OOC: A tavern outside the universe.   Posted by GM.Group: 0
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
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An otherworldly bar where the mysterious forces behind the shaping of the world gather. Salut!
Eli Reiner
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 08:50
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Guess I'll go ahead and be the first to say hey.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 10:05
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Hi!  This will be my first game done in this way, but hope to have fun discovering Arathia with everyone.
Kharash
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 12:31
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Hey everyone!
Yeah, for me it's also the first game where you have so much input as a player. I like it, and I'm excited to discover this world you all.
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
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Thank you for the kind words! Also, if you didn't know, I added a map!
Sigi Stonebrow
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 14:16
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Greetings everyone,

I'm really excited to get started. This should be a blast.
Kharash
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 14:43
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Looking good. Is that a volcano next to Last Haven?
Eli Reiner
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 15:53
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Before I post things about my character, how much do we all want to know OOC about each other that our characters wouldn't already know?

Since we're helping shape the world with our backstories, I imagine this is one of those times where full disclosure is preferred so that we can build off of one another so long as we can keep player knowledge and character knowledge properly separated.

Thoughts?
Kharash
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 15:59
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I was wondering about that as well. Perhaps only show world information that is more commonly known?
The GM can then slowly reveal the 'unknown information' throughout the story. I think it's easier for one person to 'pretend' not knowing, than six. Plus, discovery is fun.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 17:45
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Certain truths can be drawn from Backgrounds.  For example, someone might say:
We should got to Schwarzheim.  Always things to do there.

Then someone else might add:
Yeah richest town this side of the Krieg.  Always people willing to pay a king's price for adventurers with the right skills.

Only to be told OOC:
Uh actually its in my background that its the poorest city in the world, a dumping ground for homeless and orphans and that everyone knows it.

That's just an extreme example to illustrate the point.  I don't think we can conjure up (at least major) things without input...can we?

But I understand why people would like to keep their stories to themselves.  Especially if you have dark secrets or whatever.  So as long as we remember to elaborate in our posts or add OOC comments for explanation, I think it should be fine too keep stories hidden.

(I have no qualms that I have already shared mine, if no one else wants to share theirs).
Fariel Kriegborn
 Player, 1 post
 Silver Elf
Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 17:49
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Speaking of backgrounds, I have a question for our fair DM

Fariel is a member of the Shadow-kin, a sort of inherited position of the Silver Elves who live within Sigheim (long story), sort of like urban scouts/city rangers/spies for the clan.

I don't think any existing background packages really do this justice, so I was wondering if I had permission to use the Players Handbook rules for creating a custom background?
Eli Reiner
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 17:51
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I asked the GM the same thing and got the green light.
Fariel Kriegborn
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 Silver Elf
Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 17:54
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awesome!

Also, are there any changes to classes that we should know about, to reflect the setting?
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
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In reply to Griswold Ortmann (msg # 10):

I've mapped out the bigger places in the world but I'm still filling out the details. Just so long as you don't spontaneously add a world altering background event or add a town that rivals a major city, you should be fine. I'll try my best to give you as much detail as possible on places that I describe to you.

As for backgrounds, they have already been approved for customization. Just keep it within reason and we shouldn't have a problem.
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
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I'm still working on that, but it shouldn't affect the proposed classes thus far.
Fariel Kriegborn
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 Silver Elf
Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 19:14
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Here's what I'm thinking for a background

for context, the Kal-Helas are a clan of Silver-elves that swore fealty to Krieghold, and live primarily in Sigheim.


Background: Shadow-kin
You are one of the shadow-kin, the eyes and ears of the Kal-Helas. Like the rangers of the more traditional clans of Silver elves, you act as a scout and a trailblazer for your people. Unlike your predecessors, however, you map, defend, and chart the urban landscape, keeping your eyes and ears out for trouble and any...useful information.

DETAILS:
-gain proficiency in Investigate and Persuasion
-Gain Disguise Kit and harp proficiency
- gain a signet ring with the Kal-Helas crest on it, a non-descript cloak, a disguise kit, and a cheap dagger.
Background Feature: Eyes Everywhere: The Kal-Helas, despite living almost exsclusively in Sigheim, have informants in a few other cities in the empire. by displaying your signet ring and asking around, you can gain access to the information network's used by the Shadowkin whenever you are in a Krieghold city.

This message was last edited by the player at 01:17, Fri 23 Dec 2016.

Brother Sul
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Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 19:32
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Hey folks, glad to be on board.
Kharash
 Player, 6 posts
 Dragonborn
Thu 22 Dec 2016
at 21:52
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In reply to Fariel Kriegborn (msg # 16):

Sounds good. Do note that most background offer 2 tool/kit/instrument proficiencies or languages. So you'd have one more.
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Fri 23 Dec 2016
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I'll look at character progress tonight. How is everybody coming along?
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Fri 23 Dec 2016
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I have decided that, in the spirit of Christmas, I should come bearing gifts. You may choose one of the following.

-Have one of your weapons silvered
-Obtain a riding horse with saddle and saddlebags
-Garner 50gp, cash money

As another idea, I think I will have a contest at regular intervals and the winner will get a prize of some sort. So, the first contest is a writing exercise:

Prompt: What is the origin of the Krieghold motto "I was born without claws, without fangs, without scales; so I forged them in fire and crafted them of steel"?
Griswold Ortmann
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 Knight Errant
Fri 23 Dec 2016
at 18:18
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Well, thank you kindly!

I'm a little torn between all three options.  The horse makes most sense for Griswold's background, but I really don't like leaving animals behind when entering dungeons.  To face who knows what.  50gp would be great.  I could purchase a lute straight off then.  Otherwise, the silvered weapon does suit his flashy show-off personality.

Whatever, when in doubt, default to what makes the most rp sense.  The horse it is!


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Prompt: What is the origin of the Krieghold motto "I was born without claws, without fangs, without scales; so I forged them in fire and crafted them of steel"?


Knights and dragonslaying go hand in hand:

Towering beautiful and splendid, a kingly knight trots out of the morning mist.  His fiercely loyal warhorse whinnying with pride.  Their embellished plate, crafted by the land's best smiths, shimmering in the early light.  He carries the symbol of his Order, embellished upon a shield of the toughest steel, whilst little flags flutter festively from the tip of an upright lance.

Only it is not mist that covers the ground.  Not the spring's dawn reflected in his visor. The clouds are smoke.  The light, fire.  He's ridden far to find their source.  Left his  home amidst tearful cheers of hope and fear.  Travelled across plain and river.  Through forest and valley.  Over hill and mountain.  And today he has it.  Today the hunter finally becomes the hunted.

With a kick the trusty mount lurches forward.  Spurred into action.  It's mighty hooves, driven by huge sinewy muscles, hammer the ground relentlessly.  Thunderously.

The charge is swift and true.  The Knight's lance lowered, tip perfectly stable.  And out of the ugly black fog  Two serpent-like red eyes, each the size of a man's head, open.  Man and beast and monster crash together like waves upon a cliff.  Flames, burning with the fury of a hundred fireballs, melt steel to flesh, flesh to bone.  Acrid smoke, thicker than water, tears throat.  Ravages lungs.  Scours eyes.  And somehow, amongst this horrendous conflagration, a silvered tip hits home.

A deafening screeching roar, of fury hate and pain sends birds scattering from their treetop homes a hundred miles away.  And then...nothing.  All is still.  All is silent.  Eventually the acrid charcoal cloud dissipates.  Three bodies emerge: one a man, charred beyond recognition; the second, a mutilated beast, faithful to the end; and the last, their quarry, scaled and humongous, pierced to the hilt by a mortal weapon.


Whether true or not, likely highly romanticised, I imagine there being quite a few tales in Krieghold Knights of yore killing dragons.  This supposedly recounting the tale of the first a man was able to kill a dragon.  One that had been terrorising them for hundreds of years.


Sorry if its bad and there's bound to be numerous mistakes.  I don't consider myself a particularly good author, But hopefully its not too awful.
Fariel Kriegborn
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 Silver Elf
Fri 23 Dec 2016
at 18:27
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I sent my to you via PM, DM. is that ok?
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Fri 23 Dec 2016
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That's fine. If it wins the contest, I'll post it.
Eli Reiner
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Fri 23 Dec 2016
at 19:20
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You should buy a lute, Griswold. I was going to give Eli a musical instrument and they could do duets! Haha
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Sat 24 Dec 2016
at 18:04
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First post of IC is created and waiting. Let me know if you need any help with your characters. I'm hoping we can have them all crunched out and ready by the new year and get started.
Fariel Kriegborn
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Sat 24 Dec 2016
at 19:23
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Is the post up and I just can't see it? Or do you mean waiting in the sense of waiting to be posted?

Either way is cool of course I just wanted to make sure RPOL was not betraying me in some way haha
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Sat 24 Dec 2016
at 19:25
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It is waiting, your just not in the right group yet :)
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 25 Dec 2016
at 00:29
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Merry Christmas ^^
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Tue 27 Dec 2016
at 06:17
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I hope everyone had a very merry Christmas, if you celebrated it, and a very happy holidays in any case.

How is everyone coming on thier characters? I'm going to have to start reviewing them soon. If there is a question I haven't answered, let me know. It might have gotten lost in the holiday shuffle.
Eli Reiner
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Tue 27 Dec 2016
at 06:43
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I've just got to edit my character sheet to include a couple small purchases with my Christmas bonus gold. Other than that, I'm ready to roll.
Kharash
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 Dragonborn
Tue 27 Dec 2016
at 14:37
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Happy holidays everyone!
I also just have to add he last details to the sheet, but it's mostly done.
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Wed 28 Dec 2016
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Thread is up for initial character posts.

Also, I updated the common knowledge thread to include Kriegian, the language of the gentry and military of Krieghold.
Eli Reiner
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Fri 30 Dec 2016
at 21:21
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Hope everyone is doing well.
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Sun 1 Jan 2017
at 10:47
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Happy New Year everyone!
Kharash
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Sun 1 Jan 2017
at 12:13
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Happy new year!
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 1 Jan 2017
at 12:46
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Idd - welcome to 2017!
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Sun 1 Jan 2017
at 13:02
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I hope everyone had a good time. I will be looking for final submissions for characters today. Please have them in so that we can get the ball rolling. I don't want this game to stall waiting for it to start.
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Mon 2 Jan 2017
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I will be making the first post for everyone IC in a few hours. All final submission are due 8am PST. Most of you have done well in getting those to me. If you do not have your sheet locked out yet and have finished, let me know and I will lock it. You will then be good to go. Those that do not will get a warning, followed by in-game penalties for continued tardiness. If a week has gone by from then and I do not have a final sheet from you, you will be ejected from the game.

I understand this might seem extreme, but I need solid participation from everyone for this game to work. Wallflowers need not apply, so to speak. I will also post formalized rules for this game, expanding upon the provisions I asked for in the RTJ.
Fariel Kriegborn
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Tue 3 Jan 2017
at 01:02
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I should be ready to roll, GM!
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 3 Jan 2017
at 18:58
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Er...I re-read the post I made earlier.  It came across as somewhat sinister when it wasn't meant to be!  I have amended it slightly to (hopefully) make it a bit more obvious that Griswold was helping the man rather than mugging him!
Eli Reiner
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Thu 5 Jan 2017
at 21:50
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I don't have spells or rechargeable abilities just yet, but I figured I would use that space to keep track of items/equipment with limited uses since I can't actively edit them on my character sheet.

Note: That is not a comprehensive list of all he carries. It is only for the purposes of keeping track of things that can't be reused indefinitely.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 5 Jan 2017
at 23:03
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That seems smart.  So I'll go ahead and also update for my post for torches, rations and bolts.
Eli Reiner
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Fri 6 Jan 2017
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Griswold Ortmann:
That seems smart.  So I'll go ahead and also update for my post for torches, rations and bolts.


Truthfully, I think that I just felt left out with no spells or abilities to post there.
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Fri 6 Jan 2017
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Update coming in the next 24hrs
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Sun 8 Jan 2017
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If anybody was curious about what an ogre looks like, just refer to Edward the Ogre from Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters.
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Thu 12 Jan 2017
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Did I frighten people off?
Eli Reiner
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Thu 12 Jan 2017
at 07:46
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GM:
Did I frighten people off?


Not frightened off. Just hard-pressed to find time to sit down and post thus week. Sorry about that.
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Fri 13 Jan 2017
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No worries. I just want to make sure no one has any hold ups with the situation.
Sigi Stonebrow
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Fri 13 Jan 2017
at 15:38
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I'll try and get a post up today.
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Sat 14 Jan 2017
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If anybody wants a clarification or to make a roll before I post, now would be a good time.
Brother Sul
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Sat 14 Jan 2017
at 14:40
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Just a calirification: At their current location (within the inn) Brother Sul and Fariel do not see nor hear what's going on in the carnival right?
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Sat 14 Jan 2017
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That is correct. The carnival is slightly outside of town and away from too many buildings.
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Sun 15 Jan 2017
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Sorry guys, work keeping me from posting tonight. Update for sure tomorrow.
Fariel Kriegborn
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 Silver Elf
Mon 16 Jan 2017
at 02:06
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In reply to GM (msg # 53):

sorry for the delay, my internet connection has been less than great as of late
Eli Reiner
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Tue 17 Jan 2017
at 15:50
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I'll have a post up sometime tonight.
Eli Reiner
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Wed 18 Jan 2017
at 08:00
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The dice roller was kind to me on that one. *phew*

And now we wait.

This will either turn out well-ish or Griswold and I will be making new characters shortly. Haha
Sigi Stonebrow
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Sun 22 Jan 2017
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Flying home from vacation. I'll have a post up today or early tomorrow.
Kharash
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Sun 22 Jan 2017
at 21:24
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Sul, the order you belong to, is it well known?
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Sun 22 Jan 2017
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The group is meeting each other! Yay!
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Tue 24 Jan 2017
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Updates coming tomorrow.
Eli Reiner
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Tue 24 Jan 2017
at 06:09
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GM:
Updates coming tomorrow.


OK. I don't really have anything constructive to add until we follow the Dragoon into his tent.
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Tue 24 Jan 2017
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Post is up and ready.

Also, It has been a month and time to declare the winner of the writing contest!

Kharash!

It was hard to decide a winner, so everyone will get an inspiration for the great stories.

Kharash, you may have one of the following:

-A Potion of Greater Healing
-Gem of Brightness(10 charges left)
-75 gp cash money



Next prompt will come at the end of the month.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 24 Jan 2017
at 20:10
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Congratulations :)

This message was last edited by the player at 20:11, Tue 24 Jan 2017.

Kharash
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Tue 24 Jan 2017
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Thanks! :)
I'll take the gem.
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Sat 28 Jan 2017
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Okay, some sad news. It seems RL has stolen Sigi from us. I have two options:

1. Replace her with another player

or

2. NPC her until she is able to come back or make her a permanent NPC if not
Eli Reiner
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Sat 28 Jan 2017
at 19:29
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I don't know the circumstances of Sigi leaving so I don't know the likelihood of return.

That being said, it's still early enough to write Sigi out and replace with another character.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sat 28 Jan 2017
at 20:35
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Its up to you, but it would be nice if she could return later.  If she wanted to, of course.
Brother Sul
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Sat 28 Jan 2017
at 23:28
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Sorry for the delay in updating, RL got me. Will post an update soon-ish.

For Sigi do whatever you think is best DM; my advice would be to retire the character as an NPC and advertise for a new player. D&D 5e is quite popular so you should have no trouble getting another player.

Oh and congrats Kharash on winning the writing contest!
Kharash
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Sun 29 Jan 2017
at 23:08
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It depends on how long she'll be gone, and what she wants to do herself. I don't know how many people are interested in taking over a complete character, but if someone is up for that, it's a good option. Though I don't think a different one would harm the game, no one has met Sigi's character IC yet.

Perhaps she could even come back as her own character at some later point in the game?
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Sun 29 Jan 2017
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I've placed the call out but expect the RTJ applications to trickle in. Until then, I will NPC her.
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Tue 31 Jan 2017
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I just realized that I never posted the winning submission for public viewing!


When asked about Kriegholdís motto, some will tell you it was created by the famous bard BjŲrn Larsson, others will claim it was first spoken by Jarl Sig himself, while even others will have their own theories about its origin. One thing that everyone agrees on, however, is that it originated from the time Krieghold itself was born. Before Krieghold existed, the lands around the Krieg and Haverun used to be ruled by different clans, each with their own jarl. These clans had been waging war amongst each other for as long as people remembered, and it wouldíve continued unchanged were it not for the arrival of a threat greater than ever before: a dragon.

It came from the east, terrorizing everything in its wake. The Haverun clans were the first to fall, as its people were preyed on and their towns were burned. As the dragon slowly traveled north along the Haverun, refugees started to pour into the other clansí towns. Jarl Sig, whose clan occupied the region where the Haverun splits form the Krieg, called out to every other jarl in the land. The jarls met and for the first time in recorded history they were united to a common goal.

Every clan provided men and materials, each brought their specialties, and within weeks an army was formed. Warriors that were previously bashing in each otherís head, were now training side by side. Scouts continuously reported the dragonís position and direction, and the jarlsí combined force prepared for the final battle. It was on the banks of the Krieg that the dragon and the army clashed. That fire met steel. The dragon arrived in the afternoon, and the battle lasted throughout the night. At last, in the early morning light it became clear that the people had emerged victorious. They had held the Krieg.

The combined effort had shown that the jarls and their people were not so different from each other, and that collaboration can be fruitful. Not long after their victory, the jarls joined in a union called the Krieghold. Jarl Sig was elected leader, and his town (Sigheim) became the capital. It is said that each jarl received an item made from one of the dragonís teeth, and that even today these artifacts are passed down the original jarlís bloodlines.

So, when asked about Kriegholdís motto, no one is sure who first said it. But everyone knows the story that preceded it. That through unified effort, we can be as mighty as a dragon.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 31 Jan 2017
at 02:23
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Very cool!
Eli Reiner
 Player, 23 posts
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Tue 31 Jan 2017
at 18:25
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So, are we paused until we can find a replacement player? I don't want to see this game die.
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Tue 31 Jan 2017
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Update is coming today. I have a trio of interested players. One is a dwarf runesmith, one is a half-elf wizard, and the last looks like he wants to play a druid. I might have to adopt them all of the concept are good enough. Two of them have previously applied and were in the final running.
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Tue 31 Jan 2017
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Bad form to double post, but this needs to be said. With one player gone for an indefinite amount of time and this game meaning loads to me, I will start enforcing posting rules.

I expected three times a week, but it looks like twice is more likely. That said, we have had several players log on but not post. You have three and a half hours to post a response or I will NPC you.
Kharash
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Tue 31 Jan 2017
at 21:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yes, sorry, I will post tonight!
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Fri 3 Feb 2017
at 19:35
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Update coming this afternoon
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Mon 6 Feb 2017
at 01:39
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
There is something I have been playing around with and decided that it would make a great contest for the month.

The contest is such:

If you were to score the current chapter, the events that happened, and each character, how would it sound?
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 9 Feb 2017
at 00:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sorry for the long and cheesy post but one of Griswold's personality traits is that he compliments everyone and makes them feel wonderful (or at least tries to).
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Thu 9 Feb 2017
at 23:07
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So, any suggestions or critiques for the game so far?
Eli Reiner
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Thu 9 Feb 2017
at 23:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm enjoying myself so far. It'll be interesting to see how the dynamic of the group meshes.
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Fri 10 Feb 2017
at 14:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
It would appear that all the prospective players have dropped out or gone silent. Looks like a five person party for now
Brother Sul
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Fri 10 Feb 2017
at 15:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm enjoying it, I do believe some early action would help the PCs get to mesh together more and become more involved.

As for getting new players I don't think there will be any problems finding new players for a 5e game if/when needed; otherwise a 5 person party is ideal IMO. Too many PCs results in chaos too often.

This message was last edited by the player at 15:25, Fri 10 Feb 2017.

Fariel Kriegborn
 Player, 18 posts
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Fri 10 Feb 2017
at 21:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
In reply to Brother Sul (msg # 83):

I'm enjoying it so far! definitely looking forward to combat though.
Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 10 Feb 2017
at 21:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah its very cool.  Big thanks to Eli for making my life much more interesting!  I don't have any suggestions right now.
Kharash
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Fri 10 Feb 2017
at 23:18
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Got some busy RL days, hopefully can post tomorrow.

Yeah, in my experience there's always a lot of interest in 5e games. Did Sigi have any idea when (if) she'd be back though?

About the game, I'm really enjoying it. I like how you handled the separate groups, and the input we can give as players makes me feel invested in this world as well. Also, Eli and Griswold, the roleplay between the two of you has been a joy to read, very well done!

The only suggestion I have is about something that hasn't come up yet: combat. But I thought I'd bring it up now anyways. I've seen GMs use different ways of handling it here on rpol, and they all work, but I do have a personal favorite. It's as follows:
(1) GM rolls all initiatives, players' initiative is either separate or as a group, enemies are one initiative group.
(2) Players with a higher initiative than the enemies are able to post/act during the first round.
(3) The enemies' round occurs, and the 'end-of-turn-post' is posted as a summary of that turn.
(4) All players can now act, after which another 'end-of-turn-post' with the enemies' actions.
(5) Etc.

What this means is that a lot of time is saved by not having individual players roll for initiative. Plus, the enemies' turn is always last, so those players with an initiative lower than the enemies have the possibility of making decisions based on what the enemies have actually done this turn. In systems where everyone posts before knowing what the enemies will do, those players that act after the enemies are at a disadvantage as their actions are based on outdated knowledge. Regarding the initiative order, nothing actually changes this way (the lowest initiative character still acts just before the highest initiative character).

Additionally, I've seen systems where player initiative is followed precisely, or is waived as a group (in which the post order determines the execution of actions). But for this I don't have a preference, both work equally well.

This is just one of the many ways to handle combat, and if you, GM, have a personal favorite which you want to use, I will of course follow that. But I thought I'd throw this out there to see what you all think.
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Fri 10 Feb 2017
at 23:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thank you for the kind words. Combat is still being decided on how to be handled, but as far as the initiative question goes, I will give you this answer.

The enemy group will always go on initiative ten. Certain enemies, particularly fast ones, might go at 14 or 15, but that would be rare. My goal is to give a constant during combat that is easy to follow. Combat will likely go like this.

I, or a player in certain cases, calls for everyone to roll initiative.
Enemy group goes at 10. I post a setup for combat if I have not done so already.
Players post according to initiative. I will allow to a player to spend their initial round of combat doing nothing to attempt a re roll, to "size up" the enemy. However, ever player that does this also bumps the initiative of the enemy group by 1 as they do the same to you.
Combat continues until either side disengages completely or is wiped.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 12 Feb 2017
at 21:23
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Please let me know if I am posting or rolling too much...I might be enjoying Griswold a little too much atm :P
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Sun 12 Feb 2017
at 21:52
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It's fine. Your roll was good to start with. The landmarks you described are indeed known to many, minus the carnival,
Eli Reiner
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Mon 13 Feb 2017
at 05:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Super busy weekend over here. I'll have a post up tomorrow.
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Mon 13 Feb 2017
at 23:22
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No luck on the roll, Kharash. Sorry!
Kharash
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Tue 14 Feb 2017
at 00:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah I figured as much, haha!

About your post regarding initiative. That looks interesting, the possibility of assessing the enemy at the cost of initiative, and I think it'll work pretty well. But it was not the point I was trying to make. What I meant is not to change the initiative, but to change the moment of the end-of-round/DM resolution post.

Let's say there are 5 players (A, B, C, D, and E) and the monsters. Everyone has their own rolled (or fixed) initiative, and all actions happen according to that initiative. Let's say the players' initiative is all over the place, with the monsters in the middle.

This is what it would normally look like:
(round 1) A, B, C, Monsters, D, E
- DM Resolution
(Round 2) A, B, C, Monsters, D, E
- DM Resolution
(round 3) A, B, C, Monsters, D, E
- DM Resolution

However, in this way player D and E are always posting their actions before the monsters have acted. Perhaps player D posted he was going to attack the monsters, but didn't know that one of his allies would be knocked unconscious on the monsters' turn. Player D would maybe want to use a heal on that ally, but couldn't foresee that happening. The players behind the monsters in the initiative order are always lagging behind in this case.

The thing I'm talking about simply changes the moment of the 'DM resolution':
(Round 1) A, B, C, Monsters
- DM Resolution
(Round 1) D, E (Round 2) A, B, C, Monsters
- DM Resolution
(round 2) D, E (round 3) A, B, C, Monsters
- DM Resolution

This way all players are up to date on what the monsters do, and can act accordingly.

Note that I'm not criticizing you or your game in any way. This is just something I've had a good experience with when playing play-by-post, and thought I'd share it. You can do with it what you want :)
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Tue 14 Feb 2017
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I am actually thinking of doing the second way. It makes the most sense with how I plan on working initiative.
Kharash
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Tue 14 Feb 2017
at 08:18
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Is it possible to find the location that we need in the riddle?
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Thu 16 Feb 2017
at 04:29
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Yes, although a few good rolls have help tremendously. Sorry, I've been sick the last few days. Update coming tomorrow if you all have decided on a course of action.
Eli Reiner
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Sun 19 Feb 2017
at 19:56
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Don't fret over that 11. Eli will be there to swoop in and recover the fumble when she shuts Griswold down. ;-)
Eli Reiner
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Mon 20 Feb 2017
at 19:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Oh, I'm going to enjoy answering Kharash's question when I get home from work this evening. *grin*
Brother Sul
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Mon 20 Feb 2017
at 19:52
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
By the way Eli you can assume Sul has raised a cup in return to you also once he gets a cup in hand. Should have put that in my post...:P
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Tue 21 Feb 2017
at 03:26
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I was planning on updating today, but the site being down stopped that. Tomorrow it is.
Eli Reiner
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Tue 21 Feb 2017
at 04:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
...and now we play the waiting game...

If it's not clear OOC by now, one of Eli's character traits is that he'll make stuff up for the sake of telling a good story.

Let's see just how much of that was believable. I can just picture it now. Griswold accidentally lets a small burp out after eating and the others quietly glance at each other awkwardly as they wonder if that's repressed Goblin tendency. Haha

This message was last edited by the player at 05:22, Tue 21 Feb 2017.

Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 21 Feb 2017
at 09:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Such an imagination!  Though you might want to roll deceive with that - at disadvantage :P
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Wed 22 Feb 2017
at 02:38
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Great post! I will update further shortly. You might have another group member here shortly!

Also, the game map has been updated.
Eli Reiner
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Wed 22 Feb 2017
at 04:57
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Oh? Are we going to potentially adding a new character or is a new player taking over for the one who had to step away?
Eli Reiner
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Wed 22 Feb 2017
at 05:02
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I was telling a friend of mine IRL about the story Eli told and came to a realization as I said the names aloud. Griswold actually sounds like it could be a Goblin's name. Hahaha ;-) Sorry Gris, but it's true.
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 22 Feb 2017
at 11:13
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Eli Reiner:
Griswold actually sounds like it could be a Goblin's name. Hahaha ;-) Sorry Gris, but it's true.


Hmm, yeah, I see that :)
Kharash
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Wed 22 Feb 2017
at 16:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Good story Eli :)
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Wed 22 Feb 2017
at 17:57
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In reply to Eli Reiner (msg # 103):

A new character. Still working on the creation process with him.
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Fri 24 Feb 2017
at 19:02
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I am sorry to say that Fariel has left the game. I will be working on the replacement player today. Looks like you guys might be stuck as a 5-man band.
Eli Reiner
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Sat 25 Feb 2017
at 17:33
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
In reply to Eli Reiner (msg # 103):

A new character. Still working on the creation process with him.


Wrenn, I'm assuming?
Wrenn Muernig
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Sat 25 Feb 2017
at 17:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
That just might be the one. *shiftyeyes*
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Tue 28 Feb 2017
at 00:10
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Enjoy the introduction of your newest party member.

Wrenn- Good luck explaining that one!

This message had punctuation tweaked by the GM at 00:10, Tue 28 Feb 2017.

Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 28 Feb 2017
at 09:12
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome to the party, Wrenn!  Its unfortunate that you apparently killed the only woman in the group during your arrival.  Unfortunate for you that is!

*Dun dun dun!*
Kharash
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Tue 28 Feb 2017
at 14:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome Wrenn!
Wrenn Muernig
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Tue 28 Feb 2017
at 15:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn can't miss a lady he never saw in the first place. ;)

Thanks for the welcome, guys.
Eli Reiner
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Wed 1 Mar 2017
at 03:39
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I was hoping to get a meaningful post in this evening, but I'm exhausted (long day). I'll update Eli tomorrow.
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Thu 2 Mar 2017
at 12:25
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Can I get a perception check from everyone?
Wrenn Muernig
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Thu 2 Mar 2017
at 13:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm running late to work, so I don't have time to write a post right now, but:

07:36, Today: Wrenn Muernig rolled 13 using 1d20.  Perception.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 2 Mar 2017
at 13:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Here's mine:
13:38, Today: Griswold Ortmann rolled 14 using 1d20-1.  Perception.
Eli Reiner
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Thu 2 Mar 2017
at 13:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
Can I get a perception check from everyone?



08:49, Today: Eli Reiner rolled 22 using 1d20+2 ((20)).

Wonder if I passed
Kharash
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Thu 2 Mar 2017
at 14:41
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
15:41, Today: Kharash rolled 14 using 1d20+1.  Perception.
Brother Sul
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Thu 2 Mar 2017
at 17:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
22 on Perception for Sul.
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Thu 2 Mar 2017
at 17:36
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Thank you. Update coming in the next 24hrs. Can everyone hold off on posting until then?
Brother Sul
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Sun 5 Mar 2017
at 21:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Should we still hold for your update GM?
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Mon 6 Mar 2017
at 01:21
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Nope. I posted what I needed to.
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Mon 6 Mar 2017
at 02:44
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Also, if y'all ever feel like a scene is dragging, you can let me know and we will push forward.
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 6 Mar 2017
at 02:58
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I wanted to give other people a chance to actually say things. I'm fine RPing the intro some more, but I'm fine moving on to the next set of instructions too.
Kharash
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Mon 6 Mar 2017
at 12:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I don't think it's dragging, but I'm interested in hearing what the next task is. We can always RP more on the road as well.
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Wed 8 Mar 2017
at 05:09
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Is everybody doing okay? I was waiting for a few more responses before I moved it on but it seems that life has caught up with everyone.
Wrenn Muernig
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Wed 8 Mar 2017
at 05:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm good. Like I said, I was giving others a chance to jump in.
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Mon 13 Mar 2017
at 06:30
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Eli has been gone for a couple of weeks now. I was hoping that that he would be back by now, but we have to move on. If you have anything else to say, do it today. I will update the scene tomorrow.
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Sun 2 Apr 2017
at 17:46
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Sorry folks. Work has been killer. Hopefully update will come in the next couple of days.
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Sat 8 Apr 2017
at 14:10
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Can I get a roll call. I want to know who is still here.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sat 8 Apr 2017
at 16:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
\o 'sup
Kharash
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Sat 8 Apr 2017
at 17:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Still here :)
Brother Sul
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Sat 8 Apr 2017
at 21:14
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Still here also, just been a bit busy @ my job the past few days
Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 9 Apr 2017
at 01:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm here.
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Sun 9 Apr 2017
at 13:17
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Solid. I will move us to the next day soon. Unless anybody has objections?
Kharash
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Sun 9 Apr 2017
at 19:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sounds good!
Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 9 Apr 2017
at 21:13
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Let's roll
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 10 Apr 2017
at 02:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
On Thursday I'm taking a business trip that'll last at least through the weekend, possibly a little bit into next week. I should still have access to the site every day, but may be restricted to only posting in the evenings.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 11 Apr 2017
at 21:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think Griswold may have had too much to drink - he's seeing triple [posts]!
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Tue 11 Apr 2017
at 21:39
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It won't let me delete the extras. Sometimes RPOL causes me too many headaches.
Kharash
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Thu 13 Apr 2017
at 19:41
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
This trial looks exciting!
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Mon 17 Apr 2017
at 06:48
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So, a game that I am in has been dying and many of the players are looking for a new game. We might have a few new players, maybe even a rival group!
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 17 Apr 2017
at 13:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Bring 'em on!
Kharash
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Mon 17 Apr 2017
at 18:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sounds good :)
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 18 Apr 2017
at 17:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well no accounting for bad rolls I guess :( Anything anyone can do to help Griswold (assuming you support his attempt to rile up the crowd) would be good.  Thanks :D
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Fri 28 Apr 2017
at 09:22
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Welcome Brimir, our newest player!
Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 28 Apr 2017
at 09:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
An ogre?  Cool!  Welcome :D
Kharash
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Fri 28 Apr 2017
at 10:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome Brimir! Entertaining character description :)
Brimir
 Player, 1 post
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 03:59
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the opportunity to join the game; it was kind of you to accept another player (especially the GM).

I'm looking forward to playing; just trying to find my footing in the story as it stands. ;)
Brimir
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Sun 30 Apr 2017
at 17:55
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Oh, I completely forgot to clarify: Brimir is the ogre guard/servant who has been shadowing the Lady Inara earlier in this scene and at the inn. So the group's already had some interaction with him today and last night, albeit rather terse and businesslike.

Seemed an ideal place to step in, since the ogre was already there...

EDIT: Also, picking each one of you by name was made easier by Griswold shouting out introductions for each party member to the crowd moments ago. That's what prompted Brimir to check his list. ;)

This message was last edited by the player at 18:01, Sun 30 Apr 2017.

Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 30 Apr 2017
at 19:12
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Oh, cool.  Thank you for the clarification :)
Brimir
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Sat 6 May 2017
at 13:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Is there a visible light source in the mirror-room?
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Sun 7 May 2017
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Just ambient light. No visible source of life.

I forgot to ask, if you look in a mirror, make a perception or investigation based ability check.
Brimir
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Sun 7 May 2017
at 14:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks GM.

And I appreciate that, having taken the option to avoid making an Intelligence-based roll at disadvantage, the dice-roller handed me the minimum possible roll I could have achieved had I opted to roll twice and take the lowest for Intelligence anyway.

For the record, Brimir is probably of a similar height to Kharash; he might be heavier, but ogres in this setting don't seem to be (quite) the 10' giants observed elsewhere. So at 6' tall Griswold could probably rub the top of the ogre's bald head for good luck without too much trouble, if he so wished.
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Mon 8 May 2017
at 06:48
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We have lost Brother Sul. The party is in flux. I have two applicants interested, but it seems that you four will likely be the core group now. I figured it would take a few months for the game to level out.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 9 May 2017
at 10:14
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
@GM - Hopefully I don't need to make a perception for this information:  How many mirrors are there in the room?  Thanks!
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Tue 9 May 2017
at 10:23
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Eight! Sorry for the omission.
Kharash
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Fri 12 May 2017
at 16:13
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Interesting puzzle. To prevent flooding the IC with questions, I'll ask them here.

Are the 'wrong' reflections the same in every mirror, or do they change between mirrors as well?

What are the different reflections?

What are the statues other than the knight, ogre and elf holding in their hands? And do they hold this item in their hand only in the reflection?
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Fri 12 May 2017
at 16:52
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To answer your questions:

No, none of the reflections repeat in differences.

The reflections that do not match simply have the statues in slightly different positions and attire.

The demon holds a scimitar, the angel holds a glaive, the mage holds a staff, the priest has a holy symbol, and the woodland figure has a longsword. The items remain in the reflections
Brimir
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Sat 13 May 2017
at 13:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Nice work, team. I had the mirrors guessed (if indeed we are right), but for the life of me I couldn't figure out the rose answer.
Kharash
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Sat 13 May 2017
at 14:30
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I only realized because Griswold mentioned that this competition was about meeting a Rose. I had forgotten that small detail.
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Sun 14 May 2017
at 04:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm going to update in 24hrs. Please have a plan in place by then.
Brimir
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Sun 14 May 2017
at 09:42
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I suggest we put the rose medallion in the knight's hands and see what happens. If nothing much, then touch the mirrors in order; if still nothing, then rearrange them.

Brimir is clearly inclined to start with the direct physical solution of rearranging the mirrors, however.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 14 May 2017
at 10:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Personally, I have no idea. I'm basically an idiot when it comes to puzzles irl and never get the answers right (if you care, the spoiler section below has some of my random thoughts on the puzzle that probably miss the mark by a mile).  So, yeah, happy to go with whatever you guys want to do.

Only thing I will say is that I do feel like we are supposed to do something with all the items.  Seems too convenient that there are 8 mirrors, 8 statues and 8 medallions.  I've been trying my to come up with connections between all the things, but found nothing so far.


Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)

I've had a brief look at the Greek, Norse and Egyptian Gods to see if there was any correlation between the symbols on the medallions and the statues, but nothing jumped out at me.  I have also reviewed the information we have about Arathia and a couple of things came up:

Of the orders of knights in Krieghold, there are 7 most well known:
Rose, Spring, Quill, Dragon, Golden Thread, Ashen Order, Coin

I think at some point, the Emperor may also have been mentioned as being considered a knight, bringing the total to 8.  Though that may have just been musings between me and our awesome GM.


There are also 8 'common' races to Arathia:
Human, Elf, Dwarf, Halflings, Half-Elves, Half-Orcs, Half-Dwarf, Ogres

If we're talking about the kingdom, it maybe that each is represented, but I do not know how they correlate if that is the case.


Otherwise, if we just go with the statues and medallions, the pairings might be something like:
Knight > Rose
Mage > Book / Jester
Woodland figure > Unicorn
Ogre > Ship (?)
Elf > Unicorn/Eye
Priest > Quill
Demon > Jester
Angel > Scales/Eye

/shrug

There could be 8 directions on a compass: N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW

Could the order that the GM told us the information be important?
Words on the mirrors: (1) inspire, (2) the, (3) by, (4) lead, (5) kingdom, (6) example, (7) to, (8) entire
If I got it right, rearrange to: (4) lead (3) by (6) example (7) to (1) inspire (2) the (8) entire (5) Kingdom

Statues: (1) a knight in plate, (2) a mage in robes, (3) a figure in woodland garb, (4) an ogre with a maul, (5) an elf with a bow, (6) a priest with extended, (7) a demon, and (8) an angel
Using the rearranged order of the mirror words, could become:  Ogre, Woodland Figure, Priest, Demon, Knight, Mage, Angel, Elf

For the medallions we get:
Rose, quill, eye, book, jester, scales, unicorn, ship

There's probably a million other things that I could have tried that I haven't even thought of as well.  Its really annoying because I feel like the answer is staring me in the face and should be very simple, but I'm just incapable of tying everything together.



Oh - I will add that one of the original tenants that I wrote for the Roses was that they INSPIRE others.  Meaning that if I had to choose, that's the mirror I would place the knight and the rose in front of.  However, the tenants didn't make it to the Knowledge section of Arathia, so that might not even be a thing anymore.

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Sun 14 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Tenants are in the Player Additions thread.
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Oh, I just realized that I didn't explicitly mention the table is octal(8 sided). Sorry!
Kharash
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Sun 14 May 2017
at 11:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ok, here are some thoughts.

Good call on the common races, I had forgotten about that! I noticed too that some medallions reflected the knight orders of Krieghold - though not all of them. Upon reading the background descriptions of those order, I noticed something. The Golden Thread order actually has a ship as symbol, and the custodians of the Coin have no symbol.

The Helmets of the Rose         - rose
The Spring Order                -
The Guardians of the Quill      - quill
The Dragon Legion               - scale
The League of the Golden Thread - ship
The Ashen Order                 -
The Custodians of the Coin      - none

That leaves the following medallions: book, jester, unicorn, eye.
I'm not sure if there's a connection to the knight orders now... If some symbols are not related to the knights, perhaps they are to other factions.

The eye could be related to the Watchers (Eyes of Yggdrasil).
The book is a symbol of mages (Obsidian Tower of the Magi). This could therefore be related to the Ashen order.
The unicorn and jester - no clue.

About the figures, all but the knight have something in hand. Though I'm unsure if it matters.

Knight in plate               -
Mage in robes                 -  staff
Figure in woodland garb       -  longsword
Ogre                          -  maul
Elf                           -  bow
Priest with extended (hands?) -  holy symbol
Demon                         -  scimitar
Angel                         -  glaive

Good catch about the 'inspire' being related to the Rose as well. I wonder if the order of how the figures and medallions were described matters though. I have the feeling those were random.

About the medallions, some make sense, some don't. I personally would've related the unicorn to the angel (they're both celestial beings right?). The following list makes sense to me (missing the eye, scale and ship)

Knight in plate               -               - rose
Mage in robes                 -  staff        - book
Figure in woodland garb       -  longsword    -
Ogre                          -  maul         -
Elf                           -  bow          -
Priest with extended (hands?) -  holy symbol  -
Demon                         -  scimitar     - jester
Angel                         -  glaive       - unicorn


One thing I was thinking of is this: the only figure who's stance doesn't change in the mirror's reflection is the knight. Noting that the Custodians of the Coin order has no symbol, perhaps this figure is already 'complete' and therefore doesn't change its reflection. This makes me wonder whether we can make the other figures' reflection also not change depending on the medallions we put on them. This would leave one medallion as an extra in the end though...
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 14 May 2017
at 12:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ooh I didn't think of scales as in dragon scales.  I thought they were measuring scales, like those used to weigh things.  I allocated them either to the angel, in their duty as judges of whether or not someone can enter heaven (or perhaps Valhalla in this context?), or to the dwarves as merchant scales.  Your interpretation could work better.

@GM - could you confirm the type of scales we are looking at?

It would seems strange to only represent some of the knightly orders and not all of them imo.  However, the Eyes of Yggdrasil being the 8th group is very compelling, imo.

The Jester is a trickster.  A Trickster could be another term for a mage, or at least how members of the Ashen order view mages.  Loki is a trickster, but his tricks are magic after all.  So that could be their symbol maybe?  A tenuous link perhaps...

The book could also be for the Guardians of the quill, since it is their sworn duty to protect knowledge.  However, the quill itself seems to fit too well otherwise.
I'd like to think more on this but I have to be somewhere now.  BBL.
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Sun 14 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
The scales are indeed of the reptilian type. Good question to ask. My RL tabletop game took nearly an hour to ask about whether each symbol is what they thought it was. Everybody had also assumed they were judgement scales.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 14 May 2017
at 13:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hmm so there may be other aspects of the items on the table which we have confused?  I'll try rolling investigation to see if I notice anything else then.

Nevermind - I only managed a 9.

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Brimir
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Sun 14 May 2017
at 14:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Evidently I hadn't considered this anywhere near in-depth enough. Definitely a good pick-up on the scales; I had assumed balance scales as well. Seems you're actually pretty good with puzzles, Griswold. :)

Looking at the orders (and the Watchers) along with their symbols I'm seeing a distribution something like this:

Order
Symbol
Medallion
Rose
Rose
Rose
Spring
Flowering Tree
Unicorn?
Quill
Golden Quill
Quill
Dragon
Dragon Head
Scales
Golden Thread
Ship
Ship
Ashen Order
Skull and Hourglass
Book?
Coin
None/Ring of Medallions
Jester?
Watchers
Eye
Eye


The three with question marks are particularly speculative. I put the Unicorn with Spring because of the association with woodlands, nature, and purity. The other two were a bit arbitrary. The book to represent the forbidden lore that the Ashen Order hunts down, and the Jester to represent the Knights Errant, similar to the wandering Fool of the Tarot card. I'm not saying it's not a stretch. Alternatively, the Jester could be a 'wild card' to fit the space of an order without a symbol.

If we drop the Watchers out of the equation and stick to the Knightly orders, I would suggest something like this:

Order
Symbol
Medallion
Rose
Rose
Rose
Spring
Flowering Tree
Unicorn
Quill
Golden Quill
Quill
Dragon
Dragon Head
Scales
Golden Thread
Ship
Ship
Ashen Order
Skull and Hourglass
Eye
Coin
None/Ring of Medallions
Book


The purity connection for Spring and the Unicorn; it's their job to hunt monsters. The Ashen Order are constantly watching everywhere for the incursion of dark magic (the Eye). And the Coin maintain the great knightly census, recording the names of the living and the dead (the Book). Which leaves the Jester as a 'spare' medallion (joker, red-herring, or representing the group themselves).

The table being eight-sided, each figurine has to oppose another. It could be that they are designed to have some kind of association in that regard. Looking at the different orders I thought perhaps there might be oppositions between them (assuming the Rose is unopposed), but the notes on relationships don't support that, as I read them. Several orders dislike the dragons, the remainder largely get along or don't care about one another.

In terms of contrast or opposition, the only direct opposition I see is Demons and Angels. The Priest might oppose the Demon, but then who would be against the Angel? The Mage?

Demon - Angel
Ogre - Elf
Knight - Woodland Garb
Priest - Mage

As for assigning the figurines to particular orders, I'm having trouble with that. The eight-sided table seems to imply that each side gets one statuette and one medallion.

@GM - Are the medallions on chains and of a size suited to put around the necks of the statuettes, or do the statues have settings/slots suitable for placing a medallion into? Does the table have any grooves, slots, or settings? Were the figures evenly distributed about the table when we arrived?
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Sun 14 May 2017
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Has anyone actually picked up a statue yet? Kharash was going to but Griswold stopped him.
Kharash
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Sun 14 May 2017
at 15:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Kharash has walked around with a statue and medallion before (to check if there was a difference in reflection between each mirror), but hasn't put a medallion on a statue yet.

I also tried to see if the mirrors were movable. Or are they stuck to the wall?

That's an interesting find, Brimir, that the statues are opposites! The opposites you proposed make sense as well.
Brimir
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Sun 14 May 2017
at 15:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
It is possible that the Knight is 'leading by example' in that its reflection doesn't change; trialling one of the statues on each side of the table might come up with a spot where the reflection is consistent in all mirrors, and we may be able to find the correct locations for each one by trial and error if that's the case.
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Sun 14 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Picking up a statue reveals a place that looks like it will fit a medallion.
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 00:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
About the Order of the Coin not having a medallion - just a thought but what do coins from Krieghold actually have engraved on them in the first place?

Or - do we use one of our own coins instead?

I like your reasoning for the book to belong to the coin actually, Brimir.  So much so that I'd be inclined to amend your first table to:

Order
Symbol
Medallion
Rose
Rose
Rose
Spring
Flowering Tree
Unicorn?
Quill
Golden Quill
Quill
Dragon
Dragon Head
Scales
Golden Thread
Ship
Ship
Ashen Order
Skull and Hourglass
Jester
Coin
None/Ring of Medallions
Book
Watchers
Eye
Eye


I agree with the Unicorn.

The opposites are not something I had considered :)

As for being good at puzzles - I am totally not.  I just keep introducing more and more ideas and can never settle on one as I always end up second guessing myself.

Edit: Okay, I am already second guessing myself now ^^ The book could still relate to the Ashen Order, for the reasons Kharash posted about the book also potentially representing the Mages.  I also didn't give enough credit to the idea that the Jester is a Wild Card.  I don't really play card games, but I vaguely remember games played at school many years ago when the Jester could be used as a stand in for other cards.  After all a 'pack' of cards is only 52, but the 2 jesters technically make 54, I, uh, think :P

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Kharash
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 06:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
You're correct about the jester (or joker) in a deck of cards ;)

It seems we're getting closer to having the medallions paired with each order. But then we need to relate these combinations to the statues as well. Either via medallion-statue or medallion-order combinations. And after that we need to pair the statues+medallions to the words on the mirrors (likely in opposites).

Perhaps there are links between the words on the mirrors and either the statue, medallion, or orders. Though I can't think of any besides the Rose (who still has three viable spots haha).

Also, you mentioned the relationships between orders Brimir, which could make this a small game of 'who sits next to who'. Or whatever such games are called. I'll check of there's a correlation later.

GM, just some more questions about the scene. Are the mirrors movable? Are the slots for the medallions in the table or in the statues? Is the table movable or turnable?
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Mon 15 May 2017
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The table is bolted down, as are the mirrors. The slots are located on the bottom of the statues. You can see faint outlines on the table where the statues have been sitting.
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 09:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I don't think the words on the mirror can be paired up to the statues.  I don't believe the words like 'by' and 'to' are really indicative enough of anything.  I'm not even certain the words are a major part of the puzzle, since the riddle on the table is not either as far as I can tell.  It seems just there to give a hint to us.

The relationships might work, I guess.  With the eye being opposite the Rose since the Rose has no enemies amongst the knightly orders and the eye is kinda the odd one out.  But I still don't see how you would determine where to go from there.  Even if you come up with opposition orders, how do you decide who goes where?

Thank you for the extra detail, GM :)

Hmm...if there are marks where the statues have been sitting doesn't that mean they have been here for a long time?  That seems odd if people have been picking them up and putting them down.  Especially if they have been moving them to different spots on the table.  May be we don't need to move them at all?  I would assume that it at least means we place them on the table rather than anywhere else in the room.

Its also possible that this set up has come from somewhere else.  Like it wasn't made just for the test but is/was part of some display brought from another location.  Though, if that's the case, simply rolling history to remember the answer would be a cheap way to get the solution, so I'm not going there :P

@GM - which mirror is the knight currently facing?

Thanks!
Kharash
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 09:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Just playing around here. Just for this, I chose to put book with Ashen Order and jester with Custodians of the Coin.

I tried making a 'who wants to sit next to who' distribution. There are quite some possibilities, especially since both the Rose and Watchers are wild cards here. However, I did have some things to start with: we can connect the Knight to the Rose, the Angel to the Unicorn, the Book to the Mage, and the Jester to the Demon. We know the (expected) opposites of these, so we can fill in a bit more. By playing around I made this table:

Coin
Ashen
Quill
Rose
Spring
Watchers
Legion
Thread
Likes
Quill
Ashen
Thread
Coin
Thread
Ashen
Quill
Coin
Ashen
Thread
Spring
Quill
Neutral
Spring
Thread
Quill
Spring
Legion
Thread
Ashen
Legion
Coin
Dislikes
Legion
Legion
Legion
Thread
Quill
Spring
Coin
Ashen
Statue
Demon
Mage
(elf)
Knight
Angel
(priest)
(ogre)
(woodland)

I focused mainly on making sure no one is sitting next to someone they dislike. I filled in the remaining statues kinda random.
Interestingly, this puts the priest under the Watchers. Which would fit, since the Eyes of Yggdrasil are related to a deity. On the other hand this puts the woodland figure in combination with the ship medallion, which would fit less well.

If I then apply that sequence of statues to the list we already had and include the words on the mirror we get something like this (for simplicity took the knight as starting point):

Order
Symbol
Medallion
Statue
Word
Coin
None/Ring of Medallions
Jester
Demon
(5) Inspire
Ashen Order
Skull and Hourglass
Book
Mage
(6) The
Quill
Golden Quill
Quill
(elf)
(2) By
Rose
Rose
Rose
Knight
(1) Lead
Spring
Flowering Tree
Unicorn
Angel
(8) Kingdom
Watchers
Eye
Eye
(priest)
(3) Example
Dragon Legion
Dragon Head
Scales
(ogre)
(4) To
Golden Thread
Ship
Ship
(woodland)
(7) Entire


Meh, it's just a guess.. we can also find out by trial and error. Though there may be risks involved.
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 09:45
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Words aside, for the statues maybe we don't consider what they are as much as what they represent?

Knight holding nothing - Surely the Rose as they are seen as the 'Epitome' of knighthood - the ideal knight.  They therefore have no need to change?  Aka remaining the same in the mirror?

Elf with bow - Not sure.  Perhaps a vigilant sentinel?  the Watcher?

Ogre with maul - Something single-minded and unstoppable?  Dragon?

Angel with Glaive - A fighting saviour? Spring?

Demon with Scimitar - Something sinister and feared?  Ashen?
                    - Or simply something strange?  Golden Thread?

Mage with Staff - A learned man?  Quill?
                  If taken at face value - Ashen?

Priest with Holy Symbol - One dedicated to their beliefs? Quill?
                        - An Inquisitor Maybe?  Ashen?

Woodland figure with Longsword - A tracker maybe?  Coin?

Again, the Ashen Order, if we're thinking along the right lines, is causing me issues.  This time the Golden Thread too.  My thoughts with the Demon linked to the Golden Thread is that the Order is the only without a focus on protecting some part of Krieghold.  They are all about adventure and, in fact, actively encourage people to place themselves in danger.  Of lesser importance is that, for a real life comparison, scimitars are a foreign weapon for a knight, which might mean the demon comes from foreign lands?

If we assume the Ashen Order's Medallion is the Book, then I guess I get:

Order
Symbol
Medallion
Statue
Coin
None/Ring of Medallions
Jester
Woodland Figure
Ashen Order
Skull and Hourglass
Book
Mage
Quill
Golden Quill
Quill
Priest
Rose
Rose
Rose
Knight
Spring
Flowering Tree
Unicorn
Angel
Watchers
Eye
Eye
Elf
Dragon Legion
Dragon Head
Scales
Ogre
Golden Thread
Ship
Ship
Demon

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Mon 15 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
The knight is on the side matching the kingdom mirror. It is facing the interior of the table.
Kharash
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 10:18
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
If the knight is on the 'kingdom' side facing the interior, it is facing the 'inspire' mirror. Interesting.

I think the fact that the reflections of these statues change is a big thing. We have to find if it's possible to make other statues not change. This can be either due to their position (and direction they're facing) or due to the medallion they're connected with - or both.

Shall we try just out some things to see if we can change some reflections?

We can try to put the rose medallion on the knight statue.
We can try to put the woodland figure opposite of the knight, facing the knight.
We can try to put the book medallion on the mage.
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 10:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Kharash:
We can try to put the rose medallion on the knight statue.
We can try to put the woodland figure opposite of the knight, facing the knight.
We can try to put the book medallion on the mage.


I'm fine with trying stuff at this point.  I feel that we have made a good attempt at least solving the puzzle.  However, I do not agree that (if position is important) the woodland figure would be opposite the knight.  That said, if we try it and get burnt alive at least we'll know for sure :P
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Mon 15 May 2017
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Remember that Brother Sul is still available if you want to ask any questions of him. Don't count the character out even if the player is gone.
Brimir
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 10:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well, that appears to confirm the idea that each medallion corresponds to a statuette (in case there was any doubt). Thanks GM!

So which goes with which? Do we try to attribute an order to each statuette, and then from there infer a medallion? Or is there another way to look at this?

I don't see any superficial relationships between the statuettes and the Orders, or the statuettes and the medallions. We can see if the Rose fits into the Knight and anything happens from that.

Since each mirror bears a slightly different reflection, perhaps Kharash was on the right track: If we watch the changes in each statuette from the 'Lead' mirror through the sentence to the 'Kingdom' mirror, perhaps they show a progression which will give some clue as to their allegiance/association.

I definitely feel as though we're missing a clue or set of clues which distinguish or identify the statuettes. In fact, I was pre-empted by the GM a bit here; I was going to suggest that there might be some character knowledge that could fill in the gaps.

Are any of these statuettes actually representations of historical figures, heroes (or villains) associated with any of the orders? Perhaps Griswold has some insight into the orders, being a squire; let's pester Brother Sul as well.

Unfortunately I ran out of time today to make a post (and I didn't really want to double-post in the IC thread). But I'm sure Brimir will make some interesting History, Religion, and Arcana checks of his own...
Kharash
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 11:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Kharash:
First, he put the statuette back in the same spot on the table, but facing the other way (towards the 'kingdom' mirror).

Second, he put the knight statuette on the next spot (clockwise, in front of the 'example' mirror I believe), facing towards the center of the table (towards the 'the' mirror I believe). Then turning it around (facing 'example').

Third, he inserted the book medallion into the knight statue and put the knight statue on its original spot (in front of the 'kingdom' mirror, facing 'inspire').

Fourth, he removed the book medallion, and inserted the rose medallion into the knight statue. After which he put the knight statue on its original spot but facing the other way (towards the 'kingdom' mirror).

Fifth, with the rose medallion inserted he put the knight statue on its original spot (in front of the 'kingdom' mirror, facing 'inspire').

Ok, I've started some trial and error - if there are consequences for simply trying then at least we'll know that and can focus on figuring it out beforehand.

Since we have good indication that at least some part of the knight statue is already correct, I thought it best to continue with this one. With these questions I hope to answer a few things regarding the reflection. My line of thinking is that if any of these factors are wrong, the knight statue should have a changed reflection (it's also possible the knight statue never changes reflections, then we'll have to try with different statues but that will be so much more guessing).

With these tests I'm trying to figure out a few things (in relation to the reflection):
1) if the direction the statue is facing is important
2) if the location is important
3) if the medallion is important
4) if a combination of these things is important, and how many factors of the combination are required to get a normal reflection (the knight may have correct facing and location, but it doesn't have a medallion - if only one factor is required for a correct reflection it'll make our task a bit more difficult)
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Mon 15 May 2017
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Quick question

What are you doing with the other statues? By switching spots, you are going to have to move the others and I need to know exactly what you are doing with the others.
Kharash
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 11:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I suppose just switch them. The one that the knight replaces on the knight's spot.
(though Kharash will stop as soon as anything dangerous happens)

If the individual steps matter:
- pick up the statue in front of 'example'
- put that statue on a non-spot on the table
- pick up the knight statue and put it in front of 'example'
- put the other statue on the knight's original spot
GM
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Mon 15 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
You will have to be more explicit in which statues you are moving. They are currently set up like this.

                                    Mirrors
                                    Kingdom
                              Lead            Example
                                By            To
                               The            Entire
                                    Inspire

                                    Statuettes
                                     Knight
                          Woodland             Mage
                          Demon                Ogre
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf

Kharash
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 12:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Knight and mage
Kharash
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 13:06
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Just to be clear, this is the position that triggered the woodland figure's 'normalization'?


                                    Mirrors
                                    Kingdom
                              Lead            Example
                                By            To
                               The            Entire
                                    Inspire

                                   Statuettes
                                      Mage
                          Woodland             Knight
                          Demon                Ogre
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf

GM
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Mon 15 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Correct
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 15 May 2017
at 13:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Nice! Well done, Kharash :)

@GM - is the Knight's position now different in the mirror?
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Mon 15 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
No, it remains the same
Kharash
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Mon 15 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Interesting :)
So what I'm curious about now is whether the connection between the statues are the trigger, or if the words on the mirror are also involved.

What happens when we shift the knight and woodland figure one spot to the left (counter-clockwise)? To this position:

                                    Mirrors
                                    Kingdom
                              Lead            Example
                                By            To
                               The            Entire
                                    Inspire

                                   Statuettes
                                      Knight
                          Demon                Mage
                          Woodland             Ogre
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf

Brimir
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Tue 16 May 2017
at 02:58
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
The Knight is now facing the word 'Lead' which is the beginning of the phrase; is it worth going through the rest of the words of the phrase in order? I.e. facing 'By', then 'Example', etc. So next:

Step 2

                                    Mirrors
                                    Kingdom
                              Lead            Example
                                By            To
                               The            Entire
                                    Inspire

                                   Statuettes
                                      Mage
                          Woodland             Ogre
                          Demon                Knight
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf


Then:
Step 3

                                    Mirrors
                                    Kingdom
                              Lead            Example
                                By            To
                               The            Entire
                                    Inspire

                                   Statuettes
                                      Mage
                          Knight               Ogre
                          Demon                Woodland
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf


The only issue is that going to 'To' leaves the Knight opposite the Woodland figure again, which may or may not have repercussions. So perhaps worth swapping the Mage and the Woodland figures before moving the Knight to the position opposite 'To'.

Step 4

                                   Statuettes
                                      Woodland
                          Knight               Ogre
                          Demon                Mage
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf

Step 5

                                   Statuettes
                                      Woodland
                          Demon                Ogre
                          Knight               Mage
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf

Step 6

                                   Statuettes
                                      Knight
                          Demon                Ogre
                          Woodland             Mage
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf


Step 7

                                   Statuettes
                                      Priest
                          Demon                Ogre
                          Woodland             Mage
                          Angel                Knight
                                      Elf


Then again there's a repetition of you swap the Knight and Angel to go from 'The' to 'Entire', so I'd propose swapping the Priest and Angel first.

Step 8

                                   Statuettes
                                      Angel
                          Demon                Ogre
                          Woodland             Mage
                          Priest                Knight
                                      Elf


Step 9

                                   Statuettes
                                      Angel
                          Demon                Ogre
                          Woodland             Mage
                          Knight               Priest
                                      Elf


And then... I think that's everyone. So Knight moves to face 'Kingdom'.

Step 10

                                   Statuettes
                                      Angel
                          Demon                Ogre
                          Woodland             Mage
                          Elf                  Priest
                                      Knight


That way the Knight has been at every position of the saying, and has opposed each figurine. Absolutely no help with the medallions, though. And completely unhelpful if each statuette has to be in its original position when the Knight opposes it (which is another possibility).

Maybe something about each statuette's final pose and outfit can give a clue to which medallion it matches (if any)?

This message was last edited by the player at 03:00, Tue 16 May 2017.

Wrenn Muernig
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Tue 16 May 2017
at 03:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Apologies for my absence, I had a death in the family and had to travel for it. Honestly haven't even thought about RPoL since I got the news.

Looks like I've got a crapload of stuff to get caught up on here.
Wrenn Muernig
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Tue 16 May 2017
at 04:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I might have to save this game for tomorrow. Not sure I have the brainpower for puzzle at the moment.
Brimir
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Tue 16 May 2017
at 04:41
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Condolences, Wrenn. For my part I don't feel it will be too much of an issue if your time needs to be prioritised elsewhere for a while. Gnomes are easily portable, after all. :)

Hope you get some quality rest.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 16 May 2017
at 09:55
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm sorry for your loss, Wrenn.  I agree with Brimir - get some rest :)

Brimir, I like your line of thinking however, as I understand it, the knight currently has its back to the word 'Example' and is facing the word 'The,' whilst the Woodland figure has it back to the word 'lead' and is facing the word 'entire'.  This means the knight is opposite the angel and the Woodland figure is opposite the Priest.

As it stands, there appears to be no reason not to try it though, unless we're limited by the number of actions we can take.

This message was last edited by the player at 09:55, Tue 16 May 2017.

GM
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Tue 16 May 2017
at 10:23
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn, take all the time you need.

You are not limited in actions, but I would prefer if you do not spam the IC with a wall of diagrams to spell out your steps. Take it one at a time.
Brimir
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Tue 16 May 2017
at 10:58
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
@Griswold - Ah, I was working on the configuration mentioned in post #194 of this thread, the one where the Woodland Figure 'normalised', if I read that right.

@GM - Understood; will walk through the steps one post at a time IC once we have a plan laid out. Thanks for the reminder to take it slowly, though, as I probably would have posted something nearer to a summary otherwise...

And apologies to everyone for spamming the OOC earlier. ;)
Kharash
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Tue 16 May 2017
at 11:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm sorry for your loss, Wrenn. Take all the time you need, indeed.
Kharash
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Tue 16 May 2017
at 11:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Like Griswold, I was under the impressions the word 'Example' was opposite of 'The'. However, the GMs post put the knight across of the woodland figure. Could you give us some clarification on this, GM?

Are the opposites really opposites? (Kingdom-Inspire, Example-The, To-By, Entire-Lead)

Or is there a different relation? (such as Kingdom-Inspire, Lead-Example, By-To, The-Entire)
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Tue 16 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I tried to place the opposites across from each other visibly. There correlation is more important than actual position.

Octagons are hard to do in RPOL.
Brimir
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Thu 18 May 2017
at 09:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Oh. I thought we had established that we were going one move at a time?

To my mind the idea was to see whether the first move fixed the reflections of the demon, and proceed along the words of the saying from there if it did -- or try something else if it didn't. But Brimir is not the most coordinated of individuals, so I'm happy to say he knocked over the demon or otherwise dislodged it. In the name of drama and suspense.

Anyone think we should stick the unicorn medallion in the woodland figure now that it's set? That's about the only idea I have, since I'm still stumped about the medallion-statuette combinations and my theory about placements has fallen over and sunk into the swamp. I'm dreadful under perceived time-critical situations; I always prefer turn-based over real-time strategy.
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Thu 18 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Okay, I thought you were going to move them in turn when nothing happened. I misunderstood what was going on.

Also, the woodland figure denormallizes when the knight is moved away from it.

This message was last edited by the GM at 09:24, Thu 18 May 2017.

Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 18 May 2017
at 11:03
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So, before Brimir moved anything the knight and the woodland figure were opposite each other?  I'm still confused as to whether that was or was not the case, sorry.

If so and if we put everything back as it was then, perhaps it is having the correct opposite figures that causes them to 'normalise' rather than the mirrors they stand between?  We could try moving both the knight and the woodland figure to other positions on the table, but making sure they they are still opposite each other.  Or we could try putting other assumed opposite statues across from each other?  Like this:

1: Moving knight and Woodland Figure:

                                     Knight
                          Elf                  Mage
                          Demon                Ogre
                          Angel                Priest
                                Woodland Figure



or

2: Placing opposites:

1st move:
                                      Mage
                          Woodland             Knight
                          Demon                Angel
                          Ogre                 Priest
                                      Elf

If the Demon and Angel, 'normalise' we could then try setting this up:

                                      Ogre
                          Woodland             Knight
                          Demon                Angel
                          Mage*                Priest*
                                      Elf

*Divine Magic vs Holy, maybe?  Education/Knowledge vs Blind Faith?
Kharash
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Thu 18 May 2017
at 12:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So, did Brimir's moves happen or not? I think it's fair to have had it happen, since you've already showed us the result, and we could gain quite some information out of those moves.
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Thu 18 May 2017
at 12:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
The layout in msg 192 was how it started.

The knight was moved opposite the woodland figure, at which point the woodland figure normalized.

The knight was moved back to its original position and you started talking about what to do next.

Brimir stated that he planned to rotate the knight around to see if any other statues normalized.

He was given the go ahead and stated that he started. Since he was only moving one figure at a time, he continued the action.

The timer started when he picked up the demon statue.

I had said not to spam a wall of text, so I can understand why only one action was assumed. At the time of the post, you had not yet activated the timer. You now have a countdown, though you haven't figured out how long it is yet.

I am ruling right now that Brimir has the demon statue in hand.
Kharash
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Thu 18 May 2017
at 12:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So we're at step 5 of Brimir's moves now? That's the step where the demon got moved.
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Thu 18 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Correct
Brimir
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Thu 18 May 2017
at 14:42
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Simple enough miscommunication, prompted by my over-enthusiastic discussion in the OOC here.  I think I may have misunderstood the placements, and definitely didn't put in an accurate enough description of the single move (I probably should have just posted the layout, but I didn't want to make the IC thread untidy), or checking to see that there was a change before continuing on. I didn't realise that the Knight had been moved back to its original position either, not that it makes a great deal of difference to the initial move.

I do apologise for the lack of clarity. Thank you for your patience, GM.

As Kharash has observed, we now have information we didn't previously -- that which is seen cannot be un-seen. So I had no intention of asking for a retcon regardless.

To the task at hand: I like Griswold's proposed opposition pairings. 'Faith vs Formula' is a solid juxtaposition. I guess we should try that in as few moves as possible, unless there are other suggestions that everyone things are worth trying first?

So we're currently at:

Demon - Brimir's Hand

                                   Statuettes
                                      Woodland
                          Knight               Ogre
                                               Mage
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf


So... Put the Demon back in its spot? Then if we swap Ogre and Woodland we can see if the opposition of Ogre and Elf normalises the two (and that puts Knight back opposite Woodland).


                                   Statuettes
                                      Ogre
                          Knight               Woodland
                          Demon                Mage
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf


IF that works, we can swap Angel and Mage.

Feel free to prompt Brimir in the IC when we've agreed on the next move.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 18 May 2017
at 15:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
That seems fine to me :)
Kharash
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Thu 18 May 2017
at 17:55
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sure, go ahead Brimir.

Although I suspect there is a different pattern behind this, at least this move will give us some insight.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:04, Thu 18 May 2017.

Brimir
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Thu 18 May 2017
at 22:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm eager to hear more of these suspicions. Am at work so will post when able.
Kharash
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Fri 19 May 2017
at 13:03
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
The woodland figure normalized even though it wasn't opposite of the knight, it was 2 steps counter-clockwise. Also the saying on the mirror basically says to lead and the rest will follow. To me this suggests that we have to find the next statue to normalize one at a time, continuously adding to what we already have.


                     [ Kingdom ]
                         mage

         [ Lead ]                 [ Example ]
         woodland                   knight


   [ By ]                                    [ To ]
    demon                                      ogre


          [ The ]                  [ Entire ]
            angel                     priest

                     [ Inspire ]
                         elf

This was the situation where the woodland figure normalized, it also denormalized upon removal of the knight, so the woodland figure is dependent on the knight. This could be the case for the next statue as well, it may be dependent on the normalized woodland figure.

We don't know yet to what extent the position on the table/in front of the mirror matters. What we do know is that even if it does (if the woodland figure is in the right spot) it still needs the knight to be in position.

I think we should work with what we already have, which are two correct positions. However, we have to find out if the normalization is dependent on only the location between statues, or if it also depends on the mirrors.

What I would therefore suggest it to put the woodland figure on the [ The] mirror spot, switching the woodland and angel to create this:

                   Statuettes
                     Angel
              Knight         Ogre
        Demon                      Mage
             Woodland       Priest
                      Elf               

Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 19 May 2017
at 15:08
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think its a good idea to test whether moving the knight and woodland figure pairing to another place opposite each other cause the woodland figure to unfreeze or not  However, I think you are moving far too many statues.  If you wanted to get the knight directly above the woodland, this would require less moves:

                   Statuettes
                     Mage
              Knight         Angel
        Demon                      Ogre
             Woodland       Priest
                      Elf

Sorry, if I am missing something behind your moves.

That said, I am still confused about the position of things.  GM, please could you confirm which statues are currently opposite each other, assuming the current layout is:

                     Mage
             Woodland       Knight
        Demon                      Ogre
             Angel          Priest
                      Elf

Are the opposites:
a)Mage & Elf, Woodland & Knight, Demon & Ogre, Angel & Priest
or
b)Mage & Elf,Knight & Angel, Ogre & Demon, Priest & Woodland

Btw Kharash - I hope your theory about having to find the next statue to freeze is wrong. If we have to find the correct statue 'freezing' order, then this puzzle cannot be solved logically.  It can only be solved by trial and error, which means it isn't really a puzzle at all.  Just a task to see how quickly we can move statues around the table.
GM
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Fri 19 May 2017
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
You are correct on the A layout.
Kharash
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Fri 19 May 2017
at 17:47
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
We're currently at:
Brimir:

                                   Statuettes
                                    Woodland
                          Knight               Ogre
                          Demon                Mage
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf



Though it seems I had different opposites in mind. In that case the knight and woodland figure were indeed opposite of each other, and it would then be a good idea to follow through with Brimir's original plan to do this:
Brimir:

                                   Statuettes
                                      Ogre
                          Knight               Woodland
                          Demon                Mage
                          Angel                Priest
                                      Elf

Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 19 May 2017
at 18:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
You are correct on the A layout.



Many thanks ^^
Brimir
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Fri 19 May 2017
at 21:14
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I just realised that I was -- somehow -- completely failing to visualise an octagon correctly.

Not my finest hour. But accurate role-playing of disadvantage on Intelligence rolls. :)

Happy to go with any suggestion, once there's a narrative prompt in the IC thread.
Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 19 May 2017
at 21:34
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Since Brimir is still holding the Demon, it would be quicker to do this:

                                   Statuettes
                                    Woodland
                          Knight               Ogre
                          Priest               Mage
                          Angel                Demon
                                      Elf

We can then see if we are correct about the Priest & Mage + Angel and Demon pairings.  And, if we are, we know that the Elf and Ogre will also pair up.
Kharash
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Sat 20 May 2017
at 12:23
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Go ahead Griswold :)
Brimir
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Thu 25 May 2017
at 01:21
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sorry everyone; ran into some issues with extra work and medical stuff. Back on deck now.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 25 May 2017
at 08:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
@GM - presumably there is currently no readily apparent lock to use the key on? (I am assuming one or more doors/whatevers will appear once we have the medallions correct).

@Everyone - I think we were all pretty much agreed on trying the rose medallion with the knight.  Should we try that next?
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Thu 25 May 2017
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You are correct. No apparent door or keyhole.
Brimir
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Thu 25 May 2017
at 21:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Kharash placed the rose medallion in the base of the knight statuette in post #204 of the IC thread. From that, it's probably still in there. No change noted from book or rose medallions in knight statuette.
Wrenn Muernig
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Fri 26 May 2017
at 00:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Concerning the medallions, is there any place for them to fit in that we've seen so far? Are they just sitting on the table, or is there a small nook or indentation that each of them sits in?
Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 26 May 2017
at 00:36
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Brimir:
Kharash placed the rose medallion in the base of the knight statuette in post #204 of the IC thread. From that, it's probably still in there. No change noted from book or rose medallions in knight statuette.


Right. I had forgotten.  Sorry and thanks. :)

Wrenn Muernig:
Concerning the medallions, is there any place for them to fit in that we've seen so far? Are they just sitting on the table, or is there a small nook or indentation that each of them sits in?


There is a place on the statues where they fit.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sat 27 May 2017
at 16:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Unless I missed a post further down, the last comment made regarding the medallions was mine below.

Griswold Ortmann:
Words aside, for the statues maybe we don't consider what they are as much as what they represent?

Knight holding nothing - Surely the Rose as they are seen as the 'Epitome' of knighthood - the ideal knight.  They therefore have no need to change?  Aka remaining the same in the mirror?

Elf with bow - Not sure.  Perhaps a vigilant sentinel?  the Watcher?

Ogre with maul - Something single-minded and unstoppable?  Dragon?

Angel with Glaive - A fighting saviour? Spring?

Demon with Scimitar - Something sinister and feared?  Ashen?
                    - Or simply something strange?  Golden Thread?

Mage with Staff - A learned man?  Quill?
                  If taken at face value - Ashen?

Priest with Holy Symbol - One dedicated to their beliefs? Quill?
                        - An Inquisitor Maybe?  Ashen?

Woodland figure with Longsword - A tracker maybe?  Coin?

Again, the Ashen Order, if we're thinking along the right lines, is causing me issues.  This time the Golden Thread too.  My thoughts with the Demon linked to the Golden Thread is that the Order is the only without a focus on protecting some part of Krieghold.  They are all about adventure and, in fact, actively encourage people to place themselves in danger.  Of lesser importance is that, for a real life comparison, scimitars are a foreign weapon for a knight, which might mean the demon comes from foreign lands?

If we assume the Ashen Order's Medallion is the Book, then I guess I get:

Order
Symbol
Medallion
Statue
Coin
None/Ring of Medallions
Jester
Woodland Figure
Ashen Order
Skull and Hourglass
Book
Mage
Quill
Golden Quill
Quill
Priest
Rose
Rose
Rose
Knight
Spring
Flowering Tree
Unicorn
Angel
Watchers
Eye
Eye
Elf
Dragon Legion
Dragon Head
Scales
Ogre
Golden Thread
Ship
Ship
Demon



We spent a long time discussing the medallions before we got to moving the statues and nothing new is glaring at me form the placement of the statues with regards to the medallions.  So, unless, someone has a better idea, I think we need to start experimenting with them.  Are we okay with my last suggestion, or do we want to try something else?

One of the different combinations before saw the demon statues paired to the jester.
Wrenn Muernig
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Sat 27 May 2017
at 17:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sounds like a plan to me.
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Wed 31 May 2017
at 07:10
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Does anybody need clarification or have any further questions?
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 31 May 2017
at 07:47
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think I am okay, sorry for not posting earlier. :)
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Wed 31 May 2017
at 08:49
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No worries. Now begins the fun part since the danger of the room has been revealed. I've been looking forward to it, in a creative reveal way, not because I want you guys to get killed.

*evilly steeples fingers*
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 31 May 2017
at 08:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Uh, I am sorry but I cannot edit my character sheet.  Where would you like me to record my current hp?
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Wed 31 May 2017
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We can keep it in the Prepared Spells and Abilities thread. I'll change it to a current Status thread.
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 31 May 2017
at 09:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Righto.  HP added and updated.  Thanks :)
Brimir
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Wed 31 May 2017
at 20:09
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Apologies, I've not been well and my wife has had some health complications. I will endeavour to post soon.
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Fri 2 Jun 2017
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Take what time you need, Brimir. The family will always come first over this game.
Kharash
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Fri 2 Jun 2017
at 19:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Excuse me for not posting earlier, had a really busy week.

So the archer is behind the glass of the mirror?

What puzzles me a bit is that the book medallion has been in the knight statue, with not apparent effect. Although at that point the knight was in the 'wrong' position, so maybe the medallion check only happens if the statues are aligned?
Brimir
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Fri 2 Jun 2017
at 21:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Could be that the key needed to be manifest (and possibly taken from the table), as you suggest. Or the Knight may be a neutral piece, benefactors of the tourney as they are.

So the elf represents the order of Spring. Any suggestions other than the unicorn medallion?

I say we leave the fireball trap mage until nearer the end. :)

Very cool setup, too, GM. I can see why you were looking forward to us discovering the next step.

I'm on holidays now for a week, but travelling so not sure how frequently I'll get access. Thanks for your understanding about the delays everyone.
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Sun 4 Jun 2017
at 14:20
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I would like to say that you all are handling the situation much better than my tabletop group. I had this set up with actual coins and minis on my table. They were not allowed to inspect, touch, or do anything physical to the setup unless they were in character. I repeated this several times and told them anything to do with the minis was going to IC.

So what did they do? Immediately did the mix and match method. It did not turn out well for them until they actually looked and thought about the placement and relationships.

Good on you guys for the avoidance on TPK decisions so far.

BTW, the first group that went is a direct reflection of my tabletop game.
Kharash
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 12:18
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Haha, that's pretty funny!

So do you use the same world for both rpol and RL games? There's been quite some player input in this game, do you transfer that to the RL version as well? And vica versa?


Also, did the mirror image disappear/change when Kharash removed the eye medallion?
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
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The mirror figure remains.

I integrate some, but not all. The knightly orders are in both.
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 21:09
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Sorry for the double post, but I had a quick question.

Has anyone here played on Roll20 before?
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 21:12
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I have.
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 21:26
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Any good?
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 21:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah, I like it quite a bit. It's more more suited, in my opinion, for live games than it is for play-by-post like this, but it's great for playing a live game with people in different locations.

Roll20 and RPoL are the two best sites I've found for playing D&D, or similar games, online.
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 21:36
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I've been interested in play testing some of the dungeons for this campaign on it, but have not used it before.
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 21:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I've got a live game with a couple that used to live close to us, but then moved about 2 hours away. We play live once every 4-6 weeks, and then we bring the game here in between live sessions. But, I'm considering moving it to Roll20 so that we can have things moving more swiftly.

The biggest drawback to PbP, in general, is how slowly things progress. When you've got no other means of playing, you take what you can get. Playing in real time is generally a more rewarding experience, though.
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 22:03
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I've played a few games in Rpol.  All play-by-post.  Mostly they just start and stop quite quickly.  Either the DM finds they don't have the time to deal with it, or player's just disappear.  However, I have been playing a 4E game here for a long time now and, like Wrenn says, it has been very slow paced.

I think play by post works much better for things like this puzzle room we have now because it gives people time to think things through and discuss things properly.  It works less well for combat, because each round takes a day or more to complete.


I use Roll20 for live games. Its pretty decent.
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 22:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Games that require you to think or to do a good amount of RP definitely tend to work better here. Pacing is still important, but it's not as bad for things to be slow outside of combat as it is mid-combat.

Yeah, the pacing is the thing that will kill an RPoL game faster than anything else (except drama). With combat-focused RPoL games, I like to reward full XP for monster kills rather than dividing it among the group to help give that sense of progression. So if a monster would give 400 XP and you divide it by 5 players so they each get 80, I just give everyone the 400 XP. Unless it's a game set up to teach people how to play, in which case I keep things slower.

I had to take a break from RPoL last year because of a back injury that kept me from spending time sitting in front of a computer, so I pulled out of all of my RPoL games. When I came back 9 months later, I looked those games up again to see which ones were still going. Of the 18 games I was in, only 4 of them were still going. Of those 4, 2 of them moved along really well. One of the others had finished the dungeon I left about 75% into it, and had made it back to town in those 9 months.

The forth game didn't have the game threads visible if you weren't an active player, and my character had been taken over by another player so I left it alone. That GM posted in the LFP board last week and my original character was open so I took it over this week. It's now been 14 months since I left that game, and they have literally moved one room further into the dungeon than when I left the game. 1 room in 14 months. My mind was seriously blown when I went to get caught up on things and saw where we were.

This message was last edited by the player at 22:54, Mon 05 June 2017.

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Mon 5 Jun 2017
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That being said, how am I doing with this game so far? I am trying to adapt to players leaving and new players joining, but the entire festival was designed for a single long session, maybe two shorter ones in RL. As a new DM, I am learning that some things don't translate well here.
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 23:02
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think it has been great so far :)  You've been very responsive and kept everything ticking over.  Although, it is possible some of the confusion we had with regards to the layout of this room might have been cleared up with a simple diagram.  Just a thought!
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 5 Jun 2017
at 23:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think you're doing fine with the game so far.
Brimir
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Tue 6 Jun 2017
at 09:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think you're doing a good job of keeping everything moving, GM, especially in light of the ebb and flow of player momentum. For that matter, I feel the players are doing a fairly good job of covering each other as posting rates vary.

I've not played online via any other medium than RPoL, so I can't add anything to that part of the conversation.

When the tabletop group was mentioned, I did wonder whether the first group was a reflection of their progress. I appreciate their noble sacrifice in allowing us to learn from their mistakes, if only by being a clear example of how perilous this trial could actually be.
Kharash
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Tue 6 Jun 2017
at 11:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think you're doing great!

PBP games are indeed very different. Players come and go, and it simply takes a very long time to do anything. Although that 14 months for 1 room does sound extreme, Wrenn!

I've played via PBP for a year or 2 now (I think?), and I've found that it helps to just accept those things as sort of laws of nature.

The only thing you can do really, is to remove any factors that slow down the game. Things such as the DM rolling for everyone's initiative simply saves you 1-2 days. And I personally think it's ok for a DM to push things a lot more in PBP games. I have the feeling there will always be opportunities for role-play during posts, no matter whether you're standing still deciding what to do or if you're in a time-based challenge such as the puzzle we're doing now.

I've always been curious about roll20 and similar websites. I'm mainly interested in the exploration of those maps, with the dynamic lighting. Although it does look like a lot of work for the DM to set up.
Kharash
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Tue 6 Jun 2017
at 11:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Let's discuss what statue-medallion combination we should try next. This is what we have so far. Table from Griswold's post, with the angel taking the elf's place, and the book / jester possibility still open due to Wrenn's INT check.

Order
Symbol
Medallion
Statue
Rose
Rose
Rose
Knight
Spring
Flowering Tree
Unicorn
Elf
Quill
Golden Quill
Quill
Priest
Watchers
Eye
Eye
Angel
Dragon Legion
Dragon Head
Scales
Ogre
Golden Thread
Ship
Ship
Demon
Coin
None/Ring of Medallions
Book / Jester
Woodland Figure
Ashen Order
Skull and Hourglass
Book / Jester
Mage


If we're going to do this statue by statue, we want to avoid being burned by (demonic) fire. So the mage and demon are last (and hopefully their medallions will be obvious by finding the others first). This leaves the angel, priest, ogre, and woodland figure.

Each statue may have multiple medallions that could fit. So far I can think of these:

Angel
1. Eye           - the Watchers are the only religion-based group
2. Book/jester   - the Coin, related to death, guidance to after-life

Priest
1. Eye           - the Watchers are the only religion-based group
2. Book/jester   - the Coin, related to death, guidance to after-life
3. Quill         - protectors of knowledge, such as the holy script

Ogre
1. Scales        - the only 'monstrous' statue

Woodland figure
1. Book/jester   - the Coin, searching for the fallen knights


Based on this I'd suggest we start with either the angel or priest. If we start with the ogre or woodland figure, and it isn't that one medallion then we're left to simply guess...

What do you think?
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 6 Jun 2017
at 13:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Kharash:
Based on this I'd suggest we start with either the angel or priest. If we start with the [snip] woodland figure, and it isn't that one medallion then we're left to simply guess...


Umm, the book and jester are separate medallions.

That said, happy to try the angel and eye next :)
Brimir
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Tue 6 Jun 2017
at 22:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm happy to pursue any option; on the plus side, once we get a wrong combination we can see the figure in detail in the mirror, which should reveal the Order they're associated with and ensure we're on the right path. So if we've wrongly associated, say, the Ogre statuette with the Order of the Dragon, we should be able to see our error and compensate.

Based on that I'd even be inclined to pursue the ones we're more confident with first (such as said ogre).
Wrenn Muernig
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Tue 6 Jun 2017
at 23:45
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
That sounds like a perfectly sound plan to me.
Brimir
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Thu 8 Jun 2017
at 08:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm happy to post a combo, but I suspect I may have clouded the issue; final votes for the next set?
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 8 Jun 2017
at 10:49
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I don't know, nor really care that much tbh.  The trouble is that the medallions can be interpreted in so many ways and there are logical arguments for a host of different combinations.

I do like Kharash's idea about trying to solve statues that we are less frightened of first, though I kinda disagree that the angel is one of those.  Symbolism aside, they are powerful entities.

This message was last edited by the player at 10:53, Thu 08 June 2017.

Kharash
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Thu 8 Jun 2017
at 22:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
True, the angel statue could be very dangerous as well.

You have a point Brimir - go ahead with the ogre :)
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Fri 9 Jun 2017
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I'm going to need an action soon.
Brimir
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Fri 9 Jun 2017
at 23:11
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Done. Thanks for the forbearance everyone. My wife fell ill on our holiday and then a few wrong turns and stops added another two to three hours to what was already something like a nine-hour drive across country.
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Sat 10 Jun 2017
at 11:03
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I hope she is better. Take whatever time you need for family and that goes for all of you. Just give me a heads up if you can.
Brimir
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Sat 10 Jun 2017
at 14:02
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
She's recovering, thank you; probably another day or two on the mend. I had expected to be online sooner.

@GM - How 'common' is the knowledge about the Knightly Orders and other information in the 'Knowledge about the world of Arathia' thread? I've been erring on the side of ignorance for Brimir, but is it appropriate for any/all of us to have an idea of the Orders, their symbolism and general purpose?

@Players - I know we still have six (five?) to go, but I can't help feeling a sense of achievement for the group after getting that one right. To my understanding of the scene we don't actually have a Knight in any of the mirrors, so we can try re-slotting the Rose medallion now that this phase of the puzzle has been activated. Hopefully that stands as correct, which leaves us with 5 to go.

Order
Symbol
Medallion
Statue
Rose
Rose
Rose
Knight
Spring
Flowering Tree
Unicorn
Elf
Dragon Legion
Dragon Head
Scales
Ogre
Quill
Golden Quill
Quill
Priest
Watchers
Eye
Eye
Angel
Golden Thread
Ship
Ship
Demon
Coin
None/Ring of Medallions
Book / Jester
Woodland Figure
Ashen Order
Skull and Hourglass
Book / Jester
Mage


Brimir's IC reasoning for the Angel was intentionally simplistic; as a player I'm inclined to leave that kind of hurt for later.

If we're looking at the Woodland Figure next as the least threatening, I'm still feeling like the figure has a sense of 'explorer' about it, which is more in line with the League of the Golden Thread (Ship medallion). I'm happy to take the hit to test this theory, if everyone else is willing. If I'm wrong, we should get some idea from the figure's adornment about which order they're part of.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sat 10 Jun 2017
at 15:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well done with the Ogre statue :)  Sounds like Griswold could have been crushed if you'd gotten it wrong!

I don't know about the Woodland figure.  To be honest, I'm thoroughly confused.  Every time I try to come up with a solution I feel is correct, I end up with a tonne of different options.

For example, from what's left, the Angel, Priest or Woodland figure could all represent the Watchers.  The Angel because both are allied with Gods and the Angels watch from on high.  The Priest because both are innately religious.  The Woodland figure because Watchers are travellers of the world and are also known as The Eyes of the World Tree.

The Angel itself could represent the Quill - both are guardians of their respective realms who judge whether people are worthy to enter.  The Watchers.  Or the Coin as both are associated with the dead.

The Woodland figure could represent the Watchers, the Coin (if considered a tracker), or the Golden Thread (if considered a traveller).

However, I find it very difficult to NOT associate the demon with the Golden Thread.  Mostly because I cannot see where else it would fit.  The only other other option in my eyes is the Ashen Order, who are viewed with fear.  But the mage makes too much sense for them.  I am fairly sure the ship also matches up with the Golden Thread (as you appear to agree).  So that means the demon and ship would go together, if my logic is correct.

Taking the ship out of the equation, the only medallion that's left which would seem to make sense for the Woodland figure is they Eye, so I would suggest trying those may be.

And yes I am well aware that every suggestion I make comes back to the Eye medallion >.<
Brimir
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Sat 10 Jun 2017
at 16:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Seems like we need to find a home for that Eye medallion ;).

Something to bear in mind (just to add more uncertainty to the mix) is that we have no certainty that the Watchers are included in the eight. There are 7 Orders and this puzzle is set by/for the Helmets of the Rose; unless there is some history of alliance between the two groups, why set a space for the Eyes of Yggdrasil?

I feel like the Demon and the Jester medallion could just as easily fit the eighth 'non-Order' spot as blanks or red herrings. I'm curious as to why there are eight sides to this room/puzzle in the first place.

As it is, I too see possible arguments for a variety of combinations for the remaining Orders. The only plausible tie I can see to the Golden Thread being attached to the Demon is the Demon actually being a ship's figurehead. Or maybe as descendants of the Argonauts they have a reputation as monster-hunters.

It looks as though there will be some point where we have to resort to trial and error, probably for a couple of the statuettes. So the question is: which type of failure do we feel most comfortable in enduring the consequences for? The archer was a Dex save to mitigate some of the damage; the Ogre is an unknown on that front. What kind of punishment are the others likely to deal out, and who's best equipped to weather it?

Also I've a feeling that despite Griswold's valiant efforts, given the description that the Elf could target anyone in the room, whoever is handling the statuettes/medallions is going to be the one who is on the receiving end of the consequences for failure.

Maybe it would be more sensible to start with the Priest and the Quill medallion, then? Followed by the book medallion, if that fails, or possibly the Eye medallion.

But I remain curious about the Woodland figure; my vote is still to try that one next.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 114 posts
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Sat 10 Jun 2017
at 16:41
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Brimir:
The only plausible tie I can see to the Golden Thread being attached to the Demon is the Demon actually being a ship's figurehead. Or maybe as descendants of the Argonauts they have a reputation as monster-hunters.


Before I gave some reasoning behind the demon.  Here's a recap since it was some time ago now: it is an 'outsiders' and it wields a scimitar.  The Golden Thread are somewhat adverse to the other orders in that they are not really interested in the protection of the kingdom, but actively encourage people to place themselves in danger.  They also travel to strange and exotic places and, traditionally at least, a scimitar is a foreign weapon not a knightly one.

Brimir:
Also I've a feeling that despite Griswold's valiant efforts, given the description that the Elf could target anyone in the room, whoever is handling the statuettes/medallions is going to be the one who is on the receiving end of the consequences for failure.


Yeah, but its in character for him to try.  Plus I was hoping that my interference might at least cause some problems for the trap.  Perhaps mitigating some damage or offering cover against an attack roll, if one was required.

Anyway, I like the idea of the 8th group being the Watchers.  Imo, they are at least the best option from what we know of the world atm.

And I'm fine with trying the Woodland figure and the ship next, if that's what you want.  I've just been associating the ship and demon together for a while now.
Brimir
 Player, 43 posts
Sat 10 Jun 2017
at 17:07
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Griswold Ortmann:
Before I gave some reasoning behind the demon.  Here's a recap since it was some time ago now: it is an 'outsiders' and it wields a scimitar.  The Golden Thread are somewhat adverse to the other orders in that they are not really interested in the protection of the kingdom, but actively encourage people to place themselves in danger.  They also travel to strange and exotic places and, traditionally at least, a scimitar is a foreign weapon not a knightly one.


Ah, thank you for the reminder. I had indeed completely forgotten. :)

I wouldn't dream of suggesting that Griswold not continue his valiant attempt to defend the others from the mirrors. It reflects well on his character.

Since the Eye medallion seems open to most of the statuettes, given that all of the orders have to be vigilant in one way or another, I've no objection to splitting the difference and trying the Eye with the Woodland Figure (or any other combination really, but we do need to choose something).
Kharash
 Player, 109 posts
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Sat 10 Jun 2017
at 22:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well done on the ogre!

I'd say let's try the priest next. It's  (perhaps naively) less dangerous than the other statues and we have at least two good options for the medallions. The angel is more dangerous but could be a good statue to figure out after the priest, since they share possible medallions (so one will be ruled out by completing the priest).

The woodland figure, I agree, is still confusing (joker?) and the mage and demon just plain dangerous.
Brimir
 Player, 44 posts
Sat 10 Jun 2017
at 23:34
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So... Priest plus Quill to start with? Or book?
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 12 Jun 2017
at 01:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Try the Quill first?  Of the two options, that seems less likely to belong to one of the other statues (I think the book has a good chance of belonging to the mage).
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 12 Jun 2017
at 01:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Agreed
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Tue 13 Jun 2017
at 21:55
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Currently placed an ad looking to pick up players for Eli and Brother Sul. The characters were too good not have participated. If you know anyone interested, please let me know.

Update coming later today. As I understand it, you chose the Priest and the Quill.
Brimir
 Player, 46 posts
Tue 13 Jun 2017
at 22:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Correct. Priest plus Quill. Because monks do excellent calligraphy.

Any word on how much about the knightly Orders in the Info thread is common knowledge, GM?
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Tue 13 Jun 2017
at 22:34
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Sorry! Lost track of the request.

Assume that anything in the Common Knowledge thread is what any reasonably educated person would know. Some of the finer details, like the Watchers history, will be betond layfolk. The thread represents what you could discover and be expected to know simply from bards and tavern stories. There are enough retired and would be adventurers to make it commonplace knowledge.

I would expect a revamp of the religions and a more detailed history in the coming weeks.
Brimir
 Player, 47 posts
Tue 13 Jun 2017
at 22:42
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Brilliant! Thanks so much. :)

EDIT: Also, that was a combination I hadn't expected. After this I'd say maybe:

Angel - Quill
Mage - Book
Woodland - Eye
Demon - Jester

But I'm open to further thoughts. Maybe Mage + Book after everyone's recovered, since we seem to agree it's likely that or the Quill?

This message was last edited by the player at 03:20, Wed 14 June 2017.

Kharash
 Player, 111 posts
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Wed 14 Jun 2017
at 10:00
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Didn't expect the ship either.. I'd say try the angel and woodland figure next. For safety reasons :)
Kharash
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Wed 14 Jun 2017
at 10:59
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Interesting transition!

Which image in the mirror is in front of which statue on the table?

And just to clarify, there wasn't a knight image before, right? So there are now 5 knight images (and 5 mirrors with keyholes)?
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Wed 14 Jun 2017
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Correct, there are currently 5 knights, the priest, the elf, and the ogre.

Don't worry about the position of the figures in the mirrors to the statues. I will let you know now it has no bearing on the puzzle. I don't want you fretting over too many details. What is important is that you have placed them correctly on the table and made a couple of errors for placing medallions.

That's all I have for now unless there are more questions on clarification.
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 14 Jun 2017
at 11:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So we have to pick the correct mirror from the 5 with keyholes and, had we gotten everything 100% right from the start, there would only be 1 (or at least a lot less) to choose from?

Oh dear >.<

Do the words above the mirrors or around the table have any bearing on this and is the key on the table solid now?

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Kharash
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Wed 14 Jun 2017
at 12:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Perhaps completing the other statues will eliminate the wrong knight images?
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Wed 14 Jun 2017
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All I will say is that words have meaning. If I get too far into it, I'll give away the answer.

As for the mirrors, you can try to eliminate more options or risk a wrong "door".
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 14 Jun 2017
at 19:49
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Okay cool.  Thank you.  :)

In which case, my vote would be to try to eliminate more options.  Happy to try the Woodland + Eye.  Though every suggestion I have made on this stage has been wrong so far >.>
Brimir
 Player, 49 posts
Thu 15 Jun 2017
at 00:33
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm up for continuing with the combinations as well. The idea of a time limit has me a tad anxious but I think it's better to narrow our options.

EDIT: I believe Kharash already picked up the key after we organised the statues. Is that right? (On my phone and having difficulty checking.)

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Thu 15 Jun 2017
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No one currently has the key.

On a separate note, a replacement player for Eli has joined and we are getting him caught up on everything.
Brimir
 Player, 51 posts
Thu 15 Jun 2017
at 07:30
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So Brimir chose:

Eye + Woodland Figure

Hope everyone's okay with me continuing down that path; trying to keep things moving a bit. Though part of me suspects we've used all of our eight chances and just have to pick now. Do we know which mirrors/words have knights under them?

Splendid to hear there's a new player for Eli, too!

P.S. High five at Griswold. Winning combo! ;)

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Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 15 Jun 2017
at 23:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Cool.  So, I'd still rather we try another combination or two and I think now might be the time to risk the mage and the book.  Or we go Angel and...something.  I have no strong opinion on the paired medallion for that, so whatever everyone else wants to try is fine with me.

As for the keyholes:

Arguments can be made for all the words.  The Rose's kinda saved the Kingdom and are an example for all other knights.  'To' is kinda weird but actually still fits because it takes you somewhere - e.g. A to Z and Roses are leader-like.

However, 'Inspire' is a specific tenant of the Order of the Rose, so I'd suggest trying that door.

As an aside - Kingdom seems like an obvious trap to me, as the most important feeling word.  Basically for people that don't know any better.

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Brimir
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Fri 16 Jun 2017
at 01:39
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I was thinking along the same lines key-wise. Either 'Inspire' for the relevance or 'To' because a doorway is always 'to' somewhere (or nowhere), and it's a cute twist. But my bet would be 'Inspire'.

Any votes for combinations aside from Mage + Book?

Otherwise I'd suggest Angel + Quill, because my gut feeling is that will be a single-target consequence rather than an area affect.
Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 16 Jun 2017
at 02:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ah, I'm so dumb.  Angel + Quill.  Quills are made from feathers.  Angel wings are made from feathers.  Perhaps a coincidence, or perhaps something so obvious I overlooked it.
Wrenn Muernig
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Fri 16 Jun 2017
at 15:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think we need to get Mage/Book out of the way. If the mage is wrong, it has some of the strongest potential to be bad for us. I'd rather not let other things whittle us down and then the mage come through and blow us all up at the end if we happen to be wrong.
Brimir
 Player, 53 posts
Fri 16 Jun 2017
at 21:59
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
The theory I was working under was that if we leave the Mage until last, then the only medallion left will be correct by the process of elimination. So no danger of getting that one wrong (just all of the others).
Eli Reiner
 Player, 42 posts
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Fri 16 Jun 2017
at 22:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I've been struggling with a way to jump into the narrative but I'm not seeing any openings. Has Eli been with you the entire time? Also, can someone explain to me this current puzzle?
Brimir
 Player, 54 posts
Sat 17 Jun 2017
at 00:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Heh, from what I recall Eli failed to show before the group entered the magical doorway. There was some implication that he may have overindulged in wine, women, and/or song the night before -- but what particular deeds of derring-do (or derring-don't) kept him from joining the morning assembly weren't established.

As for the puzzle... we started in an octagonal room with eight mirrors (each with a word engraved above them), and an octagonal table with eight statuettes and eight medallions on it (each statuette having a slot for a medallion in the base).

The first stage seemed to involve finding the right opposite pairings for the statuettes. In rearranging them we activated a timer of sorts, something of a mechanical clicking sound but nothing we could see.

Once the statuettes were correctly paired a key materialised in the centre of the table. Our next phase involved correctly matching the medallions to the figurines; each figure seems to represent a member of a knightly order or other organisation (specifically, the Eyes of Yggdrasil). Each figure, when slotted with a medallion, manifests an image in one of the mirrors. When the pairing is wrong, there tends to be a negative consequence (in essence, it activates a trap); fortunately for us, when the figures appear in the mirrors the markings of their Order are fairly clear so it's easy to make a correction. We haven't figured out a reliable way of identifying each figure's association before we experiment with a medallion.

After getting three statuette/medallion combinations correct (arguably four), the blank mirrors filled with images of a knight, and keyholes appeared in each knight-mirror. We are opting to try to eliminate more images by pairing more medallions and statuettes, in order to ensure that we get the correct 'door'.

So far we have (the correct combinations being in bold):

Order
Symbol
Medallion
Statue
Rose
Rose
Rose
Knight
Spring
Flowering Tree
Unicorn
Elf
Dragon Legion
Dragon Head
Scales
Ogre
Golden Thread
Ship
Ship
Priest
Watchers
Eye
Eye
Woodland Figure
Quill
Golden Quill
Quill
Angel?
Coin
None/Ring of Medallions
Book / Jester
Mage?
Ashen Order
Skull and Hourglass
Book / Jester
Demon?


Oh, and the words above the mirrors could be rearranged to form the sentence 'Lead By Example To Inspire The Entire Kingdom'. The remaining mirrors which bear keyholes have the words 'Kingdom', 'To', 'Inspire', and 'Example'.

Which suggests that the Rose + Knight combination of medallion and statue either didn't take because we did it before we had arranged the statuettes, or the Knight isn't giving anything away because the puzzle belongs to the Knights of the Rose and it's fun for them. ;)

I'm feeling more like Angel + Book might also be a valid combination (for the Coin, being a register of the dead kept by an agent of Heaven), too. And the Mage + Quill for the Order of the Quill. Leaving the Ashen Order with the Demon statuette and... the Jester?

So, basically still no clue.

Wrenn seems to be inclined towards the idea of the Mage + Book next, my vote is for the Angel + Quill/Book, Griswold seems to be open to either.

Any other thoughts?

If you're keen to jump in Wrenn, by all means go ahead. Brimir will hand you what you ask for; he's pretty clearly trained toward that. Otherwise I'll post tonight when I'm on my night shift (about twelve hours or so).

Does that work for everyone?
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 123 posts
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Sat 17 Jun 2017
at 00:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Brimir:
I'm feeling more like Angel + Book might also be a valid combination (for the Coin, being a register of the dead kept by an agent of Heaven), too. And the Mage + Quill for the Order of the Quill. Leaving the Ashen Order with the Demon statuette and... the Jester?


Now that you mention it, I think that argument for the angel has come up before.  I had just forgotten about it.  Regardless of the Mage & Angel options, the Demon + Jester seems neart certain.  We could just try that to get it out of the way.  If it as we think, that leaves a 50/50 on the last pairings.
Eli Reiner
 Player, 43 posts
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Sat 17 Jun 2017
at 09:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wouldn't it have been simpler to just knock them all down then just walk through the only door that actually led anywhere?

Surely we have a guy with a big fuckin mace in our party, right?

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Griswold Ortmann
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Sat 17 Jun 2017
at 10:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Maybe :D  Truthfully, it never even occurred to me.

However, if that had been a serious suggestion, I think there would have been some serious misgivings:

- We didn't know how to get out.  The door could have been anywhere, or no where.  Just happened to be one of the mirrors.
- We don't know where we are.  We got here by stepping through a portal.  Could be a pocket plane or something for all we know.
- The first group returned from their test very beaten up.  A couple near death.  We wanted to avoid that.
- We had an ogre with us to make sure we (read: "I") didn't cause any more problems.
- Superstition?  Dunno if 7 years bad luck for breaking a mirror exists in this world, but if it does I think such beliefs would hold a lot more sway than irl, due to the existence of magic, gods, fey, demons, etc.
- The place is *highly* magical.  There were no keyholes in the mirrors and now there are.  There was no key and now there is.  Magical figures appeared.  Admittedly, all this was discovered later.
Brimir
 Player, 55 posts
Sat 17 Jun 2017
at 15:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I believe Brother Sul of the Fancy Hammer fills that criterion for our party.

No smashing occurred for all the reasons Griswold said, pretty much. Also I forgot to mention that the mirrors were clearly magical from the start, as each one was reflecting a different pose or other details of the statuettes; that was a fair clue something was up beyond a concealed door.

Besides, busting up all the mirrors would have been rather ungracious as guests in the magical dimension, and somebody would have had to come and clean up the mess. I'm not sure leading by that example would inspire the right elements of the kingdom, either, but I'll grant there are different paths to each end. ;)

For some reason I'm more afeared of the Demon than I am of the Angel. Despite the distinct possibility of a flaming sword (glaive), angels are less directly linked with fiery doom.

I'm beginning to suspect that Brimir has a deep-seated fear of fire.

Next combination: Angel + Quill.

Apologies to all in advance if the results are less than heavenly.
Eli Reiner
 Player, 44 posts
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Sat 17 Jun 2017
at 19:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well I'm a "thinking outside the box" kind of guy (like the fighter from Journey Quest in the Temple of All Deaths). When you play by someone else's rules you resign yourself to external validation. But seeing as how I wasn't there at the start of the puzzle and it seems you already mostly solved it, I'll keep my wild solutions to myself until the next puzzle.
Brimir
 Player, 57 posts
Sat 17 Jun 2017
at 20:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
But I love external validation!

(That's okay, right?)
Eli Reiner
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Sat 17 Jun 2017
at 22:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
To each his own I suppose.

(No. No it's not.)
Brimir
 Player, 58 posts
Sat 17 Jun 2017
at 22:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Heheh.. Validation from authority figures is like gold to Brimir. Something to do with being drafted young and then entering service as a domestic for years, I guess. Perhaps he lost his parents young. Could there be a link to that lightly-repressed fear of fire?

Sorry to get you lightly scorched there as well, Griswold. So this is the Order of the Coin's figurine; based on Wrenn's profound wisdom, seems like the Book was the better choice after all.

quote:
The only confusion seems to be whether the Book Medallion could stand for the mages that the Ashen Order hunt or the Ledger of the Fallen that the Custodians of the Coin maintain.


But that's for him to impart.
Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 18 Jun 2017
at 03:30
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So G-man took some damage there, but that was more an inconvenient side-effect of an otherwise positive match, right? Just want to make sure I understand the situation here.
Brimir
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Sun 18 Jun 2017
at 04:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I read that as a failed pairing... damage is commensurate with the elf's arrow strike, and the angel is still on guard (as opposed to relaxed/neutral).

So I think the correct medallion is actually the Book (the "ledger of the fallen"), and it's *probably* then Quill + Mage and Jester + Demon.

Probably.
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Sun 18 Jun 2017
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I'll let everyone settle from this and post later.

Brimir's quick thinking transfers 2 dmg to himself. The rest is up to you guys. Also, say hello to Brother Sul's new player! We had a lot of interest and he was chosen.
Brimir
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Sun 18 Jun 2017
at 18:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome, chosen one! Looking forward to seeing Brother Sul back in play. :)
Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 18 Jun 2017
at 19:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome, new Brother Sul.

It was the combination of minimal damage but also healing from the blindness that had me uncertain as to whether that was a good match or bad.

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Brimir
 Player, 64 posts
Mon 19 Jun 2017
at 01:23
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Fair point, Wrenn. All the others have dropped their guard when we found the right combination, but I may be reading too much into that.

GM, is the medallion still burning hot? Or has the heat begun to subside somewhat?
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Mon 19 Jun 2017
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The medallion is still hot, but is cooling.
Brother Sul
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Mon 19 Jun 2017
at 13:06
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hello hello. Glad to be given the opportunity. ^,^ Looking forward to playing with you all.

I'll be taking over Brother Sul, with a few tweaks. Just taking some time to skim through the story thus far.

For combat I'll be taking a more backline caster role vs the front line tank.
While RP wising, trying for a learned man while keeping his... dour outlook? It should work. ^,^
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 19 Jun 2017
at 13:07
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Greetings :)
Brother Sul
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Tue 20 Jun 2017
at 00:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Unsure where/how to jump in, so i created something. Wanted something in now that i've caught up, but had no rolls to work with. Hopefully i'm not steering us wrong with the first words from the 'wise' man.
Kharash
 Player, 115 posts
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Thu 22 Jun 2017
at 08:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome!

As Brother Sul rejoins us, I will have to temporarily step out. I will be traveling for the next 5 weeks, and I'm unsure of how often I'll be able to check rpol. To not slow things down, I'm fine with the DM, or other players, controlling Kharash for now. I accept anything that may happen to him, as long as it is logical. If he dies because he was used as cannon fodder, that'd be a bit shitty ;)
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Fri 23 Jun 2017
at 15:29
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I will make sure Kharash dies heroically first chance I get ;)

In other news, we have lost Eli's player. They have bowed out. The party is fine for now and I will ask the few lurkers if they want at him.
Brimir
 Player, 66 posts
Fri 23 Jun 2017
at 20:47
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Good luck Kharash; happy travels!

We all appreciate your many impending noble sacrifices and generous refusal to share in accumulated wealth. ;)

EDIT: Sorry to hear we lost Eli's player.

Regarding the current scene, it might just be paranoia but I feel like the Mage's pointing is a freebie and that we need to make a choice very quickly.

This message was last edited by the player at 23:48, Fri 23 June 2017.

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Fri 23 Jun 2017
at 23:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
For those interested, the religion section in the Knowledge thread has been reworked. Shouldn't change anything major for people.
Brimir
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Sat 24 Jun 2017
at 17:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
quote:
Contest 2: Ruin

Contest Prompt: What happened to Xaril?


Presumably, since the title of the contest is 'Ruin', Xaril is/was a place? Do we have anything more to run with?
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Sat 24 Jun 2017
at 18:01
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It's on the game map. That's about it.
Brimir
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Sat 24 Jun 2017
at 18:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks. I was looking for info in the background threads instead. :)
Eli Reiner
 Player, 46 posts
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Mon 26 Jun 2017
at 23:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
We have our Half-Elf Rongue again gang, I am just getting caught up on the story.

*waves*
Brother Sul
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Mon 26 Jun 2017
at 23:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome. ^,^
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Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 17:25
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Alright. Let's get the final push to end the puzzle. It's almost at the end and you have done extremely well.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 17:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think Brother Sul's last post implied that he was going to try the key in a door.  Probably the one that Griswold suggested?

And welcome Eli's new owner ^^
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Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 17:49
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True, but which mirror?
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 18:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well Griswold suggested 'Inspire' and no one appears to have disputed that.  Guess its best for the player to say for certain though.
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Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 18:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Nothing happens when he picks up the key, so I need to know which mirror.
Brother Sul
 Player, 37 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 20:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
It was the inspire Mirror. Just got in to check.
Brimir
 Player, 70 posts
Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 22:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome, Eli's new player! (Belatedly.)
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Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 22:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Massive info dump in the knowledge thread. Be sure to check it out when you get a chance.
Brimir
 Player, 72 posts
Tue 27 Jun 2017
at 22:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thank you for all of the extra background, GM.

For future reference, was that an okay 'ready action' description? Specific enough, etc.?
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Wed 28 Jun 2017
at 20:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
That reaction is fine. Just so long as I have something to go off of.

In that same vein, if you have an action that you wish to perform, you can describe it to completion and I will stop it at any point along the way if required. PbP is hard enough without waiting for each step. I am the referee and can control the flow of time.

Also, would people be interested in me opening up the game for a few more players? Obviously it would not be one giant group, but I feel that I have enough of a grasp on the game mechanics and the flow that I can handle more. I want to know what you think.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 58 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Wed 28 Jun 2017
at 22:18
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Opening the game doesn't bother me.
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Thu 29 Jun 2017
at 00:15
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For those interested, I have opened another game. It is of a much different tone than this one. Check it out if you are interested.

link to another game
Brimir
 Player, 73 posts
Thu 29 Jun 2017
at 08:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm happy for more players, if that's what you'd like to do.

The new game looks like an interesting premise.
Brother Sul
 Player, 39 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Thu 29 Jun 2017
at 13:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
The new game definitly looks interesting. XD
Brimir
 Player, 74 posts
Fri 30 Jun 2017
at 02:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Awesome work everyone! I'm at work currently, hoping to get to post to night.
Brimir
 Player, 76 posts
Fri 30 Jun 2017
at 07:08
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hoping you'll forgive Brimir getting in your personal space there, Sul. No offense taken if there's a reactive elbow to the groin. Such a response would be perfectly understandable.
Brother Sul
 Player, 40 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Fri 30 Jun 2017
at 20:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Apologies, you can move on without me. Vacation without a good means to check roll. I'll try and get somethng but don't hold your breath.
Will be back Sunday.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 134 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Sat 1 Jul 2017
at 23:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sorry, I forgot to say that I was happy to have more players join too :)
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 135 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Mon 3 Jul 2017
at 17:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Author, are you okay with me using 2nd wind now, then taking a short rest in the tent and regaining its use?  It seems within the rules of the game but pretty cheesy at the same time, so np if not.  Thanks :)
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Mon 3 Jul 2017
at 18:16
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You are going to be healed. Don't worry about it.
Arizima
 Player, 1 post
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 07:02
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hi Everyone!

Arizima here (The Mad if you're feeling pithy.)  I'll be playing your friendly neighborhood Warlock coming all the way from Sirai, the coastal jewel of Dunnoth.

This message was last edited by the player at 19:29, Fri 21 July 2017.

Brimir
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Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 07:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome Arizima!
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Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 08:46
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Updates coming soon. If you want any specifics answered, let me know now.
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 1 post
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 15:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Fire mage here, but don't expect me to be to squishy, or book smart. I've been living in the wilds and trust my instincts above just about anything else. Oh, and I should appologize in advance to anyone who doesn't like their steak extra well done.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 137 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 15:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome both! :D

@GM you could tell us what the next trial is? >.>
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Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 16:06
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Good question. Would everyone like some more RP before the next trial or a cutscene describing up till then?
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 138 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 16:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
Good question. Would everyone like some more RP before the next trial or a cutscene describing up till then?


When a joke backfires...

I wasn't pushing to hurry up ^^ I was just poking for inside information.  I'd like to rp some more.  Also it seems like a good time to get Eli involved again, if he wants.
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Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 16:27
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Eli is on his own thread with some RP. He will get a chance to join back up.
Dragoon Brunya
 Player, 1 post
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 19:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well met. I'll be playing Brunya of the Dragon Legion. Dwarf Fighter, hammer in one fist and a battered shield in the other, I charge the front lines and stay there until the battle is won.
Brimir
 Player, 79 posts
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 21:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome Yefi and Brunya! I'm happy to RP a bit longer too, though I am curious about the next trial.
Roderic Morningbane
 Player, 1 post
 Knight Err...ant
 11/11 HP 18 AC
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 22:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Greetings all.  Your friendly neighborhood paladin of Wine, Song, and Revelry here.
Brimir
 Player, 80 posts
Thu 6 Jul 2017
at 22:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
They did release Roderick!

Welcome to the game. :)
Horgok Redbane
 Player, 1 post
Fri 7 Jul 2017
at 03:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Greetings Rune priest in the hooouse lol
Brimir
 Player, 81 posts
Fri 7 Jul 2017
at 03:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome Horgok!
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Fri 7 Jul 2017
at 09:19
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I'm going to do some house cleaning over the next week. If I could get everybody to send me a PM labeled [Character Name]'s Private Thread and place anything that you want saved long term in it, I would appreciate it. It was much easier to keep track of everyone when I had a few players, but now with twice as many, character name threads make it much easier to work with.
Brimir
 Player, 82 posts
Sat 8 Jul 2017
at 15:12
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn Muernig:
...Wrenn spoke out. "Roland? How much for the girl?"


Was anyone else reminded of the Blues Brothers when they saw this?
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Mon 10 Jul 2017
at 14:50
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RP thread is open for the new guys and gals. Still working with the last player RTJ, but you should get in the mood of your character while you wait.
Dragoon Brunya
 Player, 3 posts
Wed 12 Jul 2017
at 04:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Customs and immigrations, am I right? I've only ever seen one officer on duty in these places - even in major international airports! - so you have to wait in line for years, and when you finally get through, there's still literal miles to go before you're anywhere near the actual way out from the airport.
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Wed 12 Jul 2017
at 06:07
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World map added to the Knowledge thread
Brimir
 Player, 88 posts
Tue 18 Jul 2017
at 00:57
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sorry, life causing delays. Will post in the next few days.
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Wed 19 Jul 2017
at 15:29
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Moving the plots along in the next few hours. If you have a post you want to get in, now is the time.
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 6 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Wed 19 Jul 2017
at 16:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
"Lamp Posts! Get your Fence Posts heeeere! Every post, buy one get a surprise post free and one will be donated to a charity of your choice!"
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Thu 27 Jul 2017
at 08:20
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I took a spontaneous holiday and have been out the last week because of it. Should get back in the next few days and post updates. Cheers!
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 145 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Fri 28 Jul 2017
at 17:45
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Enjoy yourself :)
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Mon 31 Jul 2017
at 16:36
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Warehouse group: I am building your encounter map now. Please roll initiative in the meantime and post it here. If things go south, I want to be able to jump right into combat.
Arizima
 Player, 10 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 10/10 AC: 14 PP: 13
Mon 31 Jul 2017
at 16:42
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
10:42, Today: Arizima rolled 3 using 1d20+2.  Initiative.

Well that could have gone better.
Dint Yemkt
 Player, 7 posts
Mon 31 Jul 2017
at 17:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Arizima:
10:42, Today: Arizima rolled 3 using 1d20+2.  Initiative.

Well that could have gone better.


Like this?
quote:
Dint Yemkt rolled 18 using 1d20.  Initiative.


I am only teasing of course. Got a nice roll to start.
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 10 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Mon 31 Jul 2017
at 17:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
10:18, Today: Yefi Rasputin rolled 10 using 1d20+2.

How very mediocre.
Dragoon Brunya
 Player, 10 posts
 Dwarf Fighter
 HP: 13/13 AC: 16 PP: 10
Mon 31 Jul 2017
at 17:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Time to bust down some doors and politely but firmly instruct a group of lawbreakers to lay down their arms and come with us quietly before we are forced to incapacitate them through violent, possibly deadly force.

18:39, Today: Dragoon Brunya rolled 9 using 1d20.  Initiative.
Horgok Redbane
 Player, 4 posts
 Rune Priest
Tue 1 Aug 2017
at 04:08
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe

00:07, Today: Horgok Redbane rolled 16 using 1d20.  Initiative.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 65 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Tue 1 Aug 2017
at 18:34
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'd like to nominate Griswold for Inspiration from his RP.
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Tue 1 Aug 2017
at 19:08
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Noted.

Does anyone from the festival group wish to have RP interactions? I don't mind while we wait for RL to let a few people catch up. I don't want anyone to feel left out if I go down a rabbit hole with Griswold.
Brother Sul
 Player, 46 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Wed 2 Aug 2017
at 13:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm good. A lighter mood to Sul is all that will come of it. ^.^
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 147 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Wed 2 Aug 2017
at 14:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn Muernig:
I'd like to nominate Griswold for Inspiration from his RP.


:O Thank you!

GM:
I don't want anyone to feel left out if I go down a rabbit hole with Griswold.


No need for that - I am happy to move on. :) Unless you have something specific planned, ofc.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 66 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Wed 2 Aug 2017
at 16:00
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
My server incident at work has been kicking my butt, so I've been thankful for rabbit holes lately.
Dint Yemkt
 Player, 9 posts
Thu 3 Aug 2017
at 17:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe

quote:
13:05, Today: Dint Yemkt rolled 23 using 1d20+3.  Insight.


Good luck lying to me!!
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Thu 3 Aug 2017
at 17:23
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That's a good roll.
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 13 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Sat 5 Aug 2017
at 16:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Apparently watching youtube videos on negotiations helps the die roller.. also.. I fear for our lives when we get into combat and the scales turn.


09:14, Today: Yefi Rasputin rolled 25 using 1d20+5.  Persuasion.
Arizima
 Player, 12 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 10/10 AC: 14 PP: 13
Sat 5 Aug 2017
at 18:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Nice roll Yefi.

I guess that makes me the bad cop. :)
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 14 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Sat 5 Aug 2017
at 18:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
haha, originally I was thinking of approaching and casting friend's, but when I get a 20 anyway...
Arizima
 Player, 13 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 10/10 AC: 14 PP: 13
Sat 5 Aug 2017
at 18:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
With friends he just starts shouting as soon as we get distracted.  This way's much better.  Now he's too scaroused to do anything.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 67 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Sun 6 Aug 2017
at 21:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Another opportunity to piss off Roland? I'm game.
Brother Sul
 Player, 47 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Mon 7 Aug 2017
at 20:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
You have the blessings of the Silver Flame!
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 16 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Thu 10 Aug 2017
at 17:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Does Yefi have any sort of depth perception of the inside? How far away are the farthest longshoremen?
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Thu 10 Aug 2017
at 17:40
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It is about 30 yards to the other side of the building and the farthest longshoreman is about 25 yards from your door.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 70 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Sun 13 Aug 2017
at 03:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
My exchange student arrived from Spain today, so I'm going to spend a lot of time getting to know her this week. I should still have time to post off and on, but I may miss a day here and there as I'm caught up doing things with her and learning about her.
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 19 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Sun 13 Aug 2017
at 03:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Doxed: Hi Graak. /s

This message was last edited by the player at 03:41, Sun 13 Aug 2017.

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Mon 14 Aug 2017
at 05:53
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Sorry folks, RL is kicking my butt. I will catch up soon.
Horgok Redbane
 Player, 7 posts
 Rune Priest
Mon 14 Aug 2017
at 18:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hang in there! We have all been there once or twice--we will perform the "aid Other" action to give you Advantage!

Best!
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Tue 15 Aug 2017
at 17:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Something to keep the game flowing. I don't want to lose anymore players.
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Mon 21 Aug 2017
at 08:06
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Looking for Dint and Horgok replying before moving into the next update.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 158 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Mon 21 Aug 2017
at 09:33
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'd like to roll persuasion here, to convince the pair (mostly Farrissa tbh) that we are trustworthy, but my rolls in this area have been pretty poor so far.  Wrenn - anything you can do to give me advantage on the roll?

I'll make 2 rolls anyway and then the second can be considered if you can.

Thanks :)

EDIT: Okay the first roll was pretty sound.  Better than the 2nd at least but feel free to add something, Wrenn. I feel it would be good here :)

This message was last edited by the player at 09:37, Mon 21 Aug 2017.

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Tue 22 Aug 2017
at 06:41
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I'll rule that the Inspiration Wrenn voted for you to have is valid.
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Tue 29 Aug 2017
at 04:24
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Alright, serious post time.

1. Those in the Darkness thread, please post you actions for the night. This will serve to end the day and also act as roll call.

2. I think I am going to switch combat to a more theatre-of-the-mind style. It flows better for pbp and I will have less access to my map making technology over the next two months.

3. I will be doing a purge of characters in the next week or so. I have a couple who have not checked in for awhile and a few who have been gone longer than what they said they would be.

4. What would your preferred posting rate be? I can usually handle up to 3/week, but i want to poll the group.

Thank you for your time.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 74 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Tue 29 Aug 2017
at 04:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
3/week is fine for me, right now. Two jobs and now hosting an exchange student has seriously taxed my free time.
Arizima
 Player, 18 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 10/10 AC: 14 PP: 13
Tue 29 Aug 2017
at 04:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Whatever works for you is fine by me.  3/week should be enough to keep people engaged and active I think.
Dragoon Brunya
 Player, 16 posts
 Dwarf Fighter
 HP: 13/13 AC: 16 PP: 10
Tue 29 Aug 2017
at 05:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Agreed on the posting rate.

With regards to combat, perhaps we should switch to group-based initiative so we don't have to wait too long for everyone before us in initiative to act before we can post? Maybe also write down a "make attack/cast cantrip/take Dodge action" default tactical preference on our sheets in case we need to be run on auto-pilot at any point.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 161 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Tue 29 Aug 2017
at 09:13
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
3/week is fine :)
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 21 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Tue 29 Aug 2017
at 15:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
3 is fine
Brother Sul
 Player, 48 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Tue 29 Aug 2017
at 16:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
3 is fine.
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Thu 31 Aug 2017
at 18:36
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Okay, the consensus seems to be 3/week. Starting September 12, I will update on Tuesdays and Thursdays. If need be, I will update on Sundays but I don't hold the weekend against people.

Expect some more fluff for the world to come soon as well. The writing contest is still on since I have gotten no submissions.
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 22 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Fri 1 Sep 2017
at 01:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I will be out of town through late Monday night - should have internet from my phone to keep up, but it's also likely to be a bit stressful, so I'm not promising any content.
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Fri 1 Sep 2017
at 15:32
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No worries. We have plenty of time. I might have to consolidate the groups at some point though. We have lost Dint for the foreseeable future to RL. I will auto pilot him for now, but we likely have lost him. That puts us at three and four, with Brimir to hopefully return soon. Kharash has been gone longer than expected but I am not going to give up on him. Eli is 50/50 at this point.

This attrition is killer but we can make it work. I will be moving on to the next task soon for the Darkness folks and posting a response to the Road folks.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 76 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Fri 1 Sep 2017
at 16:06
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
It's the nature of the beast. You'll always lose people between May and September because of school schedules and vacations.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 77 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Sun 3 Sep 2017
at 22:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Just to verify, we are still level 1, right?
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Sun 3 Sep 2017
at 23:43
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Correct
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 79 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Fri 8 Sep 2017
at 02:07
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'll be gone this weekend. I'm heading down to Houston to help with clean-up efforts. May be too exhausted for Monday too, we'll see.
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Fri 8 Sep 2017
at 20:35
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I too have gone to Houston to help my folks with the relief efforts. Might be a few days between updates for a couple of weeks.
Brother Sul
 Player, 52 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Sat 9 Sep 2017
at 00:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Alls good. I'm sure they could use the help alot more than we need updates!

Stay safe out there!
Dragoon Brunya
 Player, 19 posts
 Dwarf Fighter
 HP: 13/13 AC: 16 PP: 10
Sat 9 Sep 2017
at 00:34
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah, I'd agree that these things take precedence over a D&D campaign. I hope everything works out with you and yours over there.
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Sun 10 Sep 2017
at 02:51
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Real life is giving me the one two punch. I'm cutting back most of my games and actually ending my other one.  I will still devote most of my attention here, but it might not be at the 3/week promised. Thank you for all being great players and story tellers! I really appreciate it.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 80 posts
 Gnome Wizard
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Tue 19 Sep 2017
at 00:07
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Get to us when you can, boss.
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Wed 20 Sep 2017
at 10:02
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Hey guys. I hope everything is going well with you. I'm thinking that I can get back into things in the next few days. If everyone could check with their respective threads and let me know what you need from me to move things along, I promise to have an update no later than the weekend. Thanks!
Brother Sul
 Player, 53 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Wed 20 Sep 2017
at 12:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome back!

And will do. ^,^
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 25 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Wed 20 Sep 2017
at 16:33
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I believe me and the dragoon are waiting on the foreman to obey (or get slaughtered).
Dragoon Brunya
 Player, 21 posts
 Dwarf Fighter
 HP: 13/13 AC: 16 PP: 10
Wed 20 Sep 2017
at 16:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
We can aim for the knees, can't we?

And nice to see you back!
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 166 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Thu 21 Sep 2017
at 08:58
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Good to hear from you, DM!
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Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 04:55
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Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it.

With player attrition a real concern, I have a question. Would the groups like to merge or stay separate. There are benefits to both but either way it will not effect the story lines I have set up. This is very much a sandbox game and I will only feed rumors and plot hooks. It will be up to the groups to decide what to do with them.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 82 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 14:39
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Who all do we have left, for sure? Some of the cast are clearly gone, have been for weeks, but do we have any on vacation or other notified absence that we're expecting to have back?
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Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 14:59
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Brimir has RL going on now, but has kept in contact via PM. He may rejoin later.

I am sad to see Kharash may not come back, as none of my efforts to contact the player have met with success. I might simply keep the character as an NPC.

Dint has bowed out. I will be removing him shortly.

I had high hopes for Eli but the player has been gone and no word when they are coming back. Eli might be gone for good.

That leaves Griswold, Wrenn, Sul, Brunya, Yefi, Horgok, and Arizima. It has been a minute since the latter two have posted, however.
Dragoon Brunya
 Player, 22 posts
 Dwarf Fighter
 HP: 13/13 AC: 16 PP: 10
Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 15:02
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'd like to resolve the scene we're in, and I don't have any insight into the goings-on in the other group or whether their plotline might suggest otherwise, but I think merging the groups as soon as possible is a good idea.
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 26 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 15:09
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm fine either way, merging seems to be the current preference, so let's go with that.
Brother Sul
 Player, 55 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 15:09
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Agreed. 5 out of 11 might seem terrible, but 5 is a proper group size anyway?

A combining would do well, though I am also unsure of the current plotlines in each. I'm not against pushing on till a good merging point exists. ^,^

Edit: Dwaaa. That pic for Yefi is adorbs. Update description? xD

This message was last edited by the player at 15:10, Fri 22 Sept 2017.

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Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 15:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Fortunately I can wrap up the Roads thread quickly and efficiently. Since there is no clear timeline between the two threads, I can easily have the Roads group join in with the Darkness group.

If I could get a yea or nay from the remaining players, hopefully we can join the two groups in the coming weeks and have a solid, stable group that I can post for regularly. :)
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 83 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Fri 22 Sep 2017
at 15:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
We've got almost perfect numbers for combining. I'm cool with that.
Arizima
 Player, 19 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 10/10 AC: 14 PP: 13
Tue 26 Sep 2017
at 20:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yea.

I was gone during the hiatus period mostly and was always just a little slower on the post than our more active players but I'm still here.  Hopefully that doesn't screw up any group composition up too much.
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 27 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Tue 26 Sep 2017
at 21:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I've had a really busy few days at work, I should be back to my normal checking in everyday within a few more days.
Horgok Redbane
 Player, 11 posts
 Rune Priest
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 00:25
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I am still about gang. I allow will be settling back into a normal posting schedule now.
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Mon 2 Oct 2017
at 11:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Real life has calmed down on my side. Expect the ability to resume our intended posting cycle of 3/week.

Everyone still good with that?
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 85 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Mon 2 Oct 2017
at 18:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yep
Brother Sul
 Player, 57 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Mon 2 Oct 2017
at 19:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yups.
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Sun 8 Oct 2017
at 12:06
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Alright Roads group, I'll give it till tomorrow and then update. Please have your actions in if you are still around.
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Sun 8 Oct 2017
at 19:47
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Everyone should have access to your sheets now. I decided that you can be the master of your fate. I trust everyone to keep accurate records.
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Tue 10 Oct 2017
at 18:23
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Triple post after breaking 1K!

As a reward, all active players get a GM Token! What does that mean? Here is a list of things you can redeem it for.

-Nullification of one attack against you.
-Divine intervention or inspiration in an encounter(aka hints or strategic monster mistakes)
-Redemption at your local bank for 1000g
-A natural 20 on a single roll
-Any similar request that is cleared by me

This item appears as an ancient Imperial platinum. It has somehow found its way into all of your possessions. Like a lodestone, this coin cannot be removed far from your person, so don't worry about losing it. Work the coin into your in game request for extra dramatic effect (except turning it in for money, you only get a thousand for it).
Kharash
 Player, 116 posts
 Dragonborn
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Tue 17 Oct 2017
at 18:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hello everyone! Kharash is back :)

It seems I've got quite some reading up to do. How is everyone?
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 29 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Tue 17 Oct 2017
at 18:21
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Haha, I was just getting ready to double check that me and Arizima were the only two left. I should have a post out soon.
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Tue 17 Oct 2017
at 20:54
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Glad to see you back! As for Yefi and Arizima, just give me a thumbs up when you want to move on and we will get you on the road. I have plenty of time to post the next couple of weeks, so if people want to pick up the pace and move the respective stories along, just let me know.
Arizima
 Player, 24 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 10/10 AC: 14 PP: 13
Tue 17 Oct 2017
at 23:03
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think we're good to move on now.
Yefi Rasputin
 Player, 33 posts
 Half Elf Sorcerer
Wed 18 Oct 2017
at 03:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Fair to assume we found a store on the way out of town? Looking for a backpack, bedroll, mess kit, waterskin and some rope - I get a total of 4gp 4sp. Remind me not to leave my pack "somewhere safe" next time.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 170 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Wed 18 Oct 2017
at 08:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Kharash:
Hello everyone! Kharash is back :)

It seems I've got quite some reading up to do. How is everyone?


Welcome back!
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Wed 18 Oct 2017
at 09:08
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yefi Rasputin:
Fair to assume we found a store on the way out of town? Looking for a backpack, bedroll, mess kit, waterskin and some rope - I get a total of 4gp 4sp. Remind me not to leave my pack "somewhere safe" next time.


Yeah, donít worry about the gear. Just assume you were about to recoup everything. No cost.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 88 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Wed 18 Oct 2017
at 13:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome back, K.
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Wed 18 Oct 2017
at 16:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Brunya has been dropped from the game. Horgok is officially on notice.
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Sat 21 Oct 2017
at 09:07
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I've just picked some new tools for gaming. Do people like the current map or would you prefer a more detailed hex-based map? Inkwell Ideas has put out some great things and I am eager to show everybody more of the Krieghold Empire, I just need to know what people want.
Kharash
 Player, 122 posts
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Sat 21 Oct 2017
at 12:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I love maps, and if you feel like creating a more detailed one - sure, go ahead! ;)
Arizima
 Player, 29 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 10/10 AC: 14 PP: 13
Sat 21 Oct 2017
at 14:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Detail can always be nice, but I'm fine with whatever you prefer.
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Sun 22 Oct 2017
at 00:43
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A more terrain detailed map has been placed in the world knowledge thread. I'm working on the legend now, but if you have any questions, let me know.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 93 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Mon 23 Oct 2017
at 12:41
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm cool with either kind of map. How much detail we have is up to you, really. We don't need a detailed map unless exploration itself becomes a focus in the game, but I'm certainly not opposed to having a detailed map even if it's rarely used. Maps are cool, crude or detailed.
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Mon 23 Oct 2017
at 12:48
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The new map is more of general terrain, planning for travel, and large scale use. Now you should have an idea of where major cities are, what kind of terrain to expect when traveling and how this part of the world looks.
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Wed 25 Oct 2017
at 12:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
When people are ready to move on, let me know.
Kharash
 Player, 126 posts
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Wed 25 Oct 2017
at 13:49
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm ready to move on.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 96 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Wed 25 Oct 2017
at 13:55
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm ready.
Arizima
 Player, 34 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 17/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Wed 25 Oct 2017
at 14:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Same here.
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Wed 25 Oct 2017
at 14:39
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm removing Horgok due to two weeks without a login and a month since his last post.

Brimir and Yefi are still on official hiatus to to prior coordination.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 177 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Thu 26 Oct 2017
at 09:08
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Not quite ready to move on yet.  I feel we're overlooking a potentially valuable new lead.

Also, is it safe for us to so easily trust the all-too-convenient arrival of this strange woman who claims to have vast magical power, has a questionable personality and whose word is all you have as explanation for what happened to her previous group?

Griswold seems to think so!

Which is pretty contrary to how you have seen him act to such questionable appearances in the past.  (Hint - he may be a little sexist).

This message was last edited by the player at 09:08, Thu 26 Oct 2017.

Arizima
 Player, 36 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 17/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Thu 26 Oct 2017
at 14:49
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Of course its safe!

If anything Arizima should be wary of all these violent barbarians of the north!  And questionable personality?  There's nothing odd at all about sudden pauses, tilted heads, and other indications that she's listening to something no one else can hear.  There certainly isn't anything odd about the fact that supposed Dunnothi nobility is countless miles from home without servants in the middle of nowhere!  And that cough is nothing to concern yourself with.  Completely normal beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 97 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Thu 26 Oct 2017
at 15:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
That's about how Wrenn sees it. /nod
Brother Sul
 Player, 62 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Thu 26 Oct 2017
at 22:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I do believe the gods have seen fit to bestow upon us another weird one.
Whats another to the ones we already have? ^.^

Sorry for my quietness. Sul had little to say, and then i got behind. Had a friends wedding to help prep/go to/pickup. xD

Sul is ready to move on, trusting his hunches that while she may not be trustworthy, she should help light the way. =)
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 98 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Fri 27 Oct 2017
at 19:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'll be away for most of the weekend, but I'll check in as I have time.
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Sun 29 Oct 2017
at 13:22
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Just let me know when you guys are good to move on. I am more than willing to let the scene continue to play out.

Also, is there any lore or backstory that y'all would like me to fill out or expand upon? The writing prompt is still active as well.

This message was last edited by the GM at 13:44, Sun 29 Oct 2017.

Kharash
 Player, 131 posts
 Dragonborn
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Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 17:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think we're ready to move. We can always continue our RP while doing something else :)
Arizima
 Player, 41 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 17/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Wed 1 Nov 2017
at 19:57
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
That works for me.
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Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 07:42
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I assume that you are going to investigate the ghost?
Kharash
 Player, 132 posts
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Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 10:18
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
We'll start with investigating the goblin mound. At dusk we'll investigate the ghost.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 180 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Fri 3 Nov 2017
at 13:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I normally forget about this (sorry everyone!), but if we are allowed to suggest inspiration for people: I thought Arizima's IC lore about Dunnoth was very cool :)
Brother Sul
 Player, 63 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Fri 3 Nov 2017
at 13:52
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I agree. Definitely an interesting read. ^,^
Arizima
 Player, 44 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 17/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Fri 3 Nov 2017
at 16:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks I'm always a little bit wary of posting exposition dumps so I appreciate it.  And thank you to our wonderful GM too for giving me so much room to work on expanding Dunnoth, Sirai, and [redacted]'s lore.
Kharash
 Player, 134 posts
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Fri 3 Nov 2017
at 16:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I agree as well :)
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Fri 3 Nov 2017
at 18:02
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Bravo to Arizima. You have earned an inspiration token!

As for the game, I have always felt that worlds should be about collaboration. Iím not Tolkien or Martin. The world should be something that everyone has an investment in. Griswold has his quest for knighthood in a very complex system of achievement, Kharash has detailed the role that early empire played in the political sphere with the writing submission, Sul has defined the broader role of religion, while Wrenn and Arizima explore the mystical side of the world.

I could not have come up with something this rich and full of life if I tried.
Arizima
 Player, 47 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 17/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 14:41
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Do the existing perception and investigation rolls into the mound already count as our attempts toward that total on the skill check or are we starting fresh?

This message was last edited by the player at 14:41, Tue 07 Nov 2017.

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Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 14:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
You can use the information already given to you, but you are currently at zero since I just started the skill challenge. There are a few hints in previous posts for guidance.
Kharash
 Player, 138 posts
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Tue 7 Nov 2017
at 18:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Since we can't 'open sesame' our way in, I'll let you guys figure out what to do next. If there's need for some heavy lifting, Kharash can be of use though :)

Btw, GM, don't be afraid to give us challenges that we're technically not prepared for. Having to overcome some things by being creative can be fun as well.
Arizima
 Player, 49 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 17/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 05:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Just a suggestion, but maybe someone could find something to tie a rope off to with investigation or perception?  Then someone else uses... something (maybe survival?) to tie the rope off and then someone uses athletics to climb down to the entrance and check it out.  That would be four total successes I think.
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 06:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Getting to the entrance is the next success. The skill challenge is for the mound itself, not just getting into it. There is more once you are inside.
Arizima
 Player, 50 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 17/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 06:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Oh.  Completely ignore that then.  I thought we were making four checks just to get inside.
Kharash
 Player, 139 posts
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 08:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think the rope is a good idea, still.

GM, how deep is this gully? And are there any points to attach a rope to? A tree perhaps?
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 08:15
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Gully is about 12 feet up, but drops straight into the stream. Stream looks about 4-5ft deep at the most but very rocky and hazardous. There are plenty of trees to tie a rope to.
Kharash
 Player, 140 posts
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 08:52
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
And the vine shrouded opening, would we have to wade through the water to enter? Or can one get in while remaining dry?
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 09:07
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Your feet will be wet, but it looks clear to walk into.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 101 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 The stars reveal secrets
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 21:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
My daughter's got a basketball tournament this week/weekend, so I'm going to be somewhat out of touch for the next few days while we're traveling and participating in that.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 183 posts
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 21:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Cool.  Good luck to her!
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Thu 9 Nov 2017
at 18:03
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Have fun! Cheers!
Kharash
 Player, 144 posts
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Thu 16 Nov 2017
at 00:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sorry for the late post, I've had little time the past few days.

Anyone wants to investigate the tracks? That really isn't Kharash's strong side..
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Fri 17 Nov 2017
at 08:33
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No worries, Kharash.

How's everyone else doing?
Kharash
 Player, 145 posts
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Fri 17 Nov 2017
at 15:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Just a side question:

Can a dragonborn with a fire breath (like Kharash) light a torch without expending his breath weapon? Perhaps by softly blowing against it?

Or is it more an all-or-nothing kind of thing? That once summoned, at has to be released, and there's no fine-tuning of it.
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Sat 18 Nov 2017
at 09:43
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I donít see why not. Just try not to abuse it.
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Sat 18 Nov 2017
at 19:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Update Monday morning (~8am GMT) and I will assume yíall are going through the passage if you havenít said otherwise.

Also, Kharash, the fire does not burn your hand.
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Sat 25 Nov 2017
at 09:22
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I hope everyone who celebrates it had a happy Thanksgiving! Still somewhat in a turkey coma, so updates will come in the next couple of days. Cheers!
Kharash
 Player, 149 posts
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Sat 25 Nov 2017
at 16:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah, happy holidays to those that celebrate it! On this side of the Atlantic we don't, though somehow Black Friday did make its way across :P
Brother Sul
 Player, 66 posts
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 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Mon 27 Nov 2017
at 15:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Apologies for dissapearing. Got sick right before the holidays, and with people visiting, i never had time.
Still sick (another day lost of work) but it means i can catch up on stuff. xD Silver Linings.
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Mon 27 Nov 2017
at 16:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome back and I hope you get to feeling better!

Gerard is taking care of Farrissa, so I will assume you joined the others, the delay in caring for Farrissa having you show up late to the room.

Kharash, Roland has a higher dexterity than you, but if are going to take an action that is not attacking or casting a spell, you can act first.

Arizima and Wrenn have a chance to post first before we get to it.

This message was last edited by the GM at 16:07, Mon 27 Nov 2017.

Arizima
 Player, 56 posts
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 HP: 17/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Mon 27 Nov 2017
at 17:03
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I thought I was going after?  I only got an 8 on my initiative check.
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Tue 28 Nov 2017
at 01:33
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Didnít know if you wanted to post something to set up your action. Iíll update in a few hours.
Kharash
 Player, 151 posts
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Tue 28 Nov 2017
at 01:42
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'll wait until it's my turn :)
Arizima
 Player, 57 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 17/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Tue 28 Nov 2017
at 01:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Nah, I'm just casting a spell.  I'll wait until you go.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 189 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Tue 28 Nov 2017
at 02:52
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn, got a few queries on your post (sorry for being pedantic, especially over rules but its better than something not going to plan later):

1) Normally, when you hold an action, you have to use your reaction to trigger it.  So you cannot both fire your magic missiles as a held action and then use Portent.

2) I guess you mean if someone attacks Griswold or Chris, because Farissa is back in the other room.

3) If you hold a spell and it doesn't trigger you still lose the spell slot, so are you sure you want to hold magic missile?  It's fine if you do, it's just an easily overlooked rule.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:53, Tue 28 Nov 2017.

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Tue 28 Nov 2017
at 12:12
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sul, Gerard will be protect Farrissa. His cues will come from you, hence he has the same initiative. He will do what you tell him to.
Brother Sul
 Player, 68 posts
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 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Tue 28 Nov 2017
at 13:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Righto. Then at me stance i'll motion him to the hall, keeping farrissa behind us, and casting bless. Updated post accordingly.

To be sure, is the hallway small enough that i shouldn't be surrounded, or bypassed?
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 191 posts
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 Knight Errant
Tue 28 Nov 2017
at 14:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
@GM

A couple of questions:

1) We don't use flanking rules, right?
2) I have rolled up an OA in case I get the opportunity to make one.  If that is okay, or would you like to handle them differently?
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Tue 28 Nov 2017
at 15:24
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No flanking rules.

A pre-rolled OA is fine, just denote it in your post and I will use it if needed.

Sul, the hallway is wide enough for two abreast. If you stick with the hallway, the skeletons canít get past you and Gerard.
Kharash
 Player, 155 posts
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Wed 29 Nov 2017
at 14:09
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sul, I think you're forgetting some modifier on your attack there.
Brother Sul
 Player, 71 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 9/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Wed 29 Nov 2017
at 16:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Nope. ^.^ I'm big man, but its not all power. I've... not done much training in the past few years. >.>

If it helps to figure that out, lets just say i have a speed and stealth penalty in this armor... ;D

Sul is actually built as a caster, but long ago used to be a fighter, thus his penchant for wanting to be on the front lines. Ask em about it later if u want. ^.^

For technical purposes though, to cast and 'attack with bless' are basically the same mods(including dmg), give-or-take on the bless roll.

Unless... i'm missing something else? xD
Kharash
 Player, 156 posts
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Wed 29 Nov 2017
at 16:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ah, that makes sense then. To be honest I didn't expect that. Nice ;)
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Thu 30 Nov 2017
at 06:17
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@Arizima: Who is the target of your attack? You say knight, but Griswold is the only knight in the room. Roland is possessed by the spirit of an orc shaman.
Arizima
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Thu 30 Nov 2017
at 06:36
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Did I completely mess that up?  The attack was aimed at the last skeleton.  The After that I just had Arizima start circling Roland since he was the last enemy standing.  I thought he was a Knight that was possessed by that orc shaman from some earlier talk but it sounds like I was mistaken?
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Thu 30 Nov 2017
at 06:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Griswold thought Roland was being possessed knight. Turns out it was an orc shaman.
Arizima
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Thu 30 Nov 2017
at 06:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ahh.  That explains my confusion.  I've edited my post to reflect the change.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 30 Nov 2017
at 09:47
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM - how long will Griswold have disadvantage against Roland?  Until next turn, save ends, or something else?  Also is it just disadvantage on attack rolls or other things too?  Thanks!
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Thu 30 Nov 2017
at 10:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sorry, it is for 1d4 rounds. I'll roll or you can. It is a charm effect as well.

You suffer disadvantage vs anything originating from him.
Kharash
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Thu 30 Nov 2017
at 12:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM, is there any indication to Roland's condition? Does he still look healthy, or are we wearing him down already?

Also, if I add weapon damage with smites - can it still be non-lethal, or is it then beyond my control?
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Thu 30 Nov 2017
at 12:55
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Roland is looking worse for the wear, but still going strong.

Divine Smite can only be applied to melee weapons, but you can always declare a melee attack to be non-lethal if it drops them to 0 hp. I'm going to rule that you can.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 30 Nov 2017
at 14:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
Sorry, it is for 1d4 rounds. I'll roll or you can. It is a charm effect as well.

You suffer disadvantage vs anything originating from him.


Cool, thanks.  I might as well roll for the sake of speed if nothing else:

14:31, Today: Griswold Ortmann rolled 3 using 1d4.  Disadvantaged.
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Fri 1 Dec 2017
at 11:18
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Congrats on winning the fight! That was over a lot quicker than I thought it would be. The end of this chapter is approaching quickly. After it does, the world is open to you. Sorry if this kinda was railroaded to start.
Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 1 Dec 2017
at 12:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
Congrats on winning the fight! That was over a lot quicker than I thought it would be. The end of this chapter is approaching quickly. After it does, the world is open to you. Sorry if this kinda was railroaded to start.



Not at all - I've enjoyed it :)
Kharash
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Fri 1 Dec 2017
at 15:52
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
It didn't feel railroaded though. We still had a choice, luckily for you we chose to follow the path you laid out for us ;) Besides, a little push in the right direction can't hurt, right? It's better than being stuck in indecision about where to go next.

I'm really enjoying this game as well :)
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 111 posts
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 HP: 5/10
Fri 1 Dec 2017
at 16:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Kharash:
I'm really enjoying this game as well :)

This
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Fri 1 Dec 2017
at 18:57
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Thank you all for the kind words. I really do appreciate it.

As for the knight, Iím going to give everyone a chance to chime in before answering. Iím sure there are plenty of questions you wish to ask him.
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Sat 2 Dec 2017
at 18:36
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I would like to grant Inspiration to Griswold for some excellent roleplay. Great job and well written!
Brother Sul
 Player, 75 posts
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 HP 7/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Sat 2 Dec 2017
at 19:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Indeed! True to his own beliefs.

As for the thought of railroading, every story needs a start, and we started by choosing to join the trials. No issues here. ^.^
Kharash
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Sat 2 Dec 2017
at 20:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wow! Sul taking the vow, and the squire turning it down. I didn't expect that. Exciting stuff!
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Sun 3 Dec 2017
at 05:23
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I agree!

This game is the same premise and start but is already so much different that the RL version. It is really facinating as a GM to be able to see how different players handle different situations.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 5 Dec 2017
at 11:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
I would like to grant Inspiration to Griswold for some excellent roleplay. Great job and well written!

Thank you!

Not sure I deserve it any more than anyone else, especially Sul.  We all know Griswold is tempermental, but, per the Watcher's IC reaction, this is the first time we've gotten a closer look at Brother Sul.  Hopefully a lot more to follow :D
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Tue 5 Dec 2017
at 18:30
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If anyone wishes to try and Iíd the items before they post, just shoot me a PM. Iíll be awake for another hour or so and can get you an answer.

Great post, Sul!
Kharash
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Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 12:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
What type of heavy armor is there in the armory - an upgrade from chain mail? And if so, what would be required to make it fit Kharash?
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Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 12:57
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Chain mail is three main components, the chain, the padding, and the gauntlets. In this case, Kharash is simply too broad in shoulders to make it fit. An armorer would be required to add a few rings to it for it to fit.
Kharash
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Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 13:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I was more wondering about splint or plate - are those available/modifiable? Kharash already has chain mail.
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Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 13:08
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Sorry! Misread the post.

Yes, splint can be adjusted by an armorer fairly easily, as it is more making it sit correctly and filling in the gaps. Plate is expensive, as each suit is tailor made to a certain person.

Both are available, both can be claimed, but it will cost some money to adjust. Roughly a quarter the price with an armorer.
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 13:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ooh.

I thought breastplate might be pushing it (at 400gp market value).  At the risk of being hyper-greedy, does that mean I could grab a suit of half-plate?
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Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 13:18
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The armor is there. You are just going to have to get it adjusted as well. Breast plate is easy enough with just the straps to adjust, but half plate requires adjustments for the arms and thighs, as well as the padding and chain that interlocks the open parts.

Same as the previous post, 1/4 price to have it adjusted.
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 13:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Alright, then.  I'll stick with the breastplate.  That way there is more chance that we can afford the refit for anyone else interested.  Thanks :)
Brother Sul
 Player, 81 posts
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 HP 7/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 17:25
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I shall probably upgrade to the breastplate as well before this is over. Help with stealth. xD

Apparently I was wrong earlier. Movement wasn't reduced. Thought I had heavy armor for some reason. >.>


Sorry for throwing the problem out. Sul is conflicted for no real reason as we arnt even sure what Inara wants. xD
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Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 18:12
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The plot thickens!

Haha
Kharash
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Wed 6 Dec 2017
at 23:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'll go for the plate armor then. It'll be a little project to get the coin for the refitting.
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Thu 7 Dec 2017
at 03:52
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I take it everyone wants to meet with Inara at this point?
Arizima
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 HP: 14/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Thu 7 Dec 2017
at 03:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think that was the idea yes.
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Fri 8 Dec 2017
at 19:12
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In case anyone was interested, this is the inspiration for the sword.


Brother Sul
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Fri 8 Dec 2017
at 19:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
link is broken for me? o.O
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Fri 8 Dec 2017
at 19:50
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It does that sometimes. You might be able to go to it directly.

http://cubeupload.com/im/Modeus47/SwordofDelius.jpg
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 117 posts
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 HP: 5/10
Fri 8 Dec 2017
at 19:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'll take two, please.
Kharash
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Fri 8 Dec 2017
at 20:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Awesome sword
Brother Sul
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Fri 8 Dec 2017
at 20:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Preeeettyyy... if only in had proficiency in it. >,<
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Sat 9 Dec 2017
at 13:11
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Update coming today sometime, probably in a few hours.
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Sun 10 Dec 2017
at 07:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Griswold, you are still going to need a Persuasion check to get Inara to agree. She has made it obvious she doesn't want one group near the other.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 210 posts
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Sun 10 Dec 2017
at 09:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Okay :)

However, I don't think Griswold really cares about her opinion anymore because:

1 - Considering everything that has happened, the information she still refuses to share with us and the fact that this person she claims is the cause of everything (assuming she's not lying about that to cover up her own mistakes) could still be out to get us, I am not sure he has any ground to order us about.

2 - Griswold has quit her stupid little competition.  Technically, he doesn't belong to any group at this point.

3 - We saved those kids lives!  If they had died their blood would have been on her hands.  She sent them into the woods, basically alone and unarmed, knowing that there was (supposedly) some mysterious evil force out there looking to strike out at her.  We deserve some sort of recognition of that.  So far she hasn't even acknowledged our efforts, let alone shown any sort of gratitude.

4 - Its going to be very difficult to stop Griswold from following her.
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Sun 10 Dec 2017
at 09:47
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At this point, she is still trying to leverage her status as competition judge and a member of court to get you to comply. I think it is going to be hard for her to actually stop Griswold.

In regards to the competition, there have been several warnings that the competition was not for the feint of heart. Inara herself said at the tavern that the 25 gold was a bribe to not go further if you didn't wish to possibly get hurt. She was friendly and helpful before the first actual trial.

The trial of the doors also saw Griswold call her out in front of the entire festival, which angered even the local group that had gotten pummeled by it. In the eyes of Inara, Griswold has challenged her authority and status at every turn. Even if she was feeling like sharing, it would not be to Griswold.

I wish to express that I am not using Inara to mask a story element or to be deliberately difficult. I have tried to formulate her responses in her mindset.

We can always talk about this more, as this is a significant plot point, I am more than happy to. I want this game to be fun, not frustrating.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 212 posts
 Half-Elf
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Sun 10 Dec 2017
at 10:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Don't worry, I'm not frustrated :) And Inara's stance is perfectly valid for her as a stuck up noble.  I just wanted to point out that Griswold's actions aren't going to change regardless of her reaction.

And Griswold only challenged her after grievous injury has befallen people.  She warned of danger, but was specifically vague about it.  Never claiming that people's life would be in threatened.  Even said to Griswold specifically that she would ensure people didn't die.  Yet here we are - the ones that actually protected the others and she doesn't give a damn about our achievements.

This message was last edited by the player at 10:57, Sun 10 Dec 2017.

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Sun 10 Dec 2017
at 11:21
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No worries. I just wanted to clarify or talk it out if there was consternation.

In any case, I will let the others get a chance to chime in before I reply. After all, you plan on taking the horse. :)
Kharash
 Player, 173 posts
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Fri 15 Dec 2017
at 13:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Excuse my lack of posting these days. Things have gotten a lot busier than I expected.

Also, I will be on holidays for the next ~3 weeks. I may be able to check RPOL every once in a while, but my posting rate will likely be a bit unreliable...
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Fri 15 Dec 2017
at 13:46
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No worries. Things should be less posting intensive the next few weeks anyways. The competition is wrapping up and Kharash hasn't been big on exposition. :)

Have a great holiday and don't worry about us too much.
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Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 08:01
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Everyone doing okay?
Brother Sul
 Player, 88 posts
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 HP 7/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 13:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Apologies. Holiday setup and people taking slot of my time and coworkers taking "forced" vacation. Slot of those 'use it or lose it types.
I'll try and get something up soon.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 119 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 5/10
Mon 18 Dec 2017
at 14:23
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Same here. Plus a million different meetings to wrap up things for year-end. I would expect the rest of the year to be fairly slow.
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Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 05:26
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I completely understand the holidays. I'm not going to be mad if people don't post until after the New Year. It is Christmas, after all!

That said, I can continue to post for Griswold if he wants it. I will likely move you to a separate thread if you do. You are going to be away from the group!
Arizima
 Player, 75 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 14/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 05:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm around but it doesn't feel right to me for Arizima to be the one asking Gammon questions so I'll wait for someone else to get some free time.
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Sun 24 Dec 2017
at 08:57
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I will fast forward to the ceremony at the New Year if no one has an issue with that.
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Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 08:42
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Merry Christmas everyone!
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 25 Dec 2017
at 09:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Merry Christmas!
Kharash
 Player, 174 posts
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Wed 27 Dec 2017
at 22:30
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Happy holidays everyone :)
Brother Sul
 Player, 89 posts
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 HP 7/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Thu 28 Dec 2017
at 22:39
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Merry Holidays!
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Mon 1 Jan 2018
at 14:07
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Happy New Year to all!
Brother Sul
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Mon 1 Jan 2018
at 15:03
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Merry New years!
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 222 posts
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Mon 1 Jan 2018
at 21:39
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Happy new year :) Welcome to 2018!
Arizima
 Player, 76 posts
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 HP: 14/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Mon 1 Jan 2018
at 22:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Happy New Year to everyone.
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Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 10:39
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I am going to press forward tomorrow. We are going to fast forward to the ceremony and celebration that evening.

Also, we might have a new player. A good friend of mine from another game has expressed interest in joining.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 121 posts
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 HP: 10/10
Thu 4 Jan 2018
at 20:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome to the new addition, then.
Arizima
 Player, 78 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 14/17 AC: 15 PP: 13
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 15:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome Eri!
Eri Sato
 Player, 1 post
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 15:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks everyone! I look forward to playing with you!
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 223 posts
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Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 16:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome :D
Brother Sul
 Player, 93 posts
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 HP 7/9 | AC 18 | PP 20
Fri 5 Jan 2018
at 19:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome Sir! ^.^
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 122 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 14/14
Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 19:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Got my leveling up taken care of, I think. I'm about to to got Six Flags, so I won't have a post until later tonight.

Here's my portent roll for today, while I'm thinking about it.

13:14, Today: Wrenn Muernig rolled 9,13 using 1d20,1d20.  Portent.
Brother Sul
 Player, 94 posts
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 HP 19/19 | AC 18 | PP 20
Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 21:56
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I might be missing it but, is there char creation rules somewhere? Rolling or average HP really is all i'm looking for. >.>
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Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 22:09
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Average or roll. Doesnít matter, but you have to keep what you roll.
Brother Sul
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 HP 21/21 | AC 18 | PP 20
Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 22:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Fine! I'll show you who believes in luck!

Edit: 17:30, Today: Brother Sul rolled 6 using 2d8 with rolls of 4,2. I only have the gods to blame...
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 224 posts
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Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 23:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm sorry - I've been looking for a while now and haven't found anything to support this, but I had an inkling that the restriction on PHB only character creation was lifted, allowing us to use other official material?  Am I mistaken?  Just wondering for decisions regarding my archetype.  Thanks! :)
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Sat 6 Jan 2018
at 23:38
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Correct. I think I did it in PMs to people.

Any WOTC source is good, pending final approval from me.
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Sun 7 Jan 2018
at 20:19
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On that note, since most things are fair game now, if you wish to rework any part of your character, whether it be class, race, background or what have you, just PM me. I want to make sure people are happy to play the character they want and not feel like they may have made a poor choice early on or if there is something that has come out since we started that suits your character concept better than what the PHB had.
Kharash
 Player, 176 posts
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Tue 9 Jan 2018
at 22:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm back from my vacation. Happy new year everyone! And welcome Eri!
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Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 07:28
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Welcome back!
Eri Sato
 Player, 2 posts
Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 16:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks again for making me feel so welcome everyone!
Kharash
 Player, 177 posts
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Wed 10 Jan 2018
at 16:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
A shame you rolled so low Griswold. That was a smooth introduction  ;)
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Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 06:41
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Hello everyone! I have a DnD Beyond campaign set up and would like to invite you to it!

https://ddb.ac/campaigns/join/63955493051454

You can create characters and have an easy way to modify everything. Plus it keeps track of all your spells, equipment, and other items!
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 228 posts
 Half-Elf
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Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 10:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Very cool.  I have made my character there.  Thanks :D

A couple of notes:  The background feature is incorrect as I cannot add a homebrew one (as far as I can see anyway) and most of my gear is carried by Jacoby (and so Griswold is far from encumbered).

This message was last edited by the player at 10:07, Thu 11 Jan 2018.

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Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 10:49
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I will add any homebrew items as requested. I don't really care about encumbrance as long as we don't get crazy about it.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 125 posts
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Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 14:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Cool. Are you wanting to move this game over there, or are you looking to start a second game there?
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Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 16:50
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The main game will stay here. Itís just for ease of record keeping since it is official and I have it.
Kharash
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Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 17:25
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
It's pretty neat, that D&D beyond! Everything is linked, and so much easier to read and adjust - instead of having to type everything, and worry about spacing/fonts/colors to make the RPOL char sheet readable.
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Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 18:53
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Best purchase I have ever made, besides Fantasy Grounds, for gaming.

I know I just posted a wall of text, so if you have questions, please ask! We will be starting your first downtime phase, so i look forward to helping you get your characters ready. During the downtime, if you have a story arc you wish to pursue, we can put it in a separate thread and go at your pace. Once done, your group's next quest can begin!
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 126 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 14/14
Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 20:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Downtime activities I'm interested in:

1. Researching Garasa/Kalaryl's recent activities, and which god she now serves (if she's still a cleric).
2. Convincing Sinofel to share some of his spells with me. *wink, wink*
3. Find out what the crap a sin eater is, and how I can become one myself (if it's cool)
4. Possibly doing some tinker/alchemy work for gold, as that's the limiting factor to most downtime activities.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:32, Thu 11 Jan 2018.

Arizima
 Player, 82 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 21:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
We've talked about the things Arizima would be doing during downtime in a pm already I think.  Whether or not anyone else knows about those activities or wants to participate kind of depends on Kharash trying to get Arizima to explain herself or someone else pressing the issue though.

On a less mysterious note I'd be interested in looking for Ritual spells with Wrenn if the opportunity presents itself.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 229 posts
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Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 22:30
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
As always, Griswold seems to have a multitude of things on his mind (spoilers!):

1) Buying out Farrissa's contract (with Wrenn, if he'll join)
2) Attending Lady Inara's trial (from our thread it seemed as though only Griswold was required, but he'd expect the whole group to be there)
3) Attending his own trial (as the Grandmaster said).  Considering the situation, if he is knighted, he'll join the Order of Delius (if Brother Sul will have him).  The tenants appeal to him and it will help to prevent possible conflicts of interest arising.
4) Over the course of the month Griswold's own elfin magic will begin to blossom, starting with a strange ability to summon his rapier to his hand, from no where (roll on Eldritch knight!).  He'll think it wonderful and will show it off to the others.  Thereafter more destructive powers begin to show, such as the blade igniting with green flame and he'd seek guidance from Wrenn or Arizima, if either are interested in helping him.
5) If room and board are not supplied, he'll need to cover his expenses.  Even if they are, he'd like to make some money anyway.  He'll not have much after buying the contract, but he is proficient with Dragonchess.  So, perhaps, considering the Festival atmosphere, he can find a lot of challengers to play against - some willing to wager?
6) Recruiting!  Griswold considers himself a charming man, even if the dice don't support it, and he'll happily help with the recruiting efforts, starting with Gammon.  Especially if it means he gets to spend more time with Whisper. And on that subject...
7) The Roses seem resigned to being little more than mentors in the new guild.  Griswold would want to work on convincing them to be more proactive.  They are capable of so much more.  They say we need legends?  They already are legends!

That's quite a lot.  I assume 1,2 and 3 would only take part of a day and hopefully 4 can be done as an aside.  However, the others could take longer so if I have to pick one, it would have to be recruiting (with Whisper ofc!).
Kharash
 Player, 181 posts
 Dragonborn
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Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 22:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I need a little reminding Arizima. Was I going to ask you about something in particular?

For downtime activity:
  • I'm interested in what the scope of this Guild will be, what our main goal will be, and how we can make it successful.
  • I would like to establish connections with other notable groups such as the Watchers, the Knightly orders (perhaps with Griswold's help), and whoever else we might convince - perhaps even with groups beyond the Krieghold borders if that makes sense within the Guild's goals.
  • I want to organize our own ranks. Hiring professionals, such as craftsmen, traders, medics, soldiers, spies, etc. And turn this Guild into a self-sufficient entity, making its own gold, and having groups sent out on different missions. Perhaps a more long-term goal this.
  • On a more personal note, I'm interested in finding out more about Kharash's background.


I do want to be cautious we don't all storm off in different directions, and end up with six single player campaigns. The group quest is where it's at :)
Arizima
 Player, 83 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 23:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Back before we entered the ruins Kharash had mentioned that he noticed Arizima didn't cast a shadow.  Originally I think he was going to have her explain over lunch but that got put off once Griswold got separated from the rest of us for a bit.

Most of Arizima's downtime activity revolves around that and a bunch of related factors.

This message was last edited by the player at 23:28, Thu 11 Jan 2018.

Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 127 posts
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 HP: 14/14
Thu 11 Jan 2018
at 23:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Freeing Farissa is my #1 priority.
Brother Sul
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 HP 17/17 | AC 18 | PP 20
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 01:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sul's goals are a little less adventurous. >.>

Griswold, your sure to pick up that Sul is not someone people would want to follow. Infact, he's terrible at it(CHA 8).xD
What he can do though, is read people as easily as he reads books. Well, not that great, but still darn good.
That said, Sul has the understanding and experience to listen and know others are smarter than him and will take and use advice. So, he can be a leader, but more like in the background to a puppet. Or just many advisors and someone he can send out to be the real leader with his blessing... Like a certain charismatic fighter. ;3

Goals:
  • 1) Pick the Roses for information on history they know. Specifically anything dealing with my Discovery. Preferably out of earshot of others.
  • 2) Ask for their help with it.
  • 3) Help Kharash with organizing and learning of the Guild. You could say i'm a professional Bookkeeper or advisor. ^.^
  • 4) Learn of these Relics we now have, and decide what to do with them.
  • 5) Get to know a little of everyone in the group. You can tell papa Sul anything and he won't judge you. xD
  • 6) Do a bit of studying of my own about my discovery, and meet and chat with other scholars on such theories and the arcane.
  • 7) Meditate on what i find.

The gold from passing the first round and my own purse would go to helping Farissa if they want, and the rest can cover my expenses for the month. >.>
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Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 08:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
A healthy amount of want by everyone. Just let me know if you would like a separate thread for any character(or groups of characters) to RP the downtime. If not, we can do some rolls for the downtime and keep the main thread open for group conversations.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 128 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 14/14
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 14:30
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I don't think I really need a thread for mine.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 230 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 14:56
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I am happy to continue on too.

Assuming that we do, would Arizima or Wrenn be interested in helping Griswold master his limited magical talents?

Its cool if no one is.  For info, Griswold's spells are more combat orientated, if that is a factor.

Also, if he manages to gather enough money, Griswold would like to try and purchase the following items (in order of preference):

1) A brass brazier and 10gp worth of charcoal
2) a bowstring and arrows
3) a lute

Thanks :)
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 129 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 14/14
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 15:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn is always up for helping with magical things. He didn't start out combat oriented in his magic, but he's begun to swing a bit more that direction as of late.
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Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 15:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Coolio. Just have a set up post when you are ready and we can get you started on downtime.
Arizima
 Player, 86 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 17:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Arizima would be interested in helping as well Griswold.

I'm fine with moving along if the others want to.  Arizima's malady discussion is probably going to be another good sized exposition dump.  That can happen here or later as part of a bigger group discussion after this meeting I figure.  Whatever works best for everyone.
Wrenn Muernig
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 HP: 14/14
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 17:42
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm cool with anybody doing an info dump as needed, or playing things out in a thread.
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Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 18:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
For sake of clarity, you can do what you want at the moment. If you all wish to get rip roaring drunk at the tavern and have a lengthy conversation about the future of the Adventuring Guild, have at it. I am only going to step in if something is directed at one of the Roses or a critical NPC. For now, you have free reign of Maypole and the narrative.
Arizima
 Player, 87 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Fri 12 Jan 2018
at 19:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
If you all wish to get rip roaring drunk at the tavern and have a lengthy conversation about the future of the Adventuring Guild


That makes the most sense to me.  Unless someone has more pressing comments or questions for the Roses we can move to a setting where we can discuss the guild and downtime plans at length in character to get a firmer grasp of who's going where.  My last post could be a decent segue into it if someone else wants to follow through.
Arizima
 Player, 89 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Sat 13 Jan 2018
at 19:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
And so the great exposition dump of 2018 begins.

It should probably go without saying but don't take all of Arizima's soul talk as an actual lesson on how Ancient Egyptians viewed the soul.  It's pretty close in a lot of ways but I've made some assumptions and changes to make it fit a fantasy world a little bit better.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 233 posts
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 Knight Errant
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 17:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I quite like the phrase that I just made up (or hopefully so.  Don't remember hearing it anywhere before):

'a little bit of colour fades from the world every time a beauty dies'

But I'm not sure where it comes from, IC.  Is it a global saying, a Kriegian one, a sailors' adage, or something Griswold just made up.  Anyone else care to comment?  (No worries, if not).
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Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 17:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hey! Iím the one supposed to be giving the writing prompts around here. ;)
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 132 posts
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 HP: 14/14
Sun 14 Jan 2018
at 18:34
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Global or Kriegan.
Brother Sul
 Player, 101 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 17/17 | AC 18 | PP 20
Tue 16 Jan 2018
at 11:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'd tie it to a bard or hero of ages past. xD

Will be out of pocket most of the day, but i will check back after work. (10 hrs from now)

I wanted to go further and say more but i have limited time atm.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 133 posts
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 HP: 14/14
Tue 16 Jan 2018
at 13:34
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm going to try to get something posted today. Life showed up unannounced over the weekend.
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Fri 19 Jan 2018
at 15:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I will have a rumor board and quest post up soon. The quests and rumors will be a mix of different actual quests and false leads. The adventures will also vary in difficulty. You won't have a post to go fight an ancient red dragon, but there could be a few leads that are more powerful than you are. Just be aware if you go after them.
Arizima
 Player, 93 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Fri 19 Jan 2018
at 18:00
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'll be doing some of that soul aspect research during downtime.  If anyone is interested in being directly involved in that just go ahead and say so and Arizima will be happy to include anyone.

I think there's some more stuff in the Player's Additions thread too now for anyone that's interested in that kind of thing.
Wrenn Muernig
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 HP: 14/14
Fri 19 Jan 2018
at 18:08
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn's always up for research.

Sorry I've not had time to get caught up on the RP thread yet. We've had sickness going around the house, then at work, now it's my turn apparently. I'll try to get caught up this afternoon.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:09, Fri 19 Jan 2018.

Brother Sul
 Player, 103 posts
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 HP 17/17 | AC 18 | PP 20
Sat 20 Jan 2018
at 14:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Speaking of research...
Wrenn Muernig
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Sat 20 Jan 2018
at 17:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Gotta love research...
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Sat 20 Jan 2018
at 20:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Feeling under the weather today. Iíll get a post up tomorrow.
Arizima
 Player, 94 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Mon 22 Jan 2018
at 15:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Are we splitting the wealth from the chest in the Order of Delius's ruins or are we holding on to it for another purpose or because it's Delius's money and not ours?  I'm trying to figure out if I can afford some books or not.

For context there seems to be 583 gold worth of wealth total not counting the vials.  208 of it it's in coins with the various gemstones representing another 350 gold of value.  If we do divide that five ways that's 116 gold and 6 silver per party member.
Brother Sul
 Player, 105 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 17/17 | AC 18 | PP 20
Mon 22 Jan 2018
at 17:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Seems only fair. Have at the!
Sul has yet to learn the cost of running an order so take advantage while we got it. XD

Speaking of it, Sul will test each artifact and get an idea of what each does or contains.
This would include taking some cliff notes you would divulge of the book. XD
Arizima
 Player, 97 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Tue 23 Jan 2018
at 18:36
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Now that I have identify as a ritual spell I can hopefully give you some information soon.  Actually I could cast it on everything if you like.
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Tue 23 Jan 2018
at 18:57
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Just a note on the identify spell. It will tell you the function and attunement method only. Research with History or Religion is required to understand their origins and histories.
Arizima
 Player, 98 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Tue 23 Jan 2018
at 19:00
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Eh.  It's a start.
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Tue 23 Jan 2018
at 19:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Exposition time! Iím going to have fun with this! Let me know which other items you are going to identify.

Griswold and Eri, expect replies in the morning. I have work to get to but they are coming!
Arizima
 Player, 99 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Tue 23 Jan 2018
at 19:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
0_o...

I don't know what I was expecting but it definitely wasn't that.

I'll identify each of the items if no one objects.  There doesn't seem to be any harm to doing so.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 239 posts
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 Knight Errant
Tue 23 Jan 2018
at 20:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Interesting.  So, presumably, Sul could bring back hundreds of knights of Delius who are just sitting around getting bored on their own spiritual page?

Also - does Arizima still think this book as an inferior mockery of Dunnoth practices?
Arizima
 Player, 101 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Tue 23 Jan 2018
at 20:41
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Arizima thinks this is half-baked stolen knowledge that should be purged before it has a chance to spread to protect her people's long term sovereignty.  She might not be old but she's been largely raised by someone who takes a very long view of history.  The long view from what I've learned is most likely that the people native to what's now Krieghold always cross the sea and try kill, conquer, and/or enslave the Dunnothi eventually.  I'm not going to say that favor's never been returned on some scale but it's still a concern.  Any bit of Dunnothi magic they steal for themselves gives them another weapon that they'll turn on the peoples across the sea eventually.

On the other hand she's also only human and thinks that Sul has treated her more kindly than she would have expected post revelation.  So she'll at least let him know what's in the book and probably why it concerns her too.
Brother Sul
 Player, 107 posts
 The Seeker
 HP 17/17 | AC 18 | PP 20
Tue 23 Jan 2018
at 21:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
That... is interesting indeed. O.O I'm not even sure what to do here... lol
Edit: Oh, and feel free to identify anything and everything. ^.^ I'll help with History and Religion, though i dont get a portent or lucky. xD Just regular RNG gods for me. lol Unless...
Edit:Edit: On a side note, this possibly derailed most of my plans. >.>

This message was last edited by the player at 22:39, Tue 23 Jan 2018.

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Wed 24 Jan 2018
at 08:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Everyone should be updated now. If I missed anything, please let me know.

I am going to chose to stick with the book for now so the other items don't get lost in the massive discussion.
Kharash
 Player, 184 posts
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Wed 24 Jan 2018
at 10:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ooh, that's very interesting, that book! All of a sudden, the restoration of the Order of Delius is quite a step closer - if you want to take that path ;)
Brother Sul
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 HP 17/17 | AC 18 | PP 20
Thu 25 Jan 2018
at 18:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Restoration is te word, but are we bringing demons or saints? xD
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Thu 25 Jan 2018
at 20:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Alright! I think I got everyone. If I missed your request, please shoot me a PM. Lots of exposition going on right now and I don't want your stuff to get forgotten.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 138 posts
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 HP: 14/14
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 15:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
If I need to murderize some guards to get this girl her freedom....so be it.
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Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 15:47
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
:)

I encountered this today and thought I would share.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...p;list=RDvyn8gAYtNu4
Eri Sato
 Player, 10 posts
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 21:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Very nice!

By the way, rather than make a character description (I'll get around to it) I did a quick doodle of Eri and put it in her character details thingy in case anyone is curious. It's not perfect but whatever! :)
Arizima
 Player, 109 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 21:25
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think you might have forgotten to save it.  I don't see anything anyway.  :)
Eri Sato
 Player, 12 posts
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 21:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Blast! It shows up for me at least. I hate rpol sometimes...

Here, see if you see it here?


This message was last edited by the player at 21:28, Fri 26 Jan 2018.

Arizima
 Player, 110 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 21:30
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Nope.  I just see the message asking you to update your account to enable 3rd party hosting.

I don't know if this would be it but would putting placeholder text in your character description do anything?  As it stands I can't click on your name or anything.  I should have been more specific to start with sorry.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:31, Fri 26 Jan 2018.

Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 139 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 14/14
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 21:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Stick it in imgur instead.
Eri Sato
 Player, 13 posts
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 21:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Poopy heck! I used to do stuff from photobucket to rpol all the time. I think photobucket has had some crappy updates...

I'll work on both those suggestions. Thanks guys!
Eri Sato
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Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 22:00
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Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 241 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 22:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
The code looks good (I don't really know about such things, but I tried replacing your link with one of my own pictures and it was fine), so I don't know what's wrong.  Could it be because your photobucket account is private?
Eri Sato
 Player, 15 posts
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 22:47
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks for all your help everyone! I found out what it is!

So I've used photobucket for YEARS. We're talking 12 plus years here, and recently they decided to not allow third party sharing unless you pay some monumental fee! I've only seen a few articles on it but they claim it's something like 400$ a year, though I can't quite wrap my head around that because it seems like suicide for their business...

Long story short, I can't link my old work anymore which really cheeses me because I have years and years worth of stuff saved there that only I get to see now. Crap, crap, crap!

So for the time being I made a blog just for my artwork. I can't put the cool effects I used to like framing and lighting and all that but it's better than nothing. So if this link doesn't work I think I'm going to murder someone! This was all way more work than drawing the stupid thing!

http://artstuff2001.blogspot.com/2018/01/eri-sato.html
Arizima
 Player, 111 posts
 Human Warlock
 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 22:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Your link works.  :)

It's a nice picture too.
Eri Sato
 Player, 16 posts
Fri 26 Jan 2018
at 22:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
HUZZAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you!! Gosh, I spent so freaking long researching that! psssh!
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 242 posts
 Half-Elf
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Sat 27 Jan 2018
at 01:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Very cool :D
Kharash
 Player, 185 posts
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Sat 27 Jan 2018
at 17:47
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Very nice picture yeah!
Eri Sato
 Player, 17 posts
Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 00:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks so much guys! :)

I can always give doodling you all a shot should you wish it. It's good practice.
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Sun 28 Jan 2018
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If you are looking for a good alternative to photobucket(as I learned recently about the change too), try cubeupload.com

They are free but I donated twenty USD to the cause since they are easy to use and rely on donations.
Eri Sato
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Sun 28 Jan 2018
at 23:55
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks for the tip! I was overwhelmed trying to pick a replacement :)
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Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 08:25
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Please let me know if you need anything in your respective threads.
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 14:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
@Wrenn - for the caged bird thread, I think we should assume that you're already with me because Griswold would have gone to ask if you wanted to come with, before heading over to Farrissa.

Same for anyone else interested, who might have been with Wrenn at the time.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 140 posts
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Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 15:05
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yep
Arizima
 Player, 113 posts
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Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 18:36
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
In reply to Eri Sato (msg # 653):

I wouldn't say no if you wanted to.
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Mon 29 Jan 2018
at 18:38
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I will give it until morning for anyone else to jump in and then update. Off to bed!
Brother Sul
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 HP 17/17 | AC 18 | PP 20
Tue 30 Jan 2018
at 12:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Aye Eri. If you want to doodledraw, who am i to stop you!

At some point, Sul will bring up wanting to go see this oracle, time permitted. And perhaps check on these artifacts that are mentioned on the rumor board. >.>
Eri Sato
 Player, 22 posts
Tue 30 Jan 2018
at 13:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Cool! I'll get on that this weekend :) Also, you have a pretty good description already in your character details but what about hair length and facial hair? Is it similar to your avatar or different? I know rpol has limited ability to match what we imagine. Just want to make sure I have something in the ballpark of what you pictured. Thanks!
Griswold Ortmann
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 Half-Elf
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Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 18:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks for the assist Wrenn, but it went even worse :(
Arizima
 Player, 117 posts
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 HP: 24/24 AC: 12 PP: 13
Wed 31 Jan 2018
at 18:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
This is probably a bad time to say that Arizima is a charisma focused character with Lucky and proficiency in Intimidation.  >.>

Just as a reminder don't forget Arizima's question once this is resolved.  She really is asking earnestly about who to go to report a further wrinkle in the trial.
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Thu 1 Feb 2018
at 08:27
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Youíve had a bad spot of luck with charisma checks, Griswold. Sorry.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 1 Feb 2018
at 09:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Meh, it happens :P

Its just a little annoying that he is meant to be this charming and charismatic character, but the dice just refuse to let that him be even average.  He's had his fair share of good rolls though.  But they've mostly been for history.

@Arizima, yup I'm sure you're much better at all things charismatic than Griswold, but it made more sense for him to make the roll in this situation.
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Thu 1 Feb 2018
at 09:50
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I hope it turns around soon. Itís never fun to have the dice against you.
Wrenn Muernig
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 HP: 14/14
Thu 1 Feb 2018
at 14:21
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn's not charismatic at all. At all. He's pretty good at pushing buttons and pissing people off, though.
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Thu 1 Feb 2018
at 14:52
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Just make sure you don't piss off the wrong people. ;)

Also, Eri will be joining the group thread for Research Opportunities. Be nice as she gets acquainted with the group!
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 1 Feb 2018
at 17:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
Be nice as she gets acquainted with the group!


And afterwards we get to be as mean as we want, right? :evil:
Eri Sato
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 14:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hahahaha! Of course! One must only be nice in the beginning! Isn't that how it is with marriage too? ;P
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 16:17
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Speaking of, quick poll for the group.

Which would you prefer for the future of this game:

A more classic D&D adventure or stay true to the E6 foundation we started with?
Arizima
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 16:39
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I like the general idea of acknowledging how impressive the average adventurer with a handful of levels is to the average commoner.  People that can survive forty foot falls without serious injuries before cleaving through hordes of Orcs or incinerating them with a fireball are scary superhuman entities.

To be honest though from a fluff/conceptual level I'm not quite sure what the difference between the two approaches is if our levels are uncapped?  I'm fine with that and I agree with that choice I just don't know if there's a big difference.  From what I read quickly on E6 it's general divisions of play seem to map pretty closely to 5e's tiers of play.

Is there something I'm missing?
Wrenn Muernig
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 16:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
5E is designed to be focused on Tier 2 anyway. If you do the math on the experience points required per level, you'll notice T2 has the biggest gaps between levels compared to available experience rewards. In a typical 5E game, you'll spend more time in levels 5-10 than any other bracket.

I'm fine doing it either way.
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 16:53
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Nothing is missing, it just alters the flavor and variety.

In the E6 direction, you're not likely going to see any truly strange monsters, but the monsters you do see are going to be tough and deserving of facing level 6 and above characters.

Example: In a classic D&D game, your group could take on a manticore and come out victorious pretty easily if the dice treat you well. In an E6 game, that manticore is likely a unique monster and has the skill, intelligence, and toughness to back it up.

Right now, so you can meta-game slightly, the Grandmasters on the Knightly Council sit at about 8th level and the Roses roughly sit around 12-14th level. Delius was likely in the 17-18 range.
Kharash
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 17:00
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I was going to ask what the difference exactly was, but I think you've described it well. 5e has its 'Tiers of play', but I can see how that is contradicted by a 'seemingly easy' manticore (although it likely still wrecks a farmers life and livestock).

I'm all for what makes the best story, and what fits best within your world. If that means that you upscale a monster to make it a more dangerous foe worthy of its reputation, go ahead!
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
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I think you've picked up by now that I am not a fan of the dungeon crawl. I prefer the story and roleplay more than how many dice you can throw to damage a monster. That said, the tomb was a good test run for how I want combat to go. I have some tweaks here and there that will get introduced eventually for a pbp format, but for now it's fine.

Back to the point though, I would throw more than just a jumped up monster. Unusual situations, political gambits, and gut-wrenching choices are part of the E6 experience. Things that are not tropes like "catch the villain or save the village" but something more along the realm of the dilemma you have with the Lord of Stories.
Kharash
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 17:14
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Perhaps there is a way to combine the two? I really enjoy a good story, but I also like to throw dice at a monster :)
Arizima
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 17:23
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm fine with that.  I enjoy the non combat stuff quite a bit and personally like it when combat has stakes beyond just the combat itself.  I don't have a problem with combat in and of itself I just think its more entertaining when the stakes are more involved than just removing a general obstacle.

As for monster selection I'd just say do what you like.  I'm fine with whatever you enjoy there and want to do since that should result in a better game for everyone.
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Fri 2 Feb 2018
at 17:27
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Certainly. There is no reason not to expect combat; I just don't like dungeon grinding for the sake of dungeon grinding. If y'all came a cross an abandoned ruin, it might be filled with a few beasts and the like more so than a horde of demons. If you are facing a true monster though, expect it to be a hard fought battle.

Also, intelligent baddies(aka sentient) will likely cap unless they are along the same lines as your group. That means that joe shmoe knight will likely cap at 4th level if he does his normal knightly duties. Battle veterans will cap around 6th. That orc warlord that has fought tooth and nail(literally) to get where he is? Likely higher than 6th. Face off against the Minotaur(not just a minotaur)? Expect a double digit CR equivalent.

I hope that helps.
Eri Sato
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Thu 8 Feb 2018
at 13:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sorry for the delay in posting. I've been working on my taxes the last two days. I think I'm done though, yay! :)
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Fri 9 Feb 2018
at 13:53
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No worries. I would like everyone to join up in the research thread and discuss future actions. The Caged Bird plot might become a major one depending on the actions taken. If so, it will cut downtime significantly. I want everyone to be introduced to Eri and the future of the party discussed.

Sorry if I seem pushy, but I don't want to rush ahead if people are not ready.

As for timeline, just to clarify, the research thread takes place the day before the Caged Bird and a week after Griswold declared for the Argonauts.
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Mon 12 Feb 2018
at 19:28
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Everybody okay?
Eri Sato
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Tue 13 Feb 2018
at 16:55
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Gosh everyone is so nice already! Can't go wrong with offering muffins, real or not! ;P

On another note, I have to drive to Portland today and it's a really terrifying, stressful crazy city full of one way streets, construction and insane drivers. I've literally had recurring nightmares of driving there on accident and freaking out, so basically this is the stuff of hell for me. Why do I tell you this? Because if I don't post on here again you should probably assume I died in a fiery inferno somewhere on the 205.
Brother Sul
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Wed 14 Feb 2018
at 00:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sorry everyone! Had a lot pop up and my schedule shifted slightly, just enough to ruin my previous scheduling setups.

I'm still here! Gonna try n catch up and at least read everything today.
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Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 14:47
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Sorry to say that Brother Sul has bowed out for the next few months. Life gets the better of us sometimes. His character will still be here when he gets back though. Best of luck to him!

In the meantime, if you need me to inject into the current story, please let me know. Otherwise, we can start moving towards the next chapter. Cheers!
Kharash
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Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 15:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Best of luck, Sul!

What exactly is the next chapter? Some of those items on the rumor board look interesting too, are there any close to Maypole?
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 16:14
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I've got a lot of things pulling me around right now. I can still actively post, but I won't be doing much along the lines of driving the story for a bit while I get a better grasp of things.
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Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 20:28
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The rumor board quests are always up for grabs. There are also the PC threads, such as Farrissaís situation, Arizimaís research and investigations, and even Kharash looking into the dragonborn lead. You could also pick a place on the map and explore if that is something you want to do.

I am good with hand waving the rest of downtime and moving straight into a quest setup, but yíall will have to decide which direction you want to go. Right now, my plan is to have Sul stay back in Maypole and learn the ropes as the leader of a new order from the Roses.
Arizima
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Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 20:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well we have to deal with the Farissa situation first.  At least that's been my take on the situation.  Past that it probably makes sense to go on some sort of quest from the rumor board?  She wouldn't immediately demand it but Arizima would prefer something that was in the direction of that old Dunnothi stronghold so she can stop by it on the way there or back as well.  If that's possible.
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Fri 23 Feb 2018
at 11:23
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Pending no objections, I will update the Caged Bird thread on Sunday to reflect the group trying to interact with Farrissa before her trial. Please have any posts you wish to close out done by then. The next Chapter of this story is about to begin!
Kharash
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Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 17:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Had a few busy days, I hope to be able to read up on everything tonight or tomorrow!
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Wed 28 Feb 2018
at 19:15
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No worries. I will be traveling the next few days. Plenty of time for conversations.
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Sat 3 Mar 2018
at 20:01
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Took me longer to travel than expected. Iíll try to post tomorrow.
Arizima
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Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 19:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I've updated my latest post in the caged bird thread to reflect some information I was working towards outside the latest thread so anyone that's read it may want to reread the second paragraph.
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Fri 9 Mar 2018
at 19:59
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Speaking of. Update on Sunday!
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Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 02:49
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Iím going to give Kharash until Wednesday to respond. Update will come that evening.
Kharash
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Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 14:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm really sorry for my lack of posting lately. Things have been really busy. I have a project that requires all my time and energy, and I keep thinking I can keep up with the game, but it turns out I just can't.

I don't want to make everyone wait for me all the time, so I think it's better if I take a step back from the game. At least for the next 5-6 weeks, until this project is finished.

I will be able to check in every once in a while, but then I won't participate IC - that way you all can enjoy the game freely :)
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Good luck with your project :)

I'm really sorry for any pressure I put on you with my last post.
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Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:54
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Of course. RL comes first. Easy enough to have a Watcher come in and out of the story.

How does everyone want to proceed?
Kharash
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Tue 20 Mar 2018
at 13:34
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
In reply to Griswold Ortmann (msg # 699):

Don't worry, you didn't put any pressure on me. I actually like how you involve people like that, and were things a bit different Kharash may have actually stepped up to the task ;)
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Wed 21 Mar 2018
at 15:08
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I forgot to ask.

Do yíall have a group name decided on yet?
Wrenn Muernig
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Wed 21 Mar 2018
at 21:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I don't remember even talking about it. Something related to the order seems rather fitting, given the circumstances.
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Fri 23 Mar 2018
at 03:03
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Iíve taken to referring to your group as Heirs of the Order when referring to you in the RL game I have set in the same world.
Wrenn Muernig
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Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 01:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Roland and his father are both still alive and Farissa is still imprisoned. Let's go gain some levels so Wrenn can nuke the Ashen Order into oblivion and save the girl!
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 29 Mar 2018
at 23:50
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
quote:
The Lord Markham, Duke of the Western Lowlands, has reported a band of roving orcs in his lands and has offered 2 gold per head.

-A band of hunters reports something turning things to stone in the forest. The local towns folk are in a panic.

-A village has reported a ghostly bear haunting the town and needs assistance.

-Children have started to go missing in the town of Verlaine. The reason is unknown, but seems to be without cause.

-Xaril holds the promise of riches and artifacts.

-The Oracle of Armana is being sought by a baron south of Leffrun. The path to the oracle is treacherous and only a few brave souls have made the journey before.

-Should they ask for quests, Lady Inara will inform them that the borderlands always need brave souls to quell uprisings and rebellious lordlings. There is also the Wild Lands that can be explored.

-A mysterious figure has been rumored to enter towns, leaving them husks when they leave. The latest victims are in the town of Port Ariana.

-The crew of a legendary cargo ship that went down has been seen along the coast.

-A forest duchy is reporting that they need help. The information is vague, but the rumor is the dukes wife has gone missing in the forest.

-A rumor has emerged of a dragon being sighted near a village north of Sighiem, at the base of the mountains.


Griswold would be most interested in helping those children out, but anything is fine.
Wrenn Muernig
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Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 03:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Children and Xaril seem the most promising, atm. We can go after dragons, vampires, and medusas after we've gained another level or 8.
Arizima
 Player, 143 posts
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Fri 30 Mar 2018
at 03:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Arizima would like to move in the direction of those ruins she uncovered in her book but she's not going to be super picky.  If the children (they sound like they're in the lead right now) aren't that way that's fine.
Eri Sato
 Player, 48 posts
Mon 2 Apr 2018
at 12:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Eri's definitely all about saving children too. Whatever the group decides is fine though. Also, I assume Whisper still never told them who Eri's supposed to train?
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 12:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Okay, so that's everyone that is currently actively posting, I think.

@GM can you confirm whether or not the children are in the right direction for Arizima's personal quest, or if it is a different way?  Thanks!
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Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 15:49
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Itís somewhat in the right direction. Likely a two or three week detour from the quickest route to Verlaine.
Arizima
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Tue 3 Apr 2018
at 16:09
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Let's do Vermaine and then Arizima can investigate that after.
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Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 23:27
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If Verlaine is your destination, I need 3d12 rolled separately. Let me know if you roll any 11ís or 12ís.
Arizima
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Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 23:33
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
17:32, Today: Arizima rolled 18 using 3d12 with rolls of 8,4,6.  ???

Rolls of 8, 4, and 6.  Do we all need to roll or just one of us?
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Wed 4 Apr 2018
at 23:51
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Nope, just the one set. It determines what the random encounters, if any, are.
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 18:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM - I may have been misreading your post, but it sounds like we have already scoured the area.  Is that the case, or have we just given a cursory glance?  If it is still worth rolling investigation, I'll help anyone that wants to roll - for advantage.
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Wed 11 Apr 2018
at 18:36
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This is only what you can actively see without digging through the rubble and debris.
Wrenn Muernig
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Sat 14 Apr 2018
at 02:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Which direction is the wagon approaching from, in relation to the direction we were coming?
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Sun 15 Apr 2018
at 00:53
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The wagon came from the direction you were headed.
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Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 03:37
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I would like to present to yíall artwork I had commissioned of your group.


Kharash
 Player, 203 posts
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Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 07:57
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wow! That's awesome!
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 09:08
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah, that is incredible! :O
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 14:25
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
That's fantastic!
Arizima
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Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 16:57
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wow.  I can't say  I was expecting that.  It looks great!
Eri Sato
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Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 18:12
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Holy mackerel that's soooooo awesome!!!
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Mon 16 Apr 2018
at 18:27
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Iím glad yíall like it. Been in the works for a couple months now. I figure it was time since the group has evened out.

Update coming soon. Also, expect a slight shift in the setting information. Reworking a few details.
Eri Sato
 Player, 54 posts
Tue 17 Apr 2018
at 02:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I should also say thanks a million zillion for commissioning  it in the first place!
Kharash
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Sun 22 Apr 2018
at 17:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah, it's really awesome to have a picture commissioned! That's a first for me :) Is there a way to put the picture on the background of the game menu or something? That'd be pretty cool.

In other news, the project I was working on is finished. It was the last project for my degree, so I am now officially a master of science, haha.

This means I have time again to spend in Arathia! What do you think, GM, shall I just join the party where they are now? Or would you prefer to deal with the port town first?
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Sun 22 Apr 2018
at 17:44
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If you want, we can have you a few days behind the rest of the group, saying you decided to follow up with the Dragonborn lead after the situation in Verlaine.

In any case, welcome back, science master!

This message was last edited by the GM at 17:45, Sun 22 Apr 2018.

Arizima
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Sun 22 Apr 2018
at 18:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Congratulations on the shiny new degree, I'm glad to see you're back!
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 22 Apr 2018
at 18:12
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well done, Kharash :D And it'll be good to have you back.
Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 22 Apr 2018
at 18:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Grats, Dragon Master.
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Sun 22 Apr 2018
at 20:16
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Are yíall interested in following the tracks then? If so, Iím going to need a survival check to follow them.
Arizima
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Sun 22 Apr 2018
at 20:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I don't think any of us are actually built for that so I just went ahead and gave it a try.

14:21, Today: Arizima rolled 13 using 1d20+1.  Survival (Luck).
14:21, Today: Arizima rolled 6 using 1d20+1.  Survival.

Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 22 Apr 2018
at 20:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn will help/aid/whatever to give advantage.
Kharash
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Mon 23 Apr 2018
at 15:59
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks everyone!

Ok, sounds good GM, let me know when is a good time for me to join the group again.
Arizima
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Mon 23 Apr 2018
at 18:06
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I made a third roll just in case advantage does end up applying.  Take the 13 or the 15 depending on how things work out.

12:05, Today: Arizima rolled 15 using 1d20+1.  Survival (Advantage?).
14:21, Yesterday: Arizima rolled 13 using 1d20+1.  Survival (Luck).
14:21, Yesterday: Arizima rolled 6 using 1d20+1.  Survival.

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Mon 23 Apr 2018
at 20:06
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No advantage for tracking on this, sorry. I've decided to put Kharash a half-day back so that you can catch up quickly.
Eri Sato
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Mon 23 Apr 2018
at 22:23
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well I rolled a 7 and I'm pretty sure I don't have ranks in it, so I'm no good.

Sorry I didn't do this sooner. I've had a lot of family drama lately but hopefully it's sorting itself out for now. Thanks! :)
Wrenn Muernig
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Tue 24 Apr 2018
at 01:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Any visible signs of similar destruction at at the other place, from here?
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at 01:42
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Negative
Griswold Ortmann
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Wed 25 Apr 2018
at 10:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So if someone knows Fog Cloud or some similarly obscuring power that would be awesome.  Otherwise, I think a series of turns as involving moving and dodging might be best.

We could also try to out-range them.  Griswold has his longbow and as small creatures (I am assuming they are small mechanically), they probably only use shortbows.  But he only has 20 arrows and we don't know for certain that these guys are the culprits.  So I'd rather try to confirm that before starting a fight with a bunch of innocent people.

GM - are we close enough to be heard if we shout?
Wrenn Muernig
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Sat 28 Apr 2018
at 14:14
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Dropping this here before I forget it.
09:11, Today: Wrenn Muernig rolled 20 using 1d20+2.  Dex Save vs Bolts.

Are the goblins clustered up where I could catch a decent batch of them in a Sleep spell, or are they spread out?
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Sat 28 Apr 2018
at 14:33
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You could catch three at most.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sat 28 Apr 2018
at 16:43
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I feel this maybe a little cheeky to ask, but do we get to make our reflex (I assume this means Dex) saves with advantage?  Taking the dodge action gives advantage, but I am not sure whether this volley of bolts come before or after our second action.

Thanks and in the meantime:

17:43, Today: Griswold Ortmann rolled 10 using 1d20+3.  Dexterity Save - Duck and Weave. Duck and Weave.
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Sat 28 Apr 2018
at 17:32
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This volley of bolts happened between your two. Youíll get the dodge bonus on the next round.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sat 28 Apr 2018
at 18:13
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Okay 4 damage taken then. :)
Arizima
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Sat 28 Apr 2018
at 23:26
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
17:25, Today: Arizima rolled 19 using 1d20+2.  Dexterity Save.

It looks like I'm safe.
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Sat 28 Apr 2018
at 23:56
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You can post your next round of actions.
Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 29 Apr 2018
at 18:31
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
How far are we from the boss goblin?

Sorry, trying to get an idea of the layout here so I know which actions will help, and which might sound good, but be ultimately suicidal.
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Sun 29 Apr 2018
at 22:53
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'll do you one better. Here is a rough map of the farmstead.

https://drive.google.com/file/...omM/view?usp=sharing
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 30 Apr 2018
at 08:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks for the map, GM!  However, I have a couple of questions, if I may:

1) It is  a little difficult to judge distance.  How far from the wall is Griswold?  Could he make it to the Goblin -almost- opposite him?
2) How high is a 'low wall' in this scenario.
3) What does the wall appear to be made of?

Thanks again.
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Mon 30 Apr 2018
at 11:50
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1.Griswold could make it to the wall but would need to make an acrobatics check to make it over in the same move.
2. The wall is a standard garden wall, about two or three feet high.
3. Wall is made of dry stacked stone.
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Wed 2 May 2018
at 20:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Eri, looks like the sheet is assuming your damage modifier in the base profile of the weapon. You should only be getting your Dex bonus added.
Eri Sato
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Wed 2 May 2018
at 22:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I knew it was screwy somehow! Well the plus 3 I took is accurate then. I'll tweak the sheet when I get a chance. Thanks very much!
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Sun 13 May 2018
at 12:57
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I would like to apologize. Trying to move into a new house and the movers delayed the date. It might not be till tomorrow or the next day before I can post. I just didnít want yíall to think I forgot about you. ;)
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 13 May 2018
at 17:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ah, Thanks for the update & Good luck in your new home ^^
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 24 May 2018
at 13:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Let's see if this creature really is evil or just misguided.

Could it be possible that he is a big simple guy that's just been abused and mistreated by his goblin 'owners?'  Maybe, with a little TLC, he can be cleaned up, cured of disease and turned into a decent guy?

Or maybe there will be a Griswold shaped splat on the ground very soon...
Wrenn Muernig
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Thu 24 May 2018
at 14:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I will be mostly offline from May 29 - June 1. Some access in the morning and evening, possibly.
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Thu 24 May 2018
at 14:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
If you want a serious shot at the check working, youíre going to have to stop attacking him. Griswold, itíll be up to you to make the others stop since it is your check.

Noted Wrenn. Thanks for the heads up!
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 24 May 2018
at 16:41
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah, I wasn't sure how to handle it, since we've already made some attacks this round.  Either Griswold makes his persuasion check and then the other attacks go off, if the monster doesn't back down, Griswold's persuasion check is made at the end of the turn (to carry over to the next), its wasted, or something else.

I don't really mind if it is wasted.  At least he made the attempt.
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Thu 24 May 2018
at 16:55
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Combat is a little fluid right now and since you didnít attack, Iíll rule that you could have waited till the other attacks landed before making the check.
Griswold Ortmann
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Fri 25 May 2018
at 12:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Okay, cool.  Thanks :)

I have also just remembered that Griswold already used his Action Surge against the goblins, so I'll remove his dodge action form the post.  Sorry about that.
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Sat 26 May 2018
at 01:04
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Moving the scene forward on Monday. Iíll need a decision about how you want to move forward.
Arizima
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Sat 26 May 2018
at 01:21
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I thought Griswolds persuasion attempt was just happening after the three attacks?  Was I wrong?
Wrenn Muernig
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Sat 26 May 2018
at 02:07
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I've been holding off for Gris's stuff. How do you want us to handle things?
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Sun 27 May 2018
at 22:12
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It is happening last, but any continued attempts will need consent from the group. Griswold is trying to stop battle with a skill test. You need 5 successes before 3 failures. You can use any skill you are trained in, but you canít repeat skills. If you get the 5 successes, you can try to recruit Grunt as an ally. Failure means he keeps fighting.

This message was last edited by the GM at 22:13, Sun 27 May 2018.

Eri Sato
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Mon 28 May 2018
at 14:46
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Eri will be wary and doubtful but respect his attempts.
Arizima
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Mon 28 May 2018
at 16:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Arizima will be about the same.
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Sat 2 Jun 2018
at 13:13
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Looking for a post from someone tomorrow, otherwise combat will resume as normal.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sat 2 Jun 2018
at 18:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ah, sorry I forgot you had made a post >.<

Anyway, I don't really have too many trained skills that I can use.  I could try animal handling, I suppose.  Perhaps there is some empathetic understanding there of the conditions I suspect Grunt has been living in and his treatment by the goblins.  Otherwise, I can try to defend against attacks or assist someone else.
Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 3 Jun 2018
at 02:55
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I could...investigate?
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 3 Jun 2018
at 07:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Possible choices seem to be difficult. I guess we need to be a bit a bit more liberal with the interpretation of how the skills work that usual (Griswold's use of Animal Handling was a stretch, for example).  I don't know what skills people have trained, but something like:

Investigation: "Grunt - you bare all the signs of a slave.  The goblins beat you didn't they?  Forced you to do whatever they wanted you to do and kept you in chains.  Come with us and you can have your own life."

Medicine: "Your skin and fur looks diseased Grunt.  You're sick and not in a way that will get better by itself.  You don't like to be hurt, well how about a long, slow and agonising death from illness?  Come with us, we'll help you or find someone who can."

Insight could be good: "Grunt I understand - you're scared, angry and lonely, but it doesn't have to be that way anymore.  We could be your friends."

Perception too: "Look around you grunt - the goblins are all gone.  You're free now.  You don't need to fight for them anymore."

We need to make a maximum of 7 tests and Griswold has made 2.  So we only need 5 more to determine whether we pass or fail.  If we could use the 4 above, we'd only need 1 other.
Eri Sato
 Player, 67 posts
Mon 4 Jun 2018
at 19:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hm....I don't know how much help I'd be...especially since Eri's strong skills are sleight of hand and athletics... :(

If you can think of anything you need from me, let me know. Otherwise Eri will wait and see how things play out and then keep attacking as needed.

I have to say, I have never been the type to try to use persuasion during a fight. I'm more of a fight now and ask questions never kind of person. I should probably start thinking outside the box a little more! :)
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 5 Jun 2018
at 15:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Maybe we don't have enough skills between us to make it work? :(

Regardless, GM, are we still acting in initiative, or are we making our skills tests outside of the normal turn order?  Thanks :)
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Tue 5 Jun 2018
at 16:25
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Combat is on pause right now, so you can post in whatever order you like. BTW, the DC is 12 for a test. Itís not hard to get one, but Grunt is going to take a lot of convincing.

As for skills, calming and getting Grunt to trust you is the goal. You can attempt to entertain him, investigate his circumstances, or even try heal his wounds and disease.
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Thu 7 Jun 2018
at 01:12
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Sorry to say, Eri, but persuasion has already been used. Youíll have to pick a different skill that hasnít been used.
Eri Sato
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Thu 7 Jun 2018
at 02:37
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ah! I suspected that could be the case! Curses! I'm still getting used to the 5e thing
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Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 22:29
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Still need a few more rolls. Kharash, go ahead and enter the scene if you wish. I wonít keep you out anymore.
Eri Sato
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Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 15:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
It's a bit corny but I tried....
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 17:49
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
That was great - well done Eri.  And no more Corny that Griswold's shenanigans. :D
Eri Sato
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Wed 13 Jun 2018
at 03:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Thanks very much! I'm just really glad I got a good roll, phew!
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Sun 17 Jun 2018
at 02:48
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I hope we are not losing more people. :(
Wrenn Muernig
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Sat 23 Jun 2018
at 23:41
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I don't mind making the roll, but I'm not trained in Medicine either. Got a whopping +0 there.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 24 Jun 2018
at 00:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Well that's still better than Griswold's XD

But don't worry about it if not.
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Tue 26 Jun 2018
at 01:03
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Great roll! I have to find a good way to describe it. In the meantime, Iíve come up with a basic primer for my setting for a new tabletop group. Let me know what you think.

https://docs.google.com/docume...humN3FIVXr0vtmtLl5WE
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Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 01:16
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Update coming tomorrow.
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Sun 8 Jul 2018
at 23:13
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Everyone okay?
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Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 13:39
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So, what is the final plan here?
Eri Sato
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Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 13:52
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think we want to take Grunt to town and get him healed lickity split! :)

If persuasion is needed then that is Griswold's problem because he is witty and pleasant!   ;P
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 16:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Some might say slimey.

Also, I believe he has pissed off more people than any other character else in this campaign so far XD
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 18:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Griswold Ortmann:
Also, I believe he has pissed off more people than any other character else in this campaign so far XD

Confirmed.
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Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 18:35
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Alright, you are headed to Verlaine to follow the quest and get Grunt help or a different town?

You would think Gris was messing with a deck of many thing the way he draws trouble! ;)
Eri Sato
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Mon 23 Jul 2018
at 22:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Unfortunately Eri doesnít know what sheís dealing with! Yikes! Haha! Well Iím sure Gris will reveal his ways in the near future and sheíll stop putting him in charge of things!

As for the town, I assume wherever is closest?
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Sat 25 Aug 2018
at 13:02
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Hey folks. I just want to say that I am sorry for the slow pace and lackluster posting. This summer was a lot harder than I was expecting and now that it is over, I should be able to get back into the swing of things.

I think that we have lost Arizima, as well. Since it is down to just three, how would you like to move forward? I don't want the story to bog down now and I can do a soft reset of sorts if y'all wish.
Griswold Ortmann
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Sat 25 Aug 2018
at 13:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Id like more players :) If we can find them.  A soft reset might help tidy things up, sure.  I don't mind.
Wrenn Muernig
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Sat 25 Aug 2018
at 14:47
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah, we've had a lot of turnover. I'd like to bring in some more folks.
Eri Sato
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Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 03:58
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Iím good with whatever. Iím not going anywhere
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Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 01:42
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Alright. Iíll put out the call this weekend.
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Mon 3 Sep 2018
at 12:23
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Alright folks. Sorry for the slow summer and general bout of quiet. I have put out the call and we will keep it up for a month to look for new blood. Again, I apologize for the slow pace. From now on, Iím going to make sure I post Tuesdays and Fridays to keep pace. If need be, I can keep it down to Fridays only if that works better for people. Cheers!
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Mon 10 Sep 2018
at 21:36
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RL has come to kick me when Iím down. Unforeseen events are causing me to put this game on hold for awhile. I apologize to all of you. I will hopefully be able to return before the Thanksgiving holidays but at this point, no guarantees.

Thank you all for your patience thus far.
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 10 Sep 2018
at 21:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
No worries. I'm here.
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 10 Sep 2018
at 22:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Okay - hope things work out :)
Eri Sato
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Tue 11 Sep 2018
at 19:33
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Real life can really blow sometimes. I wish you the very very best!! May fate conspire in your favor.
Wrenn Muernig
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Sat 13 Oct 2018
at 05:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
How's everyone doing?
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Sun 28 Oct 2018
at 01:44
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Hey folks. Sorry for the hiatus. Things are looking like I can do once a week updates for now. Who do I still have?
Wrenn Muernig
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Sun 28 Oct 2018
at 02:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
/wave
Eri Sato
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Sun 28 Oct 2018
at 04:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Me too!
Griswold Ortmann
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Sun 28 Oct 2018
at 07:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hello everybody!
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Mon 29 Oct 2018
at 01:26
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Great to hear! Looks like you three are the only ones, left.

So, where do we want to go from here? Soft reset back to the festival or something more of a time jump and a few levels and start fresh?
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 29 Oct 2018
at 14:45
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I would vote time jump over reset. I think we've got a decent enough grasp on what we're doing and where the story is right now. I don't think we need to bother much with reliving things.

Getting some fresh blood here might be good. New characters generally work out better in the long run than replacement characters, in my experience.
Griswold Ortmann
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Mon 29 Oct 2018
at 16:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think I'd prefer a hop forward to a step back, too.
Kharash
 Player, 211 posts
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Mon 29 Oct 2018
at 18:45
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hello everyone :)
Eri Sato
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Mon 29 Oct 2018
at 20:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hi! And yes please to a hop forward.
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Mon 29 Oct 2018
at 20:54
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Good to see you! Looks like a time jump is called for. Here is a link for possible adventures for the group. I'll let y'all vote for which path you want to follow. I also have quite a few RTJs from previous and I'm going to see who is still interested.

https://docs.google.com/docume...VfY/edit?usp=sharing
Wrenn Muernig
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Mon 29 Oct 2018
at 21:08
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I would say...not #3. Any of the others is fine with me.
Eri Sato
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Tue 30 Oct 2018
at 00:09
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Any are cool with me.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 30 Oct 2018
at 03:14
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Kharash!

As for the quest options:

- 1 - Into the Wildlands
Griswold's affiliation with the Golden Thread make this a good choice for him, however I am currently playing the Tomb of Annihilation elsewhere and this seems like it could be very similar, setting wise.

- 2 - The Adventurer's Guild
Its description is more vague than the others.  Rightly, or wrongly, that makes it feel more generic to me. A more standard D&D romp, perhaps?  Personally I'd like something with more grandeur, but would work well for Griswold, rp-wise.

- 3 - Trouble in Sigheim
I actually like this option since we all suck at politics and Griswold has a penchant for upsetting the wrong people.  It could be a riot in all the wrong ways.  That said, I don't see us ever agreeing to become sell-swords.  It was good up to that last part.

- 4 - The Fursten Problem
I dunno about this one.  Not sure Griswold is cut out for what sounds like Guerrilla warfare.  Though he would like to spend more time exploring the silver forest.


If we have someone skilled in survival, I think 1 and 4 are good options.  If not, probably 2.

This message was last edited by the player at 03:16, Tue 30 Oct 2018.

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Tue 30 Oct 2018
at 08:50
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If people want adventure and urban settings, I can combine 2 & 3 or 1 & 3. After all, the southern continent is home to the Savanna Queens and Draaken. It can take place there or one of the Fursten city states.
Kharash
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Tue 30 Oct 2018
at 21:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
How is everyone? :)

Nice pitches for those potential stories GM! For each of them, a reason can be found to venture there - and all of them sound interesting I think. But I must agree with Wrenn that 3 is the least likely one for Kharash to be attracted to. Intrigue and politics are not really his thing.

I think my preference goes to 1 or 4.

1 sounds like we can encounter some strange and different and interesting things.

4 sounds like we can influence how the īwarīdevelops which is pretty cool.

For either of them, a rumor of another dragonborn (or the chance to find out a bit more about his people) would be enough to motivate Kharash going there.
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Wed 31 Oct 2018
at 02:13
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Alright then. Itís a toss up between 1 and 4. Someone flip a coin and let me know what yíall want unless you can narrow it down. I also have several players looking to join. Iíll go through it with them to get their characters hashed out.
Wrenn Muernig
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Wed 31 Oct 2018
at 02:21
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Odds for 1, evens for 4.

Rolling, then editing.
Wrenn Muernig
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Wed 31 Oct 2018
at 02:22
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
4 it is. Literally.

21:21, Today: Wrenn Muernig rolled 4 using 1d20.
Kharash
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Wed 31 Oct 2018
at 17:03
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Haha, what are the odds! :P

Yeah, if a new character has ties to one of those plots - that makes the decision easier.
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Thu 1 Nov 2018
at 19:03
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Y'all can go ahead and bump up to level 6. The new guys will come in at level 5.

As for the next Chapter, you will be headed north to the Fursten Border and Silver Forest. The time jump will be two years, so feel free to jump into a brainstorming session about some of the adventures you've been up to. Use the Rumor board as reference. I'll scrub Arizima and Brother Sul from the game, but they may show up as NPCs.
Wrenn Muernig
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Thu 1 Nov 2018
at 19:35
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
And we're using strictly PHB, correct?
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Thu 1 Nov 2018
at 19:43
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We can expand to other books, so long as they have been published by WOTC.
Wrenn Muernig
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Thu 1 Nov 2018
at 20:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ok. I might grab a spell or two from Xanathar's, then.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 1 Nov 2018
at 21:00
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I have almost updated my sheet.  Changes made:

Level 4 ASI: +2 Dexterity
Level 5: Extra Attack
Level 6 ASI: Skilled (Feat)*
New Spell: **
HP Increased

*We are allowed to use Feats, right?  I forget.  If not, I'll change it.
Assuming we can, I thought we should have someone capable of doing the rogue stuff.  Griswold was sort of a free spirit as a child and it makes sense for him to have had these sorts of skills before, which he might have been practising again since.  So, he gained Stealth, Deception and Thieves' Tools.

**Not sure about this yet.  There's not much choice for him.  Its Mage Armour, Alarm or some sort of attack spell. Any suggestions would be appreciated.  It has to be a level 1 Wizard spell from the Abjuration/Evocation school.

I've also made the following gear changes, let me know if this is a problem:

+20 arrows
+ Thieves' Tools
Breastplate changed for Studded Leather
Wrenn Muernig
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Thu 1 Nov 2018
at 22:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Your best option for spell is going to be Shield, reaction for +5 AC.
Griswold Ortmann
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Thu 1 Nov 2018
at 23:03
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
In reply to Wrenn Muernig (msg # 830):

Sorry, I forgot to mention.  I already have shield and magic missile.
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 210 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 26/26
Thu 1 Nov 2018
at 23:11
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Mage Armor is a waste if you're already wearing armor.

Absorb Elements is decent, reaction to give you +1d6 damage if you can absorb an elemental attack.

Chromatic Orb gives you an array of damage types, in case we run into something with resistances.

Burning Hands gives you a fairly decent AoE spell for a level 1 slot. Thunderwave is similar.
Eri Sato
 Player, 88 posts
Fri 2 Nov 2018
at 04:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wow! This progressed quickly! Iím pretty busy until Tuesday. Would it be ok to get my sheet updated then? Thanks
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 211 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 26/26
Fri 2 Nov 2018
at 14:16
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think I've got mine updated for level 6 now. I didn't do anything gear/gold-wise, just did the character leveling.
Kharash
 Player, 214 posts
 Dragonborn
 Watcher
Fri 2 Nov 2018
at 18:01
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'm pretty much done with my levels up. I've taken the Polearm Master feat. There's something about a dragonborn wading into battle with a giant glaive that seems really cool.

On that note, are we able to spend some 'hard earned' gold on new equipment?

I also had an idea to cover what we've done these past levels. How about we each take one or two of the points on the rumor board and tell a short story about how it went. We could even roll some dice to determine whether a mission/quest was successful or not so much (for example 1-5: failure or barely made it, 6-10 kinda worked out, 11-15 successfully completed, 16-20: great success...?). Just an idea, but what do you think?
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 324 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Sun 4 Nov 2018
at 11:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'll take Absorb elements. :)

I sort of like the idea, Kharash.  But the GM might like to use the plot hooks in the future and I'm not a great author, so it would be a bit hit and miss.
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Sun 4 Nov 2018
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Feel free to spend money on equipment, within reason. Upper limit for you is 1000g. No magic items except for potions.

Kharashís idea for story points works for me. I have plenty to fill out your future :)
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Sun 4 Nov 2018
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Sorry for the double post, but I took out some of the plot hooks on the Rumor Board. I wanted to save those for later. Work on your new party members and story chapter now.
Uriel
 player, 1 post
Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 01:08
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hello everyone! I'll be taking on the role of your dependable wilderness guide ;)

I'll try to have my sheet ready to go in the next day or so. Glad to be aboard.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 01:09
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome :D
Yon
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Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 01:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
A Tempest Cleric of Thor incoming!

Hello everyone!  I too am working on my sheet as we speak.
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 01:47
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hi ^^
Kharash
 Player, 215 posts
 Dragonborn
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Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 02:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ooh, another dragonborn! Welcome to both of you :)

This message was last edited by the player at 02:20, Tue 06 Nov 2018.

Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 212 posts
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 HP: 26/26
Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 03:00
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome aboard.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 327 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 15:42
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Okay, so Griswold has never been good with money.  1,000 gold?  He's never going to be able to keep his hands on that!  And, with the sad passing of his best friend Jacoby, he needs a new mount.  A mount suitable for a knight!


Starting coin: 46 gold, 5 silver.
Interlude coin: 1000 gold
Breastplate Sale: 200 gold
Total: 1,246 gold, 5 silver

Purchases:
Arrows: 1 gold
Thieves' Tools: 25 gold
Studded leather: 10 gold
Warhorse: 400 gold
Chainmail Barding: 300 gold
Leather Barding (for comfort): 40 gold
4 Potions of healing: 200 gold

Total: 976 Gold

Remaining Coin: 270 gold, 5 silver.

Also, everyone say hello to Tilda, Griswold's new chimera-brindle warhorse.  Unlike Griswold, she is an upstanding citizen of the Empire.

DM - I'd also like to hire someone to look after Tilda, when Griswold needs to venture off without her.  I'd prefer this to be an unskilled mook, but assume it would have to be a skilled hireling for proficiency in animal handling.  So 2gp/day?
Yon
 Player, 2 posts
 Dragonborn (blue)
 Cleric of Thor
Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 15:58
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yeah dragonbros!

Iíd say that seems a good shopping trip result there Griswold.  Jeeze the money really did burn a hole in your coin purse.  LOL
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 213 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 26/26
Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 16:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wizards and their inability to wear armor...

Jeweled Orb: 100g

I guess all the rest gets dumped into potions. Unless I can use the coin to add more spells to my spellbook?
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Tue 6 Nov 2018
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Gold for Spells approved!

As for Griswold's request, granted, but since you are now a full-fledge Argonaut with a reputation, there is going to be a twist.

Say hello to Heshim, your new squire! Treat her well!
Griswold Ortmann
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Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 17:55
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Does that mean I don't have to pay? :P
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Tue 6 Nov 2018
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You are responsible for the feeding, care, and training of a squire. You will not have to pay them directly, however.
Eri Sato
 Player, 89 posts
Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 22:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hi to all the new peeps!
Kharash
 Player, 216 posts
 Dragonborn
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Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 20:30
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
This is what Kharash gained with these level ups (and what my companions have undoubtedly noticed):
  • (4) Feat: Polearm Master.
  • (5) Extra attack.
  • (5) 2nd level spells, including Find Steed. Kharash now has an intelligent steed with him
    (@GM: the form of which I am not yet sure of, I don't know if a horse - even a warhorse - would be happy carrying a dragonborn. Is there another animal that could work as a dragonborn steed? Perhaps Kharash found out something that could work during his search of dragonborn-knowledge?)
  • (6) Aura of Protection: those who have been subject to a saving throw have found that the mere presence of Kharash bolsters their ability to do so. Every ally within 10 ft of Kharash has +3 on any save.


And this is my shopping list:
  • 1015g to spend.
  • (-750g) Got the Plate armor from Delius' armory fitted to Kharash's measurements.
  • (-120g) Silvered glaive.
  • (+85g) Sold the chain mail and shield.
  • 230g left - I don't know what else to buy...

This message was last edited by the player at 22:51, Wed 07 Nov 2018.

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Wed 7 Nov 2018
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Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Kharash, it is half price from a full suit of armor to have it refitted. 750gp total.
Kharash
 Player, 217 posts
 Dragonborn
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Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 22:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Ok :)
Uriel
 player, 2 posts
Thu 8 Nov 2018
at 01:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Just an update. Sheet's mostly done. Waiting on DM to approve equipment and I still have to finish a physical description.
Yon
 Player, 3 posts
 Dragonborn (blue)
 Cleric of Thor
Thu 8 Nov 2018
at 01:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Update!  Got my sheet done, uh, as far as I can tell. I have only filled out a total of 3 sheets for 5E up to now so I don't feel fluent in it.  Waiting on DM approval now to see if I did it right.  :)
Galenos
 Player, 1 post
 Scholar and Healer
Thu 8 Nov 2018
at 01:51
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Greetings gentle folk.

High elf knowledge cleric of Apollo here.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 329 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Thu 8 Nov 2018
at 02:24
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Salutations!
Kharash
 Player, 218 posts
 Dragonborn
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Thu 8 Nov 2018
at 10:19
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hello!
Galenos
 Player, 2 posts
 High Elf
 Scholar and Healer
Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 01:44
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
So assuming he's fifth level here's what his spells look like. He gets 4 cleric cantrips (plus 1 wizard cantrip for being an elf) and 8 ready spells. I still have to choose one cantrip; Mending or Resistance?

Spells: (Domain spells)
[0/W] Fire Bolt
[0/C] Guidance, Light, Spare the Dying, ??
[1/C](4 slots) Command, Identify(R), Cure Wounds, Detect Magic(R), Guiding Bolt, Healing Word
[2/C](3 slots) Augury(R), Suggestion, Prayer of Healing, Spiritual Weapon
[3/C](2 slots) Non-Detection, Speak with the Dead, Mass Healing Word, Revivify

So thoughts, questions, comments?
Galenos
 Player, 3 posts
 High Elf
 Scholar and Healer
Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 01:45
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Full name is Galenos Giatrůs by the way.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 330 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 02:34
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
You dont have a cleric attack cantrip.  Is your Int high enough to make effective use of fire bolt, or are you Planning on using physical weaponry?  If not, I suggest Sacred Flame or Toll the Dead.  If so, then mending.  Not for any particular reason other than I like its RP utility ^^

Since you know all your spells anyway and just have to prep them, I guess it doesn't matter, but Lesser Restoration and Silence can both be powerful level 2 spells.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:36, Sat 10 Nov 2018.

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Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 13:32
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Alright folks. Iíll get to sheets and character requests tonight or tomorrow. Expect a post to start off the new chapter mid week.
Galenos
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 High Elf
 Scholar and Healer
Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 14:02
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
In reply to Griswold Ortmann (msg # 862):

His Int and Wis are both 16 and Fire Bolt has better range. The problem with Silence is that it takes concentration. I can see where it could be effective in the right circumstances. I'd missed Lesser Restoration and it certainly fits his theme. What to give up though?
Uriel
 player, 3 posts
Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 14:10
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Augury is expensive to cast. Prepare it when you need it, not habitually. Youíll run out of gold fast.

Edit: oh nvm, spell component doesnít get consumed.

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Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 14:26
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For the new folks, here is the link to my DND Beyond campaign site. Build you characters there and I will look over them.

For the old hands, go ahead and update your stuff. If itís on there, Iím good with it.

https://ddb.ac/campaigns/join/63955493051454
Kharash
 Player, 219 posts
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Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 14:48
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Mine is updated on dndbeyond.

They've definitely improved their layout - much more clear now :)
And there seem to be quite some extra options too when it comes to making/adding your own stuff. Like custom actions and features.
Galenos
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 High Elf
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Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 16:42
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Uriel:
Augury is expensive to cast. Prepare it when you need it, not habitually. Youíll run out of gold fast.

Edit: oh nvm, spell component doesnít get consumed.

And its a domain spell so I don't have to prepare it.
Galenos
 Player, 6 posts
 High Elf
 Scholar and Healer
Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 22:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Revised:
Spells: (Domain)
[0/W] Fire Bolt.
[0/C] Guidance, Light, Mending, Spare the Dying.
[1/C](4 slots) Command, Identify(R), Cure Wounds, Detect Magic(R), Healing Word.
[2/C](3 slots) Augury(R), Suggestion, Lesser Restoration, Prayer of Healing, Spiritual Weapon.
[3/C](2 slots) Non-Detection, Speak with the Dead, Mass Healing Word, Revivify.
Galenos
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Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 22:40
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
Feel free to spend money on equipment, within reason. Upper limit for you is 1000g. No magic items except for potions.

Is that for us new folk as well?
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Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 23:48
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Yes.
Wrenn Muernig
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 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 26/26
Tue 13 Nov 2018
at 18:12
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I'll be out of town for the holidays from 11/17 - 11/24
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Tue 13 Nov 2018
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Thanks for the heads up. Looking to have the first chapter post sometime this week. Let me know what y'all decided for the stuff on the rumor board.
Kharash
 Player, 220 posts
 Dragonborn
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Wed 14 Nov 2018
at 09:09
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I haven't had time yet to think about the rumor board - hopefully tomorrow.
Galenos
 Player, 8 posts
 High Elf
 Scholar and Healer
Thu 15 Nov 2018
at 03:33
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Alright, shopping time!

Sold:
Scale mail +25
Lt. crossbow +12.5
Bolt case + 0.5
20 bolts + 0.5
Rope, hemp + 0.5
10 torches + 0.05
 +39.05

Sold 39.05
Start 5
Bonus 1000
1044.05

Bought:
Breastplate          400
Longbow               50
Quiver                 1
w/20 arrows            1
Rope,silk             10
2 Pouches              1
2 Sacks                0.02
Whetstone              0.01
2 Potions of healing 100
2 days rations         1
Ink pen                0.02
Ink                   10
Paper, 10 sheets       2
Augury set            25
Clairovoyance eye    100
Revivify component   300
1001.05

leaves 43gp.
Faisson
 Player, 1 post
Thu 15 Nov 2018
at 19:20
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Hello everyone! Druid here looking forward to some long walks in the forest with you all.


Equipment

Adamantine Chain Shirt   800
Backpack                   2
Bedroll                    1
Case, Map or Scroll x2     2
Chalk x10                  0.1
Clothes, Traveler's        2
Dagger                     2
Healer's Kit               5
Herbalism Kit              5
Mess Kit                   0.2
Potion of Healing x2     100
Quarterstaff               0.2
Rations x10                5
Rope, Silk 50 ft.         10
Sack x3                    0.03
Shield                    10
Sprig of Mistletoe         1
Staff                      5
Viol                      30
Waterskin x2               0.4

Gold in purse             10


Total                    990.93

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Thu 15 Nov 2018
at 19:28
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Welcome everybody! New folks, your intro thread is up. Old hats, you have the next Chpater thread to start!
Wrenn Muernig
 Player, 215 posts
 Gnome Wizard
 HP: 26/26
Thu 15 Nov 2018
at 23:34
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Unless the GM has given permission otherwise, Druid's cannot wear metal armor, which adamantine is.
Griswold Ortmann
 Player, 331 posts
 Half-Elf
 Knight Errant
Thu 15 Nov 2018
at 23:38
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Faisson:
Hello everyone! Druid here looking forward to some long walks in the forest with you all.


Welcome :)

@GM:

How would you like to deal with Heshim?

- Would you like to rp her (I'd prefer this), or should I?

- Did you have a plan for her appearance, personality, and gear?

- As for her relationship with Griswold, its entirely possible that he is a constant source of disappointment for her, or perhaps they have a closer bond than master and squire should?  Or anything in between.

Thanks!
Uriel
 player, 4 posts
Fri 16 Nov 2018
at 00:02
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
GM:
Welcome everybody! New folks, your intro thread is up. Old hats, you have the next Chpater thread to start!


To confirm, the new PCs know each other from the outset?
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Fri 16 Nov 2018
at 01:18
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Wrenn Muernig:
Unless the GM has given permission otherwise, Druid's cannot wear metal armor, which adamantine is.


That is correct. Good catch.

@Gris
-Heshim is yours to role play. She will not be a combatant and will disengage if surprised. She will chime in from me if needed.
-She is new to your group, but she is well equipped. She is the grand-niece of Grandmaster Hector and he has asked you to train her until she is ready to claim her medallion quest. She is well equipped, but her gear is all for training.
-As for personality, she is hopeful but has been placed under heavy pressures because of her uncle. She has a razorís wit and is not afraid of authority. It is likely one of the reasons Sir Hector chose you instead of a Castellan or Master-At-Arms.

@Uriel
The new folks are just meeting.

This message was last edited by the GM at 01:19, Fri 16 Nov 2018.

Faisson
 Player, 2 posts
Fri 16 Nov 2018
at 01:27
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Are the new people in an office? A tavern? Do we decide?


Also, good catch on the armor. I'm way too dependent on dndbeyond filtering out stuff, and it left the metal as options under the proficient filter. My bad.
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Fri 16 Nov 2018
at 01:33
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Iíll leave it up to you.
Faisson
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Fri 16 Nov 2018
at 13:54
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Here's my revised shopping list. The cost for potion of healing components is based off of the "Brewing Potions of Healing" section in XGE. If cost needs to be adjusted, let me know.

Backpack                 2
Barding, Hide           40
Bedroll                  1
Case, Map or Scroll x2   2
Chalk x10                0.1
Clothes, Traveler's      2
Components for
 Potion of Healing x4  100
Dagger                   2
Feed x5                  0.05
Healer's Kit x2         10
Herbalism Kit            5
Hide Armor              10
Lantern, Bullseye       10
Mess Kit                 0.2
Potion of Healing x8   400
Quarterstaff             0.2
Rations  x10             5
Riding Horse            75
Rope, Silk x2           20
Sack x4                  0.04
Saddle, Military        20
Saddlebags               4
Shield                  10
Sprig of Mistletoe       1
Staff                    5
Viol                    30
Waterskin x2             0.4

Gold in purse           25

Total                  779.99

This message was last edited by the player at 16:10, Fri 16 Nov 2018.

Uriel
 player, 8 posts
Sat 17 Nov 2018
at 02:13
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Faisson is a wood elf, correct? That's what I'm seeing on your description.
Faisson
 Player, 6 posts
 Wood Elf Druid (Land)
 AC 14 | HP 38/38
Sat 17 Nov 2018
at 02:17
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
In reply to Uriel (msg # 885):

Yes, wood elf. Do I have it listed otherwise somewhere? I was considering silver elf for a second and might have written that on something.
Uriel
 player, 9 posts
Sat 17 Nov 2018
at 04:15
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
No, they just werenít listed in the almanac. I wasnít sure if they existed in Arathia until now :) I thought it was only silvers and high elves.
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Thu 22 Nov 2018
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Happy Thanksgiving to all the American players!
Eri Sato
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Thu 22 Nov 2018
at 21:29
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
Yes!! Happy thanksgiving!!
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Sat 24 Nov 2018
at 19:00
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Just a heads up, folks. Iíve been building up the world more and the map is going to change. Shouldnít affect gameplay but expect very detailed maps and some changing to the political landscape.
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Mon 26 Nov 2018
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New maps are up. Please ask questions, as that will be easier than explaining all the changes.

As for the new political map, the other countries are the boundaries of the near peer Fursten Alliance Cities. Eskend sits as the top with a ton of fertile farmland and access to the richer, unexplored northern reaches, which includes the Silver Forest.
Faisson
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 AC 14 | HP 38/38
Mon 26 Nov 2018
at 02:56
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
In reply to GM (msg # 891):

Very cool.

How does the Group 0 map (with Forest of Skulls) overlay onto the Main Game map? Is the Group 0 map part of Krieghold?
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Mon 26 Nov 2018
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The main road that runs across the political map is the same one on the western middle of the forest map. Think of them as near corner to corner.
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Sat 1 Dec 2018
at 15:46
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Are people waiting on me?
Faisson
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Sat 1 Dec 2018
at 16:04
Re: OOC: A tavern outside the universe
I think the High Stakes group has decided not to wander off into the forest, so we're kind of in a holding pattern. We can RP until the story progresses, but I don't believe we have anything substantial to do at the moment.
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Sat 1 Dec 2018
at 16:51
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Feel free to explore the town or its surroundings then. I just donít have any dialog to inject at the moment.
Faisson
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Sat 1 Dec 2018
at 16:56