OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character.   Posted by Control.Group: 0
Control
 GM, 50 posts
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 00:31
OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
if one of you wouldn't mind rMailing Astrid to invite her, I would appreciate it.

Rather than try to remember what's happened in previous games, I'm very much preferring a "fresh start".  So, consider this an Alternate Universe.  Agnes there isn't the same as Agnes here.   I don't absolutely need characters to get along, but I do expect the players to work out ongoing justification for the characters to continue to associate.

Also, IIRC, there were issues discussed once-upon-a-time about House Raith as a PC.  I don't recall if it was one of my games or one I was in...   But, I'm not overly keen on the idea of a player-character making extensive use of psychic rohypnol.  Luke, however, is House Malvora, and a "virgin" at that.  I don't need to try to tempt him with opportunities to perform "date rape."  This makes me feel much less "icky".
Willa
 Clued-In Mortal, 2 posts
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 00:38
Willa...

One of the big questions that comes up for these games is the justification for coming together.

If Astrid comes on-board here, then it brings the whole Monoc Securities into it.   This is where I came up with the idea of introducing Willa Porter.   She is wealthy enough to hire Monoc.  Especially as she's learning more and more about the supernatural world.   She'll be the reason you were gathered together, and you will (albeit inadvertantly) teaching her about this world.

She probably has some pretty off-base ideas about what's really going on.  But her husband is in a coma because of a Fomor situation, and she feels the need to bone up and go on the offensive.  She calls it "The Shadow War" because she can't be seen to be going off the deep end...  I don't want to present Willa as a distant and remote benefactor.  She's pissed and she wants to hurt the Fomor back.
Luke
 Malvoran Virgin, 3 posts
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 02:50
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
Control:
Also, IIRC, there were issues discussed once-upon-a-time about House Raith as a PC.  I don't recall if it was one of my games or one I was in...   But, I'm not overly keen on the idea of a player-character making extensive use of psychic rohypnol.  Luke, however, is House Malvora, and a "virgin" at that.  I don't need to try to tempt him with opportunities to perform "date rape."  This makes me feel much less "icky".


Entirely agreed. That said, while on pg 39 it says that a White Court vampire's first feeding is fatal, in the books it is described that the "virgins" are not told of their heritage and have no idea how to control it. On p. 156 the White Court Virgin mantle has the descriptor, "You are the offspring of a White Court vampire but have not killed through feeding and thus are not yet a vampire." Genevieve Ba, on pg 240, is a White Court Virgin who feeds, but having been warned in advance of her heritage, remains in control of her demon and her hunger hasn't killed anyone yet.

In River City, Luke was written as similar to Genevieve. Thanks to advance warning and psychological disciplines from Dr. Gordon Ericsson (CBT and the like), Luke is able to feed his hunger without automatically killing his opponent, and will not become a full vampire until he loses control and feeds off someone with direct, fatal consequences.

So, it's not even tempting him to scare his opponents that is the issue, but starving him and having him lose control.
Control
 GM, 51 posts
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 03:57
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
Fiction is rife with characters who buck the norm.   If you want Luke to be aware--even if only tagentially--you're welcome to.  I can run with it either way.
Luke
 Malvoran Virgin, 4 posts
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 06:22
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
Whew! I'm happy to hear that.
Gordon
 Wizard, 4 posts
 Psychiatrist/Psychomancer
 White Counsel Wizard
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 16:26
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
Control:
if one of you wouldn't mind rMailing Astrid to invite her, I would appreciate it.


Message sent.

Even if Astrid does not come on-board, I can see someone like Willa trying to gather her own forces.  Someone doing that would get Gordon's attention, especially after the Fomor invasion.  He is keeping an eye on his friends, peers, acquaintances, and 'clients.'  And he found out someone else is rounding them up, he would definitely look into it.
Willa
 Clued-In Mortal, 3 posts
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 17:30
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
I think Willa's response to fear and intimidation is to fight back...   She may have run into Luke's mother at some point.  Not likely aware of her special nature at all.  But angry at herself for being scared, she turns it into aggression...
Astrid
 Valkyrie, 3 posts
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 17:34
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
I'm on board, right enough! And yes, I believe I was Vaska, many moons ago. Things got seriously complex in my life back then, and I had to do a significant cutback on my online time. Thankfully, I am fully operational again. And should (I hope) get this splint off my arm tomorrow, so I can type at my usual speed once more.
Control
 GM, 54 posts
Mon 24 Apr 2017
at 18:03
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character

In January, I followed suit.  I cut all my rpol activity--GM & player, alike.  The investigation is over and my GM was let go (without cause, so no black mark on her name).  I've accepted a job at another location at a lower position with less stress.   I just don't know when I'm going.  I know others are in similar life-changing situations... So, I'm adopting an attitude of practiced low-stress.

I'll keep you guys in the loop and you do likewise, please.  Play when you can, and tell us when you can't.

This is currently the only game that I'm involved in.  I won't be starting anything else up until I'm moved and settled.   I just liked what I saw in the other game so much that I didn't want to let the game and ideas die.

So, here we are.

Nice to have you back.
Agnes
 Wizard, 11 posts
Wed 26 Apr 2017
at 16:36
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
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Luke
 Malvoran Virgin, 10 posts
Wed 26 Apr 2017
at 19:15
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
My favorite author!
Control
 GM, 67 posts
Thu 27 Apr 2017
at 14:43
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
Okay.  I relented.

One last player addition (Played Sean in Boston/Hard-Travelling).

So, that means, we are:
  • Agnes, Wizard
  • Astrid, Valkyrie
  • Gordon, Psychomancer
  • Luke, Malvoran Virgin
  • Marcus, King of the Lost/ Son of the City
  • The Marshal, Earlking's Huntsman
  • Willa Porter, Mortal (GM NPC)


Seven characters is my unofficial limit to what I'm comfortable playing with.  And I am pleased that I've played with all of you before. SO... unless something knocks my socks off, I'm not taking any more on.
Astrid
 Valkyrie, 6 posts
Thu 27 Apr 2017
at 15:28
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
Quick! Fetch the sock gun!!!
Agnes
 Wizard, 16 posts
Thu 27 Apr 2017
at 15:30
Re: OOC: Utterly Out-of-Character
psyched not to be the only female character!
Control
 GM, 91 posts
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 02:24
My thoughts on the Jade Court
I admit that Eastern cultures are not a strong point.   So, in thinking Asian and Supernatural, I fall back to the World of Darkness "of the East" books...

I really like the idea that much of the jJde Court is made up of an enormous collection of individuals... I mean really individuals.  Some guy may feed on the scent of baking bread!  But there's also a sense of balancing the beast within with the grand purpose of their (un)-lives.

The Jade Court is the name the collective has taken on when they became signatories to the Unseelie Accords.   But it's hard to get a huge grasp on the entire court because there is so much variety and difference among all of them.

I'd really need to read up a bit on the Kindred of the East to see how much I can mine from that... but I like that it puts them really alien to our organization of every other supernatural species out there.  And it doesn't specifically deny anything.

Your thoughts?

This message was last edited by the GM at 03:09, Sat 29 Apr 2017.

Gordon
 Wizard, 29 posts
 Psychiatrist/Psychomancer
 White Counsel Wizard
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 06:41
My thoughts on the Jade Court
So, are we moving away from the Jiangshi for the Jade Court?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangshi
Control
 GM, 94 posts
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 06:52
My thoughts on the Jade Court
I don't feel that it has to be an either-or proposition.

Limiting the Jade Court to just the Jiangshi suggests that other types aren't involved.  I'm familiar with a small handful:
  • Penanggalan / Menananggalan
  • Bhoot
  • Mandarugu
  • Brahm Rakshas
  • Leyak


I once GM'd an "interlude game" of two sessions in a tabletop DFRPG game where the Penanggalan was the monster.  Flying disembodied heads sucking amniotic fluid out of pregnant ladies.  Creepy!

Again, I don't see that the Jiangshi need to be excluded from the Jade Court.  I just don't think it should represent the entirety of it.
Gordon
 Wizard, 32 posts
 Psychiatrist/Psychomancer
 White Counsel Wizard
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 08:09
My thoughts on the Jade Court
Having a large group of individuals could be fun.  It may be the reason no one can get a lot of info on them.  So, much information that conflicts.  Which makes sense since there are a ton of subgroups.
Agnes
 Wizard, 32 posts
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 10:15
My thoughts on the Jade Court

Sure, Agnes can make a proton pack. No problem.

This message was last edited by the player at 10:16, Sat 29 Apr 2017.

Control
 GM, 98 posts
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 21:17
Who Matters to you?
I'm slowly working on setting up the Latest & Greatest thread where your character sheets will be visible to everyone.

I feel I have a good sense about these individual characters, they still feel like they're in a vacuum.   So... tell me who the people are who are most important in your character's life.

I prefer a heavy focus on people who your character interacts with often... friends, family, coworkers, bosses, etc... people I can threaten and have threaten you if need be.  People who will actually make appearances in the game.

I don't expect all of your characters to be so close to someone that they matter enough to be a central Aspect of their life, like Luke & Willa.

Could you please put this in your respective character-threads (and maybe on a line on your latest & greatest sheet?)

This message was last edited by the GM at 21:18, Sat 29 Apr 2017.

Astrid
 Valkyrie, 7 posts
Sat 29 Apr 2017
at 21:19
My thoughts on the Jade Court
Sorry I have been absent, real life was poking me. I am back on point again now. :)

Important people... well, Willa is important obviously, as she is currently employing Astrid. I suspect she is also close to her Valkyrie sisters, and if not close to, then has a huge respect for the Allfather. But I don't think she is really a close friends sort of person. Her job, both supernaturally and mundane, does not really allow for close personal relationships. Not when most of the people she gets to talk to are dead. :P
Control
 GM, 100 posts
Sun 30 Apr 2017
at 02:20
Astrid Isolated
quote:
But I don't think she is really a close friends sort of person. Her job, both supernaturally and mundane, does not really allow for close personal relationships.


This is particularly interesting to me...  because one of the salient points behind my upcoming move is that I don't have any close friends nor personal relationships here.  After four years, it's gotten more than a little frustrating.  Professionally, I consider myself;  Socially, not so much.  And that isolation wears on you.   I can only imagine that this would be dramatically more impactful for a supernatural denizen that's had to endure it for decades, if not centuries.
Astrid
 Valkyrie, 8 posts
Sun 30 Apr 2017
at 11:48
Astrid Isolated
I sympathise. I went through the same when I got divorced, and moved across country. I now have a large, and very close, circle of true friends. Making that change was the best thing I could have done. I hope it helps you, too!
Control
 GM, 107 posts
Sun 30 Apr 2017
at 20:22
Astrid Isolated
Some of you might be having some difficulty with this generating of NPCs for local contacts of importance...

So, let's try this instead:
Your character has a Saturday night off.  No work, no mission of vast importance.   What does he or she do?  And who does he choose to do it with?

You can't all be antisocial recluse types!

My rationale for wanting this is simply to have people who have some personal contact with yours, who can ask for help, be threatened, threaten you, help you... the way family, friends and even acquaintances do.

It's always easy being an outsider: you don't know anybody so there is zero personal connection with the people around you.  Your character might care, but there's no real emotional investment.   I don't want a group of PCs all from outside Seattle...

This message was last edited by the GM at 01:29, Mon 01 May 2017.

Luke
 Malvoran Virgin, 20 posts
Mon 1 May 2017
at 04:26
Astrid Isolated
Plot hook people? I can do that. You don't have to use all of them.