Valerez?   Posted by JJJJ.Group: 0
JJJJ
 GM, 144 posts
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 Bard / Cleric
Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 20:48
Valerez?
Do you think he will return?
RRRR
 GM, 54 posts
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 14:25
Valerez?
No idea. You have probably had more communication from him as a player in your game than we have heard about.
JJJJ
 GM, 145 posts
 Dapper looking
 Bard / Cleric
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 14:56
Valerez?
His last visit was at the end of October last year - and no comms since.  Four month without a visit is a long time ...
RRRR
 GM, 55 posts
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 16:09
Valerez?
Ah, well, it was good while it lasted. I couldn't believe how much work he was putting into that game with several groups running simultaneously.

A bit like you, actually.  ;o)
JJJJ
 GM, 146 posts
 Dapper looking
 Bard / Cleric
Thu 1 Mar 2018
at 16:12
Valerez?
Mine is easier because I have written modules to run from.

I also have a very understanding employer, even if they don't know quite how understanding they are :P
KKKK
 GM, 93 posts
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 13:54
Valerez?
And apologies ... life has been a little hectic lately and popping in here always lost out to trying to squeeze an in-game post in elsewhere ... but I think I've finally caught up !  Ah, that'll be the cue for further chaos !  I shouldnae said that ...

I've not given up on Valerez yet ... I've had GM's go missing for longer and then return ... though to be honest and looking at my sticky list, I don't think any of those games are still running, which some would deem ominous.  I think absolutely his will to run the game is there ... but RL can play havoc with that, so it's probably more a case of I think he'll return if he can.  :>

Kinda reluctant to keep the song and music going at the White Dragon ... not because I'm not getting a kick out of trading verse with Poppy, cos I am, but more cos I think it's getting people's hopes up that there's a GM post suddenly appeared, and we're not getting the to and fro with the PC crowd because they're reluctant to just lift their characters out of whatever situation the GM had them in elsewhere in the city or beyond.

Perhaps it's our three PCs !  We're the kiss of death for a campaign !  Though we probably shouldn't tell any potential GMs that ... <grins>
RRRR
 GM, 56 posts
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 16:30
Valerez?
I think the only active games I am playing in now belong to you two guys. At least we are not the kiss of death for each others' games.  ;o)

Unless we want to hijack one of the existing threads in Valarez and run our own adventure there, we really don't have much choice but to wait and hope for the best, do we?
JJJJ
 GM, 147 posts
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 Bard / Cleric
Sun 11 Mar 2018
at 19:19
Valerez?
In reply to RRRR (msg # 7):

I think you are right about sitting it out for the time being.  I also agree that keeping the songs going just keeps other people's hopes up.

However I think that we should be aware that the game might go, and prepare for that if we want to take the Rotherham else where later.   I really enjoyed the IC banter that we created.

I recall that he said 5 young kids at home and then family problems.   He was also new to rpol and online gaming.
KKKK
 GM, 94 posts
Sat 17 Mar 2018
at 06:01
Valerez?
We could keep chatting away in our IC thread - we're the only PCs in Group 2 so we won't be tripping any of the other players' new message indicators.

Though might be just as easy to create our own thread in here if we want to banter on ?  :>
JJJJ
 GM, 148 posts
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 Bard / Cleric
Sat 17 Mar 2018
at 07:54
Valerez?
I think (for me) this is more about 'Do we want to take the Roths elsewhere' if Valerez falls over, and should we prepare for that?

Good IC banter needs a DM -  almost all of our banter is generated / sparked by the situation the GM puts us in.  All three of us try to make posts that directly address other players, or  'open' posts that someone can respond to easily.  All three of us take the opportunity to do so.  Banter is born ...
RRRR
 GM, 57 posts
Sat 17 Mar 2018
at 08:11
Valerez?
Well that thought was a good prompt for me to make sure I have an up-to-date copy of Gedd's character sheet from Valarez.  :o)

Other than that I don't think we need to do anything else just yet.

Yes, I would be interested in taking the Roth family into another game if Valarez does die, if you two are still keen.
KKKK
 GM, 95 posts
Sat 17 Mar 2018
at 13:22
Valerez?
Oh yes !  To all of that.  I've got a current copy of the character sheet, thankfully - even though we'd probably end up reworking for another game (higher/lower level, different edition, different setting), that's definitely the direction I'll want to go in anyway, come what may.  :>
JJJJ
 GM, 149 posts
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 Bard / Cleric
Sat 17 Mar 2018
at 13:54
Valerez?
Excellent.  I would be a shame to lose a set of such nicely playable characters  :)
JJJJ
 GM, 150 posts
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 Bard / Cleric
Wed 23 May 2018
at 08:17
Valerez?
The DM has been away for more than six months now.  I was thinking of putting a post in Valerez offering any of the players a place in Stolen Land.

Character levels are generally too high in Valerez for them to transfer in as PCs, but I am thinking of offering them NPC type roles for their characters.  I need to  bring some new influential NPC blood into the game - rather than just grunt workers to be exploited.

Which led me to a couple of thoughts ....  One of the things I have been considering is having Oleg sell up (and run set up a proper merchant business).  That seems like an ideal purchase for the Roth's and their entourage (Winnie, Folfast, Wilric and the Potential Pete the Poacher :P  ) - I hate losing a good character, even in the short term.  And it gives Kevin somewhere to write another 300 verses of Bishop Brugar ....

Thoughts?
RRRR
 GM, 58 posts
Wed 23 May 2018
at 13:41
Valerez?
I think you are a glutton for punishment! You were recently telling us how busy your workload is at present - perhaps you ought to wait until July when you expected things to ease off a bit?

But if you do eventually want to extend that invitation I wouldn't mind transplanting Gedd (or a Gedd-like clone?) and creating Pete the Poacher here. I regretted missing out on the opportunity to create Pete the Poacher over there before we lost the DM.
JJJJ
 GM, 151 posts
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 Bard / Cleric
Wed 23 May 2018
at 14:12
Valerez?
Of course I am a glutton for punishment :)  I always have been :)

However, there is not a lot of effort involved bringing the Roths over - that is just a cut and paste job, then give us a 'fuzzy time' thread to banter in and tease the other players up.  And it lets us 'keep in contact' with the characters while we find a new game for them.

The same is true for any other characters that 'port across as NPCs -  BUT none of that happens until the parties are back at home and we are in the 'down time' phase  :)  I have to  plan for that stage of the game -  and I will be bringing in NPCs anyway.  It might even make it a bit easier  if I don't have to write personalities and backgrounds.

I think a large chunk of  the players in that game have applied to Stolen lands (at some point) anyway, some are still with us, others have moved on.  so I am not expecting a great influx, if any at all.  However, they won't be incorporated into the game until until I have some time and space.  That said, I think we have lost two of the new recruits and I think Valoria/Zauria has gone AWOL again - so there might be places earlier.  A a six player party is easier to keep alive than a four player party  ....  and if I do kill one, the rest of you miss them less ....
KKKK
 GM, 96 posts
Sun 27 May 2018
at 14:16
Valerez?
Love the idea ... but you do realise that the Roths would be grabbing blades and bows and be out there in the wilds on the hunt at the first hint of danger or mystery ... can't see any of them wanting to sit still or wait around for the slower, more prudent people you call PCs ! <grins>

Aha ...

NOW I'm thinking older versions of them - the old retired ex-adventurers with tales to tell, advice to give, but willing to leave the hard work and discomforts to the younger crowd.  I might give Berta an eye patch ! :P  And Gedd might walk with a stick, but he can still beat any of 'em at darts.  Wyn's the only problem.  Doesn't look like he's aged a day !

Yes, I'm busy at the moment too.  Yes I'll admit that does seem to be more business as usual for me than anything out of the ordinary.  And yes, I'll obviously be there posting the second Berta hits the roster !  <ROFL>

Not sure I've got another 300 verses of Bishop Brugar in Folfast, though ... ;P
JJJJ
 GM, 152 posts
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 Bard / Cleric
Tue 29 May 2018
at 20:19
Valerez?
Excellent  :)

When the time comes, I will have Oleg sell  his trading post to the Roths - bring Winnie, Wilric and Folfast over as well, and we can set up Pete the Poacher at the same time.

What sort of age range do you want them to be?

Retired and finished adventuring, or just moving on from Valerez looking for a place they can call their own?

I have been planning on the Roth's converting Oleg's to a proper inn, and gradually building up a town around it, along with the Roth Brewery, making Poacher's Pale.    Hmm,  will Pete the Poacher have brewing as skill?  That could be amusing :)
JJJJ
 GM, 153 posts
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 Bard / Cleric
Wed 30 May 2018
at 08:17
Valerez?
talking of ages ..  I thought we had given some thought to starting ages, so looked back over the threads, and found ...

Nathaniel - 50
Marayne - 43
Wyn - 23  (miniumum age half-elf cleric)
Berhta - 21 (maximum age human fighter)
Gedd - 16 (15 is minimum age half-orc ranger)

So if we had started at those ages, what age are we now (as we leave Valerez)? Perhaps a year per level?  So something like .....

Wyn - 30
Berhta - 28
Gedd - 23

Or do you think we should be older?  Younger


And when we settle  in The Stolen lands?  Do we go straight there?  So perhaps a year older for travelling time?  Or do we assume they have adventured somewhere else or spent time somewhere else (living quietly in Valerez?) before they got here?

How old do you want to be?  How old will Folfast be?



RaceMiddle AgeOldVenerableMaximum Age
Cumulative Effects1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha2 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha3 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and ChaGM secretly determines Maximum
Half-elf62 years93 years125 years125 + 3d20 years
Half-orc30 years45 years60 years60 + 2d10 years
Halfling50 years75 years100 years100 + 5d20 years
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KKKK
 GM, 97 posts
Wed 30 May 2018
at 13:12
Valerez?
Folfast is ... 35 - oh good, if we do go older, he won't be dead ... though the way he eats and drinks it'll be a miracle if he does make it to old age !! ;>

I like the idea of them growing old ... but then again, we may need to hold our own against belligerent PCs, so younger works better - nice to have the skill to back up the swagger ... so I'm easy - the ages suggested below or older both work for me.
RRRR
 GM, 59 posts
Wed 30 May 2018
at 14:35
Valerez?
I'm happy with those ages, too. Where would 'Valarez' (or wherever we came from in this world) be in relation to the Stolen Lands? How long would it have taken us to travel to the Stolen Lands? Why have we left at all? Is there some dark secret that drove us out but we don't have any intention of ever telling anyone else about? Like having made an enemy so high up in the Valarez hierarchy that if we stayed we would bring down their vengeance on everyone else we cared about there? Maybe that's why we have wound up in the Stolen Lands, where all sorts of folk can look for a new life without too many awkward questions being asked.
JJJJ
 GM, 154 posts
 Dapper looking
 Bard / Cleric
Wed 30 May 2018
at 15:01
Valerez?
Jeez!  Have we pissed off Mud again ?
RRRR
 GM, 60 posts
Wed 30 May 2018
at 15:13
Valerez?
It was inevitable, really. Just a matter of time. But he really shouldn't have treated Winnie that way.
JJJJ
 GM, 155 posts
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 Bard / Cleric
Wed 30 May 2018
at 15:50
Valerez?
Winnie and Dru were about to go out adventuring (to round out numbers for a short handed group) when everything came to a halt.  I commented, in a PM,  that Dru was a L4 mage built for research and was asking whether I should re-configure her.  I got the following  reply ...

quote:
Winnie is not a combat powerhouse either.  Rogue/bard levels that I never fully wrote out, most of the focus on social and stealthy skills.  She is essentially in training for the family business.


We also know that she was 'checking us out' for the family before the deal to buy into The White Dragon.  So I was planning to build her as a Rogue 3 / Bard 1.  I got a few more things, from Private Lines and trawling the threads, that give an outline of some of her skills.  I settled on L4 as that is Dru's level (although she will be L5 when she gets here, because I want her able to make magic items (probably wands) when she comes across)

So how about Winnie upset Mud, perhaps something that happened in that minor adventure beneath the street of Valerez,  and she was advised (By Kezra and Flessel) to get out of town?  Wyn obviously needed to go, and everyone else tagged along as well.  That also gives me a good excuse to bring Dru over later, when Mud realises that she was involved too.

That way we can afford to be a bit mysterious about where they have come from, and just drop hints of upsetting someone important.  I was thinking of a long and boring journey, so that we leave the Roths exactly as they are - and not re-write them until we find a new game to take them into.  Lets face it, the Roth's as they are, aren't going to be particularly stretched if they travel along fairly major routes that are commonly used by everyday folks.  Especially if they are trying to remain inconspicuous.

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:51, Wed 30 May 2018.

JJJJ
 GM, 156 posts
 Dapper looking
 Bard / Cleric
Wed 30 May 2018
at 20:00
Valerez?
However, How about an Inn/music venue in Tusk Town (instead of taking over Oleg's)

Perhaps with the same purpose as the White Dragon's secret agenda of helping the poor and oppressed (on a smaller scale)   WE might even finish up as agents / sponsors for lower level parties (in a couple of years time)