Well there is the downside of classifying as undead fornthe purposes of spell effects, class features and weapon powers that would activate with undead so while Lilith may have a few powerful things she is still weak against these type of things.

I like that. Let's run with that one. ;)

It's weird that it's not vulnerable to radiant damage.

Regenerate 3 hp each turn is balanced? No vulnerability to radiant damage and less of a disadvantage in direct sunlight than a drow? This feels really OP, to say the least.

It seems to me that the vampire will want to operate as much at night as possible, and as the only (?) character without darkvision I'll want to do the opposite. How will we resolve that?
This message was last edited by the player at 08:15, Sun 10 Sept 2017.

Wait it doesn't take damage in sunlight?

That's.... ha.

Here is an interesting one!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unear...ink_blood_be_spooky/

Intrestingly, healing magic apparently works just fine on this vampire. And it can't be killed, rising at 1 hp every time it goes down. Why do we need the other characters?

In reply to Beric Overton (msg # 50):

kill it with radiant fire!

Almost done on my end. Minor tweaks, did anyone else bother to get healing potions?

Yes, but those potions are strictly personal, I expect others to take their own potions.

I did not realize Vampires didn't take damage from sunlight.

That and 3 hp a round are way too OP.

Yeah, sunlight should at the very least suppress supernatural abilities, like in Dracula.

Why don't we just try it and see how it works?
Okay, the Vampiress is strong, but the DM has ways to make her disadvantages become a nuisance to her, to balance it.

It doesn't take much experimentation to see that a character that regenerates 3 HP per turn and can't be killed except by exceptional means is unbalanced. I'm really not after a game of a vampire and her expendable henchmen so I think I'll pass on this game. See you all around.

It's the Superman problem.

It's hard to write a story about Superman, because he's invulnerable and unbeatable.  So in order for there to be any threat, you have to come up with ways to take away his powers.  You have to make him NOT Superman.  Yes the DM could spend all their energy making sure that each and every encounter is crafted in such a way that it nullifies the Vampire's powers, but then what's the point in having a Vampire in the first place?  Why have this massive source of imbalance in the game at all.

3/hp a turn is a HUGE advantage for a level 3 campaign, and there aren't any weaknesses built into that.  There is no "damage from fire or radiant is doubled, and cannot be regenerated in this manner."  It's just there, making the player essentially unkillable while the rest of us mere mortals bleed and sweat and die around them.

Moral of the story. Vampires rule.

We start as level 1 right?

In reply to Balasar (msg # 60):

3

In reply to Makaria Thriceburned (msg # 61):

Thanks Makaria's player!

This is exactly why I never liked Superman. The people who created him gave him way too many powers, so they had to bend over backwards to create any semblance of tension.

When you use plot contrivance to make your character win, it's favoritism. When you have to resort to plot contrivance to make your character lose, or even have a remote chance of losing, it means you've made them too powerful.

In reply to Markus Oncebright (msg # 59):

Ha, yes.

Speaking of the dangers of home brew, what blackguard template are you using?

Standard paladin for the most part. Oath from wizards unearthed arcana online.

Oh thank god!

Here is what it says at the top of the wiki on the first link when you google "DnD 5e Blackguard."



https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Blackguard_(5e_Class)

Oath of Treachery, on the other hand, both looks fun as hell and isn't game breaking.

Oh boy I go away for a day and I find that letting letting a vampire PC in has caused a bit more friction than I had intended.

Okay so to cover some points here as mentioned I am in the process of tweaking it to be both more fair and true to Lore.

1. The regen is offset by the fact that; as stated by a couple of you, Lilith cannot regain Hitpoints from Positive Energy based healing spells (or rather anything that isn't Inflict Wounds) and the regen ceases to function when in contact with direct sunlight.

2. Vampires in the MM are also not vulnerable to Radiant damage so giving her that as a weaknesses when a base Vampire doesn't have it would be unfair, however contact with direct sunlight does have an effect and as such I will be putting that in, the damage is pretty high and could still quite easily kill her at this level if she spends consecutive rounds in direct sunlight.