Or be a part of the Sicarian insertion team. That would make for some interesting stories later....

Quick question: the ordinary result for the RF I inflicted (5 E to the arm) would leave my target Stunned.  I didn't see a mention of it in the OOC, though, so I'm curious if it does in fact have that status condition.  Could probably use that +20 to hit :D

Ah yes...I was so focused on showing yours was stunned [with the scream of pain] and the other was damaged below half wounds with one shot [and a scream of pain] that I omitted that fact. Yes, it is stunned. I would have applied the penalties on the next post but you're right, go ahead and add the bonuses for it in your own writeup as well.

In reply to GSN 1805141731 (msg # 897):

Just double checked in the DW books, Raveners are Enormous size, so yeah +20 to hit :D

Yeah a sergeant would be nice and useful for those rounds where Jansen isn't with us or busy with other things (like a carnifex in his face)

Oof, it's going to be tough deciding whether to shoot the stunned one or the ones actually trying to hit us this round.  Sucks that the bolter got fragged.

I should get me a sniper rifle for situations like this.Edit: nevermind, I've gots me a hilarious solution.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:27, Mon 13 Aug 2018.

...you gonna transform into a Reddit troll and make it rage-quit the battle?

How did you know about my super-seekrit stash of Spook?

AC, did you decide on what happens when I get more hits with my Semi-Auto shots than bullets I fired? It came up once before but I don't recall you making a clear ruling on it.

For a long time I have held to the belief of ‘no more hits than rounds’ but after spending some time watching videos of weapons fire at various targets, I think the possibility of through-and-through hits, ricochets, and crazy deflections should be enough to allow for more damage rolls than actual bullets fired. Makes sense and falls in line with realistic physics.

In the obligatory counter-post, it does make single-shot weapons a little bit less powerful by comparison.  The RoFs, clip sizes, and damage values for all weapons were "carefully" chosen and are meant to be balanced internally, and I have the notion (with no actual evidence, naturally) that they're balanced around maximum hits = RoF.

I would be mollified if we were allowed to, say, swap RFs on single-shot for through-and-through, though.  Just sayin' :P

It's one thing for in real life where I was skeet shooting and the round where birdies are released from both sides at the same time and by pure chance they both cross my field of sight at the right moment for me to fire one shot and shatter both birdies making the officials blink and try to decide how to call it officially.

It's another to say the guy pulled the trigger and fired a short full auto bust (Rof S/2/3) and it becomes killing ten men with only three rounds clearing the barrel.

It's also a very unwelcome thought that when we do run across chaos cultists and have the unfortunate luck of running across a Chaos Marine their bolter will spit out two rounds and hit everyone in the squad.  What is good for the goose is good for the gander.  I'm beyond happy with RoF being max hits.

This should clear things up.

Of Note:

If the ranged attack fails, or if the Semi-Auto Burst or Full, Auto Burst Actions fail to, achieve the maximum potential hits, the remaining missed hits—up to the maximum potential hit for the rate of fire used in the attack—are still fired, but miss their target.

This suggests that max hits should be based on RoF but it's written terribly.

I also wouldn't worry about the enemies benefiting from extra hits beyond RoF because the only PC death we've had have been the Twins and I nearly Throne-damned begged for it.

I wasn’t begging for it when I had to burn my only FP to stay alive as Zilch.

And the reason why you don’t see it as a problem is because few things we’ve fought as Tyranids have multi-fire ranged weapons or have Swift/lightning attack.  They kill by mass which has taken tolls or flat out killed,  Just cause it was an NPC at the time it was a PC built character set that got shredded and AC has been nice in eliminating them more often than not before those of us that are constant players.  It would be counterintuitive to kill all the active PCs off before the ghosting/dropped PCs that are there too.

Soon as we’re not fighting Zerg everyone of our other campaign adversaries will be pelting us with ranged death.

This is Only War. Don't get attached to your characters.

Also, you're the last person to post in the combat. Let's stow the bickering and get through the fight.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:35, Tue 14 Aug 2018.

Not to belabor the discussion much longer, but thinking back on it I believe AC proposed a solution to the RoF question which sounded satisfactory to me: the net hits remains at RoF, but that extra 1 "hit" from RAW acts as a buffer against dodges and the like.  A bit complicated yes, but since AC keeps (excellent) track of the books at the end of the day it wouldn't be that much extra work for us players.

Yeah I didn’t go back and look at the actual discussion we had I just put my thoughts on it. I have been opposed to more hits than bullets my whole life but at the risk of saying idk I don’t mind if high direction your group takes this. As Zilch pointed out what you have the enemy does as well.

Quick question, though I think I know the answer, is Jack now engaged in melee?

Second quick question, can we only spend XP at base camp? Not sure about this but I assume yes.

Jack is not currently engaged in melee [it has reach on the tail so you aren't engaged by 'it' yet], but if he doesn't make the parry/dodge, he will be prone on the ground while the vehicle drives away for one round, and will likely be pounced upon before his turn comes up.

No, spending xp rarely happens in the field...though if you've got some to spare and can give me a reason why the skill or talent is just surfacing now, I'd entertain the idea of you gaining it 'in the field'.

frickin'-- ++redacted by order of the Adeptus Mechanicus++ the one time I hit the +60 cap and of course I roll two overheats

I should probably start treating the plasma as a 'nade and chuck it at the ravener.  Pretty sure if I drop it here I'll end up fragging whatever HP the Salamander has left, even with a Pen 0 hit....
This message was last edited by the player at 06:55, Thu 16 Aug 2018.

Wait there's a cap on bonuses? What page by the by?