*clings to wall. shrieks incoherently.*  Posting will resume after full shrieking has occurred, probably in a couple of days. Thank you for your patience. :)

Okay. Can we just assume Dellas has been either studying or working on magic items? And then what ever the party chooses he will join in on. He'd like to go with Volsh again, that was interesting. Besides he has more skeleton's to poke... LOL

I'm puttering around town, so I'm available for whatever you folks are up to.

Sorry I haven't gotten a reply up. End of month at work compounded by the holiday and school closures.

I expect to get one in the pipeline tonight though!

What kind of magic items? I'd be willing to commission an Efficient Quiver or a Handy Haversack if you don't have something specific in mind for yourself.

Oof, that took me long enough to get up. Sorry all.

Looking forward to getting to my first change and moving on with whatever's next for our company!

Ditto, and I'm still a bit lagged... holidays and car troubles ate up a whole lot of time and energy.

Haazheel is around and works on reading and writing with Volsh as he wishes.

Nonsense! There is nothing that Pelor's pure light can't warm! :p

BTW... I can enchant weapons and armor. Possibly for less then a merchant. ... Of course, you'd have to give a pretty convincing argument for me to enchant a weapon that doesn't glow with a warm golden light. ... I might make it blue, I suppose... ;)

Also, thanks for the recap, Averdante. I had forgotten about the fortune telling! I don't suppose you shared it with the rest of us yet. That's too bad about the car trouble. I sometimes wonder what's the larger money suck, cars or kids?

^ those ;P

LOL Not having any 2-footed kids, I'd have to go cars! But it wasn't anything exotic, just replacing a clutch. After 253K, I suppose it's entitled....

Having Farian enchant a blade could be interesting. I'm not used to that being something done in D&D.

And yeah, he'll tell everyone about the fortune, given if he's with them, the danger will spill out over them, too -- and it was pretty clear he wouldn't survive the threat solo! He'd just wait until everyone was back together again, so he only has to say it once.

I love it that we have two magic crafters in the party. I learned to play 3.5 from the Temple of Elemental Evil CRPG. Having a cleric that can craft weapons and armor was almost a Must Have™ in that game. Especially since a few of the found items were bugged. They'd identify and work as +1, but once you selected the item for crafting, you'd find that they had a +3! Select that, hit the craft button, and bingo! A +3 item for no extra cost.

Miscellaneous Items crafting, of course, lead to a lot of Gauntlets of Giant Strength or Gloves of Dexterity. To Hit and / or AC bonuses for everyone!

One thing that I usually did in that game that I didn't here was give my divine caster the Scribe Scroll feat. A cleric with a pocket full of Cure {type} Wounds or a druid with a handful of Produce Flame or {animal's} {ability} scrolls always came in handy at the lower levels.

I can create scrolls and Craft Wondrous items provided I have the coin, xp and spells to create said item.

So if you want something along those lines. It is something we could do. You may perhaps have to purchase the appropriate spells for me and provide me with funds to inscribe them along with paying for the Materials. Not quiet sure how to recoup the XP costs as of yet and be reasonable to a party member.

To recoup XP, we could always do Side Quests^tm for the casters, which might be more in the intellectual realms of quests than hack-and-slash. Or I could take a small leaf from Pathfinder and dispense with that part of the creation costs so no one lags behind.

What say you all?

I'm good either way.  Whatever makes the casters' and dm's lives easier

Personally I like the XP for item creation mechanic and was sad to see it go away in PF and later editions of the game. There is just something evocative to me about a caster who thinks an item is worth investing a portion of their "spark" or whatever into the crafting that is lost without XP for crafting. Also... you can't have villains sucking out people's souls to fuel crafting if there is no XP costs! ;)

That said, I'm not a caster in the group, so I don't really have a dog in the fight. I'm open to whatever the group as a whole wants to do.

Would you retain XP costs on crafting for items that have spells that use XP as fuel (there are only 14 total spells in the 3.5 PHB that require it)? Or you could do what PF did as well, take any XP requirements and turn them into a diamond or other valuable component that is 5 gp x XP value of the 3.5 spells, so the cost is there it just comes from a different pool.


There is also a mechanic in 3.5 where XP costs can be shared or borne by the person commissioning the item. Up to 5 people can share the XP cost on an item. It's from PHB2.

I've quoted it in a PL to the GM below so as not the clutter the thread for everyone else. Let me know if you want me to add you to the PL to see the rules.
This message was lightly edited by the player at 22:57, Fri 06 Dec 2019.

I've used XP transfer in 3.5 games past as well - the wizard gets their new scrolls/potions/rings for themselves, and the fighter gets their new magic sword, and everyone splits all the costs equally.  i.e. the fighter has to be there aiding in some of the rituals to help enchant his sword so the wizard can put the fighter's own spirit into it.  That way the wizard isn't stuck behind a desk, so to speak, for a week while the fighter goes off to drink at the tavern. ;)

Which reminds me, everyone take 4000XP for various things done!

I like the XP loss mechanic as well as it does create a sense of investment into the items. And keeps PC's and NPC's just creating what ever they want when they want.

That puts me to 7th. Theres an error in the RPOL code the new messages are not displaying correctly for me at all.

In reply to Dellas Nump (msg # 29):

You can try to re-log. It might be a cookie issue.

Puts me to 7th as well. I'd presume everyone...?

EDIT: GM do you want us to go ahead level up?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:53, Fri 06 Dec 2019.

In reply to Volsh son of Vor (msg # 30):

Yeah it's the only sight I'm having an odd viewing issue. Soon as I reply to a message though it looks normal. And it's not all messages just the new ones for the day.

Still doing it even after cleared cookies. And it's only this particular thread.

I think that the formatting issue is in Volsh's private line to the DM. Volsh or the DM could edit it to fix it.

As for XP cost for creating, I'm mostly a fan. In one of my campaigns, I did away with the Craft Magic feats and replaced it with Incantations. The more powerful the item, the higher the incantation's DC, and the more dire the repercussions for failure. It made the players think twice before creating powerful artifacts.

Thank the gods for the Part II OOC thread. I had my XP all wrong. Per message #716 in that thread, our last award put us at 17,000. The new 4,000 gives us ... (counts on Thunder's individual hairs) ... 21,000! Level 7 for those who didn't / can't craft!

I think I fixed it. There were a few "[1]" in the text that was messing with the PL code. Should be private to just DM and I now, sorry for that!