Animal class safari ship I uploaded to googledrive...you'll have to max zoom in to see clearly.

https://drive.google.com/file/...Zms/edit?usp=sharing

let me know if it works.

Works perfectly, Darrel.  I can see the ship stats.

The Safari ship has no fuel scoops by default either.  And as Vonon noted, it's cargo bay (which is only 20+ tons) would have to be converted...

Also I have no idea what most of the special qualities do. Aerofins? Solar Power Plant? Autocannons? Not in the books I know.

Still, apart from the lack of Scoops it is in my eyes a good all around ship.
A pity that there are so few 300ton ships. I think those would be prefect for our group.

This version does have fuel scoops at the front of the fuel tanks.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:15, Sat 23 Aug 2014.

Is it possible to also keep cargo inside the cargo hold of the launch during interstellar travel? If yes those are another 13 tons.

Are those stats from Classic Traveller?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:22, Sat 23 Aug 2014.

Oooooh, the Millennium Falcon, or maybe the Ebon Hawk

It is a nice ship, although yes, the small cargo (which would probably have to be modified) would limit us to high-value items, which might be problematic depending on the world(s) we'd be operating from/to.

The fuel scoops are a welcome addition to this ship, and if we get rid of the low berths (5 tons), put in fuel processors (2=2 tons), which would also add an additional 3 tons cargo...

It would meet most of the conditions we were looking for...although we would need to eventually switch out one of the double turrets for a triple and add some offensive firepower.

One thing about the far trader;
Modified Type A2 Far Trader Last Chance; 20 years old.
Assume payments; pay just MCr5.5.
Good condition; full software, weapons, extras
.

I'm interested to see what that means exactly....

Actually, those stats are a blend of CT and MonT.

I'm pretty sure the reference was from Mongoose Traveller's Traders and Gunboats.

It does seem to be inconsistent with its own rules, though, as the rules say 5% of crystaliron is a value of 4, and streamlined ships automatically have fuel scoops.

With Scoops that ship looks a lot better.
How much cargo space do we realistically need?

And how much freedom have we with remodeling the ship? I guess exchanging turrets will take some time in a shipyard but should be possible. What about interior changes like replacing the low berths? But I guess that depends a lot on the deck plan. If the berths are far away from the rest of the storage area it would be pretty hard to store cargo there.
And what about software upgrades?

Obviously, alot of this is stuff to accomplish in IC...my worry, once we decide and use our "shares" on a ship....that's it, we're stuck with it until other circumstances arrive that might allow the group a different ship...and I feel that isn't going to happen very often.

As I see things, shares are a one time commitment thing...calling favors, contacts, getting good deals..and getting your ship...once you've shot your bolt....

Then again, I might be wrong, depends on the GM...


It's always better to have than have not. Just from the standpoint of every time the ship lifts off, no matter the cargo, we meet our expenses...and on certain worlds...the only way we can do that is in bulk cargo....Understand?

Concerning remodeling, not being the GM, I'd imagine ripping out lowberths (and maybe getting some credits) would be fairly simple....and yes depending on location, might be problematic, however, inventiveness is never in short supply when it come to players..like your comment about the 13 tons of launch space....

Software upgrades/better turrets/etc...will likely require a higher grade starport...which, with luck, we'll get too eventually.

No worries, we survive the 8pm meeting and then carry on, we'll get a ship, let's just make sure it's the right one... ;-)

Yoo know what has a lot of cargo space??  The Giant Big Boy at the end of Austin Powers.

True...however, I'm trying to focus on realistic fantasy and not penis orientated things...

oops

*blushes*

For the time being, a smaller vessel, while more likely to get attacked, would be better for our budget. While there is no guarantee that there will be mail, doing it once a month will help with the overhead. And if not, then we have 5 tons more of space for hauling things.  The "extras" does have me curious. If it is smugglers space, just leave them empty a few times or call them emergency cargo space.

We can start with 1-5K per ton cargo as speculation and expand from there.

Concur with ripping out the low berths. Even getting half price for them (25kcr ea.) that will make a good nest egg for speculation (150kcr)

As you had mentioned earlier..fuel processors (at least 1 ton)..a real need....that easy stuff...

I guess before we make extensive remodeling discussions we first have to decide on a ship and also see its deck plan.

By the way, can anyone explain the special qualities of the Safari ship like Metal Hydride Storage?

Far trader has scoops and purification plant (2 tons)  If we later covert a few tones into additional purification plants, it will help speed up the wait for it to be converted. Over 2 days now, an additional 3 tons of them would get it done in under a day.

Yep. Well, it's a "merchant's dream"...Honestly, I give less than a damn about our ship in a way....only in the sense what makes sense for us.

Metal hydride storage is a battery, presumably meant as an emergency backup to the power plant.

I'm guessing they were explained in the supplement that the ship stats came from.

They didn't call it a battery probably to eliminate confusion with a 'weapons battery'.

I googled that term and came up with storing hydrogen by bonding it to metal. It would be nice if someone with the expanded ship books could find the rules for the Metal Hydride storage, the solar panels, aerofins, multi environment space and autocannons.

Ahhhh....well...I'll work on that, but not tonight...too many Guinness to think straight...or even sideways.

The more I think about it, perhaps the far trader is our best bet...it's simple and I'm hoping that some of the modifications/extras prove useful.

I got High Guard a few days ago and now it makes sense that the Safari Ship does not have scoops.
It's kinda hard to refill at a gas giant when you store the fuel in solid form.

With a bit of time on the trip back from the dome, Walter started checking out the various ads to see if there is a vessel that will fit the groups needs, starting with Far Trader Last Chance and Aggressor-Class Corsair Eternal Knight

Darrel will check the official/unoffical imperial database for any information concerning the Far Trader Last Chance and the Corsair Eternal Knight for any discrepancies in their history, paperwork and general overall news.

OOC:08:42, Today: Darrel Cromwell rolled 14 using 2d6+5.  data check for ships. +1 advocate, +2 Int mod, +1 Skill augment, +1 program.

I just wanted to ensure that there's no catches to our potential ship.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:42, Tue 01 Sept 2015.