OOC 3.   Posted by DM.Group: 0
DM
 GM, 4581 posts
Mon 15 Mar 2021
at 23:43
Re: OOC 3
I can't remember where I saw it now, but I once read something along the lines of  ...

quote:
Resurrection does not stop a soul coming before Pharasma for judgement -  it just delays it.  And who is to say when it is the right time for a soul to be judged?


...  and I quite liked that.

Pharasmin clerics can take the resurrection sub-domain, so I really don't see that Pharasma objects at all  :)
DM
 GM, 4582 posts
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 00:01
Re: OOC 3
Ans, apparently ...

quote:
Inner sea Gods is good book about Pharasma which says things like:

"Though she allows resurrection, the Lady of Graves opposes undeath as a desecration of the memory of the f lesh and a corruption of a soul’s path on its journey to her judgment. She encourages her followers to hunt undead, as the souls of the destroyed undead will then reach her for judgment."

and

"Though Pharasmin priests worship the death goddess, they have no taboo against preventing death through healing, either mundane or magical. Pharasmin priests who sign on with adventuring parties usually act as healers—if not particularly gentle or sympathetic ones— and most temples raise money by selling healing and other spellcasting services. Even spells like raise dead, reincarnate, and resurrection are not forbidden, though churches usually charge a great deal for these."

Marceline Gray
 player, 281 posts
 Half-Elf Inquisitor
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 00:49
Re: OOC 3
I think between the several characters (players and npc alike) we could probably get a consensus on resurrection over raise dead and all similar spells/actions.
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 594 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 01:05
Re: OOC 3
Marceline Gray:
I think between the several characters (players and npc alike) we could probably get a consensus on resurrection over raise dead and all similar spells/actions.


There is a potential Fuzzy thread
DM
 GM, 4583 posts
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 07:33
Re: OOC 3
And from Faiths of Balance , whichgives an overview of all the Neutral Deities ...

quote:
Taboos
The taboos of the faith are largely local
in nature, but there are a few that
remain constant across the faith. As
her follower, you are forbidden to kill
her psychopomps, such as whippoorwills
and scarabs, for they are the goddess’s
eyes and ears. While the goddess has
no opinions regarding contraception,
you may not partake in the abortion of
unborn babies, for to do so is to cut short
the destiny of a child before it has had a
chance to make its own. While necromancy
has many beneficial spells that allow you to
care for both the dead and the living, you may
not create undead, nor control them unless
you do so specifically for the purpose of
destroying them.


No mention of Raising the Dead as  something that is Taboo to priests of Pharasma.  However, there is nothing to stop individual priests or orders from having a personal / local ban or dislike.

For Example, Ethankos has already stated, publicly, that he does not want to be Raised or Resurrrected if he should die.
Domitius Aldori-Solanus
 player, 595 posts
 Half Elf Swordlord
 AC:21 HP:46
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 07:38
Re: OOC 3
I think in the instance of the other game it is that it was arcane magic used that is causing the issue.  That and otjer souls have been used to repair the resurrected soul.
DM
 GM, 4584 posts
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 09:49
Re: OOC 3
Domitius Aldori-Solanus:
I think in the instance of the other game it is that it was arcane magic used that is causing the issue.  That and otjer souls have been used to repair the resurrected soul.


I don't think Arcane should be a problem.  The use of other souls, thereby disrupting their afterlife, would be a big problem for a lot of Pharasmin  :)
Ethankos
 player, 223 posts
 Cleric of Pharasma
 All stories end in death
Tue 16 Mar 2021
at 11:23
Re: OOC 3
As a priest of Pharasma dedicated to returning undead to their rest, Ethankos sees the transition of the soul to the afterlife as a final journey.  But while he chooses never to raise the dead himself, that is his own affair, and to do so or not is in no way in conflict with the teachings of his church ... so if others choose to do so, that is a matter for themselves alone, though he would council against such if consulted.

:>
DM
 GM, 4592 posts
Sun 21 Mar 2021
at 10:44
Re: OOC 3
I reworked the Who's Who page slightly, and brought it (a bit more) up to date.  It doesn't look as neat, but it is a bit easier to navigate.


http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....ionpeople#other_npcs
DM
 GM, 4594 posts
Sun 21 Mar 2021
at 13:49
Re: OOC 3
If you look at the Southern Chapter -  you will see some names  (in Green) have links to their family details.  If you would like a page for your Family/business/holding -  then  I will create it for you, although I will expect you to provide a large chunk of the raw text.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....gion:southernchapter

Different people have created their pages in different ways, there is no set format   :)
DM
 GM, 4598 posts
Mon 22 Mar 2021
at 13:22
Re: OOC 3
I am working on ways of handling cross border developments again!  The system I came up with last time was getting very complicated, and I work the merchants hard enough already.  Not to mention making my life difficult, as well :P

The system need to reflect the difficulty of breaking into a new market, the 'protectiveness' of the people already running business in new markets, and what the benefits are for the new community.  So it will mean that development on 'foreign' places is slower than on Home Soil.

But then the kudos and security and extra income that comes from Cross Border trade is worth it ....

At the same time, I am using the opportunity to restrict the ways that income from religious buildings can be used to finance general business and settlement development.  I'm not banning it, I just want to see a link between Church Income and the goals of the deity - oh, and a commitment from the PC :)  Note:  I am not going to take anything away from any existing holdings or businesses.
DM
 GM, 4599 posts
Mon 22 Mar 2021
at 20:08
Re: OOC 3
And I have just reworked the Jovvox page.  Little has changed, but now you know a lot more about it.

http://rp.baileymail.net/doku....en_land:jovvox:start
DM
 GM, 4600 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 12:54
Re: OOC 3
Phew:  That took a long time, but I think I have a better solution for trading and developing across borders.

http://galinia.org.uk/cross-bo...e-and-development-ii

It isn't set in stone -  let me know what you think and (if I think you have a good case) I'll change it.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 998 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 15:04
Re: OOC 3
Two questions.

1) If Jovvox's hamlet is getting rich from my developments there, why can't we use that money to expand its limit on expansion?

2) Even though I am no cleric, can I still build a Holy House to Shelyn within the confines of the Bardic College I was planning? It fits Shelyn's interest.
DM
 GM, 4601 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 15:36
Re: OOC 3
Adoven Lodovka-Sud:
Two questions.


1) If Jovvox's hamlet is getting rich from my developments there, why can't we use that money to expand its limit on expansion?

Jovvox would apply that restriction to any outsider.  V&A are the first 'outsiders' to be given permission to build there - ever.  They saw an advantage to them in allowing you to set up there, mainly because they thought there was going to be a war between Surtova and the Aldori, and they wanted to sell loads of weapons.  Other than that, they are happy to stay as a small town.

This doesn't change your agreement with Jovvox -  but it makes it easier to funnel income from Jovvox into developments in Mivon, Restov or other 'foreign' setlements.


2) Even though I am no cleric, can I still build a Holy House to Shelyn within the confines of the Bardic College I was planning? It fits Shelyn's interest.

No.  Not unless you take an Entourage Ally/Cousin who is a priest of Shelyn.  You can, however, set up a Shrine or Great Shrine dedicated to Shelyn within the confines of the Bardic College.
Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 999 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 15:41
Re: OOC 3
So the 0.45 bp I was generating in Mivon is now reduced to 0.3? And the same for any Shallops or fishing boats I sail down there?
DM
 GM, 4602 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 15:51
Re: OOC 3
Yes.  But you don't have the problem of converting to cash and back again, and you don't have all the extra costs for bringing in vessels from Tusk.

Henry makes 0.25 bp from his serai in New Stetven.

This message was last edited by the GM at 16:36, Tue 23 Mar.

Adoven Lodovka-Sud
 Player, 1000 posts
 AC 21 F+3 R+10 W+3
 Rogue / Bard, HP 45/45
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 16:28
Re: OOC 3
Damn. 2.5 bp on each point of Economy? Sign me up for THAT!!!!
DM
 GM, 4603 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 16:35
Re: OOC 3
In reply to Adoven Lodovka-Sud (msg # 789):

Whoops.  0.25bp.    I'll edit it in the last post, so I don't have a queue outside New Stetven's city gates :) :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 794 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 18:42
Re: OOC 3
I am just going to build hotels in the Stolen Land until every one lives in one. Come on. They can afford it.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:43, Tue 23 Mar.

DM
 GM, 4604 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 19:10
Re: OOC 3
What happened to Coffee Houses and Wine Bars -  not to mention your Perlot vineyards?
Marik Aeris
 Player, 406 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 19:20
Re: OOC 3
He's a bard, he's fickle. His interests flit about like a butterfly :)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 795 posts
 Opportunist
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 19:29
Re: OOC 3

^^^^THIS!^^^^^

But there must be coffee houses, and tea houses, and fine drinks of all kinds available for ones who wants to leave their confines and socialize with their neighbors. All for a modest price, of course.
DM
 GM, 4605 posts
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 19:47
Re: OOC 3
Cass Mordane:
.....  ones who wants to leave their confines and socialize with their neighbors ....


Dah, Dah, Dah, Dah .... LOCKDOWN!
Alisa Medvyed-Solanus
 player, 492 posts
 Like the moon, the truth
 does not stay long hidden
Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 21:04
Re: OOC 3
I think I'd like to be one of those people who pockets various items from hotels, every time I stay.   Do I need a level of rogue, to be able to do that?