OOC - Kingdom Building Thread.   Posted by DM.Group: 0
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 897 posts
 Human Fighter
 Sword and Shield
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 03:03
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
I really love the way that you've explained BP here. It makes a lot more sense as opposed to the conversion of gold to BP.

Cyrus and Valoria will endeavor to aid others in future developments in and around Ringbridge with any leftover "value" we have from our own BP as we invest in Ringbridge ourselves. So if someone wants to build a Jetty now, I can promise that I will aid in whatever way I can in the addition of a ship or other upgrade later :).
Ron Swansov
 NPC e, 15 posts
 I like pretty women
 and breakfast foods
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 03:06
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
Well now, Ron here is a licensed carpenter and is hanging around Oleg's. I am pretty sure he can be talked into helping.
Mariam doZima Wolfeater
 Player, 119 posts
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 03:46
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
I'm definitely planning for a library in town. Mariam needs her romance novels.
DM
 GM, 1827 posts
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 06:42
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
Ron -  please feel free to move yourself to any of the location threads, if you want to pick up some RP.  There willbe another Location thread opening up later for the Fort Stag area -  or what ever we call it.

Mariam - Cool.  You need to pop into the the Fort Stag development thread (that is where I anticipate the largest  settlement to be)  and take part in that debate.  Currently there is a discussion about Naming the area am and electing a Mayor to run it for you.
Adoven
 Player, 121 posts
 Rogue / Bard
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 07:07
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari (msg # 15):

Adoven and Vik had planned to start a merchant venture with a Jetty and 2 fishing boats. Problem is, that costs 3.7 BP, and we only have 2 BP between us.
DM
 GM, 1829 posts
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 07:19
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
*grin* I know.  I read your PMs.

A jetty costs  700
a pair of fishing boats cost 1500

Total 2200 - leaves you 200 short.

Now, if you were to Borrow another BP from one of the  other PCs  you would have 3bp  - That would allow you to buy a second Jetty (in a different settlement)

2x Jetty - 1400
fishing boats - 1500

Total 2900 - with 100 left over (for the two settlements to fight over)

You might have to pay them interest of course ...


Like everyone else, you have to start slowly  :)
Valoria Lebeda-Ondari
 Secondary, 272 posts
 Wizard
 Lady
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 07:26
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to DM (msg # 20):

Valoria will loan Adoven and Vik 1 BP so they can get started. No interest, just build one of those Jetty in Ringbridge. Pay her back next turn(or soonish). :)

"Wilbur will draw papers, just sign on the line."
Adoven
 Player, 122 posts
 Rogue / Bard
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 09:28
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to DM (msg # 20):

Could have sworn that it was a single fishing boat for 1500, but if you're offering a BOGO deal, we'll take it....

Valoria, I'll have to consult with my partner, but that sounds like a great deal.
DM
 GM, 1830 posts
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 09:42
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to Adoven (msg # 22):

from the descriptions section at the bottom of the page :)

quote:
A pair of small fishing vessels that can also carry small amounts of cargo.


Your 1500 gets you two fishing boats and makes work for fishermen/Sailors to run them - as well as homes for them, their wives and families.

Boats (ships, caravans and Mule trains) are more expensive than many other developments because they have a much higher rate of return.  However, you need to have the basic set up - ie Jetties, Docks of Serai  before you can use them.

As there are restrictions on the numbers of each development that can be built in a settlement -  Adoven and Vik could have river-borne trade between Ringbridge and Tusk Town sewn up for a while  :)
Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 899 posts
 Human Fighter
 Sword and Shield
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 14:34
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to Valoria Lebeda-Ondari (msg # 21):

@Adoven, Vik - when you get around to it, if you wouldn't mind declaring your interest in building the Jetty in the Fuzzy: Ringbridge thread: link to a message in this game  it would be greatly appreciated.

@Cass - if you decide to build a Tavern in Ringbridge as well, please post it there as well. That way we know what we have to work with!
Adoven
 Player, 126 posts
 Rogue / Bard
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 22:56
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to DM (msg # 23):

So, the two jetties in Tusk Town and Ringbridge either do not add BPs to each city or add +0.50 BP per turn, and the fishing boats add +1 BP to Viktorian Enterprises?
Valoria Lebeda-Ondari
 Secondary, 277 posts
 Wizard
 Lady
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 23:10
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
From what I understood(which may be wrong)  boats, ships, mule trains and caravans  don't add their economic point to the stronghold economic value. You(and your partner) profit from these things only.

However, jetties(docks, or any building, etc) do add to a stronghold's economic value. You profit more by owning it, but the stronghold also gets to tax it. Jetties and the like are kind of a win/win for both you and the stranghold. :)

This message was last edited by the player at 23:14, Wed 08 Nov 2017.

Adoven
 Player, 127 posts
 Rogue / Bard
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 23:22
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
Speaking of which, Lady Valoria... do you wish repayment of your BP, or are you investing? Whereby you are involved in develop,ment?
Valoria Lebeda-Ondari
 Secondary, 279 posts
 Wizard
 Lady
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 23:25
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
I would like to RP that in the "Location: Ringbridge" thread. Leaning towards investment. :)
Valoria Lebeda-Ondari
 Secondary, 280 posts
 Wizard
 Lady
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 23:55
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to Adoven (msg # 27):

Actually, after looking over the numbers, I am going to need repayment of the BP.  Going to build the first district to upgrade the village to a city next turn.

Would you still be open to investment after a few turns down the road? We(Val and Cyrus) just need to get our ball rolling is all. :)
Adoven
 Player, 128 posts
 Rogue / Bard
Thu 9 Nov 2017
at 04:56
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to Valoria Lebeda-Ondari (msg # 29):

I'll speak to my partner about offering investment opportunities to select clientele.
DM
 GM, 1839 posts
Thu 9 Nov 2017
at 09:17
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
*grins* I would remember that Valoria hasn't helped you build the jetty in Ringbridge yet,  while Val and Cyrus have the right to refuse you permission to build anything in Ringbridge. :)

That Extra BP (at this point) makes it possible for your shipping company to get established , and start making a profit, very quickly.  A 2bp company is a lot less profitable that a 3bp company :)


Valoria Lebeda-Ondari:
In reply to DM (msg # 20):

Valoria will loan Adoven and Vik 1 BP so they can get started. No interest, just build one of those Jetty in Ringbridge. Pay her back next turn(or soonish). :)

"Wilbur will draw papers, just sign on the line."

Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 904 posts
 Human Fighter
 Sword and Shield
Fri 10 Nov 2017
at 04:32
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
Marik, nice grab on the mine! I don't think I realized that there was such a great resource so close!
Marik
 Player, 134 posts
Fri 10 Nov 2017
at 04:49
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
Yeah, I actually started talking to the DM about it before I knew anyone was taking the Orcy Ring/Ringbridge. I'm not sure how successful it'll be, but I thought it would be fun to work with the kobolds.
Valoria Lebeda-Ondari
 Secondary, 282 posts
 Wizard
 Lady
Fri 10 Nov 2017
at 05:12
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to Marik (msg # 33):

A very nice grab. I thought working with the kobolds would be very cool, every since Valoria had her first conversation with them. I envy you Marik. Very cool. :)

This message was last edited by the player at 05:13, Fri 10 Nov 2017.

Cyrus Lebeda-Ondari
 Player, 905 posts
 Human Fighter
 Sword and Shield
Fri 10 Nov 2017
at 05:53
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
For what it’s worth, it makes sense to me to have a number of small settlements that are close to each other and connected. That’s how it works best historically :). Eventually we’ll all turn into one big city, but that will be generations from now!

As long as everyone is playing this to benefit the common good of MidMarch we’ll all do great!
DM
 GM, 1843 posts
Fri 10 Nov 2017
at 06:57
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
As in RL -   Marik was actually in the Kobold den and saw the opportunities. :)
Adoven
 Player, 130 posts
 Rogue / Bard
Fri 10 Nov 2017
at 07:17
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
As Valoria asked us to build a Jetty in Ringbridge I presume we have the land owner's permission?
Valoria Lebeda-Ondari
 Secondary, 285 posts
 Wizard
 Lady
Fri 10 Nov 2017
at 07:21
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to Adoven (msg # 37):

Indeed you do. :)
DM
 GM, 1844 posts
Fri 10 Nov 2017
at 09:07
Re: OOC -  Kingdom Building Thread
In reply to Adoven (msg # 37):

Ah, my point was that Val could withdraw permission if you started messing about with loan repayment deals   :)