that if we used a modified version of the previous one with the added notations  it might work. But that does run into metagaming issues. Why not ask a couple of the other GMs on the site for advice?

I agree, the previous system was more time efficient but also allowed for a lot of metagaming.
I also agree that you should try and ask how other GMs on here handle it, because I frankly doubt that anyone of us here really knows a better alternative. :I

Aldready made a post about it on the public forums.

Okay so here are some thoughts based on the Rmail's I've recieved.  Once a new round has been announced all the players make their posts.  Then at the end I make a summary post that lists what the monsters did in response to your actions.

So its kinda like how we did things at first but with the monsters going last rather then first.  Then there is the 48 hour rule, that you must reply to the round summary within 48 hours or your character defaults to a total defense action for that round.

What do you all think?

I plan to run round 5 as such to see how it goes.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:57, Wed 22 Jan 2014.

Well what ever system you decide to make use of in your game will have flaws and we will just have to get us to them.

Thus you can make use of this formula:
X = Time taken to act in real time
Y = Accuracy
Z = confusion suffered by player

 X ∝ Z(Y)

So, the more accurate you want to be with how things happen in battle the longer it will take in real time. And the more unsure the player is the longer the round will take; Z is actuality more a uncertainty variable I added.

Thought it would be fun to put if in a formula. ;P
This message was last edited by the player at 09:32, Wed 22 Jan 2014.

I just realized that I totally fucked up with using the healing surge thingy that Enkii gave to Jubei. Damnit.

Can I still use it, even one round after it has been offered?
This message was last edited by the player at 15:37, Wed 22 Jan 2014.

I think it can still count if you choose to take it, right? There should still be time to change your post?

If not, can I use it again? :O I think I only used a surge earlier, and it can be used twice, and if such is the case, I'll spend to heal Jubei. X)

I assume you would have used it then. You expend the surge and regain bonus HP as part of the power. Perhaps Author will let you retcon it to have used it since there is no reason you would not have used it.

@Enkii: As this is your first battle I'll allow it.

On another note I've done some digging and have come up with solutions to the combat troubles we have been having initiative wise.  I'll be updating the house rules within the next 24 hours to reflect these changes though they will only apply after this encounter.

To speed up the rest of the encounter, as I will after this 5th round be pushing up the countdown clock per round to 24 hours. And I know there are some of your that simply don't seem to always get time in a day to post.  I would like you all to consider default actions that you take if you fail to make a post with the round time limit.

In support of that I am working on making a Google Docs Spreadsheet on which alot of what is currently scattered information can be correlated into a single unified document.  With easy to switch between tabs.

Enkii and Phelan, just PM me your gmail addresses so I can add you as collaborators on the googledoc.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:27, Wed 22 Jan 2014.

Euhm.. okay, i read i am poisoned and hit, so ill probably go down next round. Given that i wont be home before thursdaz night i wont have the chance to check back on the rulebooks and whatsover, so i wont be able to post. Excuses for that, ill wrap the things up once i am home and having a calm minute! Sorry!

Oh right Lambent. Before I forget. Query: Where does it say you can shift two squares before or after Five Storms? You can shift two squares as part of the Move Action from the  Five Storms Full Discipline, but the attack power is just a close burst attack vs  Reflex.

@Xeela: In that case why not ask Jubei or Drex to run you character for the round?
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:52, Wed 22 Jan 2014.

e_e I have nothing to say, two 1's really... and max damage really... e_e *bash my head in on the nearest wall.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:29, Wed 22 Jan 2014.

If it helps, imagine that the dice are licking you each time that happens.  :3

That's creepy Chuthulu dice eehw. *Gets the chills :S

At least the dice deemed me worthy enough to allow me, their humble servant, to save against the poison damage.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:40, Wed 22 Jan 2014.

@Drex:  Would you mind controlling Xeela's character for the 5th round? His player won't be back until Thursday and Jubei believes you would be better at it then he would.

In reply to Author (msg # 298):

Okay

@Author: when would Legacy of Rebellion take effect if Xeela uses it? Before the ongoing damage or after she took it?

I see she has 5 poison resist but I would still like the question answered for future reference.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:30, Thu 23 Jan 2014.

That is a good question, and the answer to it would be yes.  The intent of the power is to stop effects at the very beginning of your turn.

Ok Thanx

Well if you folks don't mind I am going to end the round today then. And begin the next one.

Craaaaaaaap I forgot to total the extra damage for Phelan's buff Xwx

You still have the time to factor it in.

@All of You: I'd like to know what you have in mind for your character development and gear and such.  Because of this I am in the process of making a Character Development Thread.  Where you guys can mention the stuff from before but all say "I really want a +1 Stick of Lallygagging for Xmas" and such.

@Phelan: A planeshaper?  I'm not familiar with that Epic Destiny, from Googling it, it seems to be in one of the Dragon magazines.  Care to link me to the copy you have?  So I can see if its appropriate for the setting?  Frankly the powers that they talk about on the forums don't bother me, because everything at Epic level is just a little bit crazy.  I just have a cosmology that is something a twist off the right from normal.

Getting on that.

Also, won't  be available much this weekend. Taking part in a game development competition.

@Author: I don't feel it is necessary to ask us what monsters we wish to fight. It has to do with you campaign not with our choices(out of game).

Just covering all my bases.  And I didn't ask you what monsters you want to face.  X3
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:53, Fri 24 Jan 2014.

Ech...well that is annoying...stupid skeletons moving all over the place. Right well it seems I won't spend my action point now since hitting just one of them for an action point would be  waste. I'll wait and see what the map looks like for the next round.

As for character development, we already spoke about what is happening after this combat, o DM. Are you still okay with that change happening?

@Lambent:  If you are certain you want to.  And yes we did talk about it.  I also just generally opened up the discussion for all of you.  And made it easier to reference for the future. :3

@Drex: Would you mind controllin Xeela again for this, the sixth round?  As her player isn't back yet from moving IRL.

I am sad to report that Xeela's player will be leaving us.  He says he simply doesn't have enough spare time to play this game.  :I  So yes.  We now have an open seat and I'll be writing out Xeela soon.  So for now, Drex, would you mind controlling Xeela for the rest of this encounter?

BTW guys! Just a heads up. After some consideration about the party's composition, I have decided to change Lambent to an Invoker. It seems we needs a true controller more than the half controller a monk is.

His character, history and personality stay the same so don't be alarmed. His purpose is now just a little more driven than it was before - as a messenger of the Primordials.

<play ominous music here>

Now...if my attack hits the skeleton that still has a shield, I believe my flurry should then take him down...here's hoping.

Oh and DM...please check my note at the end of my post. I will only take the movement if all 3 skeletons are felled by my attack.

Hehehehehehe...apparently we have mature and/or adult content...

I wasn't aware...

In the words of George Takei: 'Oh myyyyyy'

I don't think our group is ready for mature game content. ;3 Hehe
And how will I make coffee when I go to far, as I usually do IRL?


@All: Guys, if I'm correct the second part of hit entry for Overwhelming Strike will only activate if the target is still alive, or does it activate regardless if the target is dead or alive. What is your verdict?


This message was last edited by the player at 06:23, Mon 27 Jan 2014.

I believe it occurs regardless as to whether or not the target dies.

I believe I have managed to acquire a replacement for Xeela's player.  I'll intergrate the fella within a day or two.

Who? Do I know him or is he from Rpol?

He's from Rpol.

-.-

I just realised that the grey tiles are dead...when did I miss this? I wasted an entire round last round attacking dead things...

le sigh

BTW...is there any penalty for attacking those skeletons in the darkness/shadow/whatever?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:07, Mon 27 Jan 2014.

@Lambent: I think the Author said it was a -2 penalty if you don't have low light vision.

I think that might be me!

Hi everyone, pleased to meet you all.

I have read the ic threads and have to say that you are all very good writers.  It makes me worried that I might be a poor substitute for Xeela, but I will try my best!

¦:-]

Yeah I only read the events of the sixth round this morning.  An when I got to your turn I was severly confused, and had been trying to discover if you had been seeing a battle map from a while back.  I wasn't sure if you had some sort of vicious monk thing in mind otherwise I'd have moved to to whack down the remaining two skeletons.

Welcome Globelle! Do not be worried about the fact that I am a High School English teacher at all! No judgement! :)

So the two skeletons I am standing next to are dead then? Since they are grey and not red? Thus unless I spend an action point there isn't much for me to do as it is a bit of a distance to get to the rest of you?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:57, Mon 27 Jan 2014.

Well given your confusion, I'd be willing to solve this issue by giving you an extra move action to negate your present position.

Welcom Globella, to the strange and wonderful world of THE AUTHOR. :)

@All: In which books can I find the Hand of Divine Guldens feat. For the life of me I can't seem to find any information...
This message was last edited by the player at 09:10, Tue 28 Jan 2014.

Bond of Retribution-

Player's Handbook 2. Page 35.

Hand of Divine Guldens does not exist. Perhaps you meant Hand of Divine Guidance?

Hand of Divine Guidance - Dragon Magazine 382. Page 41.

Yes that was what I meant ;)
I just found Bond of Retribution in it that's way I edited my previous post.

Thanx

And the Focused Fury At-Will?
This message was last edited by the player at 09:24, Tue 28 Jan 2014.

I... Huh. Never heard of that book

PH Heroes: Series 2.

In reply to Phelan Drixos (msg # 333):

Ok cool, I'm just looking at other possible at-will's for my character.

Lol! No worries; I'll just hang back for now and take a few moments to compose myself. :)

@Jubei: Xeela is standing next to you when your turn starts (L16).

Okay damnit... so no flanking then :I

Also hello and greetings to Globelle!
This message was last edited by the player at 15:49, Tue 28 Jan 2014.

@Jubei: I don't think it is going to matter. They should be dead now, seeing as all of use are attacking them.

@Author: I have finished my Character Development entry.

Thanks for your welcomes :)

I have made my first post - hopefully it doesn't suck too much.  And Lambent please forgive any grammatical and punctual errors!  I am sure there are loads >.<

*takes out his red pan and giggles maniacally*

@ Author: I just remember that you were waiting for a book (can't remember the name thou). Have revised it or are you still waiting?

pen*

:evil:

Pen? Why would I want a pen?

Pans are much more effective at beating understanding into the masses...it's only red because of all the...erm...students I've had to...um...tutor lately...

*ahem*

I'll give you guys until tomorrow to have a chat with each other in the active RP forum before I post again, and move things along.

Why yes I can take the hint Mr GM. :P You are ever so subtle!

X3  You are after all entitled to a "common sense" check.

@Author: So can We assume that, a short rest was taken as Willa joined the group?

Yes I am running it that you have taken a short rest.  I am sorry for being delayed.  I've been very busy the last two days.

@ Phelan: I think you should take one of the wagons, for your lab/workshop/thing.
It will need some alterations but I think it will work. A nice gypsy-like wagon.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:55, Tue 04 Feb 2014.

For example we need horses to drag it along. Because Jubei sure as hell won't do that. He has dignity and such! xD

Ahu, such a strong kaetyma like you would surly not have any problem with that. but we can let the strong guys pull and push the wagon together to town. There we can purchase the goat-horses we need.

I've updated the combat section of the house rules to reflect the neccessary approach to combat that I believe - based on a good bit of reading around the interwebs - will be the most efficient for this format of the game.

Also, some battles will be treated like skill challenges (more on that in the coming weeks) while some standard battles will feature "fluid" initiative (please see the info in the house rules section first upon initiative blocks first before responding) where initiative check will be made every round.

How will you handle out of turn actions? (I.E Immediate Interrupts and Reactions)