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The echo of the past
 GM, 26 posts
Thu 8 Sep 2016
at 02:27
OOC
I hope we can get good use on this one.

Ok we have a nice party of four and a half! Let's start talking about your characters and how you might fit with each other. In general all of you will meet IC for the first time, but there could be exceptions.

I'll still accept one or two more people, but we have enough to start.

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:55, Fri 09 Sept 2016.

Grail Damos
 player, 1 post
Fri 9 Sep 2016
at 20:56
OOC
Grail Damos, Tiefling Warlock, of House Damos.  His House banner displays a bowing black crow against a field a red.  A dispossessed Baron, he now adventures in order to discover enough treasure to raise an army and take back his lands.  Unfortunately, he also has a gambling problem.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 1 post
Fri 9 Sep 2016
at 21:11
OOC
Hi everybody!  I'm excited for this game, I really like the setting and the tone of it.

I'll be playing Luther Sorrel, a former soldier who is a good-natured, cheerful and urbane fellow... most of the time.  However, when his blood gets up from battle or stress he flies into a blackout berserker fury and has a complete personality shift into a bloodthirsty engine of heedless destruction.  Witnesses to his past battle rampages dubbed this furious alter ego "the Bloody Cackler."  It's kind of a Jekyll/Hyde, Bruce Banner/Hulk, Logen Ninefingers/the Bloody Nine kind of situation.

So yeah, I'm a Barbarian (maybe a level of Fighter) and am looking to RP the rage all the way.  He's going to be a damage-dealing monster in battle, but is also going to be reckless, insensible and capable of deeds that his sane self would find horrific.  This will probably get the group in trouble at some point, but I'll try to steer his chaos toward fun rather than being disruptive.  Luther would agree to a shock collar or some other means to keep the Cackler in check, if needed :)

I have family visiting from out of town through Monday, so I might not be able to post a huge amount or get a nice character sheet finished until Tuesday.
Karliah Culver
 player, 1 post
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 00:55
Re: OOC
Luther Sorrel:
Luther would agree to a shock collar or some other means to keep the Cackler in check, if needed :)

I think that I could help with that.

Karliah Culver here. I'll not reveal too much but my character will be a driven science-oriented fighter.

And by science-oriented I of course mean fantasy-heavy steampunk style pseudoscience. You know, the best kind.

Not my normal preferred play style, but I've been itching to try it out for fun. I look forward to gaming with you all.
Grail Damos
 player, 2 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 01:26
Re: OOC
When you read my character's posts do so with a bad Russian accent.  That's what I imagine him having.
Tigress
 player, 1 post
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 1
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 01:30
Re: OOC
I apologize in advance for anything my girl does. She's... yeah.

Her player, however, is a lot more pleasant. So excited for this game! ^_^
Grail Damos
 player, 3 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 03:58
Re: OOC
Grail may know of you if you are into games of chance, particularly dice.
Tigress
 player, 2 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 1
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 03:59
Re: OOC
Tigress isn't really a gambler. She's more...

Well, you'll see in-game.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 2 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 04:31
Re: OOC
In reply to Karliah Culver (msg # 4):

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?  Steampunk tesla taser is what I was thinking!  Heck yeah, start inventing one of those :D

Is anyone interested in working out some character connections in advance of the game?  I kind of like having some bonds to encourage group cohesion.  Doesn't have to be anything huge, but at least a little something so everyone's not a total stranger with no reason to talk to each other, you know?  Maybe Luther owes Grail a couple gp from a random poker game or something :)  Luther could be working as someone's footman/bodyguard/hired muscle/workshop assistant or something like that.  If anyone was involved in any recent wars we could have run into each other there.

This portrait is kind of dumb, now that I'm looking at it more.  I'll keep looking for another, hehe.

This message was last edited by the player at 04:34, Sat 10 Sept 2016.

Karliah Culver
 player, 2 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 06:20
Re: OOC
In reply to Luther Sorrel (msg # 9):

That's a fanart of Ander, one of my favorite Dragon Age characters. It is a little odd looking though.

I always enjoy shared backgrounds as well. Perhaps we could work something out? Not sure what exactly though; Karliah is a bit of a rebel and mage-hating freedom fighter. Any religious background?
Mis'sha
 player, 1 post
 The curious snake girl
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 10:13
Re: OOC
Oh dear, another 'let's all post when the european is asleep!' game. :o

And I had to go to the gym this morning. Had to go lift brah. DO U EVEN LIFT BRAH!?

*cough*

I commend you Luther for your excellent reading. I finished the First Law trilogy somewhere earlier this year and thoroughly enjoyed it. Logen Nine-Fingers was an interesting character, although by the end I rather had seen they explored his condition instead of giving him the end he got. Oh well. But my favorite character is Sand dan Glokta by far. His caustic wit burrowed a red hot poker to my heart, ahh yes.

Anyhow, I'll be playing Mis'sha, which is how mammals pronounce my snake girl's name. I couldn't ignore the chance to slither around and sniff around with my forked tongue when I saw the race. Mis'sha is a curious creature. I envision a young, intrepid girl explorer. Armed with map and notebook, she wishes to explore every nook and cranny of the world. She is naturally drawn to the ruins of old civilizations as well as libraries of any kind. She is learned but not bookish, always smiling and joking but not naive, completely absorbed in traveling and seeing new things. She's mostly in it for herself and to sate her endless curiosity. As soon as a place gets boring she is off again. She cares nothing for politics and those in power, as long as she can get around them to the next nugget of exploration.

Furthermore she is addicted to the gathering of knowledge. And I mean really addicted. Not just interested, but she has a psychological urge to learn! True as any addict she will go to great lengths to satisfy her cravings even if she has to do things that are not within the confines of what is deemed acceptable. Also she makes no reservations about the dark and proscribed. Lore is lore, and it is there to be learned. But she is by no means evil. She just wants to learn and explore. That may also be her flaw; she wants the knowledge for itself, but doesn't really do anything with it. She could learn enough to become a wizard lord or a queen or alchemist or mechanist or... anything really, in her own right, but that's not her interest. She'd rather retire to a library one day and one day die writing her lore down in a tome then anything else.

Physically appearance I thought out a little. She has an interesting blend of her savage origins and things picked up from civilization. She wears a studded leather armor of ingenious straps and belts that allows her serpentine form to move freely and she is adorned with feathers and all sorts of trinkets she gathered on her journeys; a string of coins on her wrist, a wooden plaque hanging from her necklace depicting Amshula right alongside a closed bronze locket and a rusting iron key.

The material of her armor seems to be a blend of animal hide and metal straps, but fitted so it does not chafe or touch the areas of her body she normally moves across (or through) the ground with. Another interesting feature is her backpack, which seems to be made of snake leather. Interestingly she had it made from her own molted skin, causing it to have the same coloration and pattern as her own scaly skin.

She would travel in a little wagon of wood with a canvas cover, padded with skins on the inside. In it there are a few waterproofed chests to carry her research in but mostly she can coil up in it and have her *insert beast of burden here* carry her to the next destination. This little wagon is more or less her home. She has everything there from cooking pots to road clearing tools on it. The inside is cozy and has all sorts of artifacts from her origin culture (fetishes, carvings, ritual items, feather totems, etc) as well as a bewildering range of trinkets and doodads she collected on her travels from wildly different origins.

Her wagon (minus mounts).


Her notebook (I imagine she keeps notes on everything, including sketches and detailed drawings of her finds. If I can play the explorer, she'd draw maps too with her cartography proficiency.


I haven't been able to find a good picture for herself sadly.
Ka'resh
 player, 1 post
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 12:15
Re: OOC
Good morning and hello all!
Val'Cryel (Name change impending) here.

As for character connections, I do know a bit about magic, and i am Attuned to electricity if your truly wanting that shock treatment. ;3

With the Noble Grail and his backup Luther, hustling is a good strategy.
And a simple hustle gone wrong ending in a outraged fight would show you that while frail looking, Val is a capable warrior who blends quickness with power and precision.
If you stick to your debts, Val wasn't looking to collect. Then again, he is on the search for powerful allies...

Much like Karliah, he's got a grudge against wizards and witches, a particular one to be honest. Though he isn't an open rebel as that would draw too much attention.

As for a connection to Mis'sha? well... If a creature who is a non-dead, living breathing vampire with what looks to be draconic blood (if the small sheen of what could be scales and the inborn attunement to magic would suggest) doesn't catch the attention of a curiosity hunter, then i'm not sure what will. ^.^
Mis'sha
 player, 2 posts
 The curious snake girl
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 12:26
Re: OOC
So you're a part-vampire part-dragon ichigo-wannabe? Isn't that a bit too much of the odd, or do you have a coherent idea behind this? :)
Ka'resh
 player, 2 posts
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 12:56
Re: OOC
A) Ive only seen like 4 episodes of bleach. All in the beginning. So I didn't know till I saw the link. XD
B) I just typed in black hair, red eyes, martial artist. Lol (vampire Monk wasn't looking good. Hehe)
C) the original character idea was dragonborn. Completly glazed over the arnt allowed races apparently. >.>
So in essence... I'm working on that coherent idea! Lol Give me a break woma... Snaklad... Unmm... Female! XD
But yes, vampire martial artist, who is also a sorcerer. Lol.
Mis'sha
 player, 3 posts
 The curious snake girl
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 13:03
Re: OOC
Give thee a break? Nevah!

So your background was like 'mommy was a vampire, daddy was a dragon. I became a not-undead-but-kinda-undead kung-fu warrior, with the power of dragons, BECAUSE KUNG-FU!'
Ka'resh
 player, 3 posts
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 13:32
Re: OOC
Technically its more Mommy was a.. We arnt Vampires! We're Zwilians (Homebrew race our GM made). lol

And daddy is a powerful Wizard who wants me more like Mr Sinister and his cloned projects. >.>

Oh, did i mention he'll kill anyone in his way? Good thing Val would never tell anyone that. It would reduce his recruits morale! lol

And yes... BECAUSE KUNG-FU is a legitimate reason for many things! xD
Mis'sha
 player, 4 posts
 The curious snake girl
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 13:51
Re: OOC
Ooooh, right, one of those!

Prepare to get documented. Prepare for trouble! Make it Double!
Ka'resh
 player, 4 posts
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 14:13
Re: OOC
Are you protecting knowledge from devastation?
Perhaps you'll explain your own procreation? (i hear its weird. xD)
Sadly you'll be unhappy, even sore,
once you find out, i know little more.
Tigress
 player, 3 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 1
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 14:24
Re: OOC
Mis'sha, if it makes you feel any better, I'm in America and all this shit went down while I was knocked out, too. lolz.

Also, I hate you two so much, now the Team Rocket motto is gonna be stuck in my head all day... (I love Pokemon, so not too bad a thing, but still...)
Karliah Culver
 player, 3 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 14:31
Re: OOC
What the hell did I just read.

Lol
Ka'resh
 player, 5 posts
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 14:34
Re: OOC
You read the makings of a Beautiful Friendship!
Some might even call it a crazy Kinship.

Val'Cryel!
(you may do your own name Mis'sha! xD)

 (and tigress! you can be our angsty pet cat if you want. ^.^)
Tigress
 player, 4 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 1
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 15:07
Re: OOC
I promise to never obey you. lolz.
Ka'resh
 player, 6 posts
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 16:00
Re: OOC
Dangit Victreebelle! Why couldn't you be an eevee! Even if you were a false prophet. >.>
Karliah Culver
 player, 4 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 16:14
Re: OOC
So Mis'sha after reading your intro thing and looking at the Scholar class (I assume that's you) I've decided I need us to be best friends when we meet in game lol. Like Bruce Banner and Tony Stark; one's all technology and weapons, the other is general science, and they're smart bros. We can be smart sisters.
Ka'resh
 player, 7 posts
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 16:17
Re: OOC
Hey, i'm smart! sorta. >.> Whats a scholar class? xD
Tigress
 player, 5 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 1
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 16:30
Re: OOC
I think she meant 'background'.
Ka'resh
 player, 8 posts
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 16:56
Re: OOC
Oh. I was thinking sage myself.
Just sittin here... been playing LoL all day. xD
Karliah Culver
 player, 5 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 16:57
Re: OOC
No, it's a class. Look at the allowed material thread.

Do your research.   =P
Mis'sha
 player, 5 posts
 The curious snake girl
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 17:20
Re: OOC
My secret class has been uncovered!? Drat! :p
Ka'resh
 player, 9 posts
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 17:33
Re: OOC
Ohhhhh buuurn. Good thing i'm not weak to sunlight! ~stays in room~

Back to the Background connections? ^.^ since people are on it would be a good time. lol
Mis'sha
 player, 6 posts
 The curious snake girl
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 17:44
Re: OOC
Hey Karlia, thought of a shared background to link with your idea. We could know one another indeed as the learned people (the rest are plebs, know your place plebs). But I envision Mis'sha totting around a huge, exotic looking heavy crossbow (or maybe a steambow? Woo!). Perhaps our initial meeting is from when Mis'sha procured said hunk of crossbow from you?
Grail Damos
 player, 4 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 18:59
Re: OOC
Grail is either a Noble or a Charlatain pretending to be such.  If the gambling house isn't your style perhaps you could be one of his entourage or retinue?  He's learned a few tricks from a Druid of the Wyld Woods by the name of Orrin Bloodfern.  So if there are any Druids or rangers in the party we could at least be familiar with one another through a shared friend.
The echo of the past
 GM, 29 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 19:59
Re: OOC
Kids. kids calm down. I can't leave you unattended for a few hours... Apologize and say you are sorry. And in the future don't instigate anything. Treat each oher with respect.
Mis'sha
 player, 7 posts
 The curious snake girl
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 20:04
Re: OOC
I'm sorry mom!
Luther Sorrel
 player, 3 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 22:06
Re: OOC
Mis'sha:
I commend you Luther for your excellent reading. I finished the First Law trilogy somewhere earlier this year and thoroughly enjoyed it. Logen Nine-Fingers was an interesting character, although by the end I rather had seen they explored his condition instead of giving him the end he got. Oh well. But my favorite character is Sand dan Glokta by far. His caustic wit burrowed a red hot poker to my heart, ahh yes.

I was wondering if anyone would recognize the reference!  Abercrombie is one of my favorite authors.  You should check out the other standalone novels in the same setting and his recent short story collection.  Not going to spoil anything, but there's some more Ninefingers amongst those if you weren't satisfied with his run in the First Law :)

Since posting last night I'm thinking that Luther will have taken on a peaceful occupation to try to keep himself away from conflict forever so the Cackler doesn't show up again.  He could be a librarian or some sort of menial scribe (he is literate, oddly enough for a barbarian!), which could be a connection for the smartypantses.  His dream of a quiet retirement isn't going to work out though, now that the world is dying.  Now he's going to need to bring his inner demon back just to survive!
The echo of the past
 GM, 30 posts
Sat 10 Sep 2016
at 22:41
Re: OOC
Ok, let me tell you something in general, and I promise this is the last I will say in my angry mom voice. For the love of, stop overinvesting on Constitution, all of you are on steroids as it is with empowered short rests, feats and do anything with your stats. Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should.

Ok, that is it. I have a couple more RTJs, but need to figure out some stuff. I might have to divide you into two parties.

This message was last edited by the GM at 22:42, Sat 10 Sept 2016.

Karliah Culver
 player, 6 posts
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 00:13
Re: OOC
Mis'sha:
Hey Karlia, thought of a shared background to link with your idea. We could know one another indeed as the learned people (the rest are plebs, know your place plebs). But I envision Mis'sha totting around a huge, exotic looking heavy crossbow (or maybe a steambow? Woo!). Perhaps our initial meeting is from when Mis'sha procured said hunk of crossbow from you?

Oooohhh, That would be pretty cool actually; an eccentric or complicated crossbow would be right up Karliah's research alley actually, so something she definitely could have helped with.

That big ol' cart looks a bit lonely. Karliah has likely been travelling between research and trying to usurp the higher powers. *cough* lol
Luther Sorrel
 player, 4 posts
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 02:01
Re: OOC
Errr, I haven't picked my stats yet, but I'll have to apologize in advance because Luther should have a high Con score :|  I think I could maaaaybe get a pass since Con is a big stat for my class, and my character concept is mostly about being an unstoppable killing machine and all that jazz!

[Private to GM: I don't mean to be presumptuous by offering you GMing advice, but if a player of mine gave me a character sheet with a 16-18 Con for their scholarly casters or Dexy ranged type characters I'd veto that real quick :P  You wrote in the character creation thread that we ought to pick scores appropriate to our character concepts, so I think you're justified in reigning that in a bit.  18 Con is for the likes of Hercules or Leo DiCaprio in the Revenant, haha]
Tigress
 player, 7 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 1
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 02:37
Re: OOC
I just picked the Con score I did because the abilities of my class drain my health.
Ka'resh
 player, 10 posts
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 03:20
Re: OOC
Hey, i think i was pretty fair with my scores! lol
Grail Damos
 player, 5 posts
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 03:41
Re: OOC
Not me.  I was just testing to see how much I could get away with.

This message was last edited by the player at 14:44, Sun 11 Sept 2016.

Karliah Culver
 player, 7 posts
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 04:21
Re: OOC
Luther Sorrel:
Errr, I haven't picked my stats yet, but I'll have to apologize in advance because Luther should have a high Con score :|  I think I could maaaaybe get a pass since Con is a big stat for my class, and my character concept is mostly about being an unstoppable killing machine and all that jazz!

Well if you're a barbarian then that certainly is true; CON is one of your top scores.

I dropped my CON score a bit, and I'm thinking about switching it to make my WIS higher.
Mis'sha
 player, 8 posts
 The curious snake girl
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 06:54
Re: OOC
But.... my race gets a bonus to con! 14 isn't high is it?
Grail Damos
 player, 6 posts
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 14:45
Re: OOC
I do believe my character sheet is done.  Ready to roll!
Mis'sha
 player, 9 posts
 The curious snake girl
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 18:14
Re: OOC
Mine is 99% done as well. Just a little clarification on religion, so the stats are done and really for approval.

Don't forget to put up some nice descriptions guys! We all love to know who we're working with! :) Just talk a bit about appearance, apparent mannerism, visible gear, and so on and before you know it you have a neat little write-up.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:17, Sun 11 Sept 2016.

Grail Damos
 player, 7 posts
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 21:31
Re: OOC
Changed a weapon and updated character description.
Mis'sha
 player, 10 posts
 The curious snake girl
Sun 11 Sep 2016
at 21:39
Re: OOC
Nice description Grail, makes me curious about your character. :)
Qisstralya
 player, 1 post
 Slither softly...
 ...strike suddenly
Mon 12 Sep 2016
at 21:55
Re: OOC
Hi all!  I'm still getting all my character stuff entered and set up, but thought I'd drop in to say hey. :-)

Qisstralya is a Yaran Phobia, and scientist at heart ("scientist" here defined as "someone who loves to learn"); she's likely 16 or 17, and quite passionate about going out into the world and figuring out what the source of its current decent into decay is...and trying to figure out how to fix it.

She's also a sorceress, and a Mystic one, at that; her innate magics have...guided her onto a path that hopefully leads toward the healing of the world.  She also really enjoys sleeping and lounging in trees, and can often be found traveling through the upper canopy of whichever forest or jungle she finds herself in.

She doesn't mind sleeping outside without any protection from nature (it's certainly not unusual to find her basking in the heat of a sun-warmed stone), but she does make sure that some form of protection is set which will alert and awaken her to danger.  She tries not to be aloof, but sometimes its hard for her to pay attention to what people are talking about - especially if she has some puzzle to solve or has noticed something new or unusual.

Also, she does have an animal companion - a smaller coral snake - with whom she often carries on...odd...conversations which consist primarily of hisses and tongue flicks.  It seems less like a pet, and more like a favored companion/friend.  When she's interacting with it is when she seems the most...emotional and attentive (to a conversational partner).

I believe Mis'sha and I are going to have to figure out some background stuff, which I am eager to do. :-)

[Private to The echo of the past: Is it permissible to use the Dragonmark Feat out of the UA: Eberron 1.1 update? http://dnd.wizards.com/article...rthed-arcana-eberron if you need the document :-)
If so, which marks are allowed or encouraged? Finding, Hospitality, Passage, and Scribing are the ones that seem most appropriate for Qisstralya.
]
Mis'sha
 player, 11 posts
 The curious snake girl
Mon 12 Sep 2016
at 22:07
Re: OOC
Unless we're split across two groups, which would make sense since we're so similar. :)
Grail Damos
 player, 8 posts
Mon 12 Sep 2016
at 22:28
Re: OOC
Swapped out some cantrips.  Was willing to give up some more powerful ones for ones that were more his style character-wise.
Ka'resh
 player, 11 posts
 The quick shadow.
 It's a Gift, and a Curse.
Mon 12 Sep 2016
at 23:33
Re: OOC
Two Groups, Same goal! Why read the book when you can get the highlights of knowledge from your friend who passed through here last week!

Then again, similarity breeds friendships! We wouldn't want to break that. xD
Luther Sorrel
 player, 5 posts
Tue 13 Sep 2016
at 19:12
Re: OOC
Back on a PC finally, and just pretty much finished my sheet for DM approval.

The last thing I'm adding to it is a better fleshed-out character background (keeping it short, but filling in missing details and making it a bit more comprehensible than my original RTJ :)  After that, character description!  These shouldn't necessarily hold us up from starting the game, in case the DM was waiting for us all to get done.

EDIT:  Alright, the backstory on the character sheet and the descriptions are both done.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:00, Wed 14 Sept 2016.

Grail Damos
 player, 9 posts
Thu 15 Sep 2016
at 02:54
Re: OOC
So... Is there a planned start date for this shindig?
Tigress
 player, 8 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Thu 15 Sep 2016
at 02:58
Re: OOC
Unless the DM has any problems, I believe I am also waiting on approval.
Mis'sha
 player, 14 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Thu 15 Sep 2016
at 15:39
Re: OOC

Snake girls have huge PP's. It is known.
The echo of the past
 GM, 32 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 04:28
Re: OOC
Possible group 1
Mis'sha
Tigress
Luther
Karliah

Possible Group 2
Qisstralya
Grail
Val'Cryel
Rahkra

These are subject to everybody getting approved and finishing before tomorrow
Karliah Culver
 player, 9 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 05:05
Re: OOC
Are Scholars casters, Mis'sha? Because if not our group is going to lack in the magic department. I know Witch Hunters get a little magic but I'm not sure how much.

Regardless though, I'd be happy with that grouping.
Mis'sha
 player, 15 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 08:12
Re: OOC
No, Scholars don't have a bit of magic to them. They're more experts, like the rogue. I get the impression they are less useful in combat (if you don't take the combat subclass) and more useful in investigation. The Explorer subclass which I have is very versatile. Every short rest they can change their specialization a little to adapt to the current situation, although the options are limited. But for example, if we see a trapped hallway, I can take a short rest to specialize myself in trapfinding.
Val'Cryel
 player, 13 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 26/26 hp | AC 19 | PP 15
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 10:53
Re: OOC
Solved my own question.

This message was last edited by the player at 10:59, Fri 16 Sept 2016.

Tigress
 player, 11 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 14:07
Re: OOC
Tigress has no objections.
Karliah Culver
 player, 10 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 14:54
Re: OOC
Okay, that's cool. We'll be a bunch of nonmagic badasses.

I think I actually like that. It limits our variety of capabilities, but it works well with my (and I think Luther's) magic hating backgrounds.
Tigress
 player, 12 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 15:09
Re: OOC
*grin and creepy chuckle*

Oh, you don't know my girl's backstory yet. >:)
Mis'sha
 player, 16 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 15:15
Re: OOC
Me when reading Tigress' description;
http://media2.giphy.com/media/EHvmXATw2de1i/giphy.gif
Val'Cryel
 player, 14 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 15:39
Re: OOC
Here's ta hoping the other group is as active. >.<

Well, you and Quiss should have some way to contact each other as a minor magic item to share discoveries and what not, mayhap help dictate finding out things in two different areas that help lead to the same main source!

That would make both of you leaders though. >.>
My character's only goal currently is to stay somewhat on the move until he finds a way to take down his own BBEG.
As to tie me to my group, its easy enough. I'm looking for help to take down a specific wizard. In return i'm helping with your goals till either i believe we can do it, or the issue is decided for us. xD
Mis'sha
 player, 17 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 15:52
Re: OOC
Val'Cryel:
Well, you and Quiss should have some way to contact each other as a minor magic item to share discoveries and what not, mayhap help dictate finding out things in two different areas that help lead to the same main source!

That would make both of you leaders though. >.>


We are the snake girls. Your characters will adapt to serve us. Resistance is futile.
Val'Cryel
 player, 15 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 16:05
Re: OOC
Snake Charmers. Ah, Snakes that Charm. hehe
But i'm already resisting the control of wizards, Why not add more to the list?
Your Feminine wiles cannot control me! I'm succumb more to the Foxes. xD
Luther Sorrel
 player, 7 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 18:58
Re: OOC
Luther is a laid back guy who doesn't want to take charge of anything, so he'd be fine having a snake lady boss.  I'm a proactive sort of player so that may be an RP challenge, but I'll do my best :)  On the other hand, once blood is in the water and the Cackler is unleashed he'll listen to nobody >:)
Tigress
 player, 13 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 19:02
Re: OOC
I'm curious of this Cackler, and interested to see how this works out in-game.
Grail Damos
 player, 11 posts
 AC14 | HP 31/31 | PP12
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 19:07
Re: OOC
Val'Cryel:
Here's ta hoping the other group is as active. >.<


Ditto
Luther Sorrel
 player, 8 posts
Fri 16 Sep 2016
at 20:21
Re: OOC
Tigress:
I'm curious of this Cackler, and interested to see how this works out in-game.

Me too!  My goal is to try to RP a real rage problem with a realistic-ish drawback of loss of control, as opposed to just being the scowly guy who can buff himself with a bonus action sometimes :P  I'll make an effort to have the problems I cause lead to fun craziness rather than being just annoying and disruptive!
Karliah Culver
 player, 11 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Sat 17 Sep 2016
at 01:21
Re: OOC
Karliah is a natural rebel and doesn't respond well to authority. Lol
Tigress
 player, 14 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Sat 17 Sep 2016
at 01:36
Re: OOC
Tigress has some respect for authority, but she's an anger-filled haunted individual who does whatever the frick she wants to in battle or if there are mages nearby.

Matter of fact, if there is a mage nearby that we, for whatever reason, don't want killed... y'all will have to knock Tigress out.
Val'Cryel
 player, 16 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Sat 17 Sep 2016
at 01:53
Re: OOC
Hmmm thats a huge bounty there Tigress... Perhaps i can collect and then let you loose. xD
Val'Cryel
 player, 18 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Sat 17 Sep 2016
at 04:37
Re: OOC
Hmm.. Perhaps it would be in best interest, to decide who we've maybe had a run in before? ^.^
Mis'sha
 player, 18 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sat 17 Sep 2016
at 19:46
Re: OOC
What kind of place is Mossou? What are its people like? What facilities does it have? What's the surrounding geography like (terrain, noteworthy places)? Why do people come here? My character must've come here for a reason, anything from it being a convenient stop to it having a library I want to check in on? :D
Val'Cryel
 player, 19 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Sat 17 Sep 2016
at 19:48
Re: OOC
Last known spotting of that vampire like creature walking in the sunlight.
xD
Mis'sha
 player, 19 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sat 17 Sep 2016
at 19:49
Re: OOC
The vampires must be behind the sun dimming! It all makes sense! To save this world, we need an inquisition! :p
Rahkra
 player, 1 post
Sat 17 Sep 2016
at 21:34
Re: OOC
Hey all.

Rahkra here. She had some identity issues coming in from the rtj so current character sheet is pending dm approval otherwise she might end up having another round of therapy.
The echo of the past
 GM, 35 posts
Sat 17 Sep 2016
at 23:25
Re: OOC
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 76):

Mossou is a trade outpost, the people is kind of more tolerant since they are basically on the border with a couple of wizardoms, notably Bukhern beyond the mountains at the North. Inside the country it is connected with roads across the forests to better and bigger cities.

As all places inside the free reigns, writing of any kind is forbidden. so you won't find any book let alone a library. But the realms north have libraries such as Bukhern, though it is heavily custodied, and a couple of small city-states ruled by wizards.
Karliah Culver
 player, 12 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Sun 18 Sep 2016
at 06:24
Re: OOC
Mis'sha, we are assuming our characters have already met, yes? Shall they be together already in the market, or will this be a fortuitous bumping-into each other?
Mis'sha
 player, 20 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sun 18 Sep 2016
at 09:23
Re: OOC
There shall be fortuitous bumping!

(Not of the kind depicted in anime)
Karliah Culver
 player, 13 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Sun 18 Sep 2016
at 09:37
Re: OOC
? Mis'sha did you see the post right above the one you just made?
The echo of the past
 GM, 36 posts
Sun 18 Sep 2016
at 17:11
Re: OOC
The idea is for the four to meet right there and then.
Mis'sha
 player, 22 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sun 18 Sep 2016
at 17:21
Re: OOC
*Post editing for bumping!*
Grail Damos
 player, 14 posts
 AC14 | HP 31/31 | PP12
Sun 18 Sep 2016
at 19:06
Re: OOC
I'm assuming swimming falls under athletics.  *Checks character sheet* Hmmm, not good not good.
The echo of the past
 GM, 37 posts
Sun 18 Sep 2016
at 21:56
Re: OOC
I'm waiting for Val's answer and then post the obvious impending result...

Everybody on group 2. Please introduce yourselves to Mis'sha.

I'm waiting for our serpentine members to post the last details in order to greenlight you.
Mis'sha
 player, 24 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 14:25
Re: OOC
I'm going to hold back on posting a bit so the others can join in.
Grail Damos
 player, 15 posts
 AC14 | HP 31/31 | PP12
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 14:49
Re: OOC
Spending the next week in the mountains.  Hope to still have Internet access but not positive.

This message was last edited by the player at 15:59, Mon 19 Sept 2016.

Luther Sorrel
 player, 9 posts
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 15:09
Re: OOC
I've had a long weekend in which I ran a Spartan race on Saturday and then spent Sunday limping my way through housework and errands while saying 'ow' a lot :)  Anyway, I'll be on my PC and posting within a few hours!
Tigress
 player, 15 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 15:52
Re: OOC
Damn, Luther... lolz.

Also, does the DM mean Group 1? On the previous page, Mis'sha is in group 1.

Edit: Oh, I see. Nevermind, my bad.

This message was last edited by the player at 15:53, Mon 19 Sept 2016.

Tigress
 player, 17 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 21:43
Re: OOC
I just realized that Luther's the only dude in our crew.
The echo of the past
 GM, 39 posts
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 21:55
Re: OOC
So did I...
Tigress
 player, 19 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 21:57
Re: OOC
So, it's a gunslinger, a snake-lady, a mentally-damaged Blood Hunter, and a dude with (I'm guessing) a demon inside him.

Wow, nothing in their right mind would mess with us. lolz.
Mis'sha
 player, 25 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 22:13
Re: OOC
Jeeeeesh, what's with all the angst? I haven't seen things this bad since goths became a thing. :p
Luther Sorrel
 player, 11 posts
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 22:21
Re: OOC
Tigress:
I just realized that Luther's the only dude in our crew.

Yeah, I just realized the same thing while writing my post.  Looks like Luther will be the loutish henchman in this otherwise classy crew!

We'll be unstoppable if we can find a good reason to work together.  That may be our undoing :)
The echo of the past
 GM, 40 posts
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 22:29
Re: OOC
I don't want to force you all so straight into conflict, but weeelll
Tigress
 player, 20 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 22:38
Re: OOC
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 95):

Enough with the 'angst' comments, please.
Grail Damos
 player, 17 posts
 AC14 | HP 31/31 | PP12
Mon 19 Sep 2016
at 23:41
Re: OOC
Going to see if I make it across the bridge unscathed before responding to Val.
Mis'sha
 player, 27 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 08:01
Re: OOC
Any particular scents I might pick up Luther? Cologne? Obscura? The demonic forces of hell? Daffodils?
Val'Cryel
 player, 22 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 11:40
Re: OOC
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 100):

I'm thinking sweet tobacco, the open road, and... blood? xD
Luther Sorrel
 player, 13 posts
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 15:30
Re: OOC
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 100):

Hmm, smells... A lot of flavored pipe smoke (is it tobacco? I dunno!), probably some hay and less savory smells from the stable he slept in the night before, roasted meat, road dust and general medieval BO :P

I gave that question a lot more thought than it probably deserved.  The less we think of our characters' stenches the better!  It's really hard to find a merchant that carries Eau d'Abyss, you know.
Mis'sha
 player, 29 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 18:56
Re: OOC
I was mostly wondering if I could smell the taint of the demon on you. :)
Karliah Culver
 player, 17 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 18:57
Re: OOC
That's sulfur.
Mis'sha
 player, 30 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 18:58
Re: OOC
Oh please, so cliché, and limited to the smelling palette of humans.
Karliah Culver
 player, 18 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:04
Re: OOC
I think it's literally in the monster manual that the presence of demons can be detected by the smell of sulfur lol.

Besides, what would expect demon to smell like? Albondigas?
Mis'sha
 player, 31 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:05
Re: OOC
The MM is clearly written by someone of the human palete. And as this language is theirs as well, one can hardly explain what the creatures smell like as it simply lacks the words! :p
Luther Sorrel
 player, 14 posts
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:07
Re: OOC
You might catch a tinge of sulfur scent on Luther.  It could perhaps be the telltale evidence of possession by a malicious demonic entity!  ...or it could be evidence of yesterday's bean stew lunch.  You'll have to decide for yourself what to believe, detective Mis :)
Mis'sha
 player, 32 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:07
Re: OOC
Is the demon inside, or is it on a metaphysical level? We must cut it open and see, yes? >:D

For Science!

This message was last edited by the player at 19:08, Tue 20 Sept 2016.

Karliah Culver
 player, 19 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:10
Re: OOC
Luther Sorrel:
You might catch a tinge of sulfur scent on Luther.  It could perhaps be the telltale evidence of possession by a malicious demonic entity!  ...or it could be evidence of yesterday's bean stew lunch.  You'll have to decide for yourself what to believe, detective Mis :)

Who the hell made your bean stew and have you fired them yet
Mis'sha
 player, 33 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:11
Re: OOC
Bean stew is good stew!
Luther Sorrel
 player, 15 posts
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:13
Re: OOC
Mis, your interest in Luther's fragrances is becoming an unhealthy obsession!  You might need some aromatherapy, or perhaps just a good slither through a rose garden or something to clear your palate :)
Mis'sha
 player, 34 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:30
Re: OOC
Rose Garden? No no dear. Ginger clears the palette. Roses are just good for sneezing.
Karliah Culver
 player, 20 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:33
Re: OOC
Wouldn't that be a human's reaction to both?
Mis'sha
 player, 35 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 20 Sep 2016
at 19:44
Re: OOC
Touché!
The echo of the past
 GM, 45 posts
Wed 21 Sep 2016
at 22:52
Re: OOC
If any of you on group 2 has seen MLP:FIM, think of Fluttershy during the start of Dragonshy...
Val'Cryel
 player, 24 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Thu 22 Sep 2016
at 00:55
Re: OOC
Awwww. I want what they have! lol
Mis'sha
 player, 36 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Thu 22 Sep 2016
at 06:30
Re: OOC
THE SNAKE GIRLS ARE COMING!!!1!

>:D
Qisstralya
 player, 2 posts
 Slither softly...
 ...strike suddenly
Thu 22 Sep 2016
at 20:52
Re: OOC
With apologies, I must say that it may be a day or two longer before I can actually join; I was in the hospital over the weekend (no worries, just a few seizures and now I'm getting proper treatment from the VA, so overall a plus), and am still recovering.  BUT!  I'll be interacting properly soon. :-)

Thanks for understanding!
Rahkra
 player, 6 posts
 HP 30/30, AC 18, PP 13
Thu 22 Sep 2016
at 22:08
Re: OOC
As far as excuses go that is pretty damn good one.

Hope you are feeling better soon.
Tigress
 player, 23 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Mon 26 Sep 2016
at 00:39
Re: OOC
So, how's everyone doing?
The echo of the past
 GM, 46 posts
Mon 26 Sep 2016
at 00:47
Re: OOC
I'll update soon...

* opens monster manual and starts a maniacal laughter *
Mis'sha
 player, 37 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Mon 26 Sep 2016
at 09:54
Re: OOC
*Points at quetzalcoatl entry*
Rahkra
 player, 8 posts
 HP 30/30, AC 18, PP 13
Mon 26 Sep 2016
at 11:21
Re: OOC
As long as it's not yuan-ti. Then i'd have to change my portrait.
Val'Cryel
 player, 31 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 5/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Tue 27 Sep 2016
at 11:45
Re: OOC
Welp, To answer your question Tigress, I'm bout dead. Lol hopefully the others make the save and can rescue me from the cursed rolls. XD
How's your adorable she creature? ^.^
Tigress
 player, 26 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Tue 27 Sep 2016
at 13:59
Re: OOC
Jumped out of her skin because Karliah fired her gun for the first time. lolz.
Rahkra
 player, 11 posts
 HP 13/30, AC 18, PP 13
Tue 27 Sep 2016
at 14:42
Re: OOC
Val'Cryel:
Welp, To answer your question Tigress, I'm bout dead. Lol hopefully the others make the save and can rescue me from the cursed rolls. XD


No luck i'm afraid. I effectively missed a turn because i wasn't sure if i was acting before or after the naga and it fried me pretty good.

Here's hoping it rolls as well as you :S
Karliah Culver
 player, 24 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Tue 27 Sep 2016
at 15:49
Re: OOC
Just for the sake of my fellow players and the DM; I have seen your posts, but I'm waiting for my last action to be resolved before responding. After all, there is little chance I could respond before it became evident if I hit/killed the creature.
Tigress
 player, 27 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Tue 27 Sep 2016
at 15:58
Re: OOC
I know what Tigress is gonna do, but I'm also waiting to see if it hit.
The echo of the past
 GM, 57 posts
Fri 30 Sep 2016
at 15:44
Re: OOC
Ok, will update soon. Pinkie swear. I need to roll a bunch of initiatives and sort the map.
Karliah Culver
 player, 26 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Thu 6 Oct 2016
at 04:49
Re: OOC
Holy crap that map looks like it was a pain in the ass lol.

DM, you said to post opening moves, so I did. Do you still want me to post?
The echo of the past
 GM, 59 posts
Thu 6 Oct 2016
at 15:17
Re: OOC
Take your turn. I still suck at using google docs for maps...
Tigress
 player, 29 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 32/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Thu 6 Oct 2016
at 16:00
Re: OOC
Omg, it took me so long to find my spot...
Karliah Culver
 player, 27 posts
Thu 6 Oct 2016
at 16:50
Re: OOC

This message was deleted by the player at 17:39, Thu 06 Oct 2016.

Luther Sorrel
 player, 20 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Thu 6 Oct 2016
at 17:22
Re: OOC
Maybe you'll want to cut and paste that over to the IC thread, Karliah :)
Karliah Culver
 player, 29 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Thu 6 Oct 2016
at 17:39
Re: OOC
Ah, son of a...

No idea how I did that. Thanks, DM.
Karliah Culver
 player, 31 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 00:57
Re: OOC
That was a downright sexy turn if I do say so myself.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 21 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 01:12
Re: OOC
Well, dang!  Here I was feeling all impressed with myself and my big hit, then along comes Karliah with guns a-blazing to drop three vultures and wound a fourth.

Bravo! :D
Karliah Culver
 player, 32 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 01:28
Re: OOC
Maybe drop four if the DM will let that *one* 9 be an already-wounded one. Lol

Seriously though, that 25 damage in a single hit was freacking impressive, Luther. It'll be awesome when you get to 5th and have an extra attack, and we go up against a boss or something with more HP.

This message was last edited by the player at 01:29, Sat 08 Oct 2016.

Luther Sorrel
 player, 22 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 01:50
Re: OOC
Thanks.  High fives for killing stuff!

I don't get an extra attack until level 6 because I multiclassed 1 into Fighter :(  I have a few other ways to get an extra bonus action attack per turn in the meantime, though!  I used up my bonus action to rage this turn though, so I didn't get one for the kill.
Karliah Culver
 player, 33 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 04:48
Re: OOC
In reply to Luther Sorrel (msg # 140):

Ah! First? It's a good choice actually. It'll help you maximize your damage and whatnot.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 23 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 05:13
Re: OOC
Yeah, started with Fighter at level 1.  I really wanted Great Weapon Fighting style, and I should get a lot of bang for buck out of Second Wind since I'll have resistance a lot of the time.

Definitely getting ahead of myself here, but if I get to level up three times then I'll probably take another Fighter level at 7 for that sweet, sweet Action Surge.  That would bring me up to a potential 5 attacks in a round.  I doubt that this maniac survives that long, though :)
Mis'sha
 player, 42 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 07:08
Re: OOC
*Shoots nerf bolts from toy gun from under wagon*
Karliah Culver
 player, 34 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 13:51
Re: OOC
In reply to Luther Sorrel (msg # 142):

You're gonna be using frenzied attack for your bonus action attack right? Yeah, unfortunately you can only do that once a day right? Because action surge does allow you to use another bonus action, which is why I was able to do what I just did.

And don't worry Mis'sha; I'm excited to see what you can do outside of combat.
Mis'sha
 player, 43 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 14:41
Re: OOC
I'm excited to see if your characters are as interesting outside of combat as in it. :p

*Hides*
Karliah Culver
 player, 35 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 15:10
Re: OOC
Why would we have to be? Don't want to steal all your non-combative thunder.
Mis'sha
 player, 44 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sat 8 Oct 2016
at 15:25
Re: OOC
Oh I'm not talking about my abilities, but about RP. :)
Karliah Culver
 player, 36 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Sun 9 Oct 2016
at 00:22
Re: OOC
Ah, well, how could we ever measure up besides the 'magical snake girl'? Lol
Luther Sorrel
 player, 24 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Sun 9 Oct 2016
at 04:25
Re: OOC
In reply to Karliah Culver (msg # 144):

I have to go into a frenzied rage to get the unconditional extra bonus attack every round, which I didn't do this time.  I can do that as often as I can rage, but I get a level of exhaustion after the rage.  I'll save that one for extra angry rages :)  This fight I need to kill something or crit to get the extra attack.


In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 147):

In my case I wanted to make my guy kind of a combat monster specifically to live up to his story I'm RPing!  If he wasn't a big-walloping killer then the Cackler would be a harder sell :)
Tigress
 player, 31 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 28/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Sun 9 Oct 2016
at 15:35
Re: OOC
Did I take 20 damage?
The echo of the past
 GM, 64 posts
Sun 9 Oct 2016
at 15:55
Re: OOC
unless you have a reaction to help.... u_u sorry I thought you'd take less damage if I rolled.
Tigress
 player, 33 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 8/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Sun 9 Oct 2016
at 16:46
Re: OOC
My reaction IS the opportunity attack.

Damn, almost did enough damage to kill the vulture... (I did 9 last round to this same vulture, then an additional 10 for the opportunity attack. 3 short...)
Tigress
 player, 34 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 8/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Sun 9 Oct 2016
at 17:38
Re: OOC
Thanks anyway, snake girl.
Mis'sha
 player, 46 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sun 9 Oct 2016
at 17:46
Re: OOC
I tried! :'(
Tigress
 player, 36 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 8/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Sun 9 Oct 2016
at 18:52
Re: OOC
Fuck, I was hoping to not have to use this so soon...

Screw it, I need to kill this vulture, I need my action.

Yes! Polearm Master, baby!

This message was last edited by the player at 18:53, Sun 09 Oct 2016.

Karliah Culver
 player, 38 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 32/32 | AC: 17
Mon 10 Oct 2016
at 05:33
Re: OOC
I'm a little confused as to what the 'x' beneath one of the skeletons attacking me is for.
Tigress
 player, 37 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 8/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Mon 10 Oct 2016
at 05:43
Re: OOC
Maybe a dead civilian?

Also, I was about to point out that skeletons have vulnerability to bludgeoning, only to remember that Pepperbox damage is piercing... T_T
Tigress
 player, 38 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 1/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Mon 10 Oct 2016
at 17:59
Re: OOC
And, that's a miss with a 9...
The echo of the past
 GM, 67 posts
Mon 10 Oct 2016
at 18:03
Re: OOC
Ignore the x in the map. they are markers I use to remember which enemies act inn which stage. They started as dead civilians though.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 25 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Mon 10 Oct 2016
at 19:59
Re: OOC
Is there a reason the civilians aren't moving?  They're dropping like flies, so it seems in their best interest to get a move on :P
Tigress
 player, 39 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 1/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Mon 10 Oct 2016
at 20:26
Re: OOC
Low movement speed? lolz.
The echo of the past
 GM, 68 posts
Mon 10 Oct 2016
at 20:27
Re: OOC
I wanted to move them, but it would take like three times as much time to update and I would lose track of them. There's so many of them...
Val'Cryel
 player, 34 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 11/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Mon 10 Oct 2016
at 20:34
Re: OOC
Laziness is a justifiable reason to drop civies! xD
The echo of the past
 GM, 71 posts
Tue 11 Oct 2016
at 21:45
Re: OOC
Is it me or Rahkra's been AWOL for a while?
Tigress
 player, 41 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 1/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Tue 11 Oct 2016
at 21:52
Re: OOC
I dunno what the rest of y'all are up to. My group's fighting birds and bones.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 26 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Tue 11 Oct 2016
at 22:01
Re: OOC
The echo of the past:
Is it me or Rahkra's been AWOL for a while?
Last login a week ago, last post a week and a half ago according to the cast list.  Probably best to NPC them until the player returns to keep the group moving.


In reply to Tigress (msg # 165):

Yeah, our group is in a pretty fowl situation.  We may be boned!

...I'll show myself out.
Karliah Culver
 player, 40 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Tue 11 Oct 2016
at 22:52
Re: OOC
In reply to Luther Sorrel (msg # 166):

Showing yourself out is too good. We're gonna have to draw and quarter you.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 27 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Tue 11 Oct 2016
at 23:14
Re: OOC
In reply to Karliah Culver (msg # 167):

Harsh!  I'm all broken up by your cruelty.  I'm just going to pieces over it!
The echo of the past
 GM, 74 posts
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 03:56
Re: OOC
Ok, Mis'sha gets a turn and there is only one skeleton and a crazy bloodknight left.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 29 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 05:39
Re: OOC
Tigress:
Oh, crap, I was a target?!
Gah, don't hit meeee! DX

When all the nearby foes are dead the Cackler turns to whoever is closest and catches his eye first :(  If you can get away, hide or give him a new target he'll leave you alone.  He doesn't exactly do higher order thinking in this state either, so it'd probably not be hard to trick or distract him.

Man, I sure hope the civilians run away!  Now it's getting worrisome playing the bloodthirsty madman :/
Tigress
 player, 43 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 1/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 05:42
Re: OOC
Luther Sorrel:
Man, I sure hope the civilians run away!  Now it's getting worrisome playing the bloodthirsty madman :/


Ya should of thought about that before you took your guy from a slasher-flick. lolz.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 30 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 06:28
Re: OOC
In reply to Tigress (msg # 171):

I know, right? :P  Well, I did think about it quite a bit, but at this point I've scared myself with my own character, haha.  It's fun and uncomfortable in equal measure.  He gave warnings, at least!  I'll have to take solace in that, and we'll see how it goes!
Karliah Culver
 player, 42 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 16:46
Re: OOC
Is there a reason we're seeing the other group's thread now?
Val'Cryel
 player, 35 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 11/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 19:16
Re: OOC
So i would know people are still here. xD
Mis'sha
 player, 51 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 19:17
Re: OOC
All dimensions, all realities, are OPEN TO ME! :o
Val'Cryel
 player, 36 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 11/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 19:33
Re: OOC
Open to 'Us'. Crazy snake. xD Our combat did not go nearly as well. lol
Mis'sha
 player, 53 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 19:41
Re: OOC
It would help if the lot of you weren't pure damage dealers. I need you guys to trigger STR, DEX and CON saves on our enemies!
Karliah Culver
 player, 44 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 19:42
Re: OOC
In reply to Val'Cryel (msg # 176):

Me, Luther, and Tigress are here to kick ass and chew bubblegum.

And we're all out of bubblegum.

*Glances nervously at Mis'sha and sweats*

She's our ride.
Mis'sha
 player, 54 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 19:43
Re: OOC
YOU FOO! YOU BETTER NOT SCRATCH MAH VAN!
Val'Cryel
 player, 37 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 11/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 19:48
Re: OOC
lol
Luther Sorrel
 player, 31 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 19:54
Re: OOC
I like being able to see the other thread to keep up with what else is going on, even though our characters have no clue about it!

Sorry, Mis, the only saves I'll be triggering are death saves >:D

Can we humanoids even ride on that wagon, by the way?  From the initial description it sounded like a weird snake-hive with no accommodation at all for us bipeds :)

This message was last edited by the player at 19:54, Thu 13 Oct 2016.

Karliah Culver
 player, 45 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 19:57
Re: OOC
In reply to Luther Sorrel (msg # 181):

It's like those big plastic tubes at kiddy playgrouds in McDonald's. Not actually meant for humans, but fun, until you have to live in one.

And for the record I have no issue with seeing the other group's thread, I was just wondering if there was something in particular I should know.
Mis'sha
 player, 55 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 20:11
Re: OOC
I never said it would be comfortable. :p
Val'Cryel
 player, 38 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 11/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 20:18
Re: OOC
you pay extra for comfort.
"But... we don't pay anything?"
Thats what you think. Mwuhahahahahha
Tigress
 player, 45 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 1/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 20:28
Re: OOC
Did Mis'sha just go nerdy biologist on Tigress? lolz.
Mis'sha
 player, 57 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 20:55
Re: OOC
I'm a scholar dear. I catalogue.
The echo of the past
 GM, 78 posts
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 21:08
Re: OOC
Please solve this without coming to blows.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 33 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 21:25
Re: OOC
Wow Tigress, I didn't see that coming!  Hail, fellow raging beast :D

Hopefully there's no further need for hostility, DM, unless anyone feels the need to hit Luther for acting a fool :)
Tigress
 player, 46 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 1/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 21:40
Re: OOC
Oh, I thought we would have to knock you out! My bad!

Well, the tiger's out of the bag for no reason...
Luther Sorrel
 player, 34 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 21:47
Re: OOC
A weretiger is its own reward!

But it wasn't useless anyway, because if you hadn't lured the Cackler over with a challenge then he'd have either taken a bullet or started smashing civilians.  You and Karliah successfully distracted him long enough to go a turn without attacking, which was enough to defuse him :)
Mis'sha
 player, 59 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 22:04
Re: OOC
Yes, Mis'sha has a snaking script. Get it? Snaking?


The echo of the past
 GM, 81 posts
Thu 13 Oct 2016
at 22:24
Re: OOC
Well the groups are together. Will do some cleanup, and open a players wanted for a controlling spellcaster.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 36 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Fri 14 Oct 2016
at 03:15
Re: OOC
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 191):

Hehe, I'd expect Yaran handwriting to consist of a whole lot of squiggly lines.  If you cross your eyes a little on a page of your handwriting can you see a hidden 3D picture? :)

Tigress:
The elf, who was still a weretiger, shrugged her shoulders.

Um, woops!  Missed that bit.  Not going to edit my post at this point, so just imagine that Luther said more or less the same stuff, just a good bit more cautious at the beginning and referring to the weretiger thing in present tense, hehe.
The echo of the past
 GM, 83 posts
Fri 14 Oct 2016
at 19:35
Re: OOC
Ok, opened up the players wanted and some RTJs are coming in. I think its four people interested so far on the new slot. I will close the RTJs about tomorrow or so. So far choices have been hard, so I will ask you to help with the auditions. I will pass on to you the descriptions and stuff of the people wanting to join and you'll vote for the one you want.

Is this ok?
The echo of the past
 GM, 84 posts
Fri 14 Oct 2016
at 19:38
Re: OOC
Oh yes and everybody gets 2000 xp.

This message was last edited by the GM at 19:39, Fri 14 Oct 2016.

Luther Sorrel
 player, 37 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Fri 14 Oct 2016
at 19:54
Re: OOC
Hooray for tons of XP!

Sure, I'd be happy to give feedback on RTJs if you're having trouble deciding.  I'd prefer not to see any secrets or other details we wouldn't learn within a short while after being acquainted, though.  More fun to discover that stuff in-game :)
Val'Cryel
 player, 39 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 11/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 12:30
Re: OOC
Such talk of assassination. It is lovely that we can all bind under a common want. To plan a murder... xD
The echo of the past
 GM, 85 posts
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 12:44
Re: OOC
Val, post IC. You wike up in the middle of it all
Mis'sha
 player, 62 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 12:47
Re: OOC
But it's an evil guy we're killing. It's fine to kill evil people. Because we're the good guys. Amirite? Or are you one of them People for the Ethical Treatment of Abominations people? srsly. :p
Val'Cryel
 player, 40 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 11/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 12:56
Re: OOC
Yesa massa. Was skimming through the pages to see where i would be and why i wasn't helping. lol Will post within the hour, pending a response from the DM.
[Private to GM: That said, do i have any knowledge i can offer these people? Something to tie in with going with them or them going with me? Or even a healing potion or two to burn through right now to help with those with 1 hp (since the medicine kit doesn't actually do anything besides stabilize?
I do have an herbalist kit, and a medicine kit so it would fit well enough.
]

This message was last edited by the player at 13:19, Sat 15 Oct 2016.

Val'Cryel
 player, 44 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 16:29
Re: OOC
Lol Mis'sha. I didn't even notice your post. xD
A Killer killing killers would still make them killers, so then the killers who killed killers would be hunted by killers who would then kill the killer of killers making the killing cycle continue. :O
Mis'sha
 player, 64 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 17:31
Re: OOC
Nah, we're the heroes. Nothing can kill us, silly.
Val'Cryel
 player, 47 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 18:23
Re: OOC
Hazzah tigress. Give me a moment to edit. >.<

Those are probably herbs your smell/tasting Mis'Sha. ^.^

This message was last edited by the player at 18:33, Sat 15 Oct 2016.

Val'Cryel
 player, 49 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 21:40
Re: OOC
quote:
I highly doubt you can smell alignment. Fear and species, yes, but alignment is doubtful.


I'm thinking more along the ghost or dead or not of this world. xD
The echo of the past
 GM, 86 posts
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 21:49
Re: OOC
Well the proper smell would be "like a newborn. In a way like rotten flesh but at the same time exactly the opposite"
Val'Cryel
 player, 51 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Sat 15 Oct 2016
at 22:40
Re: OOC
Well, that's weird. lol
The echo of the past
 GM, 90 posts
Mon 17 Oct 2016
at 21:38
Re: OOC
Ok, added all new applicants. Take the time to work on your PC, get to know each other. The slot in the original party will be filled by one of you. [Private to Lavarian Galonodel: Possibly you.] [Private to Nihil: Possibly you.] The others will form a new party.
Nihil
 player, 1 post
Mon 17 Oct 2016
at 22:02
Re: OOC
Hello all. I'm Nihil. I'm new here. Sorcerer and merc.
Val'Cryel
 player, 53 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Mon 17 Oct 2016
at 22:27
Re: OOC
Well hello there fellow Zwilian. ^.^
Deacade
 player, 1 post
Mon 17 Oct 2016
at 22:53
Re: OOC
Hello everyone, I'm excited to get started on this. And this is also extremely awkward. I'm moving to a new house as I type this and it may be a few days before I get internet back on. I'm hoping for just a day or two without. It shouldn't be any later than this weekend but who knows with private companies. They move at their own speed. I apologize for the inconvenience and I will try my best to post from my phone.
Lavarian Galonodel
 player, 1 post
Mon 17 Oct 2016
at 23:08
Re: OOC
Hey folks, your friendly neighborhood warlock here. Although I might be a bard, depending on how things go...
Luther Sorrel
 player, 42 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Mon 17 Oct 2016
at 23:14
Re: OOC
Welcome, new folks!  Happy wizard-slaying to you all :)
Khaaven Shadowstalker
 player, 1 post
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 00:21
Re: OOC
A new bloodhunter, order of the lycan.Getting ready to rid the world of wizards mainly the lich ones.
Nihil
 player, 2 posts
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 01:15
Re: OOC
Any of you guys sorcerers?
Lavarian Galonodel
 player, 2 posts
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 03:21
Re: OOC
I guess I could be a sorcerer? Honestly, I don't find the 5e sorcerers to be particularly appealing. The Dragon lineages aren't a lot of fun for me, and Wild Magic is... well, let's just say I got my fill of psyker bullshit in 40K, thank you very much.
Mis'sha
 player, 70 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 07:44
Re: OOC
Have you played under that name before Lavarian? It seems hella familiar to me..
The echo of the past
 GM, 93 posts
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 10:15
Re: OOC
In reply to Lavarian Galonodel (msg # 215):

Well, good thing in this game anything goes for sorcerer archetypes. You can use any third party/homebrewed material for your sorcerer. I just added one to the homebrewed material if you don't want to look further.
Val'Cryel
 player, 55 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 11:39
Re: OOC
Who is cheery about a sore neck? Karliah, Pinkie promise you at least bake some mean cupcakes to make this better. XD
Karliah Culver
 player, 54 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 12:35
Re: OOC
In reply to Val'Cryel (msg # 218):

Actually I have a great recipe for triple-spice cupcakes!

They may involve gunpowder.

They may actually be exploding cupcakes.

They may actually be used for assassinating wizard-lords.


Lol. And Lavarian; you should check out Favored Soul or the Storm Sorcerer from unearthed Arcana. They're both pretty good. Here's the links, the first includes Favored Soul, and the second includes the Storm Sorcerer.

https://dnd.wizards.com/articl...na/modifying-classes

http://dnd.wizards.com/article...aterborne-adventures
Luther Sorrel
 player, 43 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 18:03
Re: OOC
Karliah Culver:
Actually I have a great recipe for triple-spice cupcakes!

They may involve gunpowder.

They may actually be exploding cupcakes.

They may actually be used for assassinating wizard-lords.

Has anyone read the Powder Mage trilogy by Brian McClellan?  I just started the third book, and that gunpowder cupcake sounds like a tasty power-snack for a powder mage :D

Actually, the version of the Storm Sorcerer from Waterborne adventures is an older version.  The "official" one is printed in the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide, minus the bonus spells.  Favored Soul still has bonus spells, which makes it kind of bonkers since it also gives armor proficiency and an extra attack :P
Lavarian Galonodel
 player, 3 posts
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 18:09
Re: OOC
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 216):

I have, indeed. He's one of those characters that has never been able to go anywhere because the games with him keep dying, so I shuffle him around until he finds a home.

Also, I'll check out those archetypes when I have a bit of time after work.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:11, Tue 18 Oct 2016.

Karliah Culver
 player, 55 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 18:30
Re: OOC
In reply to Luther Sorrel (msg # 220):

Never read them, no.

And yeah? How did I not konw that lol; I own the SCAG. Though, I have to say without the bonus spells the Storm Sorcerer seems like it might be kind of... eh.
Khaaven Shadowstalker
 player, 2 posts
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 18:44
Re: OOC
Speaking of SCAG, will be multiclass in this guy. Bloodhunter order of lycan and warlock undying from SCAG, maybe some ranger too.

Makes for a very interesting build. Will be an undead slayer. Ranger favored enemy undead.Bloodhunter hunt them anyway, warlock undying am almost one of them myself.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 45 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 19:05
Re: OOC
In reply to Karliah Culver (msg # 222):

I'd totally recommend that series to anyone, but given your gunslinging character concept I'm sure you'd especially enjoy them!  It's set in a fantasy version of the French revolution, with powerful elements-manipulating sorcerer nobility and upstart powder mages who use gunpowder to heighten their senses, guide their musketballs and control explosions.  It's way cool.

Storm Sorcerers are still pretty cool with all the flying and features that spit out extra lightning damage, but none of the bloodlines are nearly as powerful as Favored Soul.  They cut the extra spells from Storm since fewer spells known is what's supposed to balance out the power gained from metamagic and sorcery points.  Of course, Favored Soul still has the extra spells plus armor/weapon proficiency and an extra attack, so it's kind of out of control powerful :P
The echo of the past
 GM, 94 posts
Tue 18 Oct 2016
at 19:26
Re: OOC
Well, it is all relative. Save for nature and life, that are cleric analogues, a favored soul is barely roughly equivalent to the wizard if a little less powerful. The extra attack and proficiencies mean the Favored Soul is meant to be in melee, a less survivable place to be with their d6s for HP. The wizard can prepare the same number of known spells, but they can change these spells, their list is less constrained -with more unique spells to choose from as opposed to 10 fixed spells that can't be changed- and they don't need the slots nor the prepared spells to provide utility. The slots a Favored soul would save by fighting in melee are needed for utility, and every time they use metamagic, they loose potential castings of spells, even dramatically. The wizard on the other hand gets to have arcane recovery that is completely separate from their other abilities.

And that series doesn't seem that appealing to me, historically nobles have been wizards and witches come from the populace, if not actually from the marginated corners of the population. n_n
Khaaven Shadowstalker
 player, 3 posts
Wed 19 Oct 2016
at 01:12
Re: OOC
I don't have a character sheet for my guy in his area. Are we using 1 or just what ever we have.
Lavarian Galonodel
 player, 4 posts
Wed 19 Oct 2016
at 01:48
Re: OOC
Uh... well, the Stormborn looks really interesting. I'd have to make some pretty major changes to my backstory to make it work, but I'd love to use it.
Khaaven Shadowstalker
 player, 5 posts
 35/35 | AC 17/18 | PP 16
Thu 20 Oct 2016
at 15:26
Re: OOC
Lycan Order Blood hunter, Warlock undying patron adventurer ready to be inspected so he can start venturing with the others whenever given the green light.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 47 posts
 AC 15, HP 44/44 PP 9
Mon 24 Oct 2016
at 20:50
Re: OOC
Is our group waiting on anything before our wagon gets rolling toward Bukhern?
Lavarian Galonodel
 player, 5 posts
Mon 24 Oct 2016
at 21:22
Re: OOC
I submitted my sheet a few days ago, still waiting on approval.
Nihil
 player, 4 posts
 Zwilian
 HP=26/AC=11
Mon 24 Oct 2016
at 21:40
Re: OOC
Me too.
Khaaven Shadowstalker
 player, 6 posts
 35/35 | AC 17/18 | PP 16
Mon 24 Oct 2016
at 21:41
Re: OOC
me 3
Temp PC
 player, 1 post
Mon 24 Oct 2016
at 22:13
Re: OOC
Still working on my character.  Apologies if I'm holding anything up.
Val'Cryel
 player, 59 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Mon 24 Oct 2016
at 22:50
Re: OOC
I think ya'll are a seperate group anyway so it should be fine.
We are pending GM for what happens as i believe Mish is taking us.
The echo of the past
 GM, 98 posts
Wed 26 Oct 2016
at 04:00
Re: OOC
Ok, group 1 updated. New group will be set up soon, but for now only Lavan and Khaven are up.

Let's talk about possible scenarios for you. The idea is for you to get embroiled in the way to investigate what is happening to the world. That or to go fight a wizardlord.
Val'Cryel
 player, 61 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Wed 26 Oct 2016
at 11:36
Re: OOC
Go with investigation! Dont fall for his traps! They are Lords for a reason!!! lol
Mis'sha
 player, 73 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Wed 26 Oct 2016
at 11:51
Re: OOC
Fight a wizardlord to steal his library to save the world? And justice? And kittens?
Val'Cryel
 player, 63 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Wed 26 Oct 2016
at 12:35
Re: OOC
One of those things is not like the others. lol
Karliah Culver
 player, 58 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Wed 26 Oct 2016
at 13:23
Re: OOC
I know. What the hell does justice have to do with any of it.

We're not Batman here.
Karliah Culver
 player, 59 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Wed 26 Oct 2016
at 13:27
Re: OOC
Alright Val I'm a little confused as to what Val is doing over in the IC thread and why you/he seems convinced I might shoot him for it.
Mis'sha
 player, 74 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Wed 26 Oct 2016
at 14:57
Re: OOC
His use of magic, most like.

We dun use no folk usin' magic no we don'. Specially not folk with that sorta haircut, no sirree....
Val'Cryel
 player, 64 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Wed 26 Oct 2016
at 19:37
Re: OOC
Actually my Sneakery. xD As i was doing something prior to that normal people may have frowned on, and thus was on the roof. Didn't know if you were up there prior or had come up later. heh.
Anywho, just bein sneaky and doing sneaky roguish things. >.> Nothing to fret over. Just go with i appeared there. xD
The echo of the past
 GM, 100 posts
Thu 27 Oct 2016
at 23:04
Re: OOC
Lavarian, Khaaven, so what do you prefer? To start as a group or to receive a fire baptism?

All of the others, I'm waiting for you to be ready.
Khaaven Shadowstalker
 player, 7 posts
 35/35 | AC 17/18 | PP 16
Thu 27 Oct 2016
at 23:26
Re: OOC
I am fine either way whatever works best for you.
Val'Cryel
 player, 67 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Fri 28 Oct 2016
at 00:38
Re: OOC
Ready.
Lavarian Galonodel
 player, 9 posts
 HP: 18/18, AC: 13
 SP: 4/4, PP: 13
Fri 28 Oct 2016
at 00:48
Re: OOC
I can't think of a specific way to begin as a group, so I guess a baptism by fire it is.
Val'Cryel
 player, 68 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Fri 28 Oct 2016
at 11:26
Re: OOC
I could mayhap help with that if u want. ^.^ Just need a tidbit of background.
Speaking of which, update your Descriptions. xD
Mis'sha
 player, 79 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Mon 31 Oct 2016
at 23:36
Re: OOC
Hey Luther, we didn't all make combat murder-machines, and I for one have had enough of combat for a while as a player.
Karliah Culver
 player, 63 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 00:29
Re: OOC
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 248):

While that's a fair point, Luther is following to his IC disposition. Just because you've had enough combat doesn't mean that goes for everyone; and while you didn't make a 'combat murder-machine' that doesn't mean that he should have to make his sit on the sidelines as well. There's nothing wrong with your non-combative, PC, but there's nothing wrong with his high-combative PC either.

Now, IC I think its perfectly fair if you wanted to refuse to fight, but you shouldn't bring the issue to the OOC and attempt to get someone to undo what their character just did.

We probably should have talked about aspect-focus before the game started (combat vs. social interaction vs. exploration) but we didn't. That's a discussion we can still have, with the DM's moderation, but in my opinion it has no bearing on the current situation.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 51 posts
 AC 15, HP 39/44 PP 9
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 01:20
Re: OOC
Erm... Looking at the situation, we've got a bunch of skeletons and scarecrows galloping our way on skeletal horses.  Even if they're not specifically after our heads (which they likely are) they're going to attack living things on sight regardless.  I don't think diplomacy is likely to soothe them, we can't run away fast enough, and nobody expressed any other plans for peacefully dealing with the situation, so that leaves us to fight it out.

But hey, Luther ran off away from the wagon with weapon drawn.  If they turn out to be reasonable wizard-spawned monstrosities then you can tell them you don't know him :)
Mis'sha
 player, 80 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 08:44
Re: OOC
In reply to Karliah Culver (msg # 249):

My point is he made the decision for the group. I can also a lot of things from my character's perspective, like ditching Luther because he's a homocidal maniac, but didn't do to keep group consistency. We all have to give and take a little, and sometimes that means that you have to tolerate the homicidal maniac because he is a PC, and not initiate a fight with every oppertunity, because some players don't like non-stop combat.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 52 posts
 AC 15, HP 39/44 PP 9
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 10:51
Re: OOC
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 251):

Again, I don't see that there was much of a choice here: Mounted undead monsters are charging at us over open ground, and that means it's going to be a fight.  Our choices as I see them were to wait for them to attack us or to make preparations to be attacked, and I had Luther make preparations.  I don't see anything unreasonable in what I had him do under these circumstances.

On the OOC side, Mis, I wasn't aware that you as a player dislike or are tired of combat encounters, so it never occurred to me that preparing for a seemingly inevitable combat would be controversial.  I don't think it's fair to hold me or anyone else to an expectation that was never communicated.  I agree with Karliah that this is an issue of game style expectations more than it is with my character's choice in this situation.  If you'd like more options for ways to avoid combat then that's a discussion to have with the DM.  If you'd like for the PCs to take a subtler approach then that's also something we can discuss IC and OOC.

With all that said, I'm sensing that you dislike Luther as a character and how I play him.  Perhaps it's too much cognitive dissonance to group with a guy who turns into a psycho killer sometimes, which is perfectly reasonable.  I'd be willing to tone it down a few notches and explicitly take friendly fire off the table (for one), if that would help.  It's not my desire to ruin anyone's fun, and it ruins my fun if and when I do, so I'd rather try to do something to make things better.
Karliah Culver
 player, 64 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 12:45
Re: OOC
^ Exactly this. All very well said, Luther.
Mis'sha
 player, 81 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 14:39
Re: OOC
I most certainly have discussed the dislike for combat with the DM, well before the game started in fact. I prefer RP infinitely to dicerolling. I don't mind the occasional combat, it's D&D after all, but I am not spoiling for a fight.

Perhaps it wasn't mentioned explicitly OOC, but I think you've seen enough of my character IC to deduct that by now. Mis'sha is a noncombatant who has a crossbow for self-defense. Her mode of transport is impractical for combat and even vulnerable to it. Her interests are academic. Nothing suggests she is interested in a fight. To make matters even worse, and let me state it plainly now OOC so there's nothing under the table; During the first fight my concerns worsened. As I've communicated to the DM, there's a massive power discrepancy within the group, as some of you are optimized for combat. That means I have even less incentive to enter combat as a player. Not only is there my dislike for dicerolling and slowdown of the game, there's also the fact that each of your characters is several times as powerful as mine.

Now then, back to this discussion. I want to say clearly I don't dislike Luther or how you play him. I think it's a rather good depiction of the Bloody Nine and you portray him well (although Logen tried a little harder to avoid fights I'd say since he feared the Bloody Nine). What I'm saying is I'm adjusting my playstyle and how my character acts to accommodate you. Were Luther an NPC, Mis'sha would never have associated with him. There's a difference between my personal and my character's perceptions and how they would act and will sometimes override the character's acting with my personal ones to keep the game flowing. I kind of expect everyone to do the same.  Think on it, is it unreasonable for Mis'sha not to want to take Luther along after she saw how he acted? I don't think so. But I accommodate another PC. Same thing applies to the riders are headed for the village. They just might pass us by. And Mis'sha communicated she wants to try for that. So why aren't you showing the same courtesy I show you? You know Mis'sha wasn't in favor of bringing you along. You heard her say she doesn't want to fight. You've even seen she's not much worth in a fight. What reason will she have for keeping you around if you ignore her and place her in mortal danger? Why is it me that has to keep adjusting Mis'sha to keep you around, while you can easily do it yourself?
The echo of the past
 GM, 102 posts
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 15:06
Re: OOC
Ok this will be a quick skirmish, I promise, mostly to test how well can you mesh with Nihil. 1 scarecrow and a bunch of skeletons. not like with the giant vultures, these guys were dangerous.
Karliah Culver
 player, 65 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 17:12
Re: OOC
Okay, so you want to avoid combat because Mis'sha is not necessarily built for it and you have concerns that the rest of us outclass you in that regard. So you would rather stay to non-combat aspects, where you'll likely just outclass he rest of us?

There's dissonance there either way, the only thing that changes is which way it leans.

You might have spoken with the DM about playing a non-combative role well before the game started, but none of the rest of us knew that at all, nor did we have much information until after the start of the game. And now that the game has started, you're trying to sideline a character who was built to excel in combat.

On top of all that, there is a certain aspect that we as players have to react to the encounters the DM gives us an interpret what we are 'supposed' to do and what we *can* do. An undead inquisition squad who happens to run right into us on an empty road does seem like a situation the DM expects to enter combat.

Now, the answer here is obviously to balance the combat and non-combat scenarios so everyone will feel useful at different times. However, such a balance usually end up with an average of at least 3 fights per game day.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 53 posts
 AC 15, HP 39/44 PP 9
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 17:50
Re: OOC
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 254):

I still don't think I did anything unreasonable by having Luther prepare to attack a group of undead monsters charging at us at a full gallop.  Frankly, I'm annoyed that you insist on making me out to be some kind of inconsiderate jerk because I didn't read your mind as a player and choose to act out of character and against common sense to ensure your fun.

So, we're at an impasse.  I feel like I made a reasonable effort to meet you halfway on your unreasonable demands, but that didn't work out.  It seems that there's no way for me to play my character without you getting sore about it.  That's not fun for me or for you, so with apologies to the DM and my fellow players I'm going to bow out of this game now.  Thanks all for the good fun for the time we played together.  Please remove me from the game, DM, thanks.
The echo of the past
 GM, 103 posts
Tue 1 Nov 2016
at 18:31
Re: OOC
Wait, we don't need to be that drastic. This was suppossed to be a quick skirmish to give Nihil and Val a chance to do stuff and see how you all integrate, not a big set piece encounter like the last one. After that you would get to the location and explore, inquire and everything.
Mis'sha
 player, 82 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Wed 2 Nov 2016
at 08:32
Re: OOC
Karliah Culver:
Okay, so you want to avoid combat because Mis'sha is not necessarily built for it and you have concerns that the rest of us outclass you in that regard. So you would rather stay to non-combat aspects, where you'll likely just outclass he rest of us?

There's dissonance there either way, the only thing that changes is which way it leans.


No. As I said, I avoid dicerolling and therefore combat. That, and a Scholar doesn't have that much out-of-combat advantage. Just a lot of skills. Any spellcaster likely has more out of combat utility then I on paper. What I want is to roleplay, not drag through myriad combat railroaded combat encounters.

Karliah Culver:
You might have spoken with the DM about playing a non-combative role well before the game started, but none of the rest of us knew that at all, nor did we have much information until after the start of the game. And now that the game has started, you're trying to sideline a character who was built to excel in combat.


Is he? Yes, he's minmaxed for combat, but if he's anything like Logen Nine-Fingers, he wants to avoid combat. He wants friends, he wants to protect them, but he knows doing battle only makes matters worse for himself. Logen Nine-Fingers would have tried to avoid this fight. So why can't Luther?

Karliah Culver:
On top of all that, there is a certain aspect that we as players have to react to the encounters the DM gives us an interpret what we are 'supposed' to do and what we *can* do. An undead inquisition squad who happens to run right into us on an empty road does seem like a situation the DM expects to enter combat.


I disagree there. Nothing suggests that combat is unavoidable from the description given. It could be the group passes us by and goes to the village, as that is their objective and they are already late to the fight.

Karliah Culver:
Now, the answer here is obviously to balance the combat and non-combat scenarios so everyone will feel useful at different times. However, such a balance usually end up with an average of at least 3 fights per game day.


If you play an adventure path, maybe. That's why I avoid any official written adventures, since it's so disgustingly fabricated around combat encounters followed by simplistic problem-solving, leaving nothing to sandbox or RP. Have you never noticed how synthetic those adventures are? My own table games average about a few rolls an hour and the rest is just RP, talk, investigating, exploring and perhaps one fight at the end of it all.

Luther Sorrel:
In reply to Mis'sha (msg # 254):

I still don't think I did anything unreasonable by having Luther prepare to attack a group of undead monsters charging at us at a full gallop.  Frankly, I'm annoyed that you insist on making me out to be some kind of inconsiderate jerk because I didn't read your mind as a player and choose to act out of character and against common sense to ensure your fun.


I acted out of character and against common sense to ensure your fun. Don't be like this because we have a difference of opinion, and put words in my mouth. I'm doing my best here to work this out.

Luther Sorrel:
So, we're at an impasse.  I feel like I made a reasonable effort to meet you halfway on your unreasonable demands, but that didn't work out.  It seems that there's no way for me to play my character without you getting sore about it.  That's not fun for me or for you, so with apologies to the DM and my fellow players I'm going to bow out of this game now.  Thanks all for the good fun for the time we played together.  Please remove me from the game, DM, thanks.


Or, you know, we could talk it out.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 54 posts
 AC 15, HP 39/44 PP 9
Wed 2 Nov 2016
at 12:36
Re: OOC
Mis'sha:
I disagree there. Nothing suggests that combat is unavoidable from the description given. It could be the group passes us by and goes to the village, as that is their objective and they are already late to the fight.

I feel like this is beating a dead horse, but this scenario was always going to be a combat encounter.  It just was.  In IC terms undead have the sole objective to destroy the living and were never going to just pass by travelers on the road.  In OOC terms the DM said it was meant to be a fight to test out the new characters with the group.  So, I wish that we could agree that it was sensible to prepare for a fight here, because it WAS sensible.

I was admittedly abrupt in stating my desire to leave the game, so I want to elaborate on the reasons why I feel that this situation is irreconcilable.  This whole thing has already been more airing of dirty laundry than I'd ever wanted to do, so to spare the innocent bystanders I'm going to put this in a private line to Mis, the GM and Karliah since she was involved in these discussions previously.

(PM)[Private to Mis'sha; Karliah Culver; GM:
  1. You as a player don't like combat, playing a game system that has combat as a major part, in a dangerous setting in which combat is bound to happen with some regularity.  My character is both an ex-soldier by background and has a bloodthirsty alter ego, which means he will fight when threatened by monsters and when combat is inevitable will not sit by and wait to be hit first.  Being a person who dislikes creating unhappiness, in the future whenever I'd consider drawing my weapon I'd have to second guess myself: Is this going to upset Mis?  Has it been long enough since the last combat for her to be ok with it?  Is she going to resent that I wasn't sufficiently pacifistic and didn't do everything I could to avoid combat, no matter if combat is inevitable?  Even as this character I'm not asking for a pass to murder every NPC we approach, but just to be able to attack skeletons charging at us and not be chided for it.  This whole dynamic is not fun for me.
  2. Once a fight begins, my character's effectiveness in combat makes you unhappy because you feel that your character is ineffective by comparison.  There's no way around this discrepancy in damage output between a Barbarian and a Scholar, so there's nothing I can do to avoid this resentment.  Having my character's existence resented isn't fun for me.
  3. As a player you feel entitled to dictate to other players how they should play their characters.  You expect us to act in a way you approve of to create the game experience that is enjoyable to you regardless of what we might want for our characters, and you don't mind telling us so.  You expect us to abide by your expectations before you've even communicated those expectations to us.  I find this entitlement of yours disagreeable, to put it nicely.
  4. My part-time psychotic "combat monster" and your pacifist Scholar are fundamentally incompatible.  Let me be clear that I'll take the blame for this being a problem.  I chose to create a character with a scary and dangerous split personality, and I would not expect anyone to look past that and accept him with open arms.  What I was hoping for was to leverage this inherent conflict into some interesting RP to figure out how it could be worked around.  Two possibilities off the top of my head: Luther seems like an ok guy when not raging, so perhaps there's potential for redemption?  Second idea: Gosh the Cackler was terrifying, but without him that battle with the skeletons and vultures could've gone much worse, so maybe he's a useful weapon to have on our side?  Instead what we have is "Mis would never associate with Luther if given the choice, but since he's a PC her player will deign to have her go against character to begrudgingly tolerate him."  I mean, ok, it's hard to justify Mis associating with Luther and perhaps it's a big ask, but would it have killed you to meet me halfway?  I made an effort to make inroads by having Luther behave genially toward Mis outside of combat, and was met with nothing but cold hostility.  You made no effort toward even the barest IC justification for grouping, but you act like you did me a giant favor by having Mis barely tolerate Luther's presence while making it abundantly clear how reluctantly you did so.  I'm sorry, but I find it hard to be grateful for that.


So yeah, there are a few reasons that I don't see this working, and don't feel like it's worth trying to salvage.  I've already put too much energy into this argument, and I don't like all the negativity it's brought out of me.  For what it's worth, I'm sorry to you Mis for saying hurtful things, but I feel like I needed to express that stuff to explain where I'm coming from.  I'm sure you're a lovely person, but for whatever reason we haven't seen eye to eye in this game.  I hope all your future gaming interactions go a million times better than this one!
]

This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 15:18, Wed 02 Nov 2016.

Mis'sha
 player, 83 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Wed 2 Nov 2016
at 15:08
Re: OOC
I don't see the PM.
Luther Sorrel
 player, 55 posts
 AC 15, HP 39/44 PP 9
Wed 2 Nov 2016
at 15:20
Re: OOC
I edited maybe with correct formatting, check now...
Mis'sha
 player, 84 posts
 The curious snake girl
 32/32 hp | AC 15 | PP 15
Wed 2 Nov 2016
at 16:50
Re: OOC
I see it now.

PM

[Private to Karliah Culver; Luther Sorrel; The echo of the past:

Somehow you are making this all about me, without finding any flaw in yourself. I don't like being put on the defensive, because it makes me really irksome, but some of your attacks here are out of line. Personally, I believe I have been extremely accommodating of the other characters and their wishes. I went from 'I want to somehow sneak into the wizard-lord's library'  to 'let's assassinate the wizard-lord so I can get into his library' just so I can have an IC reason to take the cackler along and have a role for him in the party. What have you done? Seriously, what have you done to accommodate the wishes of others? What were your thoughts when you made a homicidal maniac concerning the wishes of the party? Or did you automatically assume we'd all be fine with that?

How can you blow my request to have a less combat into this epic argument? You are so entrenched in what you want, that you'd rather leave the game then give an inch, while somehow thinking this is about me. You don't want to compromise and only see conflict where we could probably work this out.


Luther Sorrel:
[*] You as a player don't like combat, playing a game system that has combat as a major part, in a dangerous setting in which combat is bound to happen with some regularity.  My character is both an ex-soldier by background and has a bloodthirsty alter ego, which means he will fight when threatened by monsters and when combat is inevitable will not sit by and wait to be hit first.  Being a person who dislikes creating unhappiness, in the future whenever I'd consider drawing my weapon I'd have to second guess myself: Is this going to upset Mis?  Has it been long enough since the last combat for her to be ok with it?  Is she going to resent that I wasn't sufficiently pacifistic and didn't do everything I could to avoid combat, no matter if combat is inevitable?  Even as this character I'm not asking for a pass to murder every NPC we approach, but just to be able to attack skeletons charging at us and not be chided for it.  This whole dynamic is not fun for me.


Misha is not a pacifist (no idea where that idea came from). I also mentioned that I recognize that combat is inherent in D&D, but I'd like to shift the focus away from it. Not abolish it. Considering the feelings of other players around the table kind of helps improve everyone's experience. In this exact case, Mis'sha asked you to not do something, and you gave did it anyway, and somehow, miraculously, when I say something about it, it's my fault.


Luther Sorrel:
[*] Once a fight begins, my character's effectiveness in combat makes you unhappy because you feel that your character is ineffective by comparison.  There's no way around this discrepancy in damage output between a Barbarian and a Scholar, so there's nothing I can do to avoid this resentment.  Having my character's existence resented isn't fun for me.


A separate discussion, but it's not just that you play a barbarian, it's that you play an optimized barbarian, causing some imbalance in combat, but I only mentioned that as I wanted to mention why I dislike combat, and that in this particular game, another reason was added for me disliking it.

Luther Sorrel:
[*] As a player you feel entitled to dictate to other players how they should play their characters.  You expect us to act in a way you approve of to create the game experience that is enjoyable to you regardless of what we might want for our characters, and you don't mind telling us so.  You expect us to abide by your expectations before you've even communicated those expectations to us.  I find this entitlement of yours disagreeable, to put it nicely.


This is the part where you seriously annoy me. I don't dictate. I ask. And you have your mouth full of me telling you how to play your character, which I never did. I'm not entitled to anything, and neither are you. I don't have to accommodate your character, but I do. But you don't do the same for me.


Luther Sorrel:
[*] My part-time psychotic "combat monster" and your pacifist Scholar are fundamentally incompatible.  Let me be clear that I'll take the blame for this being a problem.  I chose to create a character with a scary and dangerous split personality, and I would not expect anyone to look past that and accept him with open arms.  What I was hoping for was to leverage this inherent conflict into some interesting RP to figure out how it could be worked around.  Two possibilities off the top of my head: Luther seems like an ok guy when not raging, so perhaps there's potential for redemption?  Second idea: Gosh the Cackler was terrifying, but without him that battle with the skeletons and vultures could've gone much worse, so maybe he's a useful weapon to have on our side?  Instead what we have is "Mis would never associate with Luther if given the choice, but since he's a PC her player will deign to have her go against character to begrudgingly tolerate him."  I mean, ok, it's hard to justify Mis associating with Luther and perhaps it's a big ask, but would it have killed you to meet me halfway?  I made an effort to make inroads by having Luther behave genially toward Mis outside of combat, and was met with nothing but cold hostility.  You made no effort toward even the barest IC justification for grouping, but you act like you did me a giant favor by having Mis barely tolerate Luther's presence while making it abundantly clear how reluctantly you did so.  I'm sorry, but I find it hard to be grateful for that.


No, a hundred times no. I, as a player, changed Mis'sha from 'I want to infiltrate the wizard-lord's library'  to 'let's kill the wizard-lord so I can loot his library' JUST SO I CAN HAVE THE CACKLER ALONG. And yes, sorry for my character not wanting to shake hands. Yours were caked in gore at the time. She let him into her house though, ain't that nice? But let's examine your argument. Both options you give for reasons to take you along require us to accommodate you and somehow, they involve thinking you are a an OK guy to have around after just witnessing your homicidal streak as your very first introduction. Again, you want us to change your opinion of you, without changing yourself. Ahem. Sorry, but no one in their right mind will think Luther is a swell guy after that intro. Ergo, is it too much to ask for Luther to be self-aware of what kind of person he is and try to fall in line with the wishes of the ones he wants to travel with?

Luther Sorrel:
So yeah, there are a few reasons that I don't see this working, and don't feel like it's worth trying to salvage.  I've already put too much energy into this argument, and I don't like all the negativity it's brought out of me.  For what it's worth, I'm sorry to you Mis for saying hurtful things, but I feel like I needed to express that stuff to explain where I'm coming from.  I'm sure you're a lovely person, but for whatever reason we haven't seen eye to eye in this game.  I hope all your future gaming interactions go a million times better than this one!


So stop arguing and focusing on the negative and work towards a solution and world peace instead.
]
Tigress
 player, 59 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 15/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Thu 3 Nov 2016
at 01:20
Re: OOC
Omg, what happened to the thread?! O.O

You guys see it, right?!
Lavarian Galonodel
 player, 10 posts
 HP: 18/18, AC: 13
 SP: 4/4, PP: 13
Thu 3 Nov 2016
at 01:26
Re: OOC
Welp, this is broken, now.
Val'Cryel
 player, 69 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Thu 3 Nov 2016
at 01:31
Re: OOC
Ok, good, i wasn't the only one. I believe the debate (Not argument) has broken the literal 4th walls. xD
Karliah Culver
 player, 66 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Thu 3 Nov 2016
at 01:32
Re: OOC
Not sure what you guys are talking about, but that might be because I actually see the private text. Don't worry though, they have since moved to a private thread.
Tigress
 player, 60 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 15/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Thu 3 Nov 2016
at 01:33
Re: OOC
Guys, stoppit, you're going to create a break in the dimensions!!

Karliah, do you not see?! The text goes on past the thread!!
Nihil
 player, 15 posts
 Zwilian
 HP=26/AC=11
Thu 3 Nov 2016
at 01:35
Re: OOC
Start a new OOC thread? Or look for open tags in past posts?
Val'Cryel
 player, 70 posts
 The Quick Shadow.
 HP 26/26 | AC 19 | PP 15
Thu 3 Nov 2016
at 02:05
Re: OOC
It seems only those of us not in the original PM can see the tear in reality. A new adventure awaits!
Tigress
 player, 61 posts
 Wood Elf Blood Hunter/ 4
 HP: 15/32 AC: 16 PP: 13
Thu 3 Nov 2016
at 02:19
Re: OOC
Do we need to roll initiative or new characters? lolz.
Karliah Culver
 player, 67 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Thu 3 Nov 2016
at 05:24
Re: OOC
My guess is that the DM needs to delete those comments with the excessive PM lines. Probably something with quotes inside PM lines that maybe caused some sort of glitch in the code? Not sure.
The echo of the past
 GM, 104 posts
Tue 8 Nov 2016
at 22:24
Re: OOC
Ok, sorry. I don't really have time for this. I know I'm probably being unfair, but there is only one way I can find to salvage the game. Nothing personal, I want everybody to be happy, but I guess it is the needs of the many, or have no game...


If you are still around and want to keep going, post inside the thread. Roll initiative, all of you.
Karliah Culver
 player, 68 posts
 Human Gunslinger | PP: 14
 HP: 29/32 | AC: 17
Tue 8 Nov 2016
at 23:09
Re: OOC
DM, there might be an issue with this OOC threa for some of the others. I'm not part of it but from what I understand the thread looks broken when Val, Tigress, Nihil, and perhaps others look at it.

A random shot in the dark, you might need to delete the posts from Luther and Mis'sha that included excessive private lines.