^ This is an out of character thread aswell!

Just to explain about Blace, she is a shade. That is an undead creature, bascially a shadow. They are a playable race in 4th edition. So she could be stated out as an lly NPC for all you know. Just, also, she's clearly had to have gone through bad stuff to come back. Who knows how that affects a person...


The Teachers are very unlikely to be behind Blace's actions. Clearly the phystal was acting for their interests, and hadn't been able to. That implies Blace was successfully blocking those efforts, since Celindara was unaware of them. So the only way Blace could be allied with the teachers would be if she was hoping to supplant the phystal and make him look bad. More likely she is being truthful there.

Of course, she's also shown she was trying to use Goodwin then snapped him to kill him off, so there's definitely a ruthless streak in her plans. Just as she's clearly not trusting anyone, as it seems very likely she has set everyone to being against everyone else rather than encouraging them to talk. Perhaps she doens't trust anyone, perhaps she wants power for herself... again, who really knows :)

Hmm, not too sure.
Her words are clearly an attempt to Intimidate (help us or get out of our way, with "get blasted into a smouldering hole in the ground" as an obviously implied third option).

Still, Meri's Diplomacy is actually somehow higher than her Intimidation.  So it would probably be better to roll that one instead.
(Both skills are very low however, so may fail spectacularly due to Meri's lack of judgement in knowing how to safely operate those strange non-metallic "people" things she keeps finding everywhere!)

Any tactical suggestions from Nym's player on this one? :)

(Also, sorry, that went in the wrong thread at first!)

Always go with the RP rather than the number crunching when in doubt. It's as much the story going your way or mine than pass / fail.

Also, I probably wasn't clear - you can have Meri back up Nym's words and then make a diplomacy check, or can go ahead and just roll an Intimidate check because of her previous words.

Yeah ok.  Intimidate: 15 (1 + 14) - ooo, ok :)

Was tempted to roll Diplomacy too, just to see if I'd pull out a 20.  But decided to save that in case it came to a fight anyway ;)

In the RP side of things, Meri was technically attempting Diplomacy through Intimidation, being a defiant little bad-ass with no fear of dying (since she believes she already died once and isn't really afraid of doing it again).
She was pointing out that she was out to destroy the Blight and wasn't really looking to fight Blace.  But also hinting that if Blace wanted to try to stop her, she'd have trouble on her hands.

Not sure if Blace really knows just how potentially powerful the two of us are together.
I'm assuming she already knows everything Celindara can do, and most likely has some sort of defences in place against her.
But unless Farren told her everything he saw us use against the Phystal, and Allyn's rant about us included plenty of tactical details, she's probably not 100% sure what tricks we have up our collective sleeves. :)

Well, I'm sure they all know we are at least reasonably capable of kicking arse, since they'll have heard Allyn's story (though whether she exaggerated or otherwise altered any details I suppose we have no way of knowing at this point) and of course Farren saw us wrecking the Phystal, an incident which ended with Nym's epic gigantic big-ball-o'-fiery-fun, which, even though it technically missed (as in, I rolled a miss) was still enough to turn the guy to ashes. I suppose if I'd've hit there wouldn't have been a boat left either :D.

So unless these guys are blind or highly forgetful or something, they should at least know that Nym specialises pretty well in blasting the utter crap out of anything that she has enough of a problem with, even if she doesn't seem to realise it herself...though Blace seems to think she's lying or something when she acts like she doesn't remember anyone dying during fights. Understandable, I suppose, but still wrong ;).

If you'd hit with that there probably wouldn't have been much of the immediate surrounding scenery left either! :)  hehe.
Although I think the forest there was magically protected in some way, likely by Celindara.  Since Meri's lightning blasts didn't seem to damage anything.

Yeah, or maybe Nym's magic only hurts stuff that she wants to hurt or something :D. It will be fun blowing even more shit up in the future though, as we get to higher levels and I get even more ways to, well, blow shit up :D.

I mean mechanically many of your powers only hurt the target, and I presumed you didn't want to hurt the forest and piss off Celindara, so I did have it not harmed by most of your magic. Didn't want you to feel like you had to hold back during the epic confrontation,.

Narratively, yeah, I might have represented that with a far more robust forest than normal. Seems reasonable, given the history of the place!

Hmm, I'm starting to get a nasty feeling that Blace and Co. are way above our level...  (O.o)'

You can always metagame that I'll never try to put you in a completely unwinnable situation. If you're under levelled, then it will never be fatal or there will be some way to talk your way out of it.

The fact that Alynn wants to kill you on sight, Blace snapped Goodwin in half without much thought, and Farren tore the throat out of that fey guy totally means they will try to kill you, so therefore they must be around about your level. Ish. Probably.


So it's all good! Your character might die which must mean it's kinda maybe an almost fair fight probably ish sorta! Woohoo! Go Team Magic Ugly Death!

Just got the feeling you were trying to nudge us towards a way of avoiding the fight there, hehe :)

Fighting leads to XP, XP leads to levlling up, and levelling up leads to you having even more ways to blow up mah poor NPCs :(

So no, not trying to disuade you from combat at all :D

Sort of like "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering"? :)

Much anger I sense in Meri...