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DM
 GM, 3835 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 11:34
OOC 3
I think we need a new thread ....
DM
 GM, 3836 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 12:38
OOC 3
So how does this read  ...  it sets out the terms of the 'peace' ...



The Regent’s Charter.

Duke Noleski Surtova of Port Ice will act as the Regent of Brevoy.  The Brevoy Council of Peers will consist of the Dukes of Greyhaven, Silverhall, Winterbreak, Eagle’s Roost and Stoneclimb.
  • The Regent will not collect taxes from the other noble houses or independent cities, he will derive his income from the lands surrounding New Stetven.
  • No Noble, Viscount, Governor or Lord Mayor shall be removed from their holdings, without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • No Noble, Viscount, Governor or Lord Mayor shall be punished for their part in the ‘so called’ civil war.  Those disagreements have been resolved by this charter.
  • The follow have been confirmed.
  •   - - Lady Jamandi Aldori is awarded the dormant title of Count of Rostland, and the commensurate lands.  These will be held in perpetuity.
  •   - - Lord Henry leMaistre becomes Baron Gates, based on his holdings at Newgate, Eastgate and Westgate, in the province of Midmarch.  These lands and titles to be held in perpetuity.
  •   - - Baroness Rogarvia-Green becomes Viscount Skywatch.
  •   - - Baron Gates becomes Viscount Midmarch.
  •   - - Restov is confirmed as an Independent City
  •   - - Tusk is awarded the status of Independent City.
  • A new noble condition, Marcher Lord, is created. As with other nobles, Marcher Lords may not be taxed by the Regent, nor can their holdings be taken from them, without express permission from the Council of Peers.
  • All Viscounts, Governors and Lord Mayors will be required to encourage and support the establishment of Marcher Lordships around the borders of Brevoy.





Unless you can see any flaws, that will be the document that underpins all the other grants ....

This message was last edited by the GM at 13:36, Thu 16 July 2020.

Cass Mordane
 Player, 596 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 13:20
OOC 3
I think that covers the original mandates.
DM
 GM, 3837 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 18:37
OOC 3
And the Tusk Charter



The Tusk Charter
From this day forth Tusk is declared to be an Independent City, within the borders of Midmarch.  It will be responsible for managing its internal affairs, electing its own officers and defending itself and its lands.  It will have no master except for the Regent of Brevoy.
  • The Regent may not tax the independent city of Tusk.
  • The Regent may not remove the Lord Mayor of Tusk from office, without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The City of Tusk will be granted ownership of The Tusk Keep.
  • The City of Tusk will be granted ownership of the land that surrounds it, even if that land was developed under the rule of the Governor of Midmarch.  (Silverton)
  • The City of Tusk must develop defences for both itself and the  new land that it owns.
  • The City of Tusk required to encourage and support the establishment of Marcher Lordships around the borders of Brevoy.




And thoughts on this one?
Adoven
 Player, 724 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 20:03
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As long as economic sources are not Nationalized. Yitis and Jovvox still own properties and Economy sources within Tusk.
DM
 GM, 3838 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 20:09
Re: OOC 3
Adoven:
As long as economic sources are not Nationalized. Yitis and Jovvox still own properties and Economy sources within Tusk.


I would hope that Tusk council don't consider anything like that :)
Kendrick Winters
 player, 480 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:09
Re: OOC 3
Oh... now Tusk needs a standing army :)
Sorry all of these independent groups doesn't make an army... it makes a logistical mess ;)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 597 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:14
Re: OOC 3
What if vested interests started donating BP to a centralized military college? Perhaps the one in which Kendrick sets up his Marchdom. That along with any fortifications that he builds on his own could provide for a strong defense reserve.

This message was last edited by the player at 22:21, Thu 16 July 2020.

DM
 GM, 3839 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:19
Re: OOC 3
With Henry handing over the Keep -  Tusk will have 16 military units

Which compares quite well with Viscount Henry's 8 units.

Henry has a few more, personal troops.  Well, quite a few more actually - but even his personal House Guard of  13 units is smaller than Tusk's army  :)

Mind you, Tusk doesn't have any Marine forces ....
Cass Mordane
 Player, 598 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:28
Re: OOC 3
And should  Silverton develop a sister city mainly for halflings called Halfton?
Get it?
Half Ton!
Oh I am so brilliant.

This message was last edited by the player at 22:28, Thu 16 July 2020.

Kiera
 player, 223 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:37
Re: OOC 3
It might be wise to invest at least a little in some naval forces for the lake, just in case.  I mean, better safe than sorry.
Adoven
 Player, 725 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 23:41
Re: OOC 3
I've got the large boatyard to build them with. And I'm building a Military College in Tusk this Campaign Round.
Kiera
 player, 224 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 23:49
Re: OOC 3
Well, I'll keep throwing my points to economy and stuff to help keep it balanced out, then.  Guess you guys keep the population safe, some of us keep the population happy and the coin rolling in. :P
DM
 GM, 3840 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 08:45
Re: OOC 3
OK.  A Viscount's Patent.  I have  ordered this one in two blocks -  the first is generic and applies to all Viscounts - the second block contains specific directions for that particular Viscount.

I will probably reorganise the Tusk Charter in the same way.



Viscount Patent (Midmarch)

Henry leMaistre is, henceforth, granted the title of Viscount Midmarch, and the right to administer the Province of Midmarch under the laws of Brevoy.
  • The Regent may not tax the province.
  • The Regent may not remove the Viscount from office, without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The terms of this patent may not be changed without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The Viscount is required to encourage and support the development of Marcher Lordships in the undeveloped and unclaimed areas close to the province

  • The Viscount is required to build a line of fortifications on Brevoy’s Southern Border.
  • The Province may expand to the west, as far as the East Sellen River.
  • The Province may not expand to the south, except to consolidate its current borders.
  • The City of Tusk is removed from provincial administration and declared an Independent City.
  • The Viscount is required to relinquish control of provincial resources that fall outside his boundaries.  Specifically the Keep at Tusk and roads that now fall in Tusk’s jurisdiction.



    Thoughts on this one ?

Cass Mordane
 Player, 599 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 09:51
Re: OOC 3
Looks pretty solid.
DM
 GM, 3841 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 10:10
Re: OOC 3
Which all leads to something like this as a March-0Lord Patent.




March-Lord Patent (Generic)

Xxxxx  Xxxxxx is, henceforth, granted the title of March-Lord, and the right to administer the holdings of Xxxxx under the laws of Brevoy.
  • The Regent may not tax the holding.
  • The Regent may not remove the March-Lord from office, without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The terms of this patent may not be changed without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The March-Lord is required to keep their holdings clear of  bandits, brigands, pirates, hostile tribes or any other serious risk to life and property.
  • The March-Lord is required to report illegal activity or military incursion to the nearest senior holding – be it that of a Duke, Count, Viscount, Governor or Independent City.

Cass Mordane
 Player, 600 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 10:32
Re: OOC 3
I was wondering what the title might entail. What about responsibility to field troops when called upon?
Adoven
 Player, 726 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 10:50
Re: OOC 3
Since the March Lords are protecting land OUTSIDE the boundaries of Midmarch, in what way does the Council of Peers have any say in whether a March Lord can hold office, UNLESS the March Lords are REPRESENTED with a seat at the Council of Peers?
Kiera
 player, 225 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:04
Re: OOC 3
Because it's a way for them to go grab anything they might want to get their grubby little hands on to support their Houses over any one else, I imagine.  We find something valuable and news makes it back, I imagine we'll be out on our ears.

It's also a way for the Council to stick it to Henry, much like they're sticking it to the Aldori- they could snap up every single March Lord office and there wouldn't be anything we could do to stop them- and he wouldn't have any standing to fight for us.
Adoven
 Player, 727 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:12
Re: OOC 3
Perhaps if we demanded a seat at the Council. Give it to my soon-to-be wife, the Lady Viktoria d'Lodkova? Her family connections would give us a stronger voice on the Council.
DM
 GM, 3842 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:20
Re: OOC 3
Adoven:
Since the March Lords are protecting land OUTSIDE the boundaries of Midmarch, in what way does the Council of Peers have any say in whether a March Lord can hold office, UNLESS the March Lords are REPRESENTED with a seat at the Council of Peers?



*grin*  You say it is outside their boundaries.  They say it is inside.

They have a bigger stick than you do.  And you expect to take resources from inside Brevoy to build your Lordship  :)

I suspect that DEMANDING anything would be a very quick way to piss off ALL the noble houses very quickly.  It would be interesting to see Surtova, Lebeda, Garess, Orlovsky, Lodkova, and Medveyed massing on Midmarches Northern Borders.

The Aldori may not join them and choose to  stay at home.  In the same way as Midmarch did when the Aldori asked for help.  :)

Welcome to Politics  :)

If you don't like the terms, you don't have to start a Marcher holding :)
Adoven
 Player, 728 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:30
Re: OOC 3
Then I shall EARN us a spot on the Council by becoming a Merchant Prince.
Kiera
 player, 226 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:40
Re: OOC 3
In the end, they're using us to set up the southern border on our gold and effort so they can yank it away in the future for doling out to supporters/family members they need to send away/just because they feel like it.  They get infrastructure without having to pay for it, we get rear-ended grande style because we're not them.

Like the GM said, welcome to politics when you're the little guy/girl.  They let us play around until we find something they want or get everything set up- at which point they come over, kick our sand castles down, and plop in whatever imbecile of a family member needs or is loudly throwing a tantrum for a position of some import somewhere.

You want your little corner to remain yours?  Get good at ducking the notice of the noble families and hope someone else pisses them off/interests them a lot more than your little corner of Golarion.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 601 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:58
Re: OOC 3
I see nothing wrong with “inquiring” about our representative on the Council of Peers. Or given that all current members are at work on loftier matters that we could suggest that Lady Viktoria d'Lodkova be invited to join the Council for that distinct purpose.

Nor do I see anything wrong with the establishment of another council, expressly for the communication and facilitation of unified goals of the “Marcher Lords” or that no mention that such a council exists outside the members of said council. We won’t bother to worry Henry with such things. Ever more busy by the day that poor man. I shan’t be surprised that he doesn’t try a cloning spell to allow himself a brief respite now and then.

We have been charged with defending “our” lands by the establishment of military defenses for just that purpose. I propose that we make that a priority. And it would be less than conscientious of us to slow in our commitment until we have developed no less than double the forces of the entirety of all other Brevic forces not under our jurisdiction.

It would then be interesting to have the Peerage Council determine one of our fellow Marcher Lords should be removed of their position when all we other Marcher Lords disagree. Would they try to have them physically removed? A risky venture should they be only able to muster half of our forces in total. And if those aforementioned Aldori did indeed choose to stay home?

As our good friend Henry has taught us:

Welcome to Politics. :)

This message was last edited by the player at 12:00, Fri 17 July 2020.

~Magatha Primrose
 NPC e, 16 posts
 Mordanian
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 12:05
Re: OOC 3
Council of
Internal
Affairs
DM
 GM, 3843 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 12:11
Re: OOC 3
As Cass points out, if somewhat obliquely,  putting strong military defences along a border is a double-edged sword.

It can be used to stop the enemy invading Brevoy - But it might also be used to influence Brevoy.

However, you should note that when Henry, and Midmarch, appeared to be getting as powerful as one of the great noble families - things changed.  Technically nothing has been taken from Henry (on a Personal or Family level)  he has even been promoted to a higher ranking, more influential position.

However, his overall influence in Brevoy has been reduced.

As Kiera implied  'Softly, softly, catchee monkey'
Cass Mordane
 Player, 602 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 12:16
Re: OOC 3
I was wondering if there might be an update in the influence chart. Not that I am trying to rush you. Just curious as to how much perceived difference there actually is with this new structure.
DM
 GM, 3844 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 12:29
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
I was wondering if there might be an update in the influence chart.


Eventually  ......  As you guessed,   I have a lot to do before the next campaign round and only about 5 months to do it .....  :)
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 980 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 12:33
Re: OOC 3
Reading the discussion above I can't help thinking perhaps there needs to be something in the Kingdom building rules about the balance required between Economy / Stability / Loyalty and Defence. Particularly whether there should be a penalty if there is too much or too little Defence?

I mean, if 50% of the workforce is conscripted into the militia and the other half is either working overtime just to feed them or taxed to the hilt to support them, you will soon be hearing cries of "The peasants are revolting, M'Lord!"  ;o)
Kiera
 player, 227 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 13:33
Re: OOC 3
Here's the thing:

Henry was sent to the Stolen Lands to get rid of the Stag Lord and to occupy the area for Brevoy.  Obviously, he did that.  But I doubt that the Houses ever believed he was going to be this successful or this powerful- and then we went and waggled out tails at both sides when the war broke out, and that scared the Houses something fierce- Midmarch was getting to be too powerful, too influential- and if there's anything old, ancient structures of political power absolutely loathe, it's a new kid on the block with growing popularity that could start chipping away at their own power base.

So they neutered Henry's power in Midmarch and the Aldori's in Restov, and made it look like they were honoring and praising the both of them when in reality, they were cutting away their power bases in Restov and Tusk- and limiting his borders and tempting us away from him with offers of our own little slices of property and holdings so they can treat with us more directly without having to go through Henry and his staff... to feel us out as individuals instead of as one big group- because saddling us with our own little territories to worry about means we'll be busy and unable to help Henry if they decide to tighten the screws on him, should he get ornery in their eyes again.

Not to mention, if we make too much noise or problems, what's to say they won't swoop in and boot us out of our Marcher territories if we develop it enough or find something they find interesting, like gold or magic or whatever?

It's okay if we go out and get land- but we've got to be careful we don't make too much noise doing so for now...
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 981 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 13:59
Re: OOC 3
Would you say that glass in your hand is half full or half empty, Kiera? It looks half full to me.

The creation of the position of Marcher Lord now offers a new incentive and reward for people brave and ambitious enough to build themselves a stronghold along the southern border of Brevoy, strengthening that southern border in the process. I would be very surprised if any Marcher Lords loyal to the nation of Brevoy (rather than those who draw attention by declaring their loyalty specifically to the Regent or the Aldori, for example) were to be arbitrarily displaced in future by the Council of Peers. It is the rotten apples that get thrown away, not the good ones.
Kiera
 player, 228 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 14:12
Re: OOC 3
Hey, I'm suspicious of everything- you ought to see me at Costco around the free sample stations, or a used car lot! :P

I guess it depends on how you view it, I suppose- though at the moment, we're not exactly their favorite of favoritest people, so I'm just always looking for the strings attached to any offer they make to us.  A half-full glass is also a half-empty glass, after all.

So you guys can go ahead and indulge and get your Marcher on- I might, in a bit if there's still land available, but right now, would you think Kiera would be any good at politics, going around half-pickled like she usually does and speaking her mind with no filter?

Besides- everyone opening their own settlements allows me the chance to wheel and deal and open up businesses in said settlements and towns- making a network of places to crash and bolt if I'm in town!  Having a BP or two to kick around and patch things up with would also be a great thing to have, hehe, and a reason to travel and carry things like messages and other things on he between territories, well... I think that might be kind of helpful. :P
Adoven
 Player, 729 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 14:17
Re: OOC 3
Half-pickled? You'd be perfect running one of my Holy Houses dedicated to Cayden.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 603 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 17:37
Re: OOC 3
Kiera:
Besides- everyone opening their own settlements allows me the chance to wheel and deal and open up businesses in said settlements and towns- making a network of places to crash and bolt if I'm in town!  Having a BP or two to kick around and patch things up with would also be a great thing to have, hehe, and a reason to travel and carry things like messages and other things on he between territories, well... I think that might be kind of helpful. :P


That is a cool way to role play it.

And Cass is in agreement about not making the wrong noises were the overlords can hear. In fact, maybe we need to make a few of the right noises so that they may hear that instead. Such as holding a feast day to celebrate Tusk as a free city. Maybe it could be the annual Independence Day celebration. Not a full blown RP event, just something for the books. Henry might want to do the same to celebrate his Barony.
DM
 GM, 3845 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 08:23
Re: OOC 3
I am will be working on Patents and Charters over the next few days - and you can track progress here.  http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....land:general:patents

I will rework  the draft charters, that I put up for discussion, slightly to try and get a more consistent structure and incorporate Cass's point about 'Defence of the Realm' - although there won't be any  huge changes to what was published.

Hopefully, when this little project is finished, it will give us a clear structure of Nobility (Etc) to work towards.

This message was last edited by the GM at 08:23, Sat 18 July 2020.

Kiera
 player, 229 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 08:52
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
Kiera:
Besides- everyone opening their own settlements allows me the chance to wheel and deal and open up businesses in said settlements and towns- making a network of places to crash and bolt if I'm in town!  Having a BP or two to kick around and patch things up with would also be a great thing to have, hehe, and a reason to travel and carry things like messages and other things on he between territories, well... I think that might be kind of helpful. :P


That is a cool way to role play it.

And Cass is in agreement about not making the wrong noises were the overlords can hear. In fact, maybe we need to make a few of the right noises so that they may hear that instead. Such as holding a feast day to celebrate Tusk as a free city. Maybe it could be the annual Independence Day celebration. Not a full blown RP event, just something for the books. Henry might want to do the same to celebrate his Barony.


Well, I think of it this way:

When you guys create your Marcher territories, I imagine you’re going to get deluged with political stuff- offers of alliances, people seeking dirt or leverage on your allies, etc.- and having an unofficial way to get messages and warnings to each other outside of official mail, or someone to go in and poke around in a town where you can’t have an official presence... and where else are people going to talk besides while they shoot the crap over a cold beer or to impress a handsome man or beautiful woman they might have paid for time with? One of Henry’s people would draw suspicion, one of your own would, as well. But the woman who owns the local roadhouse or bar or brothel, who might be seeing some barrels of booze or escorting new talent to somewhere new? Who’d want to be known as the bunch who stopped the beer from getting to thirsty customers, especially in towns with no brewery or winery nearby? She has a legitimate reason to travel everywhere.

I might be a constant stopper at Caydenite religious houses- I don’t mind them one bit- but he’s not really for me.  But if you wanted to send some of them by on occasion, they wouldn’t get tossed out. :)

This message was last edited by the player at 08:57, Sat 18 July 2020.

DM
 GM, 3850 posts
Mon 20 Jul 2020
at 08:16
Re: OOC 3
City  (ie Tusk) and March-Hold charters have now been added.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....#settlement_charters
Cass Mordane
 Player, 604 posts
 Opportunist
Mon 20 Jul 2020
at 09:24
Re: OOC 3
Great work as ever, boss.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 983 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Mon 20 Jul 2020
at 12:04
Re: OOC 3
Mmmm ... 7 hex donut!

Everyone is going to want one. Might be time to invent a new spell ... Know recipe!  ;o)

But seriously, the charters look good to me.
DM
 GM, 3851 posts
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 09:04
Re: OOC 3
I have been doing more work and more thinking about Patents and Charters.

I have been asked a couple of times if a PC can build a large estate/holding  in a way that other PCs could pledge 'allegiance' to  - in other words, a mini-Midmarch. So far we haven't had a specific guidance for that, so I would have been making stuff as I went along, and then playing catchup with the rules - just life I have been with the March-Lord holdings. :)Considering how that has put the Aristocracy/Noble system 'front and centre' for the time being, I thought I would address that  now.

As I look at the charters and patents -  it is becoming clear that Governors, Lord-Mayors and Barons are all regional leaders who should  have a (roughly) equally influence, rights and responsibilities.  And I have decided to give all three the right to create Lairds and Lords-Dominus without recourse to the Council of Peers.
  • Laird -  'owns' either a hex or a Hamlet that they are hereditary 'lords' of.  Both Safiya and Marik is laird of two settlements in Midmarch.  Technically Cass is Laird  of Silverton  AND Lord Mayor of Tusk.   This is a very minor position in the Aristocracy and doesn't really get ant extra influence.
  • Lord-Dominus - doesn't need to be a landowner, but promises support to their 'overlord'.   Cyrus (Ringbridge) is an example of this.  Adoven with 5 defence points to pledge (Manor House, Sword School, Military College) will also be a Lord-Dominus.


Examples

Character1 wants to build an independent stronghold - away from Henry's (or anyone else's immediate control) They can follow this route ..
  1. Set up a march-Hold.  This will allow them to appoint Lairds ...
  2. Build 5 points of defence - apply to the council for Lord-Dominus rank
  3. Increase defence to 10 BP - apply to the council for lordship
  4. Increase defence to 15 BP - apply to the council for Barony
  5. Promote Lairds to Lords-Dominus etc ...


Character2 wants to build a more 'traditional' barony.  They can follow this route ...
  1. Get a hex from Henry -  This will allow them to appoint Lairds ...
  2. Build 5 points of defence - apply to Henry for Lord-Dominus rank
  3. Increase defence to 10 BP - ask Henry to apply to the council for lordship
  4. Increase defence to 15 BP - ask Henry to apply to the council for Barony
  5. Promote Lairds to Lords-Dominus etc ...


Alternately -  build 'New Tusk' somewhere and get yourself appointed as Lord mayor.

This message was last edited by the GM at 09:18, Tue 21 July 2020.

DM
 GM, 3852 posts
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 09:18
Re: OOC 3
I have aloso editted the 'Inflence in brevoy' page

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....rt#ranking_of_nobles

That uses a 'finger in the air'  calculation, based on Recent events.  I'll review it properly later  :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 606 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 09:21
Re: OOC 3
What about controlling more than one adjacent hex?
DM
 GM, 3853 posts
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 09:30
Re: OOC 3
Andalon pointed out that Def Points are not part of the balance mechanism for settlements -  but now Def Points are more relevant to settlement build.

So  I am planning to add a stipulation that Def Points must always be the lowest of Econ, Loy, Stab and Def.

Although it will be written as Def must be lower than Econ, Loy, or Stab.

Econ 4, Loy 5, or Stab 3.  Def 2 = OK

Econ 4, Loy 5, or Stab 3.  Def 3 = not OK

This message was last edited by the GM at 10:00, Tue 21 July 2020.

DM
 GM, 3854 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 07:34
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
What about controlling more than one adjacent hex?



If they are contiguous,  it just expands as in Ringbridge, Tatzleford or Safiya's Holdings.  If they are spread out, (Like Henry and Marik) - well we will cross that bridge when we come to it - But I can't see a problem unless it is a blatant land grab :)



BTW -  I have completed all the work I intend to do on Charters and patents -  Unless someone finds an issue with them.

I have used Henry, Marik, Cyrus, Zelona, Adoven and Andalon as examples ... :P
DM
 GM, 3855 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 08:08
Re: OOC 3
My next mini-project is to review the costs of building developments.  Recently I have noticed an anomaly with the cost of buildings that create magic items, that needs to be corrected.  There has always been a price structure, so that there is no great advantage in one type of building / economy over another, but I haven't applied it consistently - so this seems like a good time to do this.

The base cost structure to build will be :-

+1 Loy0.5bp
+1 Stab0.5bp
+1 Econ1bp
+1 Def1bp
Magic Item2bp
  
3* Building0.5 bp
4* Building1bp
5* Building3bp
6* Building5bp
7* Building8bp

Modified

This message was last edited by the GM at 09:39, Wed 22 July 2020.

Adoven
 Player, 732 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 08:13
Re: OOC 3
So a Luxury Store now costs 4.5 bp?
0.5 bp for ***
2 bp for +2 Econ
2 bp for Minor: 1?
DM
 GM, 3856 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 08:19
Re: OOC 3
It will do, yes.  It doesn't affect any existing developments, but will  be the case from the next campaign round.
Adoven
 Player, 733 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 08:21
Re: OOC 3
Well enough. Making magic items will be my ticket to opening shops in Mivon and Restov.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 607 posts
 Opportunist
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 08:22
Re: OOC 3
So I could request building that is 4 loyalty only and pay 2 BP? Call it a secret clubhouse maybe. This could help streamline things.
DM
 GM, 3857 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 08:38
Re: OOC 3
You could request it -  but I would nix that particular  concept and point you towards the Guilds section  :)

However, if you come up with new 'loyalty' buildings that match the themes used for Loyalty, I will happily add them  to the lists.  The lists have never been much more that guidelines anyway.  As soon as anyone has given me a legit example, I have added it or developed a whole new suite of developments  (Like when Rose asked about magic shops)

I would be delighted to have some more examples of Loy / Stab buildings -  I  used up all of my ideas some time ago, and I am waiting for new inspiration to hit me ....
Cass Mordane
 Player, 608 posts
 Opportunist
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 08:49
Re: OOC 3
It is a hard concept to work with considering it kind of relies on a sense of togetherness. Sports fan are loyal. Who else?
DM
 GM, 3858 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 09:10
Re: OOC 3
Yep  :)

Loyalty is all about -  Why do I want to live in this village/town/city/country, rather than move to that village/././country over there.

Things like ...

"Hey, I can get a wash in the public bathhouse for a few coppers ..."
"We got a dump.  A special place to leave our rubbish and it gets cleared! The town smells a lot fresher now."

Stability is all about feeling safe and protected - from your neighbours and outside issues.  Which is why military and law enforcement items get a Stab Boost.

That said, many buildings have a bit of both Loy and Stab

"We got a granary.  Our council built it to see us through if something bad ever affects the crops."

This message was last edited by the GM at 09:11, Wed 22 July 2020.

Safiya Vallani
 player, 322 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 09:15
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Andalon pointed out that Def Points are not part of the balance mechanism for settlements -  but now Def Points are more relevant to settlement build.

So  I am planning to add a stipulation that Def Points must always be the lowest of Econ, Loy, Stab and Def.

Although it will be written as Def must be lower than Econ, Loy, or Stab.

Econ 4, Loy 5, or Stab 3.  Def 2 = OK

Econ 4, Loy 5, or Stab 3.  Def 3 = not OK


Wouldn't this potentially create problems for new characters creating holdings? They need a watchtower to build anything, which costs them 1 BPS and puts them at Def 1. To keep things balanced they now need to have all other stats at 2 or more, which will cost them 4 more BPs (at least). A new character will have a very hard time coming up with that.

Also, would variance affect this condition as well?
DM
 GM, 3859 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 09:27
Re: OOC 3
Good point.  I'll add a caveat that allows one Def point under any circumstances.

Variance won't affect Def.  Apart from the Caveat, it must always be one point lower than the lowest of Econ, Loy and Stab.

TBH, it isn't a problem for most places - The  problem is in Henry's estates -  and that is only because he maxed out defence, because of the potential war.  (Damned idiot DM)
DM
 GM, 3860 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 13:41
Re: OOC 3
Whew!  I have started to realize how much work I have made for myself by splitting  Tusk and Midmarch.  I have been working on the Influence spreadsheet for about four hours now ...  And I have managed the first part of the task.

Fo far, I can tell you that


Both Tusk and Henry are now known across Brevoy.

The most influential people/organisations in Tusk are
  1. Tusk Council
  2. V&A
  3. House leMaistre
  4. Cass
  5. Andalon
  6. Adoven
  7. Pipre
  8. Abbess Beatrix, Borric, Kendrick, Alisa, House Roth & House Yitis just starting to bother the stats.


The most influential people/organisations in Midmarch are
  1. Henry
  2. Ringbridge, V&A, Marik, Safiya, Cass (all about the same)
  3. Borric, Dom, Zelona Abbess Beatrix.just starting to bother the stats.


More to come later ....

This message was last edited by the GM at 13:55, Wed 22 July 2020.

Cass Mordane
 Player, 609 posts
 Opportunist
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 13:49
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Both Tusk and Henry are now known across Brevoy.



Pimp Henry Be Like...

“Say my name, say my name.”
Domitius
 player, 405 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 14:00
Re: OOC 3
I was looking at the rural developments and noticed you can't build a castle, is that right?  They sem to be only available to urban centers that I can see and that doesn't feel right.
DM
 GM, 3861 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 14:10
Re: OOC 3
Pretty much, Dom.  I am not aware of any castles that were built  that didn't have a half-decent settlement around them  (at the time).  However, you can get a Keep into a village -  but it is a bit of a squeeze.

However, a one district town is enough to support a castle.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 984 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 15:11
Re: OOC 3
Let's face it, the Stag Lord's fort (Fort Stag) and the Orcy Ring (ring fort) were basically built as isolated strongholds with no supporting infrastructure or local community, but they relied on banditry to support them. As they were outside of the law, those rules didn't apply to them. Obviously, Midmarch and Tusk wouldn't allow anyone to become a Marcher-Lord by following those examples. Or perhaps they effectively had their 'community' housed within the fort itself, like a walled village?
DM
 GM, 3862 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 15:39
Re: OOC 3
The Staglord's Fort was little more than an outpost, that Henry spent BP on to develop into a Keep. The Orcy Ring was probably closest to a watchtower with a palisade - that got turned into a Fortified Manor - when BP were spent on it.
DM
 GM, 3863 posts
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 11:40
Re: OOC 3
Phew! Just finished with the Influence Spreadsheets.  I must simplify the process!

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....midmarchpeople:start

Think of Green as 'Getting Noticed' and Gold as 'Significant'.  BUT - remember these values are relative.  Tusk's Influence in Restov, for example, is still fairly minor (compared to the leading lights of Restov)  BUT it means they know of you and might listen politely ...

There are 'cusp' scores -  a green Ten (for example) has been rounded down to 10. Non-highlighted Tens have been rounded up to 10.
DM
 GM, 3868 posts
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 08:31
Re: OOC 3
PC update.

Quentin and Dara have just become NPCs.  Their payers haven't been into the game for a couple of months, etc etc.  I think I will rule that the Characters 'fell' for each other while they were out adventuring and have now decided to settle down somewhere in Midmarch.  They will build a business based on their character backgrounds.

Mariam became a full-NPC a little while ago.

El and Pipre  do both speak to me and let me know how things are going - even though they don't get in to post / play.  Those two are on 'hold' -  they will come out of adventuring groups and hang around in group 0 threads.  Their players will still 'own' them, But I  will be NPCing occasionally and managing their resources.

All of which means I am getting close to advertising for a new tranche of Players ...
Cass Mordane
 Player, 612 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 08:39
Re: OOC 3
Maybe offer a bonus to players who agree to play Halflings who have arrived due to the postings Cass put up.
Marceline
 player, 202 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 20:02
Re: OOC 3
It's hurricane season out in my part of the world, and right now it's just wet and windy but it's still early days so if Marcy vanishes for a bit, that'll be why.

If you live out here in the gulf, stay safe and dry!
DM
 GM, 3869 posts
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 21:12
Re: OOC 3
Stay Safe.  We'll still be here when you come back, if you need to go quiet for a while.
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 330 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Tue 28 Jul 2020
at 01:10
Re: OOC 3
Yes, please take care - hope things stay as mild as possible.


Great work on the Nereid, Kiera --  I like that chair with the shawl, especially.   That was a very significant, cool detail to add in.
Marceline
 player, 203 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Tue 28 Jul 2020
at 19:57
Re: OOC 3
So far safe but soggy. Bit of flooding about so it's messing with power and internet. Attempting to catch up on threads and stuff and hope everyone is dryer than I am.
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 439 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Wed 29 Jul 2020
at 14:09
Re: OOC 3
Now that's what I call a truly dedicated gamer !  :>

But seriously, good to hear you're OK - hope things dry out soon.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 618 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 09:51
Re: OOC 3
Have fun in France!
DM
 GM, 3877 posts
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 10:16
Re: OOC 3
We will  :)

If nothing else, there will be plenty of good food and wine and I will come back fatter and jollier than I already am!
Cass Mordane
 Player, 620 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 09:01
Re: OOC 3
How far does Tusk have to go to grow in size?
When it does can I have Senas make me a special deal on a +2 (8002 gp) instead of a +1?
Would Halfling size buildings only cost half as much BP?
What has it got in its pocketses?
What other questions should I be asking?

This message was last edited by the player at 09:01, Fri 31 July 2020.

DM
 GM, 3884 posts
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 09:50
Re: OOC 3
How far does Tusk have to go to grow in size?
It grows every Campaign Round -  and when Tusk fills all of its seven districts -  It will grow to be a large city :)

When it does can I have Senas make me a special deal on a +2 (8002 gp) instead of a +1?
No.  I don't understand the question, but it sounds like I should say no.

Would Halfling size buildings only cost half as much BP?
No

What has it got in its pocketses?
Handses

What other questions should I be asking?
Where can I get dried frog pills?  Or something similar.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 621 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 10:32
Re: OOC 3
The one time (nearly) at cost magic item. Locked at 6000 gp or less. I believe due to Tusk not yet being a large city effecting economic range. I have finally found a nice item for +1, but +2 would be nicer. And more costly.

Dried frog pills? I thought you were hoarding them to preserve your sanity from pesky gamers. :)
Safiya Vallani
 player, 324 posts
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 11:04
Re: OOC 3
DM, I can (hopefully) clarify the limit on crafting. You've set it at 6000 gp for Midmarch based on the size of Tusk:

quote:
3) Magic Crafters will be able to buy material Components worth 75% of the base value of Tusk.


Tusk is a small city, so it has a value of 4000 gp, 75% sets the maximum component value to 3000 gp, or item value to double that - 6000 gp. So, going by that, Safiya / Senas can't craft an item worth 8000 gp until Tusk becomes a large city.

Btw Cass, I think you are confusing Senas with another NPC offering one-time deals for magic weapons/armor. There's no one-time only limit on his deals, though the 60% price tag could change in the future.
DM
 GM, 3885 posts
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 11:10
Re: OOC 3
So you guys can create items that are more powerful than those that you would normally be able to buy in the city / region??
Cass Mordane
 Player, 622 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 11:15
Re: OOC 3
Thanks, Safiya.

DM, sn’t the top item available in the area 7500 gp?

This message was last edited by the player at 11:15, Fri 31 July 2020.

Safiya Vallani
 player, 325 posts
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 11:23
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 75):

Eh, I'm fine with the limit. Mind you, it does make it impossible to ever craft an item of value greater than 24k, even should Tusk become a metropolis.
DM
 GM, 3886 posts
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 12:02
Re: OOC 3
Mind you, it does make it impossible to ever craft an item of value greater than 24k, even should Tusk become a metropolis.


We'll deal with that issue when we come to it.  And I suspect it will probably  involve quests, quest items and risk etc.  BUT - they will be few and far between, because I am not going to run an extra thread on a  casual 'I want ...' type concept.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 623 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 12:21
Re: OOC 3
There is only one item worth such troublesome adventuring...
The Jelly Donut of Infinite Power!
Cass Mordane
 Player, 625 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 15:17
Re: OOC 3
Andalon de Lebeda:
Andalon de Lebeda rolled 21 using 1d20+1.  Linguistics check.

Umm, I feel a bit of a fraud scoring 21 on a skill check I have no ranks in!


After hours of trying to decipher the writings, it was Andalon who discovered that they were actually in the common tongue. The others simply had the book upside down.
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 331 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 18:35
Re: OOC 3
Yes, that +1 must surely be for the common sense trait --  most underrated.

DM:
No.  I don't understand the question, but it sounds like I should say no.


And if I didn't know you'd raised any kids, I would now.   This one may serve you well in France, also.
~Elkin
 NPC e, 21 posts
 Mordanian
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 08:47
Re: OOC 3
https://www.boredpanda.com/cha...utm_campaign=organic
DM
 GM, 3893 posts
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 16:32
Re: OOC 3
OK.  Off to France (well the Ferry Port) any minute now.  Feel free to play in the fuzzy threads -  Adoven's party and the political reorganisation thread are still open.  The Dragon's Den and the Nereid's Nectar are both open for business.

I should be back and posting properly on the 10th or 11th.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 994 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Mon 3 Aug 2020
at 12:33
Re: OOC 3
Bon voyage, mon ami!  :o)
DM
 GM, 3894 posts
Mon 3 Aug 2020
at 17:55
Re: OOC 3
Merci beaucoup.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 627 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 14:46
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Have you refreshed your Group 0 map?

Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 996 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 16:32
Re: OOC 3
Thanks, I see it now. :o)
Kendrick Winters
 player, 484 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 20:16
Re: OOC 3
Andalon de Lebeda:
Thanks, I see it now. :o)


Does this mean that we need to do some overland traveling?
Cass Mordane
 Player, 628 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 20:59
Re: OOC 3
I think the word Nomen stands out like a neon sign. I think we should head there first.

Yeah, those were personal instructions to me when I couldn’t see it. I thought I would share for all, just in case.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:00, Thu 06 Aug 2020.

DM
 GM, 3896 posts
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 08:14
Re: OOC 3
Folks, I haven't forgotten you.  I am back from my holiday, and still trying to get  over it.  It was very relaxing, no time pressures for anything lots of time for reading etc etc.  One problem was that I only took three of the Tiffany Aching books with me.  Then I started to read the fourth yesterday evening.  At 3 am I went to bed.  Just one more to go, BUT I will make myself leave it to the weekend.

And I have learned not to take overnight ferries with DFDS ...  getting any sleep on them is next to impossible.  However, they aren't bad ferries, and they are much cheaper than the alternatives.

I will get posts up before the end of the week!
Adoven
 Player, 745 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 15:39
Re: OOC 3
I loved the Tiffany Aching story arc. A pity the author passed away.
DM
 GM, 3897 posts
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 16:06
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven (msg # 91):

I think they are the best of Pratchett's books. But then, I always preferred the 'witch' books over the others.
Adoven
 Player, 746 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 16:09
Re: OOC 3
My preference was the Watch books. Hell, ALL of the Discworld books were entertaining.
DM
 GM, 3901 posts
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 11:44
Re: OOC 3
I have just advertised for new players.  Feel free to recommend this game to friends (who you are prepared to play with) who are looking for a game.
DM
 GM, 3903 posts
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 20:29
Re: OOC 3
Folks, please welcome Viktoria d'Lodkova (and her original player) back.
Adoven
 Player, 748 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 20:36
Re: OOC 3
I Welcome my wife to the fold. But she is now properly addressed as Lady Viktoria.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 633 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 20:45
Re: OOC 3
Woohoo. Welcome back.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 488 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 21:23
Re: OOC 3
Welcome back.
Wonder if our original players are all back these days :)
Viktoria d'Lodovka
 Player, 468 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&V Shipping
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 21:43
Re: OOC 3
Adoven:
I Welcome my wife to the fold. But she is now properly addressed as Lady Viktoria.


Well I would have got there eventually anyways, if my dearly beloved father and all my siblings died. It's better this way, I'd think

I appreciate the welcome, and look forward to shaking the dust off my swords and helping where I can!
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 334 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 23:46
Re: OOC 3
Welcome! (back)
DM
 GM, 3907 posts
Fri 14 Aug 2020
at 21:39
Re: OOC 3
And now Tatyana has joined us as well :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 634 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 14 Aug 2020
at 21:56
Re: OOC 3
Welcome, Tatyana.
Tatyana
 player, 1 post
Fri 14 Aug 2020
at 22:13
Re: OOC 3
Hi!

I'm one of the new folks and I am ... well overwhelmed with all that's come to pass here!

Will try to at least get a portrait up soon, and then a character sheet and description.
Domitius
 player, 408 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 03:09
Re: OOC 3
Welcome Tatyana and Viktoria
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 440 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 05:19
Re: OOC 3
<waves his walking stick over the crowd in greetings to Lady Vik and smiles and nods to Tatyana>
DM
 GM, 3908 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 07:48
Re: OOC 3
And now welcome Vova  :)

There are a few more new characters in the pipeline - I have been pleased with the applications this time around, with interesting and rounded characters.  No-one that I have felt the need to reject out of hand, or have to spend weeks working with to get a workable character.

Soon we will have Group 3 up and running again, which means  we should be able to move back to exploring the south and east again, before too long.  However, Group 3 will start by visiting Bogside  ....
DM
 GM, 3909 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 08:10
Re: OOC 3
And ...  I have just closed the application process.
DM
 GM, 3910 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 08:36
Re: OOC 3
Now Rana has joined us  :)
DM
 GM, 3914 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 11:50
Re: OOC 3
 Khora, Minia and Maple have joined as well.  One more potential PC, who is still in an early 'negotiation' stage  :)  All the new guys are still working on their character sheets and backgrounds, but we are getting close  ....

This message was last edited by the GM at 12:19, Sat 15 Aug 2020.

Cass Mordane
 Player, 635 posts
 Opportunist
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 12:45
Re: OOC 3
Welcome to all. You have made the right choice.
Minia
 Player, 1 post
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 15:47
Re: OOC 3
Seems we have there.

Hello everyone. I'll be messaging and working with a few of you once I have my stuff nailed down
Maple
 player, 1 post
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 16:13
Re: OOC 3
Me as well. Nice to meet you all :D
Kendrick Winters
 player, 489 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 16:14
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Hi!

I'm one of the new folks and I am ... well overwhelmed with all that's come to pass here!


Don't let all of the other stuff overwhelm you.
Just focus on getting your feet wet in Group 3. Afterwards... you'll get to know everyone else :)
DM
 GM, 3915 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 16:29
Re: OOC 3
and Elstaer rounds the new group out :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 636 posts
 Opportunist
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 16:31
Re: OOC 3
Yes, what Kendrick said.

And welcome Elstaer.
Adoven
 Player, 752 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 16:42
Re: OOC 3
Welcome to you all. It's a fun little microcosm we have here.
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 335 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 16:47
Re: OOC 3
Yep, welcome new blood!

And please do watch each other's backs, while you're in Bogside...
Maple
 player, 2 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 17:12
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Alisa D'Medvyed (msg # 117):

Of course :) I'd hate to be an only child and an orphan
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 337 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 17:26
Re: OOC 3
You're adventuring with your mum and/or dad, is what you're saying?  Family dynamic makes for interesting RP.  ;)

This wouldn't mark the first character with a child in tow.  Though the other was just a baby.
Minia
 Player, 2 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 17:33
Re: OOC 3
Sisters, orphans by backstory
Maple
 player, 3 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 17:33
Re: OOC 3
Oh no Minia is my younger sister :D
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 338 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 17:42
Re: OOC 3
I get it now -  I read it the other way, that you were already an only child.
Good stuff -  I've long wanted to play siblings in some game, but it's not happened.

Minia, do you take your name from the minia bird?   I love those birds!
Minia
 Player, 3 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 17:46
Re: OOC 3
I...do now? It's a name I pulled off a list of appropriate names for the ethnic group I'm part of in Golarion. That I'm named after a river bird makes sense
_ Wyn Roth
 NPC, 24 posts
 Co-Owner: Dragons Den
 in Tusk
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 18:08
Re: OOC 3
Playing as part of a sibling group is great fun, I can highly recommend it.  Just make sure you don't get awkward siblings like Berta and Gedd. ;)
Rana
 player, 1 post
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 18:33
Re: OOC 3
Thank you for the warm welcomes.  Looking forward to playing in a game again ... it has been far too long. :)
Kiera
 player, 234 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 19:55
Re: OOC 3
Welcome, everyone!  Always nice to have new players around- feel free to jump in and join things!
Elstaer Valyrion
 player, 3 posts
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 20:41
Re: OOC 3
Hello everyone.  Once we get our feet wet on our first mission you will see or hear more from us I am sure.
Marceline
 player, 208 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Tue 18 Aug 2020
at 22:44
Re: OOC 3
Hello new people! Welcome to town!
~Gedd
 NPC p, 22 posts
 Gedd Roth
 Half-orc archer
Wed 19 Aug 2020
at 13:46
Re: OOC 3
_ Wyn Roth:
Playing as part of a sibling group is great fun, I can highly recommend it.  Just make sure you don't get awkward siblings like Berta and Gedd. ;)

Hey, mind your manners, Wyn - I resemble that remark! ;o)

Welcome back Vik and welcome aboard to all you new folks.

We will look forward to seeing you occasionally in some of the Fuzzy threads too, which are places where we can interact as player characters outside of the main adventuring threads and not restricted by the time-line of the main adventures as well.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 639 posts
 Opportunist
Wed 19 Aug 2020
at 23:14
Re: OOC 3
Nice backstory, Khora.
DM
 GM, 3929 posts
Thu 20 Aug 2020
at 15:14
Re: OOC 3
It has taken me about three days to write (although there were lots of interruptions)  but here are my views on Duelling.

Soon they will be added to the wiki, and I will open a Duelling Salon in Tusk.

http://galinia.org.uk/duelling
Marceline
 player, 209 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Thu 20 Aug 2020
at 18:57
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 131):

Given Golarion's mishmash of nations and techs, does this potentially mean we could work our way up to 'Pistols at dawn' style dueling?

This is mostly a joke you guys
Tatyana
 player, 15 posts
Thu 20 Aug 2020
at 21:56
Re: OOC 3
Just wondering for group 3 if we will be goign through Tusk on the way to Bogside? Or if it's a reasonable detour to do so. I think it'd be nice to talk to the former bandits who worked for Kressle?
Minia
 Player, 14 posts
Fri 21 Aug 2020
at 02:08
Re: OOC 3
I support that idea though Minia might grumble
DM
 GM, 3932 posts
Fri 21 Aug 2020
at 11:01
Re: OOC 3
You will get an IC answer  :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 640 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 21 Aug 2020
at 19:38
Re: OOC 3
Checks new map. Doesn’t see any centaurs indicated.



OOC :
14:34, Today: Cass Mordane rolled 4 using 1d20.  Choose to Disbelieve.

DM
 GM, 3937 posts
Fri 21 Aug 2020
at 19:47
Re: OOC 3
Refresh your cache and (if you have a large image) use Ctrl-Minus to reduce the size - it is quite a big map this time.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 641 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 21 Aug 2020
at 20:17
Re: OOC 3
Good thing I only rolled a 4. Refreshing worked. Thanks.
Adoven
 Player, 756 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 21 Aug 2020
at 21:41
Re: OOC 3
My phone has no refresh. Cannot see them.
Marik
 Player, 287 posts
Fri 21 Aug 2020
at 21:47
Re: OOC 3
It's really not imperative at the moment I don't think, unless you're planning to attack, which will really annoy Marik.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1007 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Sat 22 Aug 2020
at 01:51
Re: OOC 3
Adoven, the map shows 12 centaurs in a group, hexes l1-4 to t1-13, about 180ft ahead of the party.
Kiera
 player, 239 posts
Sat 22 Aug 2020
at 04:56
Re: OOC 3
Oh, yay, I must have splashed water on the RNG or something.  It's ticked at me.  Another nat 1.
DM
 GM, 3940 posts
Sat 22 Aug 2020
at 13:57
Re: OOC 3
I have been having trouble getting into RPoL all morning.  This is what happens ....

http://rp.baileymail.net/lib/e...aneous:rpol_down.jpg
Tatyana
 player, 17 posts
Sat 22 Aug 2020
at 16:37
Re: OOC 3
Same, on and off.
Kiera
 player, 240 posts
Sat 22 Aug 2020
at 20:14
Re: OOC 3
Same here- keeps going up and down, up and down.
Maple
 player, 11 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 02:31
Re: OOC 3
Woot! finally back online!
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 11 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 04:38
Re: OOC 3

 We live, again!
Kiera
 player, 241 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 05:13
Re: OOC 3
I guess the server people migrated something, and by the time jase remembered to tell us, it was already underway?
DM
 GM, 3941 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 07:11
Re: OOC 3
Yeh.  I am sure Jase will let us know what happened soon :)

But  it is good to be back :)

I reorganized the front page of the wiki while we were away, to start taking account of the recent political changes.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku.php?id=stolen_land:start
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1009 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 15:05
Re: OOC 3
Looking good. :o)

When you have time, could you link an updated version of the Tusk Finances spreadsheet?
DM
 GM, 3945 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 15:25
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Andalon de Lebeda (msg # 150):

Will do.  If I haven't done it in the next 2/3 weeks -  remind me!

I get to go play 17th century soldiers next weekend (for the first time since the start of Covid) - and I have new learners starting this week.  My memory is not as good as it was ....
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1011 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 15:48
Re: OOC 3
Lol, I wish I could say my memory was perfect ... definitely not, these days.

I hope your trip back in time is as much fun as ever.  :o)
DM
 GM, 3947 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 15:55
Re: OOC 3

I hope your trip back in time is as much fun as ever.  :o)


Thank you, I am sure it will be.  There will be camping, BBQs, late night drinking around camp fires - and then a bit of Musketry, sword play and a few other bits and bobs.  If we are really lucky we will get a cannon out ...

Oh, and did I mention there will be more BBQs and more late night drinking around a camp fire?  How can it not be fun?  :)
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 342 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 23:29
Re: OOC 3
I wish you much fun, but will suggest that this:

late night drinking around camp fires -

Plus this:

If we are really lucky we will get a cannon out ...

Equals: Living veeery dangerously.    Load that thing with nerf balls!
DM
 GM, 3950 posts
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 06:51
Re: OOC 3
Alisa D'Medvyed:
Equals: Living veeery dangerously.


But only for other people  :)  Black powder is magic ....

Did you know that if you throw a handful of black powder onto a  BBQ -  there is a magician's flash and a puff of smoke -  and it puts the BBQ out?

A pile of powder on the crown of someone's hat and a lit match -  there is a magician's flash and a puff of smoke -   and suddenly the hat doesn't have a crown any more.

Pure magic!
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 13 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 11:22
Re: OOC 3

 I had the delight of being at a reenactment event once where the grass wadding for the cannon had a hedgehog sleeping in it. Knocked a poor guy off his feet on the other side of the field. ^_^
DM
 GM, 3951 posts
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 11:35
Re: OOC 3
That is one  LARGE bore cannon!  Much larger than anything we play with :)

I was at a re-enactment many years ago, where burning cannon wadding combined with strong winds and a recently harvested field -  set the battlefield on fire.

Battle cancelled, full scale evacuation of spectators and participants - and a few cars burnt out.  There is a story that one of the cars destroyed belonged to the Fire Safety Officer, from the Local Fire and Rescue Srevice, who had approved the event.  However, I suspect that is apocryphal  ....
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 344 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 01:57
Re: OOC 3
Well, thank goodness it wasn't an armadillo, I suppose!

However, I suspect that is apocryphal

More like apocalyptic.   And here I thought people getting beat up with mock swords and halberds, was about the most extreme thing...
Cass Mordane
 Player, 644 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 03:03
Re: OOC 3
Stay away from the guy called Three Finger Ted.
DM
 GM, 3955 posts
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 08:41
Re: OOC 3
If anyone is interested, I have just posted a description of the life that rural commoner lead ...

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....and:midmarch:outpost

...  although you should, perhaps, note that most other villages in rural Midmarch are smaller and less sophisticated.
DM
 GM, 3961 posts
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 14:40
Re: OOC 3
Right.  That is new maps and posts for Groups 1, 2, 3 & 4 - as well as a write-up and map of Outlook.  Whew.  That took a while!

All done today because I go away for the weekend.  It is my first camping trip of the year, so much of tomorrow morning will be spent prepping the  Camping-Car and getting my gear together - then I set off at about lunchtime.  I will be popping in, through the morning, so I can answer short questions, comments etc.

Just to cap it all, my phone is messing about and  I can't get any internet (although calls work OK)  so I will probably be off-line all weekend.  I will get back home Sunday evening, but may not post until Monday.
DM
 GM, 3962 posts
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 15:10
Re: OOC 3
Whoops.  Just realized that I missed lunch and it is time to prepare dinner ....
Domitius
 player, 412 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 00:28
Re: OOC 3
Enjoy the weekend away...

Try to come back with all your digits, we don't need any more Perry twin look alikes.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 15 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 07:46
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 157):

 I can't prove it, but I suspect the hedgehog was fairly small. Understandably, the remains were not available for examination. And yeah, they bring some fairly large toys to places like Tewkesbury, no doubt encouraged by the presence of the beer tent.
DM
 GM, 3963 posts
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 07:55
Re: OOC 3
Interesting.  I knew there was  a ramming accident about then.  Word had it that they didn't swab the barrel properly and rammed a bag of black powder home onto a glowing ember at the bottom of the barrel.  Which fired the cannon and sent the ramrod flying across the battlefield - which ripped the hands of the rammer to pieces....  I also knew there was a bunch of GW guys involved in hobby.  Never put the two together.

I don't take active roles like that any more.  I leave that to the younger, more energetic chaps.  Normally, when I am working a cannon, I take the part of the Powder Monkey.  That means I am  located some distance behind the cannon, sitting of a box of black powder ....  :)
DM
 GM, 3965 posts
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 09:39
Re: OOC 3
For various reasons, I am leaving a bit later than I expected.  Therefore, I have opened up the Duelling Salon that I have been promising for a while.

And duels must be agreed OOC before the event and follow the rules laid out in the opening post and at
http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....and:general:duelling

I'll leave you guys to run your own duels - UNLESS it is agreed that the duel is to the death, or someone accidentally gets killed.
Domitius
 player, 413 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 09:53
Re: OOC 3
DM:
For various reasons, I am leaving a bit later than I expected.  Therefore, I have opened up the Duelling Salon that I have been promising for a while.

And duels must be agreed OOC before the event and follow the rules laid out in the opening post and at
http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....and:general:duelling

I'll leave you guys to run your own duels - UNLESS it is agreed that the duel is to the death, or someone accidentally gets killed.


Cass....  I believe our time has come, first blood or unconscious or to the Pain?
Cass Mordane
 Player, 646 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 10:08
Re: OOC 3
To the Pain sounds promising. Say 5 remaining hp or less?
Adoven
 Player, 760 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 17:28
Re: OOC 3
To the Pain? As in Princess Bride? Sounds positively ghoulish. I'm going to watch.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 493 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 18:38
Re: OOC 3
Is betting allowed in these duels?
Cass Mordane
 Player, 647 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 19:19
Re: OOC 3
No laws again it. :)
Kendrick Winters
 player, 494 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 19:21
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Cass Mordane (msg # 171):

Maybe we should have a law banning this in the city of Tusk :)
Need more laws!
LOL
Marceline
 player, 211 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 21:27
Re: OOC 3
Having some posting troubles due to hurricane Laura - safe but wet and windy, waiting to see if things get worse. Hope everyone else is safe and dry.
Viktoria d'Lodovka
 Player, 478 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 21:47
Re: OOC 3
Adoven:
To the Pain? As in Princess Bride? Sounds positively ghoulish. I'm going to watch.


I would watch but I'd be too tempted to fight someone in a duel myself!
Tatyana
 player, 21 posts
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 22:06
Re: OOC 3
Do we get to see character sheets before placing any bets? :-P
Adoven
 Player, 761 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 22:27
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Viktoria d'Lodovka (msg # 174):

Let's not duel, you and I. Unless ypu think it romantic in a Gomez and Morticia fashion?
Viktoria d'Lodovka
 Player, 479 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 22:39
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven (msg # 176):

No, we'll do a doubles duel!
Adoven
 Player, 762 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 22:46
Re: OOC 3
Ah. Taking a family fued to the next level.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 648 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 22:53
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Tatyana (msg # 175):

We might be enticed to give you a stat update.

Dom has me by +2 hit points and +4 AC.
Domitius
 player, 414 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 01:08
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
To the Pain sounds promising. Say 5 remaining hp or less?


We can do that, though not the DM's list :P

Call it concession or Unconsciousness whichever comes first.  Full combat gear or unarmoured?

You are the one who was challenged after all.

Hopefully Marik has been practicing he's next ;)
Unless he would prefer to retract his statement :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 649 posts
 Opportunist
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 01:14
Re: OOC 3
I think unarmored would make it more interesting. I have been thinking of how to make it more than a match of dueling dice rollers, but there is really not a lot of framework to build on in this particular case.

If you have improved disarm or any similar combat maneuvers, you may display your prowess most sagely. Cass has the combat maneuver hit things with sword. ;)
Domitius
 player, 415 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 01:18
Re: OOC 3
Hit things with sword it is.  Though precision damage seems unsporting and Dom will refrain.

This message was last edited by the player at 01:39, Sat 29 Aug 2020.

Cass Mordane
 Player, 650 posts
 Opportunist
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 01:35
Re: OOC 3
We can incorporate this maneuver, if you like :


Parry - Duelist makes an attack roll with whatever weapon she is currently wielding, using her full base attack bonus but with a –5 penalty. If this attack roll is equal to or greater than the attack roll being made against her, she parries the attack and it is considered a miss.

This message was last edited by the player at 01:36, Sat 29 Aug 2020.

Domitius
 player, 417 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 01:39
Re: OOC 3
Marceline:
Having some posting troubles due to hurricane Laura - safe but wet and windy, waiting to see if things get worse. Hope everyone else is safe and dry.


Stay safe :)
Domitius
 player, 418 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 01:41
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
We can incorporate this maneuver, if you like :


Parry - Duelist makes an attack roll with whatever weapon she is currently wielding, using her full base attack bonus but with a –5 penalty. If this attack roll is equal to or greater than the attack roll being made against her, she parries the attack and it is considered a miss.


Would that be instead of your attack that round or in addition too?
Cass Mordane
 Player, 651 posts
 Opportunist
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 01:45
Re: OOC 3
In addition.

1. Dom scores a hit.
2. Cass scores a parry.
3. Cass scores a hit.
4. Dom scores a parry.

Round is a draw. No damage. If we want to go by rounds. If so, we could roll for initiative each round. Gamblers could bet per round as well. Or we can do it as one continuous group of actions.
Domitius
 player, 419 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 01:51
Re: OOC 3
That looks reasonable :)

Though I think waiting for bets will slow it down.  Dom would frown on betting on a duel of honour, it's a bit common....
Minia
 Player, 19 posts
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 16:00
Re: OOC 3
So you're both accomplished duelists? I shall watch this with some interest then!
Marik
 Player, 288 posts
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 16:07
Re: OOC 3
Domitius:
Hopefully Marik has been practicing he's next ;)
Unless he would prefer to retract his statement :)

Definitely not retracting my statement. And definitely not going to be dueling, unless you're okay with me levitating out of your reach and dropping fireballs on your head.
Adoven
 Player, 763 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 18:54
Re: OOC 3
That might be an interesting duel. I can Evade your fireballs and counter with my own magics. Or we could start with "no offensive" magics and see how it goes.


There's a reason I've set up a sword school. As eclectic as my style is, I still want a Sword Lord title.
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 347 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 19:15
Re: OOC 3
First rule of Dueling Salon:  You do not talk about Dueling Salon.  Ever.


Second rule of Dueling Salon: You do not burst in and unceremoniously disrupt a match.  Ev-  ah, um, oops.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 497 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 20:10
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Alisa D'Medvyed (msg # 191):

It hasn't started yet :)
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 348 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 29 Aug 2020
at 20:32
Re: OOC 3
I'm aware of that ;) was including the opening formalities as part of the match -  tweaked it a little in case it wasn't clear.   That is her reaction toward the idea of a duel, she's hoping to prevent it from occurring.

If I get slung in the local jail for public disruption, I want an orange tunic!
Domitius
 player, 422 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 00:40
Re: OOC 3
Marik:
Domitius:
Hopefully Marik has been practicing he's next ;)
Unless he would prefer to retract his statement :)

Definitely not retracting my statement. And definitely not going to be dueling, unless you're okay with me levitating out of your reach and dropping fireballs on your head.


You are aware there are social repercussions for being a coward? Shunned at social occasions, your businesses stop getting customers and that sort of thing.

Dom has a bow and evasion so levitating fireballs inside the salon not so much as a challenge as you think.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1017 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 08:03
Re: OOC 3
I wonder what the social repercussions would be for the sword-master who challenges a mage to a sword duel? The word that comes to mind is laughingstock! ;o)
Domitius
 player, 424 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 08:25
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Andalon de Lebeda (msg # 195):

He should have thought of it before he threw the insult out if he didn't want to be challenged.
Adoven
 Player, 764 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 08:28
Re: OOC 3
What insult was that, by the way? I must have missed it.
Domitius
 player, 425 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 08:50
Re: OOC 3
This bit

Marik:
So that really only leaves two options. As has been stated, Lord Henry's charter comes from the King-Regent and we have all been sworn as Brevic Knights. To side against the King-Regent, then, would be an act of treason for each of us, and perhaps more importantly besmirch our honor."

He turns to Domitius, "If you weren't willing to fight for the crown, you should have never sworn the oath to do so."

Domitius
 player, 426 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 08:53
Re: OOC 3
Marik:
Definitely not retracting my statement. And definitely not going to be dueling, unless you're okay with me levitating out of your reach and dropping fireballs on your head.


Actually if that's what it takes then that's what it takes.
Adoven
 Player, 765 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 08:59
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Domitius (msg # 198):

So, Marik made a simple statement of fact, and in response you challenged Cass to a duel? How does THAT make any sense?

If Dom wasn't willing to follow the oath of the Brevic Knights, why did he so swear?
Domitius
 player, 427 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 09:17
Re: OOC 3
Cass was a different insult, Marik called Dom's word into question now he refuses to back up his statement which implies he doesn't believe it's true.

And you asked that last time, he swore because Henry told him too.  To be honest I must admit I thought it would be Adoven first after all the slights he has given Dom over the course of the game.
Adoven
 Player, 766 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 10:14
Re: OOC 3
To be honest, Adoven doesn't understand what the big deal is concerning 'Aldori Honor'. It just sounds like another excuse to wage war and engage in land-grabbing.
Viktoria d'Lodovka
 Player, 481 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 14:13
Re: OOC 3
I got to side with Adoven here, y'all are serious about honour
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 441 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 14:30
Re: OOC 3
Oh, it's the stuff of legends - great tales of fighting against all odds to keep one's honour, struggling for years to regain lost honour, choosing death over dishonour.  The list goes on and on.

Frankly it all sounds rather exhausting ...  :P
Maple
 player, 17 posts
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 15:25
Re: OOC 3
Maple doesn't see it that way, the Aldori sword lords hoarded wealth and power while the less fortunate starved. Where was the honour in that?
Cass Mordane
 Player, 655 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 16:31
Re: OOC 3
An evil king used evil dragons to conquer the land of the Aldori. Many of the Aldori fled to safety, while those who remained were subjugated by the evil king. Both factions of the Aldori longed for justice and a return to their rightful positions.

Domitius is of the faction of Aldori that remained in Rostland. It was the fleeing faction that set up residence in the River Kingdoms.

Cass grew up a street rat and part of what helped him to survive and thrive were tales of the Aldori and dedicating himself to learning Aldori bladesmanship. But having seen that the reality of the Aldori did not meet the romantic idealism, Cass spoke out against them during the war council. In slurring the River Kingdoms Aldori, Cass inadvertently did not make the distinction between that faction and the Rostland faction. Domitius took insult regarding his family and issued a duel challenge to Cass for the offense.

So, in my opinion, Dom is standing up for idealism and the honor of his family.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 498 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 16:39
Re: OOC 3
Of course, thanks for that bit of clarification. I didn't see any of that :)
And Kendrick... probably didn't see much of that either... or the nuances of the different factions. He has um... other factions :)

Duel on!
Marik
 Player, 289 posts
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 18:26
Re: OOC 3
Domitius:
You are aware there are social repercussions for being a coward? Shunned at social occasions, your businesses stop getting customers and that sort of thing.

Dom has a bow and evasion so levitating fireballs inside the salon not so much as a challenge as you think.


So I am more than happy to deal with this in game, but since we're here, here are my thoughts:

1) I supposed it depends on who is going to consider Marik a coward for ignoring Domitius' challenge. From what I'm seeing in the OOC chat, the answer is not many. Domitius has spend way too long in noble court's to think people are going to care that much. Moreover, a quick check of the "Influence in Midmarch" page shows that Marik has a 21 influence in Midmarch and Domitius has a 12. I'm no expert, but that seems like a pretty big difference to me. Finally, I think it's probably a pretty good assumption that Marik's diplomacy skill is much higher than Domitius', so it's probably not a good idea to challenge him in the court of public opinion.

2) I was going to bring up what Andalon stated. It doesn't seem very honorable for someone who has likely trained with a sword since they were a wee child to challenge someone to a duel of blades who has literally never picked one up. Super courageous on Domitius' part.

3) Marik really doesn't care about Domitius' opinion of him. As he stated in the same rant you quoted above, Marik's mother was a whore, he doesn't know who his father is, and he grew up on the street. Honor doesn't mean much to him and he doesn't really care if Domitius (and likely very few others) are going to call him a coward. And again, given his influence in Midmarch I seriously doubt he'll be "shunned at social occasions", and Marik doesn't really have any businesses. Rather, he is one of the more prominent landholders in Midmarch and has a literal monopoly on all iron, gold, and silver mined in Midmarch. I doubt people will refuse to deal with him. Besides, with Marik's social skills, it won't take long for him to turn things around and make Domitius look like a bully.

4) If there was a duel with Marik using magic, Domitius wouldn't be allowed to use his bow. See, the equivalent of Domitius' challenge to a sword duel would be Marik challenging Domitius to a duel of spells...something I'm guessing Domitius wouldn't be very good at.

5) And like Marik (and now Adoven) have said, Marik simply stated the truth. Domitius swore an oath and then said he would not fulfill that oath. Does that mean Marik questioned his honor? I suppose so, but then it's simply the truth. The fact that "Henry told him too" doesn't change the fact that he swore the oath. That's just passing the buck.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 499 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 19:10
Re: OOC 3
I'd say let's go IC
DM
 GM, 3966 posts
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 19:15
Re: OOC 3
Personally, I have always wondered what honour there was in challenging someone to a duel with weapons who is unskilled in physical combat?  TBH, That sounds more bullying than honourable.

Of course, as the challenged party, Marik would have choice of weapons  :)  Personally, If I played Marik I would accept a duel and choose spell combat  ....

This message was last edited by the GM at 19:44, Sun 30 Aug 2020.

~Elkin
 NPC e, 23 posts
 Mordanian
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 19:35
Re: OOC 3
It won’t happen until all this grueling dueling business is over, but here is the “pony” Elkin will choose. It is actually a Haflinger horse standing just over thirteen hands.

https://cdn.globetrotting.com....a-Quarter-Horses.jpg

He chose a spirited stallion that he will name Thornberry.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 500 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 21:01
Re: OOC 3
Dom how many have you challenged? 3? Is this the making of the three musketeers?
Adoven
 Player, 767 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 21:03
Re: OOC 3
Does this make me Porthos the Pirate? Loved the Oliver Platt rendition of the character.
Domitius
 player, 428 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 21:39
Re: OOC 3
Only the two sorry Adoven, you will have to wait.

I'd be interested to see what the oath was, I could see him swearing to Henry but balking at swearing to Brevoy, still it was early days and Dom wasn't as fleshed out as he is now.  Also I would like to point out he hasn't broken the oath so all Marik has is an accusation of being a traitor not a fact.

We do need to remember as a group that none of you are gutter trash anymore, you're the nobility of Midmarch and people would expect you act accordingly.  I know Dom holds you all to a higher standard than the street sweepings and treats you accordingly.

Marik you are aware Dom was one of your customers, right now he will most likely close the Jewellers down in New Dawn in light of Marik's attitude.

I have been wondering about the whole choice of weapons thing, traditionally the options were sword and gun but we are thinking more 18th/19th century than medieval there.  Back then I think it was more a case of you turned up and fought with what you where comfortable with, Dom would have expected Marik to use his magic in a duel, just as he would have expected to use his sword in the duel.

Also Dom isn't trying to kill anyone, if you want to fight to first touch with practice swords that would suffice honour for both parties.
DM
 GM, 3967 posts
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 22:05
Re: OOC 3
Domitius:
...
We do need to remember as a group that none of you are gutter trash anymore, you're the nobility of Midmarch and people would expect you act accordingly.  I know Dom holds you all to a higher standard than the street sweepings and treats you accordingly.
...
I have been wondering about the whole choice of weapons thing, traditionally the options were sword and gun but we are thinking more 18th/19th century than medieval there.  Back then I think it was more a case of you turned up and fought with what you where comfortable with, Dom would have expected Marik to use his magic in a duel, just as he would have expected to use his sword in the duel.

Also Dom isn't trying to kill anyone, if you want to fight to first touch with practice swords that would suffice honour for both parties.


However, those rules for Noble behaviour are down to me to decide.  This is not 18th century Europe.  And you have seen MY house duelling rules.  If they are not observed the Duelling Salon will be closed down.  Simples.

Duelling is NOT going to be a major part of this game.  Nor is ongoing conflict between players.  I don't enjoy that as a player and I don't enjoy it as a DM.

If anyone has a  Character who can't deal with that, perhaps it is time to roll a new a new character who can.
DM
 GM, 3968 posts
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 22:26
Re: OOC 3

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DM
 GM, 3969 posts
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 22:29
Re: OOC 3
Hi Guys.  I am back from the weekend - and I still have all my extremities!

I had a great time, teaching a couple of people how to fire a musket on Saturday, then drilling with and fining a battery of cannon.  It is fair to say that the bangs were big, the beer flowed freely and the BBQ was good.
Maple
 player, 18 posts
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 22:49
Re: OOC 3
mmmmm bbq, you're making a girl hungry DM. Why did I agree to this 3 month liquid diet ;-;
Cass Mordane
 Player, 656 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 23:18
Re: OOC 3
We are having BBQ tonight. No beer or cannons though. At least, not planned. Sounds like you had a fun time. Huzzah!
Kiera
 player, 244 posts
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 23:44
Re: OOC 3
Going to try the barbecue stuff next weekend- been too hot here, and next weekend is Labor Day here in the States so we'll be holding a pretty big one.

I want to try my hand at ribs and such- or something big.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 657 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 30 Aug 2020
at 23:57
Re: OOC 3
My brother grills a lot and he suggested barbecuing a pork butt roast. On the rare occasions that I grill, I usually pick steaks, maybe a litttle seafood, and grilled corn in the cob.
Kiera
 player, 245 posts
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 00:39
Re: OOC 3
You can grill pretty much anything, if you find a way.  Grilled fruit on ice cream, grilled pizza- just have to find a way.

A good roast will take you a few hours and constant attention, but it could turn out wonderful.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 501 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 01:26
Re: OOC 3
Damn those whispers!
Those whispers are cursed!!!
quote:
Just above a whisper... pregnant?!?!? Or was it just below a whisper?


Dom, dom, dom, dun...........
:)
DM
 GM, 3973 posts
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 11:33
Re: OOC 3
Kiera:
You can grill pretty much anything ....


It was a Bring-Your-Own BBQ on Friday night - I marinaded some strips of lamb fillet in fresh mint, oil and white vinegar.  After 24 hours in the marinade, they need little more than searing to be really nice  :)

Saturday night was venison stew - We were on a farm that runs herds of deer  (among other stock).  That was really nice as well :)
Kiera
 player, 246 posts
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 11:46
Re: OOC 3
I remember going to a restaurant that did a really nice grilled elk.  It was actually pretty good, but it's hard to find it outside of specialty markets and butchers- but I make do with good pork, beef, chicken... not too sure of my skills with lamb or seafood, though- might try trout grilled on a plank before it gets too cold and nasty outside to do much grilling.

But yeah, as long as you cook meat enough to kill any little surprises that might be on or in the meat, make it as rare or as well-done as you like, you know?
DM
 GM, 3975 posts
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 11:55
Re: OOC 3
Just be careful with Pork and Chicken.

I like to cut chicken into strips and marinade them in oil, lemon juice and pepper.  Then they take just a couple of minutes on the BBQ, and they are cooked through but really succulent and juicy  :)

I used to have 'bats' for fish, a flat cage that you put the fish in before you cook them, it holds the fish together nicely and you don't get bits stuck all over the grill.
Marceline
 player, 212 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 18:27
Re: OOC 3
You all had barbecue? Man my last few days were just wind and soggyness :(

Hurricane has passed and aside from some weekend troubles it looks like we're okay but it got a bit tense there for a while. Attempting to catch up and learning about both the dueling and the honor system within. Honor!
DM
 GM, 3978 posts
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 18:34
Re: OOC 3
Glad you are OK.
Tatyana
 player, 22 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 03:37
Re: OOC 3
Maple:
mmmmm bbq, you're making a girl hungry DM. Why did I agree to this 3 month liquid diet ;-;

!!??!?!?!!????!!!
Maple
 player, 19 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 04:15
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Maple:
mmmmm bbq, you're making a girl hungry DM. Why did I agree to this 3 month liquid diet ;-;

!!??!?!?!!????!!!

Oh, I'm in a bariatric program being observed by the hospital. Its absolutely legit. I'm being observed by a doctor, a dietician , a fitness instructor and a therapist. I get weekly check ups and everything. I've lost 50 pounds already so it works for the short term getting me to a place I can work off the rest of the weight myself :). Just get food cravings sometimes.

This message was last edited by the player at 04:17, Tue 01 Sept 2020.

Kiera
 player, 247 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 04:26
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Just be careful with Pork and Chicken.

I like to cut chicken into strips and marinade them in oil, lemon juice and pepper.  Then they take just a couple of minutes on the BBQ, and they are cooked through but really succulent and juicy  :)

I used to have 'bats' for fish, a flat cage that you put the fish in before you cook them, it holds the fish together nicely and you don't get bits stuck all over the grill.


That's always been the problem with me and grilling fish- I try to get the good grill marks on it, but the blasted filet always comes apart into fragments and sticks to the grill or ends up dropping into the coals.

On the other hand, if I had the money, I'd have one of those smoker rigs and just go absolutely nuts with it.
DM
 GM, 3980 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 06:38
Re: OOC 3
Maple:
I've lost 50 pounds already


Well done.  I haven't weighed myself since I came back from the weekend -  But I had lost about 15-20lb  since the start of the lockdown.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 660 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 11:32
Re: OOC 3
Role playing - A lot of imaginary people telling me that I can’t do things.
DM
 GM, 3983 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 11:37
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
Role playing - A lot of imaginary people telling me that I can’t do things.

Oh.  I promise you, I am not imaginary  :P
DM
 GM, 3984 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 12:57
Re: OOC 3
Some of you might be aware that there are Bonus properties that come from the Campaign System – which represents the campaign living standard that your character can afford.  Those of you not on the list, have a basic room in a barrack block -  or stay in one of the buildings that you own.

There are options to build extra accommodation for yourself in the campaign rules  (ask me and I will point them out) as part of your property portfolio -  BUT make sure you have an income established first  ;}

Now you just need to tell me where you want to be based.  Houses and town houses are found in Cities and towns, so you have a choice of Tusk, Ringbridge, Newgate or Oston - assuming you get permission from the landowner.
These don’t have to be your main residence – for example Henry has a number of homes, but generally uses either his manor house in Tusk or the castle at Newgate.  Cyrus has a manor house in Ringbridge, and a smaller house in Tusk (for when he is in the city)

See below for the properties you can have as a freebie – and further below for a quick description.  This is all based on the PF cost of living standards :}

The following people have enough of an Income to secure a House as a bonus.
  • Adoven
  • Andalon
  • Cass

These people can have a Town House  as a bonus.
  • Domitius
  • Safiya
  • Marik

Kendrick & Pipre already have a Town House in Tusk – and one of them might have an apartment in Tusk keep.

Descriptions

Barracks Room – You get a small room Just big enough for a small bed, table and chair (let’s say 7.5x5)   in a barracks and are entitled to meals in the mess hall.  There are baths, toilets etc for communal use   You need not track purchases of meals or taxes that cost 1 sp or less.

Town House - Three rooms,(15×20) stacked one on top of each other. Ground = Entrance, storage, washroom. Stairs to – Middle floor: living room, cooking done over the open fire. Stairs to – Top Floor: Sleeping room with sloping ceilings. Generally part of a terrace of houses. Small yard with toilet.- - You eat regular meals and can afford occasional minor luxuries. You still wear artisan style clothing (costs less 10gp), but can afford clothes for everyday use – and a different set for ‘best’ – and they are in fairly good condition. You probably employ a P/T cleaner and P/T cook. You can secure any non-magical item worth 1 gp or less from your home in 1d10 minutes, and need not track purchases of common meals or taxes that cost 1 gp or less.

House - - Think three bedroomed house spread over three floors, top is a half-floor with sloping ceilings. Often has a yard with a toilet and is part of a terrace. Perhaps one live-in servant with others coming in part-time.  You eat well and can afford minor luxuries when you feel like it, but you still save up for bigger treats. You probably have a set of Courtier’s clothes for posh occasions.  You can secure any non-magical item worth 5 gp or less in your home, and need only track purchases of meals or taxes in excess of 5 gp.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1021 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 14:24
Re: OOC 3
quote:
The following people have enough of an Income to secure a House as a bonus.
  • Andalon

Thanks, but I think I'll stick with the 5-star accommodation I have at the cathedral.  :o)
DM
 GM, 3986 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 18:30
Re: OOC 3
Andalon de Lebeda:
Thanks, but I think I'll stick with the 5-star accommodation I have at the cathedral.  :o)


Really?  :)
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 352 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 00:15
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Maple (msg # 230):

This is the liquid diet you really want to avoid:

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BKDB...tle-banks-BKDBR7.jpg
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1022 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 12:16
Re: OOC 3
Was that a liquid diet or a really good weekend?  ;o)
DM
 GM, 3988 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 12:54
Re: OOC 3
My weekend wasn't THAT good!
Kiera
 player, 249 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 13:20
Re: OOC 3
I don't think I've seen anyone have that good of a weekend since I was in college...
Maple
 player, 22 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 13:30
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Well done.  I haven't weighed myself since I came back from the weekend -  But I had lost about 15-20lb  since the start of the lockdown.

Thanks DM, good work on your part too!
Maple
 player, 23 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 13:31
Re: OOC 3
Alisa D'Medvyed:
In reply to Maple (msg # 230):

This is the liquid diet you really want to avoid:

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BKDB...tle-banks-BKDBR7.jpg

Ha! agreed XD
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 442 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 13:37
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Andalon de Lebeda:
Thanks, but I think I'll stick with the 5-star accommodation I have at the cathedral.  :o)


Really?  :)

Oh, I think we're all moving in with Andalon ?  :>
Maple
 player, 24 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 13:40
Re: OOC 3
~Percy Arndell:
DM:
Andalon de Lebeda:
Thanks, but I think I'll stick with the 5-star accommodation I have at the cathedral.  :o)


Really?  :)

Oh, I think we're all moving in with Andalon ?  :>

Gotta seize that property for the state and common working-man ;p
Viktoria d'Lodovka
 Player, 483 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 13:43
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Maple (msg # 245):

Well the state here isn't precisely the working man now is it?
Maple
 player, 25 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 13:46
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Viktoria d'Lodovka (msg # 246):

Well then I guess that will need to be changed won't it comrade :P
Viktoria d'Lodovka
 Player, 484 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 13:48
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Maple (msg # 247):

*looks at her swords*

*looks at her baronet husband*

*thinks about her lord father*

Of course, comrade. I'm right there with you! Why don't you let me know when and where the next meeting will be?
DM
 GM, 3989 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 14:15
Re: OOC 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgVQtGw80LY
Alisa D'Medvyed
 player, 353 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Thu 3 Sep 2020
at 02:33
Re: OOC 3
Andalon de Lebeda:
Was that a liquid diet or a really good weekend?  ;o)


Just one weekend, it's probably good.  If it's every weekend, and "weekends" start getting to be five or six days long, well...


Had Domitius been resolved on going through with the duel, I'd envisioned a scene with Alisa sitting between Kiera and Berta, her face in her hands, like "Here I am with representatives of the two best boozing houses in the lands.  And, I can't even ask either of you for anything to drink, because I'm..."
DM
 GM, 3990 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2020
at 12:42
Re: OOC 3
I have been working to restructure the wiki to reflect the split between Tusk, Midmarch and Old Keep - I am getting there slowly.

As part of that, I have been working with Tusk Council to establish an 'electoral' system for Tusk.  Don't expect a full on democracy -  it is more like a  Fantasy Version  of the historic system used in free cities found in the Hanseatic League or Holy Roman Empire.

Welcome to Lords, Lairds and Burghers ...

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....tusk:tuskcitycharter

What it does mean, is that any PC can build up their investment to a point where they can be elected to the council -  AND Then (if they really want to) can try to recall an existing Council Member, so that there is a post for to apply for  :P

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:37, Thu 03 Sept 2020.

DM
 GM, 3993 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 13:44
Re: OOC 3
One for the established PCs -  have a look through this list and check that I have all of your entourages.  If not PM me with the ones who are missing.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....southernregionpeople

New Guys - I'll add you when we get back from adventuring, you get your first BP to spend and you are an established part of the game  :)  That said, it is a handy 'pocket guide' to most of the people you might meet (or search out) in game
Domitius
 player, 432 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 14:26
Re: OOC 3
Also an offer to all, if you want your own heraldric devices designed shoot me a PM and I'll see what I can come up with.

Edited by DM: This is what we have so far.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....arch:midmarchheraldy

This message was last edited by the GM at 14:31, Fri 04 Sept 2020.

Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 357 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 19:00
Re: OOC 3
He does cool work on those, I can attest
DM
 GM, 3998 posts
Sun 6 Sep 2020
at 08:34
Re: OOC 3
I have enhanced the  Campaign Rules  concerning brewing - and you can now brew 'Ale' in a Craft Workshop.  However, a  Brewery is still required if you  want to make a named beer (such as Poachers Pale), rather than the generic 'ale'.

You can see my thinking here

http://galinia.org.uk/beer-and-ale

The same will hold true for wines, although I haven't got around to working out the detail yet.
DM
 GM, 3999 posts
Sun 6 Sep 2020
at 13:12
Re: OOC 3
One of my 'problems' is that I get carried away .....

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....gs:brewing#breweries
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 20 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Sun 6 Sep 2020
at 14:01
Re: OOC 3

 Vova's ambition may now be to start an abbey that churns out bottles of Commotion Lotion, aka Cumbernauld Rocket Fuel, aka 'a bottle of what the fuck are you looking at?' ^_^
DM
 GM, 4009 posts
Wed 9 Sep 2020
at 12:59
Re: OOC 3
I have just updated the map for group0.  It now has Hex Numbers for Varnhold -  and hexes that have been explored but not yet been settled/incorporated are outlined in white.
DM
 GM, 4021 posts
Sun 13 Sep 2020
at 12:51
Re: OOC 3
I was working on converting a city I helped write 20-odd years ago, when I came across the PF rules for Troops.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...ngs/humanoids/troop/
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/besti...ture-types#TOC-Troop

Which, I think, may provide a good way to resolve mass combat when we need it.

However, they need converting for my rules, as the Troop models are based on units consisting of level 1 fighters - rather than L3 warriors.

If anyone wants to help, I'll start a Troop Development thread  :)
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 437 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sun 13 Sep 2020
at 22:00
Re: OOC 3
DM:
If anyone wants to help, I'll start a Troop Development thread  :)


Count me in.
DM
 GM, 4023 posts
Sun 13 Sep 2020
at 22:08
Re: OOC 3
Done.  Added you to the group
Cass Mordane
 Player, 663 posts
 Opportunist
Mon 14 Sep 2020
at 04:32
Re: OOC 3
How many undead dragon god troops can I have?
DM
 GM, 4025 posts
Mon 14 Sep 2020
at 07:21
Re: OOC 3
I'll let  you know when you can afford one.
Tatyana
 player, 26 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 04:32
Re: OOC 3
So um anybody got any bright ideas on what to do at the outpost? Because I'm feeling we're out of clues.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 505 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 05:08
Re: OOC 3
Busy, busy, busy these days. Kendrick is around here and there :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 666 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 05:15
Re: OOC 3
What have you guys been up to over there?
DM
 GM, 4032 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 06:18
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
So um anybody got any bright ideas on what to do at the outpost? Because I'm feeling we're out of clues.


 *grin*  You still have the hopyard, farms and parents to visit :)  And you might get something at the funeral later.

Cass - They have been investigating a murder.

Berta -  yes, it is close to the Roth Hopyards.  To make it worse the girl was working there  ...  No.  You can't go up there for a visit.

Tatyana - I don't think anyone else (apart from your group) can even see your thread :)
DM
 GM, 4037 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 12:58
Re: OOC 3
Ach, I have started to lose track of time very badly! I hardly go outside of the house nowadays, have minimal work commitments and spend a lot of my time playing with game systems.  Days blur into each other, and I have to keep asking my wife what day of the week it is ....

However, it is getting close to the Autumn Solstice -  when we are scheduled for another round of Fuzzy Threads.  I want something fairly local this time -  something that allows you to mix across parties and get to know the new guys  :)

We normally have two Fuzzy RP threads -  I think I have one sussed - But I am open to suggestions for the second one.
DM
 GM, 4038 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 13:40
Re: OOC 3
And ......

I have just made a blog post on troop types, because I am rethinking and tying down the mass combat rules and how they interact with the rest of the Campaign Rules.

Many of you will have realized, by now, that my Blog posts are little more than  'Stream of Thinking' posts.  Writing things down help me get my thoughts in order, which is (most likely) a hang over from my days as an academic :)  That said,  what I write in them is not set in stone and I welcome any thoughts or comments  :)

http://galinia.org.uk/troops
Tatyana
 player, 27 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 21:38
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Tatyana:
So um anybody got any bright ideas on what to do at the outpost? Because I'm feeling we're out of clues.


 *grin*  You still have the hopyard, farms and parents to visit :)  And you might get something at the funeral later.

Cass - They have been investigating a murder.

Berta -  yes, it is close to the Roth Hopyards.  To make it worse the girl was working there  ...  No.  You can't go up there for a visit.

Tatyana - I don't think anyone else (apart from your group) can even see your thread :)

Ah, I didn't realize, sorry! I can see the Bogside thread so just assumed they were all open.

Well, unless anyone else has any pressing other thoughts, hopyard next?
DM
 GM, 4040 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 21:42
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Ah, I didn't realize, sorry! I can see the Bogside thread so just assumed they were all open.


An oversight on my part.  I can fix it if you wish?
Tatyana
 player, 28 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 22:12
Re: OOC 3
I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other :-)
Rana Nervetti
 player, 22 posts
 Tavern wench?
 Perhaps not!
Wed 16 Sep 2020
at 05:07
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Tatyana (msg # 270):

Tatyana - we had discussed the order of our investigation in the thread ... place of death - work place - family - funeral ... is the way I think we were going to work it (all dependent upon when the funeral was taking place because we definitely wanted to be there for that!)
DM
 GM, 4047 posts
Thu 17 Sep 2020
at 20:20
Re: OOC 3
I have just tweaked the Entourage rules so that Entourage-Cousins and Entourage-Allies can advance to higher levels -  however, advancement beyond L5 depends on how much XP they earn from their holdings, at 100xp per BP of income.  There are a few extras as well, but for most Entourages they won't exceed 250xp per year.  As their personal holdings increase, the more XP they get.

Mother Beatrix (who is a blood-cousin to Henry) gets XP for controlling the Pharasman Abbey and its associated Holy Houses.  She gets 650xp per year - 400xp from the Pharasman estate and 250 for being a 'Local Celebrity'  (as are most NPCs with any holdings at all)

Rikka (who is a Cohort-Cousin to Henry but now advances using the same XP system) picks up about 450 xp per year from her basic dealings - although she also gets about 1000xp per year to reflect her role as Treasurer of Midmarch.   Although you should note that  the XP that Henry gets less XP because of it.

This is meant to encourage you to behave well by your Cousins and Allies.  However, they will be satisfied if you restrict their 'personal' holdings  to  a setting that gives them 3* accommodation - be it a Hamlet, Village or a Business.

You do not have to give them any holdings, of course, but then they don't advance beyond L5. At L6, if they have at least one stat at 15, and the appropriate prerequisites, they may advance to an appropriate PC or Prestige class.
Tatyana
 player, 29 posts
Thu 17 Sep 2020
at 20:35
Re: OOC 3
Sorry if I missed that Rana.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 24 posts
 Tavern wench?
 Perhaps not!
Thu 17 Sep 2020
at 20:36
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Tatyana (msg # 275):

It's easily done. :)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 774 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Thu 17 Sep 2020
at 23:00
Re: OOC 3
Can Adoven cede the BP generated by the sword school to his entourage Robert without losing the +1 Defense that gives Adoven his Lord Dominus title?
Cass Mordane
 Player, 668 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 17 Sep 2020
at 23:06
Re: OOC 3
I just gave mine a set of steak knives.
DM
 GM, 4049 posts
Fri 18 Sep 2020
at 05:43
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
Can Adoven cede the BP generated by the sword school to his entourage Robert without losing the +1 Defense that gives Adoven his Lord Dominus title?



Yes -  IF he is an Entourage-Cousin or Ally - in that way he (sort of) swears allegiance to you and/or your family.

The Entourage System  is a mash up between all sorts of systems for swearing Loyalty / Service / Fealty rolled into one.

Entourage-assistants are your loyal servants / staff who will serve you loyally for ever, and these are the guys whose family will serve your family for generations.

Entourage-Cousins  bring them into your family as a Junior member -  and merge your fortunes.  Every one benefits.  Your wealth and holdings are no longer a Personal Holding, but a family holding (as yours is already with Vik and the baby)  head of Household gets the title.  For Example, if Henry dies, his title is passed on -  probably to his daughter, perhaps to Bai, perhaps to Henry's Sister.

Entourage-Allies is almost same and ties two separate groups together, often with a Charter that cedes some land on a PC's estate to an Ally, in return for support etc.  Their defence points would count in the family/estate totals and would count towards titles etc.

As I said, a mash up, trying to do about six things, but also trying to keep it simple -  with one page of rules  :)
DM
 GM, 4053 posts
Fri 18 Sep 2020
at 10:00
Re: OOC 3
And now for the revised Mass Combat Rules.  Including costs and a new mechanic for fighting the battles.  As always, comments and views are welcome - and a big  thanks to Dom for acting as my sounding board, ideas man.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku.php?id=masscombat:start
DM
 GM, 4054 posts
Fri 18 Sep 2020
at 15:03
Re: OOC 3
 And a few more tweaks to the Entourage Page, to make it a bit more consistent.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 669 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 18 Sep 2020
at 20:34
Re: OOC 3
In order to pay for any possible war outbreaks, Cass invents the skyscraper.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 25 posts
 Tavern wench?
 Perhaps not!
Fri 18 Sep 2020
at 21:06
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
In order to pay for any possible war outbreaks, Cass invents the skyscraper.


You'd need an awfully long handle ...
Marik
 Player, 293 posts
Fri 18 Sep 2020
at 21:09
Re: OOC 3
Couple of questions/comments...

1) Do Entourage-Cousins actually have to be blood-related? For instance, could Marik "promote" Alanna to position of an Entourage-Cousin?

2) From a purely mechanical standpoint, it seems that there is absolutely no reason to have an Entourage-Ally vice Entourage-Cousin. They follow the exact same rules, but their income cannot be used by you as you see fit, rather it has to be reinvested back into their estates. Am I missing something?
DM
 GM, 4057 posts
Fri 18 Sep 2020
at 21:52
Re: OOC 3
Do Entourage-Cousins actually have to be blood-related? No.  It is intended as a way to let you expand and give options to those people who didn't build a family with lots of blood relatives.
For instance, could Marik "promote" Alanna to position of an Entourage-Cousin? Yes.  It is supposed to be a way that you could 'expand' your holdings and RP opportunities.  PCs with blood relatives can bring them in as entourages as well.  You can also 'adopt' a cousin without the Entourage-Element (but there are no advantages.  henry has Rikka as a Cohort-Cousin and Abbess Beatrix as a Blood-Cousin. Neither brought him an BPs, but Henry paid to set them both up in their positions and holdings.  However, you choose to play it.

2) From a purely mechanical standpoint, it seems that there is absolutely no reason to have an Entourage-Ally vice Entourage-Cousin. They follow the exact same rules, but their income cannot be used by you as you see fit, rather it has to be reinvested back into their estates. Am I missing something?

No.  The mechanic is as you describe it.  However, it just gives a different RP angle.  While the Entourage-Ally's holdings are expanded, in many ways they still count as part of your holdings. For example, Def Points in their holdings count towards You 'score' when going for a title.  Equally (If Alanna became an entourage-ally) you could use the BP Alanna brings to buy shares in your business, or use one of them to build  a shop in New Dawn (you then collect tax on it) and use the income from that to build her 'holdings' in the city.

One advantage is that they will level faster, if you want the Entourage Cousin to take a Prestige class for any reason.

Just a bit more flexibility in the way PCs can build and manage their estates.

DM
 GM, 4058 posts
Fri 18 Sep 2020
at 22:06
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
In order to pay for any possible war outbreaks, Cass invents the skyscraper.


The only people who make money from wars are arms dealers.  It would make Jovvox happy ....
DM
 GM, 4067 posts
Sun 20 Sep 2020
at 09:17
Re: OOC 3
I have added an example of Entourage progression on this page.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....#advancement_example

It features normal Entourage-Assistants - one of whom becomes an Entourage-Ally at the earliest opportunity.  It assumes that the PC will earn one level per game year -  so will change with faster or slower PC progression.

It is also a reasonable time line for setting up a small 2 hex holding as a minor lordship within Midmarch.  Marcher-Lordships will be slower (You don't get the same help from the Lord) and Tusk may be more difficult.

Setting up holdings and estates can be much quicker if two or three people work together, as you have extra BPs to invest. Loans, etc might also be available - but those must be paid back, normally with interest.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 671 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 20 Sep 2020
at 09:56
Re: OOC 3
I need about 400 BP to set my entourage up nicely. I better get to work on that big skyscraping handle. I wonder what kind of utensils Elkin has in his kitchen?
DM
 GM, 4068 posts
Sun 20 Sep 2020
at 10:06
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Cass Mordane (msg # 288):

Short handled ones, suitable for halflings.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 672 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 20 Sep 2020
at 10:30
Re: OOC 3
It looks like Tusk has the current economy to build Andalon a Great Palace. Just sayin’.
DM
 GM, 4072 posts
Tue 22 Sep 2020
at 12:45
Re: OOC 3
Recent work on the Mass Combat system left me wondering about military buildings, and I realised that there was a lot of overlap between the some of them and that I needed to do something to reflect the different troop types that I added.  In the process, I have changed the name of the Outpost to Fort, although I haven’t changed the stats at all.  I have changed both the cost and Stab of a garrison – it now costs 4bp to build and adds +1 Stab (rather than +2).  The Keep is now a bigger building, costs more and has a higher Def – to better represent a the smallest of the castle types.

Anyone who has already brought any of these buildings, at a lower cost, will find they have been upgraded by next Kingdom round.  If the stats for your building has gone down, I will make the difference up, one way or another.  As far as I can see, it is only Tusk and Whiterun that will be affected. No one will be worse off than they are now.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....strongholds:military

Sooner or later, this will cascade down to the rural pages.
DM
 GM, 4074 posts
Wed 23 Sep 2020
at 07:36
Re: OOC 3
If anyone is interested  :) - I have just added a simple Military Analysis for the region at

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....egion:start#overview

Yes.  I have too much time on my hands.
Kiera Raincutter-Solanus
 player, 258 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 01:38
Re: OOC 3
I'll have some stuff over the weekend, been a busy time here.  Sorry!
DM
 GM, 4078 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 06:21
Re: OOC 3
RL comes first :)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 778 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 07:18
Re: OOC 3
So, a Military Jetty adds +1 Stability +1 Loyalty, and a Conmercial Jetty adds +1 Economy?

Are there seperate military versions of Piers as well?
DM
 GM, 4079 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 08:06
Re: OOC 3
There are no military piers so far, because I haven’t seen the need for them.

Military jetties are there to provide a base for water based troops (that I have called marines) that are intended for adding defence to lakes and rivers.  They are light troops who come with small boats (a bit like fishing boats) who are able to board other vessels, either to check them out or to fight. (1bp buys a unit of troops and a boat).  Rather than traditional 'Marines' in the UK and US forces (originally trained for assault from the sea)- these are specialist soldier/sailors who crew their own vessel and are trained to fight from it - a lawful pirate/buccaneer equivalent.

It would be fairly straightforward to convert a Shallop for military duties - but I can't see there would be any real value in that.  A shallop would come with two units of troops and cost 2 bp.  Two 'boats' cost the same, provide the same defence and are a bit more flexible.

Other vessels can take on mercenary troops and use those for defence / attack - although I haven't written the rules for that yet.  It has been on my mind, since I really started considering the 'have what you hold' concept common in Mivon - but I haven't documented it.

Any vessel can be used to transport troops -  but I think there needs to be a restriction on how well non-specialist troops can fight aboard a vessel.

I'll work on it today.
DM
 GM, 4080 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 08:29
Re: OOC 3
I have just added the following to the Merchant rules.

quote:
Defence

You may upgrade your Crew / Team to [[masscombat:lighttroops#individual_troop_types|Marines]] by spending 1 extra BP per ++transport|(Mule/Ox Train, caravan, vessel)++.  This gives your Vessel / Train one Defence Point to help protect it from pirates / bandits. You may add more defence points, BUT every extra defence point reduces the Economic Value of your vessel by one point.

Any non-specialist troops fighting aboard a vessel fight are ++less effective|(their HP and the damage they do under the Mass combat rules is halved)++ to represent their unfamiliarity with the combat environment.


Which helps explain my thinking in the previous post.  I don't really want to get into full-scale naval battles / encounters - in the same way as I don't want to get into the details of land based mass combat.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 674 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 09:57
Re: OOC 3
Aerial mass combat ahoy!

This message was last edited by the player at 09:57, Fri 25 Sept 2020.

DM
 GM, 4081 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 10:29
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
Aerial mass combat ahoy!


Personally, I was expecting aerial duels -  Heavy Cross Bows in Balloons!


And for all you others, I am tweaking those rules - with specialist troop types and a small settlement defence bonus.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 675 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 11:04
Re: OOC 3
So much for changing my name to Cass “Mass Combat” Mordane. I do like the small settlement defense bonus idea. How about free magical force fields?
Tatyana
 player, 32 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 17:00
Re: OOC 3
I'm presuming the new folks aren't invited to the wedding (since we don't know the happy couple)? Still thinking of something for the other downtime thread...
Kendrick Winters
 player, 516 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 17:22
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Tatyana (msg # 301):

All of the newbie may join and post in the Fuzzy threads. More the merrier. The purpose of the fuzzy threads is to allow for cross-over between groups. Take the chance for the old folks to get to know the new folks :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 676 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 17:23
Re: OOC 3
What if you just happened to be visiting the Mithral at the time and one of the helpful staff just assumed you were there for the reception and swept you inside merrily with all the others?

Nothing wrong with taking a peek and having a quiet drink of previously paid for perlet (our version of champagne) with the good old mayor of Tusk, is there?
DM
 GM, 4082 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 18:14
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
I'm presuming the new folks aren't invited to the wedding (since we don't know the happy couple)? Still thinking of something for the other downtime thread...



As Kendrick pointed out, you are invited  :)

The main purpose of Group 0 fuzzy threads is to allow interaction between PCs from different parties.  In your case, it is a way to get to know some of the more established characters.

I'll  pop Big Job in there so you have someone you recognize.  The key thing to remember is that this is 'out of time' when compared to the adventuring threads - so it is Chit Chat type RP. :)
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 371 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 18:47
Re: OOC 3
Yes, for sure, everybody is welcome --  in fact, it's the very rare fuzzy thread that would exclude anybody --   private threads are normally just that --  they can usually only be seen by characters in the group they belong to.
DM
 GM, 4085 posts
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 06:39
Re: OOC 3
I have added a couple of new conversation rooms for the wedding thread. First come, first served.  I'll add more when they are needed.
Marceline
 player, 221 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 20:35
Re: OOC 3
Will attempt to get into some of the fuzzy threads, but for both DMs sake and the Narlmarch crew; I am moving in a few weeks and have to start handling all of that nonsense, and if Marcy needs to be nudged to keep things going, I get it. The timing is awful but at least it's in theme with the year.
DM
 GM, 4091 posts
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 20:53
Re: OOC 3
Hope it all goes well for you :)
DM
 GM, 4092 posts
Sun 27 Sep 2020
at 15:29
Re: OOC 3
I have been thinking about demographics and racial distribution, on and off, for a while now - and finally got around to writing something down.

http://galinia.org.uk/demographics-2

As always, I am open to comments and suggestions before I copy it into the wiki and make it formal :P  So if there is something you think contradicts a background, or storyline -  let me know and I will change it.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 375 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sun 27 Sep 2020
at 21:40
Re: OOC 3
you don't suppose the groom and bride would be insulted by a basket of fresh fruits veggies for a wedding gift would they?"

Not at all insulted -  from a druid, it could be seen as a form of blessing, even.


So where's the guy with the peacock, anyway?

Oh, forget the guy - just bring in the bird!
~Big Job
 NPC e, 16 posts
 Bouncer: Bottled Nymph
 in Tusk
Sun 27 Sep 2020
at 22:33
Re: OOC 3
"Blue Chicken!  Tasty!"
DM
 GM, 4097 posts
Mon 28 Sep 2020
at 09:44
Re: OOC 3
You might have noticed a new RTJ notice at the top of the board :)  It was pointed out that we didn't have one -  and when I looked at the Character Creation notice it is a bit naff and a bit out  of date. Eventually, the new RTJ notice will replace it.

As always, any comments are welcome - from anyone.  You all applied to join the game at some point  ...
Cass Mordane
 Player, 680 posts
 Opportunist
Mon 28 Sep 2020
at 13:06
Re: OOC 3
Are you seeking new players are just putting it up for the next time that you do?
DM
 GM, 4099 posts
Mon 28 Sep 2020
at 13:43
Re: OOC 3
For next time :)  And there is bound to be a next time  :)  I just checked, the game started 4 years ago,  and we are less that halfway through the AP!

I might as well co it on Covid-time when I am stuck a home :)
DM
 GM, 4101 posts
Sat 3 Oct 2020
at 13:51
Re: OOC 3
If anyone is interested in what life is like for the average commoner who lives out in the sticks ...

http://galinia.org.uk/country-living-1
Cass Mordane
 Player, 685 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 20:24
Re: OOC 3
Adoven, The Iceman Cometh!
Kendrick Winters
 player, 522 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 00:11
Re: OOC 3
Just pointing out that we've 2 Character Creation threads.
The new, link to a message in this game
And the old, link to a message in this game

Not sure if you wanted to keep both separate or to combine them. Just pointing this out :)
I only see a few threads. Can't imagine how many the GM has on his screen. LOL.
DM
 GM, 4107 posts
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 07:47
Re: OOC 3
Thanks.    I am working through that whole thing slowly - I am still using the old page as a Guide, but I have moved it to a hidden group.

However, I have done more country living work over the weekend -  I find that type of mapping exercise relaxing.


http://galinia.org.uk/country-living-2

Note:  Roths' Hopyard doesn't actually look like that - it is an 'Artist's Impression' of what it could be like in the future.

If anyone would like to see a different type of hamlet, I might add it as example 3 :)

This message was last edited by the GM at 09:28, Mon 05 Oct 2020.

Marceline
 player, 224 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 01:02
Re: OOC 3
DM:
If anyone would like to see a different type of hamlet, I might add it as example 3 :)


Shakespeare joke here.

OR

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern (Are dead)
Kiera Raincutter-Solanus
 player, 264 posts
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 01:58
Re: OOC 3
The only new hamlet anybody ever really needs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1QSbz9wmm8
Marceline
 player, 226 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 02:00
Re: OOC 3
Yes!


Time for another round of 'Alas poor WHO?'
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 382 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 23:34
Re: OOC 3
I still remember...there's some old cartoon, where Shakespeare is telling his troubles to the characters, and Francis Bacon shows up unexpectedly.  Shakespere, stunned to see his nemesis, cries out:

"Bacon!"

And Bacon replies "With eggs!" which he then pelts Shakespeare with.
Maple
 player, 37 posts
Thu 8 Oct 2020
at 22:02
Re: OOC 3
I love the new articles, thank you :)
DM
 GM, 4111 posts
Thu 8 Oct 2020
at 22:11
Re: OOC 3
I am glad you enjoyed them.  I enjoyed writing them :)

However, I suspect I will no write the Hinterland Article just yet.  The more I think on it, I think kt would fit better with an Urban Living set :)
Tatyana
 player, 35 posts
Fri 9 Oct 2020
at 20:51
Re: OOC 3
Sorry for falling behind, September kind of kicked my butt, and while I'm hoping October will be better, it's not starting out any less busy just yet!
Rana Nervetti
 player, 35 posts
 Tavern wench?
 Perhaps not!
Fri 9 Oct 2020
at 21:38
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Sorry for falling behind, September kind of kicked my butt, and while I'm hoping October will be better, it's not starting out any less busy just yet!


Glad to see you!  I was beginning to think that Rana was failing in her personal hygiene routine!
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 494 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 00:58
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Sorry for falling behind, September kind of kicked my butt, and while I'm hoping October will be better, it's not starting out any less busy just yet!


For what it's worth, I don't really know you and I don't really have reason to. But you are welcome here, and your problem is no stranger to most here I'd assume. The generalities, if not the specifics.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1053 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 15:34
Re: OOC 3
Stupid knowledge checks ... maybe we need some sort of an untrained knowledge check to know which knowledge skill we need to use to identify an unknown monster ... or a new skill, Knowledge (knowledge)?  ;o)
DM
 GM, 4118 posts
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 15:52
Re: OOC 3
*cough* *cough* Planes *cough*

I think that (and Nobility) is the only check the group hasn't made yet.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 524 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 21:46
Re: OOC 3
I've got knowledge nobility!
Cass Mordane
 Player, 691 posts
 Opportunist
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 21:53
Re: OOC 3
Save your roll .

I can affirm that the thing was a Royal Pain.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 795 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 22:02
Re: OOC 3
DM:
*cough* *cough* Planes *cough*

I think that (and Nobility) is the only check the group hasn't made yet.

I don't know Planes, but I'm learning about balloons. Is that close enough???
Maple
 player, 39 posts
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 22:12
Re: OOC 3
Apologies to anyone who I'v kept waiting. It appears that I may have contracted covid and am having issues
Cass Mordane
 Player, 692 posts
 Opportunist
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 22:13
Re: OOC 3
Take care of yourself. Speedy recovery!
Kendrick Winters
 player, 526 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 22:20
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
DM:
*cough* *cough* Planes *cough*

I think that (and Nobility) is the only check the group hasn't made yet.

I don't know Planes, but I'm learning about balloons. Is that close enough???


Better starting learning about the plane of air. Or else you'll be hitting the plane of ground fast :)
Kendrick Winters
 player, 527 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 22:21
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Cass Mordane (msg # 334):

Ditto!
Get better.
DM
 GM, 4119 posts
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 23:00
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Maple (msg # 333):

Get well soon.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 37 posts
 Tavern wench?
 Perhaps not!
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 05:47
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Maple (msg # 333):

Get well soon, Maple.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 693 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 06:07
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Sorry for falling behind, September kind of kicked my butt, and while I'm hoping October will be better, it's not starting out any less busy just yet!


You are still more than welcome to join us in the Fuzzy: The Wedding Party - Reception thread
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1055 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 10:11
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Maple (msg # 333):

Very sorry to hear that, Maple. I hope yours is only a mild case and you get well soon.
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 455 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 13:35
Re: OOC 3
I had my Covid test today, currently in quarentine mid interstate moove.  Not the funnest thing I have experienced.  Get better soon Maple.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 391 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 16:56
Re: OOC 3
Yes, very best wishes to Maple, Domitius, anyone else in any way effected by C19 --  while it touches some lightly, it is catastrophic for others, nothing to treat lightly.

I don't work directly in the medical field, but my job touches on it, as a medical recruiter.    I've heard many disturbing stories from different sorts of professionals, at this point.
DM
 GM, 4120 posts
Mon 12 Oct 2020
at 11:09
Re: OOC 3
And now there is another Country Living post in the Blog!

http://galinia.org.uk/country-living-4-people

I love it when someone says something, or asks a question, that sends me off down a rabbit hole.
Maple
 player, 41 posts
Mon 12 Oct 2020
at 18:26
Re: OOC 3
Thank you very much for the concerns all. I will keep updated but I'm sure I'll be fine. :)
DM
 GM, 4122 posts
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 06:43
Re: OOC 3
Players who have been in the game for a while, will know that I normally host my wife's birthday dungeon at this time of year.  A whole weekend of old-skool tabletop that runs from Friday evening through to Sunday lunchtime.  Unfortunately, that won't be happening this year - Covid has interrupted a lot of things.

However, we are going to Blackpool, to see the illuminations, instead.  I leave Sunday and get back the following Saturday - but should have internet in the hotel - but I won't have  all of my reference material with me.  So, that week will be general updates with little detail.

I will get updates into each of the threads on either Friday or Saturday this week,
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 495 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 12:50
Re: OOC 3
No problem, enjoy Blackpool!
Marceline
 player, 228 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 00:50
Re: OOC 3
Feels like this last couple of weeks has been crazy for everyone. I damn near broke my foot while packing - dropped a box on it. Nothing broken, foot or packing wise but what a thing to happen.
~Sophia Ironsky
 NPCe, 1 post
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 01:48
Re: OOC 3
Moving is dangerous.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1058 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 14:14
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Marceline (msg # 347):

That sounds like me! I dropped a 1 litre tin of paint at the hardware store on Saturday. Instinctively stuck my foot under it to save it. Damn lucky the rounded side of the tin hit my foot instead of the rim. Same result - nothing broken - foot or tin. Talk about dumb luck.
Marceline
 player, 229 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 20:41
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Andalon de Lebeda (msg # 349):

The 'catching things with your foot' reflex is the best and worst thing, but at least we can do the sore-foot shuffle. Dumb luck is sometimes the best luck.
Tatyana
 player, 37 posts
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 21:34
Re: OOC 3
I have the exact opposite reflex. Anything drops within about a metre of me, I'm jumping back and letting it smash.

I don't know what that says about me...

Maple! take care of yourself please! I hope you're feeling better.
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 443 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 11:19
Re: OOC 3
Oh, my first instinct is feet first too.  Luckily my reactions have slowed with age, as I've dropped a couple of kitchen knives recently ...

So no injuries to report here and much sympathy for those who did get a foot in harms way - and glad you survived relatively unscathed !  :>

Also belated sympathies and good wishes extended to those hit with COVID.  Hang in there !  And if you're up to it, online gaming has isolation covered !
Maple
 player, 45 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 15:17
Re: OOC 3
So update with the whole covid issue, seems im recovering. I should be online more now that I'm feeling better.
DM
 GM, 4131 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 15:20
Re: OOC 3
Good to hear  that you are recovering well.
DM
 GM, 4132 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 15:23
Re: OOC 3
Unfortunately Khora has left the game due to personal reasons.  I have told the player that they are welcome to return later.

Now I have to be extra careful not to kill Rana and Tatyana!
Rana Nervetti
 player, 41 posts
 Tavern wench?
 Perhaps not!
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 20:16
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Unfortunately Khora has left the game due to personal reasons.  I have told the player that they are welcome to return later.

Now I have to be extra careful not to kill Rana and Tatyana!


:(  Sad to see that Khora has left ... and not being killed would be a benefit!
Tatyana
 player, 38 posts
Sat 17 Oct 2020
at 02:41
Re: OOC 3
Aw, come back when you can Khora!

I've kind of restricted myself to the investigation scene as I just haven't had time for posting at the wedding apart from that initial introduction, and now I've fallen hopelessly behind. But I'm still here for the detective stuff!

So glad to hear you're feeling better and recovering, Maple. Keep taking it easy, I hear it takes a while to get completely over the damn virus.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:41, Sat 17 Oct 2020.

DM
 GM, 4133 posts
Sat 17 Oct 2020
at 07:11
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Tatyana (msg # 357):

The last post directed at you in the wedding threads was an invitation to join Rana and Big Job in the hotel reception thread.

They are chatting to Cass, Robert and Tic.

It would be perfectly acceptable for you to turn up with a "Sorry, I got distracted ..."  type post.
DM
 GM, 4134 posts
Sat 17 Oct 2020
at 08:59
Re: OOC 3
And a change of Holiday plan.  Blackpool, and the whole county, has just been declared a very high Covid risk area and put into a high 'lock down' state.  So that trip has been cancelled, and we will only be going away for a few days mid-week now.

Adventure thread posts will now be spread across the weekend as normal.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 46 posts
 Tavern wench?
 Perhaps not!
Sat 17 Oct 2020
at 13:50
Re: OOC 3
DM:
In reply to Tatyana (msg # 357):

The last post directed at you in the wedding threads was an invitation to join Rana and Big Job in the hotel reception thread.

They are chatting to Cass, Robert and Tic.

It would be perfectly acceptable for you to turn up with a "Sorry, I got distracted ..."  type post.


Yes, Tatyana ... please join us and save me from myself! :)
Tatyana
 player, 40 posts
Mon 19 Oct 2020
at 21:38
Re: OOC 3
I'll try to find some time, but have to run for a bit now that I've posted something in the investigation thread.

Do you want us to roll diplomacy? Or do you do that GM? Either way, I can try to assist Rana (I'm sure she's more diplomatic than my +6!)
DM
 GM, 4141 posts
Mon 19 Oct 2020
at 21:42
Re: OOC 3
You are welcome to join the wedding:reception thread  IF it is convenient and you want to.  There is no requirement.  We all understand RL comes first.

You can roll if you like -  or else I  will  'take 10' on your behalf :)

This message was last edited by the GM at 21:42, Mon 19 Oct 2020.

Vova doMedvyed
 player, 29 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 02:42
Re: OOC 3

 I don't think those of us not in the larger game proper yet get downtime, do we?
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 395 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 02:53
Re: OOC 3
I'm rather certain, the GM invited all of you new folks to participate..  Downtime is usually open to all characters playing in the current period.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 698 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 03:54
Re: OOC 3
Downtime is your opportunity to do a little side role play to please the DM and gain a little extra XP. It is his opportunity to just read and enjoy without having to orchestrate. So feel free to join in.
DM
 GM, 4143 posts
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 06:29
Re: OOC 3
Yep.  Downtime is there for everyone.

In some respects, it is pretty much as Cass said -  In other ways it is a chance for you guys to write about your characters, explore them a bit or let others see further into your characterization / background.  It is also a chance to practice craft skills etc.

You  get XP for all sorts of things in this game. While most of your XP comes from adventuring, you also get XP for RP (in both the adventure and fuzzy threads) as well as participation in the campaign system.  Just this week, I gave a Character a 50xp RP bonus for a single post in an adventure thread that fitted the situation perfectly and made me grin.

A single post award is rare, it normally takes a series of posts to trigger an XP award. 

Time is an issue in a large game with multiple groups and a campaign system that gives you bonuses based on business developments.  We use Fuzzy:Time  threads  (such as the Wedding threads) to let characters meet up, form relationships and interact  across groups.  Adventuring parties are rarely 'in-town' at the same time, and concluding 'adventures' at the same time is a nightmare!

A 'game year' lasts 6 RL months - Downtime comes around every 3 RL months or so.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 49 posts
 Tavern wench?
 Perhaps not!
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 07:29
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
....
Do you want us to roll diplomacy? Or do you do that GM? Either way, I can try to assist Rana (I'm sure she's more diplomatic than my +6!)


You might be surprised!
DM
 GM, 4148 posts
Sun 25 Oct 2020
at 07:53
Re: OOC 3
I am getting 502 and 504 gateway errors all the time - and the site is generally very, very slow.

It has been raised on all the reporting and technical boards.  So all we can do is wait for it to be fixed.  I guess Jase has will be chasing the hosts soon -  if he hasn't started already :)
Kiera Raincutter-Solanus
 player, 272 posts
Sun 25 Oct 2020
at 10:23
Re: OOC 3
Moving a lot faster now- I guess the hamsters in the server must have gotten their pizza and beer!

...and now I'm giggling because I'm imagining hamsters eating pizza and drinking beer.
Marceline
 player, 232 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Sun 25 Oct 2020
at 20:17
Re: OOC 3
I miss Pizza and Beer.

Apologies to DM and group 2, at the last leg of moving - the actual move. Boxes are everywhere, movers are coming in a few days, there's so must dust, my body hurts.
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 459 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Mon 26 Oct 2020
at 12:01
Re: OOC 3
I'm also moving so I know what you are going through.  Plus a storm screwed the internet for the last couple of days and only just getting back online now.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 31 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 23:04
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 366):

 Understood. Unfortunately, I don't really have anything yet... Not without being a little more grounded in the game and the world. Hopefully, once I start to meet people and do things, with a sense of where Vova is and what's going on, I can spread him out some.

 I could write a vignette piece of Vova waking up in a gutter somewhere, but I'm not even entirely certain where we are in a larger sense, so I'm going to hold off until I do. ^_^
DM
 GM, 4153 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 23:28
Re: OOC 3
That's cool.  Everything is optional :)  Even adventuring, although I don't run Fuzzy threads all the time.

You could, if you wanted to, write a piece on Vova waking up in the gutter on the trip here.  Or even before the trip here started.  Downtime is (within reason) yours to play with :)

This message was last edited by the GM at 14:16, Fri 30 Oct 2020.

DM
 GM, 4158 posts
Fri 30 Oct 2020
at 14:19
Re: OOC 3
I am going to close down all the wedding party threads and the downtime thread next weekend.

I'll open up a  Fuzzy Mithral Dining room  instead.  Along with the Dragon's and Nerid's threads that will give  three threads for people to run Fuzzy RP, if you want to.
Marceline
 player, 233 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 02:45
Re: OOC 3
I'm gonna attempt to make a couple posts in there before they close, because there's some surrealism to gatherings being fantasy these days, but only if I don't die from having spent the last 12 hours moving. I can't believe how badly everything hurts.
DM
 GM, 4159 posts
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 06:54
Re: OOC 3
Marceline:
I can't believe how badly everything hurts.


{{{{HUGS}}}}
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 404 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 19:47
Re: OOC 3
Oh wow, rest up Marceline!   You've earned it.

GM, by next weekend, did you mean the current weekend (you posted that on friday), or that we have one more week, yet?   I say we've gotten our money's worth out of the threads -   but I've got one final item (maybe two) before we close, though suppose I can use the dining thread, if need be.

Happy Halloween, pathfinder pumpkins!
DM
 GM, 4160 posts
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 21:20
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Alisa Medvyed-Solanus (msg # 377):

You have a week left in the wedding Party threads
Marceline
 player, 234 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 19:28
Re: OOC 3
I's not so much the moving that was awful so much as the reminder that I don't have the youth I used to and my body is now just stiffness and pain, so recovery day! plus extra!
Tatyana
 player, 43 posts
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 03:39
Re: OOC 3
So, it was a good workout then?
Tatyana
 player, 44 posts
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 03:40
Re: OOC 3
Also, not sure what it was, but something made me think about this meme...


Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1071 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 12:09
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Vova doMedvyed (msg # 372):

Nice work over in the Down Time thread, Vova. That was certainly worth the wait. :o)
_ Wyn Roth
 NPC, 26 posts
 Co-Owner: Dragons Den
 in Tusk
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 12:21
Re: OOC 3
I'm still waiting to see Berta's reaction to it  :)
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 34 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 19:17
Re: OOC 3

 Oh hell, I forgot that they were in the Bogside thread! I just lifted the names from the bandit camp in Kingmaker! ^_^
_ Wyn Roth
 NPC, 27 posts
 Co-Owner: Dragons Den
 in Tusk
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 19:25
Re: OOC 3
*grin*  I meant

Link back to this game=

She is the bouncer (among other things) at the Dragon's Den
DM
 GM, 4161 posts
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 20:06
Re: OOC 3
I've been thinking about Royal and Noble titles today ....

http://galinia.org.uk/royal-noble-titles
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 35 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Wed 4 Nov 2020
at 05:36
Re: OOC 3
In reply to _ Wyn Roth (msg # 385):

 Law of unexpected consequence, that. ^_^
DM
 GM, 4162 posts
Wed 4 Nov 2020
at 12:20
Re: OOC 3
And now I have been thinking about Entourage-Cousins again Entourage-Cousins may advance into a prestige class, IF they meet the prerequisites. They don't have to, of course, and almost all of them will be able to perform their roles with their normal NPC class.  However, some people like to add RP-flavour to their game - either way works OK.

Not all PRC classes are suitable for NPCs though -  in fact there are only a few that look suitable to me.  And some of those need lots of levels to qualify for - especially for an NPC class.  And stay-at-home NPCs level very slowly ...

So here are my thoughts on Entourage-Cousins and Prestige Classes.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....and_prestige_classes
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1072 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 13:06
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 386):
Woohoo! Ten years from now, when I am old and slow, I'm going to be a turtle! :o)
DM
 GM, 4163 posts
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 13:42
Re: OOC 3
I shall tell Leonardo, Raphael, Donatello & Michelangelo that they are old and slow!
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 500 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 23:02
Re: OOC 3
Perhaps it's impatient of me but it has been several days DM are you going to npc Pipre this round to move combat along?
DM
 GM, 4164 posts
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 23:16
Re: OOC 3
Probably tomorrow :)
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 501 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 23:22
Re: OOC 3
I should say I like Pipre and hope she is alright. Just wondering how my disarm went
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 804 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 23:28
Re: OOC 3
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud:
I should say I like Pipre and hope she is alright. Just wondering how my disarm went

I'm just glad that you're back as a PC.
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 502 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 23:32
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven Lodovka-Sud (msg # 394):

Glad to be back, excited for a little plotting I'm doing. Anything I can do to be helpful Adoven?
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 463 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Fri 6 Nov 2020
at 11:42
Re: OOC 3
Hey just wannted to say sorry I haven't been around as much as I woild like.  Moved interstate and have been living out of hotel rooms for a month.  I havejust moved into my own place on the sunny Gold Coast of Queensland here in Australia,  hope
Ing to have the internet set up soon so I can get back into things properly.
DM
 GM, 4165 posts
Fri 6 Nov 2020
at 11:53
Re: OOC 3
Good to hear that you are getting things sorted out.  Moving can be a pain .....
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 805 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 6 Nov 2020
at 11:54
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Viktoria Lodovka-Sud (msg # 395):

Vik, my darling, is there any deity you wish to erect a Holy House to? If funds permit, I plan to build a 2nd Holy house, a Luxury Store, and a Bardic College next turn. Each will generate BPs that can be converted to gold without sacrificing properties or businesses within Tusk. This gives us the means to 'get our foot in the door' at Mivon and Restov.
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 503 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Fri 6 Nov 2020
at 12:07
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven Lodovka-Sud (msg # 398):

Well my personal faith is to Gorum (did that feature anywhere in our nuptials?) so I don't know if that's going to fly. If it would, great! But otherwise we should probably stick to erecting houses for deities who espouse peace and commerce and stability . . .
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 806 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 6 Nov 2020
at 12:09
Re: OOC 3
Isn't Gorum a builder-god, a Craftsman?
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 504 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Fri 6 Nov 2020
at 12:16
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven Lodovka-Sud (msg # 400):

Certainly, from specific views. Forging armours and weapons, organizing mercenaries and warriors. His faithful must keep their arms and armour well-cared and free of rust, after all.
_ Borric d'Cordain
 NPC x, 98 posts
 Chief Magistrate
 of Midmarch
Fri 6 Nov 2020
at 12:25
Re: OOC 3
While others might say that Gorum is a chaotic, warmongering bar-steward.
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 505 posts
 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Fri 6 Nov 2020
at 12:26
Re: OOC 3
In reply to _ Borric d'Cordain (msg # 402):

I'm just trying to make it palatable for my husband sir
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 507 posts
 31/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 12:48
Re: OOC 3
Confused by new map does this mean the enemies left our reach and if so were they 5ft steps or more?
DM
 GM, 4172 posts
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 12:54
Re: OOC 3
That was why I was so annoyed by the map, and gave you the opportunity to rewrite your posts.  I was getting 502 errors yesterday, so it might have been a failed upload.  Mt fault anyway, because I didn't check

They were all 5ft steps apart from the guard who moved to a25, and wasn't in AOO range of anybody.
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 508 posts
 31/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 15:57
Re: OOC 3
Werid when I checked again after breakfast it's back to the old map again for me . . . I already edited my action based on the new map so no worries there but that's strange.
DM
 GM, 4176 posts
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 16:16
Re: OOC 3
I'll check again ...
DM
 GM, 4177 posts
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 16:17
Re: OOC 3
Phew!  I'm still seeing the new one.
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 509 posts
 31/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 16:38
Re: OOC 3
Laptop I see the old one, mobile I see the new one. Strange
Marik
 Player, 310 posts
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 16:41
Re: OOC 3
Sometimes you have to reload the page and clear cache to see the new map. On the laptop, try Ctrl-F5 to do a complete reload.
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 510 posts
 31/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 16:45
Re: OOC 3
Perfect, that worked
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 409 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 18:32
Re: OOC 3
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus:
Hey just wannted to say sorry I haven't been around as much as I woild like.  Moved interstate and have been living out of hotel rooms for a month.


Gold Coast is a lovely name -  so had to google, "famed for its long sandy beaches, surfing spots and elaborate system of inland canals and waterways."

Sounds awesome!  Hope you're loving the new digs...
Marik
 Player, 312 posts
Sun 8 Nov 2020
at 04:59
Re: OOC 3
For those interested, I finally got my post updated in the Player Information II thread.
DM
 GM, 4182 posts
Sun 8 Nov 2020
at 15:36
Re: OOC 3
So now for something slightly different.

Does anyone fancy taking over the running of House Yitis trading in Tusk?

Before you get too excited  ...  It must be run as a separate entity -  that means that none of the income comes to your main character, and your main character doesn't get any special deals from House Yitis.  However, you get to represent House Yitis in meetings and at events, and to negotiate on their behalf, for building etc.  You will get 'broad direction' from House Yitis in Mivon, but how you interpret that, is up to you.

This position is NOT open to anyone who currently holds  an interest in a merchant house.

I am thinking of starting a Merchant-Venturers guild, based in Tusk, to co-ordinate merchant activity across the region.  WSM, V&A, DELEM, Safiya and Marik  (who all have some merchant interests) would have a place in the guild anyway.
DM
 GM, 4194 posts
Tue 10 Nov 2020
at 11:28
Re: OOC 3
And  I am back to 'catching up' from the recent political changes.  There is a new religions page at ...

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ion:southernreligion

If I have missed anything from your holdings, or characters -  please let me know and I will amend the page.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1076 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Wed 11 Nov 2020
at 13:57
Re: OOC 3
You should add a brief description of Kunlun on that page on Religion in the Southern Region.

Probably should mention the Southern Religious Council as well.
DM
 GM, 4198 posts
Wed 11 Nov 2020
at 14:31
Re: OOC 3
Good call!
Tatyana
 player, 46 posts
Fri 13 Nov 2020
at 20:17
Re: OOC 3
Sorry Rana, fell behind again at the outpost. Caught up now, I think...
Rana Nervetti
 player, 57 posts
 Tavern wench?
 Perhaps not!
Fri 13 Nov 2020
at 22:26
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Sorry Rana, fell behind again at the outpost. Caught up now, I think...


That's okay!  Life happens, to paraphrase a common saying.  Just glad to see that you're back!
DM
 GM, 4211 posts
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 14:54
Re: OOC 3
Bear with me if I am extra grumpy at the moment.

I have a new phone, new provider and a new service provider  (the old phone and provider were misbehaving.  Lost all my contacts a number of times)  Now trying to configure all the android apps ...  (Don't suggest iPhones -  you have even less control over the way their phones handle personal data!)

It is Tax Returns time as well

To cap it all, Paypal suddenly got fussy about 2-factor authentication -  and that is taking much longer to manage than it ought to.  Just as I am thinking about buying Xmas presents online ....

Rum has formed a large part of my 'prepare for bed' routine recently.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 706 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 15:04
Re: OOC 3
Maybe it should become part of your ‘Prepare for the day’ routine as well.

Good luck. You’ll get it all sorted out in time. Technology just likes to remind us that it can be a curse as well as a blessing sometimes. So I just curse right along with it.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 707 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 15:06
Re: OOC 3
Oh, and speaking of British cursing, I highly recommend the Alex Verus audiobook series. I think the narrator sounds a bit like Michael Caine.
DM
 GM, 4212 posts
Wed 18 Nov 2020
at 13:50
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Cass Mordane (msg # 422):


I have started to prep for the next Campaign Round -  which starts in 4-5 weeks.

Your Income for the year is recorded in The Character Information II thread. If you want my thoughts on your plans -  or even some suggestions ...  PM me.

While I expect to be away for the couple of weeks after Xmas  (Covid willing) I want to start some Fuzzy Threads when I get back  :)

Anybody got any thoughts?  Remember that Fuzzy Threads must be risk free, so only take you to  safe places.  They are open to anyone, and must be available as a group activity :P -  and That I will only run two separate threads at the same time.
_ Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 NPC x, 996 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 19 Nov 2020
at 22:38
Re: OOC 3
I have returned. I am catching up on all that I have missed over my extended absence, but I am looking forward to writing with you all!
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 512 posts
 25/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Thu 19 Nov 2020
at 22:51
Re: OOC 3
In reply to _ Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari (msg # 424):

Welcome back Cyrus, I am also returned!
Kendrick Winters
 player, 535 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Thu 19 Nov 2020
at 22:51
Re: OOC 3
In reply to _ Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari (msg # 424):

Welcome back Lord Commander!
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 467 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Thu 19 Nov 2020
at 23:58
Re: OOC 3
Welcome back, I'm sure there will be things we will need to discuss.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 997 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Fri 20 Nov 2020
at 11:38
Re: OOC 3
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus:
Welcome back, I'm sure there will be things we will need to discuss.


Sounds good! I can have Cyrus appear in one of the fuzzy threads so we can discuss in public or feel free to PM.
_ Valoria Lebeda-Ondari
 NPC x, 304 posts
 Lady Ringbridge
 Wizard
Fri 20 Nov 2020
at 12:11
Re: OOC 3
*grins*  However, I will moderate any decisions etc, until Cyrus is properly up to again  :)
DM
 GM, 4216 posts
Fri 20 Nov 2020
at 16:59
Re: OOC 3
For those of you who own/run cities, towns, settlements etc -  your finances spreadsheets are now online.


Tusk & Silverton http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ernregion:tusk:start


Everywhere else http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....egion:midmarch:start
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 444 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Sat 21 Nov 2020
at 09:21
Re: OOC 3
In reply to _ Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari (msg # 424):

"It is good to see you again, my friend !"


Percy raises his walking stick in salute to his old comrade in arms, a nostalgic smile upon the young noble's face.
DM
 GM, 4219 posts
Sat 21 Nov 2020
at 10:25
Re: OOC 3
And now a bit more of Dwarves, as I start to document their position in  the game.

http://galinia.org.uk/dwarves-of-brevoy

As always, that is an overview and is open to modification, and extra detail, before it gets transferred to the game's website -  when it becomes much more  'fixed'.

Gandred, Hargrym, Valguard and Lutz are all mentioned in the text - their views are particularly welcome  :)
~Darius
 NPC e, 21 posts
 Scribe, Carouser
 Marik's Advocate
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 22:26
Re: OOC 3
Umm, so are the Roth's just ignoring Darius in the Dragon's Den?
DM
 GM, 4223 posts
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 22:42
Re: OOC 3
Nope.  I think your post  just got caught up in a cross-post and a series of PMs.  :)

I am sure Berta will insult you (as she does everyone)  later today  :)
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 421 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 23:23
Re: OOC 3
This sounds like an epic adventure in the making!

I'm already imagining it as a published adventure path, with titles the likes of Dark Ale Destiny -  or Shrooms of Doom.   ;)
~Darius
 NPC e, 22 posts
 Scribe, Carouser
 Marik's Advocate
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 23:26
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Nope.  I think your post  just got caught up in a cross-post and a series of PMs.  :)

I am sure Berta will insult you (as she does everyone)  later today  :)


I guess my issue is that he spoke directly to them, and then they just kept talking as if he's not there. So either I have to assume in character they blatantly ignored him, or basically just pretend like he didn't say anything.
DM
 GM, 4224 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 06:55
Re: OOC 3
~Darius:
I guess my issue is that he spoke directly to them, and then they just kept talking as if he's not there. So either I have to assume in character they blatantly ignored him, or basically just pretend like he didn't say anything.


My last post in here  was, literally, as I closed my PC down on the way to bed - and that was (something like) going to work first thing in the morning time, for Berta :)  Your post, was a cross post with mine.  There was a PM in there that you couldn't see - and another PM in Berta's post.

I didn't see a red light on that thread, all the way through the evening, I didn't see Berta's post until your post here brought it to my attention.  Unfortunately, that is the way things go on RPoL every so often.
DM
 GM, 4226 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 09:34
Re: OOC 3
A discussion, yesterday evening, highlighted that I had not brought the Leadership Feat in line with the Campaign Rules.

The new version of my House Ruled Leadership Feat is, in many ways, now an upgrade to the Entourage Feat  (that you all get as a Bonus feat)

Leadership Feat - http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....inder:fst:leadership
Entourage Feat - http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ms2:people:entourage
~Berta Roth
 NPC p, 76 posts
 Human Female Dragonfriend
 Let's do it my way
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 13:58
Re: OOC 3
In reply to ~Darius (msg # 436):

Apologies from the player who will confess he saw "NPC" (hah, I've got one too on mine, didn't realise !) and figured it was the GM (no, I didn't get as far as "Marik's advocate") giving us an option in relation to that PM discussion we were having behind the curtain - so your timing was either very good or very bad, depending on how you look at it.  <grins>

But anyone who knows Berta (as a character) will know that she'd not take kindly to interruptions when she's talking earnestly with her brothers, and naturally assumes all remarks about her appearance to be sarcasm.  ;>

Turning her attention to Darius right now ...
DM
 GM, 4227 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 15:41
Re: OOC 3
DM:
I am sure Berta will insult you (as she does everyone)  later today  :)


I did warn you  :)
~Darius
 NPC e, 24 posts
 Scribe, Carouser
 Marik's Advocate
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 18:26
Re: OOC 3
No worries, his words were intended to elicit a response... :)
DM
 GM, 4228 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 21:38
Re: OOC 3
And I have been busy again.  Lockdown is both a blessing and a curse ...

This time I have modified the descriptions of Sword Schools  (Colleges & Academies)  to talk about the types of troop they can train.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....sations#descriptions
Marik Aeris
 Player, 319 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 22:01
Re: OOC 3
Perfect, this helps with my upcoming plans...
DM
 GM, 4229 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 22:28
Re: OOC 3
Excellent  :)  I have had the concept in my head for a while.  Just never quite got around to writing it down.

It doesn't affect what sort of troops people get in their Def buildings, but it does add a way to get a bit of extra flavour into the campaign system.
Marik Aeris
 Player, 320 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 22:40
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Excellent  :)  I have had the concept in my head for a while.  Just never quite got around to writing it down.

It doesn't affect what sort of troops people get in their Def buildings, but it does add a way to get a bit of extra flavour into the campaign system.


I would assume though that a Sword School, college, or Academy could take their defense point(s) in the type of troop they specialize in training if they so choose. For example, if a Sword School specialized in training scouts, they could take the troops that building's defense point "earns" as a scouts. Or if a Military College specializes in scouts and chasseurs, that could take 1 defense point worth of each. Is that correct?
DM
 GM, 4230 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 23:03
Re: OOC 3
Nope  :)

The defence points for the training establishment are Sell Swords -  those are the guys who are in their final year of training, but haven't developed all of their professional skills yet  :)

It doesn't make any difference to the Mass Combat rules, nor their ability to patrol their local area -  after all, they need to train in the type of area they will be working in.  BUT they haven't gained all of their skills yet.
Marik Aeris
 Player, 321 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 23:07
Re: OOC 3
Ah, okay. I thought the defense points represented the instructors at the school, not the students.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 823 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 23:21
Re: OOC 3
Can a Military Academy include the Military college so that 'lower division' and 'upper division' courses are both taught there? Thinking of expanding my College to an Academy, unless it has to be built separately?
DM
 GM, 4231 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 23:35
Re: OOC 3
A Sword School gets one specialism, a college two and an Academy three specialisms. For example :-
  • A sword school specializes in City Guards.
  • When it upgrades to a college, it still trains guards, but adds marines as well (for example).
  • Later it upgrades to an academy and decides to add Caravan Guards to the list -  it now turns out City Guards, Marines and Caravan Guards.


Was that what you meant?
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 824 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Wed 25 Nov 2020
at 07:29
Re: OOC 3
Yes. So my College turns out Light Foot. If I expand it to an Academy it'll turn out Light Foot and Heavy Cavalry, for example.
DM
 GM, 4232 posts
Wed 25 Nov 2020
at 07:41
Re: OOC 3
No.  Just individual light troop types :(  Heavier troops are all veterans, or advanced characters of some type, and cost extra BP to employ.

So Marines and Chasseurs would work -  or  private guards and scouts  etc.

That said, your Sell Swords can go into any area and finish their specialist training 'on the job'  :)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 825 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Wed 25 Nov 2020
at 07:52
Re: OOC 3
So, an Academy can turn out 3 types? Sell swords, Light Foot, and Marines, perhaps?
DM
 GM, 4233 posts
Wed 25 Nov 2020
at 08:09
Re: OOC 3
yes - ish.

Every School, College or Academy turns out Sell Swords - that is just a name I am using for minimally trained L3 warriors who leave to go and complete their training in the job.  It means that there are always 'troops' available (even when there isn't a school training for that specific profession)
  • A school can turn out one more type -  Sell Swords and City Guards (perhaps)
  • Upgrade to a college could give you -  Sell Swords, City Guards and Marines
  • Upgrade to an Academy and you might choose to train - Sell Swords, City Guards, Marines and Private Guards

~Elkin
 NPC e, 24 posts
Wed 25 Nov 2020
at 11:41
Re: OOC 3

This message was deleted by the player at 11:42, Wed 25 Nov 2020.

~Elkin
 NPC e, 25 posts
 Mordanian
Wed 25 Nov 2020
at 11:42
Re: OOC 3
https://www.pngkit.com/bigpic/u2e6t4w7u2w7u2e6/

A lightfoot* marine sell sword.






*Halfling
DM
 GM, 4235 posts
Wed 25 Nov 2020
at 12:02
Re: OOC 3
Very possibly - although only for a halfling with their own swordschool ....
DM
 GM, 4238 posts
Fri 27 Nov 2020
at 08:09
Re: OOC 3
In response to a comment by Cass I have 'tweaked' the civic buildings list, to give a wider spread of developments and (perhaps) make balancing easier.


NEW - Well (stab+1)
NEW - Office of Public Works (Stab+2)

Change - Dump now  stab+1 (no longer  Loy+1)
Change - Orphanage now Loy+2, Stab+1 (no longer  Loy+2, Stab+2)

Tusk and Ringbridge are affected by the Orphanage changes.  I will credit you both with 0.5bp and update your public spreadsheets)
DM
 GM, 4251 posts
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 12:18
Re: OOC 3
If you notice any issues with the website, please let me know.  I have just updated the PHP version, and while everything looks OK ....
Tatyana
 player, 51 posts
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 22:02
Re: OOC 3
Was that a physical dagger Mrs. Niska hit me with? Or that shining white floaty one? Because ow, 9 from a dagger, either Mrs. Niska is tougher than I thought or that's some dagger!

I should withdraw if I'm even remotely smart.

But am I?

If I step back from her, I'm safe to cast, right?
DM
 GM, 4253 posts
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 22:33
Re: OOC 3
That was a physical dagger.  :)

Assuming that she doesn't have Reach or Step Up -  you should be safe to cast if you take a 5ft step away from her.

If you move more than 5' and try to take an action (such as casting) she will get an Attack of Opportunity.  If you  make a full withdraw  (no other action)  you will be safe from an AoO.
Tatyana
 player, 52 posts
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 22:47
Re: OOC 3
Thinking of taking a 5 foot step and CLW myself. Hoping she doesn't run though!
DM
 GM, 4254 posts
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 22:51
Re: OOC 3
That grease spell saved you an awful lot of trouble  :)
Marik Aeris
 Player, 324 posts
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 22:51
Re: OOC 3
Grease, greatest 1st level spell in the game.
DM
 GM, 4255 posts
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 22:53
Re: OOC 3
Sometimes  :)

Vova just rocked with a Colour Spray / Mage Hand combination.
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 516 posts
 25/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 23:06
Re: OOC 3
Yeah I'd say Colour Spray has got me out of more jams than Grease
Marceline Gray
 player, 245 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 23:11
Re: OOC 3
Color Spray is an arcane workhorse and anybody that can take it, should.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 828 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 23:27
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Was that a physical dagger Mrs. Niska hit me with? Or that shining white floaty one? Because ow, 9 from a dagger, either Mrs. Niska is tougher than I thought or that's some dagger!

I should withdraw if I'm even remotely smart.

But am I?

If I step back from her, I'm safe to cast, right?

9 pts from a dagger is doable with finesse training or Slashing Grace and a high Dexterity.
DM
 GM, 4256 posts
Tue 1 Dec 2020
at 23:33
Re: OOC 3
*grin*  there are a number of ways it can be achieved.  All of them nasty  :)
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 41 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Wed 2 Dec 2020
at 04:21
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 464):

 The follow-up needed work though. But Vova also has Slippery Fun Gel Grease!
Tatyana
 player, 54 posts
Wed 2 Dec 2020
at 04:38
Re: OOC 3
DM:
*grin*  there are a number of ways it can be achieved.  All of them nasty  :)

Oh sure, all sorts of ways. I just wasn't expecting it from the farm owner! My last mistake!!!
Rana Nervetti
 player, 64 posts
 Tavern wench? Perhaps not
 Current AC = 16
Wed 2 Dec 2020
at 06:51
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Thinking of taking a 5 foot step and CLW myself. Hoping she doesn't run though!


I *think* that I'm now blocking her escape path!  Which could be good or really, really bad! :/
DM
 GM, 4262 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 09:39
Re: OOC 3
OK.  I have finally got the Dwarves page finished.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku...._land:brevoy:dwarves


There is lots of setting-background information linked from the main Gamer page -  although you vae to scroll down ...

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku.php?id=stolen_land:start
Rana Nervetti
 player, 66 posts
 Tavern wench? Perhaps not
 Current AC = 16
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 23:15
Re: OOC 3
Rana Nervetti:
Tatyana:
Thinking of taking a 5 foot step and CLW myself. Hoping she doesn't run though!


I *think* that I'm now blocking her escape path!  Which could be good or really, really bad! :/


Yep ... really really bad is the verdict.

At least it wasn't a tree!
DM
 GM, 4264 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 23:19
Re: OOC 3
Rana Nervetti:
At least it wasn't a tree!


This time .....
Tatyana
 player, 55 posts
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 05:02
Re: OOC 3
I'm confused... Rana's post makes it sound like she's dying, but DM post has her at 'moderately wounded'? Is she down and dying?
DM
 GM, 4268 posts
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 08:39
Re: OOC 3
My bad.  She is down and dying.  I will amend the post as necessary.
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 445 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 10:03
Re: OOC 3
Moderately down and dying, perhaps ?  :>
DM
 GM, 4269 posts
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 10:31
Re: OOC 3
~Percy Arndell:
Moderately down and dying, perhaps ?  :>

 Well, she does have a couple of rounds to go before she dies.  It isn't THAT serious.
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 446 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 10:36
Re: OOC 3
Barely worth mentioning.
DM
 GM, 4270 posts
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 13:57
Re: OOC 3
House Rules on Duelling ...

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....es:duelling#duelling

I am thinking of running a duelling competition, in Fuzzy threads, as we start the campaign round.

I am sure Henry can think of a half-decent prize ...
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 489 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 14:12
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 480):

Interesting, Lord Mordane should you choose to test the rules I do believe I could gind a willing opponent...
Minia
 Player, 49 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 22/18/14 hp 4/24
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 14:14
Re: OOC 3
I'm excited by this, though I think I'm likely to fall short against the other duelists so far!
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 830 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 14:15
Re: OOC 3
Aye, there's a few willing to test these rules.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1009 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 14:17
Re: OOC 3
No long swords???

What about a trident and net?
DM
 GM, 4271 posts
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 14:28
Re: OOC 3
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari:
No long swords???

What about a trident and net?



Nope.  This is Duelling, the art of fine swordplay -  not gladiatorial displays to sate the  blood-lust of an undiscerning audience.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 710 posts
 Opportunist
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 14:47
Re: OOC 3
My sword is ready to take on all comers.

This message was last edited by the player at 14:48, Mon 07 Dec 2020.

Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1010 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 7 Dec 2020
at 23:50
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 485):

Fair enough :)
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 428 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 00:33
Re: OOC 3
And, I've sworn an oath not to interrupt the fun ever again!


(yeah, but you know, oaths, made to be broken...)
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 490 posts
 Half Elf Fighter/Rogue
 AC:21 HP:38
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 00:58
Re: OOC 3
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus:
And, I've sworn an oath not to interrupt the fun ever again!


(yeah, but you know, oaths, made to be broken...)


It's a good thing Dom loves Alisa :)
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 429 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 01:30
Re: OOC 3
I'll be good.  I promise.      (meanwhile, printing up 'Duel Buster' t-shirts and coffee mugs, in a back room somewhere)
Maple
 player, 60 posts
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 01:39
Re: OOC 3
Creating public unrest? Sounds fun :)
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 430 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 02:09
Re: OOC 3
Yes, living dangerously is often fun.   Right up until the mob tars and feathers you.
DM
 GM, 4274 posts
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 11:08
Re: OOC 3
And now an NPC design challenge ...

I need a standard Duellist.  Design limitations are NPC class with Str-12, Dex-12, Con-12, Int-12, Wis-12, Cha-12.

At least one of the builds will go on this page http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ttroops#basic_troops in the Specialist Troops category.

There might be a small prize for the one I like best  :)
Kiera Raincutter-Solanus
 player, 287 posts
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 12:52
Re: OOC 3
I mean, just based on the feats alone, you could make all sorts of difficulty levels- account for different styles of weapons and fighting styles with a few different feat sets.

You might get a duelist who favors two-handed weapons that might take something like Power Attack if they're all about the muscle, or maybe another setup for someone who likes to use their fists or any other kind of weapon.

The only real drawback is a lot of these require INT of 13...

I mean, it's just a thought...
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 519 posts
 23/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 13:08
Re: OOC 3
No power attack, no dodge and no combat expertise. Not without either level up ability score increases or class features that ignore those prerequisites.

Also you neglected to mention a level you'd like that npc built to ;)
DM
 GM, 4275 posts
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 14:03
Re: OOC 3
Yes, on both counts.  I should have put some context in.


These aren't supposed to be good duellists, but they are the  'ordinary' students who leave a  duelling school at the end of their studies.  They are trained to fight and to fight duels -  BUT they won't be very good duellists.  They will be easy meat for a PC class character of the same level in a duel, BUT will (most probably) be a bit better than an ordinary soldier (in a duel).  :)

If they should progress  to be a L4 or 5 character, they might start to hold their own against vert junior PC duellists.


So - Level 3, stats all at 12 and an NPC class  :)

I know it is a strange exercise -  but it means ann extra bit of RP fluff comes available ...
DM
 GM, 4276 posts
Wed 9 Dec 2020
at 13:28
Re: OOC 3
And now another thought.  If you didn't see the post, part of the next set of Fuzzy threads will include a duelling competition.

I am going to impose a 1 Character per player rule (except in very exceptional circumstances)

However, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SUITABLE CHARACTER and want to take part in the competition, please PM me.  I have a couple of NPCs who would like to play -  OK they haven't been defined yet, and haven't yet come to the notice of the leaders of Tusk or Midmarch -  but they have been there, in the background, just waiting for their chance.

This message was last edited by the GM at 13:43, Wed 09 Dec 2020.

DM
 GM, 4286 posts
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 08:20
Re: OOC 3
I am setting up the next Campaign Round to start next weekend :)

Please check your entries in the Player Information II thread.  It should contain details of your character's aspirations -  and (more importantly at the moment) a summary of their  Financial position  (in Campaign Terms - not gear, WBL etc)
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 447 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 13:43
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 497):

Oh, if it wasn't for my bad leg ...

But if you need a judge for the duelling competition, Percy will reluctantly oblige. :>
DM
 GM, 4289 posts
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 14:34
Re: OOC 3
Thank you  :)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 835 posts
 HP 45 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard
Sun 20 Dec 2020
at 15:54
Re: OOC 3
If Kunlun is devoted to the Gods, will they accept a Holy house dedicated to Cayden?

Also, won't they need some Economy generated? Holy Temples add lots of Stability and Loyalty, and damn little Economy.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1016 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Sun 20 Dec 2020
at 16:27
Re: OOC 3
Ringbridge is always open to religious presence. ;)
DM
 GM, 4297 posts
Sun 20 Dec 2020
at 16:42
Re: OOC 3
If Kunlun is devoted to the Gods, will they accept a Holy house dedicated to Cayden?

A shrine, or great shrine perhaps - so long as the Religious Council doesn't object.


Also, won't they need some Economy generated? Holy Temples add lots of Stability and Loyalty, and damn little Economy.

Henry will pick that up and balance it across Midmarch - in the same way outpost, Junction, Bar-Z and the Narlemarch reserve is balanced.
Maple
 player, 62 posts
Mon 21 Dec 2020
at 23:03
Re: OOC 3
Hey, sorry I just sort of went silent for a couple of weeks, I am back :D
DM
 GM, 4305 posts
Mon 21 Dec 2020
at 23:22
Re: OOC 3
Good to see you back  :)
Tatyana
 player, 59 posts
Wed 23 Dec 2020
at 04:21
Re: OOC 3
I am also here, but hugely delayed this time of year. Not sure how much I'll be able to post again until 2021...

Merry Christmas all!
~Magatha Primrose
 NPC e, 17 posts
 Mordanian
Wed 23 Dec 2020
at 06:42
Re: OOC 3
Spend every BP you got and build in every spot!
DM
 GM, 4323 posts
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 08:30
Re: OOC 3
Happy Christmas folks :)
Domitius Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 502 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 09:11
Re: OOC 3
Merry Christmas all!
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1021 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 09:23
Re: OOC 3
Merry Christmas!
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1102 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 10:20
Re: OOC 3
Yes indeed, here's wishing for a very Merry Christmas for each and every one of us. :o)
Safiya Vallani
 player, 364 posts
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 11:22
Re: OOC 3
Happy holidays everyone.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 720 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 11:49
Re: OOC 3
Merry Christmas!
Kendrick Winters
 player, 546 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 15:30
Re: OOC 3
Merry Christmas!
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 50 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 16:49
Re: OOC 3

 Bah humbug! ^_^
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 524 posts
 14/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 04:44
Re: OOC 3
Merry Christmas
DM
 GM, 4324 posts
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 12:45
Re: OOC 3
For me, this is a short Christmas ....

For those of you with Military Aspirations, I  have been working on defining Defence Points a bit better.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....tems2:defence_points


And I will be refining the siege and home-defence elements of the Mass combat rules.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1022 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 13:18
Re: OOC 3
Cool! Can Heavy Troops also become a Calvary unit?
Marik Aeris
 Player, 329 posts
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 13:55
Re: OOC 3
I like it. Another question, have you thought at all about what upgrades to the specialized units would look like? For example veteran or elites scouts or marines?
DM
 GM, 4325 posts
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 14:39
Re: OOC 3
Not in any great depth.  There are a couple of examples of Veteran troops here

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....scombat:mediumtroops

BUT, I am happy to take builds that comply with the templates and add them to the lists.

Just remember that Marines aren't going to be wearing heavy armour ....
DM
 GM, 4326 posts
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 14:42
Re: OOC 3
Heavy Cavalry apply the Heavy troops AND the Cavalry template ....

Just remember they are heavy cavalry -  NOT knights.  PCs,  and higher level entourages etc (with PC or PRC classes) are Knights.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 51 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 21:07
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 520):

 Or at least, not for long... Although you could do amazing things with triton or lizardfolk marines. ^_^
DM
 GM, 4327 posts
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 22:51
Re: OOC 3
Vova doMedvyed:
... you could do amazing things with triton or lizardfolk marines. ^_^


You certainly could. Unfortunately, none of you know any of them  :)  I, on the other hand ....
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 439 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 26 Dec 2020
at 23:54
Re: OOC 3
And now, it's merry Aftermath:  from X-mas tree, to X-mas triage.

The cleanup, the returns, the sales, the allocation of leftovers...I well know the drill.    Where's Santa when you really need him?
Kendrick Winters
 player, 547 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sun 27 Dec 2020
at 00:31
Re: OOC 3
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari:
Cool! Can Heavy Troops also become a Calvary unit?


Let's go with one focuses on mounted tactics and the other in footed formations. Make each important in its own right.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 721 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 27 Dec 2020
at 01:01
Re: OOC 3
Heavy cavalry have more hit points, and are faster, but attack equal to medium troops. So a pretty significant payload, offset my the added BP costs.
DM
 GM, 4328 posts
Mon 28 Dec 2020
at 20:46
Re: OOC 3
I have just added a coat of Arms for House Aeris to the Heraldry page

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....gion:southernheraldy

I am happy to do the same for other  Houses or organisations.

Seeing as we have three different Pharasman orders (Mother Beatrix, Ethankos and Marceline) I think I  might create one for Mother Beatrix's order.

I am happy to create the image for you, if you give me a basic description (and aren't too fussy) although I am equally happy to upload yours.  (And  Dom sometimes volunteers as well)
DM
 GM, 4329 posts
Tue 29 Dec 2020
at 12:22
Re: OOC 3
I have been thinking about Defence Points, Armed Forces and other associated things ...

http://galinia.org.uk/the-armed-forces

Let me know if you have any thoughts on this - Preferably on the  blog, but posting here works just as well.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 722 posts
 Opportunist
Wed 30 Dec 2020
at 12:54
Re: OOC 3
I do have Craft Alchemy if needed for the wyvern s.
Marceline Gray
 player, 256 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Wed 30 Dec 2020
at 21:06
Re: OOC 3
Well those are darn fancy. Do we just PM you with image ideas if we think we have something suitable?
DM
 GM, 4335 posts
Wed 30 Dec 2020
at 21:12
Re: OOC 3
Marceline Gray:
Well those are darn fancy. Do we just PM you with image ideas if we think we have something suitable?



Yes :)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 850 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 33/45
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 08:47
Re: OOC 3
Happy New Year to ALL!!!!
DM
 GM, 4338 posts
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 09:01
Re: OOC 3
Happy New Year.  Let's hope it is a better year than the last.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 445 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sat 2 Jan 2021
at 19:17
Re: OOC 3
I see the list of cleric spells just keeps growing longer and longer.   Some of them, I'm tempted to take just for the freaking name.

How can you go wrong with 'Amplify Stench,' 'Flesh Puppet,' 'Sadomasochism' or 'Aura of Cannibalism?'
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 448 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 06:33
Re: OOC 3
<looks faintly sick and resolves never to sit next to Alisa>
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 55 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 07:10
Re: OOC 3

 I think my favourite spell name remains one in the old Dragon Warriors game:

 'Dishearten', which did exactly what it said on the tin if your magic defence didn't manage to block it. ^_^
DM
 GM, 4344 posts
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 07:45
Re: OOC 3
Games always get weirder and weirder as they try to find something else that people will pay money for.

One of these days I will create a CRB reference site, and tie my games to that, very little beyond that has really added to the Role Playing aspect of the game.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1110 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 15:06
Re: OOC 3
Should all those latest development threads and downtime thread be renumbered 4716? Tusk Development thread changes to 4716 from msg #2.
DM
 GM, 4345 posts
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 15:15
Re: OOC 3
No.  4715 is correct.  I got my knickers in a twisr with the dates, at one point.  Eventually, I decided it should be 4715 ....
Rana Nervetti
 player, 77 posts
 Tavern wench? Perhaps not
 Current AC = 16
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 15:17
Re: OOC 3
DM:
...  I got my knickers in a twisr with the dates, at one point...


No wonder you were walking funny!
DM
 GM, 4346 posts
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 15:25
Re: OOC 3
I wasn't!  I was walking like an Egyptian.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 81 posts
 Tavern wench? Perhaps not
 Current AC = 16
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 14:57
Re: OOC 3
The most frustrating thing about play-by-post games as opposed to table-top games is that you can't change your dice when they're rolling rubbish!!!
Maple
 player, 67 posts
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 15:10
Re: OOC 3
That is a mood!
Rana Nervetti
 player, 82 posts
 Tavern wench? Perhaps not
 Current AC = 16
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 15:13
Re: OOC 3
Maple:
That is a mood!


No, scientifically proven fact!  Trust me I have a veritable plethora of die to choose from when we play table-top.  Some roll high ... some roll low (sadly, don't need low rollers since the advent of Pathfinder, et al ... bring back original D&D or AD&D!) and some just don't want to play nicely no matter WHO rolls them!
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 56 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 19:32
Re: OOC 3

 The plural of anecdote is not evidence.

 That said, manufacturing flaws in cheap five - especially older ones - are totally a thing.
Marceline Gray
 player, 258 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 19:42
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Alisa Medvyed-Solanus (msg # 534):

I feel like some of those should be deliberate bait-and-switch just by their descriptions.

"So Aura of Cannibalism, huh? ...what's that do?"

"Ah, well, it actually siphons the abilities of other auras to yourself; the name is very misleading."
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1031 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 19:43
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Marceline Gray (msg # 546):

All I know is that I never want to be described as having an Aura of Cannibalism.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 724 posts
 Opportunist
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 20:41
Re: OOC 3
I once knew a bard who had an Aura of Cannabis-ism.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 447 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 03:01
Re: OOC 3
Yes, I think it's a pre-req for casting the Purple Haze spell.

In reply to Marceline Gray (msg # 546):

I did not read them, but one can only hope!   I agree with the GM on the tendency for materials to get more strange over time.  Sometimes much more so...
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 863 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 33/45
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 08:58
Re: OOC 3
By the way, Cyrus. Awesome job adjudicating the duels.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1034 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 12:09
Re: OOC 3
Thanks Adoven! It was fun not being the one getting hit so brutally. You two really traded blow for blow so well.
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 514 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 13:12
Re: OOC 3
Yes many thanks Cyrus, those low AC and high attack values certainly do make it brutal.  I'm looking forward to seeing how our Paladin matches up with <Insert sinister music> The Mordane.
DM
 GM, 4355 posts
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 13:30
Re: OOC 3
Does anybody want any more  Fuzzy threads for this Campaign Round?  It appears that most people have found themselves something to do in the standard Fuzzy Threads -  But I am happy to run another one -  IF enough people want it.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 60 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 14:09
Re: OOC 3

 I posted to the generic OOC one for shiggles and of course, the religious council. Not sure there's much else on Vova's plate right now.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1042 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 14:14
Re: OOC 3
Do some PCs need to go to Outpost?
~Berta Roth
 NPC p, 88 posts
 Human Female Dragonfriend
 Let's do it my way
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 14:35
Re: OOC 3
There's a thought ... I'll make a list ! ;P
DM
 GM, 4365 posts
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 14:59
Re: OOC 3
Some PCs have been to Outpost :)

Group 4 were tasked with resolving that problem.  Group 3 have nearly finished their shake-down cruise in Bogside, and I will be putting them together (along with Cyrus) for a new task as soon as everyone is back in Tusk.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1045 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 02:18
Re: OOC 3
Gotcha!
Cass Mordane
 Player, 729 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 06:27
Re: OOC 3
Tusk will likely be adding a new district to the west of Cheapside outside the city walls, beginning with a stable and a large warehouse.

Does anyone have suggestions for a new district name?
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 873 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 33/45
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 09:20
Re: OOC 3
If it is to be water-adjacent, you could call it Watergate. Or perhaps The Stableyard?
Tatyana
 player, 61 posts
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 21:48
Re: OOC 3
Sorry guys, things just got busy for me the first week of the new year.

I know I tried to do this before, but I need to pull out of this game. Amazing thing you've got going here, but I just can't do it justice.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 97 posts
 Tavern wench? Perhaps not
 Current AC = 16
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 21:51
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
Sorry guys, things just got busy for me the first week of the new year.

I know I tried to do this before, but I need to pull out of this game. Amazing thing you've got going here, but I just can't do it justice.


:(

Sorry to see you go, Tatyana, Rana will miss your company.
DM
 GM, 4374 posts
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 22:00
Re: OOC 3
Tatyana:
I need to pull out of this game.


Sorry to hear that. I enjoyed your character and play, and you will be welcome back later, if we have a suitable space/slot :)
Kiera Raincutter-Solanus
 player, 291 posts
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 06:14
Re: OOC 3
Maybe keep Tatyana around as someone who works/posts around Tusk, so you can come by and post and RP casually, when you can- instead of just taking off? Lots of fuzzy RP threads out there to wander through!

That way, if you ever get the time, you could always jump back into adventuring!
DM
 GM, 4375 posts
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 06:42
Re: OOC 3
Kiera Raincutter-Solanus:
Maybe keep Tatyana around as someone who works/posts around Tusk, so you can come by and post and RP casually, when you can- instead of just taking off? Lots of fuzzy RP threads out there to wander through!

That way, if you ever get the time, you could always jump back into adventuring!



I am cool with that, if Tatyana's player wants that.
DM
 GM, 4376 posts
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 10:47
Re: OOC 3
I have blogged again!  This time on systems of stronghold management and alignment.  It has some thought on developing lawful and Chaotic settlements using the Campaign Rules and considers a different type of development that will help support the community.

http://galinia.org.uk/internal-politics
~Berta Roth
 NPC p, 90 posts
 Human Female Dragonfriend
 Let's do it my way
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 13:39
Re: OOC 3
Might let Tatyana fill in at the Dragon's Den if the Roths need a night off.  ;>
DM
 GM, 4377 posts
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 13:54
Re: OOC 3
Berta, that is very kind of you  :)

However, How about this for community developments?

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....n_systems2:community

Thoughts? Coments?
Marceline Gray
 player, 260 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 23:16
Re: OOC 3
It's been a week for burnout, I'll give it that. AND ONLY THAT

May you be able to return if/when you're ready Tatyana.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 734 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 09:35
Re: OOC 3
So far Watergate is the winning name.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1052 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 13:02
Re: OOC 3
Chakram are awesome! Good call Cass! Or should we call you Xena

Also for Tusk you could go with NYC abbreviations:

South of the western road ('Watergate'?) - SOW
North of the western road - NOW
West of the northern road - WON
East of the northern road - EON
North of the eastern road - NOER
South of the eastern road - SOER

Or maybe I need to stop with the jokes this morning :)

This message was last edited by the player at 13:04, Sun 10 Jan.

Rana Nervetti
 player, 98 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 14:20
Re: OOC 3
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari:
...
OOC: The dice roller is not my friend in this duel. A natural 3 and 4 in consecutive rounds. Plus I started off with a 1. 


I keep wondering if trying the dice roller on the "new interface" site might work when they're not being friendly on the original site.  It'd be akin to having a second set of dice when playing table top.

I've not tested this theory yet, though. :)
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1053 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 14:32
Re: OOC 3
I was rolling on the mobile site :)
Rana Nervetti
 player, 99 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 14:52
Re: OOC 3
Well, there goes that theory! :)
DM
 GM, 4383 posts
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 15:20
Re: OOC 3
Yeah, I know.  It happens to me too.  Just as I am about to get a kill bonus, the dice roller throws a  2 - and some bloody PC steps in and finishes off my monster!
Rana Nervetti
 player, 100 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 15:22
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Yeah, I know.  It happens to me too.  Just as I am about to get a kill bonus, the dice roller throws a  2 - and some bloody PC steps in and finishes off my monster!


Now there is absolutely nothing wrong with that!
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1054 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 15:24
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Yeah, I know.  It happens to me too.  Just as I am about to get a kill bonus, the dice roller throws a  2 - and some bloody PC steps in and finishes off my monster!


Hahahaha!
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 458 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 18:50
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Cass Mordane (msg # 570):

;) For the life of me, I can't help but think of the overlord or chancellor of Watergate as:

https://tinyurl.com/y3hy26mh

(For those not American, this may be an unfamiliar bit of history.)

This message was last edited by the player at 19:09, Sun 10 Jan.

DM
 GM, 4385 posts
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 21:17
Re: OOC 3
*grin*  Tricky Dicky .....
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1055 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 21:40
Re: OOC 3
Well played!
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 887 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 22:05
Re: OOC 3
It was in my mind when I suggested Watergate...
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 460 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 23:36
Re: OOC 3
I wasn't sure whether it was intentional or no -- it is a good sounding name; I like elemental themes.    So claim it for the good guys!
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1057 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 03:06
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Rana Nervetti (msg # 574):

And I rolled another natural 1. If I had hit with two of the 4 attacks I have missed this duel would be over. Ugh.
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 530 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 03:51
Re: OOC 3
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari:
In reply to Rana Nervetti (msg # 574):

And I rolled another natural 1. If I had hit with two of the 4 attacks I have missed this duel would be over. Ugh.



OMG Cyrus is cursed!  Prepare him for the rites of purification!
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1059 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 03:57
Re: OOC 3
Maybe it’s good to get all the bad rolls out when it doesn’t really matter. That’s what I am trying to tell myself at least.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 890 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 07:36
Re: OOC 3
I, for one, hope he doesn't hold this match against me the next time I wish to exoand my business in Ringbridge....
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 532 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 09:30
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
I, for one, hope he doesn't hold this match against me the next time I wish to exoand my business in Ringbridge....


I'm not saying I threw the match but it may have been a good business decision in the long run ;)
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1060 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 12:47
Re: OOC 3
This was all for fun, I mean the dice roller didn’t make it very fun, but it was still for fun.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1126 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 13:29
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Alisa Medvyed-Solanus (msg # 578):

Nixon and Watergate are infamous all around the globe. We might not be familiar with all the details but I think an awful lot of us know enough to immediately link Watergate and scandal.

That is exactly why I liked it as the proposed name for the new district. Watergate, Cheapside and Ivory Hill all appeal very strongly to my sense of humour! ;o)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 895 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 15:29
Re: OOC 3
I think we are doing Kingdom Rurns every 6 months, correct?
So, are we at year 4715, or year 4715.5?
DM
 GM, 4392 posts
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 16:53
Re: OOC 3
4715 - 4715.5 was the extra downtime option in September.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1062 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 16:59
Re: OOC 3
When do we get to name something Mar-a-lago?
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 898 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 17:25
Re: OOC 3
When we incorporate land that is 100% swamp.....
Marik Aeris
 Player, 375 posts
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 17:28
Re: OOC 3
Well played sir, well played.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1063 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 17:31
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
When we incorporate land that is 100% swamp.....


Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Minia
 Player, 66 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 19/15/14 hp 9/24
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 17:48
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
When we incorporate land that is 100% swamp.....


Funny you should mention a swamp . . .
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 462 posts
 Half-elf Cleric
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 03:20
Re: OOC 3
Andalon de Lebeda:
Nixon and Watergate are infamous all around the globe. We might not be familiar with all the details but I think an awful lot of us know enough to immediately link Watergate and scandal.   


I figured most would.  Most of the Europeans and others I know, full out love to laugh at our nutty, corrupt politicians.

But I think at the point of some crisis or fiasco, Watergate's overseer really must give the 'I am not a crook!' speech.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 65 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 04:20
Re: OOC 3

 Hannah Gadsby opened her new show with a few decent lines, but the one that stuck with me was this:

 “Making fun of Americans is still technically punching up, although that window is closing.”

 ^_^
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 463 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 04:47
Re: OOC 3
After the picture of the guy in the bison hat who stormed the capitol went viral, I think I am about ready to pack up and move to Spain.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 66 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 05:07
Re: OOC 3

 Oh, he's just the best... He's a single, jobless dude who lives with his mum, has turned up to a bunch of Trump rallies, stormed the Capital building in Flintstones Cosplay...

 ...and now a bunch of folks on the right are accusing him of being Antifa.

 It's up there with the time that asshole Dick Cheney shot a lawyer while hunting lame ducks and insisted the lawyer apologise.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1064 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 05:09
Re: OOC 3
His mom said he hasn’t eaten since he was taken into custody (Friday) because the food they serve isn’t 100% organic. Hahahahaha! He’s going to be very hungry for a very long time :)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 899 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 06:17
Re: OOC 3
I was picturing Billy Crystal as Miracle Max, saying farewells at the Trump Rally.

"Goodbye, boys. Have fun storming the Capital...."
Maple
 player, 72 posts
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 10:59
Re: OOC 3
Oh right! All the new information coming in that three senators might have helped to organize this. Are you Americans ok? Do you maybe need a blanket or some cocoa? You've had a rough January.
DM
 GM, 4393 posts
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 11:25
Re: OOC 3
Guys, While I know it is important -  I think there are other (and better) places to comment on the US political situation.

One of the reasons I come to RPoL is to take a break from that sort of news, and I am sure that at least some others feel the same way.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1065 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 12:35
Re: OOC 3
Understood and sorry.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1067 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 04:50
Re: OOC 3
Which hex is Bogside in?
Marik Aeris
 Player, 377 posts
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 04:56
Re: OOC 3
Top left of the map, next to Villa.
DM
 GM, 4399 posts
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 08:39
Re: OOC 3
Between hexes 7 and 12
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1068 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 11:19
Re: OOC 3
Thank you. I wasn’t even looking over there!
Cass Mordane
 Player, 740 posts
 Opportunist
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 14:34
Re: OOC 3
DM:
OOC:  @Cass - And means that your spells have a 25% chance of failing.


Which is why I carry the sharp metal stick and the curved stick that shoots pointy sticks.

But seriously, thanks for the reminder. I did note it on my character sheet.
DM
 GM, 4403 posts
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 14:51
Re: OOC 3
TBH, I am not sure if that does you any favours :)
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1070 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 15:24
Re: OOC 3
Wow. 5% fees!!!
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1134 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 16:25
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari (msg # 612):

I know, that might be considered a bit low, but Abadar is a benevolent deity after all.  ;o)

I was guided by the post by iamthereplicant on the following site:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathf...banks_in_pathfinder/
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1071 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 16:36
Re: OOC 3
Could you imagine if you were charged 5% of every withdrawal or purchase today???

I realize it’s a much different world we live in now.
DM
 GM, 4404 posts
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 16:41
Re: OOC 3
We have a card machine locally  that will happily charge me £1.50 for every withdrawal.  So if I take out £30 for a few beers one evening .....
Cass Mordane
 Player, 741 posts
 Opportunist
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 16:43
Re: OOC 3
Instead we are charged sales tax of 5-10%, income tax of  25-30%, and property tax on home and vehicles.

Which reminds me, have you had your castle and horse assessed lately?  Hehehe.

There’s always something.
DM
 GM, 4405 posts
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 16:57
Re: OOC 3
*grin* We pay VAT (our version of sales tax) income tax, 'rates' for property and taxes for vehicles as well  :)  Not just bank charges.

My castle is Zero Rated because of all the holes in the roof and the government digging up the Rose Garden to build a motorway.

The horse went lame,  so it was sent to the Knacker's yard - which earned me half a groat.  My donkey is rated  very reasonably, although I find it hard to get out of first gear!
DM
 GM, 4406 posts
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 22:46
Re: OOC 3
I have just posted a new map for Group 0 - showing Minia and Maple's new holdings and Zelona's March-Hold - as Southern Region will look at the end of this campaign round.
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 533 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 23:28
Re: OOC 3
Andalon de Lebeda:
In reply to Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari (msg # 612):

I know, that might be considered a bit low, but Abadar is a benevolent deity after all.  ;o)

I was guided by the post by iamthereplicant on the following site:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathf...banks_in_pathfinder/


So how much interest is the bank paying on the money left with them?
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 465 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 01:06
Re: OOC 3
Yeah, yeah, Abadar's bank is okay.   But look what Acavna's got for you:



And the interest rate is ZERO.

For the first two weeks..
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 68 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 01:37
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 617):

 Also, free inter-bank ATM's are ubiquitous in the UK. I miss that a great deal, living in the colonies.
Maple
 player, 75 posts
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 02:48
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Vova doMedvyed (msg # 621):

Did you know that in addition to being a great replacement for coffee, roasted dandelion root also helps the digestive system and helps the liver detoxification process along. That's a plant fact ;)

This message was last edited by the player at 02:49, Thu 14 Jan.

Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 534 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 03:14
Re: OOC 3
DM:
I have just posted a new map for Group 0 - showing Minia and Maple's new holdings



Is this Apple Lodge? Litwin Cove?
Minia
 Player, 69 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 19/15/14 hp 9/24
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 03:22
Re: OOC 3
You got it in one
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 535 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 03:47
Re: OOC 3
Make sure you take fresh linen to Apple Lodge... the old ones were a little too friendly...
Minia
 Player, 70 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 19/15/14 hp 9/24
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 04:06
Re: OOC 3
I am...very disturbed but curious
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 536 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 04:23
Re: OOC 3
I was very disturbed to say the least.... Dom still wakes up with nightmares
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1135 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 14:28
Re: OOC 3
Domitius Aldori-Solanus:
So how much interest is the bank paying on the money left with them?


I don't think you quite understand the principles of medieval banking, yet. The bank will keep your money safe. That is what you pay a fee for, and you only pay it on withdrawal because that is when you actually have proof that the bank has performed that service for you. Look on the bright side - the bank's fee doesn't increase over time, regardless how long you want the bank to keep your money safe for you. If you never withdraw your money from the bank, you won't ever have to pay a fee!  :o)
DM
 GM, 4408 posts
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 15:25
Re: OOC 3
Domitius Aldori-Solanus:
Make sure you take fresh linen to Apple Lodge... the old ones were a little too friendly...

Dom met an old-fashioned AD&D-I monster known as a Sheet Ghoul ...
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1075 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 16:55
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Andalon de Lebeda (msg # 628):

They had to make money somehow :)
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 537 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Fri 15 Jan 2021
at 00:28
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Dom met an old-fashioned AD&D-I monster known as a Sheet Ghoul ...


So that's what it was!  Evil GM has to Evil... ;P
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 466 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Fri 15 Jan 2021
at 02:55
Re: OOC 3
All linen in the Solanus household is now washed with holy water.
Marceline Gray
 player, 264 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Fri 15 Jan 2021
at 02:57
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 629):

Well now I have questions...
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 538 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Fri 15 Jan 2021
at 04:30
Re: OOC 3
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus:
All linen in the Solanus household is now washed with holy water.


Thanks love :)
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 468 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Fri 15 Jan 2021
at 17:54
Re: OOC 3
Of course.  And just to make doubly sure, I also use the Tide detergent with powdered silver.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 745 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 17 Jan 2021
at 13:07
Re: OOC 3
I like all the new place names that have popped up on the map. Now all we need is a good Havingtonfordshire Landing.
DM
 GM, 4425 posts
Sun 17 Jan 2021
at 13:55
Re: OOC 3
*grin* place names are restricted to two lines of ten characters each (max)  so that I can fit them inside a Hex when I am mapping.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 746 posts
 Opportunist
Sun 17 Jan 2021
at 14:52
Re: OOC 3
Fordshire Sexington it is then.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 77 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Mon 18 Jan 2021
at 00:39
Re: OOC 3

 I kind of want somewhere to be called Jonaltordun Hill... (Draconic for hill: Jonal, Dwarven for hill: Tor. Elven for hill: Dun) just because I like quadruple tautologies. ^_^
Cass Mordane
 Player, 747 posts
 Opportunist
Mon 18 Jan 2021
at 01:29
Re: OOC 3
Jonal TordunHill?

Otherwise you are one letter over.
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 537 posts
 14/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Mon 18 Jan 2021
at 01:52
Re: OOC 3
Jonah Hill?
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 540 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Mon 18 Jan 2021
at 01:53
Re: OOC 3
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud:
Jonah Hill?

Is he the Mayor?
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 538 posts
 14/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Mon 18 Jan 2021
at 02:11
Re: OOC 3
Yo, Dosalic sisters, I found the next place to have a fight in the middle of town!
DM
 GM, 4426 posts
Mon 18 Jan 2021
at 11:55
Re: OOC 3
I have updated  the wiki pages for most of the settlements - I still need to do Tusk - and I'll get to that sometime this week.  The top thee links on this page  http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....southernregion:start  will take you to pages that list all the settlements in that jurisdiction.

Spreadsheets are almost complete, and will be published in the nest week or so.
DM
 GM, 4429 posts
Tue 19 Jan 2021
at 20:52
Re: OOC 3
All the settlement descriptions have been updated, and new finance spreadsheets published.  I would appreciate it if you could check your settlements, to make sure that you agree with me  :)

I am also prepared to accept additional descriptive material for settlements, if you want to enhance my descriptions.
DM
 GM, 4431 posts
Wed 20 Jan 2021
at 09:17
Re: OOC 3
I got carried away again.  Anyone fancy a game of Scrymball?

http://galinia.org.uk/scrymball
~Brother Gandred
 NPC e, 14 posts
 Priest of Torag / Smith
 Ringbridge
Wed 20 Jan 2021
at 10:45
Re: OOC 3
The young dwarven smithy grinned in appreciation of the inventiveness and was glad Lord Cyrus had left the defenses to Zauria.
Maple
 player, 77 posts
Thu 21 Jan 2021
at 03:47
Re: OOC 3
Updated sheet. Will write up a post tomorrow, I'm dead tired. (service industry jobs and their customers are the worse)
DM
 GM, 4433 posts
Thu 21 Jan 2021
at 07:46
Re: OOC 3
Thank you
Marceline Gray
 player, 266 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Thu 21 Jan 2021
at 20:48
Re: OOC 3
You know life is insane when you're almost delirious with joy for having a simple cold and not the big C. What a world we live in.

@GM is there a similar aspirations thread for Silverton? I'm trying to get all of Marcy's buildings and stuff in order and will gladly RP it with the right people if there's a thread.
Marik Aeris
 Player, 382 posts
Thu 21 Jan 2021
at 20:51
Re: OOC 3
Hey, if you're looking to build new businesses, you might want to consider New Dawn...I hear it's going places (or so I heard from a friend).
Marceline Gray
 player, 267 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Thu 21 Jan 2021
at 21:02
Re: OOC 3
I did spend a lot last build round, but I'll make a note. Spread my interests around, maybe invest in some places, why not?
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1084 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 21 Jan 2021
at 21:20
Re: OOC 3
Marceline Gray:
You know life is insane when you're almost delirious with joy for having a simple cold and not the big C. What a world we live in.

@GM is there a similar aspirations thread for Silverton? I'm trying to get all of Marcy's buildings and stuff in order and will gladly RP it with the right people if there's a thread.


Very glad it wasn't the big C...

Also, Dom and I did a little of that in the Fuzzy thread set in the Swans. I am sure our GM will set one in Silverton if you like :)

Ringbridge has a brand new district with lots of open space for developments as well :)

And there are a few hamlets for those of you who would prefer the quieter life. Mound is likely going to be the home of a new craft brewery though so watch out :)
DM
 GM, 4438 posts
Thu 21 Jan 2021
at 21:40
Re: OOC 3
Marceline Gray:
You know life is insane when you're almost delirious with joy for having a simple cold and not the big C. What a world we live in.

@GM is there a similar aspirations thread for Silverton? I'm trying to get all of Marcy's buildings and stuff in order and will gladly RP it with the right people if there's a thread.


Silverton is a part of greater Tusk -  so it is covered by the Tusk aspirations thread.
Have a chat with Cass, and talk your plans through with him first, then I'll add them to the Rusk Aspirations Thread.   I'll start a PM for you.



Glad it is only a cold  :)
DM
 GM, 4441 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 12:28
Re: OOC 3
And today it is card games ...

http://galinia.org.uk/bragge-the-card-game
~Bennett Riverbranch
 NPCe, 1 post
 Brewer
 Alderman of Mound
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 12:53
Re: OOC 3
This seems like a fun game, is there a dice roller option for cards?
DM
 GM, 4442 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 12:58
Re: OOC 3
Yep :)

Click on the Down arrow to the left right of "Game System / Special Dice" - choose the 54 card pack

This message was last edited by the GM at 14:42, Fri 22 Jan.

DM
 GM, 4443 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 13:03
Re: OOC 3
12:59, Today: DM drew the 8 cards: KH, 10H, 5D, KC, KD, 10D, 5C, 9D using a deck of 54 cards.


So I might play

First hand: Three of a kind - (KH, KC, KD)
Second hand: Flush  - (10D, 9D, 5D)
~Bennett Riverbranch
 NPCe, 2 posts
 Brewer
 Alderman of Mound
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 13:09
Re: OOC 3
That's very cool! I hadn't seen that before.
DM
 GM, 4444 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 13:16
Re: OOC 3
It has been there for a while, to accommodate rule systems that work on a random card draw.  I just never really thought how I could use it until now.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 114 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 14:34
Re: OOC 3
Sounds fun and a safe way to scratch a gambling itch! :-)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 912 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 16:21
Re: OOC 3
There was an odd SUPERS game I played in that made use of the die-roller. Wish I could remember the System.
DM
 GM, 4445 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 16:36
Re: OOC 3
I used to play an early version of marvel superheroes, it has a Red, Yellow, Green system based on d110 rolls.  Mind you, that was back in the days of street level heroes, before the time when every hero had mega powers  :)

I really liked the system -  made you think about your actions and nothing was clear cut.  I just can't run superhero games :)
Marik Aeris
 Player, 384 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 17:20
Re: OOC 3
DM:
I used to play an early version of marvel superheroes, it has a Red, Yellow, Green system based on d110 rolls.  Mind you, that was back in the days of street level heroes, before the time when every hero had mega powers  :)

I really liked the system -  made you think about your actions and nothing was clear cut.  I just can't run superhero games :)


Ooh, the old FASERIP system! I played the heck out of that back in the late 80s early 90s. Great memories of playing that game.

As for games that use cards, the only ones I can think of that I've played are Star Children: Velvet Generation (yep, it's a thing) and Prime Time Adventures. Yep, going into the super obscure recesses of the brain for those two.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 755 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 17:32
Re: OOC 3
MSHRPG (Faserip) is one of only two games that I ever really GM. Which are also my fav two to play.
DM
 GM, 4448 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 19:10
Re: OOC 3
It was Marvel Super Heroes from TSR, no less  :)  I've just checked the box ....
Marik Aeris
 Player, 387 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 19:33
Re: OOC 3
Yep, that's the one!
DM
 GM, 4449 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 20:08
Re: OOC 3
I managed to run a game  when I was a student taking my first teaching qualification, back in the 80s.

We were asked to consider Role Play(1) as a teaching device -  so I offered to run a game.  At the end of a three-hour session ... the lecturer was completely bemused.



1) It is a valid teaching technique - it lets learners practice a situation, and it can help learners understand the mind-set of people who think differently to them (among other things)

Personally (and perhaps surprisingly) I dislike it intensely as a teaching technique.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 469 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 21:44
Re: OOC 3
Not familiar with that one, but I have played under 'Marvel Heroic Roleplaying' -   a more recent system that works in an intuitive, narrative driven sort of way.    I like systems where, once the sheet is done, you don't have to be constantly looking back through the books.  Or 'ctrl-f-ing' through the pdf.
Marik Aeris
 Player, 389 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 21:47
Re: OOC 3
And you're playing Pathfinder? Hmm..... :)
DM
 GM, 4451 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 21:51
Re: OOC 3
Or, in my case  Ctrl-F....ing
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 470 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 21:59
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 671):

;D

Oh, Merik, believe me, pathfinder is a love/hate thing for me.

I really hated 3.5; I learned it late (2009?), and did it grudgingly, only to get into rpol stories that made use of it.    By comparison, pathfinder was an improvement, so I don't complain.   Too much.   The high levels though, ugh, not into it.   I'm sure I'll keep advancing my character, but I'd be lying to say I'm looking forward to anything above like 7th.

Like I'm supposing many of you, D&D was my rpg roots.  It's kind of like a comfort food. I like the tropes & concepts, but the system?   Yehh.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 758 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 22:04
Re: OOC 3
That was the great thing about Marvel Superhero. You had one big reference table to roll against.
Marik Aeris
 Player, 390 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 22:04
Re: OOC 3
Yeah, I totally get that. Have you tried D&D 5E? I prefer it soooo much, and I'm in a couple of Pathfinder 2E games here on RPoL and am liking it so far.

13th Age is a great game if you want to D&D feel but more of an indie/story game ruleset. or Dungeon World, a D&D themed Powered by the Apocalypse game.
DM
 GM, 4452 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 22:24
Re: OOC 3
STOP trying to send my players away!  ;)

It took me ages to get into 3rd ED, and if I hadn't got into Neverwinter Nights (the computer game)  I would still be whinging about it.  Pathfinder has (IMO) a better handle on a lot of things, and I really liked the fact that  CRD was a simplification of the bloat-fest that 3.5 had become.  Now it has become a bloat-fest itself.

I have seriously been considering writing a CRB website that I can use as a reference system for my own games.  If it ain't on that website -  you can't have it!  :)
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 471 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 22:28
Re: OOC 3
No worries -- your game ranks for setting, stories, color, cast, immersion, organization, a whole list of reasons.    The system is no big deal.

But yes, one big table is good!

I've dabbled in 5E just a little.   It does seem well thought out.   If the right game/story presents itself, one day, I'll probably learn it more properly.

PF 2E...just recently, I was curious, and downloaded a free character builder on my phone.    Have to say, I was surprised.   It seems like a good overhaul.  I have no clue how it plays, but the creation part of it was promising.

Funny you should mention 'Powered by the Apocalypse'...I'm in a WW2/Golden age supers game that uses that one.   That's definitely the sort of system I tend to prefer.   Would be interesting to see how it works for something medieval/fantasy.
DM
 GM, 4453 posts
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 22:41
Re: OOC 3
Thank you :)
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1088 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Fri 22 Jan 2021
at 22:43
Re: OOC 3
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus:
No worries -- your game ranks for setting, stories, color, cast, immersion, organization, a whole list of reasons.    The system is no big deal.


This is a FACT
DM
 GM, 4454 posts
Sat 23 Jan 2021
at 07:40
Re: OOC 3
And I just added a dice game, to the Bragge thread.

http://galinia.org.uk/bragge-the-card-game

Sooner or later all those games will appear on the wiki  :)
DM
 GM, 4463 posts
Mon 25 Jan 2021
at 10:06
Re: OOC 3
I have just made a minor adjustment to the Defence balance rules.  The only change is that  towns/cities etc -  must have at least one def point of light troops per district.  Every settlement in the game meets those criteria already.
DM
 GM, 4474 posts
Thu 28 Jan 2021
at 20:26
Re: OOC 3
Last chance for the Downtime thread.  I want to close it off at the weekend.  I have completed everything else for the campaign round  :)

This message was last edited by the GM at 20:26, Thu 28 Jan.

Kendrick Winters
 player, 583 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Tue 2 Feb 2021
at 02:21
Re: OOC 3
Sorry been busy these days.
Had a whirlwind of PPP, etc, etc, etc.

Now I wait for the government to respond :)

(Looks like I missed a lot)
DM
 GM, 4491 posts
Tue 2 Feb 2021
at 08:49
Re: OOC 3
It is a strange time for all of us.

I am sure that some powerful mage has cursed the whole world to 'live in interesting times ...'
Cass Mordane
 Player, 779 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 2 Feb 2021
at 23:36
Re: OOC 3
You all realize that if I lose to Dom, I will be the only one with a perfect record?
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 559 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Wed 3 Feb 2021
at 00:27
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
You all realize that if I lose to Dom, I will be the only one with a perfect record?


I'll try to help with that :)
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 473 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Wed 3 Feb 2021
at 01:04
Re: OOC 3
That reminds me, in the Stars Wars Clone Wars cartoon, there's a scene where Anakin's complaining about how his role in their plans always ends up with him getting caught.   And he's like: "How can I ever become a jedi master, if I keep getting caught?"

Obi Wan:  "At least you're a master...at something."
Maple
 player, 82 posts
Wed 3 Feb 2021
at 01:07
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Alisa Medvyed-Solanus (msg # 686):

I just watched that episode today XD
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 474 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Wed 3 Feb 2021
at 01:12
Re: OOC 3
Oh, cool!  I'm not a huge SW fan, some of it I don't care for -- but Clone Wars is really good.  Like better than many of the movies good.   The writing is superb -- some great dialogs!
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1114 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Wed 3 Feb 2021
at 01:36
Re: OOC 3
You should watch the Mandalorian. It is really great.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 475 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Wed 3 Feb 2021
at 02:22
Re: OOC 3
I've heard many good things --  it's officially on the to-watch list..
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1115 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Wed 3 Feb 2021
at 02:32
Re: OOC 3
Dave Filoni (sp?) is the creator of both and he’s been killing it as the creative guide for the Clone Wars and Rebels.

Disney + is going to have a lot of amazing content this year.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1119 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 4 Feb 2021
at 22:55
Re: OOC 3
Vova is so funny!
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 87 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Thu 4 Feb 2021
at 23:31
Re: OOC 3

 For a character based entirely on my watching The Umbrella Academy and thinking that Klaus would make a great character, he's way more fun than I deserve.

 Also, I couldn't have needed that Owlbear Coat more... This is the guy he's based upon:
 https://s2.r29static.com/bin/e...80/2130004/image.jpg
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1120 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 4 Feb 2021
at 23:38
Re: OOC 3
That's a good show! And a great inspiration!
DM
 GM, 4513 posts
Sat 6 Feb 2021
at 10:01
Re: OOC 3
Probably no updates for adventure threads today.  I am transferring all my data to a new PC, so mapping becomes difficult  (and I am not having an easy time with the transfer)
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 450 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Sat 6 Feb 2021
at 13:30
Re: OOC 3
I can't remember any time when it was ever easy to setup a new PC, so you have my complete and utter sympathy for your efforts in this endeavour.  :>
DM
 GM, 4515 posts
Sat 6 Feb 2021
at 14:12
Re: OOC 3
I made a mistake and tried to use OneDrive to transfer my files.  Then it started getting my work O365 accounts confused with my personal account.  I KNEW I should have stuck with the external hard-drive and done it the old-fashioned way!
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1122 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Sat 6 Feb 2021
at 15:22
Re: OOC 3
Oh no! Good luck!
DM
 GM, 4516 posts
Sat 6 Feb 2021
at 15:53
Re: OOC 3
It has worked itself out in the end -  all the data seems to be in the right place now. Just got to make sure all my other accounts are  configured correctly.
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1125 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 8 Feb 2021
at 03:42
Re: OOC 3
Isn’t Gentle Repose the equivalent of Preserve Corpse, Vova?
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 90 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Mon 8 Feb 2021
at 03:47
Re: OOC 3

 It's a second level spell, and the boss mentioned an Orison. Not that either's available, but that's a biiiig difference!
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1126 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 8 Feb 2021
at 03:49
Re: OOC 3
True!
DM
 GM, 4519 posts
Mon 8 Feb 2021
at 08:33
Re: OOC 3
My bad  :(
DM
 GM, 4520 posts
Mon 8 Feb 2021
at 09:05
Re: OOC 3
But  Giant Cave Shrews are like busses.  You don't see one for ages, but then three come along all at once ...
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1127 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Mon 8 Feb 2021
at 10:33
Re: OOC 3
Oh cool. That’s going to be fun!
DM
 GM, 4523 posts
Mon 8 Feb 2021
at 10:44
Re: OOC 3
You just met the mini-bus.  It might be a double decker following ....
Rana Nervetti
 player, 123 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Mon 8 Feb 2021
at 11:57
Re: OOC 3
Happy to be at the back of the queue! Rana is following done very good advice....
DM
 GM, 4528 posts
Thu 11 Feb 2021
at 17:09
Re: OOC 3
I started updating  adventure threads today. I got groups 1 and 3 done, but then a work problem came up.  I am currently building a lap-top for a student, that I need to deliver tomorrow morning.  Then I have to hang around, until she has finished the exam, so that I can collect it and bring it home. I am afraid that group 2 won't be updated until tomorrow afternoon or Saturday morning.

I suppose I had better put something to read on my new (Xmas present) Kindle.  Or take that book of sci-fi short stories (that I also got for Xmas) instead.  Decisions, decisions ...
Rana Nervetti
 player, 127 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Thu 11 Feb 2021
at 20:04
Re: OOC 3
For everyone in group 3 .... do any of you fine folk use a ranged weapon at all?  Or are you primarily toe-to-toe fighting types?
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1133 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 11 Feb 2021
at 20:34
Re: OOC 3
Cyrus can use a bow, but then he has to drop his shield and that's a big AC loss :)
Rana Nervetti
 player, 128 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Thu 11 Feb 2021
at 20:41
Re: OOC 3
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari:
Cyrus can use a bow, but then he has to drop his shield and that's a big AC loss :)


I thought that might be the case with you, Cyrus :)
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 546 posts
 14/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Thu 11 Feb 2021
at 20:56
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Rana Nervetti (msg # 709):

I can shoot my crossbow. I'm fairly decent at it, got a nice mix of strength and dex I do
Rana Nervetti
 player, 129 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Thu 11 Feb 2021
at 21:00
Re: OOC 3
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud:
In reply to Rana Nervetti (msg # 709):

I can shoot my crossbow. I'm fairly decent at it, got a nice mix of strength and dex I do


Thanks, Vik!  It will be helpful for me to know this going forward. :)
Minia
 Player, 84 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 19/15/14 hp 9/24
Thu 11 Feb 2021
at 21:08
Re: OOC 3
My statblock tells me I have a composite longbow strapped to my back, so you should know that and I'll make sure it's in the description.

I'm not a ranged damage machine but chip damage is better than nothing.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 130 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Thu 11 Feb 2021
at 21:22
Re: OOC 3
Minia:
My statblock tells me I have a composite longbow strapped to my back, so you should know that and I'll make sure it's in the description.

I'm not a ranged damage machine but chip damage is better than nothing.


Thanks, Minia! :)
Maple
 player, 88 posts
Fri 12 Feb 2021
at 02:28
Re: OOC 3
injured hand at work hard time typing post tomorrow?
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 577 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Fri 12 Feb 2021
at 02:28
Re: OOC 3
Dom wanted to wish his player happy 50 rotations around the sun day today.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 787 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 12 Feb 2021
at 02:50
Re: OOC 3
Happy Birthday!
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 478 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Fri 12 Feb 2021
at 03:06
Re: OOC 3
Half a century is a real milestone!   HBD, hope you party it up in wild Aussie style!  Or, just enjoy a pleasant evening at home, if so preferred...
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 579 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Fri 12 Feb 2021
at 03:09
Re: OOC 3
Tomorrow I'll be at the Ivanhoe pub in Manly, NSW you are all free to koin me if upu can make it.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 479 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Fri 12 Feb 2021
at 03:18
Re: OOC 3
Well damn, that does look pretty good:

https://tinyurl.com/4bp7dzwx
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1135 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Fri 12 Feb 2021
at 03:22
Re: OOC 3
Happy birthday! Enjoy the celebration!
DM
 GM, 4529 posts
Fri 12 Feb 2021
at 07:56
Re: OOC 3
Happy Birthday, youngster!  :)
Kiera Raincutter-Solanus
 player, 298 posts
Fri 12 Feb 2021
at 20:32
Re: OOC 3
Eh, I don't think I'll be able to make it in person, but I'll lift a drink in your honor tonight up here in the States. :P

Happy birthday!
Maple
 player, 90 posts
Sat 13 Feb 2021
at 02:47
Re: OOC 3
Happy birthday my dude!
Marceline Gray
 player, 271 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Sat 13 Feb 2021
at 02:57
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Domitius Aldori-Solanus (msg # 720):

Oh Heck an Aussie! Secret test of character - Who's your team?
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 582 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Sat 13 Feb 2021
at 09:58
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Marceline Gray (msg # 726):

Waratahs, I don't hold with that AFL game the southerners and westerners like.
DM
 GM, 4534 posts
Sat 13 Feb 2021
at 10:05
Re: OOC 3
Such pretty flowers  :)   (I just had to google that)
Safiya Vallani
 player, 372 posts
Sat 13 Feb 2021
at 11:19
Re: OOC 3
Indeed, happy birthday.
Marik Aeris
 Player, 400 posts
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 04:09
Re: OOC 3
Hey all, just wanted to let you know I've been without power all day and might be tomorrow, so I might not be posting for a couple of days.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 788 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 04:48
Re: OOC 3
Be safe.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 133 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 05:20
Re: OOC 3
Marik Aeris:
Hey all, just wanted to let you know I've been without power all day and might be tomorrow, so I might not be posting for a couple of days.


That doesn't sound like fun. Hopefully it gets sorted quickly for you.
DM
 GM, 4540 posts
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 07:32
Re: OOC 3
Hope you get it sorted quickly :)
DM
 GM, 4541 posts
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 14:28
Re: OOC 3
People have started asking me awkward questions about trading outside of Tusk/Midmarch - so I thought I ought to get my act together and write something.

http://galinia.org.uk/reading-across-borders

This might look as if I am having a go at V&A -  It isn't meant to be.  I have been winging most of those transactions -  which works while there is only one business interested.  It doesn't work when there are more people interested in setting up trade routes.

I also know some of these ideas sound draconic, but that reflects the political makeup of the settlements and the difficulty of getting established in a 'foreign' town/country.

Perhaps food for thought for Tusk Council.
DM
 GM, 4542 posts
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 14:32
Re: OOC 3
Dang.  I forgot to add a note about 'magic' economy being cashable at 'small town' rates and ....  something else I can't remember now that I have started this post.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 481 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 18:30
Re: OOC 3
Marik Aeris:
Hey all, just wanted to let you know I've been without power all day and might be tomorrow, so I might not be posting for a couple of days.


I live in Texas, and am in the same situation --  it is serious, with ongoing power outages.    Likely I'll be scarce this week.
DM
 GM, 4543 posts
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 19:23
Re: OOC 3
We can wait.  RL comes first.
Cass Mordane
 Player, 789 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 19:28
Re: OOC 3
Time for import/export taxes!
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 977 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 19:30
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 735):

Perhaps regarding tax-free assets being cashable as well?
Marceline Gray
 player, 273 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 21:10
Re: OOC 3
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus:
Marik Aeris:
Hey all, just wanted to let you know I've been without power all day and might be tomorrow, so I might not be posting for a couple of days.


I live in Texas, and am in the same situation --  it is serious, with ongoing power outages.    Likely I'll be scarce this week.


Same here. It's been wild. Stay safe fellow Texans.
DM
 GM, 4544 posts
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 21:42
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
Perhaps regarding tax-free assets being cashable as well?


I was starting to feel uuncomfortable with that, it makes it too easy to Xfer money between places.  I might tempted to keep magic items as cashable -  the investment for producing them is higher.

All of you, stay safe!
Marik Aeris
 Player, 401 posts
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 21:45
Re: OOC 3
Yay, fellow Texans!
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 978 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 22:01
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 741):

Agreed. That's why I want to expand my magic assets.
DM
 GM, 4545 posts
Tue 16 Feb 2021
at 22:10
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven Lodovka-Sud (msg # 743):

Just remeber what I said about Holy Houses - they need to have a clear religious purpose, rather than just being a cash cow for developments in different areas.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 482 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Wed 17 Feb 2021
at 03:08
Re: OOC 3
Marik Aeris:
Yay, fellow Texans!


Yes, wave the frozen flag proudly!   ;)
Minia
 Player, 88 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 19/15/14 hp 9/24
Wed 17 Feb 2021
at 03:11
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Alisa Medvyed-Solanus (msg # 745):

Which of the six would you be waving?
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 979 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Wed 17 Feb 2021
at 05:37
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 744):

Understood. I am promoting Cayden as he appeals to my devil-may-care attitude. But rather than just Holy Houses, expect me to build Luxury Stores and a Bardic College in Ringbridge as well, eventually.
DM
 GM, 4546 posts
Wed 17 Feb 2021
at 13:43
Re: OOC 3
I have added a short section to the religious organiosations page, describing what a deity expects money generated by Holy Buildings to be used for.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....eligiouorganisations
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1147 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Wed 17 Feb 2021
at 14:31
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
In reply to DM (msg # 744):

Understood. I am promoting Cayden as he appeals to my devil-may-care attitude. But rather than just Holy Houses, expect me to build Luxury Stores and a Bardic College in Ringbridge as well, eventually.


That goes very well with the brewery that is being built in Mound.

There's also a brand new district with lots of room for development in Ringbridge :)
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 484 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Thu 18 Feb 2021
at 22:29
Re: OOC 3
Minia:
Which of the six would you be waving?


Hm, I think I'd go with Spain.
Minia
 Player, 89 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 19/15/14 hp 9/24
Fri 19 Feb 2021
at 04:32
Re: OOC 3
A good one
Marceline Gray
 player, 275 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Sun 21 Feb 2021
at 04:14
Re: OOC 3
Safe, thawed and relatively unscathed, and hoping the same for my fellow Texans. What a BS week that was.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 485 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Sun 21 Feb 2021
at 19:04
Re: OOC 3
Yeah -- no kidding!  Glad that you're okay.  The weather's now over 60 degrees F where we are, and it's like it was a bad dream!  Came through w/o burst pipes or any property damage, thank goodness.   I know others who were less fortunate, now have an expensive mess..
Maple
 player, 93 posts
Thu 25 Feb 2021
at 01:14
Re: OOC 3
Apologies this last couple of weeks have been hectic for me. I've finally had to cut my abusive mother out of my life and have been distracted. Back to posting for me!
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1156 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 25 Feb 2021
at 02:02
Re: OOC 3
That’s really hard. I have had a similar experience any there is not one thing easy about that situation.
DM
 GM, 4562 posts
Thu 25 Feb 2021
at 07:02
Re: OOC 3
Maple:
Apologies this last couple of weeks have been hectic for me. I've finally had to cut my abusive mother out of my life and have been distracted. Back to posting for me!


 {{{{Maple}}}}
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 486 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Sun 28 Feb 2021
at 18:54
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Maple (msg # 754):

So sorry to hear.  :(  I had to end my marriage for the same reason.

Some people do not have any love to give you, irregardless of how you're related.   It's like trying to order a glass of chardonnay at a coffee shop.   It just isn't on the menu.

Sorry for being a bit scarce, Group 2 -- back on it this week.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:55, Sun 28 Feb.

Maple
 player, 96 posts
Wed 3 Mar 2021
at 01:54
Re: OOC 3
Thank you, its been  rough but I'm pushing on. hugs to all of you
Minia
 Player, 92 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 19/15/14 hp 9/24
Wed 3 Mar 2021
at 04:27
Re: OOC 3
As might be expected, I know Maple in real life and she's honestly very brave to be trying to do this. So though I maybe forgot to say it in the real world, I'm here for her and I'm proud of her.
Marceline Gray
 player, 277 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Wed 10 Mar 2021
at 01:46
Re: OOC 3
Spent the last couple of days violently ill and recovering, please NPC if needed, will attmpt to post properly when less gross
Rana Nervetti
 player, 145 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Wed 10 Mar 2021
at 06:28
Re: OOC 3
Hope you feel better soon Marceline.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 489 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 02:33
Re: OOC 3
Oh no, sorry to hear -  please rest up!
DM
 GM, 4568 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 08:35
Re: OOC 3
Hope you are feeling better soon.  RL always comes first.
DM
 GM, 4572 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 15:23
Re: OOC 3
Just a heads-up, for those of you have played with her in the past.  Pipre's player has decided to leave the game, so Pipre and Big Job are now full NPCs.

I have told her that she is welcome back to the game in the future.
DM
 GM, 4573 posts
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 15:50
Re: OOC 3
We are getting close to another 'Downtime' session.  Note that this isn't a Campaign Round, just another opportunity to use up some downtime, and make downtime posts.

However, I am prepared to start another Fuzzy thread or two.  Does anyone want a Fuzzy Thread set up?
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 989 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Thu 11 Mar 2021
at 16:04
Re: OOC 3
I might want one for a dinner party with the House Yitis representative. Let me think about it.
~Bennett Riverbranch
 NPCe, 3 posts
 Brewer
 Alderman of Mound
Fri 12 Mar 2021
at 00:47
Re: OOC 3
I will want an audience with Cyrus to propose my brewery and expansion in Mound. It could be at the Swans in Ringbridge.
DM
 GM, 4574 posts
Fri 12 Mar 2021
at 08:06
Re: OOC 3
~Bennett Riverbranch:
I will want an audience with Cyrus to propose my brewery and expansion in Mound. It could be at the Swans in Ringbridge.


That is something you can arrange  directly with Cyrus -  the two of you just need at agree a time and place :)
Marceline Gray
 player, 280 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Mon 15 Mar 2021
at 03:19
Re: OOC 3
I return, gross as it is (very gross)

I feel like Marcy should be meeting somebody during downtime but I'm still out of it and working to catch up,if I was supposed to discuss something with anyone please just give a gentle poke
DM
 GM, 4579 posts
Mon 15 Mar 2021
at 14:02
Re: OOC 3
I've been thinking about Pharasma ....

http://galinia.org.uk/the-church-of-pharasma
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 592 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Mon 15 Mar 2021
at 23:14
Re: OOC 3
Where does Pharasma stand on resurrection? I imagine there are those within the church who would view it as an affront to Pharasma and those who are OK as it is another divine power granting a return to life.

This one comes from an encounter in War for the Crown which we are just playing through in another game.   An individual has been returned to life via arcane methods and a high powered servant of Pharasma is out to kill the abomination and return the stolen soul.
DM
 GM, 4581 posts
Mon 15 Mar 2021
at 23:43
Re: OOC 3
I can't remember where I saw it now, but I once read something along the lines of  ...

quote:
Resurrection does not stop a soul coming before Pharasma for judgement -  it just delays it.  And who is to say when it is the right time for a soul to be judged?


...  and I quite liked that.

Pharasmin clerics can take the resurrection sub-domain, so I really don't see that Pharasma objects at all  :)
DM
 GM, 4582 posts
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 00:01
Re: OOC 3
Ans, apparently ...

quote:
Inner sea Gods is good book about Pharasma which says things like:

"Though she allows resurrection, the Lady of Graves opposes undeath as a desecration of the memory of the f lesh and a corruption of a soul’s path on its journey to her judgment. She encourages her followers to hunt undead, as the souls of the destroyed undead will then reach her for judgment."

and

"Though Pharasmin priests worship the death goddess, they have no taboo against preventing death through healing, either mundane or magical. Pharasmin priests who sign on with adventuring parties usually act as healers—if not particularly gentle or sympathetic ones— and most temples raise money by selling healing and other spellcasting services. Even spells like raise dead, reincarnate, and resurrection are not forbidden, though churches usually charge a great deal for these."

Marceline Gray
 player, 281 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 00:49
Re: OOC 3
I think between the several characters (players and npc alike) we could probably get a consensus on resurrection over raise dead and all similar spells/actions.
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 594 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 01:05
Re: OOC 3
Marceline Gray:
I think between the several characters (players and npc alike) we could probably get a consensus on resurrection over raise dead and all similar spells/actions.


There is a potential Fuzzy thread
DM
 GM, 4583 posts
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 07:33
Re: OOC 3
And from Faiths of Balance , whichgives an overview of all the Neutral Deities ...

quote:
Taboos
The taboos of the faith are largely local
in nature, but there are a few that
remain constant across the faith. As
her follower, you are forbidden to kill
her psychopomps, such as whippoorwills
and scarabs, for they are the goddess’s
eyes and ears. While the goddess has
no opinions regarding contraception,
you may not partake in the abortion of
unborn babies, for to do so is to cut short
the destiny of a child before it has had a
chance to make its own. While necromancy
has many beneficial spells that allow you to
care for both the dead and the living, you may
not create undead, nor control them unless
you do so specifically for the purpose of
destroying them.


No mention of Raising the Dead as  something that is Taboo to priests of Pharasma.  However, there is nothing to stop individual priests or orders from having a personal / local ban or dislike.

For Example, Ethankos has already stated, publicly, that he does not want to be Raised or Resurrrected if he should die.
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 595 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 07:38
Re: OOC 3
I think in the instance of the other game it is that it was arcane magic used that is causing the issue.  That and otjer souls have been used to repair the resurrected soul.
DM
 GM, 4584 posts
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 09:49
Re: OOC 3
Domitius Aldori-Solanus:
I think in the instance of the other game it is that it was arcane magic used that is causing the issue.  That and otjer souls have been used to repair the resurrected soul.


I don't think Arcane should be a problem.  The use of other souls, thereby disrupting their afterlife, would be a big problem for a lot of Pharasmin  :)
Ethankos
 player, 223 posts
 Cleric of Pharasma
 All stories end in death
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 11:23
Re: OOC 3
As a priest of Pharasma dedicated to returning undead to their rest, Ethankos sees the transition of the soul to the afterlife as a final journey.  But while he chooses never to raise the dead himself, that is his own affair, and to do so or not is in no way in conflict with the teachings of his church ... so if others choose to do so, that is a matter for themselves alone, though he would council against such if consulted.

:>
DM
 GM, 4592 posts
Sun 21 Mar 2021
at 10:44
Re: OOC 3
I reworked the Who's Who page slightly, and brought it (a bit more) up to date.  It doesn't look as neat, but it is a bit easier to navigate.


http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ionpeople#other_npcs
DM
 GM, 4594 posts
Sun 21 Mar 2021
at 13:49
Re: OOC 3
If you look at the Southern Chapter -  you will see some names  (in Green) have links to their family details.  If you would like a page for your Family/business/holding -  then  I will create it for you, although I will expect you to provide a large chunk of the raw text.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....gion:southernchapter

Different people have created their pages in different ways, there is no set format   :)
DM
 GM, 4598 posts
Mon 22 Mar 2021
at 13:22
Re: OOC 3
I am working on ways of handling cross border developments again!  The system I came up with last time was getting very complicated, and I work the merchants hard enough already.  Not to mention making my life difficult, as well :P

The system need to reflect the difficulty of breaking into a new market, the 'protectiveness' of the people already running business in new markets, and what the benefits are for the new community.  So it will mean that development on 'foreign' places is slower than on Home Soil.

But then the kudos and security and extra income that comes from Cross Border trade is worth it ....

At the same time, I am using the opportunity to restrict the ways that income from religious buildings can be used to finance general business and settlement development.  I'm not banning it, I just want to see a link between Church Income and the goals of the deity - oh, and a commitment from the PC :)  Note:  I am not going to take anything away from any existing holdings or businesses.
DM
 GM, 4599 posts
Mon 22 Mar 2021
at 20:08
Re: OOC 3
And I have just reworked the Jovvox page.  Little has changed, but now you know a lot more about it.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....en_land:jovvox:start
DM
 GM, 4600 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 12:54
Re: OOC 3
Phew:  That took a long time, but I think I have a better solution for trading and developing across borders.

http://galinia.org.uk/cross-bo...e-and-development-ii

It isn't set in stone -  let me know what you think and (if I think you have a good case) I'll change it.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 998 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 15:04
Re: OOC 3
Two questions.

1) If Jovvox's hamlet is getting rich from my developments there, why can't we use that money to expand its limit on expansion?

2) Even though I am no cleric, can I still build a Holy House to Shelyn within the confines of the Bardic College I was planning? It fits Shelyn's interest.
DM
 GM, 4601 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 15:36
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
Two questions.


1) If Jovvox's hamlet is getting rich from my developments there, why can't we use that money to expand its limit on expansion?

Jovvox would apply that restriction to any outsider.  V&A are the first 'outsiders' to be given permission to build there - ever.  They saw an advantage to them in allowing you to set up there, mainly because they thought there was going to be a war between Surtova and the Aldori, and they wanted to sell loads of weapons.  Other than that, they are happy to stay as a small town.

This doesn't change your agreement with Jovvox -  but it makes it easier to funnel income from Jovvox into developments in Mivon, Restov or other 'foreign' setlements.


2) Even though I am no cleric, can I still build a Holy House to Shelyn within the confines of the Bardic College I was planning? It fits Shelyn's interest.

No.  Not unless you take an Entourage Ally/Cousin who is a priest of Shelyn.  You can, however, set up a Shrine or Great Shrine dedicated to Shelyn within the confines of the Bardic College.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 999 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 15:41
Re: OOC 3
So the 0.45 bp I was generating in Mivon is now reduced to 0.3? And the same for any Shallops or fishing boats I sail down there?
DM
 GM, 4602 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 15:51
Re: OOC 3
Yes.  But you don't have the problem of converting to cash and back again, and you don't have all the extra costs for bringing in vessels from Tusk.

Henry makes 0.25 bp from his serai in New Stetven.

This message was last edited by the GM at 16:36, Tue 23 Mar.

Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1000 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 16:28
Re: OOC 3
Damn. 2.5 bp on each point of Economy? Sign me up for THAT!!!!
DM
 GM, 4603 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 16:35
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven Lodovka-Sud (msg # 789):

Whoops.  0.25bp.    I'll edit it in the last post, so I don't have a queue outside New Stetven's city gates :) :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 794 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 18:42
Re: OOC 3
I am just going to build hotels in the Stolen Land until every one lives in one. Come on. They can afford it.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:43, Tue 23 Mar.

DM
 GM, 4604 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 19:10
Re: OOC 3
What happened to Coffee Houses and Wine Bars -  not to mention your Perlot vineyards?
Marik Aeris
 Player, 406 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 19:20
Re: OOC 3
He's a bard, he's fickle. His interests flit about like a butterfly :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 795 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 19:29
Re: OOC 3

^^^^THIS!^^^^^

But there must be coffee houses, and tea houses, and fine drinks of all kinds available for ones who wants to leave their confines and socialize with their neighbors. All for a modest price, of course.
DM
 GM, 4605 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 19:47
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
.....  ones who wants to leave their confines and socialize with their neighbors ....


Dah, Dah, Dah, Dah .... LOCKDOWN!
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 492 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 21:04
Re: OOC 3
I think I'd like to be one of those people who pockets various items from hotels, every time I stay.   Do I need a level of rogue, to be able to do that?
DM
 GM, 4606 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 21:15
Re: OOC 3
No.  Just a big suitcase.

I got accused of stealing a rug from the room in a small greek hotel once. We opened our suitcases to show it wasn't there, and they finally believed us that it wasn't there in the first place.   That was 'interesting' - I have about 6 words of Greek and their English wasn't that good.  It took a while to even work out what the problem was  :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 796 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 21:24
Re: OOC 3
How big a suitcase are we talking here?

Do.Not.Steal.The.Halflings.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 493 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Wed 24 Mar 2021
at 02:29
Re: OOC 3
That's hysterical -  though I'm sure it probably wasn't while you were going through it.

Suitcase?   Ha - this is D&D!   A bag of holding will do the trick.   And no worries, won't bag-nap any halflings.   That would just be wrong.

Well, unless one of them's like a really good pastry chef.
DM
 GM, 4607 posts
Wed 24 Mar 2021
at 13:02
Re: OOC 3
Ok -  Stage 2 of Trading and Developing Across Borders has a brief run down of the Towns and Cities that we know a bit about.

http://galinia.org.uk/business-and-trading-reports
Marceline Gray
 player, 283 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Wed 24 Mar 2021
at 20:55
Re: OOC 3
Something about how of all the things to steal from a hotel, it's the rug that crosses the line and not, say, almost everything else that isn't nailed down, and even then...

It also sounds like a level 1 adventure for new PF players - 'Who's stealing all this stuff from the inns and how?!'
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 451 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Thu 25 Mar 2021
at 05:10
Re: OOC 3
And the hotel owners never even commented on that rather heavily woven and oddly patterned suit you were wearing at the time ?   :>
Marceline Gray
 player, 284 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Thu 25 Mar 2021
at 06:04
Re: OOC 3
You mean my coat of many pockets awkward lumps? It happens to be a family heirloom
DM
 GM, 4613 posts
Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 09:30
Re: OOC 3
And my final thoughts on Religious developments ...

http://galinia.org.uk/the-magic-economy
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1003 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 09:49
Re: OOC 3
So, no real restrictions on Luxury Stores or Bardic Colleges, since they only produce Minor Magic?
DM
 GM, 4614 posts
Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 10:31
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven Lodovka-Sud (msg # 805):

Correct.  Although the majority of the graduates will be Expert/Entertainers, bardic colleges will produce a few bards and a few Adept/Entertainers - who are capable of creating magic items at L3.

Luxury stores buy items in from all sorts of people such as Masterwork Crafters, and minor casters - and there are enough of those around in Tusk/Midmarch to meet your needs.

Did you spot the amendment to the Religious Development rules that allow you to roll back Holy Houses, etc?
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1004 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 10:48
Re: OOC 3
No. But it's only if I choose to, correct? Somehow, I think the god of imbibement would be a welcome patron of merchants, as the wine trade is among the most profitable of goods.
DM
 GM, 4615 posts
Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 11:29
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
No. But it's only if I choose to, correct? Somehow, I think the god of imbibement would be a welcome patron of merchants, as the wine trade is among the most profitable of goods.

Only if you choose to.

However, you have to work the religious expenditure so that it compliments one of these ...

Freedom, Ale, Wine, Bravery, Brewers, Vintners, Barkeeps, Innkeepers, Good Adventurers, Chaos, Charm, Good, Strength, Travel, Azata, Competition, Exploration, Ferocity, Love, Lust or Resolve.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1005 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 13:07
Re: OOC 3
What does that mean, 'work the religious expenditure'? And what is Azata?
DM
 GM, 4616 posts
Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 14:50
Re: OOC 3
The BP from the magic income  generated by the Holy House needs to be spent on something that fits those categories.

Azata are a sort of Angelic Being -  in this case this is a clerical subdomain that is associated with them.  I would suggest that Good and Azata (in particular) are really difficult to leverage.

The easiest ones to leverage are going to be

Ale, Wine, Bravery, Brewers, Vintners, Barkeeps, Innkeepers and, perhaps,  Travel.

If you build taverns in villages along trade routes (with the Magic Income generated by the Holy House)  you can hit  all of those 'easy' interests.

You can then spend the income from the taverns however you like.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1006 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 15:05
Re: OOC 3
Might it also be spent on vessels like fishing boats, shallops, or mule trains?

Building taverns along trade routes means dealing with local taxes, balancing out Economy with stability and loyalty in those places, and generally spending more than you make out of it.
DM
 GM, 4618 posts
Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 16:03
Re: OOC 3
Seeing as Travel is one of his domains -  then yes.
DM
 GM, 4620 posts
Wed 31 Mar 2021
at 15:41
Re: OOC 3
I have just added a few more buildings to the Urban Civic developments list.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....s2:strongholds:civic

I have to find a way to add some Loyalty to the mix - It is amazing what trying to build a city / city district in one go, can do for you. (you will be able to read about the expanded Restov soon)

I think, perhaps a couple of sporting area type things.  What was it  ... 'Beer and Circuses' to keep the masses happy?
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1172 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Wed 31 Mar 2021
at 20:59
Re: OOC 3
Theater's? Shopping districts? ooh I know an outlet mall. That seems to work in the US.
DM
 GM, 4621 posts
Wed 31 Mar 2021
at 21:18
Re: OOC 3
However, I suspect they are all privately owned, and run for profit, rather than boosting Loyalty to the government / rulers.  They certainly are in this country.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 108 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Wed 31 Mar 2021
at 23:30
Re: OOC 3

 It can be a bit of a two-fer. Part of the glut of shopping malls in the US is due to an advantageous tax break that went on for a while.

 And don't forget the virtue of obvious government sponsorship of necessary services - a particularly beautiful example being the sewer pumping stations of London...

 ...no, seriously. Look at this glorious thing:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ness_Pumping_Station
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1173 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 01:12
Re: OOC 3
Public transit???
Marceline Gray
 player, 288 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 01:22
Re: OOC 3
I mean, as much as Pathfinder seems determined to remain in medieval stasis, there's no real reason why there couldn't be a form of public transport - a rotation of wagons on a schedule doesn't feel too crazy or 'unrealistic' given that Golarion has a half-dozen fantasy concept mashed into a single continent.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 109 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 02:28
Re: OOC 3

 Not to mention telecommunications.

 https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Clacks
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 1174 posts
 Lord Ringbridge
 Knight Commander
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 02:34
Re: OOC 3
Couldn’t they have a Riverboat? Or multiple boats traveling on a schedule?

And there should be some sort of old school postal service leveraging caravans, wagon trains and horses or magic of some means.
DM
 GM, 4622 posts
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 07:10
Re: OOC 3
*grin*  Interesting ideas, and some of them are already written into the rules.

To some extent, tax breaks for Shopping Malls and even regular  transport systems are written into the tax rules.  You guys get the lowest tax rate and highest commercial profitability of all  the published areas/towns/cities.
Both have come to prominence (in the real world) with the rise of the Service Economy where countries shift their economic focus from farming and manufacturing towards hairdressing  interior design, the music / film industry (etc) shopping as a leisure activity.  Modern activities that need  peasants / commoners (ie you and me)  to have quite a lot of leisure time and a decent income.    That needs good technology,  long distance transport and communications (or an Empire) that gets you cheap food (etc) from abroad.  Anyway, enough philosophy …  I can go on all day about things like that, I find it fascinating.  If any of you are bored and need something to read -  see if you can find J D Bernal’s Science in History – It has some marvellous examples of technology from across history.  The ancient Greeks (for example)  had a mechanical Taxi Meter that worked out what to charge passengers, according to the distance travelled ..
But, enough of that.  You guys already have the tax breaks for that, built into the economic system.  Really good tax and profitability rates for businesses -  and there are  regular boats, ships, mule trains travelling between the various settlements.

We have sewers as well , actually two different ways of doing it.  Paved streets and good guttering are both possible.  If you look at the map of Tusk http://rp.baileymail.net/lib/e...egion:tusk:tusk3.gif  The sand-coloured districts have paved streets (the rest are just mud streets)  There are rules for surface drains, public fresh water fountains and street lights.

Underground sewerage systems (as per London’s sewers) are much more expensive  as you have to dig (at that is really expensive.    However, that does suggest that Night Soil collectors could be a public service  - and is possibly worth a couple of points of Loyalty.  I would be happy with any ruler who took my Poo away regularly (when there isn’t any sewage system)

As for telecoms, I have been looking in to it  :)   Magically, it is quite expensive, and I don’t trust the Kobolds to run the clacks.  (BTW, I have property deeds for a house in Treacle Mine Road here, somewhere.  That was an Xmas present from my son, a few years ago.)

I think I am tempted to add a ‘Public Arena’ as well -  Both the Greeks and Romans used cheap public entertainment to keep the plebs on-side – and I am sure that I can re-flavour that for Ancient Taldans ….

A stadium  (a nice Roman word)  that can host horse races , foot races, throwing contests, spectacles (such as a Military Tattoo and ‘Animal Hunts’) – Oh, and a regular Scrymball season where district teams compete against each other.  (And no, I am not joking)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1007 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 07:43
Re: OOC 3
Sounds like I need to recruit Harry King ("King of the Golden River") as an entourage to handle a potentially valuable service/business.

As for contests, Chariot Races are always fun to watch......
DM
 GM, 4623 posts
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 07:52
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
As for contests, Chariot Races are always fun to watch......


I wasn't thinking quite that big -   but flat out Sulky racing would work, around a small enclosed course.  It would be absolute mayhem ...   Just like a chariot race :)

Although I am not sure the druids would approve ....
DM
 GM, 4624 posts
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 08:38
Re: OOC 3
Oooohh -  I think I have got magical 'land line' type connectivity down to about 15k per unit ....
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 110 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 13:39
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 821):

 They are lawful, as well as natural mechanical engineers... They might do shockingly well at it. ^_^
DM
 GM, 4625 posts
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 15:11
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Vova doMedvyed (msg # 825):

*grins* although they are inherently evil and will find ways to use all of that information to their advantage.  Ye Gods, the Facebook, Google and Amazon of the Clacks ....

Note: Other big data collectors are available.  Please feel free to add your own favourites to the list.  Palantir was named very appropriately  :)
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 111 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 16:40
Re: OOC 3

 Bah, evil schmeeval. Give them a niche and a purpose and a measure of resurrect and you can work on that... Besides, it's better than a gnome infestation.
DM
 GM, 4626 posts
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 19:51
Re: OOC 3
I've been playing with the Community Developments page.  There are a few more options, and it is a bit more coherent  :)

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....mmunity#developments
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1008 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 20:08
Re: OOC 3
So the community Hall I built in the hamlet will generate bp? 0.25 bp per turn? I assume that such bp can only be spent on the community?
DM
 GM, 4627 posts
Thu 1 Apr 2021
at 20:28
Re: OOC 3
Yep.  Although I suspect, in that particular case, that income will be distributed directly to members of the community -  perhaps used to finance small local events,   such as barn dances.  I assume you don't want to give up space in the Hamlet for extra community projects as that would affect your ability to build a Local Base for V&A. :)

Not a loss to you personally or V&A, as you built the community Hall under the old rules when it only cost 1bp, rather than under the new rules where it costs 1.5bp.

It does, however, keep you in good stead with the locals :)
DM
 GM, 4631 posts
Sat 3 Apr 2021
at 09:12
Re: OOC 3
I have just added a section on the outer districts of Restov -  which you can find linked from the main Restov wiki page.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....:brevoy:restov:start
DM
 GM, 4632 posts
Sun 4 Apr 2021
at 12:10
Re: OOC 3
More on The Eastern Association, East Rostland and Sirian.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....en_land:start#brevoy

This message was last edited by the GM at 12:10, Sun 04 Apr.

DM
 GM, 4633 posts
Mon 5 Apr 2021
at 08:44
Re: OOC 3
Once I get started ...   A further blog on the Magic Economy

http://galinia.org.uk/the-magic-economy-2
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1009 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Mon 5 Apr 2021
at 09:17
Re: OOC 3
So Bardic Colleges, Luxury Stores, and Holy Houses will only put out 0.5 bp in Magic Economy per turn, but will cost 1 bp less to build?
DM
 GM, 4634 posts
Mon 5 Apr 2021
at 10:13
Re: OOC 3
I have just added a section to the Blog post that looks at the effects of applying those changes.  It keeps things really simple (as far as  management goes), upgrades some buildings, and adds another religious  development.

The overall effect is a reduction in magic income, but that is reflected in the purchase price of the development.
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1165 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Mon 5 Apr 2021
at 13:50
Re: OOC 3
OK, have I got this right?

For religious developments the possible sequence of upgrades (and cumulative BP cost at each stage) would be like this:
  • Shrine(0.5)-> Great Shrine(1)-> Holy Grove(3)
  • Shrine(0.5)-> Great Shrine(1)-> Holy House(2)-> Friary(3.5)-> Priory(5.5)-> Abbey(8)
  • Shrine(0.5)-> Great Shrine(1)-> Holy House(2)-> Chapel(3.5)-> Temple(6)-> Minster(8.5)-> Cathedral(11)


Income generated (from the Magic Economy value of the religious development) increases as the cumulative BP cost of the development increases as follows:
  •   2.0BP religious development generates 0.5BP per turn
  •   3.0BP religious development generates 1.0BP per turn
  •   3.5BP religious development generates 1.0BP per turn
  •   5.5BP religious development generates 1.5BP per turn
  •   6.0BP religious development generates 1.5BP per turn
  •   8.0BP religious development generates 2.0BP per turn
  •   8.5BP religious development generates 2.0BP per turn
  • 11.0BP religious development generates 2.5BP per turn


A graveyard can be added to any other religious building (except a shrine or great shrine) as an 'upgrade' (costs 1BP, adds +1 Loyalty and +1 Stability, generates no income).
DM
 GM, 4635 posts
Mon 5 Apr 2021
at 14:04
Re: OOC 3
That looks about right.  I think it gives achievable, but differentiated, upgrade routes, although I am not going to complain, if someone decides to move between upgrade routes, in mid development.


Your analysis implies that I need to look at the Holy Grove route, and slide a Holy House equivalent in the development route somewhere and, perhaps, reflavour other developments for a Greater Grove and the Druid's Grove, -  etc.

Yep, that whole upgrade route needs a bit of thought.
Kiera Raincutter-Solanus
 player, 306 posts
Tue 6 Apr 2021
at 00:56
Re: OOC 3
Hmmm... downtime thread is open... I'm about done with a post for my group.... and with everyone out of town... I think it's about time for a "But back in Tusk..." style twist to things going on, hehe...
DM
 GM, 4638 posts
Tue 6 Apr 2021
at 13:59
Re: OOC 3
The economic changes are all coming together in a variety of different ways, that will help me with the system immensely.  However, it is also making me realise there is much more it could do, now that it has been simplified.

DON'T PANIC - I am not going to implement any massive changes -  however, it is good for me to write them down - it helps me think them through) and gives me some notes for next time I use these rules.

http://galinia.org.uk/thoughts-on-the-economy-rules

As always, I would be interested to hear your views on these.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1010 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 6 Apr 2021
at 17:58
Re: OOC 3
I think your example numbers are off.

But Tax is at the discretion of the council.  Standard tax generates 0.2bp per pint of econ in the economy.

I can see, in some circumstances, city rulers putting tax up – lets say to 2.5bp per point of economy.  That would result in a 0.5 reduction in business profitability – and a possible slowing of the economy and settlement growth.

OOC- Shouldn't that be 0.25 bp per Econ pt and 0.05 bp reduction in profitibility?


A council might also drop tax– lets say to 1.5bp per point of economy.  That would result in a 0.5 increase in business profitability – which might result in  the economy and settlement growth, speeding up.

OOC- Shouldn't that be 0.15 and 0.05 respectively?
DM
 GM, 4639 posts
Tue 6 Apr 2021
at 18:18
Re: OOC 3
Yes.  I'll change it.  Thank you.
DM
 GM, 4640 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 08:01
Re: OOC 3
Bear with me, folks.  I have had a bad cold for the last couple of days, and it has been making me feel a bit jelly-brained.  There probably won't be any serious posts until the weekend.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 499 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Sat 10 Apr 2021
at 18:16
Re: OOC 3
Aw, hope you feel better!   No fun.

Good stuff, once again, on the downtime thread, Kiera. Will look forward to seeing how it plays out!
DM
 GM, 4649 posts
Fri 16 Apr 2021
at 11:50
Re: OOC 3
You all know I have been playing with the economic part of the campaign rules - now they are starting to coalesce into a coherent set of changes. This is partly the result of some of your comments, and partly because I have started to see new relationships between different parts of the Economy as I have been reworking the spreadsheets.

http://galinia.org.uk/economic-structure

As always, comments and thoughts are welcome, and changes can still be made ...
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1012 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Sat 17 Apr 2021
at 08:46
Re: OOC 3
Can someone explain to me WHY I am being compensated 2 bp? Last time I checked, only the tax rate was being modified on Magic Economy....it wasn't being eliminated.

And if all SPECIAL Economy is to be taxed, will myself and others be 'compensated' for our existing Trade Routes, City/Town/Local bases, and Transportation assets (Mule/ox trains and fishing boats/shallops/etc) no longer profiting as much?

This message was last edited by the player at 09:05, Sat 17 Apr.

DM
 GM, 4655 posts
Sat 17 Apr 2021
at 10:08
Re: OOC 3
You are being compensated because under the new version of the Magic Economy rules, all magical building generate income differently, and some (Holy Houses, Priories, Temples and Cathedrals) produce a lower return than previously.

In the past, your Holy House would have produced 1bp as income.  In future, it will generate 0.5bp income.  One BP compensation represents should allow you to purchase a new Economic Utility (such as a fishing boat) to replace the lost income.

You will note that the new system for purchasing developments outside of Tusk/Midmarch doesn't rely on cash conversions -  but treats all BPs equally.

Other magic producing businesses, such as Exotic Workshops, are also affected.  It gives a smoother progression  and makes it easier for PCs to grow their churches and magical businesses.

Your general business income won't change at all, under the new economy rules - you still make the exactly the same income from your vessels, bases and trade routes :)  However, the settlement now makes some money from them as well, and it makes my spreadsheets much simpler  :)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1016 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 20 Apr 2021
at 14:41
Re: OOC 3
Is Domitius now an actual SwordLord? May I ask if he got the title through taking the PrC, or some other path?
DM
 GM, 4661 posts
Tue 20 Apr 2021
at 15:22
Re: OOC 3
Yes, Dom is a Swordlord.  Character builds are down to PCs to share, if they choose to :)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1017 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 20 Apr 2021
at 15:25
Re: OOC 3
What are the paths to SwordLord? The PrC I know about. I'm getting ready to enter the duelist class myself, maybe.
DM
 GM, 4662 posts
Tue 20 Apr 2021
at 17:54
Re: OOC 3
From This page  http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ter&s[]=duellist


There are three main routes to becoming a Swordlord.

Swordlord (Fighter Archetype) – the mainstream approach used by the majority of Aldori families and their troops. When they achieve level five they are known as a Swordlord Elect (Think Brown Belt). Level six gains them full Swordlord status (Think Black belt)

Swordlord (Prestige Class) – The best route for anyone who didn’t follow the Swordlord archetype – and even some that have. Qualifying for and achieving a single level of the Swordlord Prestige Class earns you Swordlord Status.

Duellist (Prestige Class) – An unusual way to qualify, but still possible. Someone trained in a different class, but proficient with an Aldori Duelling Sword, may well be given Swordlord status when they qualify as a duellist. However, they will have to prove their ability in a duel.




In Restov, Masters in other styles are often given the honorary title of Swordlord.


These are the ways to become a master duellist in the traditional style. Falcata and Buckler


Buckler Duellist (Fighter Archetype) – the approach chosen by most characters who choose to make a career as a Traditional Duellist. When they gain Level Six they are known as master Dualists.

Duellist (Combat Feat) – This feat give a character with basic falcata and buckler skills a boost. Someone with this feat and, at least, BAB 6 might be awarded Master Duellist status.

These are the ways to become a master duellist in the modern style.  (Rapier)

Learned Duellist (Fighter Archetype) – This is a career path taken mainly by fighters with an aristocratic background, of one sort or another. It is a good way to improve your status in aristocratic society.

Duellist (Prestige Class) – this is the most common career path for a Modern Master Duellist, as it offers a straightforward route into high level duelling for characters from many classes. Rogues and Bards are the obvious beneficiaries by any ‘combat’ character will have proficiency with rapiers and light blades, and most other classes can learn proficiency with at least one light blade. It is a common route for NPCs with the Aristocrat NPC class, as it can help them gain and maintain status in Aristocratic Circles.

This message was last edited by the GM at 17:55, Tue 20 Apr.

Minia
 Player, 102 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 19/15/14 hp 9/24
Tue 20 Apr 2021
at 23:29
Re: OOC 3
This is relevant to my interests^
DM
 GM, 4663 posts
Wed 21 Apr 2021
at 06:41
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Minia (msg # 851):

You might be interested in this page as well.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....n_land:brevoy:aldori


I suppose I should try and pull all of this information together on one page ...
Marceline Gray
 player, 291 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Wed 21 Apr 2021
at 22:22
Re: OOC 3
I have angered the dice gods somehow. I haven't rolled higher than a 5 since Sunday, so here's to being a load in combat :/
DM
 GM, 4664 posts
Thu 22 Apr 2021
at 08:23
Re: OOC 3
While I still want to do some work on Aldori Troop Types, I have expanded and updated the main Aldori page.  I don't think I have changed anything previously written, but I have expanded it and added a bit more context

stolen_land:brevoy:aldori

It will be useful for anyone who is interested in RPing an Aldori heritage, and (possibly) for those of you on the Diplomatic Visit to Sirian
~Tobias Lodkova
 NPC e, 13 posts
 V&A Diplomat
Thu 22 Apr 2021
at 14:29
Re: OOC 3
Was that supposed to be a Link?
DM
 GM, 4665 posts
Thu 22 Apr 2021
at 15:29
Re: OOC 3
Yeah. It was the shortened version that I use for the wiki  :(  Try this one.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....n_land:brevoy:aldori

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:29, Thu 22 Apr.

Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 502 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Fri 23 Apr 2021
at 01:34
Re: OOC 3
Marceline Gray:
I have angered the dice gods somehow. I haven't rolled higher than a 5 since Sunday, so here's to being a load in combat :/


I just rolled 5 with 3d6!   Ah, it's contagious!
Marceline Gray
 player, 292 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Fri 23 Apr 2021
at 21:26
Re: OOC 3
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus:
Marceline Gray:
I have angered the dice gods somehow. I haven't rolled higher than a 5 since Sunday, so here's to being a load in combat :/


I just rolled 5 with 3d6!   Ah, it's contagious!


Nooooo if I gotta pass it on at least let me give it to the baddies!
DM
 GM, 4666 posts
Fri 23 Apr 2021
at 21:44
Re: OOC 3
With the rolls my monsters have had against you guys, I  think they infected you!
DM
 GM, 4672 posts
Wed 28 Apr 2021
at 15:13
Re: OOC 3
I have been talking to a couple of people about different types of building -  which has prompted me to put some of my floor plans on the wiki.  Some of these go back years before this game started ...

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....dard_buildings:start
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 505 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Wed 28 Apr 2021
at 19:19
Re: OOC 3
Well, I'm glad there no table for mortgages.   Let's never get that realistic.  I play fantasy games to escape that kind of thing.  ;)
DM
 GM, 4673 posts
Wed 28 Apr 2021
at 19:43
Re: OOC 3
*grin*  Don't go to the bank for a loan ....  they charge interest :)

Seriously though, those are mainly there to give people a bit of an idea about different levels of accommodation, and also to show that there is flexibility.  However, you can still describe your own homes  :)

I often draw plans for buildings (etc)  when I am not feeling up to anything more serious.  They also help me to get a handle on some elements of my own RP, so many of those were done with characters (from other games) in mind.

Posting them now was convenient -  partly because of a couple of conversations, and partly because I haven't been feeling all that good this week, and messing around with a wiki page doesn't take a lot of thought  :)
DM
 GM, 4680 posts
Mon 3 May 2021
at 15:04
Re: OOC 3
Someone started my on Roman names ...  but not all that much came out of it.

http://galinia.org.uk/wp-admin...=390&action=edit
DM
 GM, 4687 posts
Tue 11 May 2021
at 12:11
Re: OOC 3
I have been doing a lot of work on the spreadsheets that I use to manage the finances recently, and have redesigned them to meet the new criteria we have spoken about, and to automate them a bit more.

Rather than individual spreadsheets for each holding, I have one for Midmarch, one for Greater Tusk and another for organisations that have developments in multiple settlements.  The last includes sheets for DELEM, V&A, WSM, Church of Abadar, Pharasma etc - which has made it much easier to create the financial information I create for each character at the start of a campaign round.

To save a bit more time  (extracting data and posting it separately takes a while) I am considering publishing complete versions of all three spreadsheets on the wiki.  That doesn't make any real difference to the settlements, as their data is published anyway,  BUT it would make the financial data for the businesses public for the first time -  although most of it could be extracted from the other sources anyway.

Does anyone have any problems with the new, more open, approach?
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1176 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Tue 11 May 2021
at 14:12
Re: OOC 3
That's fine by me. :o)
Marik Aeris
 Player, 418 posts
 Lord-Dominus
Tue 11 May 2021
at 14:21
Re: OOC 3
That works for me.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1024 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 11 May 2021
at 16:25
Re: OOC 3
No problem.
DM
 GM, 4689 posts
Wed 12 May 2021
at 13:00
Re: OOC 3
I have added a Regional Organization page to the wiki - that gives a basic overview of  the largest businesses, churches and charities in the region.  The Finance details for DELEM, V&A, WSM, Abadar etc are all linked at the top of the page.

I have also added spreadsheets to the top of the Midmarch and Tusk pages, with details of current finances (under the new system) for each settlement.  I have left the original  Spreadsheets in  place, so you can cross-check.  If you aren't happy, PM me.

I'll get on with individual finances later in the week.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....southernregion:start
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 116 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Thu 13 May 2021
at 06:42
Re: OOC 3

 Well damn, didn't we write a lot of posts!
Rana Nervetti
 player, 169 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Thu 13 May 2021
at 11:04
Re: OOC 3
Congrats on getting post number 20,000, Vova! I'm sure that deserves an XP bonus! :)

This message was last edited by the player at 13:54, Thu 13 May.

DM
 GM, 4690 posts
Thu 13 May 2021
at 11:08
Re: OOC 3
*grin*  I'm going to go and delete a lot of posts now ......  Only joking  :P
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 117 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Thu 13 May 2021
at 17:09
Re: OOC 3

 I won't lie, I saw we were at 19,998 and felt compelled to comment. ^_^
DM
 GM, 4691 posts
Fri 14 May 2021
at 12:25
Re: OOC 3
*Phew*  I think I have all of the personal finances up to date now  link to a message in this game

Combined with the business and settlement spreadsheets every one should have enough information to plan for the next campaign round.

The next campaign round is due to start on 21 June ...  However, I am going away for two weeks in early June - and I'll be camping out in a very rural country park, with limited internet and limited IT ....

I  have also tweaked the Community Development rules.  Now you can get a small return from community investments - although not as much as if you invested in a commercial property.
Viktoria Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 564 posts
 24/34 Co-Owner
 V&A Shipping
Sun 16 May 2021
at 15:21
Re: OOC 3
In terms of available healing Vova, how much can you spare? I was about 20 down before so with two nights of resting should be 10 down. A single cure light wounds might suffice, or two if the first roll is abysmal (though I'll live, I think . . .)
Minia
 Player, 106 posts
 Urchin swordfighter
 AC 19/15/14 hp 17/24
Sun 16 May 2021
at 15:27
Re: OOC 3
After rest I'm about 7 hp down so I'll take a cure wounds then. I'll add the amount once I hear back from Vova though, just in case there's people more in need than me.
DM
 GM, 4696 posts
Sun 16 May 2021
at 15:48
Re: OOC 3
I've been thinking about armed vessels this weekend (Blame Adoven!)

http://galinia.org.uk/armed-vessels


Now all I need to do is get the model NPCs up on the website  :)
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 119 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Mon 17 May 2021
at 06:31
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Viktoria Lodovka-Sud (msg # 874):

 Vova has four first level priest spells each day. We have rested twice since everyone was last hurt, and it does not seem unreasonable to me that folks might have asked to be patched up in that intervening time.

 So, potentially a maximum of 8(D8+1)?
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 608 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Mon 17 May 2021
at 09:13
Re: OOC 3
DM:
I've been thinking about armed vessels this weekend (Blame Adoven!)

http://galinia.org.uk/armed-vessels


Now all I need to do is get the model NPCs up on the website  :)


Interesting, though historically pirates operated smaller vessels with oversized crews mostly sloops and brigs.  Thoigh it does depend on the time period.  The English channel used to be a hotbed of piracy and the would have used cogs and caravels I believe.

Still neither of those is Golarion or on a river system.
DM
 GM, 4698 posts
Mon 17 May 2021
at 11:34
Re: OOC 3
Yep -  modern examples of the same sort of thing with the Somali pirates,  historically, there were the Barbary pirates who specialized in small vessels and similar examples from the Caribbean in the 18th century.

On the river (IMO) you are more likely to get attacks by twenty bandits jammed into two fishing boats, rather than a galleon patrolling the Golden Maine ...

The Shallop with a double unit of marines, is (in some ways) a nod towards those small vessel pirates :)
DM
 GM, 4699 posts
Wed 19 May 2021
at 09:06
Re: OOC 3
I have added a couple of small military vessels to the Civic Military page - http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....strongholds:military

And documented crews for armed (and normal) vessels on this page - http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ews#crew_composition

I know that isn't too important for most of you, but it helps me keep things consistent, IF those vessels come into play later.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1026 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Wed 19 May 2021
at 09:30
Re: OOC 3
You have Local Patrol vessel listed as cost of 1, providing 0 Defense. I'm guessing that should be 1 Defense?
DM
 GM, 4700 posts
Wed 19 May 2021
at 10:11
Re: OOC 3
Thank you.  I have changed it now.
Marceline Gray
 player, 296 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Thu 20 May 2021
at 02:26
Re: OOC 3
Spoilerish GM question for Narlmarch!
DM
 GM, 4701 posts
Thu 20 May 2021
at 07:31
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Marceline Gray (msg # 883):

You can know that  :)
DM
 GM, 4702 posts
Fri 21 May 2021
at 15:09
Re: OOC 3
It is that time of year when people ask for things.

I am thinking of reworking the 'leisure' development opportunities.  However, I am interested in your thoughts first.  If I do this, I will amend the Hospitality and Civic lists to match  (although I don't think that affects anyone's holdings)

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ems2:busorgs:leisure

I am interested in your thoughts on this.
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 613 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Sat 22 May 2021
at 02:51
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 885):

Looks good to me, indoor and outdoor activities seem pretty covered.
DM
 GM, 4709 posts
Wed 26 May 2021
at 10:15
Re: OOC 3
Just a heads-up -  I am going away on holiday, from the 5th June, for two weeks - and I will have even less internet access than normal.

I am going to be based ion a campsite in the middle of a National Park - so most of my access will be from my phone.  That means no books, no maps and, possibly, no updates for adventure threads.

When I get back, we will go almost straight into the Campaign Round - so a quiet couple of weeks to plan ...  (and negotiate any OOC agreements between characters).  I think I have all the threads up to date.  A couple of people identified minor errors in the spreadsheets, but I will update them all next week, before I go.

Feel free to chat/play in any of the fuzzy or location threads while I am away.
DM
 GM, 4710 posts
Thu 27 May 2021
at 08:56
Re: OOC 3
I have formalised the Sports and leisure category of developments - so they are now available for the next Campaign Round.

I have also 'designed' another team sport that could be played in stadia and on sports fields.  Bunt Ball is a cross between baseball, rounders and various forms of cricket - and has the potential to be absolute mayhem!

http://galinia.org.uk/bunt-ball
Marik Aeris
 Player, 421 posts
 Lord-Dominus
Thu 27 May 2021
at 22:55
Re: OOC 3
Just a heads-up, I'll be on vacation tomorrow through Monday with limited internet access.
DM
 GM, 4717 posts
Sun 30 May 2021
at 08:24
Re: OOC 3
All three adventure threads updated.  I expect to get another set of updates into those threads either Thursday or Friday - after that I am away from my computer, with only occasional posting, until 19th/20th June.

Let me know if you want any other Fuzzy threads opened up.  We  have the 'party' and I intend to  bump the duelling salon thread - these are a good way to start a conversation with characters from groups (or some of the PC run entourages)

Also think about the Fuzzies that you would like me to start as part of the Campaign Round.
  • Trip to Restov?  For shopping, socializing and catching the Cup Final game?
  • Another duelling competition (with you guys running your own combats)
  • A walk in the forest  (a relatively safe part of it with no adventure/combat)
  • Something else?

Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1030 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Sun 30 May 2021
at 08:49
Re: OOC 3
Still hoping to clear Candlemear. Do I need to recruit for that so I can build there?
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 121 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Sun 30 May 2021
at 08:54
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven Lodovka-Sud (msg # 891):

 Hey, no fair! I had my eye on that!

 I was going to build my own temple-cum-mage-hall. With blackjack! And hookers!
DM
 GM, 4718 posts
Sun 30 May 2021
at 09:10
Re: OOC 3
Candlemere is on my agenda for when Group 1 has finished their current quest  :)

I want both Ethankos and Marceline available - after all, that place should be their bread and butter.  Laying that place to rest, aligns (sort of) with their published Character Goals, and it would be remiss of me if I didn't give them that chance.

If things do according to plan, there will be quite a major party reshuffle, when Group 1 (eventually) gets back.

@Vova - I am afraid Adoven has been laying claim to Candlemere for ages -  and he has the backing of Tusk council  :)
DM
 GM, 4719 posts
Sun 30 May 2021
at 12:23
Re: OOC 3
I have just republished the finance spreadsheets.  Remember that the up-to-date version is at the top of each section now.
DM
 GM, 4720 posts
Sun 30 May 2021
at 13:24
Re: OOC 3
You may also use the time I am away to advance any  Entourage members who will be eligible for advancement during the campaign round.  (1/2 your level rounded down)

For entourage-Cousins and assistants it is 2/3 your level - rounded down.  The only Entourage-Cousins/Assistants that I am aware of, who can advance are Lutz and Robert.

You may also want to decide whether to take on  a new entourage assistant (if you have a slot available.  You are allowed (level/2)+ Cha bonus.
Vova doMedvyed
 player, 122 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Sun 30 May 2021
at 19:44
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 893):

 I think the only connection Vova really has to it is that Nethys is pushing him in the direction of the loony priest and the hole in the world. It'll probably be fine if someone else sits on it. ^_^
Marik Aeris
 Player, 422 posts
 Lord-Dominus
Sun 30 May 2021
at 20:08
Re: OOC 3
DM:
You may also want to decide whether to take on  a new entourage assistant (if you have a slot available.  You are allowed (level/2)+ Cha bonus.


I thought you could only add entourage members when you gained a level? Am I misremembering that?

This message was last edited by the player at 20:11, Sun 30 May.

DM
 GM, 4722 posts
Sun 30 May 2021
at 20:29
Re: OOC 3
quote:
Recruitment: You may only recruit one Entourage-Assistant per level.


Some people haven't yet recruited for their current level.

This message was last edited by the GM at 21:28, Sun 30 May.

Vova doMedvyed
 player, 123 posts
 It's easy to make a mess
 when you don't clean up!
Sun 30 May 2021
at 21:23
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 898):

 Haven't really met anyone who seems suitable!
DM
 GM, 4728 posts
Tue 1 Jun 2021
at 08:04
Re: OOC 3
The dice have decided that Valaria (lady Ringbridge), Allana (Marik's Entourage) and Svetlana (NPC Mayor of Oston) have given birth this year.

I generally use a 33% chance for all female NPCs in a relationship.  I do not roll for other female characters -  assuming that they are career women who are not currently interested in children - at the moment.

However, if you want any of your female entourages (or similarly associated Characters) to join that list -  please tell me  :)  Pregnancy & childbirth is ALWAYS a choice for Female PCs.
Marceline Gray
 player, 300 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Tue 1 Jun 2021
at 19:33
Re: OOC 3
DM:
Candlemere is on my agenda for when Group 1 has finished their current quest  :)

I want both Ethankos and Marceline available - after all, that place should be their bread and butter.  Laying that place to rest, aligns (sort of) with their published Character Goals, and it would be remiss of me if I didn't give them that chance.


Is that the currently abandoned tower down in the Narlmarches? Or a different one? Either way, Marcy is up for sanctifying and helping the dead move on.

Also are entourages the NPCs that look after your buildings/houses/ect?
DM
 GM, 4729 posts
Tue 1 Jun 2021
at 21:25
Re: OOC 3

Is that the currently abandoned tower down in the Narlmarches? Or a different one?

That is the Tower on an island, marked on the map between  Mudbowl and Hex 52.

so are entourages the NPCs that look after your buildings/houses/ect?

Pretty much.  All buildings come with the appropriate staff to run them - but entourages let you RP a bit more, if you want to.

DM
 GM, 4730 posts
Wed 2 Jun 2021
at 19:49
Re: OOC 3
Guys, for those of you with Business or Settlement accounts -  please can you check them now.  Some people are having trouble seeing the tabs on the Spreadsheet.  It might be that you need Excel to see the whole of the work book.

If you can't see your account, let me know ASAP.  I won't be able to do anything about it while I am away.  I leave bright and early on Saturday morning  (UK time)

Business: http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....es_and_organizations

Tusk: http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ernregion:tusk:start

Midmarch: http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....egion:midmarch:start
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 617 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Thu 3 Jun 2021
at 00:56
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 903):

Spotted a couple of things
WSM, Tusk shop is under special not taxed in the business sheet but it's right in the Tusk Sheet.

Tusk sheet WSM local base hasn't got a number in the special field
DM
 GM, 4731 posts
Thu 3 Jun 2021
at 06:07
Re: OOC 3
Spotted a couple of things  Thank you


WSM, Tusk shop is under special not taxed in the business sheet but it's right in the Tusk Sheet.
Tusk looks fine -  I think was Oston.  However, I have fixed that on my master sheers.

Tusk sheet WSM local base hasn't got a number in the special field
fixed that on the master sheet as well.
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 618 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Thu 3 Jun 2021
at 06:24
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 905):

Happy to help
DM
 GM, 4732 posts
Thu 3 Jun 2021
at 08:27
Re: OOC 3
PM
Andalon de Lebeda
 Player, 1183 posts
 Bishop at Cathedral of
 Abadar in Tusk City
Thu 3 Jun 2021
at 15:10
Re: OOC 3
In reply to DM (msg # 903):

Looks fine on my desktop computer.

The only thing I would query was on the greater_tusk_finances_new_system / Tusk worksheet, under Hinterland there are 4 hamlets all with description "Hamlet Full". Should only LeMaistre House be full?

I presume the section for the unnamed District 3 on that Tusk worksheet is just a blank template for the next district? We haven't created another a new vacant district yet, have we? Maybe add a note under Description to clarify it doesn't exist yet and we haven't put any BP into establishing that next new district yet.
DM
 GM, 4733 posts
Thu 3 Jun 2021
at 15:55
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Andalon de Lebeda (msg # 908):

Correct on both counts. Cut & Paste happy!    I have made the changes in the Master SS, although not uploaded it to the website.
Marik Aeris
 Player, 424 posts
 Lord-Dominus
Fri 4 Jun 2021
at 00:45
Re: OOC 3
DM, are you going to make 4176 Development Threads before you leave, so we can start hashing out building development plans while you're gone?
~Percy Arndell
 NPC p, 452 posts
 Gentleman and Poet
 "Oh. Hello."
Fri 4 Jun 2021
at 06:52
Re: OOC 3
If it helps ... I've seen problems with spreadsheets before when they're viewed in a browser rather than the native program ?  When I had that issue I saved the spreadsheet locally and opened the copy.
DM
 GM, 4735 posts
Fri 4 Jun 2021
at 07:11
Re: OOC 3
I wasn't going to -  but I'll give it some thought.

I normally take quite an active role in all of those threads .....
DM
 GM, 4741 posts
Sun 20 Jun 2021
at 07:13
Re: OOC 3
I'm back!  That said, I have a lot of unpacking to do  (The kitchen was refurbished while we were away)

Had a great time - lots of Roman ruins, Hadrian's wall and bits of Border Reiver history -Puffins around the Farne Islands, a bit of Falconry and a bit of country walking.  Oh, nearly forgot, Alnwick Castle and a trip to an astronomical observatory on one of the cloudiest nights of the year.

I'll start updating adventure threads (it might take me a couple of days to get up to speed)then get straight into the PM questions and downtime posts.
DM
 GM, 4743 posts
Sun 20 Jun 2021
at 16:58
Re: OOC 3
Following a PM discussion with a Player, who pointed out that armed vessels don't take up any more space than unarmed vessels. I have modified the way that armed vessels work.

Costs have come down, but income has been decreased accordingly.  Armed caravans have not been changed.

These Def points now count towards Noble Titles, BUT not towards a settlement's defence.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....special_developments
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1040 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 22 Jun 2021
at 01:38
Re: OOC 3
I have plans for Ringbridge this turn, but I'm still waiting to hear from Cyrus.

Boss, I generate 0.3 bp per turn in Mivon. Am I STILL paying an extra 1 bp per Econ added when it comes from those funds?
DM
 GM, 4749 posts
Tue 22 Jun 2021
at 06:07
Re: OOC 3
Yes.  Mivon is a difficult market.  The Rulers of Mivon (The Great Aldori Families) believe that anyone else in Mivon is there to support the Great Aldori Families.

Some of them even think you should be grateful for the chance to earn anything, beyond coppers, at all.

The Dosalic sisters know ...  And even the Yitis Mivon (Aldori but not a Great House) might have some views.
DM
 GM, 4752 posts
Tue 22 Jun 2021
at 18:36
Re: OOC 3
After discussion with a player, I have just changed part of the Entourages page to read ...

quote:
Potential: Levels 4, 5 and 6 are important to your most important Entourage Members.  The Entourage build rules allow you to have a stat at 14 - advancing to level 4 lets you increase that to 15.  At Level ++Level 5|(or higher in some cases)++ the entourage may take a PC class OR  a Prestige classes - so long as they can meet all the prerequisites.  Entourages may never have more than two classes.


http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ople:entourage#build
DM
 GM, 4754 posts
Wed 23 Jun 2021
at 05:54
Re: OOC 3
Guys, please try to post an OOC breakdown of your development requests/plans.  I love the Descriptions, but sometimes it is difficult for me to work out exactly what you want to build.

It might seem a bit pedantic/grumpy -  BUT overall I have to record something like 200bps worth of developments and transactions this campaign round.  With a 50% return rate (across Southern)   that means something like 300bps worth of transactions next year ...  The monster (and the chance of error) grows ...  :)
DM
 GM, 4762 posts
Sat 26 Jun 2021
at 09:54
Re: OOC 3
We appear to have lost Cyrus -  so I will be NPCing him for the foreseeable future.
Rana Nervetti
 player, 179 posts
 A long way from home...
 ...looking for something
Sat 26 Jun 2021
at 12:40
Re: OOC 3
Have you checked the lost and found department or lost luggage?
DM
 GM, 4765 posts
Sun 27 Jun 2021
at 10:36
Re: OOC 3
My thoughts on the recent Fuzzy discussions on titles for NPCs

http://galinia.org.uk/enhancing-npcs

Comments always welcome :)
DM
 GM, 4774 posts
Thu 1 Jul 2021
at 14:47
Re: OOC 3
Just a reminder that any Eligible entourages can go up a level.

Those of you who have not taken an entourage at this current level, may take a new entourage, if you so wish.
DM
 GM, 4777 posts
Sun 4 Jul 2021
at 05:57
Re: OOC 3
Guys, I have some family hassle going down at the moment.  If I am grumpy with you, please bear with me, and ask again later  :)
DM
 GM, 4782 posts
Mon 5 Jul 2021
at 13:30
Re: OOC 3
I have been working through this for a while ....

http://galinia.org.uk/a-new-philosophy
DM
 GM, 4783 posts
Tue 6 Jul 2021
at 08:36
Re: OOC 3
I was in need of some light entertainment this morning -  so I drew up a leMaistre family structure chart.  It isn't a family tree, nor is it a straight forward management chart, nor does it show all the husbands, wives and children, or their roles.  However, it does show the main branches of the family and where they fit in the family pecking order and their sphere of influence.

See the bottom of this page ...  http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....archpeople:lemaistre
~Robert Samuels
 NPC-E Cousin, 14 posts
 Sword Master
 V&A Sword School
Thu 8 Jul 2021
at 00:39
Re: OOC 3
The dueling Salon thread. That is at the V&A sword school, right?
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 629 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Thu 8 Jul 2021
at 02:42
Re: OOC 3
In reply to ~Robert Samuels (msg # 926):

I believe it is yes.
DM
 GM, 4788 posts
Thu 8 Jul 2021
at 05:32
Re: OOC 3
Yes
DM
 GM, 4791 posts
Thu 8 Jul 2021
at 12:16
Re: OOC 3
I have tweaked some of the community developments, so that they focus on Loyalty bonuses.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....mmunity#developments

I probably ought to put a few more items in here.  Any Suggestions?
DM
 GM, 4795 posts
Fri 9 Jul 2021
at 11:55
Re: OOC 3
And it continues ...

I have been thinking about the relationship between Loy, Stab and Def - and The Bad Things Table.  I haven't made any big changes, but I have clarified my thoughts.

http://galinia.org.uk/society-balance-and-settlements

Adoven will be pleased to know that he isn't in  the firing line, this time  :)
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1059 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Fri 9 Jul 2021
at 12:18
Re: OOC 3
This is why I strive to either propose Balanced additions to a city, or additions that bring a city Closer to Balance. It is a worry I have about Kunlun. Too much Loyalty, not enough Stability, Economy, or Defense.
DM
 GM, 4796 posts
Fri 9 Jul 2021
at 12:35
Re: OOC 3
One of the advantages that multi hex holding shave, is that they only have on Stewardship committee, and they balance over the whole of the holding -  ie all hexes.

This means that the Loy and Stab of Kunlun can be balanced by the economic benefits from other hexes in Midmarch estate -  just the provincial hexes  that belong to Henry as Vicount - not The Gates, or the Noble Houses or the 'governed towns' of Oston, Tatzleford and Wyvern Bridge.

That said, I work quite hard to maintain the balance of the provincial hexes, within the stewardship limits of the province.  Kunlun is not going to cause balance problems across Midmarch, and the (mainly) religious folk of Kunlun aren't liable to start a riot.

There is some scope for Economic developments in Kunlun -  For example there is a Tavern, an eating house and even lodgings (now)  for visiting clerics and employees.

Interestingly, It is only Loy that is significantly out of balance.  (Econ+5, Loy+10, Stab+6, Def+1)  The Def value is one point out of range  for a small town (although it is range, as part of the Province of Midmarch)
DM
 GM, 4801 posts
Mon 12 Jul 2021
at 15:26
Re: OOC 3
That recent rework, especially the redefinition of Defence points, helped me think about the mass combat rules -  something I haven't really been happy with for a while.  So I have rewritten  them a simplified them a bit.

The changes make enhanced troops a bit more palatable.  Basically, you can now get a better Army (and therefore better defence) without adding defence points -  and without increasing the size of your city.

In  the process, I added  specific military duties to the membership classes of the Southern Chapter.  NPC Knights go to war.  NPC Officers defend the home nation.  NPC members defend the home city.


http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ms2:masscombat:start

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ms2:masscombat:start
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1062 posts
 AC 22 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Mon 12 Jul 2021
at 21:21
Re: OOC 3
As for the multi-holdings that Kunlun is a part of, where can I invest in Stability and Economy to help bring those values to a par with the Loyalty of +10? What properties/villages contribute to this 'blanket property'?
DM
 GM, 4802 posts
Mon 12 Jul 2021
at 21:42
Re: OOC 3
Kunlun is part of the Midmarch provincial holding, administered by Henry, Borric and Rikka.  The Midmarch details are the first entry in the Places section of this page.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....egion:midmarch:start.

The province is 'in balance' at the moment (Econ+20.5, Loy+22, Stab +22) and Henry still has a few BP left to spend.

Please note that the entries on that page have been partially updated for this Campaign Round.
Kendrick Winters
 player, 614 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Sun 18 Jul 2021
at 03:50
Re: OOC 3
Hey. I'm checking back in.
RL has been hectic. Still trying to buy a home.
But I'm back.

IF, I have missed something important please ping me again.
Thank you.
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 526 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Tue 20 Jul 2021
at 18:34
Re: OOC 3
Hope all goes well with the house, Lord Marshal.  Finally landing the right home can be life changing!

So, in the next turn, will concession stands and sports shops, selling jerseys and mugs and so forth, become viable business opportunities?   ;)     (for the scrymball team)
DM
 GM, 4826 posts
Tue 20 Jul 2021
at 18:43
Re: OOC 3
Dibbler’s pies quite often looked appetising. Therein lay their one and only charm
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 528 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Tue 20 Jul 2021
at 19:23
Re: OOC 3
Blowing out someone else's candle doesn't make yours shine any brighter. 
DM
 GM, 4827 posts
Thu 22 Jul 2021
at 07:15
Re: OOC 3
I think I have finally finished with the Campaign Round.  It has been a pain this year :)  However, I have decided to leave the Downtime thread open for a bit longer.

I have updated the Southern Pages - you can find all the settlement and business finances on the appropriate pages.  I have also updated the description pages for settlements. 

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....southernregion:start

Individuals should find up-to-date financial information in the Player Information Thread.

link to a message in this game

If you think anything is wrong -  PM me.
DM
 GM, 4829 posts
Fri 23 Jul 2021
at 09:35
Re: OOC 3
And I am tidying up the Character Information Threads.

New NPC list (as a notice) - let me know if there is a NPC you would like to see there.

Eventually,  The original PC Characters thread will go.  But not before i have transferred any relevant data out of it.

This message was last edited by the GM at 09:36, Yesterday.