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OOC.

Posted by KittenFor group 0
Gunnar
player, 5 posts
Ghost Bear Freeborn
Honor (64)
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 00:09
  • msg #660

Re: OOC

Where do you want bid and equipment finalization posted?
Mariana
Player, 5 posts
Ghost Bear Trueborn
Tseng (Bloodname 80)
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 00:56
  • msg #661

Re: OOC

As it may influence several people's bids where do we find the house rules like targeting computers being incompatible with some direct fire weapons but working with some?
Kitten
GM, 755 posts
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 02:18
  • msg #662

Re: OOC

Mariana:
As it may influence several people's bids where do we find the house rules like targeting computers being incompatible with some direct fire weapons but working with some?



o.O

I believe it's always been so, that they dont work with missile weapons and pulse lasers?

was that changed?

(looks it up)

I'm presuming it cant be used only with Direct fire weapons which also excludes LRMs and SRMs, though.. it doesnt seem to say so explicitly in Total Warfare, but it does mention it in earlier editions like in the Compendium, that it was to enhance direct fire weapons, opposed to Missiles.  So i dont consider it really a house rule?

Total Warfare, Page 143

Target Computers do not work with LBX auto canons, when using LBX ammo.  Target Computers do not work with Pulse or Rapid fire weapons.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:19, Fri 08 July 2016.
Kitten
GM, 757 posts
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 02:25
  • msg #663

Re: OOC

Gunnar:
Where do you want bid and equipment finalization posted?


Presuming you're not giving up low bid (really why would you?)  You can post your final equipment call here.

It gets added to the bidding thread and the equipment is noted as 'checked out' on the unit thread.

People that follow after you, wont be able to use the equipment you're using on the mission.

It's the advantage of having low bid.




Tie between Mariana and Anton resolved.

Mariana is Trueborn, and Anton if Free, so she gets to pick equipment before him.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:26, Fri 08 July 2016.
Kitten
GM, 758 posts
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 03:56
  • msg #664

Re: OOC

Gunnar:
Where do you want bid and equipment finalization posted?



First time were doing this, but bids are over, and peeps need to know what's available, so when it's your turn, please post what you use.

Gunnar has altered his bid and is currently looking like...

33 DragonFly (light)
8 (4) SPL (4 ton)
2 (2) ERSL (1 ton)
1 Floating


There really is no point to having an extra point of honor left over, might as well spend it on something?

You still have .75 tons and (4) crits left to you, even if it's only for another ERSL.  Will presume you do this, unless you tell me otherwise.  Presuming (2) SPL and (1) ERSL in each torso, and the last ERSL in the RA.  With that, you are finalized, bargined well and done.

We move on to Mikael next, with a bid of 45 honor.

Will add some inner sphere energy weapons for next mission.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:06, Fri 08 July 2016.
Kitten
GM, 759 posts
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 09:16
  • msg #665

Re: OOC

Mikael is taking the Valkyrie to use on the next mission.

Next person to select equipment is Mariana.

Gunnar already took the Dragon Fly out, so you need to rework your bid.
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:21, Fri 08 July 2016.
Mariana
Player, 6 posts
Ghost Bear Trueborn
Tseng (Bloodname 80)
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 09:35
  • msg #666

Re: OOC

Put me in the Kit Fox (S) with a single Large Pulse laser, and hopefully the jump jets too.
Kitten
GM, 760 posts
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 12:50
  • msg #667

Re: OOC

Mariana:
Put me in the Kit Fox (S) with a single Large Pulse laser, and hopefully the jump jets too.



33 honor for Uller
15 honor for Pulse

48 honor base x 1.15 = 55.2 ~> 56 Honor

Over your bid of 52.

If you want to try for this you can pay 2 honor to up your bid to 58, but you concede the choice of equipment to Anton and Xue to pick equipment out first.

Not a big deal with Anton who is a freeborn without noble, and not likely to take your stuff, but Xue is a Trueborn and might.

Please submit a load for 52 honor, or submit the new bid you would like to consider.

(Regardless, no jump jets on omni mechs at this time.)




If you take the Uller you have about 12 honor to spend for weapons.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:38, Fri 08 July 2016.
Mariana
Player, 7 posts
Ghost Bear Trueborn
Tseng (Bloodname 80)
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 16:58
  • msg #668

Re: OOC

The Kit Fox (S) comes with jump jets by default so I figured I would ask if that translated into your house rules.

As for bids there aren't any other combinations remaining that work, if someone wants to take my stuff they are welcome to it and that will result in my bid becoming a pass, which will put me on their opposition team.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:59, Fri 08 July 2016.
Kitten
GM, 762 posts
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 17:40
  • msg #669

Re: OOC

Most Uller versions do not have Jump Jets.  One version having them does not require adding them on the base model which would invalidate the rest of the variants.

Jump Jets will be made available after this mission.

You have 48 honor, after pilot adjustment to pick out equipment.

There are any number of options.

If you take a second line mech, you could use the Locust IIC, which is 46 Honor.

If you want to really use an omni, you can look at the Storm Crow or Uller, but your weapon mix should come out to around 12 honor.  You are not required to use all the pod space.

If not using all the pod space bothers you, you can look at the Mist Lynx, which is only 15 tons, and mount weapons and take elementals.

If none of these sit right with you, you've bid badly.  You can spend honor to move up to someone elses bid, to get a few more points of equipment.

2 points of honor would increase your bid from 52 to 58 (Xue's Bid) but you would be moved down in the bid, and Anton and Xue would take equipment first.

If none of this sits right with you at all, you may sit out the mission or help with the Op Force, and i will adjust the mission for four players instead of five.
Mariana
Player, 8 posts
Ghost Bear Trueborn
Tseng (Bloodname 80)
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 17:47
  • msg #670

Re: OOC

Go ahead and bump me up to 58 then, I will use the Stormcrow or Kit Fox if nobody else does.
Anton
player, 100 posts
Ghost Bear Freeborn
Honor (64)
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 17:57
  • msg #671

Re: OOC

Is it to me then?
Kitten
GM, 763 posts
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 17:59
  • msg #672

Re: OOC

yes, Mariana is exercising her option to use a higher bid, will cost her honor for it, but she'll have more equipment for the mission, though it means other players will go before her.

First auction of this sort, so everyone is on the learning curve, your turn to pick out your equipment Anton.
Anton
player, 101 posts
Ghost Bear Freeborn
Honor (64)
Fri 8 Jul 2016
at 18:41
  • msg #673

Re: OOC

I'm looking at the Commando and equipping Incendiary or Inferno Ammo. Not sure what your honor cost for the specialty ammo is yet.
Kitten
GM, 764 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 00:49
  • msg #674

Re: OOC

Anton:
I'm looking at the Commando and equipping Incendiary or Inferno Ammo. Not sure what your honor cost for the specialty ammo is yet.



Commmando is using Streaks, no specialty ammo for SRMs at this time.

you can have thunder or swarms if you want LRM specialty ammo.  1 honor = 1 ton.

Can also add Elementals.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:50, Sat 09 July 2016.
Anton
player, 102 posts
Ghost Bear Freeborn
Honor (64)
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 02:45
  • msg #675

Re: OOC

Final bid 52
40 Commando
12 3x Regular Elementals
This message was last edited by the player at 03:38, Sat 09 July 2016.
Kitten
GM, 766 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 12:50
  • msg #676

Re: OOC

Anton:
Final bid 52
40 Commando
12 3x Regular Elementals



All fractions round up.  (You have to be on or under your bid, fractions no matter how small put you over.)

So I'm going to substitute one Green Elemental to have you stay on budget.
Kitten
GM, 767 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 12:52
  • msg #677

Re: OOC

Xue, waiting for your bid of 58 Honor.

After skill adjustment that leaves you around 60.9 Honor for equipment.
Mariana
Player, 9 posts
Ghost Bear Trueborn
Tseng (Bloodname 80)
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 12:55
  • msg #678

Re: OOC

While we are talking about bidding can I bid away the use of a double heat sink?  I don't need to replace it just switch the thing off for a while.
Kitten
GM, 769 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 12:58
  • msg #679

Re: OOC

No, what's on the mech, is on the mech as 'basic' equipment and is considered integral part of the mech.  The only exception is the Mist Lynx Beagle Probe, which I'll Guardian to swap out with.  Otherwise the mechs are what they are when you get them and not subject to modification, unless your mechwarrior has  Tinker, then I would let you 'Tinker' it down to reduce the honor cost of the mech.  (old options do have a use it seems)
Kitten
GM, 771 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 13:16
  • msg #680

Re: OOC

Must have been tired when i made honor calcuations, going over math again to make certain it's right.

Timberwolf should be 43 honor.

Storm crow rounding error corrected to 35 honor.




Adding stuff to be made available next mission.  They are NOT available this mission.

Last call for request to change mechs out for ones more to your liking.  I will remove mechs that dont seem to hold interest for you (ie, not looked with favor from the past auction).  You may request a mech that is not in the TRO, and i will give you a quick estimate of the final look, but that's no guarantee that it'll be perfect and to your liking.  Please limit request to the 3050 TRO or classic Inner sphere book, or be prepared to give me a link with the official stats of the mech in question.

This offer is good now, for start up.  After the first mission, you're stuck with what you got, and it will be a lot slower and hap hazard about the mechs you end up with, often left to characters with Noble of some sort to have any say in what comes into the unit.


So far ...

Eileen is requesting an Adder (light), which i will remove the Wasp for.


Cost at the moment is...

For Omni Mechs.
2 honor for 10~20 tons
4 honor for 25~30 tons
6 honor for 35~40 tons
8 honor for 45~50 tons


For Second Line Mechs
1 honor for 10~20 tons
2 honor for 25~30 tons
3 honor for 35~40 tons
4 honor for 45~50 tons
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:43, Sat 09 July 2016.
Mariana
Player, 10 posts
Ghost Bear Trueborn
Tseng (Bloodname 80)
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 22:05
  • msg #681

Re: OOC

Assuming the next bid comes in before I get back from work I thought I would include mine now, if I need to change it due to avaliblity we can work on that but hopefully this will speed up the process.
Kitten
GM, 781 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 22:15
  • msg #682

Re: OOC

Mariana:
Assuming the next bid comes in before I get back from work I thought I would include mine now, if I need to change it due to avaliblity we can work on that but hopefully this will speed up the process.



approved for this mission.

i need to finalize how the math works, and for this mission, your math is good.

be aware that if this were the next mission you'd be over just a little.
Kitten
GM, 782 posts
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 22:19
  • msg #683

Re: OOC

Starting Mission TWO  (ie.  not this one)

If the MW has no bid adjustment, they may use 50 honor worth of equipment.

If the MW has a positive adjustment of +10%  (a positive modifier)
50 x 1.1 = 55 honor worth of equipment

If the MW has a negative adjustment of -90%  (a negative modifier)
50 x 0.9 = 45 honor worth of equipment.

Fractions are kept, since they may be useful for things like the cost of Target Computers, Elementals, or Specialty Ammo.

The math calcuations are just easier this way.

Xue
Player, 18 posts
Ghost Bear Trueborn
Tseng (Bloodname 105)
Sat 9 Jul 2016
at 22:21
  • msg #684

Re: OOC

quote:
Mad Dog ~ 39 Honor Base, 15.0t Pod Space
          6/9/0, 10(17) HS

5+5 Torso Pods ~ 21 Honor, 14.5 tons, 4+5
-------------------------------------------
(1) ERPPC 6.0t, 2 crits 15 Honor RT
(1) TC    2.0t, 2 crits          RT
---
(1) LB-6x 3.5t, 2 crits  6 Honor LT
(-) Ammo  3.0t, 3 crits 48 Shots LT
-------------------------------------------

5+5 Arm Pods ~ 0 Honor, 0.5 tons, 0+1
-------------------------------------------
(-) Ammo  0.5t, 1 crits  8 Shots LA
-------------------------------------------
Total Honor Cost  : 39 + 21 = 60

Pilot Bid         : 58
Pilot Modifier    : +5%
Final Honor Avail : 58 * 1.05 = 60.9

This message was last edited by the player at 22:25, Sat 09 July 2016.
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