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Dungeon Master
 GM, 1790 posts
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 DM
Thu 26 May 2016
at 16:37
 msg #934
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Very few magical weapons were presented in the module - Rowyn had one, but she got away.

Basically the modules provide money, and then you go and buy your own magical weapons. That's the idea as long as you don't spend all your money raising your colleagues :P
Logan
 player, 581 posts
 Unchained Rogue 4
Thu 26 May 2016
at 16:38
 msg #935
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Dungeon Master:
Very few magical weapons were presented in the module - Rowyn had one, but she got away.

Basically the modules provide money, and then you go and buy your own magical weapons. That's the idea as long as you don't spend all your money raising your colleagues :P

Oops.
Dungeon Master
 GM, 1791 posts
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 DM
Thu 26 May 2016
at 17:08
 msg #936
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
:D :D All part of the game bro!
Alohan Nuari
 player, 423 posts
 Barbarian 2 / Monk 2
Thu 26 May 2016
at 22:53
 msg #937
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Logan is one expensive friend. I could of had a palace full of women by now.
Kassius
 player, 403 posts
 Hunter 4
Thu 26 May 2016
at 23:10
 msg #938
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Expected WBL for level 4 characters is 6000 gp. Raise dead cost 5k, spread over 5 players means we each should have had ~5000 gp to play with. A +1 weapon is almost half of that (2300+ gp), which is a lot for just a weapon. Armor, shield, misc. etc all cost a lot too. For Alohan, there's an extra cost for amulet of mighty fists b/c ... reasons?

Generally, I'd expect primarily martial (non-unarmed) characters to have +1 weapons, which Kassius and Logan both do. I wouldn't expect other characters who either only sort of melee (Angati), or have to pay extra (Alohan) to have magical weapons until level 5-6.

On a related note:
quote:
(Buckler is a +1 magic weapon I believe for the purposes of shield bash)

I don't think that's true. I believe shields need to be enhanced separately as weapons and as shields. In fact, I think there's a feat that allows one to use the shield bonus as the weapon bonus.

Also, you can't bash with bucklers, only with light or heavy shields. It's the only reason to have a light shield over a buckler.
Alohan Nuari
 player, 424 posts
 Barbarian 2 / Monk 2
Thu 26 May 2016
at 23:32
 msg #939
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Kassius's explanation of expected WBL is one of the many reasons I don't like Pathfinder. Too much work attempting to balance everything. Magic weapons should be a gift- should be rare- not something you HAVE to have in order to be relevant against monsters CR5+. 5e kind of addresses the problem but I have sworn off all GMing and playing besides this particular game -I dont really have any experience with it like I do Pathfinder. Plus, there is a lack of variety that hasnt been quite addressed.
Celene
 player, 888 posts
 Sorcerer 3 / Cleric 1
Thu 26 May 2016
at 23:37
 msg #940
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
It could be easily overcome by taking the right spells. I have access to magic weapon. It isn't memorized though. 750 gp for a wand of it might not be a bad idea at some point.
Angati
 PC, 572 posts
 Oracle 4
Fri 27 May 2016
at 07:22
 msg #941
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
In reply to Alohan Nuari (msg # 939):

I have been trying out DnD5e as you know... and while its balanced, much more so than pathfinder. You walk narrow paths with regards to character development... and what is worse, combat is over simplified, not so much to do or think about.

@Kassius:
If you are certain about what you said, then I'd edit my action... or maybe just leave it at the fail it was. I thought buckler was just another kind of light shield... but, I don't think a feat is needed in order to bash, you only need proficiency. What you get with improved shield bash is that you can still add your shield bonus to AC http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/...-bash-combat---final (which I had neglected to do anyway, but I had not known until now, running actions from rules memorised is sometimes not good it seems.).
Dungeon Master
 GM, 1792 posts
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Fri 27 May 2016
at 10:11
 msg #942
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Alohan Nuari:
Kassius's explanation of expected WBL is one of the many reasons I don't like Pathfinder. Too much work attempting to balance everything. Magic weapons should be a gift- should be rare- not something you HAVE to have in order to be relevant against monsters CR5+.


To be fair Ron, that approach to magic items is only correct in a low-magic campaign and we are definitely not playing one of those. Both Mystara and the STAP are high-magic campaigns where magical items are bought and sold the same way as commodities like sugar, coffee and galley slaves.

Alohan Nuari:
5e kind of addresses the problem but I have sworn off all GMing and playing besides this particular game -I dont really have any experience with it like I do Pathfinder. Plus, there is a lack of variety that hasnt been quite addressed.


Are you only playing in this game now? Wow. If you are confining yourself to one game then I am honoured and extremely happy that you have selected mine. (Happy to have all of you playing of course!)

Beni, you can’t shield bash with a buckler but no worries about retracting the action, it was a miss anyway :/

Celene, why don’t we just make the melee types buy some magic weapons? On that note, why doesn’t Alohan just borrow Logan’s magical rapier for the rest of the module? If you go to the loot thread I have listed Logan’s items and you are welcome to borrow what you want, just let me know.
Angati
 PC, 573 posts
 Oracle 4
Fri 27 May 2016
at 11:24
 msg #943
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
quote:
On that note, why doesn’t Alohan just borrow Logan’s magical rapier for the rest of the module?


Yeah sure, another thing to dangle from Alohan's loin cloth... :)

or... maybe he is contemplating the option of a piercing there instead of using a scabbard ?.
Dungeon Master
 GM, 1794 posts
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 DM
Fri 27 May 2016
at 12:00
 msg #944
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Well that would be very unorthodox... But I will allow it.
Angati
 PC, 577 posts
 Oracle 4
Tue 31 May 2016
at 19:57
 msg #945
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Tough week at work guys... general meeting of shareholders day after tomorrow with people coming. Sorry for low input.
Angati
 PC, 579 posts
 Oracle 4
Wed 1 Jun 2016
at 13:04
 msg #946
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
quote:
Angati: Divine Favor grants +1 from levels 1-5, +2 from 6-8, and +3 afterwards. It rounds down like normal.

Wow an action for that ? seems downright shitty
Celene
 player, 894 posts
 Sorcerer 3 / Cleric 1
Wed 1 Jun 2016
at 13:08
 msg #947
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
It's pretty good because it stacks with lots of other bonuses.

If you have the fates favored trait it gets even better with another +1 on top of it.

+2 to hit and damage for a level one cleric for ten rounds isn't too bad.
Dungeon Master
 GM, 1805 posts
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 DM
Wed 1 Jun 2016
at 18:34
 msg #948
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Out on the town tomorrow so no post!
Kassius
 player, 410 posts
 Hunter 4
Thu 2 Jun 2016
at 22:51
 msg #949
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Divine favor is awesome for combat oriented divine casters. As Celene said, it stacks with everything (and is one of the reasons that Fate's Favored is by far the best trait in the game. It would be a solid choice as a full feat, although that's a separate issue).
At low levels, it's nice as a pre-combat buff when you know you're about to get ambushed, or in the first round of what you expect to be a tough fight. It gets really good at higher levels, particularly if you have some way of quickening it.
Angati seems like she's primarily a caster who does some melee, so it's not particularly suited to her strengths, but it's still a nice buff on occasion.
Angati
 PC, 580 posts
 Oracle 4
Fri 3 Jun 2016
at 22:21
 msg #950
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
I am so lacking with regards to knowing feats traits and detailed rulings :P

Thanks for the info though, I'll keep it in mind.
Angati
 PC, 582 posts
 Oracle 4
Tue 7 Jun 2016
at 17:32
 msg #951
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
@Alohan @GM: if aloha wants and Angati sees him, maybe he can get a Misfortune to reroll that save.
Dungeon Master
 GM, 1815 posts
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Wed 8 Jun 2016
at 17:52
 msg #952
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Angati:
I am so lacking with regards to knowing feats traits and detailed rulings :P

Thanks for the info though, I'll keep it in mind.

I feel the same way Beni. I consider myself very lucky to have such experienced and committed players in this game.
Angati
 PC, 583 posts
 Oracle 4
Thu 9 Jun 2016
at 06:49
 msg #953
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
quote:
The two krenshars close in on Angati and bite and claw her - she fends off their attacks.

OOC: Hmm. They need a nat 20 to hit her!

The remaining savage pirate is unsuccessful in attacking Kibeti.

OOC: Ye gawds! He also needs a nat 20!


You are already mowing us, no need to bicker about it :P

I know you like it though... so I understand.

As for Alohan's indignity... well.. think about throwing in a beautiful lady that finds him there in hiding... If no one see's him.. its just half indignity... and the beasts are pretty scary anyways :)

This message was last edited by the player at 06:51, Thu 09 June 2016.

Celene
 player, 902 posts
 Sorcerer 3 / Cleric 1
Thu 9 Jun 2016
at 11:50
 msg #954
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Angati:
and the breasts are pretty scary anyways :)


Fixed that for you.
Dungeon Master
 GM, 1822 posts
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 DM
Thu 9 Jun 2016
at 12:06
 msg #955
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Heh heh. Snigger.
Angati
 PC, 586 posts
 Oracle 4
Thu 9 Jun 2016
at 20:00
 msg #956
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
In reply to Celene (msg # 954):

LoL   that must be my subconscious mind playing there :)
Dungeon Master
 GM, 1827 posts
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Fri 10 Jun 2016
at 19:41
 msg #957
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
Angati:
@Alohan @GM: if aloha wants and Angati sees him, maybe he can get a Misfortune to reroll that save.


Looks like Ron wants to save that MF roll. It is only being frightened for a couple of rounds.
Dungeon Master
 GM, 1828 posts
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Fri 10 Jun 2016
at 19:42
 msg #958
Re: Change in Posting Frequency
See you in the new OOC thread.
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