Aww, come on, he's in the thick of it now anyway - no matter if he grapples or blows? Would it?

By the way, Alohan, why did you move closer to the zombies? You could avoid them at F5 but moved the other way to H5... Oh, are you making a flank with Logan?

I'm not sure, but have you calculated in the +4 armor bonus to Alohans AC? It seems only one higher than during our last battle (15->16)?

And yes, there seems to be a misunderstanding about the DR/silver :-(. I guess it comes from the huecuva stat info we got earlier. Those stats are for a GENERIC huecuva I gather. A knowledge roll only gives knowledge of a general 'template' of creature, not a specific one. What we're fighting is our GM's own devious clerically gifted (at least three levels) huecuva, with at least 3d8 more hp, and it apparently has DR10/silver, not DR5... Impossible to get through with those fists :-(

Crap I got confused with the normal Huecuva vs turbo charged. But yea, I attacked the huecuva assuming it was DR/5. If it is DR/10, I have no chance of dealing any damage to it. My best bet is to start hacking up zombies.

Which is what ill start to do.

Damn! No, it is me who is confused. It is only DR5/magic or silver. How did I mess that up so bad?!

When I turbo charged him I didn't mess with the DR - that would have been too cruel. No, I was just wrong wrong wrong. He only has DR5/silver or magic.

OK, I am trying to work out Logan's modifiers for his next attack to help John out (and also in case I need to roll for him tonight).

So Logan currently has:

+2 from blessing of the faithful assuming he uses that on the attack roll
+1 from guidance that was last round
+2 from flank attack assuming he gets into F7 and is opposite Alohan. This will require him to get into the water which is difficult terrain.
+1 MW silver dagger
+4 from dex (combat finesse)
+1 BAB

=+10 in total. Impressive.

Too cruel for you? Pftt!

Yep, impressive! Remembet his AoO.

Wait, blessing of the faithful was last round, right? But it was still effective when he makes the AoO.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:42, Tue 06 Oct 2015.

I did use Blessing of the Faithful to boost my attack last round.

I'm going along based on the maps position of the huecuva. You wrote he moved a few steps, but that would've given Logan and Alohan AoO, so I guess he thought better of it - or did it get caught by the entangle before it moved? Awesome spell!!

And awesome hit, Logan - right back at him! BTW, you still cite  quidance in your buff, it's long gone, sorry (one roll only, within one minute)...

Well, Kassius, waiting for a +2 to hit, coupled with a -4 dex on the entangled huecuva might have paid off (?). Patience... ;-) Ok, pretty hard to know it's coming :-), but it's there for your next shot!

It does have -4 dex now, right?

Fire away!

The entangle penalty plus divine vessel bonus might have made the first attack hit, but I forgot/didn't have them when I rolled, and the re-roll will miss even with the bonus.. I'll have the bonus for next round instead. Maybe I can buff my handle animal check and actually get Kibeti to help us kill some zombies!

That's certainly an option! What do you need to succeed in that, anyway? It's pretty hard, isn't it?

Ah, good catch.  I didn't include guidance in my attack roll, but I forgot to erase it from my active effects there.

Ah, so you knew it was gone, good.

It's actually hard to know how much I should write reminders etc. on - because i don't know how much you know and remember of the rules, buffs and so on. E.g. some of the cleric abilities are domain/archetype dependant - I don't expect you to know these ablities! But do you? And if you don't, how often should i 'recap' them?

btw, Kassius, don't worry, Celene will move away next round to give you a shot - if you give her time to do it :-)

It's DC 25. I get a +4 for Kibeti being my companion, but it's still a charisma based skill, so my base is only +3. There's also an additional -2 if Kibeti's been injured.

Ugh! But at least it's a move action I now see, so it doesn't take away your bow attack.


Well, as it's now entangled, it's at -4 dex, meaning -2 to AC. So you might very well HIT IT WITH A ROLL OF FOUR! Geeeez :-) But then again, you just exactly don't hit hard enough to damage... that's cruel, i'll give you that! :-)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:42, Wed 07 Oct 2015.

Rules question: do I understand correctly that even though entangled in the roots, you can make a move of 5 feet? But is that a normal move action or does it take a full-round action (that last as I understand it)?

Ok, so that was a square hit, although about the most pitiful damage I could do with the spell... only 6hp.... still... a hit is a hit. *sigh*

Next round I am wondering whether to jump strait to the priest and start casting cause light wounds or something of the sorts....

By the way DM, you said that saving the channel of the huecuva made me loose 2hp, but you didnt update in your sheet, so I am not sure if it was right and you just forgot to update or what.

Cheers

Opps, I forgot to move him on the GIMP map. Damn. OK, play as per the map.



Yes it does (which translates to -2 AC), as do all the entangled zombies as well.



Actually, the entangled conditions aren't that bad, have a look:

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamema...itions#TOC-Entangled

-> Half speed
-> -2 on attack rolls
-> -4 to dex
-> conc check to cast a spell

The killer is that the whole entangled area of effect is also difficult terrain. And zombies are normally slow as well. They normally move 4 squares but when they are entangled and in the spell area they only move 1!

The reason why the huecuva is provoking an AoO is because:



If you want to move out of a threatened square there are only two choices: The 5-foot step (and he can't do that) or the withdraw action.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamema.../combat#TOC-Withdraw

But that is a full round action, and then he wouldn't be allowed to channel energy or do other mischief.

In summary, yes, entangle is a great spell. :D

PS: I have been forgetting the -2 to attack rolls on the entangled zombies when trying to grapple. I'll remember from now on.

Ok, cool, I just wasn't sure if the root (form trees and other plants I guess) would anchor the entangled.


If so, it perhaps counted as 'hampered movement', hence my question.



But i'd forgotten to 'cumulate' the ½ move from entangled and the increased movement cost in difficult terrain!!

Yikes! Logan better not get entangled: -4 dex AND -2 to attack! :-( Hadn't thought of that!
This message was last edited by the player at 08:19, Wed 07 Oct 2015.

Logan's reflex save is so high that he should be ok.

But you've now hit 2 out of 3 attacks, with a total of 15 damage to it. That's pretty good for a caster class, I'd say?

Btw, remember you're at -4 for firing into melee (it's in close with Logan and Alohan), but not in cover (that's another 4 modifier, but to his AC, right?). You hit is still solid i think!

Sure do (go close with CLW), if you want, but please wait until Kassius and perhaps Celene have fired, else it will surely be in cover.

The other -2 hp were healed by Celenes channeling, so Angati is still fresh :-)

In reply to Celene (msg # 154):

In regards to the 4 pts of damage the huecuva did via channeling... yes, those who saved and only took 2 pts were then healed back up by Celene's 2hp channelling heal.

@Celene
Thanks.

I updated to G3.

Ill see what to do then, after everyone does their thing this roudn.

Yes, Angati's hit is good even with the -4 for firing into melee.

Ok? Then you've seemed to miss her damage to the huecuva, no?

Question about Kibeti:
You rolled that he should attack the zombie. Is that just an AoO and I still need to try and handle animal to get him to full attack, or will he now continue to attack that zombie? Also, if he takes out the zombie, will you roll again, or will he continue to attack?