Character Ranks and Positions as of 7/24/14.   Posted by Galaxy Master.Group: 0
Kintal (Vulk'Inta'Lhaal)
 FreeXenon, 65 posts
 Lt. Kintal (Supp Service)
 FVO - Chief Deck Officer
Tue 5 Aug 2014
at 19:06
Re: Character Ranks and Positions as of 7/24/14
TheForce.net shows the same basic officer pattern as the Imperials, so I imagine the enlisted rankings will most likely follow too.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/domino.html

I will have to compare this to what is in the AoR book to see if there is parity.
Mallios
 DavidBarron, 25 posts
 Pirate
 Wounds 0/13 Strain 0/13
Tue 5 Aug 2014
at 19:50
Re: Character Ranks and Positions as of 7/24/14
Fancy chart. As an aside, Paul withdrew from the game, and I don't believe Gasden(if he is coming back) holds any kind of office. Mallios would be Pirate faction.
Kintal (Vulk'Inta'Lhaal)
 FreeXenon, 66 posts
 Lt. Kintal (Supp Service)
 FVO - Chief Deck Officer
Tue 5 Aug 2014
at 20:02
Re: Character Ranks and Positions as of 7/24/14
In reply to Mallios (msg # 8):

updated

thanks
Tak
 JenTayer, 62 posts
 Pirate Boarder/Security
 Wounds:0/13 Strain:0/13
Tue 5 Aug 2014
at 20:34
Re: Character Ranks and Positions as of 7/24/14
Tak is also a pirate, like Mallios.  We're kind of a set :P
Mallios
 DavidBarron, 26 posts
 Pirate
 Wounds 0/13 Strain 0/13
Tue 5 Aug 2014
at 21:04
Re: Character Ranks and Positions as of 7/24/14
Like Batman and Robin. Just so we are clear, I am not the sidekick...
Lyla
 Furousha, 17 posts
 Weapons Officer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 08:14
Re: Character Ranks and Positions as of 7/24/14
Mallios:
Like Batman and Robin. Just so we are clear, I am not the sidekick...


Psh.  I demand a Tak vs Mallios sparring match to decide which one gets to be Batman!  (my money's on the Mohawk! :D)
Kintal (Vulk'Inta'Lhaal)
 FreeXenon, 67 posts
 Lt. Kintal (Supp Service)
 FVO - Chief Deck Officer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 13:19
Re: Alliance Ranks
From the AoR book my officer list seems to track well, but the enlisted ranks did not, so I have corrected this by looking at the US Army ranks and the Rank Listing from the link below. I have also removed the Warrant Officer ranks for simplicity. This should be much more representative of what is in the AoR book. Most of us will only see enlisted and officer ranks. command ranks will most likely be left to NPCs.

Boarding party/Security/Army/Spec Forces can use the "Army" rankings.
Pilots and and ship's personnel would use the "Navy" rankings.

C Rank.RankArmyNavy
Command Ranks
14+C-5High General (system forces)Fleet Admiral (fleet/sector forces)
13C-4General(4 corps)Admiral (system forces)
12C-3Lieutenant GeneralVice Admiral
11C-2Major General (several battlegroups, a corps)Rear Admiral (as Commodore)
10C-1Brigadier (brigade)Commodore (system's squad of several lines)
Officer Ranks
9O-6ColonelCaptain (ship or important aide)
8O-5Lieutenant Colonel (regiment)Commander (small ship or large ship section)
7O-4Major (batallion)Lieutenant Commander (large ship section)
6O-3Captain (company)Lieutenant (ship system)
5O-2First Lieutenant (platoon)Sub-Lieutenant (ship sub-system)
5O-1Second LieutenantEnsign (ship minor system)
Non-Commissioned Officer Ranks
4E-9Sargent MajorMaster Chief Petty Officer
3E-8Master SargentSenior Chief Petty Officer
3E-7Gunnery SargentChief Petty Officer
Senior Enlisted Ranks
2E-6Staff SargentPetty Officer I
2E-5Sargent(squad)Petty Officer II
1E-4Senior TrooperSenior Deckman
Enlisted Ranks
1E-3Trooper (section)Deckman
0E-2Trooper First ClassDeckman Apprentice
0E-1Trooper RecruitDeckman Recruit



The Supreme Command Silos

I used this link to inform me a bit at least as far as the different command silos:

http://tierfoncampaign.blogspo...itary-structure.html

For the most part command silos will not matter to us at all unless someone gets into a rank-pulling pissing match with someone higher up, so this can merely be informative.

The below text is pulled directly from that page:

Sector Command (SC): General Joba Dass (Human female). The largest branch of High Command, the job of the SecCom chief is to oversee the thousands of individual Sectors, all across the galaxy, in which the civil war is raging. The structure of the Rebellion is such that control for each Sector is largely left in the hands of the local command structure. Alliance Headquarters cannot hope to keep close tabs on all developments throughout all warzones; the best they can do is try to focus their limited resources and collective efforts in key areas, using strategic partnerships.
(naval ranking)

Fleet Command (f): Admiral Gial Ackbar (Mon Calamari male). The fleet command includes the collection of expensive capital ships belonging to the Alliance and thus is considered the most important element in the military.
Fleet Command has its own rank structure (naval ranking).

Starfighter Command (SfC): General Jan Dodonna (Human male). Starfighter Command recruits and trains pilots, assigns wings to the Fleet and to various Sector forces, and generally manages the vast number of starfighters in the Rebel Alliance inventory. (naval ranking)

Support Services (SS): General Seti Nee (Gran female). Support Services provides just that, specialty personnel and equipment to support the other branches of the Alliance military hierarchy: bulk and light freighters, cooks, doctors, mechanics, and so on. (navy ranking)

Intelligence (Intell): General Roan Vernan (Human male). The Intelligence arm of the Rebel military mainly gathers information on Imperial activities and military movements. To this end they recruit and manage an extensive network of spies and high tech eavesdropping and electronic surveillance assets. (army  ranking)

Ordnance and Supply (OaS): General Ral'Rai Muvunc (Twi'lek male). Ordnance and Supply is tasked with keeping the Fleet, Spec Force and Starfighter Commands supplied with exotic and expensive equipment. OaS is also responsible for granting and issuing Letters of Marque and Reprisal, effectively making the OaS chief the head of a rag-tag fleet of privateers composed of smugglers and mercenaries. Not everyone in the Alliance High Command approves of this aspect of the OaS mission.
(army ranking)

SpecForce Command (SF): General Crix Madine (Human male). SpecForce recruits and trains commandos capable of succeeding at daring and difficult missions anywhere in the galaxy. (army ranking)

This message was last edited by the player at 19:17, Wed 06 Aug 2014.

Rick Lightrender
 Angelalex242, 64 posts
 Bounty Hunter
 Laid Back
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 14:11
Re: Alliance Ranks
It looks like I'm in the E6 to E4 range.
Feshi Arapto
 Kegdrainer, 39 posts
 Duros Tech/Slicer
 Chief Engineer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 14:50
Re: Alliance Ranks
Might want to change the E-7 rank (Army) to Gunnery Sgt as the E7/E8 you have listed are the same in modern US Army. Also change the E-4 (Army)to Corporal.
Rick Lightrender
 Angelalex242, 65 posts
 Bounty Hunter
 Laid Back
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 14:55
Re: Alliance Ranks
It's also nice to know that if we see an E9 show up, we can send him by himself to take care of the Covenant, and it'll be fine.

Ya know. Cause he'll be a Master Chief. ;)
Evan Fardreamer
 ennervance, 50 posts
 Scion of a Lost Line
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 14:57
Re: Alliance Ranks
In reply to Rick Lightrender (msg # 16):

It was actually a pretty significant plot point in the novels when John-117 was placed at that rank, and how he worked with all the other Spartan candidates.

On topic - do we want to have any sort of promotion ceremonies when someone jumps tiers, say going from E3 to E4? Or should we leave that to just the officer ranks? I know I'm not even E1 yet so it won't matter to me for some time.
Kintal (Vulk'Inta'Lhaal)
 FreeXenon, 68 posts
 Lt. Kintal (Supp Service)
 FVO - Chief Deck Officer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 14:59
Re: Alliance Ranks
In reply to Feshi Arapto (msg # 15):

Those ranks are as they are due to what is listed on pg 393 AoR. It lists Trooper and Senior Trooper as enlisted Rebellion Ranks, which off course, are not in modern military ranks, so I had to work things to make it all make some sense.

Gunnery Sargent is a Marine Corp rank and I did not look at their ranking systems, just the army's.
Feshi Arapto
 Kegdrainer, 40 posts
 Duros Tech/Slicer
 Chief Engineer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 15:21
Re: Alliance Ranks
That was why I has suggested Gunnery Sgt than SFC (Sgt First Class). Master Sgt/First Sgt is the exact same rank (E-8). Maybe Senior Sgt?
Kintal (Vulk'Inta'Lhaal)
 FreeXenon, 69 posts
 Lt. Kintal (Supp Service)
 FVO - Chief Deck Officer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 15:33
Re: Alliance Ranks
In reply to Feshi Arapto (msg # 19):

I see what you are doing.
I did not notice that. OK, Gunnery Sargent it is.

Ok, there ya go. How is that.

This message was last edited by the player at 15:35, Wed 06 Aug 2014.

Feshi Arapto
 Kegdrainer, 41 posts
 Duros Tech/Slicer
 Chief Engineer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 15:55
Re: Alliance Ranks
Works for me. (one of the few things that I drilled into me in the Army was the list of ranks)
Kintal (Vulk'Inta'Lhaal)
 FreeXenon, 70 posts
 Lt. Kintal (Supp Service)
 FVO - Chief Deck Officer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 16:02
Re: Alliance Ranks
In reply to Feshi Arapto (msg # 21):

Me too, I was in the Navy. =)
Kintal (Vulk'Inta'Lhaal)
 FreeXenon, 71 posts
 Lt. Kintal (Supp Service)
 FVO - Chief Deck Officer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 20:45
Re: Alliance Ranks
GM please let me know if you find this useful or if you would like to use this. =)


I added contribution ranks and what our potential ranks would be based off that. I do not expect that this will be followed given how spread out our duties are and how motley our crew is. Some of us are officers in charge of stuff and some are enlisted. At most this may be a reference.


CC Rank: The left most CC Rank column assumes that a person progresses over the entire campaign adn will advanced from enlisted to officer.

IC Rank: The IC Rank column is working assuming that you advance your career as only an enlisted or only and officer. This is where the Warrant Officer ranks can really come in handy. These are nothing official mind you, but it gives us something to work with in case the GM finds it useful.


Boarding party/Security/Army/Spec Forces can use the "Army" rankings.
Pilots and and ship's personnel would use the "Navy" rankings.

CC. Rank.RankArmyNavyIC. Rank
Command Ranks
14+C-5High General (system forces)Fleet Admiral (fleet/sector forces)14+
13C-4General(4 corps)Admiral (system forces)13
12C-3Lieutenant GeneralVice Admiral12
11C-2Major General (several battlegroups, a corps)Rear Admiral (as Commodore)11
10C-1Brigadier (brigade)Commodore (system's squad of several lines)10
Officer Ranks
9O-6ColonelCaptain (ship or important aide)8-9
8O-5Lieutenant Colonel (regiment)Commander (small ship or large ship section)7-8
7O-4Major (batallion)Lieutenant Commander (large ship section)6-7
6O-3Captain (company)Lieutenant (ship system)4-5
5O-2First Lieutenant (platoon)Sub-Lieutenant (ship sub-system)2-3
5O-1Second LieutenantEnsign (ship minor system)0-1
Warrant Officer Ranks
-W-5Command Warrant OfficerFleet Warrant Officer14
-W-4Chief Warrant OfficerChief Warrant Officer13
-W-3Senior Warrant OfficerSenior Warrant Officer12
-W-2Warrant OfficerWarrant Officer11
-W-1SpecialistTechnician10
Non-Commissioned Officer Ranks
4E-9Sargent MajorMaster Chief Petty Officer8-9
3E-8Master SargentSenior Chief Petty Officer7
3E-7Gunnery SargentChief Petty Officer6
Senior Enlisted Ranks
2E-6Staff SargentPetty Officer I5
2E-5Sargent(squad)Petty Officer II4
1E-4Senior TrooperSenior Deckman3
Enlisted Ranks
1E-3Trooper (section)Deckman2
0E-2Trooper First ClassDeckman Apprentice1
0E-1Trooper RecruitDeckman Recruit0

The Supreme Command Silos

I used this link to inform me a bit at least as far as the different command silos:

http://tierfoncampaign.blogspo...itary-structure.html

For the most part command silos will not matter to us at all unless someone gets into a rank-pulling pissing match with someone higher up, so this can merely be informative.

The below text is pulled directly from that page:

Sector Command (SC): General Joba Dass (Human female). The largest branch of High Command, the job of the SecCom chief is to oversee the thousands of individual Sectors, all across the galaxy, in which the civil war is raging. The structure of the Rebellion is such that control for each Sector is largely left in the hands of the local command structure. Alliance Headquarters cannot hope to keep close tabs on all developments throughout all warzones; the best they can do is try to focus their limited resources and collective efforts in key areas, using strategic partnerships.
(naval ranking)

Fleet Command (f): Admiral Gial Ackbar (Mon Calamari male). The fleet command includes the collection of expensive capital ships belonging to the Alliance and thus is considered the most important element in the military.
Fleet Command has its own rank structure (naval ranking).

Starfighter Command (SfC): General Jan Dodonna (Human male). Starfighter Command recruits and trains pilots, assigns wings to the Fleet and to various Sector forces, and generally manages the vast number of starfighters in the Rebel Alliance inventory. (naval ranking)

Support Services (SS): General Seti Nee (Gran female). Support Services provides just that, specialty personnel and equipment to support the other branches of the Alliance military hierarchy: bulk and light freighters, cooks, doctors, mechanics, and so on. (navy ranking)

Intelligence (Intell): General Roan Vernan (Human male). The Intelligence arm of the Rebel military mainly gathers information on Imperial activities and military movements. To this end they recruit and manage an extensive network of spies and high tech eavesdropping and electronic surveillance assets. (army  ranking)

Ordnance and Supply (OaS): General Ral'Rai Muvunc (Twi'lek male). Ordnance and Supply is tasked with keeping the Fleet, Spec Force and Starfighter Commands supplied with exotic and expensive equipment. OaS is also responsible for granting and issuing Letters of Marque and Reprisal, effectively making the OaS chief the head of a rag-tag fleet of privateers composed of smugglers and mercenaries. Not everyone in the Alliance High Command approves of this aspect of the OaS mission.
(army ranking)

SpecForce Command (SF): General Crix Madine (Human male). SpecForce recruits and trains commandos capable of succeeding at daring and difficult missions anywhere in the galaxy. (army ranking)
Rick Lightrender
 Angelalex242, 66 posts
 Bounty Hunter
 Laid Back
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 21:13
Re: Alliance Ranks
Just for reference, I think, since you mentioned the famous Admiral Ackbar, you should include the ranks of the most famous Star Wars character within the Rebellion. If they're know, that is.

By which I mean Luke/Han/Leia/Chewie (as a known Jedi, Luke's in kind of an odd spot, but even so...)
Kintal (Vulk'Inta'Lhaal)
 FreeXenon, 72 posts
 Lt. Kintal (Supp Service)
 FVO - Chief Deck Officer
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 21:21
Re: Alliance Ranks
In reply to Rick Lightrender (msg # 24):

Of course those answers depend on era... hmmm I may take a look at that.
Would definitely put things in perspective.
Rick Lightrender
 Angelalex242, 67 posts
 Bounty Hunter
 Laid Back
Wed 6 Aug 2014
at 23:06
Re: Alliance Ranks
This is Rebellion Era, ABY, so we're talking episode 5/6 Luke, Han, Leia, Chewie.

I do recall the Star Wars Battlefront games referring to him as 'Commander Skywalker.'

By contrast, they call his dad 'Lord Vader.'

This message was last edited by the player at 23:10, Wed 06 Aug 2014.

Damaris Eire
 korodikrisz, 44 posts
 W: 0/11 S: 0/13
 S: 2 D: 0/0 Pr: 3
Thu 7 Aug 2014
at 06:03
Re: Alliance Ranks
In Episode V they also refer them by ranks. (I think they were Commander Skywalker and Captain Solo? I don't quite remember.)
Rick Lightrender
 Angelalex242, 68 posts
 Bounty Hunter
 Laid Back
Thu 7 Aug 2014
at 06:10
Re: Alliance Ranks
Well, he maybe 'Captain Solo' cause he technically has his own ship. I'm not sure that translates him into Captain, the military rank.

Commander Skywalker is definitely the rank, though.
Aryssa Mykeris
 Furousha, 29 posts
 CAG/FVO Section Commander
Thu 7 Aug 2014
at 07:37
Re: Alliance Ranks
Yep, luke was Commander, iirc Han was a general by ep 6 (maybe that's EU though...)
Evan Fardreamer
 ennervance, 51 posts
 Scion of a Lost Line
Thu 7 Aug 2014
at 15:37
Re: Alliance Ranks
In reply to Aryssa Mykeris (msg # 29):

Nah, the briefing where he was selecting his team for the assault on Endor was at the beginning, and he was addressed as general then to the best of my memory. However that was after 5, where I can't recall him being referred to by any specific rank.
Tor Karran
 NX_Phoenix, 37 posts
 Alliance Quartermaster
 Far Orbit SENCOM Chief
Sun 10 Aug 2014
at 02:21
Re: Alliance Ranks
A couple things:
    1) Tor is definitely Rebel affiliated and still actively reporting to Ordinance and Supply.  The "Rebel advised" element of the quartermaster position is more of the Rebels keeping tabs on the Far Orbit's supplies and acquisitions through him.

    2) He would have some existing rank in Ordinance and Supply that has not been assigned by the GM yet.

I'll follow up with my requisite in-character post tomorrow when I have more than a phone in a hotel room.