OOC: Redeux.   Posted by GM.Group: 0
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 5 Sep 2021
at 11:05
Re: OOC: Redeux
I'm fine with you playing a wizard again, if you like, Wrenn.

I've come up with a concept for a somewhat unusual (and a little edgy) character.  More for story than min-maxing, the best fit for them would be:

Race:
Changeling/Kalashtar


They wouldn't actually be either of these, but the concept best fits with the themes presented by their racial rules.  At the moment I am leaning more towards Kalashtar.

Class:
Twilight Domain Cleric / Shadow Magic Sorcerer / Hex-Blade Warlock / The Undying Warlock


The Twilight Domain Cleric is the least appropriate, but I thought I'd offer it up in case we need a healer of some sort and I am interested in playing one.  I've played grave domain clerics before so I'd rather not do that and though death domain would also fit, it is considered a 'villainous' option and (imo at least) is a little overpowered.

Point is, with this character, I am happy to customise them to fit whatever we need.  Though they'd make for a weak 'tank'.

This message was last edited by the player at 11:11, Sun 05 Sept 2021.

Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 5 Sep 2021
at 14:27
Re: OOC: Redeux
Undying Warlock is so incredibly bad, it's not even funny. Unless you're in an undead-heavy campaign, you might as well not have a subclass at all. I've been playing one now for 4 years in a PotA game, which is undead-lite, and I regret taking that subclass every time I think about it.
Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 5 Sep 2021
at 16:56
Re: OOC: Redeux
Here are all of the things that I'm considering, all of which I've just not had a chance to play yet, in no order at all.

Echo Knight Fighter
Fathomless Warlock
Stars Druid
Shephard Druid
Bladesinger Wizard
Scribes Wizard
Swarmkeeper Ranger

This message was last edited by the player at 15:14, Mon 06 Sept 2021.

Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 5 Sep 2021
at 17:51
Re: OOC: Redeux
Alright then, that's a no to undying warlock.  Thanks :)
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Sun 5 Sep 2021
at 19:34
Re: OOC: Redeux
Well, Iíll leave the final choices to yíall. Remember that the races donít have the same background as listed in the books, so you can come up with whatever. Kharash did it for dragonborn and made them a nomadic tribe people.
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 6 Sep 2021
at 15:15
Re: OOC: Redeux
What are you thinking about playing, Eri?
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Tue 7 Sep 2021
at 04:39
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While you mull on character stuff, discuss if you want to start knowing each other or not. Youíll be starting in Sirai no matter what. Itís the closest launch point to Amur.
Wrenn Muernig
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Tue 7 Sep 2021
at 05:45
Re: OOC: Redeux
Having an established relationship certainly smooths out the introduction. Working an escort job for our starting gold can work for any race/class/backstory combination.

For a lot of other things, I'd need to nail down which character I'm going to play before I would know the best way to tie them to another.
Eri Sato
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Wed 8 Sep 2021
at 22:06
Re: OOC: Redeux
I think I'm going to play a barbarian! I've never done it before so I'm quite excited. And I'm all for knowing each other if that makes it easier. Probably human. I'm thinking I'll make her a bodyguard for hire, on temporary terms. She moves from job to job, preferring the nomadic lifestyle.
Wrenn Muernig
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Wed 8 Sep 2021
at 23:07
Re: OOC: Redeux
Gris, have you narrowed down your decision at all?
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 8 Sep 2021
at 23:23
Re: OOC: Redeux
Uh, kind of the opposite actually...as I'm reconsidering my original character concept now.

Sorry >.>

If you have a preference, feel free to pick whatever you like and I'll work around you. :)

Glad at least one of us is decisive, Eri!
Wrenn Muernig
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Thu 9 Sep 2021
at 05:43
Re: OOC: Redeux
I'm currently leaning toward the Stars Druid. Twilight Cleric is amazing, so I considered doing that if you're going to remake Gris and Eri is going for a Barbarian (temp hp every round on a raging barbarian is insane), but I'm leaning more toward the druid at the moment.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 9 Sep 2021
at 10:17
Re: OOC: Redeux
Tbh, stars druid looks really good.

I think I will try to dual class, if that's okay.  I'll divide levels between Shadow Sorcerer and Hexblade Warlock.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 9 Sep 2021
at 12:25
Re: OOC: Redeux
GM, did Amur have its own language and, if so, would it be too meta to pick it as one of the languages our characters know?
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Thu 9 Sep 2021
at 14:00
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Quick rules point: Iím going to say no to multiclassing.

As for a language, it would depend on your background. An archeologist that is studying Amur would likely know the language but a regular sailor would not.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 9 Sep 2021
at 15:12
Re: OOC: Redeux
Okay, thank you.

I was thinking about giving my character the cloistered scholar background from the sword coast adventurer's guide, but whether or not he specifically studied the Amur is debatable.  I wanted him to hail from the Dunnothi port city of Sirai, so Amur's fate could feasibly be of academic interest to him.  A cautionary tale maybe?

If there's no dual classing, I guess I'll go Shadow Sorcerer.  I've only played 1 Sorcerer before and that was a long time ago. :)

Edit - I'm also thinking variant human, if that's allowed.  Aiming to pick up the skilled feat, which would mean he starts with 4 languages (2 human, 2 cloistered scholar) and 8 skills/tools (2 sorcerer, 1 human, 2 background, 3 skilled)

This message was last edited by the player at 15:15, Thu 09 Sept 2021.

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Thu 9 Sep 2021
at 15:27
Re: OOC: Redeux
If you are going to be from one of the many libraries of Sirai, there should be no issue having a cursory knowledge of Amur. It would be similar to a layman's knowledge today of the Roman Empire. The main information is there but the details are fuzzy.

Amur spoke a dialect of Giant as their main language, though the melting pot effect means that multiple different languages were common in the city. Goblin might come in as a close second due the the prevalence of hobgoblin guards and watchmen.

No issue with variant human or the feat choice.
Wrenn Muernig
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Thu 9 Sep 2021
at 23:43
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Which languages would be associated with the study of astrology?
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Fri 10 Sep 2021
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Celestial is the language of the gods and heavens.
Wrenn Muernig
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Fri 10 Sep 2021
at 03:16
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What are we doing for ability scores?
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Fri 10 Sep 2021
at 04:08
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Iíll let you choose from 4d6(high 3), standard array, or (my personal favorite) the 24d6 dice pool.


Dice pool (24d6)
Assign as many dice as you want to an ability and roll for your score. Highest you can get is still 20 but you can ensure higher scores with more dice. Obviously you have to roll at least one dice. Abilities with only 1d6 have +3 added to the score. Word of warning, there are no do-overs with this method.

This message was last edited by the GM at 04:08, Fri 10 Sept 2021.

Wrenn Muernig
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Fri 10 Sep 2021
at 04:15
Re: OOC: Redeux
Pool of 24 sounds...interesting.
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Fri 10 Sep 2021
at 04:32
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My table game, before Covid, had a guy use it and his character got 20 and 18 for Strength and Constitution but was a 7 and 9 in Wisdom and Charisma. He basically roleplayed it like MCU Drax.
Wrenn Muernig
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Fri 10 Sep 2021
at 05:07
Re: OOC: Redeux
Sure, let's give it a shot.

00:07, Today: Wrenn Muernig rolled 7,14,17,13,14,7 using 3d6,4d6,5d6,4d6,5d6,3d6.  Ability Scores.

I've done more with less.

This message was last edited by the player at 05:09, Fri 10 Sept 2021.

Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 10 Sep 2021
at 10:19
Re: OOC: Redeux
I guess I'll try 24 dice too :)

2d6, 4d6, 4d6, 5d6, 4d6, 5d6

11:17, Today: Griswold Ortmann rolled 7,18,15,16,16,15 using 2d6,4d6,4d6,5d6,4d6,5d6.  Ability Scores (Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, Cha).

Well, okay.  With Variant Human that gets me:

7,18,16,16,16,16

Did I do this right?  I think I did roll above average, but only by 3.  That's pretty crazy Oo

Though, I guess 24 dice works out as 4 dice per stat, which is straight up better than 4 dice keep highest 3.

EDIT:
Also rolled for starting gold:

12:17, Today: Griswold Ortmann rolled 4 using 3d4.  Starting Gold (roll multiplied by 10, +10 gold from background).

Total of 50gp.

This message was last edited by the player at 11:17, Fri 10 Sept 2021.