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DM
 GM, 3835 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 11:34
OOC 3
I think we need a new thread ....
DM
 GM, 3836 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 12:38
OOC 3
So how does this read  ...  it sets out the terms of the 'peace' ...



The Regent’s Charter.

Duke Noleski Surtova of Port Ice will act as the Regent of Brevoy.  The Brevoy Council of Peers will consist of the Dukes of Greyhaven, Silverhall, Winterbreak, Eagle’s Roost and Stoneclimb.
  • The Regent will not collect taxes from the other noble houses or independent cities, he will derive his income from the lands surrounding New Stetven.
  • No Noble, Viscount, Governor or Lord Mayor shall be removed from their holdings, without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • No Noble, Viscount, Governor or Lord Mayor shall be punished for their part in the ‘so called’ civil war.  Those disagreements have been resolved by this charter.
  • The follow have been confirmed.
  •   - - Lady Jamandi Aldori is awarded the dormant title of Count of Rostland, and the commensurate lands.  These will be held in perpetuity.
  •   - - Lord Henry leMaistre becomes Baron Gates, based on his holdings at Newgate, Eastgate and Westgate, in the province of Midmarch.  These lands and titles to be held in perpetuity.
  •   - - Baroness Rogarvia-Green becomes Viscount Skywatch.
  •   - - Baron Gates becomes Viscount Midmarch.
  •   - - Restov is confirmed as an Independent City
  •   - - Tusk is awarded the status of Independent City.
  • A new noble condition, Marcher Lord, is created. As with other nobles, Marcher Lords may not be taxed by the Regent, nor can their holdings be taken from them, without express permission from the Council of Peers.
  • All Viscounts, Governors and Lord Mayors will be required to encourage and support the establishment of Marcher Lordships around the borders of Brevoy.





Unless you can see any flaws, that will be the document that underpins all the other grants ....

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Cass Mordane
 Player, 596 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 13:20
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I think that covers the original mandates.
DM
 GM, 3837 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 18:37
OOC 3
And the Tusk Charter



The Tusk Charter
From this day forth Tusk is declared to be an Independent City, within the borders of Midmarch.  It will be responsible for managing its internal affairs, electing its own officers and defending itself and its lands.  It will have no master except for the Regent of Brevoy.
  • The Regent may not tax the independent city of Tusk.
  • The Regent may not remove the Lord Mayor of Tusk from office, without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The City of Tusk will be granted ownership of The Tusk Keep.
  • The City of Tusk will be granted ownership of the land that surrounds it, even if that land was developed under the rule of the Governor of Midmarch.  (Silverton)
  • The City of Tusk must develop defences for both itself and the  new land that it owns.
  • The City of Tusk required to encourage and support the establishment of Marcher Lordships around the borders of Brevoy.




And thoughts on this one?
Adoven
 Player, 724 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 20:03
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As long as economic sources are not Nationalized. Yitis and Jovvox still own properties and Economy sources within Tusk.
DM
 GM, 3838 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 20:09
Re: OOC 3
Adoven:
As long as economic sources are not Nationalized. Yitis and Jovvox still own properties and Economy sources within Tusk.


I would hope that Tusk council don't consider anything like that :)
Kendrick Winters
 player, 480 posts
 Marshal-Dominus
 Knight Paladin of Iomedae
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:09
Re: OOC 3
Oh... now Tusk needs a standing army :)
Sorry all of these independent groups doesn't make an army... it makes a logistical mess ;)
Cass Mordane
 Player, 597 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:14
Re: OOC 3
What if vested interests started donating BP to a centralized military college? Perhaps the one in which Kendrick sets up his Marchdom. That along with any fortifications that he builds on his own could provide for a strong defense reserve.

This message was last edited by the player at 22:21, Thu 16 July.

DM
 GM, 3839 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:19
Re: OOC 3
With Henry handing over the Keep -  Tusk will have 16 military units

Which compares quite well with Viscount Henry's 8 units.

Henry has a few more, personal troops.  Well, quite a few more actually - but even his personal House Guard of  13 units is smaller than Tusk's army  :)

Mind you, Tusk doesn't have any Marine forces ....
Cass Mordane
 Player, 598 posts
 Opportunist
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:28
Re: OOC 3
And should  Silverton develop a sister city mainly for halflings called Halfton?
Get it?
Half Ton!
Oh I am so brilliant.

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Kiera
 player, 223 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 22:37
Re: OOC 3
It might be wise to invest at least a little in some naval forces for the lake, just in case.  I mean, better safe than sorry.
Adoven
 Player, 725 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 23:41
Re: OOC 3
I've got the large boatyard to build them with. And I'm building a Military College in Tusk this Campaign Round.
Kiera
 player, 224 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 23:49
Re: OOC 3
Well, I'll keep throwing my points to economy and stuff to help keep it balanced out, then.  Guess you guys keep the population safe, some of us keep the population happy and the coin rolling in. :P
DM
 GM, 3840 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 08:45
Re: OOC 3
OK.  A Viscount's Patent.  I have  ordered this one in two blocks -  the first is generic and applies to all Viscounts - the second block contains specific directions for that particular Viscount.

I will probably reorganise the Tusk Charter in the same way.



Viscount Patent (Midmarch)

Henry leMaistre is, henceforth, granted the title of Viscount Midmarch, and the right to administer the Province of Midmarch under the laws of Brevoy.
  • The Regent may not tax the province.
  • The Regent may not remove the Viscount from office, without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The terms of this patent may not be changed without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The Viscount is required to encourage and support the development of Marcher Lordships in the undeveloped and unclaimed areas close to the province

  • The Viscount is required to build a line of fortifications on Brevoy’s Southern Border.
  • The Province may expand to the west, as far as the East Sellen River.
  • The Province may not expand to the south, except to consolidate its current borders.
  • The City of Tusk is removed from provincial administration and declared an Independent City.
  • The Viscount is required to relinquish control of provincial resources that fall outside his boundaries.  Specifically the Keep at Tusk and roads that now fall in Tusk’s jurisdiction.



    Thoughts on this one ?

Cass Mordane
 Player, 599 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 09:51
Re: OOC 3
Looks pretty solid.
DM
 GM, 3841 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 10:10
Re: OOC 3
Which all leads to something like this as a March-0Lord Patent.




March-Lord Patent (Generic)

Xxxxx  Xxxxxx is, henceforth, granted the title of March-Lord, and the right to administer the holdings of Xxxxx under the laws of Brevoy.
  • The Regent may not tax the holding.
  • The Regent may not remove the March-Lord from office, without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The terms of this patent may not be changed without the express consent of the Council of Peers.
  • The March-Lord is required to keep their holdings clear of  bandits, brigands, pirates, hostile tribes or any other serious risk to life and property.
  • The March-Lord is required to report illegal activity or military incursion to the nearest senior holding – be it that of a Duke, Count, Viscount, Governor or Independent City.

Cass Mordane
 Player, 600 posts
 Opportunist
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 10:32
Re: OOC 3
I was wondering what the title might entail. What about responsibility to field troops when called upon?
Adoven
 Player, 726 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 10:50
Re: OOC 3
Since the March Lords are protecting land OUTSIDE the boundaries of Midmarch, in what way does the Council of Peers have any say in whether a March Lord can hold office, UNLESS the March Lords are REPRESENTED with a seat at the Council of Peers?
Kiera
 player, 225 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:04
Re: OOC 3
Because it's a way for them to go grab anything they might want to get their grubby little hands on to support their Houses over any one else, I imagine.  We find something valuable and news makes it back, I imagine we'll be out on our ears.

It's also a way for the Council to stick it to Henry, much like they're sticking it to the Aldori- they could snap up every single March Lord office and there wouldn't be anything we could do to stop them- and he wouldn't have any standing to fight for us.
Adoven
 Player, 727 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:12
Re: OOC 3
Perhaps if we demanded a seat at the Council. Give it to my soon-to-be wife, the Lady Viktoria d'Lodkova? Her family connections would give us a stronger voice on the Council.
DM
 GM, 3842 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:20
Re: OOC 3
Adoven:
Since the March Lords are protecting land OUTSIDE the boundaries of Midmarch, in what way does the Council of Peers have any say in whether a March Lord can hold office, UNLESS the March Lords are REPRESENTED with a seat at the Council of Peers?



*grin*  You say it is outside their boundaries.  They say it is inside.

They have a bigger stick than you do.  And you expect to take resources from inside Brevoy to build your Lordship  :)

I suspect that DEMANDING anything would be a very quick way to piss off ALL the noble houses very quickly.  It would be interesting to see Surtova, Lebeda, Garess, Orlovsky, Lodkova, and Medveyed massing on Midmarches Northern Borders.

The Aldori may not join them and choose to  stay at home.  In the same way as Midmarch did when the Aldori asked for help.  :)

Welcome to Politics  :)

If you don't like the terms, you don't have to start a Marcher holding :)
Adoven
 Player, 728 posts
 HP 40 AC 20 F+2 R+9 W+2
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 11:30
Re: OOC 3
Then I shall EARN us a spot on the Council by becoming a Merchant Prince.